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Warner comments 'sour grapes' - SA

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February 26, 2014

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David Warner tries to negotiate a short ball, South Africa v Australia, 2nd Test, Port Elizabeth, 4th day, February 23, 2014
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South Africa have reacted to David Warner's comments about their tactics for extracting reverse swing in Port Elizabeth by calling them "sour grapes" and the coach Russell Domingo will use them as extra motivation.

In a radio interview, Warner raised questions about how South Africa managed to find considerably more reverse than Australia during the second Test - the most stark example being Dale Steyn's memorable spell on the fourth afternoon - and suggested they will be making the umpires more aware of anything they feel is untoward.

Domingo said: "It's always disappointing to hear comments like that. We are a very motivated team and this has probably added 10% to our motivation levels to show David Warner and the Australians that we don't play our cricket like that. We pride ourselves on playing cricket honestly. It's not a nice comment to make. It's not nice when one team accuses another of whatever."

Earlier, the South Africa team manager Mohammad Moosejee told the Cape Times: "David Warner's remarks are disappointing and discouraging. It takes the gloss off a great Proteas team performance. It smacks of sour grapes and it could just be a tactical plan to get us involved in matters that will distract our attention from this crucial Test in Cape Town."

Moosajee then took at dig at Warner by adding: "Hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway."

Warner has been in impressive form during this series with 263 runs in four innings although has benefited from some poor catching by the South Africans.

He and Chris Rogers added 126 for the first wicket in Australia's Port Elizabeth chase, but Warner's dismissal to JP Duminy gave South Africa their opening and they stormed through it during the final session as they claimed nine wickets to level the series.

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Posted by tp565 on (March 2, 2014, 4:18 GMT)

Well there is good karma - Warner correctly noting ABDV giving the ball a working over with the gloves; then going on to score a brilliant 135 yesterday. Then there is bad Karma - Cptn Smith's arrogance remarks in the lead up to this match and now poor Dale Steyn slipping on a grape just outside the boundary ropes. I'd hate to be any part of the furniture in the SA dressing room at the moment.

Posted by   on (March 2, 2014, 1:52 GMT)

Australia will be thanking South Africa team manager Mohammad Moosejee for saying "Hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway." Warner must have taken the hint and let his bat do the talking.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (March 1, 2014, 3:19 GMT)

I have found that in Australia , in WI vs Australia games that 100% of all umpiring "errors" tend to favor Australia. It does not "even out" over time as it does in other parts of the world , where you get one against you and then one in your favor.....

Posted by Usmaan21 on (February 28, 2014, 7:11 GMT)

Proteaz and OZ are the best teams... no doubt.. but such statements are considered to be poor tactics for distraction...looking forward to a competitive finale...

Posted by SLSup on (February 28, 2014, 5:37 GMT)

On Greatest_Games response to sl_supporter: Funny. True. Only, of the 131 games SL vs IND played to a result its 78/53 = difference of only 25 games or 19%. Give us 10 more years and we'll make it even!

Good luck on 3rd Test against the Aussie. SA don't need it though I'd rather Aussies win just so we can make the ICC rankings a bit more competitive! But I dislike the Aussie arrogance and disregard for all things human so much I'd rather live with the rankings as is.

Posted by indianzen on (February 27, 2014, 23:29 GMT)

Sports is second to Sportsmanship. In this regard Aussies, Pakistanis stand the last... An average batsman like Warner can talk so much, think of how much can Amla, Smith can talk... I think Steyn's Bouncer stuck his head and he has been talking to the radio after that ha ha...

Posted by Greatest_Game on (February 27, 2014, 19:35 GMT)

@ sl_supporter cries "Get ready for yet another great Aussie victory in the third test!"

Perhaps you should get ready for yet another thrashing from India?

Posted by punisher601 on (February 27, 2014, 14:52 GMT)

Let Warner say what he likes, it wont help him or his team to play reverse swing any better. The OZ cried that Broad cheated by not walking in the ashes in uk, did Lyon walk when he knicked it? No, did Rogers walk when he knicked it? No. Oz complained that St Georges was not a Mitch pitch and said we doctored the pitch to suit us. The fact is that OZ batsmen struggle against any kind of sideways movement, reverse or conventional. Stop the moaning and whining and get on with it. It really is annoying.

