Pakistan v South Africa, 2nd ODI, Dubai October 31, 2013

A bowl-off between two aggressive attacks

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Match facts

Friday, November 1, 2013
Start time 1500 local (1100GMT)

Big Picture

On a day when 701 runs were scored in the India-Australia ODI in Nagpur, fans of the 50-over format were reminded of the drama of a low-scoring thriller, as South Africa nudged out Pakistan by one run in a tense game. However, if AB de Villiers has his way, it's unlikely there will be any more tight matches in the series.

De Villiers hoped the win would act as a catalyst for South Africa, creating more consistent one-day form for a team that has struggled to hit the high notes they find with ease in the longer format. "You need a win like this sometimes to turn things around," de Villiers said, while admitting he does not know why the batting line-up continues to fail. "We are not getting partnerships going; not playing well together as a batting unit. I believe we will get there."

Graeme Smith's return has added some stability but South Africa's middle order is still shaky. Technique, although something that cannot be altered overnight, in the UAE conditions and against a crafty spin attack is still being exposed even as the bowlers continue to save the team blushes.

Pakistan are in the same state. Their bowling attack is capable of putting the team in positions of advantage that their batsmen continually squander. They will have to find a way to play their former countryman Imran Tahir and keep runs flowing while the South Africa seamers are in operation.

For now, it remains a contest that resembles a bowl-off between two aggressive attacks feasting on two limp line-ups. In a game ruled by batsmen, that's not necessarily a bad thing, although both teams would prefer to score more runs.

Form guide

Pakistan LWWLW (last five completed games most recent first)
South Africa WLLWL

In the spotlight

A few Pakistan fans joked that because Shahid Afridi had a sensational showing with the ball in the first match, he could be relied on to taper off for the rest of the series. It's a theory he will want to prove wrong. Afridi did not take a single wicket against South Africa earlier this year and has not made a significant contribution with the bat since his innings of 76 against West Indies in July. He will search for some consistency as Pakistan hope to come back in the series.

Faf du Plessis has now gone 10 innings without scoring an ODI half-century and appears the most vulnerable middle-order batsman against Pakistan spinners. He has had a long rope, playing in all but two ODIs since he was selected in January 2011, but with an average of 27.19, his reputation can no longer be the main ground for his selection. Du Plessis needed a big performance in the first ODI to keep his place, but the lack of a suitable middle-order replacement means he is likely to have the rest of the series to turn his form around.

Team news

After their middle order crumbled, Pakistan may consider shuffling personnel. Asad Shafiq and uncapped Sohaib Maqsood will put pressure on Umar Amin for his place but the more pressing concerns are in the wicket-keeping department. AB de Villiers has admitted that Pakistan's tail starts with Umar Akmal, and the hosts may consider replacing Akmal with Sarfraz Ahmed. An attack that dismissed the opposition for under 200 needs little tinkering with, but Abdur Rehman is on hand should Pakistan opt for another spinner.

Pakistan (likely) 1 Nasir Jamshed, 2 Ahmed Shehzad, 3 Mohammad Hafeez, 4 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 5 Umar Amin/Asad Shafiq/Sohaib Maqsood, 6 Umar Akmal/Sarfraz Ahmed (wk), 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Sohail Tanvir, 9 Wahab Riaz, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Mohammad Irfan

Colin Ingram is leading the run charts in South Africa's domestic one-day competition but, with three ducks in his last three ODIs, his form isn't extending to the international stage. Hashim Amla is still waiting for the birth of his second child so South Africa may have no option but to bring Quinton de Kock in, although they may leave the glovework to de Villiers. Tahir's impressive showing in Sharjah is likely to keep Robin Peterson out again and Vernon Philander will also have to await his turn.

South Africa (likely) 1 Graeme Smith, 2 Quinton de Kock, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Faf du Plessis, 5 AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Wayne Parnell, 9 Morne Morkel, 10 Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11 Imran Tahir

Stats and trivia

  • South Africa and Pakistan have played two five-match ODI series since 2010-11. Both series have followed exactly the same pattern where South Africa have won the first, third and deciding matches, while Pakistan have won the second and fourth.
  • The one run difference between the two teams is the smallest margin of victory (in runs) this year. South Africa were also involved in two matches that ended with a one-wicket margin - both against New Zealand.
  • Misbah-ul-Haq is 102 runs behind George Bailey on the list of leading ODI run-scorers in 2013. With 41 wickets, Saeed Ajmal is two wickets behind Ravindra Jadeja on the list of leading wicket-takers in ODIs this year.

Quotes

"It's really tough to get ten wickets in the game, so that's why the totals are really close together. Back home, you get lower scores, guys really running through batting line-ups."
AB de Villiers on why there are so many tightly fought contests in ODIs in subcontinent conditions

"If we keep recalling what happened in the last match it will be difficult. We must forget that and all our players should play the next match as a new game."
Misbah-ul-Haq offers some advice to his team after their loss in the first ODI

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • spellbinder76 on November 1, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    At least the coach is consistent. For him a player must fail three times before he is replaced. A man on the street knows about in-form or out-of-form batsmen. People will criticize Afridi but he is still the second highest scorer. Whatmore may be the best coach in the world but he sure has not been very lucky for Pakistan.

  • on November 1, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    What will it take to get it through the Pakistanis heads that neither tuk tuk, nor mindless hitting, works in limited overs cricket. You've got to play smart, keep the scoreboard ticking, even if it's with singles and twos. But what do I know, I am just a disgruntled fan!

  • on November 1, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Nice going Nasir Jamshed, Misbah, Umar Amin and Umar Akmal. Hopes of keeping the series alive gone with the wind. What a shame!

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Where is Junaid Khan, why they are playing Wahab Riaz.:(

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    I challenge Misbah to give better only with attack on the opposite team by our batsman. Pakistan 1st ODI defeat due to bad batting by Afridi and Umer Akmal. I suggest misbah to Open with Afridi give him full responsibility and attack on the opposition with striking outside the circle.

  • mzm149 on November 1, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Bad News for Nasir Haters and Asad Lovers. Pakistan is going with unchanged team.

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    We are expecting a sensible batting from Afridi & Akmal which will through Pakistan to Win. Pakistan have to find another man with Misbah to end the Match

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Shahid Afridi, umar amin, umar akmal, Misba ul haq, sohail tanveer, wahab riaz sham for your batting. Street team good form you all. Misbah ul haq very poor approach captain in Pakistan. If I become a chairmen I fire all Pakistani team, current team no able to play Pakistan. They play our emotions. They above players given resign form team.

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    guys nasirs scores in odis and t20 since odi series in india:

    101, 106, 34, 13,25, 10, 10, 20, 20, 0, 50, 42, 2, 6, 54, 20, 22, 23, 27,6, 2, 23, 32, 38, 0

    he is out of form. his avg dropped from 45 to 37. i am not saying that he is the responsible or he is only responsible, but need some rest and some work on him by coaches.

