Australia in South Africa 2013-14

Bailey axed, Marsh back in Test squad

Brydon Coverdale

January 20, 2014

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'Bailey less suited to South Africa bowling attack' - Inverarity

George Bailey has been axed from Australia's Test squad after playing in all five Ashes victories this summer, with Shaun Marsh and Alex Doolan included for the upcoming tour of South Africa. Australia's selectors have named a 15-man squad for the three-Test tour, which begins in early February, with Marsh, Doolan, James Pattinson, Jackson Bird and James Faulkner included from outside the Ashes XI.

Bailey was the only incumbent to lose his place after his inability to make a big score in any of the five Tests against England; he finished the series with 183 runs at 26.14. A weakness outside off stump caused Bailey some problems during the Ashes and the national selector John Inverarity said that the South African conditions were unlikely to help him, where he would have had to face Dale Steyn and Vernon Philander, the top two Test bowlers in the world on the ICC rankings.

"I think George's contribution to the Ashes victory was very significant," Inverarity said. "He played an integral role there. It was a wonderful Ashes series and the 11 players knitted together really well and they were a very convincing unit. But going to South Africa, we think George is less suited to there against their attack and we've left him out and bolstered the batting with Alex Doolan and Shaun Marsh.

"[Doolan] has been on the radar for quite some time. We had him on standby in the fifth Test in Sydney and he's now come into the squad of 15. Those of us who have seen us play … he looks a very good player - good technique, time, he plays pace bowling well - so we're hoping that he'll really flourish in this environment."

Doolan, 28, is the only uncapped player in the squad and will be battling with Marsh for a place in the top six for the opening Test in Cenutrion. Doolan had a breakout Sheffield Shield season last summer but this year has managed 391 runs at 39.10. However, his Shield form has been superior to that of Marsh, who this season sits 34th on the Shield run tally with 248 runs at 31.00, including only one fifty-plus score - it was a century - from his nine innings.

Ten days ago, Marsh described his Shield form as "really inconsistent this year" and declared that there were "a lot of guys ahead of me" in the Test queue, but the selectors seem to have disagreed. Marsh has scored half-centuries in the first two ODIs against England, although Inverarity said the squad was picked before Sunday's game, and he does have South African Test experience, having played there on the 2011-12 tour.

"He's in a good space at the moment, Shaun," Inverarity said. "He's playing well. We all know that when Shaun plays at his best, he's a very good player. It seems to us that he's in that space at the moment ... That first Test match that he played in Cape Town, when Australia were eventually bowled out for a very small total. In the first innings, Michael Clarke made a century and Shaun made 44 and played exceptionally well against that attack."


Shaun Marsh scored 81, Sri Lanka v Australia, 3rd Test, SSC, Colombo, 1st day, September 16, 2011
Shaun Marsh is back in the Test frame for the first time in two years © AFP
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Inverarity said Marsh, Doolan, Bailey and Phillip Hughes were the four contenders for two batting spots. Hughes can count himself unlucky to have missed out given that in the current Shield summer he has scored three centuries, including one double-hundred, and in his five Test appearances in South Africa he has averaged 53.00, including a score of 88 in the last Test Australia played there on the 2011-12 trip.

Hughes was dropped from the Test side after the defeat at Lord's in July, despite the fact he had made an impressively mature 81 not out in the first Test at Trent Bridge when Ashton Agar nearly scored a hundred on debut. Since his axing, Hughes has made 671 first-class runs at the average of 61.00 from 11 innings, including a double-century and two other tons this Sheffield Shield season.

Marsh, by comparison, has scored most of his runs in the shorter formats. Since he was dropped from the Test side in January 2012, he has made 675 first-class runs at 25.00.

The make-up of the attack was less tricky for the selectors, with Mitchell Johnson, Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle and Nathan Lyon all the natural choices after their success in the home Ashes campaign. The addition of Faulkner, the perennial 12th man during that series, was no surprise either, which left them choosing two backup fast men from Bird, Pattinson and Nathan Coulter-Nile.

Inverarity said it was a close call but the selectors believed Pattinson could be a valuable member of the squad if he is able to continue making good progress on his return from a back injury. Pattinson made his return to the national side during Sunday's one-day win over England at the SCG.

"He's been making very good progress during the last six weeks," Inverarity said. "Last night I thought he showed some very good signs and we've still got three or four weeks to go. He's on the upward curve and at his best he's a very good bowler."

Test squad Michael Clarke (capt), Brad Haddin (vice-capt), Jackson Bird, Alex Doolan, James Faulkner, Ryan Harris, Mitchell Johnson, Shaun Marsh, Nathan Lyon, James Pattinson, Chris Rogers, Peter Siddle, Steven Smith, David Warner, Shane Watson.

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Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 16:03 GMT)

The bold declarations by Clarke and aggressive Runrate of above 4.0 average in most innings with a lethal bowling combination tilts the series in favour of Aus. The only area where SA scores over Aus is in the Top 5 batsmen spot. Amla, DeVilliers & Duplessis have good Test match temperament and can bat for long on Day5 to save the Test, whereas Warner, Watson & Marsh are T20 specialists who play loose shots and it's left upto Haddin, Smith & Johnson to resurrect the Aussies. Moreover a good series on the card, provided Rain doesn't play a part.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 15:51 GMT)

The upcoming Aus tour of SA will be a cracker.A Test series of closely matched teams eager to be at Top spot.SA definitely have the Home advantage suited to their Pace attack. But you cannot judge a series by recent records. Agreed, Aus had a poor run in the early part of 2013 with losses in England and India. When Aussies are on a role, they mean business.Removing 100 wickets of the opposition in a 5-0 whitewash is by no means"A Fluke". I'm sure Darren Lehmann and his men will apply the same strategy against SA. Pace attack of both sides is equally balanced but Aus have more versatility with Nathan Lyon. Johnson's bouncers are more intimidating to a well set batsman than that of Morkel and Harris and Siddle compliment him well with variations. Also Pattinson can fill the slot in case any 1 gets injured whereas SA don't have a good backup for Steyn-Philander-Morkel.One side goes on an All out attack, the other is satisfied in a draw as seen in J'burg against India.

Posted by NixNixon on (January 22, 2014, 12:00 GMT)

SA vs AUS pace attack. Johnson Matches: 56 SR: 51.5 Siddle Matches: 51 SR: 58.6 and Harris Matches: 21 SR: 46. Steyn Matches: 69 SR: 42 Morkel Matches: 53 SR: 56.5 and Philander Matches: 20 SR: 39.6.

Not only individually do the SA bowlers beat their Aus counterparts but also as a team:

Aus pace trio in 128 games take wickets at a strike rate of 52.03 / SA pace trio in 142 games take wickets at a strike rate of 46.03 So what now... for me its looks more even that as mcdermot has said that Aus has a better attack.

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 5:50 GMT)

Hughes must feel disappointed as he has outscored Marsh & Doolan over the past 12 months. He also has form against South Africa. Unless Bird really has come back a yard or two quicker, Coulter-Nile is entitled to feel hard done by. Otherwise the squad picks itself. This will be a difficult away series against a team who really do have the best bowling line-up in the world. Kallis is a big loss but if Australia continues to be 5 for bugger all against South Africa the tail won't wag as consistently against Steyn & Co. I like the look of our pacemen though, so it will be interesting to see how they handle the Proteas' batting line-up. One thing you can be sure of though - Clarke won't be advising Steyn about the likelihood of his arm being broken!

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 5:45 GMT)

Hmmmm.... I think now Watto can be dropped to 6.

-Rogers -Warner -Marsh -Clarke -Smith -Watson -Haddin -Johnson -Harris -Siddle -Lyon

Posted by   on (January 22, 2014, 2:43 GMT)

The difference in this series might be the the quality of the side's 2 spinners. As everything seems an even match up - ignoring South Africa's slightly better batting lineup - but the loss of Kallis might be felt in the middle order.

Posted by Adoh on (January 22, 2014, 1:41 GMT)

I think the important question is: Why does Inverarity get a stand named after himself and Bryce McGain doesn't? Both contributed equally to test cricket.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 21, 2014, 23:56 GMT)

I for one have not been calling for Marshes return, His batting has looked solid for the first couple of ODI, but he has the same problem as Watson... they find the fielders far to often especially early in their innings, the other night Marsh was hitting them out of the middle straight to a fielder, IMO he should have scored a ton, they end up getting out with around 30 to 70 runs on the board but miss out on 20 to 30 runs every time.

Posted by spindizzy on (January 21, 2014, 22:54 GMT)

No real mention over the Painson selection here, how was he selected over Coulter-Nile? He has no form for the last year and looked pretty toothless in his last couple of matches. Surely he should have to demonstrate form for an extended period first.

Posted by stormy16 on (January 21, 2014, 17:01 GMT)

Surprised with Marsh selection but he is experienced and needs to be tested again after all he made a hundred on debut. Also surprised that Kuwaja was not part of the equation. I would have gone for Coulter-Nile over Bird and Faulkner is a good prospect, especially if Watto gets injured. Glad to see Pattinson back in the team and I even saw Cummins for the scortches the other day. Bailey wasnt a sound selection (bashing runs on flat tracks in Indis was never a basis for an Ashes game) and having been given the opportunity he didnt show much. Aus needs to groom another Hussey - yes long shot but someone needs to be groomed in to the position and another 30+ player is not the way forward. Its possible for Marsh or Doolan to bat in the all important #3 spot and Watto bat in Baileys spot.

Posted by Beertjie on (January 21, 2014, 15:49 GMT)

Love your Hughes Hick-analogy, @runout49 on (January 21, 2014, 7:26 GMT): "I have a feeling Hughes will be remembered as the Hick of Australian cricket. Great first class record but struggles at the Test level." Never been a fan of his, but if he gets another go he really needs to take it with both hands.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 14:35 GMT)

Poor selection... Show some extended faith in a youngster and proves despite a lean spell and a pool initial test average that he can score runs when it matters and cement a place in the team (Steve Smith). So Hughes gets culled after an obviously dismal series in India and he seems to be out of the selectors minds now. Let us remind ourselves of the Indian pitches - may as play on a dirt road - and that Hughes does have a deficiency against spin. I'm pretty sure a certain (current) Australian captain showed deficiencies against the shorter pace ball which led to his undoing after he was reselected and then not dropped.

Hughes first class record speaks for itself. If you're still not convinced about the argument to give Hughes an extended run, how about younger batsmen finally starting to crawl out of the woodwork? Nic Maddinson and Joe Burns are fantastic candidates, and if you're wanting 'experience' how about selecting Marcus North who has absolutely punished teams.

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 21, 2014, 13:47 GMT)

I am starting to lose confidence in Inverarity. His performance of late has been below par.

I think he should be replaced with someone who: (1) does not speak to the public like Sir Humphrey Appleby and (2) selects players for the test team based on their recent form in the long format and with a bias toward younger players

Posted by jw76 on (January 21, 2014, 12:35 GMT)

Bailey obviously sledges better than he bats, so good riddance.

Posted by antselector on (January 21, 2014, 10:29 GMT)

Lets not forget SA without Kallis.... I think he will be like Picasso or Hendrix- not fully appreciated worldwide until he is gone. Ultimate scenario- Clarke loses the toss in the first test and has to bowl on a 50/50 wicket. Mitch/ Harris and Siddle rip through SA and gives our suspect batting a chance to build a big lead. Our bowling attack is the real deal, especially Harris and Siddle who have been awesome without the glamour of Mitch, and they can all bat.

Aussies success in SA will come down to our batting playing to potential and not having those clump of 3-4 wicket in short succession. Bowling is world class and poor Pattinson and Bird may not even get a chance, but what good backups.....

Posted by Meety on (January 21, 2014, 10:13 GMT)

@Chris_P on (January 20, 2014, 18:44 GMT) - it just really gets on my nerves, the armchair ride he gets. What did Voges do to not get selected? He averages 45 in ODIs & has now missed out on a chance of dining on a beaten attack. It just sends a bad message, Andrew Symonds didn't get that many 2nd chances for discipline & he got stamped never to play again - what does Marsh have to do to be rubbed out of the game. Probably commit manslaughter! If Marsh plays Tests v SA - I wish him the best, but he shouldn't be within 1,000 miles of the test team. If they want to pick "bad boys" - why not Pomersbach - at least he has real form in the Shield.

Posted by antselector on (January 21, 2014, 9:53 GMT)

There seems to be a lot of debate over these selections but the issue is that Australia is about to meet the best pace attack in the world over the past few years. Baily has not performed and his technique has been exposed against a luke warm English attack. He would not survive against SA. Phil Hughes has had a great shield season, but lets not forget he has now had 3 separate chances in the baggy green and still not cemented his place. We need to test Doolan or Marsh and see if one of them can take the opportunity. The batting order is still suspect and I believe it will remain that way until a 'proper' no.3 is found. Watson deserves his spot for sure, but believe it should be at 6. This way he can bowl more overs have recovery time before being required to bat. Being hot and cold is more acceptable at 6 rather than 3.

