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Hafeez admits to poor showing in Tests

Umar Farooq

September 25, 2013

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Mohammad Hafeez trudges back to the pavilion after a low score, Zimbabwe v Pakistan, 1st Test, Harare, 1st day, September 3, 2013
Mohammad Hafeez: "The ball is coming on to my bat but I am not able to play a big innings. It happens with any big cricketer" © AFP


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Mohammad Hafeez is quite likely to be axed from Pakistan's Test squad given his poor showing in the format this year but, Hafeez said, he couldn't complain if that happened and it would be part and parcel of the game. A lack of first-class game time, he said, has contributed to his woes, but he still believes he is "one big innings" away from establishing himself in Test cricket.

"It's not a bad patch, it's not form too," Hafeez said in Lahore. "It happens in cricket, you try your best but sometimes you can't perform in a particular format. It's not a matter of technique even, the ball is coming on to my bat but I am not able to play a big innings. It happens with any big cricketer."

Hafeez has aggregated 102 runs in 10 Test innings this year, and his biggest struggle was the three-match Test series against South Africa in February. That signaled the start of his current slump, as he was doing reasonably well since being recalled in 2010 after a three-year gap. In South Africa, he was exposed against moving ball and became Dale Steyn's bunny. On the recent trip to Zimbabwe, he remained off-color in the Tests, scoring 59 in four innings despite being the Man of the Series in the ODIs.

He cited Pakistan's lack of Test matches as a major hurdle for him to turn his form around: "If you look at Test series we played against South Africa six months ago, we didn't play first-class cricket [until the Zimbabwe series this month], so it's a lengthy gap and it's not easy to adapt yourself in the format after such lengthy gap. But yes it's not an excuse, I admit that in the previous five Test matches my performance has not been good and I am concerned about it."

Given his current form, Hafeez says he will accept his fate - whatever it be - when the squad is announced. "I am playing well in the other formats and it's not like that I am not doing the handwork, but maybe I need to be doing more handwork. I am just one big inning away from being settled in the format. But the selectors' job is to pick the best team for Pakistan, if they think my place is there in the team, they will pick me, otherwise I will accept their decision."

Hafeez, 32, is currently the captain of Pakistan's Twenty20 team. He scored 665 runs at 23.75 as a T20 opener but his batting average started to rise after dropping to No. 3 - this year, in four matches at the position he has averaged 52.00. When asked if he would bat down the order to find his rhythm in Tests, Hafeez said: "It's not my decision, to decide whether to bat lower down the order. I am always ready to play at whatever the number they want me to play at, but it's the decision of team management."

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Posted by Crick_Expert on (September 27, 2013, 21:28 GMT)

Kingsland Selection Board announced final 11 players for SA tour.

1)Younis Khan(CAPT) 2)Shan Massood 3)Nasir Jamshed 4)Shoiab Maqsood 5)Haris Sohail 6)Umar Akmal(WKP) 7)AFRIDI(Vice-CAPT) 8)Ajmal/Rehman 9)Junaid 10)Irfan 11)Ahmed Shahzad

Sorry no place for Mr. tuktuk, Asad Safiq, Azhar Ali, Adnan Akmal, Sohail Tanvir and Professor.

Posted by   on (September 27, 2013, 0:30 GMT)

Hafeez has proven he can perform in all conditions and in all 3 departments of the game , Bowling , Batting and Feilding. What seems to be a problem here is the support he has to give Misbah. Its the competitiveness and politics of roles in such exposed and rewarded careers. He wants to be captain in all formats. As a Pakistani Cricket supporter and lover I would say shape up or be ready to suffer first step consequences. Competing for roles in the team is ok but underperforming consciously or subconsciously is unacceptable.

Posted by Mikhail.Sajjad.Azhar on (September 26, 2013, 22:45 GMT)

Pls ask Hafeez what he think of himself? Big cricketer may be but for sure not a normal all-rounder. If he is really playing as an all-rounder he should have been batting down the order like most all-rounders do (except Kallis, unless he think himself as Kalis). Problem is that in his world of illusion he is a top order batsmen, in reality he is not. He does not have talent/class to perform at top. Just look at his batting average, I think he should be holding some kind of world record by playing more than 100 matches as an opener with such a low average. For ten years he is trying to prove himself as a top order batsmen. Earlier in his career he was dropped for the same reason. He said he can bat down the order if management wants but who can stop him if he wants go down the order and play as a normal all-rounder? He just think himself as a senior & wanted to get all the opportunities. I think he would have done great he had played his entire career down the order like allrounders do

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 22:29 GMT)

@ICCexpert and in case you were wondering who Pakistan's current best t20 batsman is, that'll be the guy who have up the captaincy after constantly being told he was too slow and only fit for tests. As in, the one who's been scoring plenty of t20 runs in the CPL and CL qualifiers. Funny how the Misbah's the best batsman we have for t20, yet he was hounded out of the team. The idea of a format-specialist is a myth.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 18:14 GMT)

i dont get it , its not about form , its not about technique , its not about bad patch as well . so what is it about ? mr hafeez , inspite accepting the decision to be dropped, have courage to stand out ur self ...

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 17:11 GMT)

@ICCExpert you mention Hales and Lumb as T20 specialists, but there's no way they strike any fear in the hearts of opposition. The same goes for a ll the T20 specialists England pick, the Butlers and the Dernbachs. They're all liabilities. If you recall, it was Collingwood who brought them T20 success by captaining in 2010 tournament, and people like KP, Broad and Swann, not Yardy or Lumb. Your argument doesn't hold - it's teams with test performer who win at T20. Even India right now who are succeeding, the players who win them T20 are, unsurprisingly, also performing at tests: Dhoni, Dhawa, Kohli. This whole policy of selecting specialist teams as a unit per format is a proven failure.

