Pakistan v South Africa, 2nd Test, Dubai, 4th day

PCB wants clarification on 'inconsistent' ball-tampering penalty

ESPNcricinfo staff

October 26, 2013

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Waqar: Faf got off easy

Najam Sethi, the chairman of the interim management committee running the PCB, has said the Pakistan board wants clarification from the ICC on the "inconsistency" in the application of the ball-tampering rule. Pakistan's Shahid Afridi was banned for two Twenty20s in early 2010 for a ball-tampering offence that was loosely similar to the one involving Faf du Plessis in Dubai, for which du Plessis has been fined.

Sethi tweeted on Saturday evening: "PCB is writing letter to ICC seeking explanation of inconsistency by match referee in application of ball tampering rule to Afridi vs Faf." The PCB confirmed to ESPNcricinfo that this was the case.

Waqar Younis, speaking to ESPNcricinfo after the Test finished, also believed the fine was lenient: "I think, to be very honest, Faf got away with it with just 50% of the match fee. I thought it was a bit of frustration from the South Africans, they did not need to do that. It leaves a big question mark on South Africa's credibility."

Ball-tampering, which is a level two offence, comes with a fine of 50 to 100% of the match fee, and/or a ban of one Test or two limited-overs games.


A screen grab of Shahid Afridi biting the ball, Australia v Pakistan, 5th ODI, Perth, January 31, 2010
Shahid Afridi had picked up a two-T20 ban after his 'biting' episode
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Afridi had pleaded guilty to ball-tampering during an Australia-Pakistan ODI, in which he was captaining, in Perth, In January 2010. He was charged with an article 2.2.9 offence of the ICC code of conduct which relates to "changing the condition of the ball in breach of law 42.3 of the laws of cricket". Afridi was seen on television apparently biting the ball on a couple of occasions. His transgression was picked up the by the third umpire, and reported to the on-field umpires, who, after a chat with Afridi, changed the ball. Afridi was called into a hearing with the match referee Ranjan Madugalle immediately after the match, where he apologised for his actions.

Du Plessis pleaded guilty to the charge of ball-tampering during the Dubai Test on Friday, and was fined 50% of his match fee by match referee David Boon. In du Plessis' case, the incident occurred following television visuals of du Plessis rubbing the ball near the zipper of his trouser pocket. The TV umpire brought it to the attention of the on-field umpires Ian Gould and Rod Tucker, who called Graeme Smith over for a chat and subsequently changed the ball and awarded a five-run penalty against South Africa, sanctions that are consistent with the penalty for unlawfully changing the condition of the ball.

Pakistan captain Misbah-ul-Haq, speaking after the Test, refrained from commenting on the issue. "It has nothing to do with us," Misbah said. "It's between the match officials and their team. It's none of our business."

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Posted by Psimondo on (October 29, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

I think the rule needs some changes. Bowlers have little help as it is.

How about allowing some manipulation of the ball provided no tools are used?

Letting players use their fingers. No zips, or dirt or bottle tops. But picking the seam or scratching the ball? Everyone that plays cricket has hands. No unfair advantage, no radical change in the condition of the ball if you can only use your hands - especially if the amount of time they can handle the ball is controlled with with stricter over rate penalties.

Posted by rehan_abbasi on (October 29, 2013, 5:43 GMT)

Any One remember this incident when Shoaib Akhtar Was banned for 2 matches for breaching the same law 42.3 http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/story/131445.html

Posted by asiacricket1234 on (October 28, 2013, 18:40 GMT)

Faf admitted his crime and apologized for it probably thats why he got away easy. Situation with Afridi was different. He bite the ball like an apple and when asked he said he was smelling the ball and when pointed out that he had his teeth around the ball he went angry but even after that he didn't apologize. So probably Afridi's punishment have something to do with his unapologetic attitude

Posted by SeamingWicket on (October 28, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

Ball tampering should legalized It gives bowlers at least some hope of getting wickets in these overly batsman friendly conditions of today

Posted by TheProfPak on (October 28, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

5 run penalty is rubbish from ICC. That shows how lenient the cricket governing body is towards the game of Cricket. Instead the captain of the team or the member caught doing it should be sent out of the field for 5-10 overs. This should be an appropriate penalty, and enough threat for all players.

Posted by jackiethepen on (October 28, 2013, 15:43 GMT)

The five run penalty seems ridiculous. The ball is tampered with in order to take a wicket (or two). The offender should lose his match fee and be suspended for a couple of games. Then there will be less willing participants in ball tampering. Du Plessis was given a job to look after the ball, it isn't illegal to shine the ball on trousers or sleeves. He chose to scuff the ball (on his hidden zipper) and has admitted his guilt. The match referee was too lenient and the PCB is quite right to complain.

Posted by Stevros3 on (October 28, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

I'm intrested in the ICC viewpoint on the appropriateness of a 5 run penalty?