Posted by Rahul_78 on (February 27, 2014, 10:32 GMT)

Agreed no body takes Warner seriously but Faf was penalized not so long ago plus 5 runs were added to opposition score as penalty!

Posted by sl_supporter on (February 27, 2014, 9:22 GMT)

Get ready for yet another great Aussie victory in the third test!

Posted by Yankydoodle on (February 27, 2014, 9:22 GMT)

Australia are not very good losers and have always been a vocal bunch whether their comments make sense or not..

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 8:35 GMT)

The question is, should the South African bowlers limit their skill with the ball just because the Australian (worlds best bowling attack) does not possess the needed skill to reverse the ball nor even the have the coaches to pass on the art. They should just accept it, and work on their bowlers some more...or just get better bowlers...

Posted by Ragav999 on (February 27, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

@spindizzy: I wish there was a way that I could highlight your comment. Very insightful.

Posted by Winsome on (February 27, 2014, 7:59 GMT)

Anybody ask Faf about this? Lol.

Posted by Malik_Murad on (February 27, 2014, 7:36 GMT)

This shows that Aussies believe that they can never be beaten. I think rather using dialogue tactics, the Aussies should accept their batting downfall against SA in the 2nd test and look forward for a great fight against them. The whole cricket world is following this great series and comments like what Warner made will spoil the great charm this Test Series has.

Posted by Mr-ZimCricket on (February 27, 2014, 7:14 GMT)

jibber jabber. it can spice up the game but truth be told south africa in the PE test proved that they have all sorts of ammunition which can help them win a match in a variety of playing conditions. this is the simple reason why they have a good record away from their home conditions, not having lost a series in a good number of years. if Waqar managed to generate that much of reverse swing in different playing conditions, why would Warner run off to think of foul play. thank you Cricket_Man for reminding us that the great Waqar may have had an influence on the great Dale Steyn, and that David Warner of full of Jiber Jabber.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (February 27, 2014, 5:29 GMT)

@ Kasun Maduranga

wrote "The reality is, without Clarke they are not much of a batting side"

Compared to who?

Posted by Marktc on (February 27, 2014, 5:22 GMT)

Have to laugh at some of the comments....perhaps Oz play mind games because they know that they cannot match SA without them. Just something to think about. Why not just shut up and beat SA on the field..

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 5:19 GMT)

"Another Australian poor tactics". Same old fashion Australian technique to divert opposition concentration to some other way. South Africa is number 1 in Test cricket by far and they have a lot of world highest rating players in their squad. Steyn is number 1 bowler and there is no doubt in it. Warner should coach Australian middle & lower order that how to deal Steyn, despite talking negetively.

Posted by Andre117 on (February 27, 2014, 5:01 GMT)

"The only thing that SA should be cranky about is that they didn't think of something similar first. " This is something that Australia has always done. Big talk before a series even starts. "Mental disintegration" is part of their tactics. We have proven on the field that we don't need that.

"Warner eats short pitched stuff for breakfast. " You wouldn't say that if we didn't drop him so often. My point is that he gives too many chances for anyone to say "he eats short pitched stuff for breakfast."

Posted by Cricket_Man on (February 27, 2014, 4:29 GMT)

Reverse swing is an art that can't be possessed by every bowler but can be learned. 3 to 4 years ago Steyn did not reverse the ball. Waqar Younis, an expert of reverse swing bowling, taught him how to do that when Steyn was coached by him at Sunrisers Hyderabad in the IPL. Steyn doesn't acknowledge this much but I am sure Waqar had a huge role in Steyn learning reverse swing.

Posted by LancashireHotSpot on (February 27, 2014, 4:07 GMT)

Of course Warner is at liberty to make whatever public comments he likes and let's be honest they're great entertainment either because they're ridiculous or simply ill-advised. If he or any other player suspects the opposition of ball tampering surely the most sensible course of action would firstly be to bring it to the attention of the umpires during the match and if still not satisfied speak with officials post match. I mean really, if he'd stopped to consider what he was about to put out in the public arena he would surely have realised that it would come across as sour grapes. I'm afraid Moosajee is right, hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway. And who can blame them?!

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 3:43 GMT)

"Hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway." ..how true that is. They'll be lucky if they can hide their batting woes in the next match. The reality is, without Clarke they are not much of a batting side. And if Johnson runs out of steam and form, they wont be much of a bowling side.

