Pakistan v South Africa, 3rd ODI, Abu Dhabi

South Africa go 2-1 up with easy win

The Report by Firdose Moonda

November 6, 2013

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South Africa 259 for 8 (Duminy 64, Irfan 3-46) beat Pakistan 191 (Tahir 4-53) by 68 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Faf du Plessis anchored the innings with a half-century, Pakistan v South Africa, 3rd ODI, Abu Dhabi, November 6, 2013
Faf du Plessis steadied South Africa with a half-century from No. 3 © AFP

South Africa's batting improved to match their bowling effort and with both departments at a similar standard, took a 2-1 lead in the five-match series. Half-centuries from Faf du Plessis and JP Duminy helped South Africa post their first total over 250 in 11 innings before another impressive effort from their attack made sure Pakistan were just about out of the match before the batting Powerplay of their innings was over.

The last time Pakistan successfully chased a total of over 250 was more than two years and nine months ago, when they beat New Zealand in Napier. After the start Ahmed Shehzad and Mohammad Hafeez gave, it seemed that could change in Abu Dhabi. They posted 50 in 47 balls with 80% of the runs coming in boundaries but between them and Wahab Riaz and Sohail Tanvir's blitz, there was little else from a line-up which is prone to collapses.

South Africa had both their big names players back in the XI with Hashim Amla slotting in at the top of the order and Dale Steyn included as well. Amla made little difference, bowled for 10 by Mohammad Irfan, but Steyn struck the blow that turned the match.

After Shehzad and Hafeez got on top of South Africa, with Morne Morkel and Lonwabo Tsotsobe struggling to hit the right lengths in their opening spell, Steyn made the decisive inroad. His first delivery was short and angling away. Shehzad prodded and was caught behind and Pakistan's momentum was abruptly halted.

Shehzad had played with freedom to that point, driving, pulling and cutting to leave the new ball bowlers looking out of sorts. Once he was gone, South Africa asserted their authority, removing Hafeez in the next over through a good catch by du Plessis at point.

Steyn left the field after his initial three-over spell and seemed to be clutching his hamstring but returned to bowl soon after. He handed over to Tsotsobe, who bowled a controlled second spell, headlined by 21 dot balls in succession to build pressure even while Imran Tahir was leaking runs at the other end.

Tsotsobe was rewarded for his miserliness. His 19th dot was edged by Umar Amin and even though he wasn't given out on field, the review revealed a clear nick. Eight balls later, Tahir trapped Misbah lbw with the googly - the Pakistan captain was too late to review but it would not have mattered - and Pakistan had unravelled.

Having swelled with confidence, Tahir bowled a range of variations and picked up two more wickets not off his best balls but because of poor shot selection - Umar Akmal who returned a full toss to the legspinner and Asad Shafiq who gifted a catch to cover. Ryan McLaren's wily effort could easily have gone unnoticed but his mixture of change of pace and immaculate line helped him claim the wicket of Shahid Afridi to leave the Pakistan tail to end the match with dignity.

Wahab and Tanvir had some fun, swinging their way to a stand of 61, the highest of the innings but by then it was too late. Pakistan needed partnerships earlier, like South Africa had to be able to chase down the total.

Quinton de Kock and du Plessis put on 77 in a display of the former's new-found maturity and the latter's return to form. De Kock has obviously tightened around the offstump after the torrid time he had in Sri Lanka while the move to promote du Plessis to No.3 paid off.

He was struggling against spin in the previous matches and giving him time against a newer ball proved the right decision. Du Plessis had time to settle in and batted with more patience and composed an innings for the first time in many months. Both he and de Kock were out to Afridi, in what could have allowed Pakistan to run through South Africa but the middle-order held firm.

JP Duminy was given out lbw off Irfan, who struggled with his lines, on three but reviewed successfully - the first time that has happened in the series - and survived a run-out chance. Irfan dropped a catch in his follow through from de Villiers but didn't get a finger on the ball as it hit the non-striker's stumps, where Duminy was out of his ground.

The nervous moments did not affect either Duminy or de Villiers as they took advantage of anything too full and rotated strike cautiously but effectively to post a stand of 70. They put South Africa in a position from which 300 seemed possible but de Villiers was the victim of a sharp catch when he pulled Ajmal to fine leg where Hafeez pouched the ball going backwards.

Duminy, even after reaching fifty off 67 balls, remained watchful but McLaren managed ten runs in the last over. South Africa scored 34 in the last five to suggest their batting is making progress after being bowled out for under 200 in the two matches before this.

Once they posted a competitive total, for the third time in a row this series, the chasing team came off second best.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by gatman11 on (November 10, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

@deconstruct . Thanks dude to bring some sanity to these comments area over here. People who can't understand cricket can criticize Misbah. May be Misbah cannot get in other batting line ups like India and Australia, but Misbah not qualifying for the current Pakistan team is a ridiculous argument. If Misbah performs we make 200 if he does not we hardly reach 150. No matter how pathetic it looks but this is the state of Pakistan batting line up. Someone else also has to make some runs too. Umar Akmal is a talented player but that is not good excuse to bat badly, saying that he wants a higher position in the batting order. All teams have major match winners playing at 6 and for that matter 7. Dhoni is a great example, sometimes he walks in when one of the best batting in the world have failed in the top order and he just wins the match from there.

Posted by deconstruct on (November 8, 2013, 4:29 GMT)

Some comments here (like the one by Majid Saleem) sicken me. Apparently, there are no limits to the depth which a prejudice can make you sink! Blaming the batting failures of others on Misbah reeks of rank personal bias and is an argument totally devoid of logic. And as for the point that Pakistan batting was better before Misbah became captain.....!!! RIDICULOUS. Please check your facts before you hit the keyboard. Anyone remembers those series under Salman Butt and before him Muhammad Yousuf. And even before, for that matter. Give it up guys.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

@Stark62- thnkx, the reason I said to bring Kami back is that first, we dropped him when he actually started to keep well in his last 2 series, he helped to win match with batting against Ireland, he was again being wasted at no-7 when he is the best batsman against fast bowling in Pakistan,we don't have any other keeper batsman in the country,forget Sarfraz, the other reason was to get Umer free from this keeper-batsman mindset, it will help if we play him in tests as a batsman alone. when he let to believe that ok I done my bit by keeping and now at no-6, doesn't matter much if I score or not,,we are using him as a slogger which he is not, again reason being likes of Afridi is not dependable any more and we are not grooming next big hitters at no-7, likes of Hammad for example, Umer I think kind of kid who needs lots of mentoring to make him understand his role but for that he should bat where he thinks he belongs.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

all hard work from our bowlers easily thrashed by our batsmen, their lack of ability to read the situation is beyond my imagination. a fear of getting out is holding them back to do well in this level. Their lack of ability to finding gaps, taking singles is worse in top playing nations. A team fails to score 200 runs should be bottom on ICC rankings, Pakistan is playing worse then Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. no fault in batting, fault is in their mind, they need to learn from other teams how they approach when it comes to chase the target, and how to set up a big target. my team for next ODI is. Shehzad, Nasir, Hafeez, Misbah, shoaib, akmal, afridi, sohail, ajmal, irfan, Junaid

Posted by Riz000 on (November 7, 2013, 15:07 GMT)

To the So called cricket fans let me tell you one thing Pakistan cricket was better when General Pervez Musharraf was in-charge of the country as soon as Zadari took over corruption spread everywhere like a virus now its time for Nawaz Sharif to make things worse for Pakistan & its people.

Main problem we have is in our batting department I still believe our bowling is world class hopefully with the return of Amir it will improve a lot we need to kick out Safarshii players out like Mohmaad Hafeez who has been failing through out his career & yet he finds a place in the team because he is good friends with Misbha and Co look at his record not even a single 100 against likes of Sa Eng Aus not even in UAE flat deck this tells you what kind of player he is.Mishbah has to go Afridi has to go too & get new players who will make difference I mean good players like Harris Sohail maqsood ext ext. keep younus in test and odi so he can share his experience with youngsters.

Posted by Omar-Briganto on (November 7, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

Sohaib Maqsood for Umar Amin , drop wahab riaz and bring back Nasir jamshed.

Hafeez should play at Number 6 & Umar Akmal at Number 3.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (November 7, 2013, 13:50 GMT)

@Saud Sher Mohammad - Don't think anyone will complain as long they keep winning india a world cup or a champions trophy here and there. what major trophies have your so called great bowlers won for you? and i am sure come 2015 world cup, your bowlers will not be able to perform under pressure as usual.

