Pakistan v South Africa in UAE 2010 November 1, 2010

Pakistan must remove players' insecurity - Razzaq

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Shortly after playing the "greatest innings" of his career, Pakistan allrounder Abdul Razzaq has urged the team management and administration to work towards removing the uncertainty players feel over their place in the team because such an atmosphere is counterproductive to Pakistan's success. Razzaq, who blitzed 109 off 72 balls to wrench the second ODI from South Africa's grasp in Abu Dhabi, said he too felt insecure about his spot in the side and that Pakistan had failed to maximise his potential over the years.

"I always play the match as if it is my last," Razzaq said. "If players have this constant fear hanging over them that they will fail and then be dropped then they will never be able to perform properly. Even I felt that if I didn't do anything in this game I would be dropped. This threat has to be removed from the team because it is not productive.

"Those guys who don't perform for a couple of matches, they shouldn't be dropped so quickly. They need to be encouraged and their morale needs to be boosted."

Razzaq launched his breathtaking assault against South Africa from No. 7 in the line-up, a position at which he's batted 81 times in his 245-ODI career. The remainder of his innings, however, has been spread over every position, from opener to No. 11. He's also not been a regular member of the ODI side, despite his match-turning potential, and was exiled for two years for his association with the unofficial Indian Cricket League.

"I think my talent has not been properly utilised both in batting and bowling, especially, my batting spot has never been permanent," Razzaq said. "I don't think I have been utilised properly over the last five or six years as a batsman."

Sunday's performance against South Africa was Razzaq's first fifty-plus score in over four years and his first century since September 2004. It was the third time in 2010, however, that Razzaq pulled off victory for Pakistan. In the previous two instances, he scored 46 off 18 balls in a Twenty20 international against England in Dubai, and 44 off 20 balls in an ODI at Lord's.

Razzaq hoped his century against South Africa would lift Pakistan cricket, which is reeling from spot-fixing allegations and poor on-field performances. "Every time there is a controversy or we lose one or two matches, people start to write us off, which is wrong," Razzaq said. "I would request the fans to please keep faith in us so that we can lift ourselves."

The ODI series between Pakistan and South Africa is level at 1-1 ahead of the third match on Tuesday in Dubai.

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  • DesiCricketfan on November 6, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Guys, I did not mean that ASHES is bigger than Indo Pak games, Ashes can never be bigger than These games. I think i mis-interpreted , my apologies. I mean to say that Ashes is a hype. People have made Ashes bigger but it can never be bigger than Indo Pak series...

  • Acton49 on November 6, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    Abdur Razzaq should be told that his place is secure. Pakistan's 15 for World Cup 1 Mohammad Hafeez 2. K Akmal 3 Younis Khan 4 Mohammad Yousuf 5 Asad Shafiq 6 Abdul Razzaq 7 Fawad Alam 8 Shahid Afridi (capt) 9 Wahab Riaz 10 Saeed Ajmal/Abdur Rahman/M Amir/Rana 10 Shoaib Akhtar and U Akmal Afridi should have his role defined. His stats recently are 29, 1, 49, 7,19, 19, 9, 34, 37, 0. 1. 29, 40, 9, 48. This shows that he has the ability but no brains. Having seen all the matches live, Afridi is an enimga, he is such a talented cricketer that his brains goes AWOL(absent with out leave). If only he can curb the self distruct button, then Pakistan surely will win the World cup. Umar Akmal has become a big head it is good that he is on the bench. We should have a proper batting coach. A bowler coach will never be respected as a batting coach by any batsman anywhere. Inzi should be the man! or Rashid Latif.

  • amynrehimi on November 4, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    i think Razzak should be used up the order, even if he has to open, we are losing one opener within the first 5 overs anyways, if Razzak opens the innings and stays for say 15-20 overs we have more tha a 100 on the board for sure, the Afrid, Umar Akmal are there to push the pedal if we have not lost too many wickets. Fawad Alam does not look like top class, he always looks tangeled up after a shot. He needs to get his technique straightened out first. With Yousuf back there will be no room anyways. Good to see Riaz comming thru. Gul is going thru a patch will be fine after a few matches. Umar Akmal should mature in his batting approach with all that talent he has he needs to utilize it better.

  • cricket_fan_1 on November 3, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    Abdul Razzaq > Inzamam, Miandad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf et al in batting.. Abdul Razzaq > Imran, Wasim, Waqar et al in bowling.. Abdul Razzaq has won more ODI matches than any other player for Pak and he should be the ODI captain.

  • karthikfromchennai on November 3, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    oh...india is not a winning team....did u inhale the same that asif used in dubai airport?

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  • Agni2 on November 2, 2010, 18:32 GMT

    I feel sorry for the poor chap. His statements show so much frustration. If he'd said anything before this innings, they would have probably thrown him out. Ijaz Butt-ass will destroy Pakistan cricket - this would be a pity for the world of cricket.

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:44 GMT

    @karthikfromchennai. And good luck 'BUYING' talent, cuz thats wats ur good at.

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    @ frehman! Nice comment but wats this Punjab and Karachi u talkin about!? Please stop fragmenting our country! it shouldve been sindh!

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    @karthikfromchennai. Yea ur right! and all the money and the glamour cannot change the fact that India is not a winning team

  • DesiCricketfan on November 6, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Guys, I did not mean that ASHES is bigger than Indo Pak games, Ashes can never be bigger than These games. I think i mis-interpreted , my apologies. I mean to say that Ashes is a hype. People have made Ashes bigger but it can never be bigger than Indo Pak series...

