Australia in South Africa 2013-14 January 28, 2014

Faulkner ruled out of South Africa Test tour

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James Faulkner has been ruled out of Australia's Test tour of South Africa due to a knee injury and Shaun Marsh and Jackson Bird are still in doubt and will remain in Australia for further assessment while the rest of the squad departs on Wednesday.

Faulkner has been replaced in the squad by fellow allrounder Moises Henriques, who played his only three Tests on the tour of India early last year and will fly to South Africa after playing in Wednesday's first Twenty20 against England in Hobart. Faulkner will have arthroscopic surgery on his right knee on Tuesday after picking up an injury during Sunday's final one-day international against England in Adelaide.

"James' exact rehab plan and return to training and playing will be determined after surgery but unfortunately for him, he will not be available for the upcoming Test tour of South Africa," the team physio Alex Kountouris said. "We are hopeful that he will recover in time to play the Twenty 20 games on that tour and take part in the ICC World Twenty20."

Faulkner's presence in the Test squad would have given the selectors another option for balancing the side in South Africa if they chose to move the wicketkeeper Brad Haddin up to No.6. Henriques appears much less likely to play in the Tests than Faulkner would have; Henriques played three Sheffield Shield matches in the first half of the season and scored 202 runs at 33.66 and took five wickets at 36.60.

In the last Shield match before the break for the BBL, Henriques scored 127 against South Australia, and he said that innings helped him gain some momentum heading in to the Twenty20 tournament. The challenge of Test cricket in South Africa against an attack boasting the top two bowlers on the ICC's Test rankings will be immense, but Henriques believes his batting has improved in the past few seasons.

"I certainly feel like my batting has progressed over the last couple of years ... I feel like I'm learning quicker now," Henriques said. "It's going to be tough. It will be completely different conditions in South Africa so I'll have to learn on the go over there. Their bowling attack will be very different to the bowling attack that India threw at us in the Test series over there."

The Australians also have concerns over the fitness of Marsh, who strained his calf during the ODI victory in Adelaide. Marsh had been scheduled to travel to South Africa on Tuesday night but instead will remain in Perth for further treatment over the coming days and Cricket Australia said in a statement that "a decision on whether he will travel to South Africa will be made in due course".

Similar doubts will keep Bird in Australia while the rest of the squad departs. Bird jarred his back while fielding for the Melbourne Stars in a BBL match last week and Cricket Australia confirmed he will remain in Hobart "to be assessed by CA's medical staff and return to bowling to determine if he has recovered sufficiently enough to take his place on the South Africa tour".

Bird was unlikely to be in the starting XI for the first Test in Centurion, given the success of the pace trio of Mitchell Johnson, Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle during the Ashes. However, when the squad was named last week there appeared a strong chance that Marsh would be part of the starting XI, given the absence of the incumbent No.6 George Bailey from the squad.

The majority of Australia's Test players will depart for South Africa over the next two days, although their first official tour match does not begin until next Wednesday in Potchefstroom. Faulkner had been the only player from the Test squad also named for the T20s against England over the coming week; his place in the T20 squad will now be taken by the fast bowler Kane Richardson.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | January 29, 2014, 6:14 GMT

    @Mitty2. Totally agree he is a batsman who bowls well, but no means a front line bowler. I was surprised that a bowling allrounder was replaced by a batting allrounder, that didn't make sense, but if Marsh does pull out perhaps they'll bring in a bowler although Hughes has the runs on the board to get first call. As much as I admire MoHen, I think he is still underdone for tests given the way he has been punted about this season, but I guess you take any opening offered. Too bad Cutting fell so far away after the Ryobi Cup, he did impress me greatly during it.

  • POSTED BY on | January 28, 2014, 21:28 GMT

    really gutted for James Faulkner. this guy has great talent. and almost more important, is a real in your face cricketer. Australia's equivalent of Ben Stokes.