Bowlers- well what a blessing to have so much depth. Johnson, Harris and Siddle have been amazing and intrigued to see how Lyon performs

Posted by ozwriter on (January 21, 2014, 9:42 GMT)

i think a good decision by the selectors. bailey is very likeable but just didnt perform. would have taken khawaja instead of doolan though.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 21, 2014, 9:32 GMT)

"Marsh at his best is a very good player". I agree, I've seen him bat like a very good player once.

Posted by cricket_tragic99 on (January 21, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

I assume when people say 'Hughes' should be in the side that they are refering to the former Aus test batsmen in Kim Hughes. Surely they do not mean Phil Hughes.

Posted by runout49 on (January 21, 2014, 7:26 GMT)

I have a feeling Hughes will be remembered as the Hick of Australian cricket. Great first class record but struggles at the Test level.

Posted by cccrider on (January 21, 2014, 7:25 GMT)

So a guide for Sheffield Shield batting form by the genius selectors is: If you are killing it in the first 5 performers, you will obviously be found out at the next level. In contrast, if you are in the top 40 batsmen, and averaging 30, you need a challenge and will blossom at the next level.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (January 21, 2014, 7:12 GMT)

Still can't believe people are questioning Watsons place in the team. He gives the team balance. If you replace him with a batsman, you go in a bowler short. If you replace him with a bowler, you become a batsman short. He is only batting at 3 at the moment because there is no one else putting there hand up. When he scores big, his critics say that it didn't matter anyway - he can't win. His tight bowling adds pressure and allows Clarke the luxury of not over-bowling the other guys. Give it a rest. I'm still sickened by the Marsh descision, as I feel either Hughes or Warner could've been groomed for the no3 spot.

Posted by AussieSam on (January 21, 2014, 6:54 GMT)

@land47: You make a good point about breaking up the team, it's a shame this has happened and also I feel bad for Bailey because he's such a great guy. But if we got away with carrying an underperforming batsman against England at home, we won't in this series. Bailey definitely has a technical issue with balls just outside off and if there is anywhere in the world that you can't have that problem it is in South Africa against a very good pace attack. Clearly he knows about this issue and hopefully he works on it and gets another chance - his strength against spin would be handy in UAE.

Marsh is very technically correct so he has a strong defense against pace (like a lot of batsman who grew up on the WACA) and Doolan has shown he can do well against the SA attack, even if that was on a reportedly benign SCG pitch.

I feel for Hughes too after he did so well in Shield but he's proven a couple times now you can't just go on Shield performance. He still has plenty of time though.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 21, 2014, 5:57 GMT)

@landl47 - I think the selectors are looking for a reliable long term number 3. The kind that can steady an innings and balance out the attacking batsmen and therefore help to stabilise the top order.

Posted by dillyk on (January 21, 2014, 5:43 GMT)

Nothing like ozzie misplaced bravado, one great series and suddenly it is a certainty that aus will walk the series in SA........... lol

Gonna be a tough hard series and ill be at centurion hoping we play the kind of cricket we have for the last 6yrs,..... aus will be hoping they play like they did for the last 6weeks

Posted by landl47 on (January 21, 2014, 5:41 GMT)

A bit puzzling- it's not as though Marsh or Doolan have demonstrated clear superiority to Bailey at any level. Aus did so well against England in part because of the great team spirit they showed. Why break up the unit for players who, on the face of it, are no better than Bailey?

Posted by RMCroos on (January 21, 2014, 5:40 GMT)

I would like to say to everyone shaun mark is a complete Batsman in this selection ACB is right give him a another chance ....but now its all depends on his profermance and luck...

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:29 GMT)

Australian XI for SA tour: 1 Warner/Marsh 2 Rogers/ Hughes 3. Smith 4. Clarke 5. Haddin 6. Bailey/Watson 7. Faulkner 8. Johnson 9. Harris/ Pattonson 10. Siddle/ Bird 11. Lyon. I would rotate the players like that and win the series.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:21 GMT)

South Africa will be awake up call for Australia

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 4:20 GMT)

Phil Hughes has used up all his chips. No chance of recall now.

Posted by Marcio on (January 21, 2014, 4:06 GMT)

Marsh has only averaged 25 runs an innings at state level since being dropped from the team for averaging 2.8 (yes, two-point-eight) versus India a couple of years ago. He has passed 50 only once this season from nine innings. He is ranked 34th in Shield batsmen this season. Hughes averages 61, North 98.

How does a repeated bad failure who is still repeatedly failing badly get into the test team?

Rather than state what everyone can see, I instead suggest that there needs to be a full investigation into this. These selectors need to be held accountable to the Australian public for this nonsense. You cannot reward failure. Bailey's inclusion was bad enough, but this is beyond belief.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 3:43 GMT)

Barnesy4444 says Phil Hughes has been hard done by. I don't agree - he's had lots of chances and hasn't delivered - at Test level. Surely there are other batsmen who can put their hand up rather than mooning over Hughes.

My thoughts on the series: Australia to win either 1-0 or 2-1. Australia is the better side but it is in SA. At home Australia would win all three Tests.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 21, 2014, 3:18 GMT)

Am I the only one that thinks the replacements picked Doolan and Marsh are in to bat at 4 (_possibly 3 with Wattoat 4 so Clarke gets to 5 and Smith 6. I reckon after the last series they have decided Clarke does his best work at 5.

Posted by   on (January 21, 2014, 3:11 GMT)

I don't know why everyone is so hung up over Hughes being left out of the squad. His preferred position is as an opener and he will be playing Sheffield Shield as an opener until Chris Rogers gives it away. When he comes back I guarantee you he will be dominant. Doolan is the better choice at 3, S.Marsh is too inconsistent in all forms to be any more than backup for the top 6. This should be Watson's last chance at Test level. He will play the first test at 6 and if he fails then Faulkner will come in at 7 while Haddin moves to 6 for the indefinite future. Pattinson is a good backup for Harris, likewise Bird for Siddle. Not sure what we will do if Johnson gets injured though. Should be a good series which will most likely be drawn, though if there is a result I'm leaning towards Australia since the loss of Kallis will be very disruptive to RSA's chances.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 21, 2014, 3:05 GMT)

If the selectors are making ridiculous decisions like picking Marsh, then Hughes is better off not going. Playing Shield rather than sitting in the change rooms will give him the chance to score even more centuries to add to his tally.

24 FC centuries and 68 scores over 50, and he's only just turned 25!! That's more FC centuries than Boof himself had at the same age!!

Posted by Dr.Qwert on (January 20, 2014, 22:57 GMT)

It looks like the might be positioning themselves to push Watson down the order bringing in 2 top order bats. When Watson was in doubt for the SCG test they would have needed to make 2 changes to cover him: Doolan and Faulkner in for Watson and Bailey. Watson would also be a good option to push things along with the tail.

If they're sticking to Watson at 3, then Hughes was a far better choice. He clearly has an appetite for runs and his technical deficiencies can be masked at 6, against an older ball and worn attack. His knock with Agar was one of the most mature innings seen by an Aus cricketer for a long time when it happened.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 22:51 GMT)

After the Aussies got everything right during the ashes its all gone back to r the usual muddled thinking? out of the 4 batsmen they chose the wrong 2 for the wrong reasons. Pattinson is a risk as well. As an England fan I can't help but feel disappointed that Australia got everything so right!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 22:00 GMT)

Marsh instead of Bailey ?? Are thee selectors out of their minds? Bailey has a better temperament than Marsh anyday and their techniques are comparable. Marsh's only big score came against a rebuilding SL bowling attack on a flattish pitch.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 20, 2014, 21:35 GMT)

TommyTuckerSA, Faf averages in the 30s is 1st class cricket even with test stats added. Your prior post implied such players were not good enough. I showed evidence from SA's own recent selections that contradicts this. Thus the point still stands. And FAf didn't defy "the Australian attack" in Adelaide. He defied three bowlers after Pattinson's injury after less than ten overs of the first innings and Watson's absence. And that on the best batting strip in world cricket. I make that to be three-fifths of the Australian attack. Most agree you need five bowlers to win in Adelaide.

Posted by vallavarayar on (January 20, 2014, 20:48 GMT)

A strong Aussie team. We shall wait for Smiths men to huff and puff!

Posted by Digimont on (January 20, 2014, 20:02 GMT)

Squad sends a clear message - Marsh and Doolan are #3s, so Watson will bat at 6 in the first test. Marsh will get the first go, Doolan is insurance.

Agree with Inverarity's comments re Bailey. He struggled at home outside off against pathetic England, little to no chance against Steyn and Philander in South Africa. Taking him would damage him, better he stays at home and works on the weakness. I see Bailey as a future part of the side, just not this tour.

Posted by seantells on (January 20, 2014, 18:49 GMT)

pattinson not a good selection , should give a chance to hazelwood he's a better bowler and Marsh again going to fail against SAF pace attack he's turned out to be a decent ODI n T20 player

Posted by Chris_P on (January 20, 2014, 18:44 GMT)

@Meety. That's a tough question. I'll go with failures as he can control what he does with his discipline away from the field. I am still stunned at his selection, & here I was thinking he was about to get dropped by the Western Australian team again for his poor form this season!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 17:39 GMT)

hughes has had enough chances.. how many times does he have to get out nicking? I think it says a lot about the bowling in shield cricket that he can score so many runs.. internationally they know how to get him out and do it at will

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 17:03 GMT)

Watson should take this SA tour as his last opportunity to be a consistent Test Player. I am quite sure the selectors have their eyes on him. If Marsh get runs, he will loose the number 3 position, and finally his place in the Test Team. The selectors have ignored Hughes once again, a big mistake. He has done nothing to deserve his omission.

Posted by iceaxe on (January 20, 2014, 16:37 GMT)

Surprised to see Bailey go. I thought he has been very good. Not taking anything away from Marsh, but perhaps Bailey should stay with Tests, and Marsh with ODI's? Time will tell how good/bad this decision is.

Posted by mainul079080 on (January 20, 2014, 16:37 GMT)

Feel sorry for Baily. What a series of amazing knocks he played against India in India.Most Aussies failed there miserably. He proved that he is a class player. He should have given consistent run.

Posted by CricketMaan on (January 20, 2014, 16:07 GMT)

Dale vs Steyn - Dale wins, Harris vs Phil - Phil wins in home conditions, Siddle vs Morkel - Morkel for snorters and Lyon vs Tahir/Robin - Lyon, Lyon and Lyon. With Jaques gone its Watto vs Watto. AB vs Haddin will be intresting with both in some superb form with gloves and bat! Smith vs Clarke - Clarke for his attacking instincts. Add in an inform Amla and rejenuvated Faf, SA looks very formidable. Warner vs Styen, Mitch vs Amla and Smith vs Harris will be something to look forward to.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 15:51 GMT)

To me, the choice made by the selectors is better, as they have retained almost all the players who were the part of Ashes whitewash, but keeping South African wickets in mind, they must have considered Phil Hughes as well as Ben Hilfenhaus since both of them had the lion's share of victory over S. africa in 2009.10 test series there. pat Cummins had a wonderful tournament last time,so such players should be selected as far as their performance over there is concerned..

Posted by lefthandopener on (January 20, 2014, 15:50 GMT)

Sa thrash Aussie 3-0 Aussie only wins at home ground

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (January 20, 2014, 15:50 GMT)

As an England fan, I cant help but think that with Australia's growing depth in batting, that the name Khawaja has not at all been mentioned. He was found out in England and I guess unless his performance improves, he wont be considered again.

I cant help but compare this to England;s plight, we're currently so weak in batting that we're considering bringing Bopara. Not to mention we have no spinner (Kerrgian, really?)whatsoever in the county system. All any bowlers with the ability to regular keep the pace upwards of 85mph. Dark days for England.

Posted by Beertjie on (January 20, 2014, 15:39 GMT)

Agree with your XI for the most part, @arup_g on (January 20, 2014, 10:19 GMT) but if you know the conditions in SAF (I do since I have just left Centurion), you might know that of the three test venues this is the only one where you could go with an all-pace attack: Pattinson for Lyon is on! SAF might go that way too by omitting Peterson there. However, Newlands and St George's require spinners and Aus will hope to win the toss and bat well there. Can they? Overcoming Steyn, Philander and Morkel on the first morning will require a mighty effort from Rogers & Co, but it this that will determine whether this lot will be compretitive or not. If they can post 350 in the first innings it will be game on. @Wefinishthis on (January 20, 2014, 2:57 GMT) - they won't want to prepare spinning tracks, but in high summer those 2 tracks can't help but spin!

Posted by social_monster09 on (January 20, 2014, 15:22 GMT)

Whatever the squad is or will be but this series will going to be a cracker. Bowling in present form is slightly goes in favour of Australia. Trio of Mitch, Siddle & Harris are create more threat for batsmen than Steyn, Morkel & Philander right now. Look at both series both Ashes series and SA vs India series, where Indian Batsmen made piles of runs in test matches. If Australia manage there batting performance well, as they shown in Ashes in Australia this will going to be a 2-1 series result in favour of Australia for sure. But this series will going to be a thriller for sure. Can't wait. What's ur prediction guys????