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

@ICCexpert Sorry, you've got this wrong. Kallis has shown that (in IPL at least) that he can be an invaluable T20 player. So much so that he got drafted back into the national side for the last World T20. Amla has respectable figures in the T20s he's played, and his strike rate shows he can increase the pace of his game for the format. I'd disagree over the England trio you mentioned. Trott does just fine in ODIs, despite all the criticism he gets for not playing like MS Dhoni. Cook proved a lot of people wrong when he took over the ODI captaincy. Bell is a strokemaker who can definitely play in shorter formats. What we've seen in recent years is proof that the best test players can scale their games down, but the T20 mavericks can't scale themselves up. It's the difference between being a Jacques Kallis versus a Glenn Maxwell. Pakistan shouldn't pick nobodies for their T20 teams - in case you forgot, it was the likes of Akmal, Afridi and the captaincy of Younis who won the World T20

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

Not only he is a total waste player (just look at his avg as an opener), but he is also involved in politics, so anyone with some sense wouldn't support him.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 13:42 GMT)

I've been a great supporter of Hafeez but Test cricket is not for him. Don't even talk about giving chances. He certainly is not going to perform against accomplished bowlers likes of Stern & Morkel. If you want to give chances then give it to younger players. Fawad, Aslam, Sadaf. Also Hafeez is useful as a bowler but that's for ODI that can work, but bat him lower down the order as pinch hitter and expect a full quota of bowling.

Posted by nav9211 on (September 26, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

My answer is no the reason is that if u drop him then u dropped him in Zimbabwe Tour..Selector need to give him last chance against one of the best team..If he is the professor he should perform otherwise remove him permanantly and give chance to new batsman...This time if u try new player then he will also struggled and again hafeez will come....So for me Give him a last chance ever in test cricket and if he perform then retained if not remove it forever and give a new player chance against less competitive team....Thank u

Posted by DataQue on (September 26, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

Remove him from T20 captaincy as well!

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

I think it will be a great favor to Pakistan's cricket, if Hafeez is dropped from all formats of the game.He been the most over rated player for the last ten or 12 years. He is a bits and pieces player, just not have enough talent required at this level.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

when was the last time hafeez played well against any good team , i seriously cant recall any instance or tournament of late other then Zimbabwe odi and one t20 match with SA experimental team of youngsters yet he has been playing in all three formats and Pakistan is loosing series and tournaments with such poor performances of players and there's no consideration of making these players understand they deserve to be in the side for their show of talent and not for making excuses after every loss even against teams like Zimbabwe. Hafeez seems to never accept his poor form/bad performance and this sort of attitude is very detrimental to the whole team further continuing with such players will have impact on other players attitude & performances.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Hafeez has been in miserable form his performance in Tests ie disastrous he has also shown weakness against extreme pace he'll be doing Pakistan team a favour by dropping down...................

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (September 26, 2013, 11:43 GMT)

@legsidewide...I dont consider Amla and Kaliis as t20 players while as they are the best test players same goes for England Cook, Bell and Trot are not T20 players. so your south african and English exampe is not up to mark, look at specialist of SA in Miller and F du Plessis and England players like Lumb, Hales, Wright, they are perfect example of t20 cricket. Dravid, Lazman and Ganguly were the best in tests but not for t20. Pakistan needs to learn the trick too by habving separate teams.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

They should work on his mistakes on moving tracks like australia, england, south africa. he was moving too much outside the off stump and flashing at deliveries further away from him whereas was supposed to play late that is why was getting caught behind and it is opposite in Pakistan and india type pitches and he will be handful and he needs his partner Taufeeq for test back and yes fawad alam should be in the squad too as most one day, test matches have been saved by him and so does shoaib malik needs to be in for one down and umar akmal needs to be their in squad too and play one down position too iif other is not performing then younis and misbah and let youngsters like asad shafiq, azhar ali come after the two greats and then hitters like razaq and afridi come and then bowlers. keep competition in squad. look at australia, sa they all change teams according to situation of pitch even if they win. pk they win keep same winning squad which is wrong keep it according to situation

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 10:31 GMT)

the sad thing is, if Hafeez had shown some true humility, instead of stubbornly insisting he was an opener, he could have re-invented himself as an all-rounder batting lower down. He should bowl far more than he does - every team would love an extra option as economical as he is, and he also bowls wicket-taking deliveries. I'd like to see Azhar and Fawad open together, then Misbah, Younis, Asad and Umar Akmal

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

@ICCexpert I'd be careful with this idea of format-specialists. It's good to apply logic, but if you go too far, you end up doing what England and South Africa do. Excellent in tests, but pick complete nobodies in ODIs and T20s who look out of there depth and get routinely beaten. Their best limited-over players are, unsurprisingly, their best test players: people like Kallis, Amla, de Villiers, Steyn. NOT the Tstsobes, the Behardiens, the Phangisos. Same goes for England. If you're a good test player, you SHOULD be able to translate your skills down the formats

Posted by applethief on (September 26, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

Sadly, as much as Hafeez's experience and bowling are valuable, there can be no place for him in the test team. He can't be a second spinner while we have Abdul Rehman, who is an excellent left-handed spinner, and in tests at least, he can bat aggressively at the tail and eke out more runs than Hafeez is currently getting. Hafeez cannot be an opener - instead, Fawad Alam needs to be there, who can also bowl some off spin if needed.