Posted by Stark62 on (November 7, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

@ Tariq Butt I agree with most of your statement, except for the part about Kamran returning!!

U. Akmal is a much, much better keeper than him and arguably our best limited overs batsman but he isn't being given a chance at the top and he recently gave an interview, where he raised his dissatisfaction at the allocated batting number to him.

How would you feel, if you batted exceptionally well in the previous series and was still persisted with at no. 6, whilst someone who has done nothing gets to bat at no. 3?

Lastly, Shezhad has been wonderful in this series but come the next series, he will be dropped after a bad run and if you don't believe me, then ask Jamshed!

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

I totally agree with imbrazil. I have only seen downfall of PAK team after Misbah became captain! Please remove him from squad. How many times team collapsed before his captaincy? maybe once or twice a year? not once every match! A good captain enhances his team, not declines their performance. I see TEAM demotivated. No sense in taking out in form Junaid out of squad for WAHAB. Yes Wahab can be a replacement for Misbah. He bats better than him, take him as batting all-rounder! Umar Amin came in team as an all rounder. Why he has never been given ball till date? even after WAHAB goes for 30+ in 3 overs! Umar Akmal is among batsmen who knows to score 100, unlike Misbah. But he needs to be promoted to number 3 or 4 at max. Hafeez is too EXTREMELY cautious.. He should play ODI as T20. I am sure he will have lots of runs in his account. If every player comes to crease just try to stay till 50 overs. Its no fun in playing. Sports is a source of Entertainment. Please let it be Entertainmen

Posted by CricketChat on (November 7, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

Once again, Umar Akmal disappoints with bat. I feel he should bat much higher, either open the innings or at 3 where he can play his shots without much pressure. Surprised Pak selectors can't see what the rest of world can, Hazeez is only good for T20s. With his batting in doldrums, even his once reliable bowling is coming apart these days. Finally, laws of average is catching up with Misbah, who had great run all through the year until now. My be stating the obvious, it is Pak's batting is losing the games for them while their fielding isn't much of help either.

Posted by Tmalik on (November 7, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

Again sorry state of Pakistan batting, so much written and talked about Pak batting but it doesnt seem to be improving. I see Ramiz and some others keep complainig about domestic structure that cant be only blamed for the batting mess. what is missing in Pak cricket is character building and grooming our national players, they lack confidence, continious choping the players after every couple of matches made fear in them to do well and they keep failing. imagine player like Nasir Jamshed was left out of side and out of form Hafeez was promoted to open. I thought this was the most foolish thing Misbah could do, Hafeez should have been dropped instead. Team cannot carry on this way. I thought Afridi wud hv beter top of order than Hafeez. these guys are professional paid to only play cricket representing nation but like in country we are emotional and make short term decisions only to hurt ourselves. I am sure Afghan or Bangladesh players do better then Pak batting. Shame!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 12:21 GMT)

Unless Pak start to select the teams based on merit and use some initiative, this will keep happening, Shehzad provided an excellent start and U.Amin came in and just killed the innings momentum, this guy doesn't belong to International cricket yet, I don't know why the hell he is doing in this team and actually getting selected for all three formats, somebody mentioned about how PCB has killed some of the talented PAK young batsman and U.Akmal is the biggest example, this boy can play and everybody knows that apart from PCB, first they kept him out and now playing him way down as a keeper batsman, he should be givin confidence to play in top 4, that's where he belongs, this PAK batting line up and positions are horribly wrong,Wahab selection over Junaid is just another example,why you would keep one of your top bowler out so you can play someone who can bat a bit? Hafeez doesn't have confidence as opener,I think PAK should bring Kamran back at no-3 and Jamshed to open with Shehzad.

Posted by gimme-a-greentop on (November 7, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

Glad the coach finally woke up and realised Faf is better up the order in ODI cricket, he is way more comfy against the pace guys than Ajmal and co., but then again, a lot of top batsman struggle against Ajmal and even Hafeez, who is quite an underrated bowler. People saying how can you get out to Tahir should really just keep quiet. He bowls rubbish balls, yes, but is also capable of bowling balls that would get anyone out. That is the joy of the legspinner. Warne was a freak with his consistency. I for one think the attack has looked a lot more threatening with Tahir in it, and the 2 games SA won had a lot to do with his wickets at important times.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

my 11 for 4 th odi. 1) shehzad 2) nasir 3) akmal 4) amin 5) misbah 6)haffez 7) afride 8) rehman 9) ajmal 10)Junaid 11) irfan . Umar akmal should bat up and haffez should bat down the order as he is not able to handle the moving ball.Junaid and rehman should be brought back in place of riaz and Tanvir.

Posted by tongue-in-cheek on (November 7, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

I think that is why South Africa vs Pakistan matches are so fascinating. We both have a similar problem - which is reliable batting. South Africa, just like Pakistan, has no consistency in their openers. As a South African supporter, I never worry about our bowling attack, but I shudder when we come in to bat. We simply don't have a Graeme Pollock or a Barry Richards out there anymore. Amla and de Villiers are good most of the time, but lately, even they seem to lack consistency. I have some hope for the youngster, Quinton de Kock.. but he still needs a lot of experience. I am not a betting man, but if I was, I won't risk ten cents on either of these two teams, as anyone can win on the day. Therefore the remaining ODI's will undoubtedly be interesting, as there is never a lack of entertainment value :-)

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 7, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

Please send Umar Amin to play club level cricket, thats what he deserves

Posted by imbrazil on (November 7, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

Hi All,

Actually the problem is that Misbah has always been very unfortunate for Pakistan every time the moment he has come to Pakistan they have forgotten to play properly. And Misbah only play for himself not for the team winning, he play only for improving his own performance as everyone has seen so many times. its better first pakistan should take him out first then it will be better.

Posted by Salah106 on (November 7, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

If i would be playing against current team, I would seriously declare at 150 whether its a test, ODI or T20. Their batting is pathetic. Umar amin and Wahab Riaz shud be sent back home in first flight. If flight is not available board them in a ship. People have been moaning about giving chances to new talet. but what with present talent they have. My team would be Shezad, Nasir/Imran Nazir, Umar akmal, Asad/younis, ,razzaq/1 more batsman (new), Hafeez, Misbah, Afridi, Ajmal, Irfan, Junaid in batting order.

OMG that tostobe bowled about 25 dot balls, can y imagine how pathetic a batting has to be. Pakistani batsmen have to learn to get singles and we all know they are capable hitting the ball well. When miandad was coach, taking singles was so easy for batsmen.. I feel pity for bowlers of pakistan, they have to bowl and bat aswell

Posted by coolitbaby on (November 7, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

Under 19 batsmen of Indian are better than Misbah and co. Maybe Pakistan can try and request BCCI to obtain batsmen from India U19. Pak batting and temperament are a joke. How can you lose wickets to Tahir, and that too on such innocuous pitches.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 10:26 GMT)

While Indian batsmen are thrashing Australians to all corners of the stadium, and consistently scoring 350+ score, Pakistan on the other hand is struggling to even reach 200 match after match. it seems there is no corrective measures taken to improve batting. God save Pak cricket.........

Posted by golgoal on (November 7, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

how some international team can get out to imran tahir???? pak team is worse than kenya and zimbabwe.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

we need razzaq who is a classic allrounder

Posted by golgoal on (November 7, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

pakistan batting is a disgrace to the world of cricket.

Posted by dontlikecricket on (November 7, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

PAK fans are strange, some saying no place for talent in PAK cricket. I thought Akmal, Amin, Jamsheed, Khuram Manzoor and Shan Massod etc etc are very talented? Fans have been asking to give chances to these batsmen but they all appearing to be one trick ponies!! They perform well in one or two games but then bowlers find their weakness and exploit them, again and again and again!! In past batsmen didn't use to blame coaches and captains for poor performances. They use to rectify them themselves and by talking to experienced players and practising. Don't worry fans, soon other "talented" players will be tested and fans will find out that PAK batting is actually in a landslide decline!!!