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 14:13 GMT)

I often praised this selection with high, I have been getting shocked by their selection as well. The fundamental rules to select any players based on domestic performance. Usman Kawaja and Phil Hughes were selected as per their domestic, and the latest gambling was the George Bailey. The earlier two were selected based on their Sheffield Shield performance, Bailey was not. Kawaja received minimum chance to grow, so as to Bailey. The selection process has a big question mark based on looking at their limited over where Bailey just failed. Why they did the same mistake for Shaun Marsh. I have every doubt that Shaun Marsh's technique is not better than Kawaja and he will not show anything better than Bailey. John I. should be stick on their selection long enough so that they perform. No question on Alex Doolan who has been a good performer in Sheffield shield.

Posted by screamingeagle on (January 20, 2014, 13:35 GMT)

SA for the win. Would be close, but still would be SA.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 13:18 GMT)

Australia has get their selection wrong for this SA tour, judging from the last tour down under Hughes has been good and better than most. Australia bating will definitely see some trouble down under.

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 13:06 GMT)

Has not Warner been messy outside the off stump recently? His last few Test and ODI innings have been kind of short though I do not remember how he got out in them. I shall filter the stats and if it fits the "character" limit. Let us hope he does not do that in

Posted by ToneMalone on (January 20, 2014, 12:52 GMT)

Difficult to argue with dropping George Bailey, I really hoped he'd make the grade but his technique isn't quite up to Test standard. He really should've made way for Alex Doolan in Sydney, so Doolan at least had a Test under his belt before South Africa.

Shaun Marsh is lucky but the selectors under Invararity have made enough right calls to back their instincts. It's not all about the averages, and there is something about Marsh that may yet lead to his Test career taking off.

I think Phil Hughes has been thrown into the fire enough times recently - he'll be back but now's not the time. In two years there'll probably be no Rogers, Watson, Clarke or Haddin ... no need to squeeze him in now.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 20, 2014, 12:45 GMT)

First XI, Rogers, Hughes, Warner, Clarke, Smith, Watson, Haddin, Johnson, Siddle, Harris, Lyon.

Posted by IrregularCricketFan on (January 20, 2014, 12:44 GMT)

The predictions, lets come back to this in the future haha

KEEP Michael Clarke (about to hit a form slump, will average less than 35) Brad Haddin (will do well with the bat, though there will be some bad glove work) Shaun Marsh (3 scores less than 20) Nathan Lyon (will cop a belting but will take key wickets) Chris Rogers Steven Smith (will struggle) David Warner (will be leading run scorer) Ryan Harris Mitchell Johnson James Faulkner (don't feel he has the class, but to beat SA you need a wildcard) Peter Siddle

LEAVE OUT James Pattinson (fitness) Alex Doolan (not good enough) Shane Watson (patchy at best, very overrated, put him in at number 6 if he must be included :( )

UNKNOWN Jackson Bird

Posted by righthandbat on (January 20, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

Let's examine this situation. Clearly Watson is to be removed from 3 and placed in 6 or 7. Personally I think 7 makes more sense as Haddin in such good form and wasted somewhat at 7, also it allows Faulkner if he replaces Watson to come in more easily. But for the sake of simplicity, let's say Australia are now putting someone at 6 - whether that be an all-rounder or a batsman. Let's say that Australia will definitely pick Watson at 6. Smith will remain at 5 and the openers will remain in their place. Clarke however, should stand up and say he wants to be a number 3 - and Australia should pick a more wise choice at number 4 - Cameron White. Chris Lynn would be an option as well but White provides so much more at this stage. Warner, Rogers, Clarke, White, Smith, Watson, Haddin is a strong batting lineup that is nearly the level of SA without Kallis. Doolan or Marsh may have a good series at 3 and prove doubters wrong, but their selection is not justified at this point in time.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 20, 2014, 12:41 GMT)

Yes Marsh is good to watch. When he's in long enough to actually score some runs!

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 20, 2014, 12:39 GMT)

Maybe the selectors are so confident of the same 11 playing all 3 tests, they want Hughes to stay here and score more centuries. Which I'm sure he will.

Hughes is hungry. This Shield season he will score 6 centuries, make 1200 runs at an average of 70 in 9 games. He will not take this laying down. All of his 3 centuries this season have been in the first innings, exactly the problem Australia's top order has, first innings runs!!!

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 12:33 GMT)

@oscoli67 Way to go Aussies! That is why I am a follower of Australian Cricket, They pull off the most amazing feats when least expected. Also, we have seven Australians in our team and about ten or twenty Indians/ assorted subcontinentals and only five Americans two white, three black. Australians scrap hard when threatened and though I think Hughes and Shaun should not feature in the the playing eleven, who knows? They are technically educated batsmen and Lehman (a scrapper in his own days) has worked miracles with team Australia and might induce the two to go out and do well? Being technically educated means a lot. If and when the US plays tests, she will have about ten bowlers who bowl faster than anybody in the world. And I hope the first team to find that out will be England! Now batting is tricky, in these times, Pakistanis, Indians seem to be doing better in that department as do our subcontinental batsmen...

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 12:27 GMT)

This is slightly hasty from CA to drop Bailey. Although his batting was not superlative, his performance as a fielder on short leg was phenomenal in the Ashes. In SA, they have to find someone with as good reflex to field in that crucial position. Remember why wade was preferred over Haddin in the previous SA series and although he scored runs, dropped a crucial catch which cost Australia the test match in Adelaide. Sometimes it's better to keep your hands off a successful team. You don't always notice what someone is contributing until they are not there.

Posted by smudgeon on (January 20, 2014, 12:24 GMT)

BradmanBestEver, Marcus North (Test history aside) would be a much better selection than Marsh!

Posted by smudgeon on (January 20, 2014, 12:18 GMT)

Very happy to see the inclusion of Alex Doolan - another fine Tassie lad (from Lonny, no less). Hope he take his chance if/when he gets it! On another note...would be nice to see Faulkner included if there is a good seam-y pitch prepared for one of the Tests. He did well in his debut, would be nice to see him tested against the world's best with the experience he's gained in his short ODI career. Exciting series coming up!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 12:11 GMT)

Was dropping Bailey the correct thing to do? Maybe/probably. Was replacing him with Marsh the correct thing to do? Um...

Just say it. Say 'Yeah well even though he averaged 2 against India, at home, against a poor bowling attack, we feel Shaun, um, well we like him and he is related to some of us and, well, the truth is that he's one of us and one of us will always be preferred against one of them."

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (January 20, 2014, 11:59 GMT)

I thought FC performance was the deciding factor? In that case Hughes should be there. No questions, he's been ripped off again.

Doolan averaging 39, Marsh averaging 31. I'm sorry but Hughes is the best batsman not in the test team BY FAR.

How does an average of 31 get a spot in the squad??????????

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 20, 2014, 11:56 GMT)

@ TheBigBoodha Nice of you to remove Faff's Test scores from his overall FC scores. Your comparison is immediately flawed. Last time I checked Test runs are included as FC runs.

To Answer your question if Faff is the future of SA cricket? Yes. Faff scored a big Ton on Debut by holding out Australia's bowling attack for 2 days in Adelaide - surely you haven't forgotten that? More recently he did it again and came actually breaking the World Record for a 4th innings runs chase against India. He has a lot of patience, determination and thrives under pressure - perfect for Test cricket.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 11:55 GMT)

Please Cricket Australia - let's not wait for Argus 2.0 to tell us the small rise and sharp fall in the ICC Test Cricket Rankings was due to the Chairman of Selectors having Anterograde Amnesia and not remembering anything that occurred since 2012 (it was a very good 44 though!)

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 11:53 GMT)

What does Phil Hughes have to do these days? Clearly the form batsmen out of all four, plus has great record in SA - there must be another reason behind the scenes for his constant omission. Would be nice if Inverarity could explain this.

Posted by mattboosa on (January 20, 2014, 11:52 GMT)

Joke! I really feel for Hughes. What more does he have to do? The rest of the squad looks great and will compete with South Africa who are starting to get some chinks in the armour (here's hoping). Either way, can't wait for more test cricket!

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 11:51 GMT)

@ Shaggy076 I am not aware of your friend "GSingh" and I wonder ehich "Talented Indian side" you refer to... There have been many. But the one I refer to is the one that played Steyn and CO. in South Africa and had the technic and discipline to stand up to them?. Please go thru the SA series again, India lost one test match because of one bad session. They came close to winning the firdt and drawing the second. And they did not have BIG Scary fast bowlers like Mitchell to help them. Perhaps you are referring to the one which had Shewag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar etc., who have been dropped or have retired since? Again, India lost to England in India because of one bad session. Only the captain and Virat Kohli and Ashwin survive from that team. And I am not comparing anyone to the subcontinent condition, 'Cause if you follow this forum very carefully, you might get the fact that Australia is touring South Africa, not India. Also, racist curry jokes are wasted on me, I am not Indian.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 20, 2014, 11:43 GMT)

The only reason I can think of for Marsh's presence is the WA connection - Invers and Rod Marsh on the selection committee. Contrary to what some here have suggested, Hughes probably missed out because he's not from WA. He's scored a lot more runs that Doolan or Marsh but isn't selected. He was also the leading scorer on the Ashes tour, even though he didn't play many tests.

Marsh averaged two in his last series vs India. At home. Vs the might of Ishant and Yadev.

Here's my interpretation of Invers' motivational talk to Marsh just before he walks out to bat in SA.

"He maketh me lie down in green pastures. He leadeth me beside quiet waters. He restoreth my soul. He guideth me in paths of righteousness ...." etc. etc.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 11:39 GMT)

@boomslanger this is not about Phil Hughes and it's not about failing to consider ODI or T20 form... It's about not ignoring such poor FC and Test form over a significant period of time. Remember a Test batsmen named George Bailey who could smash bowlers on flat pitches devoid of swing but failed repeatedly in Tests against a swinging ball outside off stump with a previous FC season averaging 18? The only FC statistic John Inverarity could draw on to justify Marsh's selection was a single Test innings of 44 made 2 years ago (ie, one innings of 8 runs less than Michael Clarke's average) - Marsh's selection is an absolute gee up!

Posted by Boytjie84 on (January 20, 2014, 11:34 GMT)

Decent team. Not near good enough to beat a dominant SA though!

Posted by oscoli67 on (January 20, 2014, 11:21 GMT)

What? The man who was lauding it about how the poms had been sent home one by one dropped ? Can this be true ? I suppose Lord Inverarity doesn't foresee there being a declaration bound slog on too often in South Africa. By George Phillander et al will be disappointed.

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 11:10 GMT)

@ rickyvoncanterbury This is an OZ SA match. BTW it was a weak Indian bowling attack that let India down. Not the case with the Aussies...Boy! If anything, the Aussies bowl faster and meaner! The crisis is with batting. It has to be highly disciplined. Indian batsmen realized early that the SA bowlers tend to bowl at a fourth or fifth stump outside the off stump and just let the deliveries go. Then attacked their second string bowlers. Australian batters have to take that into consideration quickly and do as the Indians did. Unlike Indians, though, Australian batsmen are used to the speeds and seam movement and if they keep their off-side play under control, they'll love the batting as the ball comes on the bat which they will like. likewise, I like the fact that Mitchell bowls at the stumps and for a bowler at his speed, uses the length very well! @TheBigBoodha : Whatever....

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 11:04 GMT)

The selection has been good. Bailey is more suited to the shorter formats and axing him was the right decision, if you ask me.

Australia will be very confident after their Ashes success, but SA will surely be a formidable opposition. They are the best team by some distance and have excellent players in both departments. Mitch's form will be crucial in deciding the outcome of the series.

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 10:55 GMT)

@ Robert Falconer and other Hughes proponents; Hughes was dropped from the team during the India ODI series played in the most batsmen friendly pitches and grounds in the world at the moment. How come he is expected to bat against a Fierce SA attack on seaming and bouncy pitches? Not that Shaun is any better. As far as Sheffield field is concerned, it is not necessary that that top averaging batter is the best. If just performance in domestic tournaments were a consideration then there would be no Tendulkar and India would still have a hundreds of batters to fill all or any batting slots in their team. Look at the batting feats of batters in the friendly Indian pitches. in Ranjii Trophy. Not uncommon for batters to have domestic averages that are in the seventies and above. Australian selectors need to look for talent from events other than Sheffield; there might some uniquely talented players who stand out and catch notice in the futures League, Ryobi Cup (even though it is for ODI

Posted by trahlee on (January 20, 2014, 10:54 GMT)

"Can't understand why Marsh is there ?" Well, think you might find John I. was his Headmaster at The Hale School - question well & truly answered !!!!!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 10:50 GMT)

Remember that recommendation of the Argus Review? About Shield form being the single most important factor for test selection? Whatever happened to that...

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 20, 2014, 10:36 GMT)

Marsh is in the Marcus North category. Let us not waste time and a space in the 11 with him - bring in some youth - Lynn, Maddinson etc

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 10:21 GMT)

How on earth did Watson keep his spot?

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 20, 2014, 10:07 GMT)

Boomslanger, your post is about as logical as curried ice cream. It is barely intelligible. You decided on the conclusion. And then tried to find premises to support it. You failed.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (January 20, 2014, 10:03 GMT)

TommyTucker, no doubt you are aware that Faf averages mid 30s in 1st class cricket after you remove his test scores. Just interested to know if that's the future of SA cricket? Just mirroring your logic.