If ball tampering causes excessive movement it could easily cause 1 more wicket to fall. I'm interested to know the number of matches that have been won by only 1 wicket as opposed to 5 or less runs?

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (October 28, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

The ICC needs to understand how much of a joke this punishment is. 50% of a Test Match fee? Are you kidding me? I hate to break it to them, but nobody plays Test Matches for the money... And with Faf having a contract with the Chennai Super Kings, I don't see why he should be disturbed by this. At the LEAST, the ICC should give him a more heftier fine. In the end, I see the ICC taking over all cricket boards and standardizing everything (as it should be). This allows countries to play a certain amount of games per year and makes sure they play every team an equal amounts. By regulating the pitches, they also ensure that the surface is not too flat, nor too unfair. In those situations, ball tampering is an even more serious offense and should/would be treated more harshly

Posted by   on (October 28, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

Here is a complete list of the players fined or suspended for ball tampering

Waqar Younis (Pakistan) fined 50 percent match fee and suspended for one one-day, Colombo 2000

Azhar Mahmood (Pakistan) fined 30 percent match fee, Colombo 2000

Sachin Tendulkar (India) vs South Africa Port Elizabeth Test - fined 75 percent fee and suspended suspension for one Test in 2001

Shoaib Akhtar fined 75 percent fee and banned for two one-day matches tri-series vs Sri Lanka in Dambulla - 2003

Rahul Dravid (India) vs Zimbabwe one-day Äfined 50 percent fee in Brisbane 2004

Shahid Afridi (Pakistan) vs Australia in a one-day Perth 2010

banned for two T20s

Micheal Atherton (England) vs South Africa Oval Test, fined 2,000 pound by England and Wales Cricket Board, 30 percent by match referee on showing dissent - 1994. - Sapa-AFP

Posted by   on (October 28, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

pcb must stand up of this non justice . icc remain neutral and treat equally with anyone.

Posted by dilscoop_uk on (October 28, 2013, 11:14 GMT)

Biased ICC !!! Please be sensible and change the rule, give fair chance to the bowlers.

Posted by ToeCruncher on (October 28, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

I dont understand the hoo-haa here? Biting a ball is somewhat different to rubbing a ball. All cricketers rub the shiny side - to make it shine! This, in theory is ball tampering (changing the condition of the ball). Obviously, ball tampering must relate to scuffing up the non-shiny side of the ball, either by using your teeth, or rubbing the ball close (or on) a metallic zipper. Somehow, biting the ball seems more preposterous than performing the normal action of rubbing the ball. One is quite deliberate, the other less so. Thus the difference in the fines. I think the whole law relating to ball tampering needs to be rethought.

Posted by Selassie-I on (October 28, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

I agree, it is unfair, where is the ban? England fan but these punishments should be the same for everybody, captain or not.

Posted by IC_M on (October 28, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

@Javed Ahmad, I agree with you, Styne and Philander getting reverse swing because the whole SA team involved. Similar to the whole Pakistan team during 80's and 90's considering the amount of reverse swing Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younic used to generate.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (October 28, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

@Charlie101, completely agree, any team caught tampering with the ball should have a player (Ideally the guilty party) sin-binned for the rest of that innings, just like a bowler who recieves too many warnings for running on the pitch is not allowed to bowl for the rest of the innings.

I would also introduce a ban equivalent to 10 days of international cricket (2 tests, 10 ODI's or 20 T20i's) for the guilty party.

Posted by ranaaamir on (October 28, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

Come on PCB, don't give up

Posted by Charlie101 on (October 28, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

I think the minimum should be 50% of the whole teams match fee and a 50 run penalty. If you look at other sports such as rugby where a player is sin binned for dangerous play or just persistant infringments the penalty can change the course and momentum of the match and I would like to see this in cricket .

Posted by Vic010 on (October 28, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

Afridi has history with this sort of thing, SA doesn't. I think that's what might have got Faf his light sentence.

Posted by ramli on (October 28, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

Excuse me Sparta Leonidas ... Imran Khan would have blown the lid off on this issue ... especially if he had also been the captain when Afridi matter happened ... IK is a no-nonsense cricketer

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 28, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

Well done Pakistan for bringing this discrepancy to ICC's attention. Rules should be applied fairly to all.

Posted by   on (October 28, 2013, 7:01 GMT)

Faf got off easy. Very easy. The fact that his actions were not as blatant as those of Afridi's shouldn't be an excuse for not giving him the maximum punishment. If anything, tampering so subtly and then acting as if nothing had happened indicates that he's been doing it routinely as part of a methodical approach to 'prepare' the ball. There was no shock, no show of emotion when he was called by the umpires. Not from Faf, not from Smith. They just said change the ball and get on with it. Afridi did it clearly out of desperation and didn't put any thought in it. It's obvious his was a one-time offense and Faf's was a planned one which only got highighted because it was caught. The ICC should be ashamed of it's double standards. An inquiry needs to be launched as to how SA were getting the ball to reverse swing so early even in the first innings once Azhar and Masood had seen off the new ball. They've tainted their achievements by their own actions.