Posted by AamirAbuOzair on (September 26, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

He has been highly over rated and is proving to be a high maintenance person. I quite liked him when he was not a captain but not anymore. His personal grudges against Abdul Razzaq is well known. He did not even let him play in domestic T20 tournament, when he was captaining Lahore Loins and no matter why Lahore Loins failed to win and we ended up sending Faisalabad to Champions Trophy! Hafeez should not picked up for Test Matches. 10 Matches is a lot to prove and he has failed. Also we should remove him from Captaincy, we need a sincere player to captain us not a politician!

Posted by RankPace on (September 26, 2013, 10:09 GMT)

@ t20cric : Absolutely agreed with you.

But somehow the selectorst keeps selecting players from nowhere who dont average much in the domestic matches and then keep trying them for the rest of their lives. There is FAWAD ALAM, HARRIS SOHAIL and others who deserve a fair chance in test matches.

The same is true about bowlers. Somehow SADAF HUSSAIN is invisible to the selectors inspite of his incredible numbers in the first class matches.

Posted by Stark62 on (September 26, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

No point of dropping him against SA in the UAE because his bowling will be vital to the composition of the side. Also, Ajmal is weak against left handers and a left arm bowler isn't going to trouble a lefty either, so Hafeez will play a crucial role on those truning tracks.

Let him open and tell him to play aggressively because that would open up a slot for a middle order batsman, rather than slotting him down the order and sacrificing the no. 6 spot. The likes of Alam, Harris and U. Akmal are better than Nasir, Taufeeq and Shezhad.

@hellothereeveryone You have lost your mind!! Fawad is a middle order batsman but was forced to open the innings but yet, he averaged 41.66 in Tests which is the best average by a Pak opener since Anwar, plus he averages 37.68 which is the better than Shafiq and even, Jaywardene.

Posted by delpihero on (September 26, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

Clever, he knows if he plays this series its the end of his car rear so he may as well let some one else fail so he can come back for the next series against weaker opposition.

Posted by Hassan_U on (September 26, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

In this article....he has placed the blame on anything to everything. Other then to say he is not up to task of test cricket !!!

A young player should have been given extended rope in the test side rather then Mr Hafeez.

Posted by Ubaidaleem on (September 26, 2013, 8:34 GMT)

if he is not playing as a regular spinner in Test team, then he should be included on batting credentials alone

Posted by Hassan_U on (September 26, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

He has been over rated and under performing for same time now. He has been in the dream land of being the next person the lead the team.

The reality is even in ODI for an opening batsman and played over 100+ ODIs since his comeback he has below par ODI average. and has been hiding behind his bowling. He should come at number 6-7 in ODIs !!!

Further more do you agree he was the reason for Abdul Razzaq being dropped from the team. As Razzaq questioned that Hafeez dropped him in the Sami Final game V Sri Lanka in T20. After that Abdul Razzaq never got selected !!!

Cann't wait to see Hafeez being dropped from the ODI side too

Posted by hellothereeveryone on (September 26, 2013, 7:47 GMT)

Why do we compare Hafeez with batting greats of all time???? We should remember he is an all rounder. As a bowler he has been very useful in limited over cricket and has been in the top ten in ICC rankings for a long time consistently. Most of the time in limited overs cricket he bowls even better than Saeed Ajmal and Shahid Afridi. Look at him as a bowler who can bat very well. In fact he is much better than Fawad Alam as a batsman. Fawad Alam has failed again and again when ever he was given a chance and has severe flaws in his technique as well. Dont play Hafeez as an opener where his poor technique is exposed. Play him in the middle order as an all rounder. This way he wont face the swinging new ball and you will see he will be successful. Hafeez doesnt deserve all this criticism after performing so many times for his country. Most of the sides in the world will like to play him as an all rounder in limited overs cricket. Dont blame Hafeez if team management plays him as an opener.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 7:34 GMT)

He is only Homeopathic Professor.. Just for T20 and ODI's .. There is no effect no side effect situation as he scored 15 or 20 n took 1 or 2 wickets ....

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 7:00 GMT)

He s got out playing in slips so many times this year yet doesnt admit the fact that he has technical issues. Understanding the problem is the first step in eliminating it. For some one known as a "Professor" he surely can be naive.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 6:50 GMT)

Dear, Hafeez is not willing to face Morkel and steyn this time so he may himself want to be dropped. even it is said that misbah may be rested and afridi will lead the team against south africa.. . is south africa a minnow? why they r resting misbah? why hafeez didnt admit it for the zimbabwe tour (a younger player could be tried against zimbabwe)? one may easily conclude that MISBAH and HAFEEZ are supposed to play and perform against teams like ZIMBABWE, BANGLADESH, WEST INDIES,, not against teams like SOUTH AFRICA, AND AUSTRAILIA..

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

He shouldn't be dropped now for SA series. Zimbabwean series was the time to drop him, now he is saving himself by saying all this. He knows that he will fail again against SA attack and he lacks the ability to play against swing. Now a new comer will be given a chance and God forbids he fails, hafeez will be selected automatically for Sri Lankan series. This series is not for testing new blood, Zimbabwean series was the best time to do that. Hafeez is playing his cards very cleverly. Selectors should also use their brains.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 5:58 GMT)

Guys, please mind the statement what Hafeez told there. He said "It happens with any big cricketer" doesn't mean he says that he is a Big Cricketer. He was trying to explain 'It happens with any big cricketer "and how about me? being a beginner stage" People can make out any meaning before a statement; but its not true from what they try to say. Knowing Mohd Hafeez is a good talented all-round player. It happens failure for sometimes for any cricketer when they couldn't keep their consistency. Even, Sachin was tried hard for his 100's Century; the pressure makes them weak at a time lack of consistency. Whatever the decision can make by Pakistan Cricket Board; it is welcome towards Cricketing future with Pakistan Cricket. Don't go for individual player or the country; being a sportsman we need to welcome all the talent from every national cricketer like Sachin, Lara, Sanath, Aravinda, Dhoni, Yuvraj Singh, Raina, Kevin Peterson, AB D, Mahela, Sanga, Misbah, Yunis Khan, Mohd Yusuf&Ganguly

Posted by sherishahmir on (September 26, 2013, 5:43 GMT)

As far Hafeez commitment is concerned no doubt he is giving 100 % all the time to the best of his abilities, but as test format is concerned I don't think he is suitable as he is almost 33 yrs now and still struggling with the technique in test cricket, he should make decision like Afridi of quitting test cricket and limited to ODI and T20 formats.