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | January 28, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    I don't know what all the worry is about. Philander, as pointed out in an article elsewhere in this site, is too slow to play for Australia (I'd also suggest he's too short). You could add to this that Steyn is probably too old and Morkel has a run-up that makes him look like a children's entertainer's portrayal of a popular blue tank engine. Australia's bowling, on the other hand, is the best in the world, so we've been told. So why the necessity for an all-rounder (like Faulkener or Henriques)? Maybe we should take a dose of the reality salts and just pick the best we've got based on actual FC/Test career records. There seems to be more mix 'n' match going on than you'll see on those lifestyle tv channels. I doubt the Saffers will be doing the same.

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 28, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    @ izzidole, Faulkner isn't even in the 1st Test XI, his absence hardly requires the filling of some mysterious massive void. Yes, he's showed promise, and one 4-match series is hardly sufficient to determine a players worth.

  • POSTED BY izzidole on | January 28, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    Henriques is lucky to get selected again into the Australian cricket team after several failures and chances in the past. He is touted as a genuine allrounder by the selectors but has hardly delivered. He showed a lot of promise when he scored a brilliant 80 odd runs in the first test in India last year but just faded away after that and I reckon was dropped midway in the test series. This is another good opportunity for him to prove that he is good enough to replace the massive void created by the absence of James Faulkner. It's now high time for him to seal his place as a permanent member of the Australian cricket team in both test and limited overs cricket.

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 28, 2014, 11:02 GMT

    @ Mitty2, re: Henriques bowling, I can't recall how he fared with the ball in India (I may have repressed some of that tour) but generally when I see him bowl he isn't real quick, doesn't do a lot, just hits the spot and might nip it around a little...that could be just the ticket in SA.

    As for Bird's "jarred back", whatever the medical explanation, I did it as a young fella...could hardly breathe for 5 mins, couldn't walk for several hours without support, intense pain for a few days after but all good after a week or so. Could be bad for him, and he could be fine right now. I'd back him to be fit to tour.

  • POSTED BY anton1234 on | January 28, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Henriques really needs to grab the opportunity should he get a chance to play. I doubt he will play in any of the tests. Don't rate Dan Christian at all as an allrounder in the longer form. I think Ben Cutting has potential to become a good allrounder but needs to improve his bowling. At the moment his bowling feels like it will be cannon fodder for quality batsmen. Cutting will definitely play a lot of T20I though. He hits sixes in the Big Bash almost at will.

    By the way, Ryse, I couldn't agree more with your following statement: "Test = best and by a long way, then t20, then ZZZ ODI"

    I really do find ODIs dull. I think ODIs are unnecessary now that T20s have really come on. Much of an ODI match is spent nurdling the ball around for 35-40 overs of the innings and the players just seem to go through the motions.

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 9:50 GMT

    @samgannon22, I think you're confusing Henriques for S Marsh...

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 9:40 GMT

    Hah, well done @chris_P. Have seen a few of your Henriques posts and there's definitely a lot of sense there. But whenever I see a 130-135 km/h seam bowling batting all rounder I think I automatically negatively stereotype it ;). Twatto has scarred me. But anyway, to that barely repressed India series, he was allowed to debut because of taking 4/10 on a tour match correct? Actually I think at that stage he was averaging 70 in the Shield (one big not out innings) so maybe I'm wrong, but I was pinning my hopes on his bowling. It was misplaced - he had a very good debut innings, was run out in another and was unlucky in one dismissal (and this all in very tough conditions) - but he disappointed with the ball (was trash actually). I can't base his bowling all on that one performance, but I'm of the view that he's a batter who bowls. He should be selected on his batting form, and ignoring the India odi fiasco he hasn't got the necessary FC form.

  • POSTED BY inefekt on | January 28, 2014, 9:40 GMT

    I think it was a miracle that Australia beat England 5-0 in the Ashes. The only way that was every going to happen was for one or two Aussies to have the series of their lives and for England's far superior batting lineup to fail like they've never failed before. And that's exactly what happened. Us Aussie fans are in for a rude shock in the next few weeks when our team comes back to earth with a huge THUD. The staggeringly inept selectors aren't helping. I fee like we're about to see a repeat of the disastrous Indian tour from last year.