Posted by dontlikecricket on (November 7, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Good performance by SA however it has been clear for a long time now that PAK is not producing quality batsmen. Unfortunately the last of great batsmen like Inzi, Yousuf and Younis no longer exist. Misbah is a decent batsman, however not in the same class as the above mentioned. Its just an excuse by some fans that Misbah defensive mind set is the reason for bating decline. This has not stopped Shehzad (and to some extent Akmal during WI tour) to stop playing positive cricket. Simple fact is PAK batsmen cant handle pressure. PAK has tried a lot of so called top batsmen in domestic cricket, however none has performed well (one day and tests). Some of them have played good in an innings or so but not on a consistent level. Time to PAK fans to stop making excuses and admit that batting is in a serious decline. The argument is simple, how can different bowlers keep appearing and performing well while all sorts of batsmen keep failing on a regular basis??

Posted by Hassan_U on (November 7, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

There are too many problems in the batting department

1st Hafeez has never been an opening batsman. His record shows that after 132 ODI with most of them he batting at the top yet at an average of below 30. He should be dropped to bat at lower the batting order

2nd Its clear since the Champions Trophy that batsmen have this problem yet the team management have not been able to iron out these issues. Why Whatmore has not be able to change the approach?

3rd The experience of Younis Khan and Shoaib Malik is must needed. Yes, both of them haven't done well in their last ODI with Pakistan but they will not be worse then the current middle order.

4th. Umar Amin and Umar Akmal have to setup to make their mark as at the moment both can't score to save their life let alone win the games for the team. At the same time Nasir Jamshed is not even a shadow of his past. I feel the poor test series in South Africa has put a dent in his confidence.

Posted by TheProfPak on (November 7, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

When the team is under-performing consistently, then it's the sign to change the head. Both What-more and Mr. tuk tuk should be shown the way. This leadership is only pressurizing young players to get mold into another Mr. tuk tuk. There seems to be no planning whatsoever in current team.

Posted by hellothereeveryone on (November 7, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

I agree with most of the comments on this page. Pakistan is not selecting the right team. They have literally wasted players like Abdul Razzaq, Azhar Mehmood, Imran Nazeer and the list goes on and on. The selectors are either not honest or dont know what they are doing. The second problem is players are mentally very weak. They may be talented but dont have the confidence that they can go out and win matches on their own. A couple of wickets fall and they panic immediately. They also have a very defensive mind set which may have been brought about by their captain Misbah who is very defensive himself and is inducing the same mindset in his team now. Misbah should be restricted to tests only now. Any way it was a pleasure watching Ahmed Shehzad bat yesterday. A good talent for future of Pakistan cricket. Now he needs to be consistent.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (November 7, 2013, 8:31 GMT)

if you are getting out to imran tahir, you should stop playing cricket for god's sake.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

All I want to say is well done to Lopsy. Not easy coming back from being hit out of the park the way he did. Proud of you!

Posted by Haleos on (November 7, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

dismissed for under 200 again? Pakistan bowling needs to dismiss the opposition under 150 every time if fielding first to win more matches. People should stop calling Afridi an allrounder. He is a bowler who bowls well in couple of matches then is ordinary for few and then again good. The cycle repeats. Batting wise..well less said is better.

Posted by CrazyforcricketIII on (November 7, 2013, 7:23 GMT)

Is there a real "Batsman" in Pakistani team? I do not see any! What a pathetic performance?

Posted by Solid_Snake on (November 7, 2013, 7:16 GMT)

The way Pakistam batsmen started,it reminded me of old Pak batsmen..Full of aggression & attacking the bowlers.But suddenly One wicket fell & game over

Posted by faizee02 on (November 7, 2013, 6:42 GMT)

I am a Pakistan Team fan, but still think that the current team is capable of scoring 180 runs(max) at chasing and 220 runs(batting first). That is mainly due to the mental approach. Misbah has been setting wrong example by scoring very slow in the last 15-18 months or so; and being negative in approach in batting. The batting team lacks the will to attack or take on the presssure. Batsmen like Hafeez, Umer Amin, Umer Akmal, Nasir Jamshed are all trying only to grab their place for next match only. Bowling is playing their part nicely. The bowling can and will fail to perform once/twice every 10 matches. Does the baating has the ability to win matches once/twice every 10 matches??

Posted by Pak_Guru on (November 7, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

Terrible once again, easily 25+ runs given while fielding. Pathetic display of chasing, even Bangladesh can chase better than Team Pak. It was a decent wicket. There is just no planning, batsman are repeating same mistakes after years of international cricket. Hafeez still cannot find a way to place inswing, none of the batsman can use their feet to spinners, no one in the present lot can sweep with confidence. Rotation of strike not being done at all. Mr Whatmore either you are a bad coach or batsman have limited ability, which any good professional team takes notice and attacks it. It is just too easy to tame them. The team cannot play 50 overs with confidence on good wickets. Team India on the other hand chases almost anything given to them. When actually Team Pak should have been 2-1 up, they are facing threat of losing the series in the next match itself. Its just sheer waste of time to follow this spineless team. Let me get back to my work.

Posted by WajihKhan on (November 7, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

I would like to keep short n sweet just remove Muhammad Hafeez and Misbah=ul-haq from the team and pakistan will be rocking again. In my sight they are the trouble makers in the team. No responsibility is shown by either of the batsman.they are the senior members of the team. Till people like misbah and hafeez are in the team tthere is absolutely no future for Pakistan cricket I am sorry to say but that's the bitter truth.

Please cricinfo post this comment i will be really grateful

Wajahat Ali Khan Dubai, UAE

Posted by gaindballa on (November 7, 2013, 5:59 GMT)

Problem 1: Pakistan is playing with 7 bowlers and 4 batsmen. Problem 2: only 3 of the seven bowlers are international standard. If umar Amal is keeping wickets to make room for someone. It should be an extra batsmen not a bowler. Wahab riaz should not be playing. Problem 3 : team management is too stubborn to admit mistakes and change things accordingly. Misbah's attitude is that all the people that are trying to tell him something must not know cricket and a precondition for correcting yourself is first admitting you are wrong. Neither will happen as long as grandpa always afraid/tuk tuk is in charge. Problem 4: There are at least 4 more years of the same thing coming up. Problem 5: I have a TV that shows these matches Oh the pain !!! And the helplessness.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 5:42 GMT)

I think I finally figured out why we continue to choose average players. I think Misbah and PCB mentality is like why select players with good averages and good strike rates when most of the time we will get the opposition out under 200. Such a waste letting these players perform to there ability when average players can do the job most of the time.

Posted by Sheezal on (November 7, 2013, 5:36 GMT)

Cricket is one the game where captain plays the main role, he made on field decisions and make the players to play their role. Not necessarily a captain should be a star player. Tendulker, Dravid, Sehwag, Lakshman, Youraj all big players/stars but not good captain like Dhoni who brought lot of laurals to Indian team. I mean to say just change the Pak captain. Bring bak Younas Khan as captain till world cup 2015. By wining the T/20 world he proved to be only guy in current setup who can take the role. I request the PCB authorities leave the dirty politics aside and think of Pakistan please. Misbah is very good player but not a good captain. He cant control the current bunch of players. No doubt Pakistan has the best talent in world but no leader to lead the team. Remember one can make good players but not good leaders, this is God gifted ability.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (November 7, 2013, 5:34 GMT)

Pakistan were off to a flyer and they were pinned back and stopped by their own Captain Misbah. Misbah's negative batting mentality might work in Test cricket but in ODI cricket it handicaps his team. He is too defensive after his team loses a wicket and this puts too much pressure on his batting colleagues trying to score runs.

He doesnt have the ability to maintain the run flow, he is a very slow starter.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 5:25 GMT)

Pakistan is not learning lessons despite back to back batting failures. it's really hard to understand about the mindset of our batsmen. except ahmed shehzad no one has the aggression and ability to attack the opposition. misbah's defensive approach is sinking pakistan cricket. even teams like ireland or bangladesh won't feel threatened by current pak team batting. pak extremely lacks the firepower which is required to stay afloat and competent. any team will be eyeing a win after scoring 250 odd against pakistan. plzz the team management, wake up!!! bring in aggressive batsmen like Abdul Razzaq, Awais Zia and Sami Aslam ASAP!!!