Posted by siddhartha87 on (September 26, 2013, 5:28 GMT)

Hafeez!Big cricketer??? May be he should drop some arrogance to perform better.I think Pakistan should reconsider Taufiq Umar. Actually he is one of few sub continent player who averages more outside sub continent.(his average is 36 in subcontinent and 41 out side it).Regarding Hafeez it's not just about last two series. Thoroughout his test career he averages just 21 in 26 test outside subcontinent.Failing in 26 test matches can not be "It's not a matter of technique even, the ball is coming on to my bat but I am not able to play a big innings. It happens with any big cricketer". Pakistan selectors should understand this.If they want to give another chance then give it to Jamshed please. True he failed in South Africa but no one can deny the class of him.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 5:07 GMT)

The biggest joke here are the people saying Drop Hafeez because they were the same people that loved him and wanted him as a captain when he use to play well about a year and half ago. Hafeez is a great player he needs to work on his batting and that's about it. He bowls great,people don't realize the role he plays he replaced salman butt when he screwed over Pakistan and has done 1000 times better then any other opener at the time could do.Hes way better then Malik and Afridi. Now a days people are loving Afridi because now he is actually preforms . To me Pakistan has one of the worst fans in the world when someone preforms they love them and want them to be captain and when they do bad they want them out the teams.We need to start supporting our team and our players even when they preform bad.Preforming good or bad is apart of the game.

Posted by KhanSalman85 on (September 26, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

Asalam o Alekum....Hafeez bhai if u r big cricketer so y you not show your ability under Afridi & Misbah leadership... if you u not making runs in test so kindly request you please chance to other Young and energatic player also leave T20 format cricket...

@ Hassa Rafique Mir....Sir i want to say only one thing we Need Fighter cricketer in Our National team. Shahid bhai always try to do his 100% in fielding bowling and batting and also motivate junior Player.

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 4:13 GMT)

Hafeez says he is a "big cricketer". The joke of the year!

Posted by Mikhail.Sajjad.Azhar on (September 26, 2013, 3:30 GMT)

"Big Cricketer" are you kidding!! Even Zimbabwe won't pick you in there playing eleven, especially against South Africa.

Pakistan cricket has gone rock bottom since club level player like Hafeez has taken charge. His technique is a main problem but he will never accept it. This is a sign of clear arrogance.

Mr professor, No matter what you think of yourself, big or biggest cricketer, you will always remain a bunny of Steyn!!

Posted by omar_choudhary on (September 26, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

Enough with Fawad Alam. I am sick and tired of that name. 'Maybe we should have Fawad Alam for tests,' 'Fawad Alam is the answer to our batting crises,' Fawad Alam is this and that... He has a poorer technique than Hafeez. He can't even stand straight when batting, what on Earth is wrong with you people... He looks as though he can't even clear the boundary... Fawad Alam playing first class is for the better of Pakistan cricket. Do not even mention him anywhere near the national team!

Posted by   on (September 26, 2013, 2:50 GMT)

Can any tell me how is hafeez a big cricketer?, No , not at all , you must be in deillusion man, just ponder over your progress you are ebrassing yourself and your countery . So you should quit this long version ,in which you are big zero ,however you can play that circus i,e t20 , in which you can hit some runs by luck . You are simply a medicore player who some how happen to play this cricket otherwise your credintels are plane absymal ,..

Posted by FahadNazir on (September 26, 2013, 2:13 GMT)

Ohh and I am terribly sorry for not mentioning The Poll from Cricinfo Home Page. Should Mohammad Hafeez be dropped from the Test team? Results Yes 87.84% 20884 Please stay away from tests till you play enough First Class like all other Great Crickters. :)

Posted by FahadNazir on (September 26, 2013, 2:05 GMT)

Dear Hafeez, That is not the form or technique it is the mind set of every Pakistani cricketer. You guys play some good innings and when you feel that you have cemented your position in team, all of you give a heck to game. Please be professional and play for the team and country and above all for us"the Pakistani cricket fans" . If you are lost or confuse about how to play good cricket or how to be a good sportsman/batsman then you better take inspiration from Mike Hussey, that man is Nelson Mandela of cricket, he knows what his strength and limitations are and he also knows what is expected of him, and by God he always delivered.

Posted by NaduLal on (September 26, 2013, 0:24 GMT)

Drop him! Hafeez may score a century in next series and may score few more runs as the next couple of series are in Subcontinent wickets and he is flat track bully. But as soon as Pakistan plays the away series he will choke again in seaming and swinging tracks. Plus he doesn't have a technique and temperament for the longer format.

Posted by aks1987 on (September 26, 2013, 0:09 GMT)

I cannot believe that we donot have any one to replace Hafeez from the 18 million people in Pakistan. FIND ONE !

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 23:38 GMT)

Taufeeq shud gt chance.he is better player den hafeez nd I dnt fink rahat Ali deserve a place in playing xi

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 23:31 GMT)

I would give him the credit for admitting to his poor showing unlike people like Shahid Afridi who say that there is no talent in Pakistan to replace him. If Afridi is playing as a bowler then there are many better than him, if he is playing as a batsman then again there are better than him , if he is playing as an all rounder then he is not performing at all and yes there a many better than him in that regard too. Hafeez never deserved that spot . I think Taufeeq or Nasir should be given a long run in the opening slot with Harris sohail, Sohaib, Umar Amin or Umar Akmal in the middle order. If players are selected on the basis of performance then I believe Shafiq needs to sit out a few matches too !!!