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | January 29, 2014, 6:14 GMT

    @Mitty2. Totally agree he is a batsman who bowls well, but no means a front line bowler. I was surprised that a bowling allrounder was replaced by a batting allrounder, that didn't make sense, but if Marsh does pull out perhaps they'll bring in a bowler although Hughes has the runs on the board to get first call. As much as I admire MoHen, I think he is still underdone for tests given the way he has been punted about this season, but I guess you take any opening offered. Too bad Cutting fell so far away after the Ryobi Cup, he did impress me greatly during it.

  • POSTED BY on | January 28, 2014, 21:28 GMT

    really gutted for James Faulkner. this guy has great talent. and almost more important, is a real in your face cricketer. Australia's equivalent of Ben Stokes.

  • POSTED BY ygkd on | January 28, 2014, 20:42 GMT

    I don't know what all the worry is about. Philander, as pointed out in an article elsewhere in this site, is too slow to play for Australia (I'd also suggest he's too short). You could add to this that Steyn is probably too old and Morkel has a run-up that makes him look like a children's entertainer's portrayal of a popular blue tank engine. Australia's bowling, on the other hand, is the best in the world, so we've been told. So why the necessity for an all-rounder (like Faulkener or Henriques)? Maybe we should take a dose of the reality salts and just pick the best we've got based on actual FC/Test career records. There seems to be more mix 'n' match going on than you'll see on those lifestyle tv channels. I doubt the Saffers will be doing the same.

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 28, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    @ izzidole, Faulkner isn't even in the 1st Test XI, his absence hardly requires the filling of some mysterious massive void. Yes, he's showed promise, and one 4-match series is hardly sufficient to determine a players worth.

  • POSTED BY izzidole on | January 28, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    Henriques is lucky to get selected again into the Australian cricket team after several failures and chances in the past. He is touted as a genuine allrounder by the selectors but has hardly delivered. He showed a lot of promise when he scored a brilliant 80 odd runs in the first test in India last year but just faded away after that and I reckon was dropped midway in the test series. This is another good opportunity for him to prove that he is good enough to replace the massive void created by the absence of James Faulkner. It's now high time for him to seal his place as a permanent member of the Australian cricket team in both test and limited overs cricket.

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 28, 2014, 11:02 GMT

    @ Mitty2, re: Henriques bowling, I can't recall how he fared with the ball in India (I may have repressed some of that tour) but generally when I see him bowl he isn't real quick, doesn't do a lot, just hits the spot and might nip it around a little...that could be just the ticket in SA.

    As for Bird's "jarred back", whatever the medical explanation, I did it as a young fella...could hardly breathe for 5 mins, couldn't walk for several hours without support, intense pain for a few days after but all good after a week or so. Could be bad for him, and he could be fine right now. I'd back him to be fit to tour.

  • POSTED BY anton1234 on | January 28, 2014, 10:01 GMT

    Henriques really needs to grab the opportunity should he get a chance to play. I doubt he will play in any of the tests. Don't rate Dan Christian at all as an allrounder in the longer form. I think Ben Cutting has potential to become a good allrounder but needs to improve his bowling. At the moment his bowling feels like it will be cannon fodder for quality batsmen. Cutting will definitely play a lot of T20I though. He hits sixes in the Big Bash almost at will.

    By the way, Ryse, I couldn't agree more with your following statement: "Test = best and by a long way, then t20, then ZZZ ODI"

    I really do find ODIs dull. I think ODIs are unnecessary now that T20s have really come on. Much of an ODI match is spent nurdling the ball around for 35-40 overs of the innings and the players just seem to go through the motions.

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 9:50 GMT

    @samgannon22, I think you're confusing Henriques for S Marsh...

