South Africa v India, 1st Test, Centurion, 5th day December 20, 2010

MS Dhoni worried by inept bowling

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MS Dhoni has come down hard on his bowlers after India started yet another tour with a demoralising defeat. "One of the things was we still couldn't get them all out," Dhoni said. "Although we all said the wicket was different to first day, but you have bowled on flatter tracks and you're still expected to get the sides out, so that's an area of concern because to win a Test you have to get 20 wickets."

It was not just the failure to bowl South Africa out that ought to concern India. They conceded 225 runs in one session on the third day, which hastened the declaration from South Africa. The extra time South Africa gained proved to be a big factor in India's fight for a draw. "You're supposed to either take wickets or not let the opposition score at five runs an over in a Test match," Dhoni said. "The conditions are difficult out here, it's not like in India where it's turning and the ball doesn't come on. So you can tie the batsmen down and not let them score at a brisk pace. But over here scoring is quite easy, in the sense once you're set, the ball comes on nicely and you can score on both sides of the wicket. So that's also an area of concern. Even our scoring-rate, despite us losing wickets, was quite good. So that means, the only way out is to take wickets.

"It was difficult because there was not much help from the wicket. Our bowlers are not express quick. They don't generally bowl over 140-plus. They have to be very precise with their line and length. We tried different fields. We tried to work around their bowling aspects, which, more often than not, will work with a set batsman. We tried to contain them but it was not successful for a period of time."

Dhoni was also worried about the over-rates, which could potentially earn him a one-match suspension. "Another area of worry is the over-rate because we were five-and-a-half overs down at one stage," he said. "That's a lot. That's a big worry. We need to step that up. We need to bowl our quota in the time allotted."

Dhoni is looking forward to Zaheer's return, not just for what he does with the ball, but how he leads the attack. "It's not just that when Zaheer plays he always gets wickets," he said when asked if the attack was not even half as effective in Zaheer's absence. "But what is good with him is the amount of experience he has got, the way he comes up with new plans and changes his plans during the course of the game. What we need to see is if he can be there in the next Test, whether we can make something happen on the field."

Dhoni seemed resigned to India's tendency to start Test series poorly. "That's one quality we have," he said. "It's not only in India. Most of the Test series, the first Test has often gone bad, but after that we have come back really well. Again we are back to a start that we are quite used to now, hopefully we will cope with that in the coming two games."

That said, he had a few positives to draw on. "Apart from the first day I think we batted really well," he said. "In the second innings, if you have to achieve 400 or 400-plus score you are under pressure. It may be a flat track, but handling that pressure is very difficult. That [India handled it] is definitely a big positive."

Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at Cricinfo

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  • KAIRAVA on December 23, 2010, 22:56 GMT

    Raina has to sit out for the remainder of the series. He is just not test quality material and his recent performances against mediocre NZ medium pace bowling on flat indian tracks gives enough evidence that his test playing days are over. He averaged just 6.5 in that 3 match test series and now failed for the 4 consecutive time in tests with his inept performance in the 1st test against SA. What's adding salt to injury was the fact that his got out cheaply to the gentle medium pace of Kallis in both the innings of the test, having faced only 2 balls from the two premier SA fast bowlers. One can only imagine what his fate would have been had he got to face more of Steyn and Morkel, on this tracks.

  • on December 23, 2010, 2:39 GMT

    As long as the Indians play for personal glory and records we will never be world classs as a team. Learn from the Aussies who were all but dead in the Ashes series,now have England against the wall.

    It is time to let younsters have a chance.I am tired of banking on sporadic performers like Raina,jadeja and the arrogant Yuvraj.

  • Legendofthegame on December 23, 2010, 0:40 GMT

    PS- news has been that Umesh Yadav managed to tonk Tendulkar on the helmet in pratice when the SA pacers were unable to. That in itself is worth to take a punt on him in the next test, apart from indias general dire situation in pace bowling, Durban is going to be another fast bouncy pitch

  • Legendofthegame on December 23, 2010, 0:21 GMT

    Shaun Pollock already gave a hint that unless you have superior pace, you wont get the best out of SA wickets. This is why Yadav who can bowl in the 140 kphs should have been picked, he may be raw but its the best place for him to start learning. Also its already been suggessted Rainas technique is not ready for test cricket on such a tough tour. Vijay too hasnt impressed when faced with top quality fast bowling. Pujara although also new to the game looked the most technically sound and suitable to tst cricket out of the 3. Hope to see Rahane too given a chance at some stage.