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 22:30 GMT)

hafeez is so scared of steyn :), he is asking selectors to drop him because he knows if he plays against SA his career might well be over.

Posted by t20cric on (September 25, 2013, 20:39 GMT)

Pakistan should give youngsters who average at least 40 in first class a chance in tests. Fawad Alam averages 50+, Harris sohail averages 50+, Umar Akmal averages almost 50, Sohaib Maqsood averages 40+,Nasir jamshed averages 40+, Ahmed Shehzad averages 40+, Sarfraz Ahmed averages 40+, Mohammad Rizwan averages 40+. Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Adnan Akmal, Taufeeq Umar, Mohammad Hafeez and Umar Amin all don't average even 40 in first class (although they are pretty close). So Pakistan should definitely give at least 5 of these guys a chance and it hopefully won't be so challenging on them cuz they will playing on batting friendly pitches of UAE. If Pakistan give players who average at least 40 in fc and are younger than 30 then selectors can say that they are selecting on merit or else its all just lies. If Pakistan gives these kind of talented players a chance then Pak can prove people wrong who think that Pakistan do not have any talent anymore.

Posted by amumtaz on (September 25, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

Admit it Hafeez. You are not in the league with Hanif Muhammad, Zaheer, Miandad, Yousuf, Younus or even Saeed Anwar. No not even in the same league as Majid Khan, Aamir Sohail, Rameez Raja, Wasim Raja, Mushtaq Muhammad, Asif Iqbal. Nope not even in the all rounder league of Imran, Wasim, Abdul Razaq, Mudassar Nazar or Shahid Afridi.

We are really not sure which big cricketer you compare yourself with. But certainly none of the greatest that have represented Pakistan.

Posted by t20cric on (September 25, 2013, 19:52 GMT)

Although Hafeez has admitted he is doing bad in tests it still isn't that satisfactory. He's saying things like "it's not a bad patch, it's not form too,it's not a matter of technique even, it happens with any big cricketer". It makes him sound arrogant and basically he is saying now that nothing is wrong with him it's just bad luck. It almost sounds like he got advice from someone to admit he was doing bad so selectors can have pity on him and still select him. As for being a bad patch that's probably his whole test career, when it comes to form then he was never really in form in tests, his technique is clearly lacking and he is just ignoring it, lastly he is definitely not a big cricketer. When someone says a big cricketer people like Wasim, Miandad, Inzamam,Yousuf, Waqar and Imran come to mind not hafeez or Misbah (1000x better then hafeez). Hafeez is a bad player and he really hasn't admitted anything he must first understand something is wrong with his technique to correct it.

Posted by t20cric on (September 25, 2013, 19:39 GMT)

I think Hafeez should be dropped now even he accepts that he is doing bad in tests. In 66 innings he has only scored 13 innings of 50+ (5 centuries, 8 half centuries) thats pretty bad for a player who bats in top 3. I hope whenever the squad is announced they decide to drop hafeez, azhar and asad maybe even adnan and add young talents. Misbah's captaincy is also worrying cuz i think his over defensive captaincy may have caused Pakistan to struggle but no doubt he is a great batsman. I'm not sure y people are saying all the time that Pakistan do not have talented youth. They definitely do but they aren't getting a chance. Many cricket experts actually say that Pakistan, Sri Lanka and West Indies are filled with naturally talented players but all 3 countries are doing so well today. The reason is that these countries aren't giving the talents a chance and are happy with the senoirs. As well these talented players dont get proper facilities. If these 3 do this stuff they will be top teams

Posted by zarasochozarasamjho on (September 25, 2013, 19:21 GMT)

Hafeez is OUT. We don't care whether he complains or retires or cries. We have had enough of this sub-standard player. Good test batsme do not average 11 in 10 test innings. He will always remain a mediocre player as he never attempted to even change his strokes, footwork, stance, etc to deal with his batting problem. Same old rubbish style from Day 1. Good riddance!

Posted by Sports4Youth on (September 25, 2013, 19:20 GMT)

Thank you Mr.Hafeez for admitting atleast so much. But as we all know, now you are a fixture in the team and the board is planning to groom you as the next captain simply becasue the board wants to keep Afridi away and for that they are willing to pay any price SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU WILL CONTINUE, NO MATTER WHAT.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 19:19 GMT)

At his age he is never going to be come a batsman, with an ego that is evident from his choice of words and his team selection. He would be a bad captain and would ensure his team keeps on losing the crunch matches as he himself is not in the league of world class players. Admit it Hafeez its not Test Cricket alone, you stink at all three formats and if it was not for you politics,you would have been playing Tape ball club cricket at Faisalabad. Your absence would ensure that Abdul Razzaque, Afridi and other genuine big hitters would be playing all three formats of cricket. If Pakistan needs to find a winning combination they need to go back to playing county cricket or cricket in South Africa and Australia especially for the batsman but ironically the Pakistani batsman cant even play off spin, Leg spin or left arm spin. Thanks to mediocrity that Hafeez personifies.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 18:45 GMT)

I think he doesnt deserve a place in tests. in t20 and odis yes he is a value player. a good bowler and can solve pakistan problems in bowling. This is visible in rankings.

But for tests he is simply not. we cant have him as a bowler as some people are suggesting that series will be in UAE. Pakistan's weak batting line up can not afford to go with 5 bowlers ( if he is in for bowling ).

He does not bowl that much in tests any way.