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 2:55 GMT)

hahaha love it. Stick it to them Warner.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (February 27, 2014, 2:28 GMT)

The most unfortunate thing about all this - having now see the actual interview - is how badly it has been misrepresented here, both in terms of the content and the spirit of the moment. It is what is left out that I have an issue with. But this is not the first time that this has happened here. These kinds of things appear to deliberately misrepresented to stir up hatred. And that, ironically is far more reprehensible motive than anything Warner has put forward. I suggest people do a little research and find out for themselves.

Posted by CustomKid on (February 27, 2014, 1:07 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx on (February 26, 2014, 14:36 GMT) spot on mate, people just don't get the Aussie way of doing things. He likes to stir the pot and it has worked in this instance, at least with CSA's response and many of their supporters. It will either work or backfire on the park. Gaining a mental edge is a fine line of a few % but it can make a massive difference.

If you take his comments serious you probably need to take a well earned break yourself. Just watch his antics on the field, he clowns around, did the YMCA in the last test and personally I like it. Can you imagine any of the SA robots doing something like that? Sports off the field is a total snooze fest when it comes to players & media, pre scripted rubbish. This guy goes against the grain and it is refreshing.

We're all entitled to a opinion, if you don't like it just ignore it, or fire up over it does it matter? I like Warner and Kohli both feisty and they tell it how it is, not towing the line media managed dribble.

Posted by RYSE on (February 27, 2014, 0:23 GMT)

Nicely done David - got right under their skin and, for those with extremely short memories, hit a nerve that is definitely there to push.

Remember Faf du Plessis scratching the hell out of the ball with his zipper? Yeah, that was recent history.

It does beg serious questions, it did get right up their noses, and Warner in particular is armed to the teeth for any 'backlash' that stems from this (as the best Test opener in the world and the most aggressive Test player in the world to boot).

SAF can preach sour grapes and pretend to take the high road, all the while taking a few little stabs themselves, but the fact is that they make desperate, obvious and regular attempts to scuff the ball to oblivion by launching it into the pitch and scratching it with their flies etc.

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 0:19 GMT)

I would not take any notice of Warner's comments. He has a mouth as large as a rubbish tip which tends to be full of its contents.

Posted by   on (February 27, 2014, 0:00 GMT)

Warner has made no assertion that what SA did was against the laws or spirit of the game. He made an observation on a practice that the South Africans seem to be doing and they intend to clarify the position with the umpires. If it is legal Australia will do it too, if it isn't then it should be brought to the umpire's attention. But the decision on legality has not yet been made.

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (February 26, 2014, 23:44 GMT)

Warner's integrity is very high. He has copped bans, censures, and been forced to make public apologies, not because he lied, but because he said things that the bureacracy didn't want him to say. He has always told the truth, though occasionally he is misinformed. We should know that this is not a publicity stunt. Worst case scenario is that he is misinformed. And the thing is that there is vision of A B de Villiers deliberately scuffing up the ball. Ergo, it did happen. Maybe not enough to warrant a ball tampering charge, but it should be pointed out that 4 months ago several members of the South African team, including Faf du Plessis, were found guilty of just that. South Africans have complained about this en masse but not one of them has denied the charge. So at this stage I am going to say that it is likely that he is right. Warner has no sour grapes. He starred in the first 2 tests. He didn't get out to reverse swing.

Posted by crickeymate on (February 26, 2014, 22:50 GMT)

Having ten percent more motivation doesn't hide the fact that he is right.

Posted by spindizzy on (February 26, 2014, 22:47 GMT)

Claims of 'Sour grapes' have become a standard way of not actually answering claims. You simply play the man, not the issue, and pretend there is no problem.

Ball tampering continues to be a real problem and many teams are caught playing beyond acceptable limits.

Stop using patriotism as a refuge and pull your heads out of your cognitive biases (look it up).

If every time someone raises a real issue, you all revert to circling the wagons around your own prejudices, nothing will ever change for the better.

Posted by shot274 on (February 26, 2014, 22:25 GMT)

Sour grapes for sure. But wasnt it a few test matches ago that South Africa were fined 5 runs for altering the condition of the ball!!!

Posted by RandyOZ on (February 26, 2014, 22:11 GMT)

Warner is surely on to something here. Hopefully the umpires watch them like a hawk next match.