  • Acton49 on November 6, 2010, 10:44 GMT

    Abdur Razzaq should be told that his place is secure. Pakistan's 15 for World Cup 1 Mohammad Hafeez 2. K Akmal 3 Younis Khan 4 Mohammad Yousuf 5 Asad Shafiq 6 Abdul Razzaq 7 Fawad Alam 8 Shahid Afridi (capt) 9 Wahab Riaz 10 Saeed Ajmal/Abdur Rahman/M Amir/Rana 10 Shoaib Akhtar and U Akmal Afridi should have his role defined. His stats recently are 29, 1, 49, 7,19, 19, 9, 34, 37, 0. 1. 29, 40, 9, 48. This shows that he has the ability but no brains. Having seen all the matches live, Afridi is an enimga, he is such a talented cricketer that his brains goes AWOL(absent with out leave). If only he can curb the self distruct button, then Pakistan surely will win the World cup. Umar Akmal has become a big head it is good that he is on the bench. We should have a proper batting coach. A bowler coach will never be respected as a batting coach by any batsman anywhere. Inzi should be the man! or Rashid Latif.

  • amynrehimi on November 4, 2010, 0:11 GMT

    i think Razzak should be used up the order, even if he has to open, we are losing one opener within the first 5 overs anyways, if Razzak opens the innings and stays for say 15-20 overs we have more tha a 100 on the board for sure, the Afrid, Umar Akmal are there to push the pedal if we have not lost too many wickets. Fawad Alam does not look like top class, he always looks tangeled up after a shot. He needs to get his technique straightened out first. With Yousuf back there will be no room anyways. Good to see Riaz comming thru. Gul is going thru a patch will be fine after a few matches. Umar Akmal should mature in his batting approach with all that talent he has he needs to utilize it better.

  • cricket_fan_1 on November 3, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    Abdul Razzaq > Inzamam, Miandad, Zaheer Abbas, Yousuf et al in batting.. Abdul Razzaq > Imran, Wasim, Waqar et al in bowling.. Abdul Razzaq has won more ODI matches than any other player for Pak and he should be the ODI captain.

  • karthikfromchennai on November 3, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    oh...india is not a winning team....did u inhale the same that asif used in dubai airport?

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  • Agni2 on November 2, 2010, 18:32 GMT

    I feel sorry for the poor chap. His statements show so much frustration. If he'd said anything before this innings, they would have probably thrown him out. Ijaz Butt-ass will destroy Pakistan cricket - this would be a pity for the world of cricket.

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:44 GMT

    @karthikfromchennai. And good luck 'BUYING' talent, cuz thats wats ur good at.

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    @ frehman! Nice comment but wats this Punjab and Karachi u talkin about!? Please stop fragmenting our country! it shouldve been sindh!

  • on November 2, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    @karthikfromchennai. Yea ur right! and all the money and the glamour cannot change the fact that India is not a winning team

  • Mr.BU on November 2, 2010, 11:28 GMT

    fantastic it sure was, and hats off to Abdul Razzaq for having pulled it off.

    But too bad he hasn't polished his batting skills all this time, he has quite a few short-comings if he is to be considered a proper batsman. He is blaming the board for his poor performances, when the damage is of his own design. It is consistency that counts and consistency requires skill and application and one needs to work on that.

  • on November 2, 2010, 11:03 GMT

    This should be the Batting Line up...

    1 Mohammad Hafeez 2 Abdul Razzaq 3 Younis Khan 4 Mohammad Yousuf (currently injured) but for now Umar Akmal (wk) 5 Asad Shafiq 6 Misbah ul Haq 7 Fawad Alam 8 Shahid Afridi (capt) 9 Mohammad Amir (I wish) but for now Saeed Ajmal 10 Shoaib Akhtar, 11 Wahab Riaz

    No Zulqarnain Haider Please, hes a Test Player! Abdul Razzaq should open because hes a sensible & lethal batsmen which can help with the r/r for initial power play. If Yousuf is back, then remove Asad n put U.Akmal @ his position. AND If Amir is back, then remove either a fast bowler; Shoaib or Riaz (though Riaz is bowling good at the death) Amir can also bat. Afridi is only useful at the death overs, he's only got one thing in his mind! hes addicted to SMASHING. Umar Gul is not bowling so well, only relies on reverse Swing, he doesn't even ball the yorkers anymore.

    have Akhtar, Riaz, Hafeez, Afridi & Ajmal as the regular bowlers (if no Amir) & only use Razzaq if necessary. Thats all.

  • Razor88 on November 2, 2010, 10:41 GMT

    The PCB Din't Use him that well Enuf in the Start of his Career.Well For the Reminder, He has had a Lot of Fitness issues.Just when he was abt to Kick on,the Uncertainty certainly led him to ICL,and therefore Left out of the Side.when he Was in National Colors again,Both Younis n Afridi Din't Bother to Give Proper attention,In Spite of an Amazing t20 WC.And I think SA should learn from this.They Don't know exactly how to use an Allrounder.I Feel Bad for the Teams(SL n Ind) Who are in Search of One Good Allrounder as Razzaq Or Morkel.I hope these 2 get to Bat Up the Order.Razzaq May still have it in him, But certainly You won't Find Anything Related to "Prime Form".Albie is at his best or maybe not for test but still can play ODI n T20.I really Hope they don't do that to David Miller If he is Looked ahead of Morkel.Lets see what SA has to Provide When they Lose Kallis to Retirement.Clearly Allrounder is a talent,its Very hard to come by,Very very hard.

  • born2DIE on November 2, 2010, 10:31 GMT

    those who said razzaq isnt a good bowler, must see stats first before giving any opinion. He has better strike rate than Kumble, Jaysuria, Afridi, Vetori,Kapil Dev, Harbhajan Singh, Walsh, Ambrose, Aaqib Javed, Mushtaq Ahmed, Steve Waugh, etc. He is 18th in Top 20 most wicket taking bowler's ranking while still playing international cricket. So i only laughed when someone says he is not a good bowler.

  • on November 2, 2010, 10:18 GMT

    Really enjoyed your innings Razzaq, but sorry to say that these comments have dissappointed me. What kind of mentality is this. Its not about you or any other player, its about the team and the country. The country does not owe you anything, you owe it to the country. If you are not performing, as you werent for the past many years, its not the job of PCB or team management to provide you with job security. Its about putting up the best possible winning combination out there, regardless of how insecure the player feels as a result. If a player thinks only of his own security, he is not patriotic enough. Playing for a pakistan is not a right, its a responsiblity.