Posted by missionbegins2011 on (November 7, 2013, 5:23 GMT)

4-1 in favor of SA. Once Amla starts firing, the margins of victory will be even bigger for SA and its just a matter of time that he does

Posted by MSMAK on (November 7, 2013, 5:06 GMT)

Good luck to all the Pak fans. Those four behind du Plesis are definitely not coming to the next. Same old pathetic batting performance. It is now very difficult to point out the ones that did perform...impossible to find anything in this "rough"...heck, I'll even settle for a Zerconia as long as it is consistent

Posted by AltafPatel on (November 7, 2013, 5:05 GMT)

Imran Tahir should have been MOM for defending the total.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 4:54 GMT)

I don't understand the mind set of Pakistani batsmen tsotsobe gave 29 runs in first 4 overs next 6 for 5 negative batting negative mind set take a leaf from kohli he play aggressive cricket defensive misbah so much defensive team needs two changes bring in jk and sohaib maqsood drop sohail and wahab we dont need 7 bowlers they r good enough to bowl out any team attacking batting

Posted by KarmatBaig on (November 7, 2013, 4:53 GMT)

Umer Amin continues to disappoint despite so many and long run by the selectors. Fawad Alam was lot better and would have been a regular team member had he been given that many chances as Umer Amin. At least Fawad had the ability to take singles and rotate strike. These new players are just dead bat players, look at the Indians as to how they play their shots.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

Unfortunately it is the defensive mindset of Pakistani batsmen that is the problem. And Misbah is the man responsible for creating this type of mindset. In my opinion, he is responsible for destroying talented batsmen like Umar Akmal and Nasir Jamshed. These are players with aggressive mindset and natural stroke maker. Look at how they are playing now. It is exactly how Misbah plays. Umar Akmal did not even use to play like this in test matches. He got out on a ball that he would have put away toward the beginning of his career.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

pakistan will lose 4-1. weak batting . go south africa

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 4:11 GMT)

Okay, so Wahab and Tanvir gets to play because of their batting...why have Ajmal and Irfan in the team? Replace them with bowlers who can bat (a bit). Don't know where such logic came to selector's/ coach/ captain's mind

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 3:52 GMT)

where is Awais Zia?

Posted by proteasfire on (November 7, 2013, 3:25 GMT)

Magnificent performance from South Africa. Batting unit stood up at last much to the relief. Faf has performed well at the top during his IPL stint with CSK and also in the T20 series against SL. Move up the order brought back his form and its a welcome fifty for him. He should now try to be more consistent and cash in on the opportunities. JP was at his best in his favorite #4 position. Bowlers were aggressive right from the start and Pakistan could hardly bounce back after Steyn struck to remove the first wicket. A good allround performance from South Africa overall and they will now look forward to close the series on Friday.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 7, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

@ DrAtharAbbas made the observation "I live in USA and I see any Pakistani as a Pakistani, irrespective of where he lives. So for me and for a lot of people like me, there are 12 Pakistanis playing. 11 for Pakistan team and 1 for SA."

Coincidentally, I am a South African living in the USA, and I have exactly the same experience watching England play, watching New Zealand, watching Ireland, Holland, etc etc. Watching NZ play Eng was a treat, seeing scorecards like Trott, c Watling b Wagner, or Pietersen c Munro b Elliot.

I would love to see a game or 2 where the Proteas play a team of "Saffas playing for other countries." There are certainly enough top class players out there to make up an expatriate team, I just don't know where they would find a spinner ;)

Posted by romirom on (November 7, 2013, 3:00 GMT)

pak starts loosing the game when misbah played 18 dot delivery from totsobe. Its the turning point for pak

Posted by aa61761 on (November 7, 2013, 2:57 GMT)

Its time to drop Umar Amin and give chance to someone else. Sohail Tanvir's containing efforts are not going to get Pakistan wickets, Pakistan needs to play Junaid Khan in place of Sohail Tanvir in order to put pressure upfront in first few overs.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 7, 2013, 2:54 GMT)

@ gsingh7 continued his incredible streak of hopelessly inaccurate predictions when he posted this comment: "116/7 as i type and pak are losing big time here. they wud be lucky to reach 130 at this rate."

The great value of his predictions is that one can be immediately reassured that whatever he predicts will definitely not be right! Keep it up mate - your comments are invaluable. It is just as good for us to know what will not happen, as it might be to know what will happen.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 2:49 GMT)

I think we seriously need Abdul Razzaq back in action... he can ball well and can make runs as well....

Posted by somethingdifferent on (November 7, 2013, 2:37 GMT)

Good. They deserved to loose. Continue selecting Umar Amin, Asad Shafiq and WAHAB RIAZ, continue ignoring Sohaib Maqsood, Junaid Khan and Abdur Rehman and continue loosing. Serves them right.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 2:01 GMT)

To review such a plumb LBW from a well experience & senior player like Shahid Afridi is really very strange.

Posted by Zahidsaltin on (November 7, 2013, 1:23 GMT)

Pakistan hopes that their bowling can bowl the opposition out under 150 so that they can have a chance to win. Isn't it shamefull that even then they go on with the same club class players. Hafeez, Umar Amin are big failures and are a burdon. As Afridi is only playing as a bowler, their is no need for 6 bowlers. Maqsood should be in and playing.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 0:59 GMT)

Pakistan ODI matches are being played at a very unusual pace the top and middle order batsmen are taking too long to make decisions and are all dismissed wrong footed,no urgency no dancing ability while at the crease,allot of performance anxiety .It is not enjoyable to see Pakistan batting anymore.Able batsmen are either left behind or sitting on benches.Would be a good idea to get Overseas selectors whose job would be to observe domestic cricket and select without prejudice.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 0:57 GMT)

My playing XI for 4th ODI on Friday 8th November:

Ahmad Shahzad Mohammad Hafeez Nasir Jamshed Umar Akmal Misbah ul Haq Shahid Afridi Sohaib Maqsood Abdur Rehman Saeed Ajmal Junaid Khan Mohammad Irfan

Our pace would b minor but South Africa struggle against our spin and Rehman would be handy on these conditions and Nasir and Sohaib should be in the XI with Hafeez n Shahzad opening Nasir coming in 3rd. Umar Akmal should be bought up the order.

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 0:46 GMT)

Pakistan loose one match and everyone's on rampage of criticism. There were positives too from pakistan perspective as well as negatives and the current team selection is 100 times better then the whole year or comparison to champions trophy pakistan has improved alot in selection insha allah. BE happy if your team loose or win as loosing tells about the team problem's so please dont only criticise and lower your team morale but rather appreciate them too with or without win :-) this may help improve their confidence maybe they lack in more then anything so bit of support from their fans will help with confidence :D lol .. GOOD MATCH

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 0:37 GMT)

Why doesn't Fawad Alam get a chance? Look at his records, is there one player in this team who may be better than him?

Batting and fielding averages:

Mat Inns NO HS Ave SR Tests 3 168 41.66 56.68 ODIs 27 64 37.68 73.80 T20Is 24 28 17.63 114.79

Posted by   on (November 7, 2013, 0:29 GMT)

Thank you Misbah Ul Haq for bringing in an attitude that kills the nation a million times during the 7 hours that the Pakistan team plays under your captaincy! Defense defense defense defense defense is all that you know and all that your team knows! I swear I can organize a better team to play for Pakistan, not from amongst the favorites but from amongst the street cricketers, the real leopards who lose their talent playing in streets and never get noticed! Was it not for Imran Khan and his vision and bravery, the likes of Wasim Akram, Waqar Yunus and Inzamam Ul Haq may also have been lost and unnoticed street cricketers!!! Vision and courage matters!

Posted by SHER-A-PANJAB on (November 7, 2013, 0:25 GMT)

GOOD victory for SA...Because Smith is out (sidelined )God gifted ...D.KOCK Played a good inning in the beginning. SO these signs shows that SA young players are more agrressive than old ones . Morkel and SOBE should do more homework for ASIAN condition.BEURAN HENDRICKS ,D.KOCK, ELGAAR,HENDRICKS (S),ABBOTT, LENGE,S .V ZYL,ext.) are ready to take their chances .GOOD luck

Posted by roook on (November 7, 2013, 0:03 GMT)

Expects Misbah all batsman are either too inexperienced to be in team or out of perform. I donot blame Misbah he is given pathetic batsman and is asked to win. No one in Pakistan batting line up average above 30 except Misbah and umar akmal. PCB kickout muhammed yousuf without finding replacement for him. We have not find decent no 3 batsman. Even our youngs batsman lack the intent to win defending bad ball and U akmal defending a full toss and got out.

You can experiment with one or two young batsman not four at same time. Umar Amin is accused of not performing so how colin ingram performs even check out Quinton de Kock batting average even miller average. So if Afridi is dropped we donot have replacement for him.