Posted by Bubba2008 on (February 26, 2014, 22:09 GMT)

Warner's shot his mouth off far too many times at this point. I really don't think anyone will take him too seriously, he seems to be full of hot air a lot of the time. And coincidentally enough, it usually seems to happen after a loss or a poor run of form.

Posted by ShutTheGate on (February 26, 2014, 22:05 GMT)

Hook, line and sinker. I don't know if Warner intentionally used this as a tactic but the result has worked out brilliantly. The SA camp are "disappointed" and it's distracting from their preperation.

"Hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway." You obviously do Mohammad. In fact the SA team seem to take everything seriously.

Remember, it is a game and it's supposed to be enjoyable.

Posted by Shongololo on (February 26, 2014, 21:53 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx - you give Warner far too much credit. He's a buffoon, incapable of mind games. Big mouth, very little upstairs. And please, you can't conveniently brush it off as banter - he actually accused the other side of cheating and the fact that he hasn't been hauled over the coals for his outrageous and unsubstantiated remarks, either by Clarke of the ACB, reflects poorly on both.

Posted by DangaGanga on (February 26, 2014, 21:40 GMT)

Warner the most hated man in world cricket how can anyone take him seriously, please don't ruin such a fantastic series with such obnoxious comments. These two matches epitomizes how cricket should be played, good hard cricket with no animosity. Perfect example the South Africans shaking Mitch Johnson hand after his 7fir and the Australlians congratulating AB and Dumont on there tons

Posted by Ally323 on (February 26, 2014, 21:37 GMT)

The Proteas do not play cricket that way. Its sad when the Aussies start with sledging and comments like these to take something away from the World No 1 team. As for scoring 260 runs in the tournament, lets face it - he should have been on about 50 runs for the tournament taking into account he has used 6 of his 9 lives - so Warner really should count his blessings.

Their (Aus) comments shouldnt be taken seriously, but as bad sportsmanship, sour grapes - its exactly what it is. The ICC should not allow these kind of comments and fine David Warner as it puts a bad light on their (the ICC) judgement of Umpiring. In simple terms they are stating that the umpires are not doing their job.

Then Warner wants to know why their bowlers couldnt swing the ball as much as Dale Steyn - well David......this is Dale Steyn and Vernon Philander, no1 and no2 bowlers in the world, not Mitchell Johnson. Ally (Protea in Australia)

Posted by ygkd on (February 26, 2014, 21:02 GMT)

Surely, just the thought of seeing Warner "luck" his way to a score, in his usual style, should be motivation enough for the Proteas. What may be said is best ignored as irrelevant. After all, he's only visiting. He'll be gone soon, although personally, I'd be happy if he stayed put. After all, I'm an Australian.

Posted by thephill on (February 26, 2014, 20:56 GMT)

"...show David Warner and the Australians that we don't play our cricket like that. We pride ourselves on playing cricket honestly." Ummm, weren't south africa charged, and found guilty of ball tampering in their previous series? I'd say Warner has every right to question their methods based on their track record.

Posted by Hello13 on (February 26, 2014, 20:52 GMT)

Typical whinging Australians. Considering they have no clue about how to play in foreign conditions, they should perhaps focus on that first rather than sledging.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (February 26, 2014, 20:31 GMT)

Can't wait for Saturday to start. There is a big humble pie waiting at the airport, feel free to tuck into it on your way back!!! If Abbott plays, its hammer time.

Posted by Henry_Crun on (February 26, 2014, 19:30 GMT)

As to Warners comment making the SA attack even angrier, if that's possible, that would suit Warner down to the ground; he eats short pitched stuff for breakfast. Line and swing troubles him, so why not try to get the SA quicks to headhunt him?

Posted by Henry_Crun on (February 26, 2014, 19:19 GMT)

Warner's comments were gamesmanship, nothing more nothing less, probably orchestrated by Boof and Clarke. Judging on the comments here it's worked perfectly; I doubt that there will be much overt glove rubbing or Steyn ball kicking at Cape Town. The only thing that SA should be cranky about is that they didn't think of something similar first.

Posted by endofageofaquarius on (February 26, 2014, 19:09 GMT)

Or may be Warner is genuinely questioning if the ball was unnaturally scuffed up? Not saying it was but reverse swing will always raise those questions.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 19:02 GMT)

Can't believe some of the crap Warner comes out with. Embarrassing. Should just let his bat do the talking. SA played great cricket on the day, end of story. We will win the next one....