  • GermanPlayer on November 1, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    Afridi searching for consistency? lol If a cricketer has not been consistent for the last 363 ODIs that he has played, how can he learn it now, especially after gifting away his wicket when his team needed him in the first game!

  • spellbinder76 on November 1, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    At least the coach is consistent. For him a player must fail three times before he is replaced. A man on the street knows about in-form or out-of-form batsmen. People will criticize Afridi but he is still the second highest scorer. Whatmore may be the best coach in the world but he sure has not been very lucky for Pakistan.

  • on November 1, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    What will it take to get it through the Pakistanis heads that neither tuk tuk, nor mindless hitting, works in limited overs cricket. You've got to play smart, keep the scoreboard ticking, even if it's with singles and twos. But what do I know, I am just a disgruntled fan!

  • on November 1, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Nice going Nasir Jamshed, Misbah, Umar Amin and Umar Akmal. Hopes of keeping the series alive gone with the wind. What a shame!

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Where is Junaid Khan, why they are playing Wahab Riaz.:(

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    I challenge Misbah to give better only with attack on the opposite team by our batsman. Pakistan 1st ODI defeat due to bad batting by Afridi and Umer Akmal. I suggest misbah to Open with Afridi give him full responsibility and attack on the opposition with striking outside the circle.

  • mzm149 on November 1, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Bad News for Nasir Haters and Asad Lovers. Pakistan is going with unchanged team.

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    We are expecting a sensible batting from Afridi & Akmal which will through Pakistan to Win. Pakistan have to find another man with Misbah to end the Match

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    Shahid Afridi, umar amin, umar akmal, Misba ul haq, sohail tanveer, wahab riaz sham for your batting. Street team good form you all. Misbah ul haq very poor approach captain in Pakistan. If I become a chairmen I fire all Pakistani team, current team no able to play Pakistan. They play our emotions. They above players given resign form team.

  • on November 1, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    guys nasirs scores in odis and t20 since odi series in india:

    101, 106, 34, 13,25, 10, 10, 20, 20, 0, 50, 42, 2, 6, 54, 20, 22, 23, 27,6, 2, 23, 32, 38, 0

    he is out of form. his avg dropped from 45 to 37. i am not saying that he is the responsible or he is only responsible, but need some rest and some work on him by coaches.

  • GermanPlayer on November 1, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    Afridi searching for consistency? lol If a cricketer has not been consistent for the last 363 ODIs that he has played, how can he learn it now, especially after gifting away his wicket when his team needed him in the first game!

  • on November 1, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    Both these sides should consider bringing in a pinch hitter to open. Neither have anything to lose as the openers have consistenly failed to set-up a platform for the middle order in recent times. Playing De Kok may be a good idea but kind of pointless if AB is going to keep. Besides Ingram is a far better batter than De Kok despite his recent failures in internationals. He has been sublime at provincila level this year.

  • on November 1, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    Wahhab riaz is total waste. Junaid khan is better than all the Pakistani fast bowlers. Junaid must be part of every one day game. A fridi must retire. Assad shafiq must be part of every one day and test match.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on November 1, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    @The_Ashes. In that case, you need to admire Indian bowlers who are getting wickets in those tough conditions. You cannot come up with silly arguments like that.

  • bplusa on November 1, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    I second the idea of bbnn to promote Afridi as opener. Give him a chance. Even a quick 25-30 runs inngs by him can create a huge difference in the out of the match considering the low scoring tracks.

  • mzm149 on November 1, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    @Masrur G. Syed: Sir how can you conclude that I have something against Asad Shafiq? I never directly targeted him in this forum. Asad is a good test player and his records speak. He has never been dropped from a single test since his debut. But ODI cricket is a different ball game altogether. He has failed to perform in ODI and his average of 27 and not a single century in 44 innings speak out loudly.

    You can't select a player in ODI due to his good performance in tests and you can't drop him from ODI due to his bad performance in tests. Asad was selected in South Africa ODI series earlier this year and he scored just 5 runs. He was given complete Ireland and Scotland series where he had just one good innings of 84. He scored a duck in first match of Champions Trophy yet he was selected again in third ODI. He scored 41 in a lost cause. Now apparently he was in good form and should have performed in West Indies tour. But scores of 0 and 10 are in front of you. PLEASE THINK RATIONALLY!

  • on November 1, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    My team for 2nd ODI. Hafeez Ahmed umer akmal maqsood safiq misbah a.fridi ajmal tanveer junaid irfan

  • Mohammad-Ali on November 1, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    Why on earth the Bastman like Asad Shafiq not been in playing XI? He is the most fine Middle order Batsman, better than Tuk Tuk and Umar Amin... and what happened to the selectors? They are giving chances to 32+ ODI Averages + 5.x Econ. than Junaid Khan who has the very good ODI Average of 23+ and fine Econ. of 4.7x. Really can't understand the selectors mind here or its still all about who have the BIG PARCHI ???

  • imranmujtaba on November 1, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Poor captaincy, short vision and Misbah selfesness is costing Pakistan...Umar Akmal is wasted at number 6/7.... Undoubtedly he is a best batsmen Pakistan has produced in last 5-10 years - why dont he gets chance in top 4? his talent is wasted at number 6 - Pak should develop him as inzi/yousuf replacement in middle order... no doubt is very capable but wasted by Misbah ---- he was scoring before Misbah became a captain.... he was better class then Kholi when they both came on scene, PCB and poor captaincy is continously destroying Umar talent ---- where BCCI and Inidan Captain has taken Kholi to the level where Kholi can be compare with inidan greats......

  • imranmujtaba on November 1, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    Misbah is a recipe of disaster - when he scores Pakistan Loses whether it was T20 WC final against India or match against SA...... Misbah should not be in ODI if he is then he should be playing at number 6/7 so if batting fail he can tuk tuk till end. Umar Akmal and Afridi should be playing at number 4/5 latest..... Umar Akmal is completely wasted by captain and team management - he could be replacement of Inzi or Yousuf but I dont understand why he doesn't get chance in top 4 .... every new player get chance before him .... very sad to see such a talent is wasted continously...... Poor captain and poor strategy is costing pakistan.

  • umerbaig on November 1, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    great example of inconsistency by pk team

  • nas74444 on November 1, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    Everyone keeps talking about how great Misbah has been this year, but no one mentions that Pakistan have only played crap teams this year. There should be an asterix next to his recent "form".

  • on November 1, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    @mzm149, brother, what do you have against Asad Shafiq? Someone just pointed out to you ( a day or two ago) that in seven test matches this year, Shafiq has two fifties and two centuries - all against the number one team!! He has failed in a few one day matches, but that has a lot to do with him being treated like a yo-yo; in in one match, out for two; in again for one or two, and then out, yet again for two or three. Four scores of fifty plus in seven matches doesn't seem enough for you, when it comes to Asad. You want Umar Akmal to permanently replace him, who is a treat to watch when on song, but most of the time he is like Afridi; i.e., tries to hit out unnecessarily, and gets out for cheap. How does that help our cause?