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 9:40 GMT

    Hah, well done @chris_P. Have seen a few of your Henriques posts and there's definitely a lot of sense there. But whenever I see a 130-135 km/h seam bowling batting all rounder I think I automatically negatively stereotype it ;). Twatto has scarred me. But anyway, to that barely repressed India series, he was allowed to debut because of taking 4/10 on a tour match correct? Actually I think at that stage he was averaging 70 in the Shield (one big not out innings) so maybe I'm wrong, but I was pinning my hopes on his bowling. It was misplaced - he had a very good debut innings, was run out in another and was unlucky in one dismissal (and this all in very tough conditions) - but he disappointed with the ball (was trash actually). I can't base his bowling all on that one performance, but I'm of the view that he's a batter who bowls. He should be selected on his batting form, and ignoring the India odi fiasco he hasn't got the necessary FC form.

  • POSTED BY inefekt on | January 28, 2014, 9:40 GMT

    I think it was a miracle that Australia beat England 5-0 in the Ashes. The only way that was every going to happen was for one or two Aussies to have the series of their lives and for England's far superior batting lineup to fail like they've never failed before. And that's exactly what happened. Us Aussie fans are in for a rude shock in the next few weeks when our team comes back to earth with a huge THUD. The staggeringly inept selectors aren't helping. I fee like we're about to see a repeat of the disastrous Indian tour from last year.

  • POSTED BY YL89 on | January 28, 2014, 9:04 GMT

    I thought Henriques did reasonably well and looked ok in trying circumstances at a time when Australia was really unsettled in India, with Faulkner injured he deserves to be the next all round cab off the rank in my opinion.

  • POSTED BY DylanBrah on | January 28, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    Mitch Marsh mustn't be too far away from selection. (wouldn't be my first pick, but the selectors have a fascination with allrounders) M. Marsh has scored 307 runs @38.37, and 7 wickets @36.14. His stats are better this season than Faulkner, Henriques AND his brother Shaun. Actually, I think next summer we will see him in the Test squad. He's not bowling his best, but I think it will improve in the 2nd half of the season. He is also looking to sign with a county team instead of playing in the IPL - so he will have plenty of opportunity to stake his claim for a Test cap.

  • POSTED BY samgannon22 on | January 28, 2014, 7:18 GMT

    Henriques must be the greatest under-achiever in Australian cricket. For ten years we have been hearing about his 'potential' but he just never delivers. How does he keep getting chosen? Unfathomable. Don't get me wrong, I don't want Phil Hughes in the Australian side either. He is like George Bailey - a nicker and always will be. He might get runs in Shield but the Adelaide Oval is hardly a minefield. What's wrong with Cutting or Christian as all-rounders? Both better than Henriques. If they want a left-handed batsman, Dunk has been killing them in Shield and t20. He can also keep better than Wade (wouldn't be hard!)

  • POSTED BY wanatawu on | January 28, 2014, 7:18 GMT

    Think Marsh might also be out, if he is out please replace him with George Bailey who didn't deserved to be dropped in the first place. George Bailey hit the most expensive test over vs James Anderson.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 28, 2014, 6:14 GMT

    Well - u could see the Marsh injury coming from a mile away. The only thing mistake I made in a prediction a week or so ago, was, that he'd actually get injured on the tour. == == == Bad luck for Faulkner - not sold on Henriques being the replacement, although I think he is an improving FC cricketer - but (who would know?) - with all the short format cricket being played. == == == @littleduck on (January 28, 2014, 0:07 GMT) - I agree 1,000,000%! == == == @ Mitty2/Moppa - at least Henriques Shield bating average is better than Marsh! LOL. Also of note - Henriques has a better S/R in the Shield than Siddle!

  • POSTED BY on | January 28, 2014, 6:06 GMT

    big blow..............................