Posted by Chris_P on (February 26, 2014, 18:38 GMT)

You do realize we live in a society where we can express opinions? How is this sour grapes when he didn't offer excuses after India & England? He has an opinion, (rightly or wrongly) & he has expressed it. Seriously, who hasn't ever played a game of cricket & never suspected something going on with ball scuffing or tampering of sorts? It happens in all levels, get serious guys. I would suggest it Steyn (or any bowler) needed this to get fired up, then they is playing the wrong game & for the wrong reason. Move on.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 17:41 GMT)

This is sure to fire up Steyn and Co.Warner is due some unpleasant moments in Newlands. :)

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 17:19 GMT)

This will fire up steyn and hope the match will be over in 3 days .... This guy is just a big-mouth with less talent ....

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (February 26, 2014, 17:03 GMT)

how OZ managed to produce more fast bowlers, how indians managed to give more batsmen like that SA managed to produced reverse swing. Its all about skill. Current oz teams lacks it.

Posted by DylanBrah on (February 26, 2014, 16:32 GMT)

Obviously the vast majority of people take Warner's words seriously if he receives so much hate.

Posted by Martensad on (February 26, 2014, 16:25 GMT)

Most of the Aus wickets did not fall to reverse swing anyway. Warner himself fell to a part time spinner after going for a tonk. And how can you take him seriously

Posted by Big_Chikka on (February 26, 2014, 16:21 GMT)

warner, good or bad could well be the next aussie captain..........i'd take a bet on that.........why, just seems to have the ingredients to love or hate him, with a gutsy spirit to fight, defo worth a gamble as captain in a few years..............especially if he leads with the bat and saffa lose the third test!

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 15:46 GMT)

@xtrafalgarx. Thanks (seriously) for shedding some light on the possible motives of Warner. Makes more sense to me now. The Aussies have mastered the mental game. We are not that good at it but I think we are improving. I think this particular incident may backfire because it is going to give the Proteas more motivation (as if any were needed) to win the last test. I am not saying it is a foregone conclusion...by no means. Either way I think it is going to be one of the most hardly fault tests we will have had the privilege to watch in a while.

Posted by SurlyCynic on (February 26, 2014, 14:53 GMT)

By day 4 that pitch was incredibly dry and abrasive. Have a look at the images of the pitch from before play started.

Just bowling on that pitch would scuff the ball up - that's how reverse swing comes about. Are you seriously saying that AB's gloves roughed the ball up and not that sandpaper-like pitch? Sounds desperate.

Even if the Aussies get their ball roughed-up bowlers like Johnson don't have the best wrist position for reverse swing.

The Aussie team and commenters here are now just coming across as poor losers. What a surprise.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 14:36 GMT)

I suggest that CSA send Warner a big box of tissues .He is such a crier that he should go back to kindergarden.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (February 26, 2014, 14:36 GMT)

@Spiritofcricket99: It's all in jest. I too, a bit like Warner like getting under the oppositions skins. It's like Shane Warne's comments during the ashes in England. All the poms hated him, even when we were losing! That's the point, if you're not winning, do your best to make the opponents win seem feeble.

I can't believe how well it works, but it does! Warner probably laughs himself to sleep at the over the top reactions to his antics. Why is it such a surprise?? Can't you blokes see he is trying to get under your skin???? He is smarter than he looks, he knows what people think of him and he is using it to his advantage. He will continue to do it as long as it works, and judging by the reactions on this post, it does!

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 13:32 GMT)

Australia never can handle losing. They always look to blame the pitch, the other players what ever they can. They were all big talk before the match but now its nothing but whining.

Posted by Spiritofcricket99 on (February 26, 2014, 13:29 GMT)

Some of the Aussies posting here are very sad indeed. Gloating in victory and never accepting defeat graciously. I should remind you that prior to the Ashes victory Australian sport in general was suffering a serious decline - Rugby Union, Olympics, Cricket etc. At least you're still kings of Australian Iron Man - maybe that's why you voted in such a bonehead ex-Iron Man Prime Minster.