Posted by StevieS on (October 28, 2013, 5:42 GMT)

As a neutral all I can say is if you can't see the difference in the two you need to take your biased glasses off. Afridi should of been banned for life from all cricket. Tampering is one thing but be so blatant and blase about it is something else.

Posted by dsig3 on (October 28, 2013, 2:30 GMT)

2 T20's are a bit different to a test match so its hard to compare. Would of set a good precedent if they had sent Faf away for a match, would of quietened alot of Asian reporting too.

Posted by _Cover_Drive on (October 28, 2013, 1:21 GMT)

No double standards but rather, low standards towards South Asian teams.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

Wow, good to see Pakistan fans giving credit where credit is due... Or not.

Posted by ilililililililililililililx on (October 27, 2013, 20:35 GMT)

5 run penalty. Is that not too much.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

Sethi has got a point , there shouldn't be any double standards ..

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

@ Anthony Purcell If I agree with you, its mean ICC is setting a precedent to change the condition of the ball by this particular way and penalty would be only 50% of your match fee?

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

Misbah is one of the rare mature ppl pakistan team ever had. Jus like Imran Khan. Respect!

Posted by Wajjih on (October 27, 2013, 13:20 GMT)

No matter Faf has been fined or would have been banned for 1 or 2 matches but his this shameful act let every fan of SA team down. What have you done Faf. you should be sorry to the fans of SA cricket team.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

Hi all ! just watch the match highlights and see how SA fast bowlers were swinging the ball from early 20 overs (Younis Khan wicket in 1st innings is a perfect example). And then, how ineffective they became after the ball was changed.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

Very lucky indeed to get away with such a lenient penalty.

The proverbial slap with the wet lettuce leaf.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (October 27, 2013, 11:55 GMT)

Why so low penalty. Should be no less than 1 - or 2 - match suspension.

Posted by grizzle on (October 27, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Misbah is a champion for the way he responded.

Posted by Ajay_999 on (October 27, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Just because of the fact that faf did what he did, and the ball started to behave oddly, it doesnt mean that the saffas tamper with the ball everytime as some hav pointed out. (Not saying they would hav neevr done it though)

Posted by Captain_Tuk_Tuk on (October 27, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

I personally don't like Misbah but his comment on tampering was great. Its the issue of South Africa and match officials. We lost because we played bad cricket thats it. We should play some good cricket to win rather than participating in controversies to hide our defeat.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 10:17 GMT)

In my opinion ICC has shown too much indulgence in case of ball tempering by SA players. Stringent action should have been taken against the culprits. It is evident from the video feeds that deliberately the ball was rubbed against the zipper and nails were also used. SHAME ON SA players.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 9:39 GMT)

In my opinion there should be harsh punishments with at least 5 match ban, and the down in the ranking list at least by 10 points so that no one will have the courage to do it again Javed

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

The whole South African team is involved in this ball tempering Now we understand how Steyn and Philander do the reverse swing Javed

Posted by Oraclebob on (October 27, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

"by nzcricket174 - Are you joking? Afridi tried to eat the ball." This made me lol 1. I am South African, and i am very unhappy that Du Plessis has put a question mark over our team, as Waqar rightly says. Did it affect the game result? Probably not, but the label of ball tampering is much worse than losing a game. 2. a 5 run penalty for ball tampering is ridiculous. 3. Misbah is a fantastic player, and his comment is perfect. Big respect to him.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

My suggested penalty: Remove the fielder/bowler off the field for rest of the match who is directly involved in the ball tempering and has been proved (by video camera etc) ... no need of financial fine. Keep 5 runs awarded to the batting team, not as an advantage to them (as 5 runs are worth nothing against the adverse effect caused by tempering on the course of the match), but just as a SYMBOLIC indicator of the happening of the incident. Don't remove captain off for the remaining match, but ban him for next two international contests of similar kind (means if he/his team does tempering in a test match, ban him for 2 test matches, if in T20 ... ban him for 2 T20Is). Conclusion: No team will even think of doing it next time because they may have seen the worst result by playing less than 11 players in that match !

Posted by Cricket_Man on (October 27, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

@ Bling01: I completely agree with your comment.

@ Ahmad Saeed: Bro, you are spot on. I also saw the ball reversing on the first day before lunch and I was surprised by it and as soon as the ball was changed when Faf was caught the ball didn't reverse.

A deep investigation should be carried out by ICC whether it was Faf's own action or was the entire team a party to this offense. Just because it was Faf who got caught doesn't mean others in the team are innocent. I just can't digest the fact that none of the other players knew about it. They must have been keeping an eye on the ball constantly. After the first test South Africa were desperate to win the second test because had they lost or drawn the second test their record of not losing an away series since 2006 (i guess) would have been broken. Perhaps, it was a desperate ploy by the Saffers. Please post Cricinfo!!