Posted by Noman-205 on (November 6, 2013, 23:59 GMT)

Once again after being given a healthy start, Pakistan team goes and blows away all the chances of not only victory but the will to fight for the victory! Now that Shahid Afridi has cemented his place in the team after a once in a blue moon performance and has gone back to failing with the bat at his batting position, why not send him as an opener for heaven's sake? He came in the team as an opener remember and his best performances and highest runs have been scored when he has batted at the top of the order! The way he plays, he suits the opening spot as the mandatory 10-over power-play is in operation and hence he has a slightly less chance of being caught on the boundary with fielders inside the circle. And if he gets going, he can give Pakistan a solid start (80-100) runs inside the 1st power-play! That's just his game so why not use it to Pakistan team's strength rather than send him in to sink the team even further with his shot selection? WAKE UP MISBAH!

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 23:51 GMT)

Team selection, batting order lacks out of the box thinking. Again we see same recycled players who have not performed given chances. Hafeez, Amin, Shafiq..... After consistent failures why not give players like Sohaib a long look(50+ avg), why is Junaid riding the pine while Wahab plays?

And today's lineup is full of bits and pieces players.

Ahmed Shehzad(Good batsman, aggressive) Mohammad Hafeez(below avg batsman, good bowler) Umar Amin(below avg batsman, below avg bowler) Misbah(solid batsman) Asad Shafiq(avg batsman) Umar Akmal(avg batsman with ability) Shahid Afridi(below avg batsman, good bowler) Sohaib Tanvir(garbage fast bowler) Wahab Riaz(garbage fast bowler, can hit) Saeed Ajmal(Stud bowler) Mohammd Irfan(Stud Bowler)

Bench Sohaib Maqsood(Promising 50+ avg domestic) Junaid Khan(Stud Bowler)

Posted by LeverocksLunch on (November 6, 2013, 23:36 GMT)

Why don't SA play Tahir more often; after his early gig for the ODI team he's had very few chances. 8 matches, 22 wickets at 12 and a half, going for less than 4 an over....what am I missing?! 3 x 4 wicket bags against major test nations in 8 matches!

A bowler who can turn it both ways will be tough to hit in any serious run chase, especially for the tail-enders. If a quick had these stats he'd be the next big thing, he'll bowl the odd rubbish spell, but then so will the quicks.

Posted by Chaudry_Cricket on (November 6, 2013, 23:32 GMT)

What a pathetic think tank we have, they are not capable of making tough decisions, they are so narrow minded its astonishing ... Why are tanvir and wahab playing they bowl filth and relese pressure set by the spinners, if they are being picked on their batting then why not play an extra batsman.

Jamshed, Shehzad, Amin, Akmal, Misbah, Maqsood, Hafeez, Afridi, Ajmal, Junaid, Irfan that should be the playing 11. Amin and Akmal really need a talking to the coach and captain should be strict with them and really give them an earfull because my patience with Akmal is wearing thin, I mean he is getting out on full tosses. I have never seen such a mentally weak peron in my life.


Come on Green team win the next two games and Akmal please make a substanisal score for goodness sake

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 23:30 GMT)

A nation of almost 200 millions and can't find 6 people to bat. When is officials gonna notice that they have batting problem? Hire a coach from outside the country for God sake. A successful chase of 200, and posting a first inning total of 250 is a dream come true for Pakistan now days. IT IS A SHAME!

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 23:22 GMT)

Pakistan ODI Squad Should Be 1:- Ahmed Shehzad 2:- Shoaib Maqsood 3:- Haris Sohail 4:- Asad Shafiq 5:- Misbah Ul Haq 6:- Umar Akmal 7:- M Rizwan (WK) 8:- Afridi 9:- Ajmal 10:- Junaid 11:- Irfan 12:- Razzaq 13:- A Rehman 14:- Sami Aslam/ Sharjeel Khan 15:- Umar Gul. Hafeez should be dropped from the squad, he is the one who has divided the Team in two groups. He is main culprit.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 23:11 GMT)

why cant they call abdul razaq for odi series? what is the point calling him after loosing one series and drawing one.

Posted by likeintcricket on (November 6, 2013, 22:31 GMT)

I don't know why they didn't see potential in Imran Tahir when everyone was hitting him around in Lahore. Now they are gifting him wickets like some rookies playing against Warne. They now lost a Test series and probably loose the ODI as well because of him. Kaneria is younger than him and spin both ways much more than this guy. Loosing against SA because of spin is sad. Some of these batsman like Umer Akmal and Hafiz can't even play against club sides in higher ranking countries. The future of batting in Pakistan is looking very bleak.

Posted by eusamsh on (November 6, 2013, 22:10 GMT)

For a team that is struggling to bat, how can we even justify playing 6 bowlers in a playing XI [Ajmal, Irfan, Wahab, Sohail, Hafeez, Afridi]. Ajmal, Irfan, Hafeez and Afridi have shown the ability to bowl. We need to drop Wahab and Sohail upfront and let Junaid Khan (regular bowler) take their place and give the batting slot to someone deserving. Umar Amin - needs to go back to drawing board and correct his technique and attitude on the crease. Afridi will not change (unfortunately) - so take him as a bowler; and a bonus batsman. Misbah's slow batting puts pressure on rest of team. In short, PCB/Coach/Captain need to reset their mindset, and for God sake; take out the proven failures from team.

Posted by DrAtharAbbas on (November 6, 2013, 21:41 GMT)

I live in USA and I see any Pakistani as a Pakistani, irrespective of where he lives. So for me and for a lot of people like me, there are 12 Pakistanis playing. 11 for Pakistan team and 1 for SA. The First test match was won by the 11 Pakistanis representing Pakistan. The second was won by 1 Pakistani representing SA. The same is happening in ODI's. I don't really see Pakistani's losing even if Pakistan loses. They are showing their bowling wizardry to the world of cricket.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 21:27 GMT)

the only thing about the maturity n confidence of Ahmed shahzad

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 20:56 GMT)

Shaoib malik should be in pak ONEDAY team, he is only player who can play in every position , good finisher of the game. Since many mafia are active against him not letting him to select in team . Finally he got selected in t20 which is not up to his standard

Posted by mzm149 on (November 6, 2013, 20:50 GMT)

@drnaveed: You forgot to include Asad Shafiq, Shahid Afridi and M. Hafeez in your list of non performers.

Posted by vicmultani on (November 6, 2013, 20:45 GMT)

As always---the problem is the captain. He cannot lead from the front. He is a very docile man. Pakistan need an aggressive team leader---somebody with more fire in him than Misbah. He makes an excuse 'batsmen are failing' after every loss---not recognizing that it is him who has failed. If he cannot get the best out of each player at a given time as an individual or as a team---he must go. He can stay in the team---but not as a leader. Team captain needs to be an alpha male.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 20:40 GMT)

Umar Amin should make way for the more aggressive Sohaib Maqsood, Sharjeel khan for Jamshed.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 20:31 GMT)

I can not understand the suggestions Pakistani Fans are posting on this forum. This is my view for the benefit for Pakistan cricket(I'm an Indian though). Looks guys, your problem is not your bowling. Your problem is middle order. Your problem is that you think Shahid Afridi is an all rounder. In last 40 matches average number of balls faced by Afridi is 16! How can anybody at top order, be it Hafeez/Jamshed play freely when they know that there is virtually no middle order leaving Misbah aside. You need to treat Afridi as a pure bowler. If he can't find his place in the team as a bowler then bring in a strong middle order batsman who can bowl a bit. Your bowling is anyway too strong. What you lack is a reliable middle order batsman. Think about it. Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli play with confidence because they know that even if they fail, there is Raina/Dhoni/Yuvi to bail the team out. You guys need to give similar confidence to your Top Order. Then only I can see Pakistan scoring 200+ mostly

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 20:28 GMT)

Drop hafeez. Give sohaib and sharjeel a chance. Time to start getting rid of the old and bringing in the new.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 20:27 GMT)

it was great mistake of selecters that he didn`t select younus khan for this series he is good playing than umer amin,nasir and hafeez and also good for captaincy as well.

Posted by mzm149 on (November 6, 2013, 20:27 GMT)

Stark62: You are absolutely right about Nasir, Hafeez, Amin and Asad.

Hafeez is an absolute trash specially up the order. He should be asked to play at number 6 and if he doesn't agree, he should be shown the door.

Umar Amin has taken his place in the team for granted. He has not a single match winning performance and has played at every possible batting position. He needs to improve his technique and should not play at this point.