  • East_West on December 22, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    some of our cricketers went in advance to get acclimatized to SA conditions BUT what is the RESULT? I know people criticized me for my statements on Sachin..yes, no doubt! he is a class act, but except HIM no one cared to stay at the crease..Dhoni played like as if we are never going to DRAW anyways, so let me smack it wherever! Have we ever thought, if Sachin wouldn't have played this game, what would have been the scenario!! not even Laxman nor Dravid stepped up the plate!!! that hurts more than anything as an avid cricket watcher!!! We never Cared for BARDI's talent [of all the people DHONI should know better about BARDI], RP was not there...Ashish was not considered....and MITHUN..i bet he has MORE TALENT than Sree, Ishant ..remember there was a time, Jagval or Venkatesh said that the best pair /iswas ZAK and ISHANT..well, what did Ishant do....ZAK is NO STEYN!! "if our cricketers have an IOTA OF SELF-RESPECT and WANT TO STAY #1, then they have to work harder than ever before!!

  • JLRK on December 22, 2010, 20:40 GMT

    The selectors has to do a better job. Taking a 19 year old bowler to bowl against South Africa batsmen in SA is a big mistake. They need to take experience players such as Munaf Patel who bowls more accurately. India does not have express bowlers so they should go with accuracy. Also, Yuvi should have been on that tour. He was dropped from the team which was a good thing but with his talent you dont want to keep him out too long. He is more capable to handle the fast bowling better than Raina.

  • bvnathan on December 22, 2010, 18:04 GMT

    There was a BIG mistake made in the selection of pace bowlers ... Ashish Nehra should have been included in the group, as his exploits with swinging deliveries could have made an impact in the absence of Zaheer Khan Ashish ability to use the swinging conditions is well know and being a lefty and having bowled well in SA conditions that could have been a plus As of today India pace bowling lacks a leadership if Zaheer is not around... Ishant, Sreesanth and others have miles to go to carry that expectation ... Even with the bounce that was available Harbhajan came short .... No wonder it is difficult to fill in the shoes of Anil Kumble ....

    There is no meaning in crying over spilled milk ...

  • East_West on December 22, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    Venkatatesan..excellent input. in addition, there is a huge difference between previous #1 [Aus]and the present so-called #1 [we indians] - CUTTHROAT versus COMPLACENCY....Australia meant business when they were on the field but we, tend to knew that yeah, first TEST is always a warm-up for us then we will show the opponents what we are [it is NOT going to work all the time]!! This is the attitude of present captain and in the past the same as well! WE INDIANS LACK ACCOUNTABILITY, simple as that..and as of now, SA is the best! If we are FLAT TRACK BULLIES, then how come our so-called batting failed??? DO you think Afghanistan would have done that? The way they are fighting, one day they can give us run for the money!! Forget about GlennMcGrath et all, we DO NOT EVEN HAVE the pace caliber of MURTAZA [bangla], RANKIN [ireland]..need I say more!!,

  • on December 22, 2010, 17:30 GMT

    What happened to Abhimanyu Mithun, why Dhoni & the selectors have not given him a chance here in South Africa?!? Why bowlers like Ashis Nehra & Munaf who're better partners for Zaheer do not et a chance into the test side? Looks like only the people like Rainas & Jadejas who're liked by MSD would get a chance!

  • chilled_avenger on December 22, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    The innings loss showed that India may be No.1 in rankings,but they are not as strong(or fierce) as the previous champions Australia and West Indies,as they claim to be.

    Australia whitewashed Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka by 3-0,whitewashed South Africa in South Africa by 3-0,defeated West Indies in West Indies by 3-1,defeated India in India by 2-1,defeated New Zealand in New Zealand by 2-0,whitewashed Pakistan in Sri Lanka/UAE by 3-0.

    India will have to perform well at home as well as away to deserve the coveted No.1 rankings and filling Windies' or Aussies' shoes!Let's see if India is up to the challenge.