  • umerbaig on November 1, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    once again pk team ready to show embarrassment. All batsmen in pk team should be kicked out from team forever

  • on November 1, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    afridi and open. ....its joke. ...he can't play pace and bonce. ....its takes 5 ball to get vid of afridi. ....leg gally.....deep sweep ...don the trick. ....on him ....alk tbe time. ...he is finished. ...retried now ...is bater for him

  • on November 1, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    It took Sachin Tendulkar 70+ matches to score his first odi century in 1994 and since then he became a legend so my question is how do u determine who's a batsmen and who's a future star? I hope this comment of mine shows up on cricinfo...

  • bbnn on November 1, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    Sorry i mean ahmad shezsad in the opening slot not nasir

  • bbnn on November 1, 2013, 8:48 GMT

    If you can go with this batting order pak will be in winning track Nasir,Afridi,Asad Shafiq,Misba,Umar Akmal,Mohammed Hafeez,Amin/Shoib (i prefer abdul razzak) ,sohail thanveer,ajmal,irfan,junaid

  • bbnn on November 1, 2013, 8:42 GMT

    Why PAK team is not considering to give opening slot to Shahid Afridi? Let him hit out or miss out some times it may turn to a lottery but now you are wasting him in no. 7 and 8 , a low fultose will be enough for his wicket , but while opening he can score very freely

  • mzm149 on November 1, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @jaashky: I don't get it why asking Misbah or any one else to open is irrelevant? Can you please elaborate? Is Misbah technically sound to open? Doesn't he struggle against new ball?

    Nasir has 97 and 48 in two of four matches against Australia, two half centuries against West Indies. He was the second highest Pakistani scorer in Champions Trophy with scores of 50 and 46 out of three innings.

    How did he cost us the first match against India with a century? Weren'tHafeez, Azhar and Misbah about to destroy the game by scoring just 0, 9 and 16 respectively. At least he has some solid performances unlike Asad Shafiq, Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal, Umar Amin on his back even mainly against India, which as I showed is not true. He has good scores against South Africa, Australia and West Indies too.

    You yourself mentioned two groups of players which almost covered the entire team. Then why blame Nasir only? Why shouldn't we change the entire team.

  • on November 1, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    "Shahid Afridi's search for consistency will be crucial ..."

    What are you guys smoking? There are many things that he searches for, often the boundary with dazzling effect, but "consistency" is conspicuous only by its absence.

  • blthndr on November 1, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    "AB de Villiers has admitted that Pakistan's tail starts with Umar Akmal, and the hosts may consider replacing Akmal with Sarfraz Ahmed"...its just poor piece of writing without knowing of opposition team.....Yes he was out of team for a whlie so its just a matter of time to gain confidance...its not justifying for remark akmal as a tailender...i knw its not gonna publish...cricinfo i am just pointing this out...as a fan we are not expecting like this from cricinfo...

  • BustIPL on November 1, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    Pakistan team is like that, we have to take it that way. The are the asian champions and have beaten india in india where the Australians who have lot of indian domestic cricket experience are currently struggling to defend big totals.

  • jaashky on November 1, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    @mzm. Bro check the record of Nasir Jamshed with filter taking india out from the menu and you will see nothing but failure, agreed opening is not an easy job but he is an specialist for the job so he has to show off his skills or get lost, its simple as that. asking misbah to open or any one else is not relevant. Further, Nasir didn't performed since the last india series and if you remember even with his century he almost cost us the first match. the only problem is Pakistani team is now filled with either those who are trying to survive their place in international or trying to overtake captaincy from Misbah. The former includes shehzad jamshed amin akmal and the latter includes afrid and hafeez. I am 100% agreed with Baba Sehgal comments.

  • on November 1, 2013, 6:45 GMT

    i will not watch todays match, enough is enough

  • on November 1, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    Hope Oct 30 2013 repeats once again.

  • drnaveed on November 1, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    Pakistani side should be 1) ahmed shehzad 2) muhammad hafeez 3 ) asad shafiq 4 ) misbah uk haq 5 ) umar akmal (wk) 6 ) sohaib maqsood 7 ) umar ameen 8 ) shahid afridi 9 )saeed ajmal 10) muhammad irfan 11 ) junaid khan. 2 fast bowlers , plus umar ameen and the 3 spinners to fill the 30 overs lot . afridi batting at number 8.

  • on November 1, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    No way ..not another heartbreak .. I will rather pass watching cricket

  • on November 1, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    umar akmal should bat at no3 and pak should attack to the fast bowlers and tahir also ....rotating the strike is the best so go and attack sa .go green for win

  • Siva_Bala75 on November 1, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    The whole world knows Pakistan has a huge batting problem and it is only their world class bowling is mitigating the batting problem but still can not entirely hide it because the batting is so weak. There needs to be a clear plan as to how this will be resolved- My suggestion is to pick an all batsman XI (not even Hafeez or Afridi) and play some matches to find out who among the batsmen is their top 5 or 6 and persist with them. Like Chess, where you lose some pieces to get to a winning position, Pak may lose a few matches but can clearly identify their top batsmen for the long term. Otherwise this A vs B will remain as 'only talk'- and not performance based. For the last several years this forum is filled with comments that say pick this batsman or that batsman and drop this batsman. In the absence of a clear 'performance based' plan to clear this confusion, even after few years the same talk will be there- drop Amin, Misbah is tuk-tuk, Afridi is bad…etc., etc.

  • on November 1, 2013, 1:34 GMT

    It was heartbreaking to see pakistan fall apart in the 1st odi.our bowlers had done a womderfull job...and i am sure they will do the same in the next match..our batsman need to raise their game and score runs..i want misbah to promote umar akmal to 1 down...amd tell him to settle there..i am sure akmal will blossom ones he finds a secure and important position...lets try afridi as an opener and ask nasir jamshed and hafeez to find another job instead of cricket...

  • ozone8237 on November 1, 2013, 1:23 GMT

    BALL TAMPERING ISSUE has been heated up since the 2nd test of SAF vs Pak I was very disappointed by reading articles favoring to legalize Ball Tampering.

    There can be just one possible solution to it: to give the control of the shape of the ball in the hands of the bowling captain and still be Legal:

    * Right from the very first ball the fielding captain can ask the umpire to provide him with a ball that is brand new, 5-10 overs-used or 20-30 overs or 40-45 over-used the number of overs usage can be further discussed and the number of times the request can be made can also be discussed in order to better implement the rule.

    * ICC cannot give the authority to change the shape of the ball in terms of Ball Tampering, in the hands of the fielding side. I believe this might be a solution which could be discussed further and Implemented right away. I KNOW THESE ARE NOT THE CURRENT ARTICLE'S RELATED COMMENTS BUT I WANT TO USE THIS FORUM ALSO TO SPREAD THE WORD AS WELL PLZ PRINT. THANKS

  • on November 1, 2013, 1:05 GMT

    let's just hope the approach to the game remains positive as far as the Pakistan Cricket Team is concerned. There's been a history of fights within the team after such losses. So if they play like a unit, fans have nothing to worry about but if everyone is in danger of his place in the team that pressure will lead to anarchy. It wasn't about afridi or anyone, it was the approach to the match at the crunch moments that led to defeat, everyone going for the glory and fame so as to confirm a place in the team. They have to change that approach and play like a Team altogether. Batters got a start bowling clicked but pressure of place took over most of them.