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | January 28, 2014, 6:05 GMT

    @Mitty2, Actually I am a big fan of MoHen ever since he made his debut as an 18yo. It's only been the last couple of seasons he has been delivering on his undoubted potential. Last season in Australia he averaged 60+ with the bat & 20 with the ball. In England with the Australia A he averaged 60+ & about 11 with the ball. He, of course. had a great debut them not so good couple of tests including being run out by Wade for 0 with an awful call. So what do the selectors do at the start of this season? Pick him for India, don't play him while we have Ryobi Cup going on then select him as Captain against England after zero matches! Of course he started slow after that schedule, but I saw his last match against Sth Aust & he was sensational with the bat. He has far more success than Watson in FC, doesn't have the injuries, all in all, a better option than our friend.

  • POSTED BY RYSE on | January 28, 2014, 6:04 GMT

    This is very bad news for Australia.

    Doolan (avg 37.92) and Marsh (avg 35.02) leave a lot to be desired in terms of earning their spots. I concede that Clarke started Test cricket with an FC avg of 36, Trescothick and Vaughan averaged in the high 20's, and all became good to great players.

    But hitting the ground running (in Doolan's case) or exorcising terrifying demons (in Marsh's case) against Steyn, Morkel and Philander is an extremely difficult assignment.

    Marsh's ODI stats are excellent, and his technique (when he's going well) is beautifully crafted, so it makes sense in that capacity.

    Doolan looked a bit terrible in Big Bash, apples and oranges I know, but right down to his technique, which looked a bit unkempt and 'gate-ish'.

    Similarly, I don't believe Jordan Silk is an international cricketer.

    @ODI_BestFormOfCricket - so your username is wrong (Test = best and by a long way, then t20, then ZZZ ODI) and so is dropping Rogers. Leading run-scorer in the 10 ashes tests...

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 28, 2014, 5:23 GMT

    Henriques is a perfect substitute for Fulkner. He is slightly lower in bowling abilities but equally matches faulkner when it comes to batting.

  • POSTED BY cricketsubh on | January 28, 2014, 5:20 GMT

    pick hughes for fulkner australia need young batsmen not all rounders it time for australia to bring young players like madision .burns.silk to pick in the squad becoz i don't think had din and rogers got 1 or mey be 1.5 year left in them had din already said that he want play till 2015 world cup that min he will retire after end of the test series vs india when india tour of austrlia end of 2014 so aus need to think about their future i think they not think about their players retirement to come in future.

  • POSTED BY rustylfc on | January 28, 2014, 5:01 GMT

    Why are the Australian selectors placing so much weight on BBL form? Because before a very important Test series, the administration schedules a meaningless slogfest that no-one apart from the coin counters care about. Its all about the money, the Sheffield Shield makes nothing compared to the BBL. I liked the comment the other day about a specialised FC match between a potential Test XI v best of the rest, but without TV and corporate sponsorship, it won't happen. I wish all the best to the Australian Test team in SA, and would love to see a series win, but I won't be expecting all that much.

  • POSTED BY pitch_curator on | January 28, 2014, 4:53 GMT

    Aussies will miss him more with the bat than with the ball. He has grown into a good finisher and his confidence is high at the moment. Don't think Henriques is anywhere as good. Should they have gone for Mitch Marsh?

  • POSTED BY DragonCricketer on | January 28, 2014, 4:38 GMT

    What a pity with Faulkner. I see him as a real matchwinner for Aust long term. Maybe like a Botham. He is good. Henriques is a class lower. Just like Marsh is a class lower than Hughes !

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | January 28, 2014, 4:26 GMT

    surely phil hughes has to come in for cover at least?? mitch marsh should be chosen instead of moises

  • POSTED BY HatsforBats on | January 28, 2014, 4:19 GMT

    That's poor news for Faulkner; not sure he would've played any tests as I doubt they would want to further weaken our batting by dropping one of the top 6 to accomodate him. Henriques has improved vastly these last few years and provides a decent all-round option, I'd prefer Hopes/Copeland/Butterworth. From experience, Birds injury could be fine in a few days or could last months; Bollinger started the season well (is he injured?), and Behrendorff has impressed me this year (there's a left field selection). Marsh's selection was a joke, completely undeserved, this could be a blessing. Hughes, North, White, Lynn, Pomersbach, Ferguson...these are all more deserving selections.