  • Pak_Green on November 2, 2010, 10:13 GMT

    I think Razzaq wants to bat/bowl for all his team mates .. on his remarks that captains have not utilized him properly

  • Amjad_Bukhari on November 2, 2010, 9:38 GMT

    Why Razzaq is not used as proper batsman only. He batted very well than many seniors and juniors. Just give him confidence that u will play as regular batsman at No. 6 or No. 3. We need a solid batsman. Not a bowler. Bowling is an extra advantage if conditions suit to seam. He is better batsman than Misbah and Imran farhat and many other tried youngsters. He should be permanent as Batsman. Even he does not play a useless short like captain.

  • QamberHasan on November 2, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    I guess Razzaq got a very balanced head on his shoulders. the way he play is absolutly magnificant. he has got capibility to be a captain of pakistan cricket team in future

  • karthikfromchennai on November 2, 2010, 9:00 GMT

    thanks ICC for dismissing the appeals....

  • karthikfromchennai on November 2, 2010, 9:00 GMT

    a knock cannot eclipse the SPOTs in the sport ....lol

  • on November 2, 2010, 8:41 GMT

    Great innings &fantastic won Gud Luck pakiz for the next 3 Games.....!!!!!

  • frehman on November 2, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    PCB authorities should select Sarfraz Ahmad as a specialist wicket keeper. He is one who does not drop many chances like Kamran Akmal and Zulqarnain. It is a specialist place in a team where a weak keeper can not be placed, because weak keeper will miss a stamp or catch of a big player then that player will take match from you. like last night INgram have done. It is like playing batting allrounder in place of Wasim Akram or Waqar Younis.

    Specialists are the best choices. If they want Kamran Akmal, he can come in team as an opener. When he has done bad keeping he can't bat. He will play good cricket if keeping is taken from him. He will only concentrate on batting and will be able to win matches for Pakistan.

    Pakistan's last 60 year of cricket prove it that good keepers have come from Karachi ( Wasim Bari......Rashid Latif) and fast bowlers from Punjab. So Please take Sarfraz Ahmad as wicket keeper and Kamran Akmal as an opener for world cup.

  • Basharat_Ali on November 2, 2010, 7:49 GMT

    It's quite frustrating that a player of Razzaq's caliber and abilities has been sidelined for unknown reasons. They send him in 18th-19th over of a T20 match, when he's got very little to do. He's a strong hitter and must be given some time to do that. Here are some of his heroics: http://live-cricket-pk.blogspot.com/2010/11/is-razzaq-really-under-utilized.html

  • on November 2, 2010, 7:23 GMT

    Razzaq is a diamond, don't lose him PCB... He is genuine allrounder...

  • RumeshSilva on November 2, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    I should say that, It was a great ining by a great team player and Pkaistan Cricket should make sure that those kind of Match Wining Players are utilised well and keep the faith on them.

  • on November 2, 2010, 7:09 GMT

    I agree with "shaz101" Pakistan's batting line up is just all wrong, its simple as that. The batting line up should be:

    1. Mohammad Hafeez 2. Abdul Razzaq (opens well in domestic) 3. Younis Khan 4. Mohammad Yousuf (currently injured) so put Umar Akmal (keeps pretty good) 5. Asad Shafiq 6. Misbah ul Haq 7. Fawad Alam 8. Shahid Afridi 9. Mohammed Aamir(I wish) use Saeed Ajmal 10. Shoaib Akhtar 11. Wahab Riaz (only cause Gul is not bowling yorkers anymore!)

    Have U.Akmal as keeper no need Zulqarnain Haider, he's a test player! If Yousuf is back then take out Shafiq and put U.Akmal at his position. Reason why I would put Razzaq as opener is because we need to make use of the power plays. He's such a sensible batsmen, and now look how strong the middle order is. If the top or middle order goes well then Afridi can bat the last 5- 7 overs with ease since he would go berserk! (Also if the wickets are in hand then you could push Afridi up) Also if Aamir is back then replace Wahab or Akhtar

  • cricinme on November 2, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    If there is any one Pakistani playing in the next IPL, it will be Abdul Razzaq for Kolkatta Knight Riders. Shah Rukh has been eyeing him for long and will go any extent to get this amazing guy into his team.

  • cric.info. on November 2, 2010, 7:03 GMT

    without any question it was an inning long awaited and can only be expected from Pakistanis, very well fought Razzak.. i like him not only as a player but as person he is soo simple, he plays for his nation, not for his name fame, but the comments followed never suits his personality, its not only in Pakistan every team player in international sports face the same situation, its not a domestic cricket that u always keep giving chances, no one can expect u to be 100% in all the games but producing low consistently should raise question in the mind of player aswell. Abdul Razzaq to me can be the World best allrounder if he focuses on what he can produce, surley he is the cleanest of hitters.. and can produce muchhhh more match winning innings... gud luck Razzaq

  • faisalbinyahya on November 2, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    Its important how a captain utilizes his players according to situations. An ODI or T20 is very demanding as far as strategy is concerned and the strategy has to be dynamic. Players should be used according to potential. Just look back where Waseem Akram used Abdur Razzaq, he made him open in ODIs in England which shows you his talent as a Batsmen. His class is much superior to the likes of Manzoor Elahi or Naveed Anjum. Afridi hardly shuffles batting order and I feel that he is under tremendous pressure to perform. Afridi should look at it as a challenge and he should think "WINNING" is the way to go, for winning he has to make sure he utilizes each of his player according to the situation and potential of each player, more wins will make his position strong. He shouldn't be worried that if other players perform, they will take his place. Afridi has to come out of his shell, his likes & dislikes and he has to think as a WINNER.

  • Elegant5 on November 2, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    First thing PCB should do is remove the useless Younus Khan and bring back Mohammed Yousuf,Sohail Tanveer,Kamran and Umar Akmal or else do not expect friday will come everyday(Razzaq innings in 2nd ODI).

  • on November 2, 2010, 6:25 GMT

    He is the one who can match Inzy while playing for the WIN, Like Inzy, he keeps his cool. I missed his play for a very long time now.