  • on November 1, 2013, 1:01 GMT

    How many of you saw afridi needs only 19 wickets to go past brett lee and macGrath .....shaid afridi.......

  • Haider-pak-awsome on November 1, 2013, 0:27 GMT

    1st odi was an accident for Pak and SA got away with that. It is not going to repeat for sure. Agreed it was irresponsible batting by Pak. Those who are blaming Misbah and Jamshed should know that our batting will be even more fragile without Misbah in the middle and Jamshed in opening. Inshallah, Good luck for the 2nd odi

  • on November 1, 2013, 0:01 GMT

    Pakistan will win this match and level the series......Mark my words!

  • 2nd_Slip on October 31, 2013, 23:59 GMT

    Plz drop Faf and play Ingram in the middle order and get De Kock to open. I am seriously getting annoyed with Faf being selected because of his once off test performance and feel Elgar,Ingarm and Rilee Rusouw should be given the chance to fight for his spot.

  • Chaudry_Cricket on October 31, 2013, 23:19 GMT

    What an absurd claim by A.B that the tail starts with Umar Akmal who averages 38with a strike rate of 80+ same as J.P.Duminy, Better that Ingram, Faf, Miller so how can A.B make such a absurd statement. Besides Umar is always batting at 6 though he should bat at 4 and is always in and out the side and still he maintains a good average for someone batting at 6 with a healthy strike rate.

    Anyways what Pak (think tank) needs to do right is make sure everyone is batting at the right positions such as;

    Jamshed, Shehzad, Amin, Akmal, Misbah, Maqsood, Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal, Junaid, Irfan ... This is the best 11. This way we bat till 8 and we will only need 2 seamers.

    Our strategy should be to attack in the first 10 overs and from the 11th over look to run singles and regulary find the boundaries and then go all out in the last 10 overs and please run at least 4 singles an over to achieve a target of around 270 - 280 and our bowlers are capable of defending that.

  • boomboomafridi786 on October 31, 2013, 23:07 GMT

    Yep this is what happens when a woman writes a cricket article...lol why would Pakistan pick Sarfraz Ahmed over Umar Akmal? That is some salty analysis. Umar Akmal averages 39 and by no means a bad wicketkeeper.

  • Fogu on October 31, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    Among all this batting woes, we are forgetting how good the bowling units are for SA and PK. Along with Eng, they are the top three bowling units in the world. I admire good bowling over run-a-thon on dead pitches.

  • TexanBlue on October 31, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    Pak had the best chance in Sharjah to bring RSA under pressure right from the 1st game but an obvious in-fighting and politics isn't allowing Pak to register series wins. In Zimbabwe they won the 1st test only to square the series in the 2nd and same happened against RSA in the UAE. They just can't seem to hold the momentum. The likes and dislikes of Misbah, Afridi, and Hafeez is badly hurting the team. With no culture of accountability in Pak, the selectors and management always find an escape route. They can never justify the continued exclusion of Razzaq from the limited overs teams. What Pak is missing the most is a finisher, both in batting & bowling. They need someone who can see the team through in a chase and finish the tail quickly. They need an express bowler who can finish off the innings quickly. No one in the 1st ODI took the responsibility to get the team home, not even Afridi after playing more than 350 plus games. Kick out the irresponsible players and bring back Razzaq

  • on October 31, 2013, 21:13 GMT

    My XI : Ahmed Shehzad , Shoaib Maqsood ,Mohammed Hafeez , Umar Akmal , Misbah Ul Haq , Asad Shafiq , Shahid Afridi , Saeed Ajmal , Wahab Riaz/Sohail Tanvir/Abdur Rehman , Mohammed Irfan .

    Shoaib Maqsood should open the batting he is aggressive player could be very good in powerplay . Umar akmal should bat up the order give him a chance he is aggressive player( very talented) .....

  • on October 31, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    can't play spin. .can't play pace and bonce. ..can't play swing. ..join Pakistan cricket team. ......is this the criteria for playing for Pakistan. ....rubbish team. ......afridi. ..hafiz. .jamshed....shzada. ...amin....and akmal. ...full time ....acting. ...and show off. ....find full new squad. ..new young team

  • on October 31, 2013, 20:59 GMT

    ilililililililililix,

    Right on. Your lineup makes the most sense. I would make few changes to that. 1. Shehzad 2. Jamshed 3. Misbah/Umar Akmal(Prefer to give Umar the responsibility) 4. Misbah/Umar Akmal 5. Sohaib Maqsood(very talented) 6. Umar Amin/Hafeez/Afridi(Play 2 of these) 7. Umar Amin/Hafeez/Afridi(Play 2 of these) 8. Saeed Ajmal 9. Wahab Riaz/Sohail Tanvir(Who picked these jokers to be in int'l side) 10.Junaid Khan(best fast bowler in Pak side - how was he dropped) 11. Irfan.

  • on October 31, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    I dont understand when Afridi had almost 10 overs to score 18 runs or so why does he decides to finish the game in one over. No doubt he is talented but what happens to his maturity. I fail to understand what makes him go crazy to finish the game in over when there is no batsman left. Grow up up please. Pakistan seriously miss allrounder Razzaq who use to win matches in that position. Lack of maturity translated by a senior player.

  • Baba_Sehgal on October 31, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    When Afridi was captain, everything was the management's fault. And now that Misbah is captain, everything is Misbah's fault. Pakistani fans need to wake up and realize that Pakistan's line up is full of untalented jokers. If they can't chase 16 runs on 44 balls with 6 wickets in hand, then they should go back to playing street cricket.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on October 31, 2013, 20:37 GMT

    @Stark62 Agree with you mate Misbah is not a good captain but as a player he can play Hafeez is better batsman than Misbah no doubt but again we need some new strategy that will do, when you score 12 runs in 1st 10 overs of power play you deserve to loose.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on October 31, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    I think DeVilliars and South Africa should be careful what they call tail can cost them match or even series, they don't know the potential of Umar Akmal and Afridi less with the bat but in UAE where bowl is turning he can restrict South Africa to 183 by taking key wickets like Miller and McLearn. Pattern shows Pakistan will win the next match and they mostly lose 1st match of the series, hopefully this will be a nail bitter like 1st ODI.

  • mzm149 on October 31, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    Sometimes I feel pity for Nasir Jamshed. Our media and most of our public are always against him for reasons only known to them. I don't say he is Virat Kohli. But he is not the worst of entire Pakistani batting lineup.

    He has better average than Asad Shafiq, Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Amin, Mohammad Hafeez, Shoaib Malik, Kamran Akmal, Shahid Afridi and Younus Khan. He has more centuries than Umar Akmal, Azhar Ali and Misbah ul Haq.