  • KAIRAVA on December 23, 2010, 22:56 GMT

    Raina has to sit out for the remainder of the series. He is just not test quality material and his recent performances against mediocre NZ medium pace bowling on flat indian tracks gives enough evidence that his test playing days are over. He averaged just 6.5 in that 3 match test series and now failed for the 4 consecutive time in tests with his inept performance in the 1st test against SA. What's adding salt to injury was the fact that his got out cheaply to the gentle medium pace of Kallis in both the innings of the test, having faced only 2 balls from the two premier SA fast bowlers. One can only imagine what his fate would have been had he got to face more of Steyn and Morkel, on this tracks.

  • on December 23, 2010, 2:39 GMT

    As long as the Indians play for personal glory and records we will never be world classs as a team. Learn from the Aussies who were all but dead in the Ashes series,now have England against the wall.

    It is time to let younsters have a chance.I am tired of banking on sporadic performers like Raina,jadeja and the arrogant Yuvraj.

  • Legendofthegame on December 23, 2010, 0:40 GMT

    PS- news has been that Umesh Yadav managed to tonk Tendulkar on the helmet in pratice when the SA pacers were unable to. That in itself is worth to take a punt on him in the next test, apart from indias general dire situation in pace bowling, Durban is going to be another fast bouncy pitch

  • Legendofthegame on December 23, 2010, 0:21 GMT

    Shaun Pollock already gave a hint that unless you have superior pace, you wont get the best out of SA wickets. This is why Yadav who can bowl in the 140 kphs should have been picked, he may be raw but its the best place for him to start learning. Also its already been suggessted Rainas technique is not ready for test cricket on such a tough tour. Vijay too hasnt impressed when faced with top quality fast bowling. Pujara although also new to the game looked the most technically sound and suitable to tst cricket out of the 3. Hope to see Rahane too given a chance at some stage.

  • East_West on December 22, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    some of our cricketers went in advance to get acclimatized to SA conditions BUT what is the RESULT? I know people criticized me for my statements on Sachin..yes, no doubt! he is a class act, but except HIM no one cared to stay at the crease..Dhoni played like as if we are never going to DRAW anyways, so let me smack it wherever! Have we ever thought, if Sachin wouldn't have played this game, what would have been the scenario!! not even Laxman nor Dravid stepped up the plate!!! that hurts more than anything as an avid cricket watcher!!! We never Cared for BARDI's talent [of all the people DHONI should know better about BARDI], RP was not there...Ashish was not considered....and MITHUN..i bet he has MORE TALENT than Sree, Ishant ..remember there was a time, Jagval or Venkatesh said that the best pair /iswas ZAK and ISHANT..well, what did Ishant do....ZAK is NO STEYN!! "if our cricketers have an IOTA OF SELF-RESPECT and WANT TO STAY #1, then they have to work harder than ever before!!

  • JLRK on December 22, 2010, 20:40 GMT

    The selectors has to do a better job. Taking a 19 year old bowler to bowl against South Africa batsmen in SA is a big mistake. They need to take experience players such as Munaf Patel who bowls more accurately. India does not have express bowlers so they should go with accuracy. Also, Yuvi should have been on that tour. He was dropped from the team which was a good thing but with his talent you dont want to keep him out too long. He is more capable to handle the fast bowling better than Raina.

  • bvnathan on December 22, 2010, 18:04 GMT

    There was a BIG mistake made in the selection of pace bowlers ... Ashish Nehra should have been included in the group, as his exploits with swinging deliveries could have made an impact in the absence of Zaheer Khan Ashish ability to use the swinging conditions is well know and being a lefty and having bowled well in SA conditions that could have been a plus As of today India pace bowling lacks a leadership if Zaheer is not around... Ishant, Sreesanth and others have miles to go to carry that expectation ... Even with the bounce that was available Harbhajan came short .... No wonder it is difficult to fill in the shoes of Anil Kumble ....

    There is no meaning in crying over spilled milk ...