Posted by Blakey on (January 20, 2014, 9:57 GMT)

Well selected. Marsh has previous form in SA and is starting to gain some form, Doolan looks a very good player. I hope Doolan gets in and is played at 6 to get a feel for test cricket with a move to 3 next year. Watson needs to put his hand up for some first innings runs.

Posted by Macker60 on (January 20, 2014, 9:56 GMT)

boomxlanger, Don't right off Lehman influence on this team, And the Fact that this is a Completely different team to the One that Played in India and England, Just think Johnston is the Second fastest Bowler in that team. Even though Marsh and Doolan have ordinary stats this season they are Fast ball players good on quick wickets, Both in recent years have performed in the second Haft of the Australian season at the time the wickets are Quick, If SA produce Quick wickets like they normally do this team will surprise, On saying that I think Hughes should have been picked before Doolan. Oh and when I say a Different team I mean the Mindset of this team has changed.If we get to see Paterson and Johnston together Look Out, 2 x 150 plus bowlers going at it, And Paterson has the better Bouncer.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (January 20, 2014, 9:54 GMT)

The squad is too bowler heavy. Should have picked another batsman which should have been Hughes and Bird or Faulkner dropped.

Posted by Rebel_Who_Follows_All_The_Rules on (January 20, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

@boomslanger: Have to agree with you on that one. Apart from Clarke, I don't think any of the OZ batsmen have the technique to survive in SA conditions. On the flipside though, OZ have the second best bowling attack in the world and they also have the better spinner and as such will provide the SA batsmen a far far sterner test as compared to the IND bowlers.

Posted by Redbackfan on (January 20, 2014, 9:48 GMT)

Like most on here I can't understand why Marsh is there, his one day record is good but test and FC is very average. They must not watch shield cricket cause this season there are 3 standouts ind shield batting, North, White and Hughes. These guys have scored over 500 runs averaging over 50, Cooper has also done this. Lynn, Whiteman, Forrest, Carters and Voges have all scored over 400 runs averaging over 50. Marsh on the other hand has 248 runs @ 31 and Doolan 391 @ 39.1. Shouldn't we be rewarding players who are performing instead of gut feel or whatever they are selecting on. Hughes is so unlucky and treated harshly but on the positive he can pump out another 500 plus runs and help win the shield for the Redbacks.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

I think you will find Hughes main problem nowadays is that he plays for South Australia; it is very difficult for any South Australian player to get any recognition! For example: Lyon was given his first class break by South Australia & managed to get into the Australian side (after the Aus selectors had tried about 5 other spinners) but still no-one would give him any credit and he was repeatedly dropped while the selectors tried 'anyone' else. Now that he has moved to NSW there is no thought of dropping him, strange coincidence don't you think?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 9:34 GMT)

Boomslanger; Didn't think anyone could come up with more irrelevant data than what GSingh would do hut you have just done it. Those same talented young players struggled with Swann, Panesar and Anderson where as we have just witnessed what Australia did to them. Indian conditions are no form guide for South Africa. Australia were also in the rebuilding stage the last two times we have been to South Africa. I'm not going to say we will definetely win but I won't be surprised if we do.

Posted by Green_and_Gold on (January 20, 2014, 9:31 GMT)

Ill take a different stance than most - i think its good for Hughes to remain in Aus focusing on domestic cricket. He has been in and out of the Aus side and is often criticised for his technique. The time he is spending at domestic level (where he is scoring runs) will help set him up in the future. Look at what happened to MJ when he had an extended period out of the national team - he went away and worked on becoming a better player - I hope Hughes is doing the same thing so that when he does come back into the Aus side he will be better prepared.

Posted by SamRoy on (January 20, 2014, 9:29 GMT)

With no unknown x factor in Australia team, I think proteas will win the test series vs Australia.

Posted by Moppa on (January 20, 2014, 9:22 GMT)

I've never seen such amazing consensus on a cricinfo forum - Marsh doesn't deserve to tour! Either Inverarity is a genius and can see something about 100+ keen cricket followers posting here all can't or, more likely, he's simply been confused/seduced by irrelevant white ball form. The verdict will delivered by Marsh's performance in SA, but somehow I think Inverarity is just plain wrong on this one.

Posted by boomslanger on (January 20, 2014, 9:09 GMT)

Not so sure about this Aussie side. A lot of them did not fire in flat Indian conditions against a bowling attack that relied more on chances and God to take wickets. Mitchell Johnson is good but did not really burn the Indians though in Indian Pitches he did do okay. I do not think this side will be able to cope against Morkel, Philander and Steyn. Classy and talented batsmen like Pujara, Kohli and Rahane found it difficult to cope with and score of Morne who has become a very deadly indeed. I think this series will go to SA and show up Australia for what it is now (full of vinegar after the Ashes but almost no deep talent, except for Clarke and maybe Johnson (If he does not get injured, even in the Ashes, the English bowlers had the Australians on the ropes in the first innings)Australia might go into another crisis which, at this stage , will virtually rule them out as contenders for the world cup. Australia has not finished with team building...

Posted by Meety on (January 20, 2014, 9:09 GMT)

34th best batsmen in the Shield this summer - what a worthy selection! A batsmen in whiteball form (with no red ball form) is replacing a well credential white ball batsmen who underperformed. Hmmmm - wonder what will happen next? I predict that one of two things happen 1) Marsh fails to deliver if getting a cap, 2) Actually does briefly deliver before getting injured or sent home for misconduct! Can't work out which is the most likely!

Posted by Tongariro on (January 20, 2014, 9:08 GMT)

I really don't get it about Shaun Marsh. He has a 2013-2014 Sheffield Shield batting average of 31. Something is wrong with his selection.

Posted by IndianInnerEdge on (January 20, 2014, 8:57 GMT)

Cant wait for the series, this is a true reflection of the top sides going head to head-fugget the rankings....exciting.....bring it on :)

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 8:56 GMT)

@ AlSmug - 53 was his scoring rate - you are looking at the wrong column :) - feel sorry for Hughes :(

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 8:54 GMT)

Absolute joke, Marsh being picked - there is probably another 6 batsman that should be picked ahead of him, Hughes, Doolan, Lynn, Silk, Ferguson, North, White. To mention a few. John Inverarity is a joke so is Pat Howard.

Posted by Matt.au on (January 20, 2014, 8:53 GMT)

Posted by Shaggy076 ShutTheGate; You can call me a Hughes supporter but the way I see it is I am a supporter of the Sheffield Shield cricket system as the sole base for picking test teams. Right now it happens to be Hughes but Shaun Marsh could come along and knock up 4-5 hundreds in a season then I would be backing him. I think the majority of the "Phil Hughes" supporters are a supporter of this system and not the man in question.

It is a terrible shame the selectors haven't used the exact formula you describe.

A kid coming along could be forgiven to think "All I need is a couple of 20s' or 30s' in T20 or a couple of 50s' in one dayers and I'll get a go."

It numbs the brain to think that Hughes has been scoring century after century in the form of cricket that does matter - in regards to test cricket - and is usurped by Marsh whom has an equally mind numbing poor record in first class cricket - especially these last two years.

Do the selectors actually watch Shield games?

Posted by handyandy on (January 20, 2014, 8:51 GMT)

Actually #AlSmug 53 is his strike rate. Marsh's batting average is a very average 31. His career average is only about 35 and he has only managed 8 centuries.

Why this guy is let anywhere near the test team is beyond me.

Posted by ZanzibarOz on (January 20, 2014, 8:38 GMT)

Never mind Marsh... somebody on the selection panel seems to really like Doolan and for the life of me I just can't see why. His numbers are mediocre at best in FC.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 20, 2014, 8:33 GMT)

They are only a poor bowling attack now, they looked world class against an underperforming India.

Posted by Sir_Francis on (January 20, 2014, 8:32 GMT)

SO Marsh & Doolan were picked for their ability to play SA fast bowlers.

Hughes averages 53 in SA.

However, Hughes is seen as a top order player. Doolan has pled in the top order and Marsh has opened for Australia in tests.

Doolan is seen as having a good technique and Marsh is in a good space. Doolan is 25th in the averages this year, Marsh is even worse. Hughes is 2nd.

I'm glad Inverarity explained this as it shows he has no idea.

Finally, Marsh is 30 and has played 85 FC games yet averages only 35. That'd be poor as a test player. As a FC player it's borderline mediocre. Looks like he's been picked on ODI form. Isn't that why they picked Bailey? That went well. Doolan ,28, averages 38 for his career. 30 this year. Good technique but no results! Hughes is 25 and averages 45. He played so well at Trent Bridge. If they'd perservered he would be emulating Smith now. Instead we have to wait while the selectors waste caps on guys who aren't good enough.

Somewhere, Steyn is smiling.

Posted by geoffrey22 on (January 20, 2014, 8:29 GMT)

While the coach might have changed,the stupid selections have not ended,while I would never have picked George Bailey in the first place,once you pick a player you should stand by them,he should be in the squad for South Africa and then we have Jackson Bird who has not played a first class game since last August,and James Pattinson since July,They will be in great condition if called upon,we have just seen England struggle with their back up players for the Ashes series and some of the reason they struggle is the lack of cricket ! and now Australia does the same thing,when I first watched Test Cricket players had to earn their places in Test Cricket,it now seems that once you have played for Australia you will always be there,never to far away while these players did have success at Test level they cannot be match fit,why can't we pick players who are match fit

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 8:22 GMT)

Bizarre. How does Marsh even rate a mention let alone selection. He has never in his career managed to have an acceptable first class average and given that he is 30 now, it is unlikely that he ever will. Doesn`t deserve to be there period. Have no issue with Bailey being dropped. He deserved his chance but didn`t take it. Doolan i can live with although a first class average of 39 is not so good. Phil Hughes can consider himself bloody unlucky on current form. Especially as his last trip to SA was hardly unsuccessful. Can`t accept that Marsh is a better option. Sends a really weird message. Maybe Inverarity uses a dart board on some selections. No issue with bowlers chosen. Good variety.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

As a South African I'm very happy not to see Phil Hughes or Pat Cummins in this squad. I don't see the Australian batsmen posting totals that their bowlers can defend - too fickle and inconsistent...need Pujara / Amla / AB / Kohli type consistency to down us at home and for now they don't have it. However if they pull together as a team it will be a very interesting contest, though I still don't see them winning the series.

Posted by AlSmug on (January 20, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

#henry what rubbish Marsh is averaging 53 in shield this yr http://stats.espncricinfo.com/sheffield-shield-2013-14/engine/records/averages/batting.html?id=8599;type=tournament

Posted by Rajeshj on (January 20, 2014, 8:17 GMT)

Interesting (biased) selection.. Shaun Marsh never appeared a bit like a decent test batsmen, but may be his father thinks otherwise.. What next?? Mitchell Marsh in place of Ryan Harris??... You can't dismiss this as rubbish because you never know.. Poor Bailey, really deserved another series.. May be Pup is feeling itchy about Bailey's presence in the team, because Bailey did a decent job as caption in the Indian series.. Pup is renowned for booting out people whom he doesn't like..

Posted by Beertjie on (January 20, 2014, 8:17 GMT)

A good squad except for the clearly evident Marsh-bias. Why even consider him after seeing how selecting Bailey on ODI form backfired? Chris Lynn or Hughes are clearly better picks.

Posted by Waws on (January 20, 2014, 8:13 GMT)

So after beating a depleted English side , Aus suddenly have the best fast bowling attack in the world, or so they think.... a side that was regularly 150 /5 against a very poor bowling attack, but then again Clark is the only decent batsmen in that lineup , cant see these guys winning in SA , Warner is an slog and hope player, not gonna come off against Steyn and Philander, SA to strong for this overconfident herd off sheep

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 20, 2014, 8:06 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx

Thanks defending Marsh but it would be more useful to me if you could let me know if he is the 'next best in line' in terms of Australia's current top batters in Shield cricket. Im not interested in his debut or the 60 runs he scored against SA. I am asking - if this 30 yr old with a FC average of 35 the next best in Australia?

PS. Duminy has a FC average of 48 and is still in his twenties age wise. Alviro Petersen is no legend of cricket but an average of 39 in tests is a decent result against the new ball.

Posted by wapuser on (January 20, 2014, 8:00 GMT)

Great, so we drop one sub-standard Test player (Bailey) for another (Marsh). This is going to end in tears against that attack.

Posted by rickyvoncanterbury on (January 20, 2014, 7:58 GMT)

@ georgeandwilliamsdaddy on (January 20, 2014, 6:56 GMT) Do you think he should have had a stiff upper lip, and should have the attitude this is to hard I'm going home.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 7:50 GMT)

675 @ 25 says it all. That is an implausible grounding for selection.

Hopefully Marsh will not be called upon. For mine Doolan needs to be eased into the team at 6, not at 3. I think Watto is doing a pretty serviceable job there for now. Patto in if Harris or Johnson go down, otherwise Bird if Siddle gets injured. Praying for no other alterations.