    Our team lost this match because of Umar Akmal, Umar Amin and Shahid Afridi who threw their wickets at wrong time. OPENING IS NOT AN EASY POSITION TO BAT. ASK ANY OF THE OTHER PAKISTANI BATSMAN, EVEN MISBAH, TO OPEN IN HIS PLACE AND SEE THE RESULTS.

    Give the poor guy this entire series and if he doesn't score at least one fifty drop him for a prolonged time. BECOMING MAN OF THE SERIES AND SCORING TWO CENTURIES AGAINST FULL STRENGTH INDIAN TEAM IN INDIA IS NOT A FLUKE.

  • ilililililililililililililx on October 31, 2013, 20:20 GMT

    My Pakistan XI:

    Ahmed Shehzad, Mohammad Hafeez, Misbah, Umar Amin, Shoaib Maqsood, Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal, Sohail Tanvir, Junaid Khan, Mohammad Irfan

    Jamshed is in such bad form that he needs a rest and we cant go with a make-shift opener so Hafeez is opening. Junaid is better then Riaz and we need to give new youngsters a chance up the order instead of wasting them at 7 or 8. I personally would have Harris Sohail and Zulfiqar in but they are not in the squad.

  • ilililililililililililililx on October 31, 2013, 20:11 GMT

    how can AB say the tail starts with Umar Akmal. He averages 39, more than everyone else in the team excluding Misbah. We need to not waste the 10 over powerplay upfront and our openers need show aggression and have some intent instead of tuk tuking when they will eventually get out doing it.

  • on October 31, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    Pakistanis are not world class cricketers but bunch of jokers. who know nothing but hit the ball here and there.

  • samincolumbia on October 31, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    Pretty funny headline considering that one team has no clue how to play spin and the other team manages to shoot themselves in the foot at the sight of Imran Tahir steaming in!

  • SHER-A-PANJAB on October 31, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    I dnt think SA can put good total on the board ,means 275 + because AB ,SMITH ,FAF are out of touch and SA middle lower order is like a tail .So SA have to depend on their fast attack as usually they do . And PAK can do anything because IN ASIA They always hold the match in their pocket and finally ......??????? lets see....good luck

  • ICKY on October 31, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    The current woes of Pak cricket is not due to batting failure or bring in this and drop that. It is the mindset, the defensive rather loser's approach of Captain who dictates the whole team, not to play their natural game. Pakistan needs to make team for 2015 WC and its quite obthey have no chance of making even the last eight with Misbah as a Captain. Please make a new captain keeping in mind the 2015 WC and the team selection as well.

  • Shazy777 on October 31, 2013, 19:31 GMT

    my playing xi Graeme Smith, 2 Quinton de Kock, 3 JP Duminy, 4 Faf du Plessis, 5 AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren, 8 Wayne Parnell, 9 Morne Morkel, 10 Lonwabo Tsotsobe, 11 Imran Tahir

  • Raja_naveed_khan on October 31, 2013, 19:21 GMT

    Drop Nasir Jamshed and wahab Riaz, Bring in Asad Shafiq and Sohaib Maqsood to strengthen batting, My Playing eleven, Hafiiz,Shehzad,Asad shafiq,Misbah,sohaib maqsood,Umer Akmal,umer Amin,shahid Afridi,Saeed Ajmal,Irfan and junaid, a team which can,t play full 50 overs should not drop talent like Shafiq by excusing strike rate

  • on October 31, 2013, 19:21 GMT

    Total disgrace - if these want any respect from their fans and the opposition team the following XI should play.

    1. Hafeez 2. Shehzad 3.Misbah 4.Umar Akmal 5. Umar Amin 6.Asad Shafiq 7. Lala 8.Ajmal 9. Junaid 10. Irfan 11.Tanvir

  • mzm149 on October 31, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    Rash shots of Umar Akmal, Umar Amin and Afridi cost us the first game.

    I would recommend we should give the playing XI, selected in first game, a chance to play entire series unless there is an injury or someone commits a big blunder. This is the right approach. We should learn from Australia, South Africa and England. They do the same. They give full chances to their players. If they perform well they are retained but if they fail in the entire series, they are kicked out for a long time unless they show improvement. Giving one game here and one game there neither develops a player nor we get to know the strengths and weaknesses of a player.

  • Stark62 on October 31, 2013, 19:19 GMT

    @ CrazyforcricketIII We can't win because Hafeez is wasting the spot at no. 3, Misbah after 129 ODI's hasn't hit a century because of his approach, Amin is rubbish but being backed by the pcb and lastly, Misbah's tuk tuk style has infected our once aggressive openers.

    Also, he doesn't want to promote our best ODI batsman Umar up to no. 3 or 4, plus doesn't give a chance to the super talented Maqsood.

  • ICKY on October 31, 2013, 19:16 GMT

    Its not only Nasir Jamshed who is victim of Misbah's loser (defensive) mindset, its the entire batting line-up. The only solution is to get rid of Misbah from ODI team and make an aggressive Captain. Misbah is not going to survive the 2015 WC anyway. just a thought, can he face aggressive teams like Australia, India, New Zealand, BD, Afghanistan, WI, Ireland with his so called defensive approach.

  • on October 31, 2013, 19:15 GMT

    @xylofon: Agreed with you completely, the main fault is all of PCB. It is them who selected the teams, on no merit what so ever. Don't understand what Jamsehd, Wahab, Tanvir did to be recalled. There many players in domestic who have been constantly performing, but get no recognition. Bowler's who are breaking their back on flat pitches and being remarkable, along with the batsman who are fighting it out. For me the only players Pakistan should keep for the future from this current lot are: Misbah-ul-Haq, Mohammad Irfan, Juanid Khan, and Saeed Ajmal. We can include Umar Akmal and Ahmed Shahzad only if they are responsible and understand the situation. U.akmal has potential to be the greatest, but just doesn't have the application. For me this should be our team for the future: Sharjeel Khan, Ahmed Shahzad, Umar Akmal, Shoaib Maqsood, Mohammad Rizwan, Misbah-ul-haq, Hammad Azam (best young possible all-rounder available), Saeed Ajmal, Junaid Khan, Mohammad Irfan, Sadaf Hussain.

  • on October 31, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    I think afridi should open again as Pakistan has to bring some aggression in there batting in the top order

  • CrazyforcricketIII on October 31, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    If other sub continent teams can perform extra ordinarily- what's wrong with Pakistan. Bangladesh winning series against NZ, India chasing 350+ twice against Aussies and we cannot score two runs to win- It's pathetic and Coach and players should take the blame!!

  • GermanPlayer on October 31, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    Afridi, who despite playing a mammoth 363 ODIs does not have the sense how to play with the tail, should be held responsible. Granted that Afridi plays as a bowler but that does not give him the right to be irresponsible. Tsotsobe is not a batsmen and he plays just as a bowler. Yet he was able to thwart the Pakistani attack for so long. Akmal and Afridi should learn from him. And those bashing Misbah should at least present an alternative when talking about leaving him out. No one is realising the importance of holding up one end, irrespective of the strike rate.