Asad Shafiq is also pretty ordinary one day player. His average of 27 and not a single century in 44 ODIs clearly show his limited abilities. We should give him next two games in the series to give him yet another chance.

In my opinion Pakistan should go with the following team in next game.

Shehzad, Jamshed, Asad, Misbah, Maqsood, Akmal, Hafeez / Afridi, Sohail, Rehman, Ajmal, Junaid.

Irfan needs some rest. He can't play that long.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (November 6, 2013, 20:24 GMT)

So pleased that De Kock got some runs today, hope he gets another chance. And our Fielding is even stronger with AB in the covers - makes a massive difference, almost 2 run outs. Faff lucky to be there but kudos - he had a great knock and looked good.

I think if you can score above 250 you always have a good chance against Pak.

Posted by RameshRayaprolu on (November 6, 2013, 20:21 GMT)

I thought I Tahir must have been the MOM in any case, why Faf Du Plessis ?

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 20:13 GMT)

Hafeez, umer amin and wahab should be dropped with maqsood and junaid coming in ...

Posted by t20cric on (November 6, 2013, 20:10 GMT)

Pakistan's fielding was poor again today. They must improve their standard of fielding. Promoting Amin, dropping Nasir, retaining Riaz & Tanvir, keeping Junaid Khan & Sohaib Maqsood out of the team, these and more are all examples of poor decisions made by the captain. Misbah's captaining & batting this series hasn't been good at all. Atleast Shafiq has been given a chance.Mohammad Hafeez was unlucky to be out from that very low catch(just like Nasir in 2nd ODI). Nasir should be given a chance at no.3/4 for the rest of the series. Shafiq bats well with Misbah so he should come one before Misbah. Sohaib Maqsood deserves a chance cuz he can do some good late order hitting with the tail. Junaid should be in so we have a stronger bowling line-up and bowl out SA for a smaller total.

My XI: 1.Ahmed Shehzad, 2.Mohammad Hafeez, 3. & 4.Asad Shafiq/Nasir Jamshed, 5.Misbah-ul-haq, 6.Umar Akmal, 7.Sohaib Maqsood, 8.Shahid Afridi, 9.Saeed Ajmal, 10.Junaid Khan, 11.Mohammad Irfan

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 20:06 GMT)

Umar Amin should make way for the more aggressive Sohaib Maqsood, Sharjeel khan for Jamshed.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

Well the way Pakistan played was expected inconsistent in batting hardly seems any sense in the way they bat.Plus Hafeez has been playing for more then a decade and his avg is still in mid 20s.I wonder why we are gifting wickets to Imran Tahir he is an ok bowler the way they are playing him as Shane Warne is bowling.Anyhow alone Misbah is not the problem i don't see any one else capable to lead Pakistan.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 19:53 GMT)

This Pak team lacks everything from batting,bowling and fielding to fighting spirit and misbah is to blame for all this. If riaz and tanvir are just to complete their 10 over quota each without picking any vital wkt,why are they playing ???? Misbah has brought the defensive attitude in pak team.The reason why pak fails in chasing more than 150/200 runs is that even if they are chasing 40 odd runs like they did in first test match against SA, their approach towards the chase was like if they were chasing 400.thats y they fail every time.Why anwar ali or ehsan adil are not making it to the playing eleven????why does misbah persist with riaz and tanvir who have failed over and over??? Azhar ali should be picked for the one day side in place of mohammad hafeez Go with three specialist fast bowler irfan/anwar ali/ehsaan adil or rahat ali why is pak struggling to get good quality fast bowlers ??? pak should seriously consider good replacements for aamir/asif before its too late

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 19:51 GMT)

Much better from De kock today, he finally managed to stop playing flashy shots outside off. I always thought faf should play higher and duminy lower. Duminy is a big striker of the ball while faf can build innings better.

Posted by t20cric on (November 6, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

Horrible from Pakistan today. I dont know what Misbah sees in Wahab and Amin. Sure Wahab can bat a bit but with his bowling I really doubt any other team would give a chance. Umar Amin is just horrible and the thought of him being future captain scares me. I think Umar Amin needs to be dropped for Nasir Jamshed cuz Amin is only better then Nasir at fielding. Nasir is more experienced and if you look at Amin's domestic stats then u will see Amin is just playing at max potential right now. Sohaib Maqsood needs to be brought in to strengthen the batting. Junaid Khan should replace Wahab Riaz. Riaz has made 51 runs @64 SR in 3 innings and conceded 72 runs in 14 overs. With stats like that calling him an all rounder is a disgrace to guys like Imran Khan. I"m starting to lose hope on Akmal but he is definitely a better bat then Sarfraz, if Mohammad Rizwan was in the squad then he would deserve an ODI debut right now. Ahmed is a good batsman but he just needs to score big runs.

Posted by Riz000 on (November 6, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

Why is everyone criticising Wahab Riaz?? people have not got clue about selection why not throw Mohmaad Hafeez out who has been failing since 2003 and yet he still plays this guy is not good enough to be a club cricketer only Pakistan can have players like hafeez PCB please for ever get rid of Hafeez Amin Adnan akmal shahid afridi tanvir bring in Harris sohail razzaq maqsood and younus khan mohmaad Rizwan.

Posted by JeevanRamanuja on (November 6, 2013, 19:48 GMT)

It is sad to see Pakistan's batting look so pathetic which some time ago produced some world class batsmen viz.,Anwar,Inzamam,Yousuf etc. There is Bowling is one of the best attacks in the world at the moment no doubt but batting performances like these take them no where.the captain and team Management needs to back their young players like Amin if they think they they can succed at this level.They mut be told that they belong here,they belong to this team and team depends upon gives them a sense of responsibility so that you can expect better performances from them.(from an Indian)

Posted by cricket987 on (November 6, 2013, 19:48 GMT)

i feel it for Pakistan they are all over the place especially their batting, how can the top 6 order batsmen fail to perform? if tanvir and riaz are batting better than the top 6 then that to me is just shamful,there bowling is just about keeping them alive thanks to ajmal and irfan, the rest are useless. enough of me being negative pakistan need to regroup and seriously figure out who going to put them big runs on the board!

Posted by AQ13 on (November 6, 2013, 19:43 GMT)

umar amin is an utter waste whereas wahab should be dropped as he weakens the stranglehold developed by other bowlers.junaid and sohaib maqsood should play the next two matches.

Posted by SyedAreYouDumb on (November 6, 2013, 19:38 GMT)

Pakistan struggle against spin and pace? What is this all about? Especially for a country that produces quality pace/spin bowlers... surely their batting has to be good!

Posted by Major85D on (November 6, 2013, 19:25 GMT)

Poor fielding, poor batting and poor captaincy by pakistan. we are miles away from teams like india, australia, england, sri lanka and south africa. they all prepare for wc 2015 and pakistan steps backwards. as long as coach whatmore and tuk tuk misbah are in the team, we well never perform well.

Posted by Stark62 on (November 6, 2013, 19:25 GMT)

This is what I call justice!!

SA stuck with Faf and he was motm today, plus Duminy was struggling but SA persisted with him and he reached a 50, maybe it was Jamshed's day to hit form again?

Lastly, Hafeez is horrible and Amin is trash (but pcb like him), plus Shafiq will be 28 within the next two months and is still being given chances, in addition Razzaq and Malik are returning which will be even more frustrating and infuriating for the deserving players.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 19:22 GMT)

Misbah should retire now.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

Umar Amin should make way for the more aggressive Sohaib Maqsood

Posted by Pindia on (November 6, 2013, 18:56 GMT)

Think the toss was crucial. Jamshed should come back in place of Amin, the former has several international centuries and is dynamic. I am not sure what Amin can do... credit to Wahab and Sohail today. This Pak line up can bat all the way down. Gul coming back would strengthen bowling and batting. Shehzad should open in all formats. Hafeez and Afridi have to play for bowling. Rehman cannot get a look in since we already have three quality spinners and Afridi and Hafeez on their day can win a match with their bat. I think we should stick with Umar Akmal with the gloves, I think his batting and keeping will improve over the next few months.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:55 GMT)

260 was a decent score but pakistan's batsman ?? Hafeez easily out , Amin easily out, Umar Akmal easily out , Afridi easily out , Asad easily out . Who was there to do batting from Pakistan side? Players taking their place in squad as granted especially umar amin. Fielding just a joke and the time SA scored 259 it seemed from pakistan players like they already lost the match then Wahab Riaz and Sohail tanvir bat so beautifully and wahab just cant bowl anything special all he does is speed up the bowl he needs to have variety in his bowling and he should learn that watching videos from players like waqar & wasim until then bowling doesnt seem like his theory to practice .Hafeez just cant bat as a opener and its already tried and tested theory for him in ODI's and if he can bat down the order as no4 or 5 is yet to be seen as he just cant handle the pressure as a opener or 1 down the order.Afridi just all slog "hit or miss" not the kind or right thing for pakistan batting cause.Continued

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:55 GMT)

really really ordinary batting. if one looks at the Pakistani batting lineup. no one u can say will be able to score a hundred. They can only score a fifty if they bat out of their skins. I don't know what the coaching staff is doing. Misbah is taking the team no where. He cannot play a captains knock and win a match and set the example. Pakistan are only able to save face due to their bowling.