Posted by dmat on (October 27, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

dunger bob. I too am neutral but to me ball tampering is ball tampering. Faf did this deliberately and has actually plead guilty to the offence. I think there is a bigger question which is not being asked - was he instructed to do this by the captain (he was designated ball polisher)? If so, is Faf just the fall guy and should Smith's integrity be questioned? The penalties are meaningless - 5 runs when you lead by 400 and 50% of match fee when you make $600k+ Time for ICC to get tough on this. Players should be banned for 3-5 games as a first offence then increase from there. On top of that they should forfeit a considerable chunk of their contract money. Also the team should forfeit the match. Let's see them tamper with the ball then.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

isnt ball tampering in a Test match more serious than in an odi?

Posted by fazil03 on (October 27, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

I am from Sri Lanka , this is so bad for ICC if the players doing mistake it should be written panelty in the Book of Rules and reguslation of the cricket it dosen't metter who did .Shame on ICC.

Posted by borninthetimeofSRT on (October 27, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

Consider what Faf did, had it been done by a Pak player, things would have panned out differently in the media and ICC, as well as the cricket fraternity. It is a shame that there are double standards in this beautiful game. One person can get away easily with a fine on a serious intention of tampering the ball. Had it been done by a Sri Lankan player or Pakistani player, or any other weak cricketing nation, that player would have been banned by now. There's a general perception about Pakistan that they don't play a fair game. But I think over the years, with all the international cricket struggling to take place in the country and its players not being a part in IPL, Pakistan has come a long way and have gained respect.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

waqar is right that a big question mark on credibility. if it can be done when there is 99.99% chance of SA winning and after scoring 418 lead in 1 st innings against a fragile batting line up then what would have happened in past when team was in rather difficult situation?

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

we have seen icc explaining on field umpire's lbws and even 3rd umpire's drs explaination in the past. so whats wrong in this 1?

the comparision of afridi is wrong here. afridi was totally wrong and no other reason he can provide for that. it was total wrong. however, we have many examples where players banned because of scratching the ball. i think shoaib akhter was banned for 2 games? if i am not wrong.

icc should explain how match refree reached to the decision that faf did not do it intentionally? where as the only video available is very much clear about that. he rubbed other side away from zip. then hold the trouser to make zip visible and rubbed rough side on it and was clearly seen looking at it. so how match refree reached that decision?

afridis comparision here is just to confuse people more.

Posted by humi_cric on (October 27, 2013, 7:32 GMT)

I am pretty sure, if you compare the ball used by SA in 99 runs innings then even 5 overs older ball (40 or 45 over bowled ball) will be in a good shape/condition then the 36+ overs ball. Love to see, if any BCCI investigator/media man can show a documentary on this issue by showing these two ball (because only BCCI person can touch that ball now). SA were frustrated by first test defeat and ---------. I was always a big Fan of SA team (since 1992 WorldCup, extremely disappointed when they lost the match against England in 92 semis because of the rain), my second favourite team after Pakistan. Now I am expecting a serious step from CSA against Faf and Philander (steyn is very smart), that would be good for CSA and SA team reputation in the long term.

Posted by jaashky on (October 27, 2013, 7:15 GMT)

There is no comparison of Shahid Afridi Incident of ball tampering with the current incident of FAF because FAF if did it will fully he has done it with perfect alibi i.e. shining the ball and unknowingly rubbed it with a part near to the zipper erroneously. However, Mr. Shahid Khan Afridi was visibly trying to chew the ball like apple which by any means not in any of the cricket terms a method for shining a cricket ball.

Further, a similar instance was occurred when penalty of 5 runs and change of ball is awarded in England against the act of Muhammad Asif after which the whole idiotic episode of inzimam ul haq decision of not returning to cricket ground after tea break was occurred.

I think the two reasons FAF got this lenient penalty are: 1. Intentionally or not, but having a perfect alibi of using conventional ball shining procedure 2. Just accepted the decision and the charges without much fuss

Posted by Manojverkot on (October 27, 2013, 7:12 GMT)

Its very clear from the video that he did it on purpose, first it was nailed and then was rubbed on the zip.... Pretty shameful... A harsh punishment should have been given... A little Biased ????

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (October 27, 2013, 7:07 GMT)

I cant understand why Afridi's photo is displayed in this article! Show Faf's photo coz Afridi's photo took the rounds in 2010. The issue now is of Faf's. Also, it should be ban for Faf, not some 50% of match fee fine.

Posted by shahrozmukhtar on (October 27, 2013, 7:06 GMT)

well i totally agree with waqar..big question on south africa's credibility.it would have been more nice to see losing them rather seeing winning them this way.if they have done nothing wrong they should have forfeit the match.will be intersting to see now that how they respond in remaining series

Posted by SaadRocx on (October 27, 2013, 7:06 GMT)

If it had happened against India it would have been a total different story..Afridi did it in a t20 game and got banned for 2 matches, Duplessis did it in a test match (The Highest form of test cricket) and got fined 50% of match fee? SA clearly brought the integrity of the test cricket into disrepute.