It is better to make some decisions. from ZIM tour not only hafeez but adnan and asad's place should also be decided. Rizwan might be a good choice as keeper. Asad has also failed. Azhar played 1 innings in 4. but they may not find his replacement so soon.

Toufeeq has had good last year. scored a 200 but had injury in SA tour. he should be fit. Fawad alam is also a good option in tests.

Posted by Lach-Ferragh on (September 25, 2013, 18:42 GMT)

"It's not a matter of technique even, the ball is coming on to my bat but I am not able to play a big innings. It happens with any big cricketer."

LOOOL, my god. This just sums it up. Delusion of the highest order mixed with compounded ignorance. Not only does he believe that his technique is not sound, but the man believes himself to be a "big cricketer".

Symptomatic of Pakistan cricket really. In denial.

Posted by PAK_CricFan on (September 25, 2013, 18:27 GMT)

M. Hafeez should be dropped but i think he will make it to the Test squad as the series is going to be played in UAE where seam/swing bowling is never going to be any trouble. my advice for M. Hafeez is that he should try his luck in english domestic season which will help him to be at best of his talent. Zaheer Abbas/ Imran Khan/ M. yousaf(played league) learn the skills to battle with swing/seam in england and become impact cricketers, he should follow them.

Posted by mzm149 on (September 25, 2013, 18:25 GMT)

If we want to win this series, our selectors will have to make wise decisions and avoid inclusion of Hafeez, Khurram Manzoor and Imran Farhat in the squad. Khurram Manzoor performed a bit against Zimbabwe but his innings were not useful in the context of the game and he is not technically sound.

Nasir Jamshed should be given extended chances because he is the best opening batsman we have right now. He has a slight problem of sometimes losing his wicket after a good start. But test cricket is the best way to teach him how to stay at the wicket and how to make his technique even better. We are playing in subcontinent where Jamshed's record is quite impressive.

Rahat Ali should also be kept away from squad because he is quite raw and couldn't take much advantage of seaming and bouncing tracks of South Africa and Zimbabwe. Junaid Khan, Wahab Riaz and Umar Gul should be selected instead.

But we know our selectors. They will go with tried and tested failures once again.

Posted by KarachiKid on (September 25, 2013, 18:22 GMT)

One big innings away from getting settled ? his big innings means a pretty 34 on flatest of flat tracks. this score is decent in T20's, can be useful in ODI's but in tests this means that you are quite ordinary (at best). He is saying all BIG players have a bad patch. What makes him think that he is in the same league as big players like Inzi, Yousuf, Miandad or even Younus ? He is one extended bad patch (in tests) with a few good innings against Zimbabwe and Bangladeshi.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 18:18 GMT)

"One Big Inning" away since last 10 years or so

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 18:17 GMT)

Hafeez need to go for sometime and understand the test format.

Posted by EnglishCricket on (September 25, 2013, 18:05 GMT)

Hafeez is an ordinary player especially at tests.

Posted by muxa on (September 25, 2013, 17:55 GMT)

i dont think hafeez should be dropped from test squad specially against southafrica .. reason is that he is a left hander specialist bowler and southafrica has alot of middle order batsmen including miller,ingram ,duminy smith and r.peterson so hafeez should play as a third spinner rather than as an opener or one down batsmen

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

You go to school to learn and ensure that one day you will be able to earn you livelihood....You play ODI cricket to groom yourself for WC and major world tournaments but unfortunately under misbah we have won in bits and pieces but neither our players are groomed nor are we winning big events.our boys don't have platform like IPL to get used to pressure so intl exposure is all we have and we should give them a long run.aged guys like misbah will not win you world cups and to be fair everyone is relaxed in the drawing room because misbah is not a leader....leader is someone following whom is a pride for player....ALLAN BORDER,STEVE WAUGH,KAPIL DEV,IMRAN KHAN,CLIVE LLOYD and DHONI...these are the guys which not only win during their time but ensure CHAMPS are nurtured for the future... one can only wish we have a leader who can inspire our generation and pull pakistan out of this slump...ameen

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 17:43 GMT)

PCB needs to analyze and evolve, selection should be based on merit, and new talent players should be given a chance instead of using non-performing players again and again.

Test Team Fawad Alam Khurram Manzoor Azhar Ali Younis Khan Misbah ul Haq Umar Akmal Mohammad Rizwan Zulfiqar Babar Saeed Ajmal Junaid Khan Irfan / Gul / Rahat / Wahab / Ehsan

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 17:31 GMT)

Where on earth is Taufeeq Umar, he was the one who scored 236 against South Africa. Didn't see him after he got injured, is he still injured? whatever the case, he is the one to go for by a long long way, there is no one who can match him for the opening spot as yet.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

Introduce a new batsman in every game of South Africa Pakistan series see if anyone clicks and at the same time get a on job training. Avoid selecting player from the shorter format especially the openers.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

more then happy to see haffiz droped

Posted by The_Mystery_Ball on (September 25, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

I 100 % agree with StraightHit, unless Hafeez plays in counties he is not likely to improve. Scoring runs against high quality bowlers on green tracks is a great confidence booster. Hafeez should be open minded and accept that he is really vulnerable to seam bowling, there is always something to learn even for professors.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 16:39 GMT)

Umar akmal Should Be In For Hafeez

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

The problem with M. Hafeez is that he never actually identified himself, nor did he properly acknowledged his capabilities. He is an excellent all-rounder but only if he behaves like one. The proof can easily be witnessed in T20s. He is basically an aggressive batsman, who likes to play his shots. This is why he will never be a successful opener; neither in Tests nor in ODIs. He shouldn't play tests altogether and should come down at #6 or #7 in ODIs to realize his true potential.