Posted by lyoung on (January 20, 2014, 7:49 GMT)

Hughes' record in SA alone should have been enough to see him included. 500+ runs at an average of 53 against the same attack they'll come up against. Throughout test history there have been batsmen who come to like playing against a particular country on their own wickets, and Hughes could well enjoy SA's pitches. Not sure what the selectors' are thinking here.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (January 20, 2014, 7:43 GMT)

Looks a very settled squad..The one change in the XI was a foregone conclusion. Bailey just doesn't look like succeeding against quality pace bowling attacks at Test level.

Posted by Henry_Crun on (January 20, 2014, 7:42 GMT)

A Test average of 27, overall Shield average of 35, this season 31, average of 2.8 against the powerhouse fast bowling attack that is India, and a penchant for running himself or his partner out. You can't help wondering if Sean Marsh would be in this squad if his father was Fred Bloggs from Gulargambone.

Posted by AlSmug on (January 20, 2014, 7:41 GMT)

mmm.... very very interesting! Not such a bad selection the old Marsh its now or never for him really , hes in good shield and odi form so its justified. Hughes the batting enigma a regular state bully an a current international disaster, maybe in time Hughes is worthy but lets remember just how many chances that boy from Newry Creek on the mid nth coast of NSW has had, whats his test batting average again? Its a huge mental step up , my advice for hughes is to tighten his fragile little mind and then he will be ready for the pressure of test cricket and do what he does at state level , play with freedom and back himself

Posted by keithmillersmesserschmitt on (January 20, 2014, 7:33 GMT)

After all the talk about selecting on performance! Hughes' performance has been miles ahead of Marsh and Doolan. "Looking good" should not be a basis for selection. Runs and wickets. If you can't do that at FC level, you're pretty unlikely to do it at Test level. And what about all the other batsmen who have done better in Shield cricket than the Golden Boys? What message is this sending them and other young cricketers? That Cricket is a sport of insiders and outsiders?

Posted by PFEL on (January 20, 2014, 7:16 GMT)

How can anyone possibly justify Marsh being selected ahead of North, Hughes or White? All would have been mush better and more sensible choices.

Posted by Freak7820 on (January 20, 2014, 7:10 GMT)

@jonesy2

Out of the list you provided, Jordan Silk and maybe Usman have a chance of making the test squad....Lynn, Maddinson, White & Maxwell are all short-form players.

Don't understand the Shaun Marsh selection...would like to see Australia play Haddin at 6, Faulkner at 7.

Posted by RMCroos on (January 20, 2014, 7:00 GMT)

I was suprised about George Bailey included in AUS ashes ...indeed he had a good ( flat track ) tour of India. when its comes to Ashes world best test season i would say you need more good techniquelly handling batsman... I really like to see an another steve wagh / Ricky ponting / gilchrist in AUS side we missed them...A srilankan

Posted by partha19 on (January 20, 2014, 7:00 GMT)

good team composition. its very nice to see that they have omitted usman kwaja who has not done anything significant both in international as well domestic circuit. Even in BBL though its a different format his performance are below par. I feel Maddinson could be a good prospect as he has tremendous potential and plays aggressive cricket . Marsh is definitely a good choice though he has to improve playing against spinners . A very good pace attack supported well with world class spinner Lyon.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 6:59 GMT)

Bad decision from the selectors! Marsh has done very Little this season to warrant being chosen for an away tour of South Africa. If he averages barely 30 against sheild bowling how will he cope against Steyn and co? The plain fact is we do not have a specialist number 3 right now, not one good enough anyway. When you do not have a specialist no 3, you put your best batsman there. Eng did not dare to do this. Will Aus play Clark there? As Ian Chappell says it is better Clarke comes in at 1 for 10 than 3 for 30...

Posted by georgeandwilliamsdaddy on (January 20, 2014, 6:56 GMT)

Well that will have wiped off the smug smile from Mr Bailey. When he is a proven Test match batsman, he can made his comments. Alas, from his talent and displays so far, that is unlikely to happen - average player, below average attitude

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 6:53 GMT)

Saffas are not to their fullest strength with Kallis out.. Apart from AB,Amla & Steyn everyone seems pretty mediocre. Something tells me aussies are gonna roll 'em this time around.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 6:44 GMT)

Laughable! Doolan and Marsh are at best fill-ins for the sixth spots. Without doubt Hughes should have been in the starting XI. Maybe he looks ugly while at the crease but the sheer number of runs he has scored in FC cricket since being dropped from the England Ashes should've assured him a place. Probably makes sense for the Aussies to go in with 5 bowlers now considering the talent they have in the bowling department.

Posted by Dangertroy on (January 20, 2014, 6:43 GMT)

Quite surprised actually. I wouldn't of been surprised to see bailey miss the first test, but I expected him to at least be on the plane. For all the talk of him being an influence in the dressing room, I thought they would take him and have him around the squad. He gets a chance to finish out the shield season with tasmania now and press his claims for next season. Marsh. Well. I dunno. Good for him I guess. At least he is a proper number three. He may have some South African experience, but its also the site of some off-field misdemeanors. This must be his last chance for an extended run in the side though... Tough for Hughes, but a full season away from the international team is probably what he needs. He is young and still has plenty of time to mature. I think Marcus North should probably feel a bit unlucky though - he was in sterling form before his brothers passing. He also has South African test experience.

Posted by TahirMahmood on (January 20, 2014, 6:37 GMT)

Very good job Mr. John, good solid squad to face SA. Hughes is unlucky.

Posted by Dashgar on (January 20, 2014, 6:36 GMT)

Oh my god the Hughes fans are out in force aren't they. Last time Hughes was in SA he averaged less than 30, stop talking about form from the dark ages. He isn't a world beater and he's proven it enough times by now. He definitely isn't a number 6 which is all our team needs right now. I'd be putting Chris Lynn on this trip along with maybe Doolan, Maxwell or Mitch Marsh but they'd all be behind Faulkner in the pecking order

Posted by CSpiers on (January 20, 2014, 6:33 GMT)

Always thought if Marsh could get his head right he''d be a class player. He's got a solid technique but suffers badly from concentration lapses. Lets hope he can put it right if given the chance.

Posted by TahirMahmood on (January 20, 2014, 6:31 GMT)

I feel for hughes (unlucky), he is making a lot runs in Sheffield Shield. Shaun Marsh is class act, he should perform, very talented. If he perform in SA against Steyn, Phinlander and Morkel, he will be the permanent part of Aus test batting line. When he is playing well, looking very compatible to Ausies.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 20, 2014, 6:25 GMT)

re- Hughes , been massively o/r by a lot of fans-esp Aus-as is not cut for this level- i.e not int. mat.- imho.Has no tech. which is hardly better than any handy tailenders in the world,is clueless vs any ball < 100 ks whether or not it actually 'spins'.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 6:19 GMT)

ShutTheGate; You can call me a Hughes supporter but the way I see it is I am a supporter of the Sheffield Shield cricket system as the sole base for picking test teams. Right now it happens to be Hughes but Shaun Marsh could come along and knock up 4-5 hundreds in a season then I would be backing him. I think the majority of the "Phil Hughes" supporters are a supporter of this system and not the man in question. The best batsman can bat anywhere Hussey was an opener, Shaun Marsh has predominantly been an opener - you pick the best batsman position doesn't matter. If you get caught outside off-stump at #3, you will get caught outside the off-stump at #1. The thing is since that problem which was now a couple years ago he has made ton after ton in the Sheffield shield - what has Marsh and QUiney done during this time?

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 6:12 GMT)

faulkner should be in the XI. He just played onre match and he got six wickets on a very flat track. Mitchell starc should be in the squad as well.

Posted by ss1981 on (January 20, 2014, 6:09 GMT)

I like Shaun Marsh in limited overs cricket, same as Aaron Finch, and I am happy with both Bird and Pattinson as our primary backups, though they deserve more, once becoming fit.

Back to Shaun Marsh... I get the selection... someone who can come in should Davey Warner hurt himself having a trundle... but logically... we're tracking back three years. Shaun Marsh is a capable batsman with a poor record at domestic level... he's also severely injury prone.

Alex Doolan - His first class record isn't great, buy players surprise.. Doolan could be one of those guys... and if Australia were cheeky.. they'd try and play Tom Cooper before the next World Cup

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 20, 2014, 6:09 GMT)

Can understand Aussies intent on fresh blood for pace given avail. of talented young resourses at hand. But dont discount Bolinger and Hilfy-both won a series in SA- and the skill,exp. they got. Also young Cummins.

Posted by JAH123 on (January 20, 2014, 6:05 GMT)

I'm disappointed for Bailey but I think the selectors want a genuine no 3 to let Watson go down to 6. The fact that Bailey missed his chance in the Ashes just made that decision easier for them.

Happy for Doolan as he deserves a crack. To the people saying he is not test quality: how will you know if you don't give hime a chance at test level? He scored a century against Steyn & Morkel in a tour match vs SA 12 months ago, and he looks genuinely comfortable against fast bowling.

Marsh is a poor selection - as much as I rate his ability, he doesn't have any sort of form to warrant being picked. I can't help but feel he is just a stop-gap for Hughes. The selectors seem to want to make Hughes do the hard yards in the Shield this time around before rushing him back into the side, which I think is fair enough. Hopefully that makes him hungry and he comes back stronger.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (January 20, 2014, 6:03 GMT)

My changes: IN: Cameron White, Steve O'Keefe OUT: Shaun Marsh, Jackson Bird. Otherwise a good squad.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (January 20, 2014, 6:03 GMT)

@tommytrucksaffa: Well, if SA can afford 30 averagers like Duminy and Petersen i guess we can be forgiven for picking him. However, he scored a hundred on debut followed it up with 80 odd then a 40 odd in SA before averaging 3 across 6 innings against India, so he is abetter player than that average suggests and at 7 tests, 1 big score and it would look a whole lot better.

Posted by Thefakebook on (January 20, 2014, 6:02 GMT)

I think people are getting the misconception here that SE Marsh & Doolan are picked in the test side due their form,which as everyone knows they are not.They picked to fill a no 6 position that Mike hussy left vacant,yes just for the sake of filling that spot the selectors will keep picking random guys till they finally settle on one just like they did with Lyon after Warne left!

Posted by jonesy2 on (January 20, 2014, 5:57 GMT)

all you can do is laugh really, im sure phil is right now. im a huge marsh fan and I would have mitch marsh playing every format of the game due to his ridiculous talent but shaun being selected is nothing short of farcical, don't get me wrong, shaun is a fine fine player and one of the most talented batsmen in the world when you consider all the skills of batting but he doesn't deserve selection right now and its all mental with him. and its not like these two are in there early to mid twenties and will improve significantly. not only that but I am genuinely upset because I have no doubt phil hughes would have hurt south Africa severely coming in after rogers and warner. lynn, maddinson, silk, white, north, burns, usman, Maxwell, pomersbach should all be selected ahead of marsh and doolan right now.

Posted by brisCricFan on (January 20, 2014, 5:55 GMT)

@Gabbagod; Hughes out of his depth at Test level?? the youngest player ever to score 2 centuries in a test match... I wouldn't mind his depth level...

His trouble started as soon as he started listening to everyone telling him his technique playing the angled bat away from his body was going to get him out... self-fulfilling prophecy because up until then, his good eye and fast hands had worked well for him... until he tried to bat the way the conventional thinkers around the side wanted him to bat... hardly a surprise that with his technique batting how they wanted he was exposed...

To paraphrase a genius: He was a big fish that they pulled from a pond and asked to climb a tree... then stood back and said "told you so" when it failed.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 5:52 GMT)

Its not the runs that you make in domestic circuit but the attitude you carry in international arena, I would have given one more chance to Bailey, just keeping him in the squad might have boosted his moral and above. Doesn't matter how much Hughes makes in Sheffield Shield season like waseem jaffer's all Ranji trophy's tons. In the first test would pick Faulkner and rest 10 played in Ashes.

All in all its gonna be cracker of a series :)

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 20, 2014, 5:51 GMT)

To all the Phil Hughes supporters - isn't he an opener?

Why would we pick a third opener with Warner and Rogers both being solid?

Remember when we picked Hughes at number 3? That's right he kept getting out for not many playing the same offside dabble and getting caught at first and second slip. Even the Kiwi's could get him out with a predicable plan.

Hughes is talented no doubt, but I think we should only bring him back in when there is a spot available as an opener. And with Rogers being 37 he won't have to wait too long.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 5:49 GMT)

ausv/s proteas johnson harris v/s steyn phi lander batting proteasstronger plusplaying in their own backyard spin nathan lyon not shane warne but better than poteas spinners overall 50/50 its going to be a cracker of a series cricket at its best

Posted by cricketsubh on (January 20, 2014, 5:46 GMT)

bad selection to pick marsh and doolan for test in SA TOUR both avg under 40 in 1stclass level both fails to score big runs in this years shild matches and both are not young players australia need young players like hughes ,maddision.silk,burns who have been scoreing runs in shild cricket and they are young it is the right time to pick a young player when team winning not 30years and 28 year players who can;t play for aus for another 10,12 years i think selector go with past propermance of marsh and doolan aganist SA DOOLAN SCORE 160 AGANIST SA IN PRATIC MATCH and marsh make gud runs in odis in SA on that basis both of them pick.