  • on October 31, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    I would rather drop faf and push ingram in middle order. Ingram is no good on top but he may do in middle order. Some months ago kallis told domingo that he want to play next WC, why he is not playing now then?!

  • on October 31, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    Pick Parnell as a batsman to replace Faf or Ingram and slot in Big Vern just to make the attack even meaner. Otherwise add Peterson instead of Philander. I know that Ingram will stay in, I hope he proves me wrong by batting like he has done for the Warriors, just like Parnell did in the first match.

  • t20cric on October 31, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    Nasir Jamshed hasn't had a good year with the bat (India tour was last year). Nasir will need to play freely not try to become a tuk-tuk. He needs to average 50+ this series to justify his selection. If he cant do it then why not try Sharjeel Khan instead. His list A average is 52.81 and his strike rate is an amazing 109.86. This means he scores as fast as Afridi does in ODIs but he is consistent as well. Sharjeel, like Nasir is also a left hander so bowlers may struggle against him and Sharjeel is only about a few months older. Sharjeel and Shehzad can be a dangerous opening combination for any team.

  • t20cric on October 31, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    The changes suggested are bad and are a sure way for failure. How is Akmal a tail end batsman. I don't think even the best batting teams have ever had a tail end batsman with 1st class average of almost 50 and ODI average of almost 40. And Akmal is a far better bat then Sarfraz. What Pak need to do is get rid of the weakest link in the team: Wahab. He cant bat, cant field, cant bowl he only bowls fast regularly but with no control. Amin I beleive should maybe play the rest of this series then a true judgement about him can be made. Maqsood needs to brought in cuz in the domestic level he scores consistently and he scores fast (sometimes he even bowls). Amin should bowl as well. Pak also need to bring in Junaid instead of Tanvir. Lastly Pak need to make sure AKmal doesnt bat with Afridi cuz it causes Akmal to do crazy shots. 1.Nasir Jamshed,2.Ahmed Shehzad,3.Umar Akmal,4.Misbah-ul-haq,5.Umar Amin,6.Sohaib Maqsood,7.Mohammad Hafeez,8.Shahid Afridi,9.Saeed Ajmal,10.Junaid Khan,11.M.Irfan

  • Mariakutty on October 31, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    If Pakistan had a thinking cricketer the match would've been theirs. I always believe, ' even if Afridi scores 3 centuries in a row he must be dropped'. A player who must've by now been a LEGEND is still fighting for a place. Afridi's and U Akmal's irresponsible approach cannot be excused. They played as if Pakistan required 50 from 2 overs. Even if they had waited for wides and extras they could've won. Sympathy towards the blind followers of Afridi. Waiting for the innings which occurs once in a blue moon.

  • Dark.Matter on October 31, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    Usually, after losing in such a way, a team plays next games with a feel of extra pressure. So, I think Pakistan are going to lose all remaining games, and they might be able to win just one last t20. That would be because it will be very hard for them to forget that 17/6 debacle.

  • dkboss62 on October 31, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    the best 15 Pak player in current time 1.N.Jamsed 2.K.Akmal(Wk) 3.Y.Khan 4.U.Akmal 5.S.Afridi(c) 6.M.Hafij 7.(New telented player) 8.A.Rajjak 9.U.Gul 10.S.Ajmal 11.M.Irfan 12.J.Khan 13.A.Rehman 14.A.Shehzad 15.(New telented player)

  • xylofon on October 31, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    Where is Babar Azam. PCB might consider shuffling him into the A side earlier than what they were planning? HE can make the batting difference, I see him as the best pakistani batsman today.

    Maybe Fawad Alam should be given the chance, at least test & odi format, definately test format.

    All the comments and analysis regarding Pakistan are correct but nothing can happen until people start realising that PCB is to be blamed for most of Pakistans woes. When we have intelligent and competent people in PCB, most issues will go away naturally.

  • Pranarnia on October 31, 2013, 18:05 GMT

    10 runs, 4 wkts many balls in hand.. guys please use some common sense. at the international level this is nt a tolerable... v in gully cricket use some sense in this siituation..

  • dkboss62 on October 31, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    Pak Selector why play Misbah is ODI. He can not play next world cup because it's current age is 39.

  • on October 31, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    just give umar akmal the confidence to bat up the order and pakistan will be in a better position. he is not a player who comes to play only 30 balls ir last 10 15 overs. he deserves more than that. I like the combination but if there are any changes it should be junaid in for riaz

  • on October 31, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    hope so next match we win and comeback strong. INSHALLAH

  • Fineline on October 31, 2013, 17:49 GMT

    Umar akmal was never a tail end batsmen and never will be.Pakistan should just make 2 changes.Bring asad for jamshed and junaid for riaz.

  • The_Ashes on October 31, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Indian Cricket team basically play on roads in ODIs. It may bring in runs and make your batsman look like superstar and boost their run charts but when they play on wickets that are sporting then they are simply exposed. That SA-Pak was the far more exciting as it was a good contest between bat and ball. Thrills are far more exciting than chasing big runs. I'm sure most were expecting Pak to cruise that 1st ODI.

  • jb633 on October 31, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    I can't see a Pakistani comeback after the travesty of that first game.

  • NixNixon on October 31, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    Best batsmen currently inworld cricket, micheal clarke, Amla and Kholi

  • on October 31, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    Pak needs more batsman than bowlers in the playing 11 dint know why 6 bowlers are playing common thir weekness is there batting .Haffez is pkaying at open and at no 3 for 4 years and hav score around 4 century .so this shows he is no longer a batsman at this pisition .why not try SHIIB MAKSOOD at no 3 or Umer Akmal becoz they can play fast bowlers easily unlike many other pak batsman and why not try SAMI ASLAM and TALAT HUSSAIN in these batting condition so they can score some runs against quality teams. Wahab and sohil tanvir are the culprit theyshoul stop playig ccricket. Pak needs Abdul Razzak as a allrounder .plz use ur brains selectors play 2 fast bowlers juned and irfan 1 spinner Ajmal 2 Allrounder Aridi and Haffez and 6 Batsman no6 Amin no 5 Maksood no 4 misba ni 3 Umer akmal no 2 Ahmed Shazad and no 1 Jamshed.pak dont need wahab and Tanvir ..After the series Opners sould replace and try with Sami Aslam and Talat hussain And allrounder Haffwz and Afridi with Razzak and Hammed

  • Karthik78 on October 31, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    Afridi is very very over hyped player who knows only to hit the ball hard and yes he developed bowling, but no use for strong pakistan bowling.

  • Munafis810 on October 31, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    Both teams have good bowling ( no great mind it) but there is difference.SA batting fails once in 5 times and Pakistan batting fails 4 out of 5 times.