    ALL THE BEST RAZZAQ

  • fidohsn on November 2, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    @ hamza101 Akhter is a close chapter now. I dont know why PCB or even selectors select him, he is a gone case. As far as Razzaq case is concerned he is being very unlucky but thankgod he is back with his allrounder performance, his bowling is a bit weak but dats ok!! I hope he continues to play like that from now on. We need players like him!!

  • on November 2, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    I agree by 110 % as what Razzak said.....we didnt utilize him as per his talent even i always believe that he is not the only one but we lost Yousaf as well and many bowlers also like shabbir, asif etcc.... I remember Razzak always used to play at 1 down position in Wasim captaincy and he never failed .... but unfortunately for last 5 years every captain playing him at no. 8 .... could you imagine such a player is playing at no 8? even in last ODI he made his century at no 7 i think.. in 99 Steve Waugh had predicted that Razzak and Yousaf are the future of Pakistan but alas! we failed to get appropriate output from both players as per their talent....

  • SIMBA111 on November 2, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    I agree with what Razzaq complaint and it seems understandable why he is making complaint at this very moment when he is supposed to celebrate his excellent knock.

    I also feel that in no circumstances should Razzaq bowl with Shoaib Akhtar as an attack bowler. Consider his pace and one should ask Shahid Afridi whether he should bowl as an attack bowler? No, not at all... What I think is that administration and captain are ruining his career as he is far more better batsman than others in current squad. He is not a bowler you should start your innings with, he should be a part time bowler like Tandulkar... but the way captain is using him makes no sense... I have been feeling for Razzaq when he was first banned by PCB for some indian league.

  • steveshahid on November 2, 2010, 5:09 GMT

    Well done razzak, just wondering why Imran Nazir is not in the team. Newaiz good luck Pakistan.

  • deepakposa on November 2, 2010, 5:01 GMT

    now also I m in trans after seeing that amazing and unbelievable innings...razzaq hats off man!...that night i didn't went to bed....that innings is nightmare to some SA bowlers... i thought world will give great...... honor and praise to one of the best innings in ODI history, but i was wrong. I don't why this sports media will highlight nonsense abut cricket, they never give importance to great innings i,e; good thing to cricket. i hope Pakistan will bounce back and will clinch the ODI series....once again SALUTE TO RAZZAQ, who is just great with this brilliant innings.

  • Prats6 on November 2, 2010, 4:49 GMT

    I dont understand how can one innings per year , count so much ? Yes it was an amazing effort but sorry to say, Razzak's time is gone. And I partially agree with Razzak when he says he has not been utilized properly, but that was maybe 3 years agol and he did has not helped his own cause either.

  • pachako on November 2, 2010, 4:38 GMT

    why do they still using misbah, he has to be replaced with yusuf

  • chishtyirfan on November 2, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    Abdoul Razzaq one of the best player in pakistan side. I met him 1998-99 in ajmer that time he was just arrived in internationl arena . That time I predicted that he is going to be pakistan captain and one of the finest cricker. but the politics rottan manegment got him really bed. he has a lots of potential. one of the great allrounder skill. but it has to utilize in good manner. like abdoul razzaq there is lot's of talent in pakistan but they are victimise in rotton politcs and manegement. I wish best of luck to Abdul Razzaq and the entire team for next coming.

  • on November 2, 2010, 4:27 GMT

    Razzaq did almost the impossible. There are people who are questioning his recent statement. Let's forget them because they know nothing except criticism. Razzaq stood against all the odds, especially when the wickets kept falling regularly. He did what the whole team failed miserably to do. So why not applaud him for trhe great work he did for his country. After the winning shot by Razzaq, the Cricinfo commentator was quite right using the word 'Sir' for Razzaq. That shows both love and respect for the player. We must praise him and give him full marks. I wish and pray for his continued success in future that will definitely give a boast to Pakistan cricket. Jamal Ahmad Anjum.

  • PradeepR on November 2, 2010, 4:24 GMT

    Razzaq is a better batsman and more sensible than Afridi. He should come before Afridi. You can't complain that he doesn't have a fifty-plus score in over four years and that this is his first century since September 2004. He served a ban of two years during this period. How about excluding these two years from this count? If someone comes in at No.7 he doesn't have too many opportunities to score 50s or 100s. His role is to win matches shoring up the tail. He is a genuine match winner and that is more than enough. If only we Indians had such a gem of an all-rounder he would've had a career of at least 10 continuous years in the team for sure. Pak selectors should learn to respect the talented and clean players at least. For the people who are saying, "why is he complaining now?", this isn't the first time he said he wasn't utilized properly.

  • SaintsFan on November 2, 2010, 4:08 GMT

    What an innings !!! WOW !!! However, the best part was when during the presentation ceremony, Rameez Raja asked this Assassin which six out of the 10 sixes that he hit was the most memorable one. Very humbly, and at the same time, very promptly, Razzaq's reply was: Actually my most memorable shot was the boundry (4 and not a 6) that I hit to give my team a victory. That's the CLASS of this warrior, who, I totally agree that has been under utilized by this corrupt PCB.

  • saby_2010 on November 2, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Razzaq has always been a threat to the other side.He was always a match winner . however due to the incapability of PCB and management a lot of good all rounders have lost their aura..razzag , azhar mahmood to name a few...as a result we see this man scoring centiry almost after six years..anyways better late than never..

  • on November 2, 2010, 3:12 GMT

    Razzaq is always a match winner and match saver but he needs support from other players. If pakistan really wants to contd tis winning track means they should change thier batting order. their opening pair should be changed. Wkt keeper Haider should open with Hafeez.

  • Pak_Green on November 2, 2010, 3:07 GMT

    No doubt `Razzaq`did play a gem of an innings, but he is no more than like another Manzoor Elahi OR Naveen Anjum of Pakistan Cricket. When did he last time performed well with Bat or Ball or both. What should a captain have to do to better utilize him?