Posted by dunger.bob on (October 27, 2013, 7:05 GMT)

I think it all depends on whether you think punishment should be black and white or have shades of grey. It all gets down to perceived intent imo.

I'm a neutral in this fracas but I've got to say there seems a pretty big difference in the two offences. We have one player sticking the ball in his gob and giving it a good old chew and the other player rubbing the ball on his trousers (which is perfectly legitimate) but in the vicinity of a zipper which would undoubtedly cause some damage to the ball but clearly not as much as a healthy set of chompers.

I'm no lawyer, but I reckon there is a clear division between the perceived intent of the two players and, given that, I think the decision is fair and justice has been done.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

Agreed 100%. du Plessis should be banned from the game for a lengthy time.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 6:18 GMT)

As a SA supporter I feel that FAF has let SA down and should do the honourable thing and resign as captain of the T20 team and not be available for any SA team again. His form is so poor that he will not be missed.

Posted by Masking_Tape on (October 27, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

@Green_Track, yeah because in soccer games refs don't make mistakes, ever. Soccer is popular because it's soccer, not because of FIFA.

Posted by Raghzzz on (October 27, 2013, 5:24 GMT)

Another instance of double standards.. 1 test ban should've been bare minimum.. Feel sorry for Paks they always seem to get wrong end of the stick when it comes to tampering..

Posted by Pavinasen on (October 27, 2013, 5:20 GMT)

Now the cricket authorities must decide if there different forms of ball tampering.One question why is it that Pakistan gets the harshest treatment for any form of misconduct and other countries get a slap on the wrist

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

D. Ramdin was also banned for a match I guess which hurt WI fans immensely.But then again there would be an explanation for that too I guess! For me personally, I love Duplessis. That isn't the issue here. Its the strange on/off application of the ban. And im not even saying these rules are reserved for some countries and not others too. I've seen the same set of double application applied on the same countries even! I mean ban a player from India for example for an offense and at other times a player from the same country getting away for a similar or different offence (ofcourse the argument given there/here is that that offence is different even though its vulgar/cheating basically)I know the same punishment cannot be given for offences varying in degrees (but im talking about similar cases though not exactly a copy) It hurts an individual immensely and even the country if these rules arent dealt properly, carefully & uniformly!I remember warnie receiving n mcgrath getting away too!

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 5:05 GMT)

ICC is clearly showing double standards by giving lesser punishment to the same offence.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 5:02 GMT)

ICC is always right. No matter what anyone says there are not going to change their way how they operate.

Posted by JohnofBurgundy on (October 27, 2013, 4:57 GMT)

Have to agree. Definite double standards until a "clarification" arrives. Does any one agree that 5 runs is not really a serious penalty? If altering the ball has got you a precious wicket (a top batsman for example) before it is detected (and who is saying they know exactly when any tampering starts?) surely 5 runs is a price worth paying. How about 20 runs in a T20, 30 runs in an ODI (both reducing should the overs bee reduced) and 50 runs in a Test match. Domestic matches can be decided by their boards. At least the punishment is a strong one.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 4:46 GMT)

Its clear discrimination on part of ICC,at least ICC should have voluntarily given explanation with the decision....

Posted by farby on (October 27, 2013, 4:35 GMT)

Major difference in the two is Afridi was the Captain when he did it ...

Posted by czzling on (October 27, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

When i first heard about the punishment , it did seem like partiality. But then i come to think of all the breaches Afridi has indulged in. I think he did this before too and Pakistan needed a stringent punishment as it was not their first mistake with ball-tampering. And moreover biting a ball? That seems like an utter disrespect to rules. This was RSA's first such mistake.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 4:25 GMT)

Faf Du Plessis is not banned on ball tampering by ICC - International Cricket Council while Shahid khan Afridi was banned for two matches. Seriously i want to know why there are much high penalty for Pakistani Players? And relaxation for all the other teams?

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 4:17 GMT)

Shame on cricinfo. The most recent case is of SA player of ball tampering and they are showing old case of Shahid Afridi.

Posted by sifter132 on (October 27, 2013, 4:11 GMT)

Both punishments were within the guidelines, it's just that Madugalle decided to be on the harsh end of the scale to Afridi, while Boon decided to be on the lenient end to Du Plessies. These punishments are ALWAYS a matter of interpretation by the match referee, hence the variation in sentence. If you don't like it, too bad.

Posted by nzcricket174 on (October 27, 2013, 4:10 GMT)

Are you joking? Afridi tried to eat the ball.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (October 27, 2013, 4:08 GMT)

There is a big difference in match fixing and getting paid to lose than tampering with the ball to win. I think Faff punishment is too far too lenient. He should've been banned for 3 games at least. Pakistan fans have a right to be upset about the judgement but I still believe it had little outcome on the 2nd test match due to tahir first innings wicket haul and smiths batting.