SA outplayed in first test. Australia outplayed in second test. Nuff said.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 13:28 GMT)

Not all bowlers can extract reverse swing, this is a fact, it has a lot to do with the wrist and seam position. Mitchel Johnson does not swing the ball a lot, but Mr Steyn does. I guess you can see where I am going with this, I think SA was determined enough to do the work on the ball, and their bowlers had the skill to extrapolate reverse swing. Also they did achieve the reverse swing in the first innings as well, so I guess they were able to tamper with ball in both innings without anyone picking it up.

Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (February 26, 2014, 13:28 GMT)

He he, gotta love Mr Moosajee's remark: "Hardly anyone takes anything David Warner says seriously anyway." Now aint that the truth... I recall a game a few years back, Proteas v Eng when the English seam bowlers extracted a lot of swing and did serious damages and won the game. At the same there was nothing on offer for the SA bowlers. And the SA camp made similar insinuations... Some times the ball swings for you and some times not. Very well played by David Warner though.

As far as I understand, reverse swing

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (February 26, 2014, 13:13 GMT)

So anybody, did it actually rain on the redundant Day 5 of the last game? If there was a sudden, significant change in humidity at the end of Day 4, then that could have been a factor (you agree BigBooHoo)? The pitch for Game 2 was no less a SA-type wicket than Game 1. This might come as a shock, but different pitches are completely different even within the same country. I seem to recall Sydney pitch being much more spin-friendly than other pitches in Australia for example...

Posted by dorothydix on (February 26, 2014, 13:11 GMT)

Typical bad Australian reaction to losing. They've got everything going for them but let themselves down big time when they behave this way. Australia wake up, the rest of the world is not impressed. If they are going to question SA`s integrity do it behind closed doors. Says a lot about ACB when it allows Warner to talk to the media. Still I guess they must think he`s their intellectual giant.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 13:08 GMT)

Warner speaks too much and it is not going to serve him very well in his career... only players who are jealous of their opponent's success will speak in such ridiculous manner... what if the proteas ask Johnson to undergo a dope test? Will Australia oblige? It was a great spell from Steyn and remember, the umpires are not fools to let the proteas bowl with a deteriorated ball and let Warner do the detective's job! He has scored runs thanks to a hell lot of luck both here and in the Ashes... In any case, like the SA manager said, who takes Warner's words seriously? :p

Posted by milepost on (February 26, 2014, 13:07 GMT)

Watch how SA handle the ball in the field and you will see his comments are fair play. They throw it on the ground, step on it and kick it. It was mentioned during the test several times and didn't they get busted for tampering recently? Yes they did.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (February 26, 2014, 12:38 GMT)

Nick, you may be right. I didn't see the interview, but every other interview I've seen with him he is just having fun with reporters. Obviously there are questions about what happened with the scuffing of the ball. They were appearing in some major media before the Warner interview. Warner doesn't seemed too fazed by the haters.

Posted by Testcricketistop on (February 26, 2014, 12:37 GMT)

Warner has been riding his luck, it will soon run out, the Proteas aren't going to keep dropping catches off him, his technique is not sound, he doesn't have a good process of how to select his shots and his aggressive nature precludes him for continuing in the vain he is currently.

Posted by   on (February 26, 2014, 12:33 GMT)

What a laugh. At least the proteas were honest in their defeat. They acknowledged the superior cricket Australia played. This is an embarassment for michael Clarke and his boys.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (February 26, 2014, 12:22 GMT)

"It smacks of sour grapes and it could just be a tactical plan to get us involved in matters that will distract our attention from this crucial Test in Cape Town."

Exactly - I think that's all it was really. A bit of 'banter', and as much as I've been very critical of Warner of the years, I doubt he's really losing much sleep over the whole thing and we should all just see it as the big joke that Warner is anyway. He's certainly rode his luck well in this series, but you have to do that in cricket; so once again the stats will go down in history and fans will use them in the future to argue their points - but they never tell the full story. Ride the crest of the wave whilst it lasts Warner; but there's deep water and sharks underneath it all...

Posted by Not_Another_Keybored_Expert on (February 26, 2014, 11:41 GMT)

Warner was very unlucky to be given out in second innings, but he's comments still don't add up OZ were outplayed in all facets in the second test, it was almost a mirror image of the first test.

Posted by xtrafalgarx on (February 26, 2014, 11:26 GMT)

Love this bloke. Speaks his mind, but backs it up with performances. Averaged 50 odd in the ashes, now he is averaging 65 odd in this series. Good on him.

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