  • arshad817 on November 2, 2010, 1:33 GMT

    I been watching cricket all my life, havnt seen such a knock ever, he scored 63 out of last 65 runs needed to win, guys please remind me if something like this happend before? I been a great fan of him from across the border and will be. Good Job Abdul Razzak.

  • pyramidz on November 1, 2010, 23:36 GMT

    Abdul Razzaq century is one of the best innings i have ever seen. The thing is his comments are well justified, he wasnt utlised well. Of course he hasnt scored a century in 6 years or a 50 for 4 years. The reason : he comes at no7, how often does a no7 score 50+ with tailenders left. He probably comes in when the top order fails with the score below 200 so there is enourmous pressure for him to perform. Also if you see razzaqs dismissals, its not because he plays stupid shots. Its because he needs a bit of time to adjust, but when the pressure is on he gies out from thick edges. Maybe if razzaq opened and had a free license to hit in powerplay he would have mustered many 50+ scores. He might have test credentials, even if he is stop & go. PK seriously need someone who can last a long period of time.

  • mxnmxn on November 1, 2010, 23:14 GMT

    Razzaq is a very talented allrounder. As a indian fan, I am always feel wary when he comes to bowl or bat. Even with his ordinary bowling capabilities, he always produce couple of wickets (one most common victim is Sachin). I watched the last few overs of SA match and believed in my respect for this player. He is as much talented as Afridi, if not more.

  • shaz101 on November 1, 2010, 22:53 GMT

    I am not sure why Razaaq is questioning management now, is it because he is better position now after taking Pakistan to a miraculous victory. He should have questioned team management openly from day one when he was over looked or was under used. There is something called self respect and I don't think some the current Pakistani players have such thing in their life. Prime example is "Yonus Khan", Afridi, I have never seen someone with such a low self respect when one day they make such remark that they really don't want to associate with such team and than come back playing with side they don't get along. You can't have unity in a team when there are 11 players trying to pull each other legs when ever they see an opportunity. I really love seeing my country win every game but it is not possible because other side is there to play hard cricket. It is all about the attitude to win rather than attitude to bring your fellow team mate down and that is the story of Pakistan cricket.

  • on November 1, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    May be you will not agree with me but Razzaq is the best clean hitter in the recent cricket and I have seen him many time when he goes for hit then no body can stop him.Match against England he scored 40 runs in 10 balls ,4 run per bowl incredible batsman, ROCK RAZZAQ

  • shaz101 on November 1, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    Great inns but for how long can we rely on "natural miracle". We need to perform with consistency and have faith in players. We need to put pool of 15 players specialising in right batting line up and keep them there for few matches so they can acclimatise with such position. We can't players like Farhat, Shazaib, Misbah, Alam, who are just huge financial burden for PCB. They only score runs when they are on their last leg meaning about to be kicked out. Umar Akmal is a good talent but with wrong attitude, give him a kick on the back side and tell him that there is no one bigger than the game and everyone has to earn their spot no nonsense will be tolerated. We have the best talent one can have in a cricket team but with wrong attitude. These guys should feel lucky to be give the highest honour of representing their country but what they do like our politician do… make the mockery of our nation which is already in deep trauma due to natural disasters. Play for you country

  • hamza101 on November 1, 2010, 21:49 GMT

    @Anurag Patil no Man Suhail Tanwir, he don't have pace enough like Gul and Akhter yes he can be replaced by Mohammad Asif..!

  • shaf_uk on November 1, 2010, 21:46 GMT

    Thanks Geethike and others for your views,

    Yes as a pak fan we are very inconsistent however the talent has never been a problem thank God, yes pak has been very supportive to sri lankan cricket ever since it started and Sri lanka have also been good to pakistani cricket, i'm not just saying this but if pak do not win the cup then good luck to s. lanka.

  • CricLand on November 1, 2010, 21:45 GMT

    Great work by Razzaq!!! Now, one can only hope Pak team gets motivated out of this win and start winning consistently. Good luck for rest of the series.

  • hamza101 on November 1, 2010, 21:27 GMT

    @ Geethike Dinith Thanks i really love da way you praised Pakistan Team! East Or West Asia is the Best :) i would love to see all Asians teams to be on the top in every format or cricket and even every star of Asia would be in top rankings either its Sri lanka or India :) that was from my side!

  • SupernDutta on November 1, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    It Should be BOOM BOOM RAZZAQ now rather then BOOM BOOM AFRIDI.....He is immensely talented batsman....and yes PAK hasn't used him as per the ability he has in batting line up of the team...All the best RAZZAQ....

  • on November 1, 2010, 21:04 GMT

    thanks alot geetike :)....Inshalah the world cup will come to asia :)

  • Gaylo on November 1, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    Great Innings from Razzaq and he does it once again. Only Pakistan can win matches from nowhere. Had it been an Indian, the indian media would be going GAGA over the player and the commentators would be describing it as the best they have seen. Poor Razzaq urs will be forgotten soon. I pity u

  • cricket_for_all on November 1, 2010, 20:23 GMT

    Congratulation Pak!!. What an innings by Razzak (He remains me the younger Jaya). I think that all subcontinent teams are in good form even Bangladesh (Pak still have the politics). Pakistan should overcome from stupid politics. Come on guys: Do you think that Ashes is bigger than India/Pak matches (This is real rivalry). As a Sri Lankan I love to watch India/Pak matches. India/Pak matches always competitive (ENG was weak team most of the time when you come to Ashes) and nice to watch the back to back telnets. Now SL is there with enormous telnet (Bangladesh is growing like bagel tiger). I would like BCCI, PCB and SLC to arrange more matches (with real telnet not winning by sledding).

  • on November 1, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    All of a sudden Razzaq smashes an mediocre Saffa bowling line-up, he starts talking. I real feel sorry for him, regarding all his comments - "I play each match if it was my last"... Then why isn't he scoring centuries in every match? And the ironic thing is that his last match was literally be quite soon!