Posted by furgus on (October 27, 2013, 3:57 GMT)

Seeing as the South African's were so far ahead in the game it seems a crazy thing to do. He really should be banned for two games, as was Afridi. Let's be consistent.

Posted by Kashif-Rafiq on (October 27, 2013, 3:38 GMT)

ICC has always shown double standards, its not a new thing.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 3:36 GMT)

I wonder for how long were they doing ball tempering, if a ball is being tempered with rite from the start, how can a match be fair and if a match is not fair how can it be legal match ?

Posted by GRVJPR on (October 27, 2013, 3:26 GMT)

Pakistan fans should realize that there is a spinner in their squad which picks heap of wicktes by bowling with bend elbow. They don't have any right to say that there are double standards.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

if that was Pakistan, they would ban them for more than 10 games.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 3:09 GMT)

no BCCI bashing?? surprised :)

Posted by amumtaz on (October 27, 2013, 2:22 GMT)

Sad to see South Africa get away with such a big blunder in the field. In most previous instances, the players were banned and deducted 100% of their match fee. Why so lenient this time?

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 2:20 GMT)

Im guess Afridi was in a more influencial position since he was the captain

Posted by soorajiyer on (October 27, 2013, 2:16 GMT)

Frankly it was quite evident that he was tampering with the ball. And deserved harsher punishment than 50% of the fees. Well as somebody below has said Hope is eternal!

Posted by auspan on (October 27, 2013, 2:15 GMT)

Are people actually suggesting that there is any comparison between what Faf was doing compared to Afridi? Even if Faf was being deliberate in what he was doing, Afridi's act was so blatant he deserved everything he got. Get a grip people! Misbah's comment at the end of article is spot on however.

Posted by tinkertinker on (October 27, 2013, 2:04 GMT)

We have to remember afridi was a multiple offender by the time he took a bite out of the ball, the penalties are always more severe when it's not a first offense.

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 1:47 GMT)

Inconsistent rulings by ICC should be questioned. Obviously rulings are dependent on the Country against which they are made

Posted by   on (October 27, 2013, 0:52 GMT)

The biggest issue here, is that Boon took it as an individual infraction, based on Faf's pleading guilty.

There was enough evidence to indicate that it was pre-planned by the whole team. 1. Faf was the designated ball shiner. Who assigned that role? The team. That is par for the course. 2. But, how many were wearing a Zipped pocket? Did anyone care to find out? Did anyone care to find out when the "Zipped pocket" started 3. Even in the very short clip, you can see many evidence for the groups' involvement (a) First, it was Philander who is closely inspecting the ball (b) Then we see Faf bringing the Zip to an easily reachable position on his thigh & rubbing one side of the ball, repeatedly (c) The body language of Faf when he was with the two field referees (d) Smith walking in, and gesturing to Faf to move away from the scene, in an unobtrusive fashion .

Did anyone, including media or the match referee Boon closely study all available videos form Pakistan's 99 runs 1st innings?

Posted by AngryAngy on (October 27, 2013, 0:33 GMT)

The big difference was that Afridi was captain.

Posted by GoldenAsif on (October 27, 2013, 0:28 GMT)

PCB has every right to voice their concern. This is not about winning or losing. This is about pointing out the inherent bias in handling these matters.

Posted by Cruzan on (October 26, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

It was a truly unsportman like behaviour and punish is just about right. I think PCS unfortunately seems to be upset over the defeat of the team and so this outbursts.

Posted by Happy_hamster on (October 26, 2013, 23:33 GMT)

Misbah is a credit to his country he get's so much abuse and is always dignified AND a captain that always comes up with the goods in a crisis, although it might not always be enough.

Posted by bzzd on (October 26, 2013, 23:28 GMT)

Very impressed with Misbaq's dignified response. In these comments Huzaifah Butt probably nails done what happened best.

Posted by WeirdBeard420 on (October 26, 2013, 23:23 GMT)

hahahaha guys! How can you not see the difference? Afridi was purposely biting the ball like an apple, repeatedly, with malicious intent, whereas du Plessis was merely shining the ball on his trousers (a perfectly acceptable practice under the current MCC Laws) and it happened to get caught in the zipper portion of the pocket.

Of course the two incidents deserve different punishments, regardless of nationalities involved! Besides, Afridi was his team's captain at the time, and therefore should be served an extra punishment, as he clearly reneged on his duties as captain by blatantly disregarding the Laws and spirit of cricket!

Posted by Timmuh on (October 26, 2013, 23:20 GMT)

A lot of the complaints from the cub-continent have no basis, look at the BCCI trting to control who sits on the board in South Africa, but on this occasion it is absolutely correct. That absolutely requires a suspension. The in-game penalty needs to be looked at as well. The player was identified almost immediately, the rules should be changed to remove a player for the rest of the game with no subsitutes. That means a team would only field with ten men from that point on, and if they still have to bat would only have nine wickets in any remaining innings.