Posted by JoshFromJamRock on (September 25, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

Reverse psychology or not, Hafeez should be dropped from the test team. He's obviously weak against the swinging ball. Either that or he bats at 6 in the team so that he'll face the ball when its at least 40 or so overs old. If he is to stay in the ODI team batting at 4 may be ideal for him as the ball stops swinging after 15 overs. In T20s he's an good opener and a very effective spinner so he should be opener.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

Question we should ask, what will happen misbah and Hafeez will do we have replacement for these players. As selectors or captain or coach are not giving chances to young players now for a long time we are hearing we dont have batting talent in Pakistan, then why these think tank do some thing about it. If a young player is selected for a tour but again he is not in playing 11. It happened so many times. Which show that Misbah as a captain is not confidant enough to try new combinations. Even in Onedays players are selected but not in playing 11. another point as a captain you should be able to determin the players ability like what number the young player perform well but again the young player is coming at number 5 or 6 when normally Pakistani team is under intense pressure. I am hopping the same thing again they will select a team with young player and then playing 11 would be again with the old faces.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 15:27 GMT)

great attitude here from Hafeez, admitting his short comings he should be dropped from the test team but remain in other formats I think he will bounce back with some domestic cricket under his belt.

Posted by asim229 on (September 25, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

I agree with ICCExpert that Misbah should be removed from ODI captaincy and Hafeez should be dropped from tests.I agree Misbah is improving his average day by day but the Misbah Hafeez combination is not working for pakistan team in the last 3 years because pakistan team is not progessing well under them.I know that people will start defending Misbah that without him we wont be able to make 100 and so on.If we can't make 100 without one batsmen than we should stop playing cricket.This is just negative thinking and there is better replacement for anyone in this world.I remember in 90s we used to change captain after every series loss so why are they scared to change captain.Also people keep blaming Farhat, Faisal Iqbal, Shoaib Malik for pakistan failure but these players dont even play in pak team anymore and how can Afridi be responsible for pak failure in tests?

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

I don't understand why everyone has forgotten about Taufeeq Umar, he is a far better batsman than Hafeez or Farhat, for me we've got openers in tests and their names are Khurram Manzoor and Taufeeq Umar, Hafeez should be in the shorter versions of cricket, but as far as tests are concerned, Taufeeq is a far better option!

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

hafeez just need to focus on odi and t20 cricket as a bowling allrounder.

Posted by CricketChat on (September 25, 2013, 14:29 GMT)

Hafeez should play (not sure if he does already) in Eng county circuit where he can face quality bowling to stay in form when Pak is not playing international cricket. He is playing T20 in different leagues, but it is no substitute for longer version.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:28 GMT)

nicknamed as the PROFESSOR, he is going to be the mainstay of the pakistani team when the likes of younis and misbah he rightly said, he is just one innings away from establishing himself in test cricket...added to that his bowling is also a big boon for the pakistani team...i think he must be given one more chance to prove his credentials.....

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (September 25, 2013, 14:22 GMT)

no one should be surprised if Shaoib Malik, Farhat and faisal Iqbal are selected.

Posted by Pak_Guru on (September 25, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

Every 2nd person in Pakistan is ready with his team for every format, its really funny to see favorite eleven by so many Pak team followers. Push Hafeez down the order in Test, he is very important to the team with his bowling in sub continent wickets. Groom Umar Akmal for a permanent WK batsmen in all formats, the country is short of talent. Hammad Azam should be allowed to play ODI and T20. Apply these and see the difference.

Posted by Engr_Khan on (September 25, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

Hafeez SHould be droped from test team as well as oneday and drop from captaincy as well and just play as an ordinary player in T20 only or ICC should changeT20 to 10-10 over cricket for Hafeez only so that he can make some runs there and become a so called number one all rounder.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

hafeez is ok for one day and T20 but for tests a clear no.. younus should be there in both test and one day at any time.

TEST XI taufeeq, farhat, younus, azhar, misbah, asad, adnan, ajmal, umar gul. junaid, rahaman

one day XI shehzad, jamshed, hafeez, younus misbah umar akmal, afridi, ajmal gul, junaid khan mohammad irfan

Posted by Jda123 on (September 25, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

He should be dropped from Test, he is a T20 player.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (September 25, 2013, 14:16 GMT)

i will stop wathing cricket for two reasons 1. If hafeez gets slected for test. 2. If Misbah continues with the captaincy of the one day side. Youngsters need to be given a chance, bring in Sharjeel Khan, Sohaib Maqsood, Hammad Azam etc

Posted by Engr_Khan on (September 25, 2013, 14:15 GMT)

That is now the mentality of Pakistan selectors to select kind of players like Hafeez. I never saw such an opering batesman who average was 17 and then by playing him on dead pitches like UAE, average increaed to 27. He is only 10-15 run player and his average cannot be more then 27.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (September 25, 2013, 14:14 GMT)

If Hafeez was a player of 80's and 90's he wouldn't be even a part of Pakistan B team, forget about national team and "A" team. A player like Hafeez given so much importance shows the affairs of Pak cricket and their selectors.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

i think jamsh3d should play all the tests coming up!