  • NixNixon on October 31, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    for those of you how are hoping to see the end of faf, I believe that with a full strength team there is anyways no place for faf. Miller took fafs place. top six Smith, Amla, De Kock, De Villiers, Duminy, Miller. no place for faf. De Kock is gonna be a big star for sa and I dont see faf keeping de kock out, faf sure as hell not gonna replace any of the other batsmen. tatta faf

  • NixNixon on October 31, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    AB DE VILLLIERS DOESNT IMPRESS ME:

    As a Saffa I must say he doesnt impress me, I have a theory on his batting and I will share it with you.

    For me having a high average like he does is not all that I look at, I look at a batsmen's consistency within that average. Let me explain. Lets say two players player A and B have played 4 games. Both average exactly 100. Player A scores are 100, 100, 100 and 100. Player B scores are 200, 0,0,200. With no not outs, both average 100. 400 / 4 =100 avrg. So here is my problem with AB he is player B. When he scores, he scores big, BUT he scores very inconsistent. Player A's score could potentially help you win all 4 matches as opposed to player B where he only helped in two games. My point is look at the way AB plays, he plays like someone who puts no value on his wicket. Even someone like Miller who has only played 30 games, has a better temperament than AB. I hate the fact that AB cant play according to what the circumstances of the game demand

  • gsingh7 on October 31, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    it was a match between the two to see who will choke more . sa bowled out for 183 shows they were winning that contest when pakistan's batsmen put their hands up and bowled out for 182. we can securely say pak chocked just a tad bit more than sa. even in ct2013, i guess both these teams won 1 match between them in the whole series. no doubt they will call their bowlers world class when either batting lineup cud not score even 200 runs in an odi.

  • blthndr on October 31, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    umar akmal has the second highest avg in this team having avg of 38+ behind misbah and barring this two only nasir jamshed has 35+ avg ....so its important to use akmal sensibly....

  • greenluv on October 31, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    our skipper An ultimate smart Boy Should not let them eat the whole day and let them fight with lil bit of thirst next time. they are ridiculously lazy enough to even loose some weight look at jamshed he is so focused on not loosing the spot in team that he cant even see him self growing like a potato. Brother let lose your self a bit and believe in your self as we know that your talent can be destructive enough for these games.

  • on October 31, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    I don't understand what Nasir Jamshed and Ahmed Shahzad were waiting for, yes he scroed a half-centruty, but it looked terrible. Most importantly throwing it away when you are set, no sense of finishing the game on your shoulder. Chasing a small total , you have to be aggressive and take the match away right at the beginning. Jamshed, just doesn't look like the same player in India, he does not know where his runs are coming from. Please Misbah and Hafeez promote yourself down the order, and play U.Akmal and U.Amin at 3&4 position. Maybe induce Shoaib Maqsood instead of crappy Wahab Riaz, and Juanid Khan for Sohail Tanivr, who was supposedly the all-rounder, but did nothing with the bat when the team needed him. All in all, a lucky escape for SA in this game, they were thoroughly dominated, but Pakistan just could not finish them off. Expecting a better contest tomorrow.

  • immi2711 on October 31, 2013, 15:33 GMT

    Oh man...the 1st ODI was enough for me to hate Pak team for years to come. Who ever you want to blame, bottom line is Nasir, Amin, have lost there confidence. You play almost 3 overs in odi and score "ZERO" are you kidding me. Whose son is he? Another thing, In this day and age, in professional cricket, if your last bat cannot score 10 runs, then you should be dropped, just as a bowler you are not good enough...Why the hell Wahab is in the team? There are so many questions in the team.... Both Akmal and Afridi, need to be moved to 3rd and 4th. to ramp up the scoring. I would even consider them opening....

  • on October 31, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Its not frist time happening with pakistsni team afridi should play like senior but he did not take any resposibility afridi is most senior all credit should give afridi beause he is not thinking about his country l must say pakistani team is unpredictable

  • Zahidsaltin on October 31, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Stupidity is a nick name for Pakistan cricket so expect them to drop Umar Akmal who is only batsman other than Misbah who has been consistant to some extant and has the highest batting average among all. Umar Amin is another Farhat as he has now played a handsom number of international matches but hasn't played a single meaningful innings. I would drop Jamshed and Umar Amin to accomodate Asad Shafiq and Maqsood. Let Hafeez open with Shehzad and ask Asad Shafiq to come at one down. A big laugh at those who consider Sohail Tanveer an allrounder, I would rather have Saeed Ajmal come before Sohail.

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:49 GMT

    let umar akmal play at no.3 and see the difference (y)

  • ballonbat on October 31, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    Faf has now been given more than enough rope to hang himself with and that's what he has done. It leaves a bad taste that he is still in the team, because he has a close friendship with AB. The last thing the Proteas need is any hint of another boys' club in the team. The selectors must be ruthless. He's had his run and proved himself not up to the task. He might be an electric fielder but he doesn't bowl and he has a batting average under 30. No team can afford that kind of baggage. And I don't agree with you, Firdose. SA has a plethora of talented middle order batsmen waiting to take that spot: Rossouw, Behardien, Vaughan van Jaarsveld, Ontong, Stiaan van Zyl and Vilas to name a handful. In the meantime, if Amla returns, slot him in and drop Ingram down the order. Otherwise put De Kock in and shunt Faf out. You could even replace him with Peterson or Philander, given his poor form with the bat. Then at least there'd be an added bowling option.

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    no way they can get in sarfraz for umar. and the logic given in article, that tail is up from umar then sarfraz is also a tailender in batting. umar did a good job in keeping.

    instead of asad, i think they should give chance to maqsood in place of umar amin.

    nasir jamshed's time is runbing out fast. no significant innings after india tour. may be they are reluctant to replace him but soon the call will be made. they can go with asad as opener.

    i think masood should come in. and pakistan need a batting medium pace all rounder. sohail is no way near a no8 and also wahab. if both are batting like this then they shoild bring in junaid for wahab.

    they played imran tahir well yesterday. last wickets in last half hour was a period of madness and any 1 could have taken wickets. even lanwabo got 2 wickets on wider balls and not so much threat was present in bowlling.

    that defeat will surely play in minds of pak. and boost SA

  • TommytuckerSaffa on October 31, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    How many more chances does Ingram get? When is De Kock going to get his turn to open and take on the keeping duties?

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    Dont get why junaid khan is not playing..he has been the best pace bowler for pak in the past couple of years and yet they chose wahab or riaz in place of him,confusing selection from misbah !

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    For the unpredictability argument to hold true, there should be a cracking performancee from Pakistan in tomorrow's game. Not sure, how ready they are after a demoralizing lost yesterday, after dominating 90+ overs, and giving it away in last half hour.

  • Resultpredictor on October 31, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Stats alert: Pakistan is the only team among the top 8 teams which have not won bilateral ODI series against SA. And this record will be maintained for couple more years as SA will win this series for sure. This is the real dominance of SA over Pakistan.