Posted by lillee4PM on (January 20, 2014, 5:44 GMT)

James Pattinson is excess baggage for the SA (very immature) and should be left behind to play out the rest of the Sheffield Shield. Bird will be very good support if Harris breaks down or Siddle doesn't fire. I'm not a big fan of Hughes at test level but think he deserved another gig ahead of Marsh. Nevertheless, as it stands, for the first test I'd go: Rogers, Warner, Marsh, Clarke, Smith, Watson, Haddin, Johnson, Harris, Sidddle, Lyon. If Marsh fails, then give Doolan a shot. When Watson fails or breaks down as usual, then replace him permanently with Faulkner.

Posted by jimmy787 on (January 20, 2014, 5:41 GMT)

Clearly the selection of Shaun Marsh ahead of Phil Hughes has more to do with "gut feel" rather than any logic.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 20, 2014, 5:41 GMT)

Whats a 30 year old, with 7 Test matches at an average of 27, Added to that a mediocre FC average of 35 doing playing for Australia? I just cant believe there are no better players batting in Shield cricket than him! Maybe he is a wicketkeeper though.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (January 20, 2014, 5:38 GMT)

Ah, the Marsh surname wins out again. I wish my dad played for Ausrralia....

Posted by DragonCricketer on (January 20, 2014, 5:35 GMT)

@JobeWatson. I agree with all you say about poor Hughes. Its amazing. Why?? Inverarity just said he was unlucky.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 5:34 GMT)

The selectors continue to amaze. Doolan and Marsh are not test-quality batsmen. Hughes, North, White and co. must be scratching their heads over this. Marsh makes a couple of good odi scores and suddenly he's in the test Squad? Selectors obviously still haven't learned from the Bailey experiment that odi form doesn't=first-class form.

Posted by Cricfever_PM on (January 20, 2014, 5:32 GMT)

Shane Marsh averages 35 in 1st class, may be his recent form helped him to get the place in test side, in early days most of Australia players especially their 1st players were having minimum averages of 45 but now a days it's very hard to find anyone having more then 35 1st class averages. I feel Australia is some what settle side now.

Posted by Viratkohlirocks on (January 20, 2014, 5:32 GMT)

faulkner should be in the XI. He just played onre match and he got six wickets on a very flat track. Mitchell starc should be in the squad as well.

Posted by muthukumar.velusamy on (January 20, 2014, 5:31 GMT)

Indian Slection commitee.. Pls take clue from ur CA counterparts,even after 5-0 Whitewash then always look for improvement & putting Best squad. Indian team will play unchanged for 5 yrs if we whitewash any team like Aussies did. Hats of u Aussies selectors.. Keep improving & become powerful team as like last decade.

Posted by campsieman on (January 20, 2014, 5:30 GMT)

what a joke the Australian selectors are! They replace a man with an average of 26 after five tests (Bailey) and replace him with a man who averages 27.36 after seven tests (Marsh) a shield average this year of 31.00 and a career average of only 35.02. Even the other back up batsman only has a Sheffield shield average of 39.1 this year and 37.62 for his career (Doolan). Meanwhile there are 16 players with more Sheffield shield runs than either of these guys this summer. Including former test players who have been discarded with better averages that both them.

Marcus North - test average of 35.48 Cameron White - test average of 29.20 (in India) Phil Hughes - test average of 32.65

Even poor old David Hussey has scored more runs at a higher average this year than either of Marsh or Doolan.

Poor Cameron White, seen as too old, but at 30 years and 155 days is younger than seven players in the squad and has made 1 hundred and 11 fifties this summer (half at sheild level)

Posted by RG2008 on (January 20, 2014, 5:27 GMT)

Really wonder how many more runs Phil Hughes need to score to get another chance? Seems to be a lot more than March & Doolan combined. Whatever perceived weaknesses he has he still manages to score runs. Chanderpaul doesn't look pretty either but you'd still pick him in any test team even now.

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 20, 2014, 5:23 GMT)

not a squad to complain about. May this strengthen Hughesy's resolve to come back better. Feel sorry for Bails !! Go Aus !!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 5:21 GMT)

Phil Hughes, despite all the runs he scores at First Class level, has too many technical issues that means he is just not ready for international cricket. He has had his chances and never took them, he has to not only score FC runs, but rebuild his country-baked, half-cooked technique into something workable at the highest level.

Posted by hmmmmm... on (January 20, 2014, 5:19 GMT)

Maybe the selectors looked up the wrong Marsh when they checked the stats? surely not again! Hughes and Khawajia are surely more likely to succeed long term...de ja vu.

Posted by Matt.au on (January 20, 2014, 5:16 GMT)

It's sad when first class form is discarded. Hughes has far superior form to Marsh and Doolan in the Sheffield Shield this summer. Hughes has proven himself in Sth Africa and deserved to be picked, simple as that.

"Since his axing, Hughes has made 671 first-class runs at the average of 61.00 from 11 innings, including a double-century and two other tons this Sheffield Shield season.

Marsh, by comparison, has scored most of his runs in the shorter formats. Since he was dropped from the Test side in January 2012, he has made 675 first-class runs at 25.00."

Very telling stats. In the last two years Marsh has scored 4 more runs than Hughes last 11 innings. Give me a break.

No disrespect to Shaun Marsh, he didn't select himself, but 8 first class centuries in 158 innings over 14 years of first class cricket should not get be good enough to be selected for the Australian test team.

Considering his record is even worse over the last two years you have to wonder what the selectors are on.

Posted by Sanj747 on (January 20, 2014, 5:15 GMT)

Does this selection send a clear signal to Watson that he will be batting at 6 and Doolan or Marsh at 3. I would think that this would be the way to go.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 5:10 GMT)

Sooner or later this will bite us on the bum. Meshing with the team is not more important than ability and form.

Posted by JobeWatson on (January 20, 2014, 5:02 GMT)

This is a joke. All 3 times Phil Hughes has been dropped (unfairly twice) he has worked his backside off to get back in, and it's an attitude that has impressed all of us. But this is another shafting and I doubt he will be able to do it many times more. Eventually he is going to lose the faith, and it could kill him as a cricketer altogether. For him to have to think that after all the Shield runs he has scored that he is still missing selection when Marsh's measly runs are getting selected, it must be horrible. Cricket Australia may have single-handedly destroyed the next Ponting with their ridiculous selections. It's a shame it's getting overshadowed by the fact we won the Ashes 5-0, because it's an absolute disgrace.

@Suvrojit Sen, how is he a dependable player? He's always looked classy to get to 30, and then he will just miss a straight one and be bowled or LBW. That's a terrible call, actually watch some cricket.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 4:58 GMT)

Bailey should have been given one more chance. He fights. I dont think Marsh will have the ability to play in pressure situations.

Posted by Gabbagod on (January 20, 2014, 4:57 GMT)

@Court Wright. Hughes and Khawaja must be feeling relieved if anything and lucky to have ever worn the baggy green. Both are out of their depth in Test cricket as their stats show. Would have preferred another Tasmanian, Jordan Silk to Alex Doolan though.

Posted by runout49 on (January 20, 2014, 4:53 GMT)

At last Ian Chappell's sniping at George Bailey from the commentary box has paid off. But Chappell would do well to remember how the selectors stuck with him despite scores of 11 , 17 , 19 , 37 , 34 , 49 , 7 , 5, 25 , 0 , 13 ,11, and 15 in his first 8 tests. Chappell also took Bailey to task for daring to criticise him over his comments about Australia's ODI series in India leading up to the Ashes. Perhaps the current 8-0 result will elicit a slice of humble pie for Chappell to chew on, but I doubt it !

Posted by BradmanBestEver on (January 20, 2014, 4:51 GMT)

Bailey had to go - the guy did not look the part and did not deliver at test level.

On the other hand Marsh looks the part but has not delivered enough in his test career and he has not performed well at shield level so he is lucky

Looks like one of the important recommendations of the Argus review, namely pick players on form at 1st class level, has been ignored by the selectors (omitting P. Hughes for example). Great to see politics and cloudy judgement returning to the Australian selection scene. It just could not stay away for too long

Posted by DylanBrah on (January 20, 2014, 4:44 GMT)

@Suvrojit Sen - Actually Shaun is quite the opposite of dependable. Everyone knows how 'classy' he can be... but which Shaun will turn up on game day... who knows? Even Shaun himself admitted his Shield form has been inconsistent.

Posted by Jagger on (January 20, 2014, 4:31 GMT)

Marsh STILL needs to work on his composure. Those stuttering feet and cruise liner u-turns are still a major problem.

What are the coaches doing about it?! Can his batting partner carry a party clicker or a ref's whistle or something? Make him wear some decent spikes!

Need to see a more confident, decisive Marsh running between the wickets. One whose intentions can be interpreted clearly by his teammates, and for him to start recognising his teammates indicators.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 4:31 GMT)

Inclusion of Doolan & Marsh seems to be good, as you got to expose young guns in rotation. I believe they must had to opt between Watson & Bailey, keeping Watson out would have really meant 'end of road' for him. So the mercy goes to him after his mixed performance. Bailey has time and will have his opportunity, he's a fine player and deserves to be looked as fine player.

Anyway, desperate to see the 'Clash of Titans' now!

Posted by dunger.bob on (January 20, 2014, 4:28 GMT)

@ Inderjit Singh: They could play Marsh at 3 and Watson at 6. I'd say you're right though. A straight swap between Doolan and Bailey and leaving everything else as it was. That is, Watto @ 3.

Overall a good squad and probably the best we can do atm. It looks as though Hughes will have to pile on thousands of runs in the next few years to get considered again. Fair enough I suppose. .. i notice we have no reserve keeper. I guess they'll just fly someone in if it comes up.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 4:21 GMT)

"Shaun made 44 and played exceptionally well"

Wow, we really do set the bar pretty low for this bloke.

Posted by Ross_Co on (January 20, 2014, 4:20 GMT)

Marsh for Bailey is the only iffy one IMO. As the article implies, if you're going to take a proven success on Saffa pitches surely Hughes? I do think Bailey has a Test future - too much is made of his averages in the past demolition of 'England'. If you factor in the runs he saved through taking 10 catches including some screamers off the higher quality 'England' players he was worth 10-15 runs per innings more. Might be a good tour for him to miss though, again as the article implies.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 4:05 GMT)

How much did Geoff Marsh influence Shaun's selection if he is 30 something in the runs tally?

Posted by trevklar on (January 20, 2014, 4:03 GMT)

I would liked to have been in Inverarity's school class - "please sir, i did well a year ago, even if i have had only one 50 in my last 5 first class games." A good way to get an A when you have failed the current test. Doolan should count himself lucky, when others have been scoring many more runs in shield cricket. Of course the team sitting top of the shield ladder, doesn't even have one member of the touring party. I guess that bodes well for their chances of hosting a shield final (Rolling Stones notwithstanding)

Posted by elvis57 on (January 20, 2014, 4:02 GMT)

The inclusion of Marsh defies belief. He has a first class average of just 35, a test average of 27, and has averaged 25 in first class since last being dropped. Mario

Posted by passionate_cricket_follower on (January 20, 2014, 4:02 GMT)

Bailey deserved another chance. One series is too less to judge a batsman.

Posted by D-Ascendant on (January 20, 2014, 3:59 GMT)

Shame about Phil Hughes. Should've been picked with Doolan or Marsh.

Posted by arcanum on (January 20, 2014, 3:58 GMT)

Shaun Marsh! Really? His selection makes no sense at all. He admits himself that he hasn't batted well enough to deserve a call up to the national squad recently. I'm a proud West Australian but even I concur.

This is more proof that John Inverarity's selection process is completely backwards; rather than picking players based on a proven track-record, it seems he uses some arcane formula to select doubtful cricketers, parachuting them into the team in the vain hope that a baggy green will spur them on to glory! Cart before horse.

Good luck to Shaun, I hope he does us proud. I would love nothing more than to see him hit a few centuries. But the selectors that put in Ashton Agar last year and who overlook the best batsmen in Sheffield Shield this year need to be given the boot. We need someone who will take a few cues from baseball's 'Moneyball' and select the best team based on hard data and not based on the useless flimflam that passes as selection criteria today.

Posted by cricketaustralia on (January 20, 2014, 3:52 GMT)

I'm a massive fan of Marsh, and I think he should be a fixture in the ODI side, but his selection here is wrong. Bailey's struggles in the Ashes weren't a surprise, he hasn't scored Shield runs. Neither has Marsh. Surely they would have learnt the lesson that Bailey's ODI form served little purpose when playing test cricket? Why do they think Marsh will be any different?

Reward players performing in the Shield comp instead of blindly ignoring it and picking the Test team based on form in the shorter formats. Phil Hughes, Chris Lynn and Joe Burns all seem to be better, more deserving options.

Posted by OneEyedAussie on (January 20, 2014, 3:52 GMT)

I can't say I'm a fan of Hughes, but surely if we're going on recent domestic form then Hughes must be selected ahead of Marsh. Also, no backup keeper?