  • on November 1, 2010, 20:19 GMT

    I have always felt the same about Razzaq. Just check his performances in tri-nation VB series in 99 (Pak, Aus, Ind). He was funtastic. He was never less than Afridi, Kallis or Bravo (I think Bravo is good). But he has never been used properly. But it always difficult to go with 3 seamers and 2 allrounders (usually; but in case of Pakistan it is really difficult as Pakistan batting is real worry, so we need more specialists in team). He always had tough competition from Afridi (just like Moin Khan gave Rashid Latif)

  • Dutch_Pakii_Samia on November 1, 2010, 19:35 GMT

    BoomBoom Abdul Razaaq!!! IT Was aBrilliant MAtch!!

  • umairhuda on November 1, 2010, 19:29 GMT

    One of the best inning I have ever seen. Well done Razaq but we should not forget the contribution from Afridi and Fuad Aalam,.. Hope this is strat of new era of Pakistan cricket..

  • UBAIG on November 1, 2010, 19:16 GMT

    "Greatest innings of his career" that's it, what a stupid headline. That's how you praise one of the greatest ODI innings of all time. It was not only Razzaq's greatest in fact one of the all time great. Get a life. Cricinfo I guess you haven't seen the innings or you guys were drunk while watching it.

  • Mosaddek on November 1, 2010, 19:12 GMT

    All along I observed him as one of the cool and calm player. He never gets too much excited (except after winning shot of this match) for success or distraught in failure. He takes cricket as a game and plays with passion other than fashion. He might excel in test cricket as well if he is given a chance. Why not?

  • on November 1, 2010, 18:49 GMT

    one of the best matches ive seen pakistan win, razzak zindabad

  • on November 1, 2010, 18:28 GMT

    as a Sri Lankan i would like to wish Abdul Razzaq's great innings and keep it up his consistancy ,it is a mirracle innings which steels SA Victory,surely no one expected Abdul Razzak such a dengerous batsman even PCB,i have seen great batsman's certain innings but more than that this innings proves that how much he fluant in batting.

  • on November 1, 2010, 17:48 GMT

    For Razzaq's ing there are no special words to describe it simple breathtaking hitting and sublime innings. Hats Off to Him !!!

  • on November 1, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    Mr. Waqar Younis U were Great but please don't play with this team. Injecting ur politics wud definitly hurt Pak Team. U never backed Razzaq instead kept on threatening him for his place. Y cant he open the ings? let asad play in middle order and open with razzaq wich he did successfully for counties.. Thats what he is referring to "being underutilized as a batsman". There is no hard and fast rule for having specialist players to open the ing. Results matter look at what benifits aussies are reaping from Watson at the top of order and Dilshan for Sri Lanka !

  • on November 1, 2010, 17:46 GMT

    Its heartening to see how a great innings can bind the cricket lovers across the borders. A great example of the binding nature of cricket! Shows that a truly great knock is appreciated by all. Looking for more such knocks!

  • on November 1, 2010, 17:32 GMT

    These Pakistanis , they just keep rising from the ashes. I support Sri Lanka at the world cup but if they can't make it..I hope Pakistan would win it :)...I think thats the best thing that could happen to cricket at this point.

  • Nadeem1976 on November 1, 2010, 17:12 GMT

    How could PCB give captaincy to Misbah when talent and player like Razzaq is in the team. I am damn sure given oppertunity in test matches he can bat far better than Misbah ul haq. Razzaq is always been a great match winning alrounder but PCB always rejects him as a player becuase he was best buddy of wasim akram. Any body who was good buddy of wasim akram is degraded by PCB in last 10 years. This is not fair , either you allow players to play or just dont select them but dont disrespect the game and talent of abdul razzaq.

    he is far better player than Younas, Malik, Misbah , and all other low level players. He is perfect match to Afridi's brilliance in ODI and T2020.

    Give respect to this guy , he is playing for last 15 years. He needs respect. Great innings by the way.

  • Mohy1234 on November 1, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    JAKKA WHAT A PLAYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    His Bowling is not used properly he should never be an opening bowler because he hasn't go that much pace anymore. He SHOULD be used in the middle overs (20-35) like paul collingwood or styris (and of course Jacques Kallis). He SHOULD just bowl wicket to wicket with the keeper up to the stumps. Then he won't get smacked and could ball his quota of overs.

  • chilled_avenger on November 1, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    A good inning by Abdul Razzaq,but he is overrating himself here by saying "Pak has faild to maximise his potential". In last 20 matches,prior to this one,he scored 325 runs at 23.21,and took 15 wickets at 43.33 ! He should concentrate on cementing his place in the team.Just one inning does not make up for his last 20-something matches' performance.

  • syedahmed91 on November 1, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    Please, please, please don't ruin razzaq's career furthur by giving him captaincy. Please don't. Just like Sachin was never captaincy material, razzaq is not a captaincy material. Razzaq needs to cemet his spot on his own. I've been his fan for many years and I would take him over afridi any given day but he has to perform like this more. No doubt in my mind that he's matured, he is still potent but much more matured which is a deadly combination in his case. He's gonna do more amazing things for pakistan if you let him play his natural game and specify on what his role in the side is (I think afridi has helped razzaq figure himself out) Keep razzaq away from captaincy and razzaq will win alot more matchs like that for pakistan. Razzaq's role in the side should be like VVS' in india or MEK hussey in australia late middle order, hard hitting, game winning. RAZZAQ THE PUNISHER.

  • DesiCricketfan on November 1, 2010, 16:26 GMT

    Ijaz Butt's needs to take his BUTT somewhere, where he can not interfere in Cricket. Pakistan's biggest prblem IJAZ BUTT. Ind/Pak ODI or TEST series were the biggest ever, these were even bigger than ASHES. ASHES were really like ashes as compare to IND/PAK games. But from last few years the management hav messed so much. I hope and wish to see pak in full form and play a series amongst thm. Good Luck to Pak. I wish that Pak cricket raches back where they actually deserve to be.