  • POSTED BY ODI_BestFormOfCricket on | January 28, 2014, 4:05 GMT

    so phip hughes will get a chance in squad, but will not in playing 11. Drop rogers.

  • POSTED BY BradmanBestEver on | January 28, 2014, 4:04 GMT

    Blessing in disguise that Marsh may not go - he was lucky to be selected anyway and does not inspire me as being a quality test player of the future. They should choose Silk, Maddinson or Lynn

  • POSTED BY android_user on | January 28, 2014, 3:58 GMT

    big blow for oz....

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 3:40 GMT

    And to add to the list of better batsmen: silk and maddinson. Doolan has never had a successful FC year to his name, and with only 6 FC centuries I have no idea why he is, or can be selected. Even his 160 odd against SA was more so made against part timers, Tahir and the spud Kleiveldt rather than against Philander + Steyn. He batter at 6 and Vernon and Dale just bowled 40 overs between them - this on top of them having average series' on the flat Aus decks (but did well in Perth). To illustrate my previous point: Doolan made 25 in the FL and before he got out Ben Dorries (the KP Brisbane journalist) was saying embetween how good he was looking and how well he was batting... Until he got out. Marsh and Doolan are the same breed: stay still at the crease with no pre-movements, look fluent for a short while and 'classy', but will do little. Why do the selectors constantly forget that Shaun Marsh averaged 2.85 against the worst bowling line up to tour our shores?

  • POSTED BY featurewriter on | January 28, 2014, 3:39 GMT

    If Marsh is ruled out, I hope they rectify their error by including Hughes. (I'd love for George Bailey to go, but his first-class and Test performances don't warrant it at the moment.) Hughes has previously performed well in SA - and his first-class form has been brilliant. If Bird misses out, I hope they give Cutting a crack.

  • POSTED BY DylanBrah on | January 28, 2014, 3:38 GMT

    Hope Henriques will only carry the drinks this series.

  • POSTED BY VivGilchrist on | January 28, 2014, 2:57 GMT

    I do not see what the selectors see in Henriques, just like I don't know what they see in Marsh. I hope that if Bird is anable for the SA tour the selectors pick Sayers but I have no doubt NCN will be there pick. As they have proved, performing in the Shield doesn't seem to count to selectors any more.

  • POSTED BY sifter132 on | January 28, 2014, 2:39 GMT

    Was Faulkner really going to play much in the Tests? Australia haven't needed a 4th paceman all summer, why weaken their batting to pick one? Especially when Watson can bowl handy overs. Haven't seen much from Faulkner in red ball cricket anyway...all the selectors could talk about on his selection was 'toughness'. That's great, but can he move the ball and/or bowl quick enough to trouble Test quality batters? Not that I've seen.

  • POSTED BY cricketsubh on | January 28, 2014, 2:14 GMT

    bad selection to pick henrigues for fulkner aus can easyly pick hughes or madison for fulkner aus got watson as a allrounder in the squad picking 2 allrounders is too much i think aus need to pick test players not odi t20 players like henriques or maxwell like players if marsh out i pick hughes or madsion in the squad.

  • POSTED BY ActionJacksonMan on | January 28, 2014, 2:05 GMT

    Get Phil Hughes on the plane. He should have been part of the original squad anyway.

  • POSTED BY TEST_CRICKET_ONLY on | January 28, 2014, 1:43 GMT

    The injury gods have intervened to fix one selection mistake, now how about Marsh ?

  • POSTED BY ShutTheGate on | January 28, 2014, 1:40 GMT

    Australia has been really unlucky with fast bowler injuries of late.

    I suppose there is a question to be answered if Marsh is unfit - does Hughes get called up or does Bailey get another shot?

    And if Bird is unfit is Coulter-Nile next in line?

  • POSTED BY swark on | January 28, 2014, 1:30 GMT

    "Henriques appears much less likely to play in the Tests than Faulkner would have; Henriques played three Sheffield Shield matches in the first half of the season and scored 202 runs at 33.66 and took five wickets at 36.60."