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

why admit when everyone saw how Zimbabwe played better allround cricket and barring stalwarts like misbah and younis it wud have been second whitewas for pakistan in africa after 3-0 loss in sa.hafeez will be find it difficult to be included in bangladesh or zimbabwe side.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (September 25, 2013, 14:06 GMT)

when will pak selectors understand the word SPECIALIST. they need different set of players for one dayers and tests. Drop Misbah and Hafeez from One dayers, let people like Sohaib Maqsood, Sharjeel Khan, Umar Amin, Hammad Azam drafted in one dayers. With Afridi as there captain

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

pcb selectors should drop him from test..and if he not perform well in odis against south Africa. he should drop for odi squad to.just retain him in t20 bcz thats his game.his technique is fully select the best option

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

that's the problem with Pakistani players they think they are one good inning away from bring around in the team for another year or so they never care about performing for the team or winning for the country. Every match that Pakistan played in last 3 to 4 years no one would think they will win forsure even if they had to make 25 runs in 10 overs with only 4 wickets left until the last bowl was bowled. i think they need to replace 5 to 6 players and bring in new player who have performed at domestic level

Posted by Ramu444 on (September 25, 2013, 14:03 GMT)

He should be played at no 6 as that position is still vacant as I do not think Asad sharia has wat it take to be a no 6 batsman.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

he is in the team for last 12 years and still he thinks he is out of form with average of 35.

Posted by muxa on (September 25, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

i dont think hafeez should be dropped from test against southafrica.. well the reason is dueto the 6 or 7 left handers in southafrica squad(smith,ingram,duminy,maclaren,peterson,tsotsobe) he will be more than handy handy with the ball as he is the left hander specialist ,, don't forget the 3-0 against england hafeez got straus and cook early on many occassion

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

This is not the best thing Hafeez could have done. He is not a "big cricketer" when it comes to Test cricket. He has a very faulty technique square of the wicket both sides without which you can not be successful in FC cricket. He averages only 34 which is not "big cricketer" material. Poor showing, need to take responsibility and go to NCA to workout the issues.

Posted by immi2711 on (September 25, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

@ Umar Farooq ..... so appropriate choice of words "Dale Steyn's bunny"

Dale Steyn owned him, and treated Hafeez like a step child. In response, instead of stepping up to the challenge and take Dale on, Haffez buckled up. You dont do this in professional cricket. When you become professional in any sports/thing, it is expected that you have some "oomph" to carry the professional tag. But Hafeez has not shown any since England test match. He is not good but descent in short format, but would not call him a shoe in or auto selection in even short format.

He is like Afridi, his balling has improved, but his batting has slowly diminished.

Posted by fayyaz03 on (September 25, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

After the horrible trips of SouthAfrica, England & Zimbabwe, we Pakistanis atleast dont want to see Umer Akmal & Fawad Alam being ignored in any format. Both are brave batsmen with sound technique, great fielders, and future of Pakistan Cricket. At least we can believe that even if they dont have the experience to compete, but surely have the guts to look in the eyes of Dale steyn.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

I am sure most Pakistani fans (myself included) will be EXTREMELY happy to see Hafeez dropped from the test team. He simply has no technique to play any swing bowling, and is a flat track batsman. The main thing is, there is nothing wrong with that. Most 20/20 and ODIs are played on dead tracks now, and Hafeez can excel in those formats. However, his problem is his technique (despite what he thinks), he will NEVER be a good test batsman until he actually realizes his technique is horrible, and starts to work to improve it.

Glad to see him dropped from tests, but continue to excel in 20/20 and ODI.

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

Come on Pakistani Selectors! Please do not select him in Test Format. He is not even internation class batsman in One-Dayer as well but due to lack of Talent in Pakistan batting, he will remain alive in limited overs; otherwise he is under standard on International level. Just suppose if he is playing cricket in 1990s, he will never get the chance on international level.

Posted by mzm149 on (September 25, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

Playing XI for tests should be

1. Nasir Jamshed 2. Taufeeq Umar 3. Azhar Ali 4. Younus Khan 5. Misbah ul Haq (c) 6. Umar Amin 7. Adnan Akmal / Umar Akmal (wk) 8. Umar Gul / Wahab Riaz / Irfan 9. Saeed Ajmal 10. Abdur Rahman / Zulfiqar Babar 11. Junaid Khan

Playing XI for ODIs should be

1. Ahmed Shehzad 2. Nasir Jamshed 3. Umar Amin 4. Umar Akmal (wk) 5. Harris Sohail 6. Misbah ul Haq (c) 7. Mohammad Hafeez 8. Saeed Ajmal 9. Zulfiqar Babar / Raza Hassan 10. Junaid Khan 11. Irfan / Wahab Riaz / Umar Gul

Playing XI for t20s should be

1. Ahmed Shehzad 2. Mohammad Hafeez (c) 3. Umar Akmal (wk) 4. Harris Sohail 5. Sohaib Maqsood 6. Shahid Afridi 7. Hammad Azam 8. Raza Hassan 9. Zulfiqar Babar 10. Sohail Tanvir / Umar Gul 11. Mohammad Irfan / Ehsan Adil

Posted by   on (September 25, 2013, 13:38 GMT)

at least he admit. now give abdul razzaq a chance

Posted by Baba_Sehgal on (September 25, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

"It's not a bad patch, it's not form too," "It's not a matter of technique even", well said by Hafeez since he is never in form, and has no technique. And he couldn't possibly go through any worse patch. Even Zimbabwe wouldn't pick him as their opener.

Posted by ReverseSweepIndia on (September 25, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

can we spared the torture of seeing your batting in tests? Pak selectors are missing a trick by not playing Fawad Alam. As little as I have seen of him, he looked pretty good in technique. Then he was drafted in T20 which I don't think is his favorite place. But thats the problem with selectors world over and more particular with Pak selectors. I remember Yousuf playing well in tests in Eng and on basis of that putting him in T20 squad too. From ODI's you can graduate to tests (success is not guarantee) but taking someone from T20 to tests is unwarranted. And Hafeez at best a very good T20 player and good ODI player. Thats it.

Posted by RANA1610 on (September 25, 2013, 13:24 GMT)

"It happens in cricket, you try your best but sometimes you can't perform in a particular format." But he has been doing bad performances for last three years.

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