Posted by Cricdew on (November 6, 2013, 18:48 GMT)

@siabbasi,,,,,,,,,,,,,well said bro

Posted by binu.emiliya on (November 6, 2013, 18:48 GMT)

Only Ahamad Shehzad looking aggressive , inject some young blood from U19 level Sami Aslam is a good option

Posted by mzm149 on (November 6, 2013, 18:46 GMT)

Where are all Asad Shafiq supporters? he showed what he is capable of i.e. NOTHING.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:44 GMT)

plenty to answer for paksitan. If sohail and wahab are in for their batting. Especially wahab then they should replace him with a bastman as his bowling is not that good. When best partnership come from no8 and no 9 then there is surely some issues with your top order. They should bring in Maqsood some how in squad in place of Amin or even wahab. Though 1 man may not change much. next match will be on same wicket so it will be a bit slower. Winning the series means winning 2 games in a row.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 18:42 GMT)

Umar Amin should make way for the more aggressive Sohaib Maqsood

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:40 GMT)

i agree, pakistan's batting is just woeful. i dont know about the individuals but seeing the performance, it leaves a lot to be desired. as much as i admire their bowling, batting and fielding is real bad. the point to understand cricket is not one dimensional game. there is batting/bowling/fielding comprising together to make it cricket. being brilliant in one and poor in the other two wont take the team higher. should excel in one and be decent in others to back it up. this way it will take the team higher. i feel for pakistan because its one of my fav team from the days of legendary wasim akram, imran khan, ramiz raja. i just hate seeing the condition. really feel bad. i always feel that asia should be the cricketing super power and no other continent. like europe in soccer, when talked about cricket asia should be on the mind...

Posted by Cricdew on (November 6, 2013, 18:40 GMT)

Again failed to cross 200 ...feeling pity

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 18:38 GMT)

Umar Amin should make way for the more aggressive Sohaib Maqsood

Posted by siabbasi on (November 6, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

Great game of ODI Cricket.

Pak has found good opening pair, Wahab Riaz and Sohail Tanveer shall open...based on how we select openers.

Afridi,,,,,hmmm maybe give him keeper's gloves. That will earn him another 7 years in Pak line up......Career started as Bowler, became famous for batting and back to bowling. Only Keeping is left sir.

I am just being sarcastic and showing dis appointment on team PAK.

Posted by roook on (November 6, 2013, 18:30 GMT)

So most unwanted bowler getting most runs in an innings. So if Wahab is dropped for junaid then we have a long tail of three. Dropping Wahab will be a bad idea unless you have strong batting order. So many under performing batsman in same team it is a team effort of getting out under 200

Posted by Cricdew on (November 6, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

lol.............Atleast we have been winning , but some teams can't win even on their own tailor made pitches

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

well if best partnership comes from your no8 and no9 then that tells the story of how poor your batting is.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:21 GMT)

that familier slide or collapse by pakistan, indeed living up true to its reputation.. what else to be said.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

It's really very difficult to understand why wahab is playing when they already have junaid khan, and pak have already tried by making a changein batting then why not try maqsood in the next ODI in place of sohail tanvir and junaid in place of Wahab.

Posted by roook on (November 6, 2013, 17:56 GMT)

There is nothing wrong with our bowling but our batting is pathetic. We lack international standard batsman or they have not been groom enough before replacing senior players. I doubt we can we can win by chasing with this batting lineup. Every series we play with different batting lineup and lose. Too many struggling players in the team hafeez,umar amin,nasir jamshad, Asad shafiq.

Posted by ispaewbi on (November 6, 2013, 17:52 GMT)

If Misbah doesn't drop Wahab and Sohail for the next match, I'm starting a petition to drop him as a Captain. Fudge this. He will never learn. Personal Vendettas over Nation.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

well another 1 of paksitan's poor show with bat. Good little partnership early on by ahmed and Hafeez then quick wickets. Hafeez as usual 15/20/25 or on a good day 30.

Umar amin can not say he batted down the order today. Can some 1 explains me why he is much talked about among board/some ex players and media? His domestic stats are not that great at all. & he is our future captain.

A guy with promising domestic record is sitting on bench in squad.

Misbah got a tough one today. Umar akmal and asad has soft dismissals. not sure what they were doing.

And it was too much to ask for afridi. on his current batting form asking to chase 140 is bit too much.

Wahab's role is also questionable. If he is playing as an all rounder then he is not good bowler and even not good batsman.

Posted by SurlyCynic on (November 6, 2013, 17:44 GMT)

Finally De Kock got a chance, big improvement on the struggling Ingram! And AB can display his fielding skills. Faf v lucky to stay in the team, but got a useful 50 under pressure. Not sure why Parnell was the one to miss out given our struggling batting but it worked out for the best.

Hopefully our batsmen will keep improving with practice against quality bowlers like Ajmal, Afridi and Irfan.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (November 6, 2013, 17:41 GMT)

there is no room for talent for pakistan that why Sharjeel Khan and Sohaib Maqsood the nest batsmen in pakistan right now are not in the team.

Posted by bouncer709 on (November 6, 2013, 17:41 GMT)

50 runs without loss, 116 runs for 7, we have seen Shoaib Malik and Razzaq back in T20 team, now it is clear slot Open for them and Younis Khan too in ODI. Selectors should not give chance to Hafeez and Umer Amin in next match. I feel sorry for Asad Shafiq, axe will fall on him in next match.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

I would like to state the fact that previously pakistan had 4-5 batman whom we could depend on. younis inzamam yousuf shoaib malik (kind of bcz his 20-30 runs were effective. ) and razzaq. if one or 2 had failed the rest would have carried the burden. now everything depends on misbah. if misbah fails we dont have a name we can depend on. All the players playing today are great hitters and indeed great batsman but for t20 format when they know all the have to do is play 20-30 balls each and hit on every ball.

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 6, 2013, 17:36 GMT)

116/7 as i type and pak are losing big time here. they wud be lucky to reach 130 at this rate.cant see them a force in world cricket for years to come with such bare cupboards regarding youngsters. umar akmal,amin shafiq,etc are overrated players who never show up when it matters. good on sa winning in uae , away from home.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 17:32 GMT)

South Africans gave ajmal afridi and hafeez a combined total of 4 wickets. pakistan just gave away Tahir 3 wickets in his 4 overs. where is the plan against Tahir?

Posted by drnaveed on (November 6, 2013, 17:10 GMT)

why constantly persisting with wahab riaz ,perhaps he has a big source ,thats why he is in the team so regularly, off and on though.a talented bowler like junaid khan is sitting on the bench is sohaib maqsood. if fail to understand why selectors are not playing these players in the team, and constantly giving chances to players who have not given any performance at all in the near past ,like wahab riaz , sohail tanveer ,umar ameen ,nasir jamshed to name a few . i don't know ,what kind of a talent umar ameen possesses ,that the selectors thought of him as the future Pakistani team captain , to groom.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

quick wickets and hard for pakistan. ahmed playef welk for his little innings. hafeez as usual a 20.

umar amin, well today he got good chance and can not complain he comes down the order. only god knows how board, media rate him so high. his domestic stats are not that good as well. and he ia our future captain. misbah got a bit hard 1 from umpire impact wise and hit wise but looked too close in normal speed. good thing he took more time and couldnt waste a review . up to akmal, asad and afridi but hard job now. this series again going same route as previous 2. with 1st SA then Pak then SA.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

Does Hafeez have leverage? Drop me and I'll spill the beans. A player this pathetic would not get into any first class team, he would be out of his depth in the sunday leagues!!!