    This is better or worse than Faulkner who has scored 147 runs at 36.75 and taken four wickets at 43?

  • POSTED BY dutchy on | January 28, 2014, 1:25 GMT

    Didn't Faulkner's presence in the squad give the selectors the option of unbalancing the side? You know like Henriques did in India. Can we stop it with the bits and pieces all rounders, please - we are not England in the 1990s.

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 1:10 GMT

    Oh and what is a "jarred back"? How can you jar a back?? If Bird - who's in far better form than Patto (who's useless atm when he's bowling under 140km/h - just check how he did against England bowling at 130km/h in the winter ashes) - with a supposed 'jarred back' (whatever that is, let alone is it even possible), doesn't make it (reckon it's just precautionary) than the most performed FC bowler of the last two years has to come in. I may be hesitant about his slower pace, but when you play at the flattest wicket in the land which is even slower now with the drop in, and you're a seamer, and you average 22 with the ball, you're some sort of bowler. Chadd Sayers will be tried eventually, and currently I'd prefer him over Pattinson. Can Sayers play the Philander type role?

  • POSTED BY blink182alex on | January 28, 2014, 1:03 GMT

    Same old same old with Shaun Marsh, i have never seen a specalist batsmen so frequently injured. We should of just picked the same 11 as we did through the Ashes, if Bailey really couldn't hack it against their pacers after 2 tests then we could of made a change.

    Don't know what the selectors see in Henriques, he is just average, no where near good enough to warrant a place in the side as a batsmen or bowler, the selectors seem to have this obsession with all rounders, yet we have a perfectly good one in Shane Watson averaging over 40 as a number 3.

  • POSTED BY on | January 28, 2014, 0:57 GMT

    Not sure any of it matters too much, these guys are not first xi players when everyone is fit. It'd be nice if they put a line through Marsh's name now and picked up a Lynn, North or Hughes. With Marsh's record on injuries it's hard to see him playing any more cricket between now and the warm up and you would think our first xi will play there, so really, what is the point of keeping him in?

  • POSTED BY ProfJ on | January 28, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    South Africa are going to be bummed if Marsh is ruled out. Australia might replace him with a real test batsman.

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 0:43 GMT

    It's just ridiculous. Everything is wrong. Let's start with the trivial t20 aquad... Kane Richardson? He's only good for his beard. John Hastings has had the far better BBL. Another example of selectors selecting on whims rather than domestic form.

    Whim #2: Shaun Marsh. Average 26 in the last 3 years with just how many FC centuries? One or two? He's played 10 years and will never be anything but 'SOS' as he'll never deliver on whatever promise is there and will never do well in FC. No temperament and no mental strength - he's like Shane Watson, but he can't bowl. Hopefully he gets injured so the far superior Hughes can come in.

    Whim #3: Doolan. Better shield bats this year: north, head, cooper, klinger, burns, lynn, white, voges, hughes, etc. Plus all of them probably have better FC averages. Doolan is the man to make a nice 30 with little substance and then get out. Even Bailey adds more.

    Whim #4: Henriques. Because, 1) we don't need an all rounder and 2) his bowling is dreadful.

  • POSTED BY Barnesy4444 on | January 28, 2014, 0:39 GMT

    If Marsh can't make the tour that would open up a free batting spot for somebody such as, well, HUGHES! Batting Warner at 3, Watson 6 with Hughes opening would actually strengthen the batting rather than a dead weight of another Quiney type selection.

  • POSTED BY IMKailash on | January 28, 2014, 0:38 GMT

    Pretty bad news for Faulkner but Cutting might be better choice

  • POSTED BY Moppa on | January 28, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    Faulkner is a big loss, and Henriques a dubious replacement. While Faulkner could hold down a position in a four man bowling attack, the same cannot be said of Moises. Further, I think Henriques is a bit of a slow wicket batsman, and would be vulnerable in South Africa (if he plays, which he won't). What this selection shows is that the selectors have clearly prescribed 'all-rounder' slots in the squad, and don't see Faulkner as a bowler whose batting is a bonus and offers flexibility. Rather the flexibility is the prerequisite. Generally, I think this is a poor approach to selection. All we can hope now is that Bird is fit to tour and Marsh is not.