Posted by Tlotoxl on (October 26, 2013, 23:14 GMT)

3 possibilities:

1) Afridi was treated more harshly because he was the captain?

2) perhaps Faf pleaded guilty a lot quicker, before he was confronted with evidence?

3) the biting did far more damage to the ball than the zip?

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 22:53 GMT)

Not sure why people expect ICC to be consistent. Nothing new and something we will see tome and again. Lets see what the explanation is from match referee. Who was the match referee?

Posted by PAKCOP on (October 26, 2013, 22:36 GMT)

Afridi was given Severe punishment because "He was the Captain of that game" and due to his History with pitch tampering too. BUt i think mainly because Afridi was Captaining the side and he did that act. I think the punishment is not inconsistent, its Fair.

Posted by Blokker on (October 26, 2013, 22:31 GMT)

Good knocks from the SA batsmen. Faf should have been banned like Afridi. We can talk about two things at once.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 22:25 GMT)

@Louis De Klerk

I am afraid isn't the topic of conversation right now, even though we may have won the match but those disgraceful actions by our players are intolerable... They deserve the right punishment, I remember when Afridi chew on the ball, he was immediately suspended for 2 matches with all those fines and stuff... Not implementing the right punishment will only bring more embarrassment to our team... It's not just about winning or losing besides there was no need for anything so stupid as we were easily gonna seal the victory but no!, Du Plessis had to do it. All those players that were involved in the tempering had lack of fate in team's ability, it's easy to tell.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 22:19 GMT)

"A bit of frustration", Waqar? When your first innings lead is still greater than 300 runs and the other team's already 3 wickets down in their second innings? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

It's pretty simple: Afridi was busted chewing on the ball which is an obvious and deliberate attempt at tampering, while du Plessis could easily just have accidentally rubbed the ball too close to his zipper. I'm not saying that it *was* accidental, but I *am* saying that, compared to Afridi's obviously deliberate indiscretion, there's enough doubt related to Faf's behavior to support the "inconsistency" in decisions here.

Posted by ThatsJustCricket on (October 26, 2013, 22:15 GMT)

Can I submit my full match fee to the match referee on day 1 and keep tampering the ball throughout the match please? Now that's funny, Isn't it? Nearly as funny (or otherwise) as the punishment here.

Posted by qzuiilw on (October 26, 2013, 22:09 GMT)

Maybe the charge was different for Du Plessis because he was shining the ball near/on the zip...Afridi was trying to eat the ball TWICE.

Posted by BlueyCollar on (October 26, 2013, 22:04 GMT)

Intentionally trying to alter the result of a game by means that fall outside of the rules is a grave offence. Those that partake in such behaviour are of a character that is not welcome in the game and penalties should reflect this. Administrators that can't grasp this fact are not up to the job of running this sport.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 22:03 GMT)

Afridi was captain. That role carries greater responsibilities and the punishment for malfeasance should correspondingly be more severe for captains.

Also, I think there is a question of the severity of the crime. Rubbing the ball on a zipper is less severe than biting it repeatedly. I understand Du Plessis was observed doing this once while Afridi bit the ball on 'a couple of occasions'.

You can argue that using the zipper is more insidious and therefore a more serious attempt to breach the rules but I think it is legally unsound to judge on the basis of the abstract ahead of the observable.

A safe principle seems to be: The more severe & sustained the attempt to change the state of the ball, the more severe the penalty should be.

Afridi's crime was more severe & more sustained & was committed while he was captain. It is therefore appropriate that his punishment be more severe than Du Plessis'.

Maybe the PCB should send a letter to CSA asking why they didn't forfeit the test.

Posted by Pakfan1947 on (October 26, 2013, 21:41 GMT)

Request to all Pakistani team fans, send your messages to ICC, what do feel about ball tempering ruling South African team did.

Posted by Dinesh_KS on (October 26, 2013, 21:37 GMT)

There is nothing new with this fine and it was on expected lines. ICC always have two set of rules. One for countries like Aus, Eng & SA and other for sub continent teams and WI. Using any abusive language involves fines and match suspension for sub continent teams but when it comes to Aust, Eng & SA the so called ICC match refree term these as Friendly Benters and such players are never penalized. This mindset of ICC officials will never change.

Posted by Pakfan1947 on (October 26, 2013, 21:36 GMT)

Alex, it is clear example, clear example is this, when umpires replace ball, South Africa can't take any wicket for long time, you can see difference your self. ICC is bias, when Afridi temper the ball, he was banned for two matches. Du Plessis temper the ball two or three times, he is sentence for 50% match fee, bravo ICC.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 21:35 GMT)

Well Done, PCB go ahead. Shahid Afridi & Shoaib Akhtar got banned for 2 matches each against balltampering. Why . . . . why South African player Faf du Plesi got only cut off 50% match fee? This was very bad descion by ICC:

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 21:32 GMT)

Did anyone notice that ball was reversing on day 1 even before lunch, that is very very strange in DSC. And pressure put by Styn was real cause of batting failure. Somebody needs to see the video of first two hours and find the real cause of reverse swing there. and in the 2nd innings when ball was changed Misbah and Asad were able to put a big partnership. I think SA will be very very happy to win a test match at the cost of 50% match fee of one player. May be some other teams of world may be following same way in future to win a match

Posted by HalfManHalfBiscuit on (October 26, 2013, 21:29 GMT)

I hardly think rubbing the ball on your pants/zip is anything like biting it 0 nevertheless it is disappointing on both occasions - as well as the hundreds that occur in almost every first class/test season...