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 3:49 GMT)

Marsh shouldn't be called.Bailey deserve another chance Marsh did nothing to get a call up. But it doesn't make sense as I see doolan will get chance. But good decision for Hughes as I think he need more first class matches to improve himself also he need to play county to improve his game, he has future no doubt about that.

Posted by goldeneraaus on (January 20, 2014, 3:39 GMT)

An expected squad given the Ashes performance. Feel for Bailey, one series may not usually be enough to judge a batsman, but his deficiencies were quite obvious and he would hardly ever find an easier time to score runs, particularly after being 3-0 up. The squad is heavy with our main strength, good to see Pattinson in there, though only an injury would see any on the bench playing a game. Marsh's selection boggles the mind given his mediocre form in FC over a long period of time, Bailey showed that ODI runs aren't a good parameter for selection. Perhaps Lynn is seen as too much of a dasher but his form should have warranted a look in. Hughes stats are impressive as always but perhaps the selectors have identified he could use some mental strengthening before being selected again? Whatever the case given the gap between the sides batting, I would say only if our bowlers can better their Ashes performance will Australia stand a chance.

Posted by InternationalCricketFollower on (January 20, 2014, 3:35 GMT)

Hughes should have been in the squad. Cannot select players based from their forms in shorter format. Same mistake was done on Bailey during the Ashes. Seems like it is happening again with Marsh.

Posted by SRK666 on (January 20, 2014, 3:34 GMT)

Hughes very unlucky, of course, to lose out to Doolan + Marsh, despite having a far superior first class record to both, and a far superior Test record to Marsh (though perhaps that is not so fair a comparison, given their brief Test careers). I wonder if Hughes is suffering because the selectors see him as an opening batsman, but rather think that the batting needs more support in the middle order. And, really, Doolan + Marsh seem to be the best of a fairly mediocre bunch of middle order batsman in Australia at the moment. So there is some injustice for Hughes, but not totally unsurprising or without reason. In other respects, it is a good and expected touring squad---Bird + Pattinson are the obvious choices as backup pacemen.

The interesting thing is who replaces Bailey. Like for like, and go for Doolan or Marsh? Or maybe something a bit different, and play Faulkner?

Posted by Punter.Pratik on (January 20, 2014, 3:31 GMT)

Very good team selection.Would like Faulkner to replace Bailey in the XI first up

Posted by kenna123 on (January 20, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

I am dumbfounded as to why Hughes wasn't picked. What more could he do? He scored 3 hundreds in his last 4 FC matches. Marsh and Doolan are good players but are not in the same class as Hughes.

I don't think we improved the side by dropping Bailey and bringing these 2 in. Selectors have made a big mistake in my eyes.

Posted by LoungeChairCritic on (January 20, 2014, 3:30 GMT)

As much as I respect Bailey's ability I believe they have picked a side for the conditions. If the tour was going to the sub-continent I think Bailey would of been in the squad. Potentially playing Doolan or Marsh at 3 allows us to play Watson at 4, Clarke at 5 and Smith at 6. You do not want our best batsmen (Clarke) coming in to early against an attack that is highly capable of making a lot of international top orders look silly. I do think Watto is more suited to 4 than 6. He hasn't got a history of batting with the lower order and probably is not busy enough to rotate the strike. I also think Clarke is more suited to be batting at 5 and Smith is more suited to 6. Both Clarke and Smith are good players of spin. Doolan or Marsh need to play a similar role to Rogers. Although they both have potential, the Saffers attack in my opinion is the best attack in the world and will truly test them out.

Posted by rocket123 on (January 20, 2014, 3:27 GMT)

Where is Usman Khawaja? What has he done wrong? He is not getting a proper run in the team. I guess for reasons unspoken but subtly understandable. Choosing Marsh in the squad is questionable. I hope selectors realize that letting Usman play and giving him a free hand to express himself he would rise to the occasion. By making selections unwarranted you are killing boy's confidence.

Posted by Kschneider on (January 20, 2014, 3:26 GMT)

A good test squad but why Shaun Marsh. Do the selectors pick him just to annoy us supporters? Im thinking Marsh have incriminating photos of someone high up in CA. Why else would he be selected ahead if...oh well ahead of anyone

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 3:24 GMT)

I like marsh and doolan in the squad. Pity Hughes didn't get a run, but would be his 4th chance. I think doolan should get first shot at number 6, leave Watson at 3. And leave the 4 bowlers

Posted by CrICkeeet on (January 20, 2014, 3:19 GMT)

Just think, how 'Unbelievable' he was in india!! Wo wo wo, hold on.. bailey is a very good player.. undoubtably... i lyk this boy! um jst think, what happened if he can play 15-20 match more there... then surely he can achieve sm unbelievable records.. (i can remember, only after playing 5 odi he increased his batting average 10+).. anyway, bst of luck george.. wish u can come back again..

Posted by Batmanian on (January 20, 2014, 3:18 GMT)

Hard to believe Doolan hasn't been given a chance yet. I doubt RSA at home will be rabble like England became, so the premium on Bailey's cricket brain and man management can't quite be afforded this time. I hope Haddin continues to show the leadership that seems to have allowed Clarke to concentrate on the tactics, his forte in the field.

Posted by webbsy on (January 20, 2014, 3:14 GMT)

Yeah, so picking players on ODI form above pretty average first class records worked out so well with Bailey didn't it. This has disaster written all over it.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 3:12 GMT)

Keeping the future in mind this appears to be a good side except Pattinson is yet to prove both form and fitness. He cones base on his potential once again. Bolls ver should have been in instead. He is proven material and was in the Ashes squad recently. How he was dropped ahead of Pattinson will remain a mystery. Doolan is a good addition. Would have preferred Bailey instead Marsh if nothing else to keep the Ashes team intact. Good balanced side over all otherwise....

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 3:08 GMT)

Good choice in Marsh - straight in at number 3, Watson to 6. The tour will be good experience for Doolan.

Posted by morgan_gibson87 on (January 20, 2014, 3:06 GMT)

Marsh is the 34th highest run scorer in Sheffield Shield this season. His career average at first-class level is around 35 and his test average is 27. How does this guy keep getting picked? What favours is he providing to the NSP?

So much for picking on form. If that were the case Hughes and White would be getting a look in...

Posted by Moppa on (January 20, 2014, 3:04 GMT)

Let's put aside the post-Ashes euphoria and have a cold-eyed look at the record of Inverarity's selection panel over its life. Good picks (in approx chronological order): 1) Pattinson's debut; 2) Smith for India tour; 3) Haddin returns for India and Ashes; 4) Rogers resurrected for Ashes; 5) Johnson returned Arguable to poor: 1) Khawaja dropped too quickly in 2011-12; 2) Johnson bats at 7 vs SL in Sydney; 3) Maxwell tours India; 4) Lyon dropped after 1 Test in India; 5) Cowan bats 3 vs Eng; 6) Starc continually picked on white ball form; 7) Bailey picked on white ball form; 8?) general management of Shane Watson over the whole period Shockers: 1) S.Marsh rushed back vs India; 2) Quiney; 3) Hastings picked for WACA ahead of Bird and others; 4) Doherty tours India; 5) Agar for Lyon. So I have it as 5 good picks and 5 shockers, with 8 arguable to poor selections, which will become 9 when Marsh fails in South Africa if given a chance to. On balance, not much to write home about.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 3:01 GMT)

I think Bailey deserved a longer rope....they could have developed him into a future test captain as well...Australia do have a leadership crisis in tests especially...either ways it will be an interesting trial by fire for doolan..

Posted by brisCricFan on (January 20, 2014, 3:01 GMT)

What must Hughes do? He didn't deserve to lose his place in the last Ashes series and has shown his class and form this summer in the Shield... His dismissals were no worse than those of Rogers or Watson but neither of those are the future of Australian cricket.

Looks like another year of grind for Hughes and Khawaja, two young men that talent says have got to get another chance.

Posted by Wefinishthis on (January 20, 2014, 2:57 GMT)

Pretty happy with this squad, although I can't see Marsh doing too well for the same reason as Bailey. He's better against a white ball. But dropping Bailey was right. As I predicted, Bailey was extremely unliked to do well and if he couldn't do well at home against England, he had no chance away against Philander and Steyn. The only real omission here was O'Keefe (as usual), but I doubt South Africa will be preparing any spinning tracks so that won't have a large impact. It would also have been nice to see Silk (to get squad experience) and perhaps Nevill or Wade as a backup over there, but overall I can't complain. Then again, I didn't think that Johnson would ever gain some consistency and he had 5 outstanding games in a row. South Africa are obvious favourites, but I think Australia might win a game if Johnson can keep his form up.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:55 GMT)

Hughes deserved a spot and he has a right to feel disappointed that his recent Shield form has not won him a spot in the side. In the midst of so much chopping and changing of players, he has been one of the players who has suffered most. I hope he finds a place in the side in the future.

Posted by Big_Brother_of_Cricket on (January 20, 2014, 2:54 GMT)

A really strong squad other than the selection of Shaun Marsh. Doolan deserves a place with his solid techniques and the run tally in previous Sheffield shield season. Bailey deserves to be dropped since he's a definite failure against the pace and swing of Steyn and Philander. However, Hughes is so unlucky to be missed considering his form this season. A double hundred and two centuries against Marsh's one century in 9 innings are too good not to be given a chance. Pace attacks looks threatening and seems even better than SA's. Johnson, Harris, Siddle, Pattinson, Bird against the likes of Steyn, Philander and Morkel.

Posted by ZkAneela on (January 20, 2014, 2:52 GMT)

Good move by Australia,Bailey was always expected to be dropped but giving Shaun Marsh another chance after reading those stats is questionable as there are other players having far more better FC averages than him.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:49 GMT)

wow this is really good team selection the fast bowling attack is extremely good and australia is playing very good cricket these days. I wish that aus wins over SA in SA to start moving towards number 1 spot. which is not that easy.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (January 20, 2014, 2:47 GMT)

Well I don't get it. Neither Marsh or Doolan have been chosen on form or a great career record. On the bowling side of things, I like Pattinson but he looks extremely short of a gallop. I don't know if he'll be ready if required. Surely Sayers is worth a look too.

Posted by Ducky610 on (January 20, 2014, 2:46 GMT)

Nooo... really? not again!! They finally picked batsman on merrit for the last two ashes series and now they have gone back to picking on potential instead of performance... Doolan is 28 and Marsh is 31... In that same age bracket Cowan, White and Ferguson have out performed them with North, Voges, Lynn and Hughes doing likewise... The sad thing? I know I missed names that have had better years than Doolan and Marsh ... Terrible selection, who pays these guys?

Posted by wapuser on (January 20, 2014, 2:45 GMT)

Good decision. ..marsh can play at any position

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:43 GMT)

i have no idea what the aussie selectors are doing with the batting. they've ruined hughes' confidence and career with this chopping and changing and don't seem to know how to understand that runs = form = warranted selection. Doolan, Marsh do not deserve selection over Hughes. Neither did Bailey for that matter

Posted by Uncyal on (January 20, 2014, 2:43 GMT)

Wondering what it takes for a South Australian to get into the Test or One Day squads these days? Leave town, like Ryan Harris, Nathan Lyon and Dan Christian (albeit ex NSW in the first place). Bad move Phil Hughes then.

Posted by crashdog on (January 20, 2014, 2:41 GMT)

This is a ridiculous decision and I can't believe it. Just when I started to have faith in the selectors again. George Bailey adds so much to the side, aside from his batting. He is a good leader and an excellent fielder. Cricket Australia confound me, they really do. I cannot understand why you would change a winning side? The team has dynamics that cannot be understood by analysing individual statistics. I remember past players getting way more tests than 5 to prove themselves. Shaun Marsh had 7 tests, but he was playing in a side that wasn't winning. I wouldn't be surprised if we lose the test series in South Africa because the selectors again have thrown common sense out the window. It goes back to the old saying: "If it aint broke, don't fix it." It is obvious to any intelligent cricket follower that this is a political decision and C.A are fooling themselves if they think people don't see it. I think it stinks, just ridiculous.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:38 GMT)

I can't understand this love affair with Marsh. Burns, Lynn or Hughes would all have been better selections. Love him in the ODI's and T20's but please accept he isn't cut out for the long format.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 20, 2014, 2:32 GMT)

All of the Phil Hughes supporters will no doubt complain, but I think the selectors are really looking for long term number 3, not an opener.

Hughes will replace Rogers when his run comes to an end but I'm glad the selectors are willing to try a genuine number 3. I'd like to see Watto at number 6.

I'd go with Warner, Rogers, Doolan, Clarke, Smith, Watto, Haddin for our top 7.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (January 20, 2014, 2:32 GMT)

All of the Phil Hughes supporters will no doubt complain, but I think the selectors are really looking for long term number 3, not an opener.

Hughes will replace Rogers when his run comes to an end but I'm glad the selectors are willing to try a genuine number 3. I'd like to see Watto at number 6.

I'd go with Warner, Rogers, Doolan, Clarke, Smith, Watto, Haddin for our top 7.