  • POSTED BY littleduck on | January 28, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    Moises Henriques? What does Ben Cutting have to do to get a game?

  • POSTED BY cccrider on | January 28, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    Like for like change - Moises is not good enough at either discipline for tests.

  • POSTED BY shewal on | January 28, 2014, 0:03 GMT

    Faulkner will be Fit fr IPL...

  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | January 27, 2014, 23:43 GMT

    Watson dodges another bullet. Faulkner should have replaced him, moved to 6 and Doolan at 3

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  • POSTED BY MinusZero on | January 27, 2014, 23:43 GMT

    Watson dodges another bullet. Faulkner should have replaced him, moved to 6 and Doolan at 3

  • POSTED BY shewal on | January 28, 2014, 0:03 GMT

    Faulkner will be Fit fr IPL...

  • POSTED BY cccrider on | January 28, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    Like for like change - Moises is not good enough at either discipline for tests.

  • POSTED BY littleduck on | January 28, 2014, 0:07 GMT

    Moises Henriques? What does Ben Cutting have to do to get a game?

  • POSTED BY Moppa on | January 28, 2014, 0:29 GMT

    Faulkner is a big loss, and Henriques a dubious replacement. While Faulkner could hold down a position in a four man bowling attack, the same cannot be said of Moises. Further, I think Henriques is a bit of a slow wicket batsman, and would be vulnerable in South Africa (if he plays, which he won't). What this selection shows is that the selectors have clearly prescribed 'all-rounder' slots in the squad, and don't see Faulkner as a bowler whose batting is a bonus and offers flexibility. Rather the flexibility is the prerequisite. Generally, I think this is a poor approach to selection. All we can hope now is that Bird is fit to tour and Marsh is not.

  • POSTED BY IMKailash on | January 28, 2014, 0:38 GMT

    Pretty bad news for Faulkner but Cutting might be better choice

  • POSTED BY Barnesy4444 on | January 28, 2014, 0:39 GMT

    If Marsh can't make the tour that would open up a free batting spot for somebody such as, well, HUGHES! Batting Warner at 3, Watson 6 with Hughes opening would actually strengthen the batting rather than a dead weight of another Quiney type selection.

  • POSTED BY Mitty2 on | January 28, 2014, 0:43 GMT

    It's just ridiculous. Everything is wrong. Let's start with the trivial t20 aquad... Kane Richardson? He's only good for his beard. John Hastings has had the far better BBL. Another example of selectors selecting on whims rather than domestic form.

    Whim #2: Shaun Marsh. Average 26 in the last 3 years with just how many FC centuries? One or two? He's played 10 years and will never be anything but 'SOS' as he'll never deliver on whatever promise is there and will never do well in FC. No temperament and no mental strength - he's like Shane Watson, but he can't bowl. Hopefully he gets injured so the far superior Hughes can come in.

    Whim #3: Doolan. Better shield bats this year: north, head, cooper, klinger, burns, lynn, white, voges, hughes, etc. Plus all of them probably have better FC averages. Doolan is the man to make a nice 30 with little substance and then get out. Even Bailey adds more.

    Whim #4: Henriques. Because, 1) we don't need an all rounder and 2) his bowling is dreadful.

  • POSTED BY ProfJ on | January 28, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    South Africa are going to be bummed if Marsh is ruled out. Australia might replace him with a real test batsman.

  • POSTED BY on | January 28, 2014, 0:57 GMT

    Not sure any of it matters too much, these guys are not first xi players when everyone is fit. It'd be nice if they put a line through Marsh's name now and picked up a Lynn, North or Hughes. With Marsh's record on injuries it's hard to see him playing any more cricket between now and the warm up and you would think our first xi will play there, so really, what is the point of keeping him in?