  • East_West on December 22, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    Venkatatesan..excellent input. in addition, there is a huge difference between previous #1 [Aus]and the present so-called #1 [we indians] - CUTTHROAT versus COMPLACENCY....Australia meant business when they were on the field but we, tend to knew that yeah, first TEST is always a warm-up for us then we will show the opponents what we are [it is NOT going to work all the time]!! This is the attitude of present captain and in the past the same as well! WE INDIANS LACK ACCOUNTABILITY, simple as that..and as of now, SA is the best! If we are FLAT TRACK BULLIES, then how come our so-called batting failed??? DO you think Afghanistan would have done that? The way they are fighting, one day they can give us run for the money!! Forget about GlennMcGrath et all, we DO NOT EVEN HAVE the pace caliber of MURTAZA [bangla], RANKIN [ireland]..need I say more!!,

  • on December 22, 2010, 17:30 GMT

    What happened to Abhimanyu Mithun, why Dhoni & the selectors have not given him a chance here in South Africa?!? Why bowlers like Ashis Nehra & Munaf who're better partners for Zaheer do not et a chance into the test side? Looks like only the people like Rainas & Jadejas who're liked by MSD would get a chance!

  • chilled_avenger on December 22, 2010, 17:24 GMT

    The innings loss showed that India may be No.1 in rankings,but they are not as strong(or fierce) as the previous champions Australia and West Indies,as they claim to be.

    Australia whitewashed Sri Lanka in Sri Lanka by 3-0,whitewashed South Africa in South Africa by 3-0,defeated West Indies in West Indies by 3-1,defeated India in India by 2-1,defeated New Zealand in New Zealand by 2-0,whitewashed Pakistan in Sri Lanka/UAE by 3-0.

    India will have to perform well at home as well as away to deserve the coveted No.1 rankings and filling Windies' or Aussies' shoes!Let's see if India is up to the challenge.

  • on December 22, 2010, 16:54 GMT

    Dear Captain, please also remember that the batting effort also has to be collective. It is not enough if the captain scores a 90 odd runs once in every 5 matches, if the gap is at least 2/3 matches it is fine. However, your idea of backing Raina as a test prospect if going too far like it went with Jadeja, this guy has good talent but still lacks maturity, how arrogant was it to give catching practice to the slips when we were facing a situation of innings defeat. Much deserving people like Cheteswar Pujara are waiting. One serious thing I could observe about Raina in the ultra slow-motion camera(on innumerable occassions) was that he does not focus/see/observe (on) the ball hitting the bat when he's playing his shots, needs to get this right, else even your support cannot carry him beyond a point. Running between the wickets & catching also needs a lot of improvement though the fielding in general seems good. So, let's not single-out someone for the first test defeat.

  • on December 22, 2010, 16:43 GMT

    When will at least one bowler from India will treat his job as a true profession and by the least stick to the basic disciplines of bowling, like a Glenn McGrath or Shaun Pollock or Wasim Akram. None of these guys were tearaway pacemen, still they troubled the batting greats of the like Sachin, Ricky, Lara Dravid.... What was the secret, dedication to what they did on a regular basis, they were as serious with their bowling like they made a debut on every single match/session. If there was true dedication in our Indian bowlers, we'd never get to see wayward bowling, should mention that our bowlers were simply presenting things to the South African batsmen in a Golden plate with silver spoon, not to take away the credit of batting talent from the South Africans.

  • hemanofindia on December 22, 2010, 16:29 GMT

    Can you tell how much Raina has scored in last 6 innings? He has been SHORT against SHORT BALLS for quite some YEARS now? Does India lack batsmen who can deal with short balls? I guess no...^_^but Raina is in CSK^_^.

    How much ODIs did Mr J. Unandkat played before getting TEST TEMPERAMENT?

    ..........there are many such questions which have SATISFACTORY ANSWERS. Being unanswered these answer WHY INDIA IS SO CONSISTENT WHEN IT COMES TO LOSE ON BIG OCCASIONS..... Wait for the world cup...

  • mithun2880 on December 22, 2010, 15:29 GMT

    At this point of time if team India just has to think about the last tour to Australia. Where just before the WACA, Perth match (supposed to be the fastest wicket in World) the Aussies were talking about including Shaun Tait with Brett Lee and others to win the match in 3 days......and my my what happened, India won the mathc in 4 days....Indian team has the players to put South Africa in trouble.......lets hope so

  • SuperSharky on December 22, 2010, 15:17 GMT

    Most of the Indian batsmen lost their wicket in the first innings due to playing the fuller ball on the backfoot. Especially in Centurion, you can't allow the ball to bounce freely. If the ball are pitched short, then LEAVE. On the fuller bounce you must be as quick as Sunny Gavaskar on the front-foot. Maybe in India you can guide the fastbowlers to the fence on your backfoot. Stand closer to the bounce, Boucher won't stump you on Steyn or Morkel's delivery. That also mess-up their length. Face fire with fire. The next two Tests will be played at sea-level. The Zaffers will find it harder than the first Test. And with Zaheer Khan back, India got a better chance.