  • DesiCricketfan on November 1, 2010, 16:20 GMT

    A great Innings from a player who has seen so much ups and downs.Razzaq is a great player and all indians wish him and PAK team good luck. Razzaq is partially right about un-certainties, if you are not performing you should get enough chances but if you are failling constatntly failling then there is no choice for the board, But there needs to be exceptions for players like, Razzaq, Tanvir, Shoaib Malik and others.. look at our Indian Board How much faith they have in Ravinder Jadeja LOL.... Pakistan's biggest problem is changing the team captains every other series, either they change the captain or Captain quits himself. I do not know if somene noticed the body language of Misbah while batting in the last game, Since he is Test team captain and when his partner said something to him when Misvah hit a boundary, Misbah was full of attitude. Pak needs a calm and composed captain just Like Younis or Yousuf. Pak needs Imran Khan to be there Chief and Get rid of Ijaz Butt.Good Luck Pak

  • nithy34 on November 1, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    SEE the second ODI of pak Vs Eng, No.7 position is very important to win a match, in this albie morkel is not performed well, Razaaq performed well. so Indian selectors have to think that Irfan pathan is the only choice for that position for the world cup.

  • on November 1, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    @mark00.. I have seen sachin since he was 13 years old , on the ground and on tv.. you should ask Shane Warne about the raw hitting power/reflex/bat speed of Sachin in the 90s..His back gave away in early 2000, causing him to not hit some of those shots..

  • MaarifSohail on November 1, 2010, 14:57 GMT

    As Razzaq would say,When you play with your heart & the Proteas would be saying ah...the heart is a lonely hunter, as Razzaq went for a solo hunting expedition, innocent brilliance coupled with brutal and savage display of the willow against the leather. Hats off, I wish people would listen especially the Patron of the PCB & let things take their natural course of action. Pakistan cricket is a notch above or below the top team whether its the one day competition or the test matches or the silly cricket 2020. All we need is to purge losers like Ejaz Butt, Intikhab Alam , Wasim Bari and the manipulators like Tauqir Zia and Amir Sohail.Chances are that removal of the board would bring in even more ugly group of manipulators. A profit earning corp should be operated like one.Let the ICC appoint its own management team to run Pakistani cricket as it would seriously increase the chances of fair display of strengths of a cricketing side which plays with 360 million eyes &180 million hearts

  • on November 1, 2010, 14:57 GMT

    It was one of the greatest inning from Abdul Razzak and i know he is the dengerous batsman i have seen in recent cricket but the comment is not right from Razzak becose not even Pakistan cricket utilise him he also never belive himself and never come as a regular player he has ability he also should utilised his ability and he is the man i like from pakistan team..........bravo.........u can do it Razzak do it many time without looking anywhere just look at u and do it.....

  • cricinme on November 1, 2010, 14:50 GMT

    15 years of playing for Pakistan, so many a match saving innings, physically fittest player of all, non controversial player, always giving his best to the team and yet he is never considered for captaincy. Why, why ? This knock of his was a one -man- show for Pakistans victory and i doubt anyone else in this team could play such a knock again.Afridis days as captain are numbered and Razzaq should be made captain for the world cup.

  • on November 1, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    Razzaq is 100% right here. Pakistan management needs to take of the cloud of uncertainty from its players. Second, set up a batting order; dont experiment too much with players. Why were/still are Inzi, M. Yousuf and Y.Khan so successful, because they had almost permanent (injuries aside) batting spot. But look at Razzaq, Shohaib Malik and even Azhar Mahmood they had some good moments, but as soon as they had one bad inning they were dropped or their batting spot was changed. Have some stability in management and in the team.

  • LeftBrain on November 1, 2010, 14:43 GMT

    Abdul Razzaq played a gem of an innings, singlenadedly won us the match. He is a good cricketer with game changing potential, he was dropped and his batting position was neversettled. He also have the right to express his thoughts like he did.

    But he, being a bowling all-rounder, have to look at his performance over past five or so years. He is so in-consistent and deserved to be dropped. Keeping faith in existing players and giving youngsters chance to show their potential is a fine balance. If management remain keeping faith in failing players, they will never be able to introduce yound players in the team.

    Abdul Razzaq deserve to be backed now as he is performing, he didnt deserved to be backed when he was failing the whole country. This is players job to perform, their is no free money in any business.

  • mits6 on November 1, 2010, 14:40 GMT

    great ... , great ...., great innings. Dear ,razzak everyone thinks the same ,except PCB officials ,hope your words reach their ear .

  • passionate_cricket_follower on November 1, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    i don't know why Pakistan does not pick their best 11 and end up losing matches. Abdul Razzaq should be an unanimous choice in all 3 formats of the game. He should be immediately drafted into the test squad if Pakistan has to do well.

  • SnowSnake on November 1, 2010, 14:28 GMT

    Amazing innings from Razzak. It reminded me of what Pakistan cricket used to be. I disagree on the comment of removing uncertainty. Batsmen deliver only when there is uncertainty over their selection. Razzak wants to milk this innings to find a permanent place in the team. In today's would you have to deliver consistently to keep your place. Razzzak & Pak. should now focus on winning the series.

  • zohebchampion on November 1, 2010, 14:24 GMT

    It was a great innings and one the best ever played by any Pakistani.Pakistan needed something like this to lift it's moral after controversies decided not to leave the Pakistan team.Now we need to watch how much impact this victory makes in this series. I just want to hope for the best.

  • LordOfCric on November 1, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    I always believe that Razzak is bigger player than much overated Shahid Afridi. How many time Afridi has snatched a win from opponents grip. Razzak has done it so many time..... Razzak should be a permenant member of pakistan squad. What an inning that was...... Awesomeeee just Awesomeeee.......

  • Arsalan_RC on November 1, 2010, 14:03 GMT

    Well, No doubt it was a breathtaking knock, but Abdul Razzaq has not been performing well in the last 3 years or so either, and hence been dropped several times. (excluding the ICL drama)

    One cannot keep giving chances to someone who is not performing well on a regular basis, at least with the bat in Abdul Razzaq's case. ( he cant be in the team for his bowling alone, there one may pick a genuine bowler then to play Abdul Razzaq for only his bowling)

    But since he has, apparently, found hos groove and form, lets see if he can be a bit consistent. He will get ample opportunities even if he bats lower down the order because of the inevitable Pakistan batting collapses!