Posted by Tedtheo on (January 20, 2014, 2:31 GMT)

Good call on Doolan and Marsh although the latter will certainly have his doubters as did Mitch Johnson before the start of the Australian Summer.

I wonder if Bailey has finally had that joker grin wiped off his face? Attempting to. Annoy English batsmen from silly point was all he was good for.

Posted by chicko1983 on (January 20, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

Pretty clear that the Aussies are thinking of moving Watson to the middle order and bring in Marsh or Doolan at 3 (both are top order batsmen). First Test XI: Warner, Rogers, Marsh, Clarke, Smith, Watson, Haddin, Johnson, Harris, Siddle, Lyon. Will win the series 2-1.

Posted by Nerk on (January 20, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

Remember the last time a player was picked purely on ODI form? Forget who it was, but he was obviously so successful they had to do it again.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

Well Shane Watson's batting at 6. That's the first thing we can take out of this. The second thing is that John Invararity wasn't kidding when he said that they pick their test squads well in advance, Shaun Marsh and Alex Doolan must have been picked for this tour a couple of years ago.

Do they even watch the Sheffield Shield at all? Even peruse the run tally list? Alex Doolan had a breakout year last year and needed to consolidate that with more runs this year, instead he's fallen away. Marsh never got started, a one day specialist who doesn't even rate his own form? Averaging 31 good enough to tour against the top team in the world?!?!?

How is Marcus North not under consideration? How is Phil Hughes not pickable?

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:28 GMT)

Boy Hughes is so unlucky not to be going on this trip. he should be batting at 3. Watson is going to be out caught behind or LBW everyday of the week in SA. Guess Hughes needs to score triple hundred then.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:28 GMT)

Shaun Marsh. Surely not. There's a reason his average is in the mid-30s in first-class cricket and below that in tests. He's too loose, too often, and he gets out for not enough runs. And it doesn't matter that he looks good, or scores runs in ODIs or T20s. Watch this space - if he makes the side, he'll play a few good innings and look fantastic, but these will be watered down by enough failures to keep his test average under 35.

Posted by Moppa on (January 20, 2014, 2:27 GMT)

An easy squad to pick, and yet the selectors have still made a mistake going for Marsh. They drop a guy (Bailey) who was picked on white ball form and failed to convert it to Test match runs with, yep, a guy with absolutely no red ball form to speak of, presumably based on white ball form. Perplexing. So much for Argus and picking on performance - Hughes' Shield form has been light years ahead of Marsh's for as long as anyone can remember. Surely the selectors can distinguish between the different forms of the game. Incidentally, the squad as picked suggests to me that Doolan or Marsh will bat at 3 and Watson will slide down to 6.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:25 GMT)

Doesn't attest who they pick, they won't beat the Saffies on their home patch. Although saffies are going to miss Kallis.

Posted by nzcricket174 on (January 20, 2014, 2:25 GMT)

i love shaun marsh but he definitely doesn't deserve a spot in the test squad. hughes, north and some others have had stellar shield seasons and one of them surely warrants a spot. same goes for doolan...

Posted by TomTitTot on (January 20, 2014, 2:24 GMT)

I really like George Bailey and wished he had played well in the Ashes. Alas, he did not and I am glad the selectors is not complacent with the 5-0 whitewash of England. Most team would be reluctant to change after such an emphatic success. This is a right move. Faulkner should slot right in and that would give us an extra bowling option.

Posted by Cantbowlcantbat on (January 20, 2014, 2:24 GMT)

Feel sorry for Bailey. He's a nice bloke but probably not a Test No. 6. I think he's played his last Test. Hughes really must have pissed off somebody because he is being ignored time and again despite making Shield runs. Not sure about Marsh in Tests but Doolan is worth a try. Watson must be feeling the heat 'cos Faulkner could be a like-for-like replacement, although Faulkner and Watson are not Test No. 3s- both need to bat at No. 6.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:22 GMT)

Has to do well this time. No way a batsman with all recipies like Marsh can fail to make his mark.He looks the part in IPL. He is the one of few who get most runs from proper cricketing shots in IPL and a brilliant fielder. Surprising that he's not been able to strike success. But a good score is just around the corner one feels.

Posted by Insult_2_Injury on (January 20, 2014, 2:15 GMT)

Why do selectors persist in double speak? "George's contribution to the Ashes victory was very significant," Inverarity said. "He played an integral role there. ..11 players knitted together really well and they were a very convincing unit. But going to South Africa, we think George is less suited to there against their attack and we've left him out..."

Us grown ups understand that while you don't change a winning formula for change's sake, the Ashes are over and everyone knows that Bailey was the least performing batsman. When picking a team for a new series the review shows Bailey is the one to make way for inclusion of a player that can enhance a developing team. Bailey has been a short form performer against all countries and in their countries, so saying he isn't suited to their attack and conditions is rubbish.

Just say he has been sent to find form in the Shield, just as has happened for decades. We'll explain to kids that the real world means fighting back from being dropped

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:12 GMT)

So since being dropped Hughes averages 63 & Marsh averages 25. What an odd selection.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 2:08 GMT)

this is not fair......

Posted by Will90 on (January 20, 2014, 2:02 GMT)

So Marsh has hit one-day form at the right time. I would want to see him at 3, the top order needs another steady player. Faulkner might also get a go to see whether he could be the new Michael Bevan in Tests as well.

Posted by RahulFantasyCricket on (January 20, 2014, 2:02 GMT)

No real surprises from this squad. But I reckon Marsh would do a better job than Doolan at No 3. This will be a real litmus test for this aging Aussie team. Their top order will be particularly under fire.

Posted by 95shankar on (January 20, 2014, 2:00 GMT)

This was bound to happen. Bailey came to india and scored a ton of runs against a weak and horrible bowling attack that just gifted the batsmen more than half their runs and everyone hyped him up so much. But when he played in the ashes his true abilities were revealed. It was clear that bailey doesnt have the ability to tackle quality bowlers. Bailey being dropped is hardly a surprise.

Posted by Nickedit on (January 20, 2014, 1:57 GMT)

Bailey and Phil Hughes are very stiff! I can't see what Marsh or Doolan have done to be overtaking them. Marsh in 13 seasons has a first class average of 35 and is below that this year (31). They picked Bailey on ODI form and now doing the same with Marsh it seems. Doolan is high 30's for his career and this year. Phil Hughes should have been there both on age, stats (45 average in 1st class and 50 this year) and the fact that he's been successful in RSA before. He is clearly the best young batsman in the country and has the ability to score big hundreds. I wish Marsh and Doolan well, but doubt they'll make it. Expect to see Hughes back next season.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:57 GMT)

I hope this series will b gud...aus btng vs steyn gun

Posted by Gordon2072 on (January 20, 2014, 1:56 GMT)

At least a dozen players have scored more runs in the Sheffield shiel than Marsh this season who have every right to feel aggrieved. Very unusual selection criteria by selectors.

Posted by fetchy49 on (January 20, 2014, 1:56 GMT)

Why do you not just keep the same team that won 5-0 in the ashes! Bailey didnt play that badly, he made a half century and some other good scores, i am completely confused!

Good to see Doolan and Marsh i think that is a good selection. However i would've selected Hazlewood, Bollinger or Coulter-nile instead of Bird to play on the bouncy decks in South-Africa. Bird is a fantastic swing bowler but for me he is not quick enough to trouble the world-class south African batsmen. He is tall so he will get some extra bounce so it isn't that bad a selection but I would rather one of the other three.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 20, 2014, 1:55 GMT)

SA's turn to face the heat from terminators from DU.The best pace attack in world of the ressurgent young Aus is out to prove SA is o/rated. And Mitch to 'break' SA hearts!

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:55 GMT)

First Class Average

Marsh - 35.02 - 85 matches Doolan - 37.92 - 53 matches Burns - 40.73 - 36 matches Lynn - 43.25 - 26 matches

Current Form 2013/14 Sheffield Sheild

Marsh - 248 runs @ 31.00 Doolan - 391 @ 39.10 Burns - 305 @ 50.83 Lynn - 405 @ 57.85

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:51 GMT)

Wasn't the last time Marsh played was VS India in 2011-2012?

Posted by anospi on (January 20, 2014, 1:47 GMT)

Axing Bailey for Doolan is a joke. In his last four Shield games Doolan has scored 203 runs at 25.38. He's barely scored a run in T20 either. Bailey should definitely have been given a chance on this tour. I only hope Marsh gets his spot in the XI, and at least does something with his opportunity. He was woeful against India in 2012.

Posted by kensohatter on (January 20, 2014, 1:46 GMT)

Fantastic squad and exactly the one I picked in the comments of a previous article. Have seen on Twitter and comments at the announcement complaints about the non selection of Hughes... Wasnt he completly exposed outside off stump by the medium pace of NZ!?! Sure hes scored some runs domestically since then but Marsh and Doolan are better options in the make up of this team. The available slot is no.6 in between the strokemaking of Smith and aggressive counterpunching of Haddin. We need a rock like Marsh similiar to what Rogers does at the top of the order. Someone to stabilise rather than being 90/5 and relying on Haddin and the tail. Bowling attack is also well balanced. Coulter Nile just doesnt have Birds control at this stage. Like I said great squad and one that can suprise SA.

Posted by wix99 on (January 20, 2014, 1:44 GMT)

Good work by the selectors. I am sure Shaun Marsh will perform much better in his second opportunity at Test cricket.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:39 GMT)

They should have played Cameron White instead of Marsh

Posted by Dashgar on (January 20, 2014, 1:38 GMT)

Great to see Bird and Pattinson back. I hope Faulkner gets a chance at 6 or 7 ahead of Shaun Marsh.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 1:35 GMT)

This is a disgrace, I ask anyone to go over Shaun Marsh first class record and point out why he deserves a game in the even a 3rd Xl. ie First X1 Rogers, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Smith, Watson, Haddin, Johnson, Harris, Siddle, Lyon 2nd X1 Klinger, Cosgrove, North, Voges, Fergusson, C White, Wade, Pattinson, Bird, Coulter-Nile, O Keefe 3rd X1 Silk, Quiney, Cowan, Doolan, Bailey, Khawaja, Paine, Sayers, Bollinger, Hazleewood, Agar. I can find a spot for Marsh in the fourth XI though.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:34 GMT)

Bailey showed more cricket character in Ashes, so he should be in the team

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:34 GMT)

shame for Bailey deserved one more crack... Good selection of marsh but dont understand all the fuss about Alex Doolan. looks very avarage player. At least marsh has proved in one day cricket he belongs at international level.

Posted by derpherp on (January 20, 2014, 1:33 GMT)

Doolan and Marsh. Horrible choices.....

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:30 GMT)

good decision by cricket Australia to drop bailey. doolan should bat at no 3 and Watson at no 6. pattinson and bird are good bowlers aas backup.

Posted by PENlS on (January 20, 2014, 1:29 GMT)

good move. Marsh at 3 and Watson at 6 is much better

Posted by Draconarius on (January 20, 2014, 1:27 GMT)

Oh good God, not Shaun Marsh. Keep Bailey, bring in Hughes, do ANYTHING but let Marsh get within earshot of the Test team again. He is a terrible batsman who lucked out in his first game and was then found out by one of the worst attacks in world cricket. He's not even that good in Shield, how on earth did he even get into contention!?

Posted by nthuq on (January 20, 2014, 1:26 GMT)

Marsh and Doolan in? I guess the team picks itself then.

Warner, Rogers, Watson, Clarke, Smith, Faulkner, Haddin, Johson, Harris, Siddle, Lyon.

Unless one of Marsh or Doolan scores a big century in the warm up game, this is the only lineup that makes sense.

Posted by pvck on (January 20, 2014, 1:23 GMT)

Don't see how players like Marsh and Doolan (and Bailey and Quiney before them) are near the national team. A FC average of 35 shouldn't get you near the test squad, if we're picking a reserve batsman it's got to be Phil Hughes, or someone the right side of thirty - why no Chris Lynn?

Posted by Shaggy076 on (January 20, 2014, 1:23 GMT)

Just when you thought the Australian selectors were getting things right they come out with the biggest mistake of all time. Shaun Marsh has ONE first class hundred in the last 3 years since being dropped from the test side for averaging 1.5 in a full series against the very limited Indian attack. I once had fallen to the Shaun Marsh looks classy spell but then started following his results and lets face is results is what it is about. I'm not happy about Doolan being in before Hughes but Im absolutely livid at Shaun Marsh getting selected before at least 10 players that could easily be rattled off ie Voges, Hughes, Klinger, White, Cosgrove, Cowan, Khawaja, Burns, Ferguson, Silk etc etc.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:22 GMT)

How must Philip Hughes (and to a lesser extent Usman Khawaja) feel right now. Given that Hughes has had a great summer in the Sheffield Shield and has had success last time around in South Africa what is real reason he is not in the squad?

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:20 GMT)

Glad Shaun Marsh is back... He's such a dependable player & classy too ...

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:16 GMT)

only Australia can do this..change the squad even after 5-0....I guess he should have been given one more chance

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:14 GMT)

I like it.

Posted by   on (January 20, 2014, 1:10 GMT)

looks like Doolan gonna play at 6th spot. marsh wont get to play unless watson gets unfit

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