  • SuperSharky on December 22, 2010, 15:07 GMT

    "The victory improves South Africa's win-loss ratio in Centurion to 12, the best among all home grounds to have hosted at least five Tests. Their only loss at Centurion was a two-wicket defeat against England in 2000." The Highveldt altitude at Centurion are definately a major 'secret weapon' for the Zaffers. Now with the Highveldt-Test behind us, I reckon the rest of the series would provide more evenly matches. To me, India have lost the first Test in the first day. The conditions, atmosphere and climate and everything was in the Zaffers favour. It's sad that a ,"Specialist in hitting the fastbowlers to the fence", Sunil Gavaskar, wasn't there to give some tips to the batsmen. When Sunil Gavaskar practised for the mean West Indies fastbowlers in the 80's, he asked his club-mates (who already bowled fast), to bowl from a 18ft length. A pitch are about 22ft. He fought fire with fire. Very quickly on his front-feet. And that was needed for the Indians in the first day.

  • kr_kinshuk on December 22, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    there's this tendency to question india's no. 1 status after every single test defeat.... india lost a game against sri lanka in sri lanka and everyone was claiming how india's time as no.1 was up.... nd we all saw how india came back to win the next game.... let's just wait nd watch what india comes up with in the next game....

    from what i hear there's plenty of rain in the durban skies.... graeme smith would do well to pray that his team isn't at the receiving end this time....

  • RCMohan on December 22, 2010, 13:27 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni, with Zak back in next test, he can aim for a good attack. But, I feel Steyn/Morkel as a potenet attack than India's. With India's form of bouncing back in the series, after the first test, I feel India can aim for at least a series levelling, as srikanth said.

  • Cricket_4_Blood on December 22, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    INDIA IS HAVING THE WORST BOWLING UNIT COMPARING TO ALL TEAMS IN THE TEST STATUS.

  • AsherCA on December 22, 2010, 11:59 GMT

    For some jokers here who want to call SA the # 1 team basis a toss they won -South Africa are definitely the better side when they win the toss on conditions their bowlers can use. Before we start calling them the best side, let's see what happens in a role reversal - test match where the first 4 / 5 hours there is support for bowlers, SA is batting & then, the support for bowlers disappears.

  • on December 22, 2010, 11:42 GMT

    Dhoni's captaincy is poor too. He batted well in the second innings, but not in the first.

  • shameerpvt on December 22, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    India, Lanka & Banga all face problems in finding express pace bowlers. Also the batsmen find it hard to play for the bouncers. Still there is no strategy to make use those into own advantages. Flat tracks is not an excuse. They can practice in indoor tracks with bouncy & express conditions. When are those changes coming to see into effect ?

  • cricfan06 on December 22, 2010, 11:01 GMT

    What's all this nonsense people are chatting.. so, they lost the test.. badly.. that's ok. So long as they come back well (which I believe they will).. it doesn't prove anything yet.. it was one match..in which, the toss was crucial, yes, I think they were rattled a bit, but these guys are professionals, with a lot of experience and I am certain, they will come back fighting. Every team has its day, when they are simply unbeatable, SA had theirs.. its up to India to dig deep and fight back, but one loss doesn't mean they are not the best side, the rankings speak for themselves..Look how England came from a huge innings win to be hammered by the Aussies in Perth..the aussies showed fight.. India will too..watch this space.

  • RapidChase on December 22, 2010, 10:11 GMT

    Most successful bowler in recent times in South Africa is R.P Singh. Because of him we won 20-20 world cup and because of him Hyderabad won IPL league there. How can they forget. His ball swings like magic there. Bindly I can select R.P Singh and Praveen Kumar for their Swing bowling in South Africa conditions. Krishnamachari Srikant should Wake up now, World cup preparation should limit to one day only why new bowlers in Test matches?? If new bowlers can come then new batsman also should come. "Only SWING CAN WORK" caz we dont have pace.