Posted by Wexfordwonder on (October 26, 2013, 21:23 GMT)

I agree with the PCB, the fines are inconsistent. Azhar Mahmood was only fined 30% of his match fee for a similar offence.

Posted by hasib9 on (October 26, 2013, 21:20 GMT)

ICC is no FIFA.. cricket may never become half as popular as football with this kind of mind set and governing people in the ICC.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

Afridi bit a ball. Missing two t20s is nothing compared to missing two tests.

Posted by Inducker on (October 26, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

Can we have consistent high power slomo cameras following the ball around when Pakistan is fielding too ? For that matter all teams up to the time the ball starts reversing. I don't believe the nonsense about throwing ball on the ground - how do you know what side it lands on? I am sure seam picking etc has been going on in cricket for ever. Like picking huge bowlers to make rough for the spinners. The ICC recognises this which is why it has a range of punishments for ball tampering including the one du Plessis was given. Unfortunately the Pakistanis invented reverse swing so they got away with lot before anyone realised what they were doing. Don't be greedy now!

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 20:58 GMT)

Du Plessis let his team down. Cricket South Africa mush show courage and penalize him for tainting a good win.

Posted by Bling01 on (October 26, 2013, 20:58 GMT)

@ Huzaifah Butt: Cap did the right thing by distancing himself from this incident at the time however PCB should rightly drum this up as it definitly resembles in all manners of ways to Afridi 's "ball boitin" incident. Rgihtly so, had it been a Pak player caught in this fashion could you have imagined the tongue wagging - every body at every level would have gotten involved.Even all the commentators including Waqar sort of glossed over it when they should have been talking about it. This is hypocracy. Damage control is a funny thing. As AB went on to put his foot in his mouth a hastily thrown togeter strategy went to peices, as guilty party admitted the guilt and became the fall guy for every body else. A captain who is standing not a few feet away - a keeper who touches the ball a million times in the game and all of the rest of players. You haven't played a lick of cricket if Steyn, Morkel, JP or any other didn't know what was going on yet JP blatantly says we didn't see it.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 20:12 GMT)

Why should anyone be surprise over the ruling . The ICC have been all over the field when it comes to making serious decisions depending on which Country the charge is laid against . We all know that there is no level playing field out there. This is a clear example .

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 20:04 GMT)

ICC is playing a double standard role here.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 19:38 GMT)

@Louis De Klerk do you think people cared that M.Amir was man of the series when pakistan last toured england???

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

Shouldn't we be talking about a Graeme Smith doubleton and a big AB DeVilliers century right about now?

Posted by AIF2048 on (October 26, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

Great, Misbah, your opinion matters. You gain highest respect by not airing your opinion in public and during the on going series. Bravo. Hats off to you

Posted by Greatest_Game on (October 26, 2013, 17:44 GMT)

@ Huzaifah Butt - your's is a voice of reason, sir, and one most welcome, and needed, in this debate.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

The ICC doesn't have any guts.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

@Huzaifah Butt on (October 26, 2013, 15:33 GMT):

Some Board Officials, all over the world, love to walk into deep dark holes, where angels fear to tread. For some of them, they have to have "instant reaction", without which, perhaps, they can't sleep in peace. Consequences? What consequences, they may ask. If any, they will say they will cross the bridge when they have to. They would like to face the music later! Or, some patron, may pull them out of the deep dark holes, they hope! Hope is eternal. no?

Posted by SoftTalk on (October 26, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

@Huzaifa Butt, PCB did not raise any objection it is only trying to get a clarification for inconsistent penalties in two cases. A 50% match fee is a joke and it does not reflect the seriousness of the offense.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 17:02 GMT)

pakistan got the right to file the objection on the lenient punishment

Posted by   on (October 26, 2013, 15:33 GMT)

I would argue it would've been better if the PCB hadn't raised any objection and stayed silent in this matter following the footsteps of Misbah-ul-Haq at the press conference. Comparing this incident with that of Afridi at the WACA doesn't factor in the fact that Afridi was captain at the time of the incident and inherently at greater compulsion to show professional conduct. In addition, the manner in which he proceeded to tamper the ball displayed an even greater disregard for the rules by chewing it than du Plessis. He was subsequently banned for 2 T20's as opposed to having his match fees reduced. Hence with that context, any argument in this regard is highly subjective, and I would argue weak, and it would've been better for the PCB to distance itself from the matter altogether.

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