  • 96NotOut on October 31, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    Number 1: Replacing U Akmal with Sarfraz Ahmed would be the utmost stupidity. We DON'T need him. Umar's doing great in the keeping department, and he is by far a better batsman than Sarfraz, so I believe that Misbah won't allow it. Number 2: Are we really going to go in with Wahab Riaz? He is probably one of Pakistan's biggest problems. He can't bowl, he can't field, he's only there cuz he can score runs, which makes no sense... What are the batsmen supposed to be there for? Junaid deserved to be in the 1st ODI, because in my eyes, Vicky made all the difference. Bad bowling, bad batting and pathetic fielding.

  • MianMoosa on October 31, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    to loose form zimbabwe in test match, then rolling over World no 1 test side in 4 days & then getting out on 99 & loose by an innins, then restricting Proteas to 184, making comfortable themselves when they were 165/4 in chasing & then in last loosing 6 wickets for only 17 runs, this could only be Pakistan, it has to be Pakistan, the more their bowlers try to win them matches, even more their batsman try to spoil the party, i have seen a lot of collapses in last 12 years since i watching cricket with full flow, but last night it was worst i have ever seen,,that was just out of imagination,,,for tomorrow match i will include another batsman (sohaib maqsood ) in place of wahab riaz,,they don,t 6 genuine bowlers,,hafeez,afridi,ajmal,irfan & tanvir are good enogh,,even umar amin can roll his arm for couple of overs,,,replacing umar akmal with sarfraz ahmad mean more weaker batting line up,,we have to stick with our youngsters,, we have to keep faith in them,thats the only way,,Best of luck

  • kahvas on October 31, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    Well 6 wickets for 17 runs, can only be the fault of the batting lineup. I mean SA might have a good attack, but we have seen Pakistani batting crumbling like this too often. Remember, the last match in 3 match ODI series in India. Pakistan was sailing and all of a sudden they threw their wickets. They can surprise next time though

  • Romanticstud on October 31, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    South Africa have the two lowest totals for teams winning by 1 run. Hopefully The teams put their thinking caps on and give us a run fest tomorrow ... Pakistan are now wearing the C necklace. Hopefully they can put the first game behind them and make a better effort. South Africa also need to improve as Pakistan have a history of unpredictability in their ranks and can give South Africa a wake up call like the T20 matches they have won in the T20 World Cup. Shahid Afridi is their man ... But then we have JP ...

  • 71-50ODIs12-9Tests on October 31, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Pakistan is going to win that one, mark my words :)

  • MrGarreth on October 31, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Batting shouldn't be a problem for the SA lineup. It's ridiculous that it is. Most of that lineup in the first game are quality and should have performed. For Smith, Duminy, de Villiers and Miller all to miss out is rare. Sure we could fill a few holes and Faf must be pretty close to his last chance, but overall that lineup should not be bundled out for anything under 200 on any surface. Mightily impressed with the bowling lineup that is starting to take shape. SA are broadening their options with some canny bowlers with different skill sets. I'd put de Kock simply because he can't do any worse than one of Ingram or du Plessis and he can take the gloves from AB and allow him be more proactive in the field as well as adding an extremely gifted fielder to the inner ring.

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  • MrGarreth on October 31, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Batting shouldn't be a problem for the SA lineup. It's ridiculous that it is. Most of that lineup in the first game are quality and should have performed. For Smith, Duminy, de Villiers and Miller all to miss out is rare. Sure we could fill a few holes and Faf must be pretty close to his last chance, but overall that lineup should not be bundled out for anything under 200 on any surface. Mightily impressed with the bowling lineup that is starting to take shape. SA are broadening their options with some canny bowlers with different skill sets. I'd put de Kock simply because he can't do any worse than one of Ingram or du Plessis and he can take the gloves from AB and allow him be more proactive in the field as well as adding an extremely gifted fielder to the inner ring.

  • 71-50ODIs12-9Tests on October 31, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Pakistan is going to win that one, mark my words :)

  • Romanticstud on October 31, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    South Africa have the two lowest totals for teams winning by 1 run. Hopefully The teams put their thinking caps on and give us a run fest tomorrow ... Pakistan are now wearing the C necklace. Hopefully they can put the first game behind them and make a better effort. South Africa also need to improve as Pakistan have a history of unpredictability in their ranks and can give South Africa a wake up call like the T20 matches they have won in the T20 World Cup. Shahid Afridi is their man ... But then we have JP ...

  • kahvas on October 31, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    Well 6 wickets for 17 runs, can only be the fault of the batting lineup. I mean SA might have a good attack, but we have seen Pakistani batting crumbling like this too often. Remember, the last match in 3 match ODI series in India. Pakistan was sailing and all of a sudden they threw their wickets. They can surprise next time though

  • MianMoosa on October 31, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    to loose form zimbabwe in test match, then rolling over World no 1 test side in 4 days & then getting out on 99 & loose by an innins, then restricting Proteas to 184, making comfortable themselves when they were 165/4 in chasing & then in last loosing 6 wickets for only 17 runs, this could only be Pakistan, it has to be Pakistan, the more their bowlers try to win them matches, even more their batsman try to spoil the party, i have seen a lot of collapses in last 12 years since i watching cricket with full flow, but last night it was worst i have ever seen,,that was just out of imagination,,,for tomorrow match i will include another batsman (sohaib maqsood ) in place of wahab riaz,,they don,t 6 genuine bowlers,,hafeez,afridi,ajmal,irfan & tanvir are good enogh,,even umar amin can roll his arm for couple of overs,,,replacing umar akmal with sarfraz ahmad mean more weaker batting line up,,we have to stick with our youngsters,, we have to keep faith in them,thats the only way,,Best of luck

  • 96NotOut on October 31, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    Number 1: Replacing U Akmal with Sarfraz Ahmed would be the utmost stupidity. We DON'T need him. Umar's doing great in the keeping department, and he is by far a better batsman than Sarfraz, so I believe that Misbah won't allow it. Number 2: Are we really going to go in with Wahab Riaz? He is probably one of Pakistan's biggest problems. He can't bowl, he can't field, he's only there cuz he can score runs, which makes no sense... What are the batsmen supposed to be there for? Junaid deserved to be in the 1st ODI, because in my eyes, Vicky made all the difference. Bad bowling, bad batting and pathetic fielding.

  • Resultpredictor on October 31, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Stats alert: Pakistan is the only team among the top 8 teams which have not won bilateral ODI series against SA. And this record will be maintained for couple more years as SA will win this series for sure. This is the real dominance of SA over Pakistan.

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    For the unpredictability argument to hold true, there should be a cracking performancee from Pakistan in tomorrow's game. Not sure, how ready they are after a demoralizing lost yesterday, after dominating 90+ overs, and giving it away in last half hour.

  • on October 31, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    Dont get why junaid khan is not playing..he has been the best pace bowler for pak in the past couple of years and yet they chose wahab or riaz in place of him,confusing selection from misbah !

  • TommytuckerSaffa on October 31, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    How many more chances does Ingram get? When is De Kock going to get his turn to open and take on the keeping duties?