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 16:07 GMT)

I think no place.for wahab tanvir amin sohaib maqsood junaid khan should be replaced and it was the worst decision to drop younis khan from the odi squad only Misbah and younis are the two experienced players in Pakistan

Posted by Chona on (November 6, 2013, 15:55 GMT)

Cricket is a game seeing so many ingenuities over the last few decades. Examples of what has already become part of game include Helmets in late 70s, White balls in late 70s, doing away with rest days in tests 80s, 6 ball over all over the world since 70s etc. Some changes did not get on well with ICC examples include Aluminum bat tried by Lillee, Walky Talky by Cronje, Ball in glove by Gilchrist in WC Final 2007 etc. Now during this series we have been witnessing "Easy Grip Spray" being used for better grip and ease in fielding. Similarly Energy patches seen on right/Bowling arm which help in reducing fatigue and inducing drip like sustained energy into blood stream. Let us see what happens with this fads....!!! Accepted or summarily rejected...???

Posted by PAKisTANeee786 on (November 6, 2013, 15:22 GMT)

This is a very good batting track, Pakistan should get this score if they play to their potential. Umar Akmal, Umar Amin, and Asad Shaifq have to come big today if we are to chase this and get a lead. Batting should get even easier if we spend time on the wicket, key wickets will be Misbah and Shafiq they both play well together. Likes of Akmal and Amin are hit and miss players, hopefully they can justify their position today. Pathetic decision to play Wahab, we should have had SA folded for around 200 if we selected Junaid, and had Irfan held on to that catch from AB de Villiers. Well played, De Kock, Duminy, and Faf, good contributions, waiting for a cracking contest!

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

Sharjeel Khan can be a opener for pak maybe and Hafeez again not playing down the order? ok lol your choice mate :-)

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:18 GMT)

I think Misbah should come at 3 and sent Umar Akmal at 4

Posted by kamranpk2000 on (November 6, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

if Pakistan manage to chase the target. it will give them lot of confidence. why wahab and Tanveer are still playing. Absolutely no space for Wahab. his bowling is less then average and betting is terrible. bring Junaid in for wahab. and replace Tanveer with Shoiab Maqsood.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:11 GMT)

no place for wahab riaz....

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:10 GMT)

sarfraz, wahab, should not be given any more chances but to junaid and other new players. leave umar akmal and umar amin as they are the best talent but need grooming

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:10 GMT)

Pakistan selection is wrong y we need third fast bowler replace wahab with maqsood who is spin bowler as well and jk in for sohail

Posted by Darvesh on (November 6, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

sorry, this is already a lost cause. A total of 260 is an insurmountable tall order for Pak batting order. Among the "established" batsmen, we have Hafeez who come rain or hail, will stay around 25 on his best day, Umar Akmal & Afridi will as usual throw away their important wickets cheaply most likely under 20 each. Asad & Misbah will have to carry the bat for most part. A total of around 170 is what w're looking at here.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 15:00 GMT)

Wahab inclusion is absolutely wrong, Razzak is too old. Pakistan have to think seriously about 2015 WC. need to give the chance youngsters like Maqsood or Haris. Junaid should in in next match he is much batter then tanweer, and also he is the one who is going to play 2015 in Aus.

Posted by laho111 on (November 6, 2013, 14:52 GMT)

how many chances will give to both umer amin and umer akmal. No performance from wahab and sohail also. Remove umer akmal and amin and include sarfaraz and maqsood. Give chance to tabish khan a good bowling alrounder.

Posted by ispaewbi on (November 6, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

Help me out here guys, I am really struggling to understand why Sohail and esp Wahab is still in the team after they both have done practically nothing but either Ball or Bat?

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 14:47 GMT)

I think it's a pretty good performance by both teams actually. Besides the poor fielding I think pak did well not to let Saffers runaway with it. Game is in balance but if Pakistan is to win they gotta mke some changes in batting line ups. Misbah will need to surprise AB. Steyn is back so u know he ll go for the kill here. Send Afridi up in the order or Umar Akmal. Do something different than usual.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 14:46 GMT)

maqsood again missed out. asad included.he has good test series. i hope he converts that form in to odi. wahab has been poor as always. he role is questionable. they need a medium pace all rounder instead of him . he is not good batsman nor bowler. wicket looks good to bat on but with pakistan it hardly matters. it is a good score for SA and pak will have to bat well to chase. youngsters need to take responsibility today ahmed, amin and akmal.

poor filring effort by pakistan. they were lacking intensity. mis fields and lazzyness. well batted by SA . the amazing thing was how well they run . lots of 2s and singles in the innings.

Posted by cvenka on (November 6, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

Thanks to pak bowlers first part of my prophecy of SA scoring around 250 runs came true! Let us wait for pak batsmen to do the favour of imploding below 150 runs!

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 14:27 GMT)

maqsood again missed out. asad included.he has good test series. i hope he converts that form in to odi. wahab has been poor as always. he role is questionable. they need a medium pace all rounder instead of him . he is not good batsman nor bowler. wicket looks good to bat on but with pakistan it hardly matters. it is a good score for SA and pak will have to bat well to chase. youngsters need to take responsibility today ahmed, amin and akmal.

poor filring effort by pakistan. they were lacking intensity. mis fields and lazzyness. well batted by SA . the amazing thing was how well they run . lots of 2s and singles in the innings.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 14:05 GMT)

Pakistan team all the Very best. They will do good.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 14:01 GMT)

there is no place for wahab riaz in this side:pak should add one more batsman:razzaq is best choice for future,

Posted by likeintcricket on (November 6, 2013, 13:47 GMT)

Misbah often come up with bad selection time after time. I see no reason to select three fast bowlers against a side who are struggling against spin but expert in playing fast bowling. Abdul Rehman is much more effective than Wahab Riaz but he always gets in because of his close friendship with Misbah.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 13:34 GMT)

today again the big test for Pakistan batting line up. they can rise today openers gine good strat but then again Misbah have to finish the match. dont expect tail enders starting from Umars.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

MAYBE Wahab should be replaced with Abdul Razzaq? Pakistan dont need long tail perhaps rather need more batting power and a bowler thats the PCB team thinking , so perhaps Abdul Razzaq will be a good replacement for the team insha allah

Posted by cvenka on (November 6, 2013, 13:30 GMT)

I do not understand the logic of playing in neutral grounds in a bilateral series. Home conditions gives big advantage to the host team. what advantage would be gained by the pak team by playing in these so called neutral places? Also it will affect the rating of pak team in the ranking. It is better not playing!. ICC should either revoke the ban on playing in Pak or do not give official status to these matches.

Posted by roook on (November 6, 2013, 13:29 GMT)

It was a bit flat track Pakistan should have played with an extra batsman. Irfan and junaid took just 10 matches to prove themselves. Wahab have played 40 matches and still struggling for his place in the team. I doubt pakistan can chase 250 target this will be to much for their under performing. There is lack of aggressiveness in Pakistan batting to but bowler under pressure.

Posted by shohag23 on (November 6, 2013, 13:17 GMT)

I am trying to find the answer why Wahab Riaz is still in the team?Why Misbah keep ignoring Junaed Khan?I am sick and tired off Pakistan Team Management.

Posted by cvenka on (November 6, 2013, 13:16 GMT)

I think as usual pak will limit SA to around 250 but will implode to below 150 runs!. Even If today also afridi fails he will be included for the next ODI also!

Posted by Resultpredictor on (November 6, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

SA is poised for huge score and definitely Pak cannot chase it. SA is going to win this match easily.

Posted by Darvesh on (November 6, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

so just two batting fails and Jamshed is out, yet that utter failure of an opening batsman aka Hafeez gets to keep his spot despite being in the business for 10 yrs and never been able to improve his batting skills. His measely batting avg of 28 speaks for itself. If you want an off spinner then shove him down the order in place of Wahab Riaz and give consisten chance to a huge batting potential that Nassir Jamshed is.

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

indeed wahab showed today he needs rest and pakistan needs junaid

Posted by AltafPatel on (November 6, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

Incuding deKock for Ingram is good move. Should have been replaced from first ODI. Way Ingram played shows he is never good for opening batting. deKock was in very good form during Champions League.

Posted by kamranpk2000 on (November 6, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Best Of Luck Pakistan. Be a winner..

Posted by Solid_Snake on (November 6, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

What a delivery..Amla had no answer to that..Just amazing

Posted by   on (November 6, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Should be a great contest. Reminds us how awesome is it to watch the game when both bat and ball are in the contest, unlike in India.

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