    Good Luck Abdul Razzaq. i hope you can perform with the bat in the World cup. You can make a big difference to the Pakistan World cup campaign

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    Abdul Razzak is the VVS of Pak cricket (in terms of his inclusion in the team.) Always the Damocles' sword is hanging over his head waiting for just a couple of non-performances. He has been an unsung hero of Pak cricket who has not got his due and naturally feels insecure. He really got Pakistan out of jail yesterday a la the escape artist Sa;vador Dali. He played a gutsy and glorious innings. But obviously he lacks a god father in the power corridors of PCB and so is now on now off as per PCB's whims and fancies.

    IMHO, he shold be made the skipper of Pakistan in all the three formats and bring the necessary stability needed by the team.

  • Mark00 on November 1, 2010, 13:49 GMT

    Nearly all of the batsmen averaging 50+ in tests are incapable of playing the shots unleashed by Razzaq in this match.

    It was easily one of the most incredible ODI innings i have ever seen.

    It's a funny thing about unusually gifted players in that, for some reason, few ever convert their talent into a long and successful career whle players, like Tendulkar, who may not have quite the same raw physical ability in terms of power, eye, reflexes, and quick movement have attained high career averages and various accumulation records such as 50s, 100s, etc.

  • poderdubdubdub on November 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    Razzaq is 100% right, his career has been tempered with, and so many times that its surprising that he still is as magical as you get. He is a selfless servant of Pakistan cricket for over a decade. When he was at 99 he still did not go for a single to secure his personal landmark, instead he took the risk of hitting a SIX as the objective was a victory for Pakistan and not the personal glory of completing a hundred for himself, shine on Razzaq shine on, I salute you.

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    What a knock! Not many times you can see an innings like this. Well done Pakistan & well done Razzaq!

    @Razzaq comments: Well said Razzaq. I must say that they have strangely left many good players out. One such example in my opinion is Suhail Tanwir.

  • asadkum on November 1, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA................................................................ I do agree 100% with Razzak !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has not been rated properly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway Razzak ....Please keep it up .................................................. What an innings !!!!!!!! Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    2ND ODI between S.A n PAK, undebatable BEST ODI forever

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    xoxoxo Razzaq.......u made us feel as if we have won the world cup.....hehe

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    Dear Mr.Srinivasan, please pick Razzaq for Chennai kings next year.

  • sherishahmir on November 1, 2010, 13:31 GMT

    The inning of Razaq was class and mere a slap on the face of Mr But & Co and the president of Pak (Mr Zardari) ,who is patron cheif of Pak cricket & their predecessors for their ill management of Pak cricket.

    Good work Razak, keep it up till you r in the side.

  • UltimateCricExpert on November 1, 2010, 13:26 GMT

    Atlast Pakistan is in news for some positive news. Their best batting performance in any format during the last one year

  • PlayfromDallas on November 1, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Because we have more talented player then you Razzaq Bahi (Brother Razzaq) :-). Razaq's talent can be better utilized if he plays as batting alrounder rather then bowling alrounder. However this performance of Razzaq suggest give him what he wants.

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:16 GMT

    Abdur Razaq has always contributed to Pakistan cricket, he had been consistent and honorous in his duties. He is just in telling that removing players after one or two chances is not fair, the fear trails over their minds while playing on the ground causing them to haste in insecurity. He is also fair about his batting and spot in the team. Nevertheless, he should understand fixing matter will take time to faint of the minds of true cricket lovers.

  • DINESHCC on November 1, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    His talent is not utilized? He performed after 25 matches and commented that his talent is not properly utilized. It is absolutely true that he won the match for Pakistan from nowhere. But the truth is he is not consistent.

  • polleyhs on November 1, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    razzaq has played the greatest innings in odi history with out any arguement.razzaq shud be used properly in both departments.in bowling and in batting.send him in the middle order and in the bowling department he should be given in the middle overs.PCB look at it carefully. PLZ

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  • polleyhs on November 1, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    razzaq has played the greatest innings in odi history with out any arguement.razzaq shud be used properly in both departments.in bowling and in batting.send him in the middle order and in the bowling department he should be given in the middle overs.PCB look at it carefully. PLZ

  • DINESHCC on November 1, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    His talent is not utilized? He performed after 25 matches and commented that his talent is not properly utilized. It is absolutely true that he won the match for Pakistan from nowhere. But the truth is he is not consistent.

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:16 GMT

    Abdur Razaq has always contributed to Pakistan cricket, he had been consistent and honorous in his duties. He is just in telling that removing players after one or two chances is not fair, the fear trails over their minds while playing on the ground causing them to haste in insecurity. He is also fair about his batting and spot in the team. Nevertheless, he should understand fixing matter will take time to faint of the minds of true cricket lovers.

  • PlayfromDallas on November 1, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Because we have more talented player then you Razzaq Bahi (Brother Razzaq) :-). Razaq's talent can be better utilized if he plays as batting alrounder rather then bowling alrounder. However this performance of Razzaq suggest give him what he wants.

  • UltimateCricExpert on November 1, 2010, 13:26 GMT

    Atlast Pakistan is in news for some positive news. Their best batting performance in any format during the last one year

  • sherishahmir on November 1, 2010, 13:31 GMT

    The inning of Razaq was class and mere a slap on the face of Mr But & Co and the president of Pak (Mr Zardari) ,who is patron cheif of Pak cricket & their predecessors for their ill management of Pak cricket.

    Good work Razak, keep it up till you r in the side.

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    Dear Mr.Srinivasan, please pick Razzaq for Chennai kings next year.

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    xoxoxo Razzaq.......u made us feel as if we have won the world cup.....hehe

  • on November 1, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    2ND ODI between S.A n PAK, undebatable BEST ODI forever

  • asadkum on November 1, 2010, 13:42 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA................................................................ I do agree 100% with Razzak !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He has not been rated properly !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway Razzak ....Please keep it up .................................................. What an innings !!!!!!!! Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!