  • backwardpoint on December 22, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    Kohli instead of Dravid? Kohli? Kohli? So who does Pujara replace? What about Badrinath at the top end of the choices? or Yuvraj at the next best level? what about Ashish Nehra as a shining middle order bat and a first change bowler? I am quite surprised that Kohlis name is brought up for tests. Phenomenal, indeed!

  • SAALLTHEWAY on December 22, 2010, 9:46 GMT

    I am very impressed with some of the comments here... Seems there are certain Indian supporters who take the issues on the chin. South Africa also start series poorly. So to say India start poorly is nonsense and short-sighted. Last tour they crushed us in the 1st test and we came back to win the series. I do feel though, that at some point the Indian selectors need to bring in untested and fresh faces. I would say that Raina has been shown up and exposed... I loved the way Pujara played against the Aussies. I would give him a chance. And DEFINITELY Ashwin... I think he can be a major find for India. So to me... I think Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid (last chance), Tendulkar, Laxman,Pujara,Dhoni,Ashwin,Sharma,Khan and Sreesanth must be the line-up. I loved every second of the first test.. but I do have reservations as to how we will play under REAL pressure.

  • karthikfromchennai on December 22, 2010, 9:43 GMT

    Batting in the first innings was a very big let down and dhoni seems to have forgotten that...stop blaming the bowlers. its the same bowlers who have won matches for India consistently picking 20 wkts....what he expects from the bowlers after posting just 136 runs on board....just because Sachin scored in the second innings, we cant forget the pathetic display of batting by our batsmen in first innings.

  • PrinceA on December 22, 2010, 9:39 GMT

    I just can't understand wat was the need to pick Unadkat and Yadav in the squad in such a high profile series against South Africa in South Africa. How can u take the risk of playing two new seam bowlers in conditions where your experienced bowlers also have struggled? Why not call in Irfan Pathan who can bat a bit as well. Or may be RP Singh who did so well in England. India did the same mistake of playing Saha as a specialist batsmen in the home series against SA and paid the price for it. It's just like India have told I Pathan that he can't play anymore International Cricket. Sachin on the other hand is just playing for his records

    South Africa are winning this series easily.

  • Indian_Rules on December 22, 2010, 9:32 GMT

    I dont see any reasons why Raina should be given another chance. We should rather try Pujara. Its really foolish of people posting here who are questioning the inclusion of Dravid and Laxman into the team. Just because of 1 test failure u cannot throw anyone out. Just look at the younger crop.. Do u think people like Vijay , Raina etc can play and cope in these conditions? Absolutely NOT

  • AsherCA on December 22, 2010, 9:13 GMT

    Dhoni chosen to criticise the hapless Indian bowlers for not getting SA wickets under conditions where even Ishant Sharma was able to bat for more than 30 minutes, unreasonable. Interestingly - Dhoni is not dismayed that the great Suresh Raina of Chennai Super Kings could not get anything of substance even in conditions where Ishant Sharma was able to bat for an hour or so.

  • bhaloniaz on December 22, 2010, 9:07 GMT

    I am looking for an adjective for a bowling line up that cannot take 20 wickets. May be they can take 4. Should we call it ordinary? In all fairness, indian quicks are not that bad, specially Zaheer. (Still ordinary if you follow Shewag's definition).

  • on December 22, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    Rightly said by DHONI, and we also know that the bowlers who played in this game were not capable , though we had some expectatins from Ishant Sharma. This was a track where you had to put in extra effort, you had to hit the deck hard, ad Sreesanth is not at all a bowler who hits the deck, neither Unadkad(!). On that same track, we could see the difference in bounce when SA bowlers came into action. It was real bad show by our quickies. We can only hope for a betterment in this department because Durban is not much different. we have to get bounce to get wicket.

  • on December 22, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    A few things were obvious in the first test. 1. Raina is not mentally willing to endure the physical hardship required to be a competent test batsman on 'non sub-continent' wickets. 2. Steyn is back to nearly best form and will remain a massive factor in the series, even on flat pitches. 3. India desperately need Zaheer back, even if it is just to get Smith out. 4. Tsotsobe needs to drastically improve if he is to retain his test spot. I see very little upside for India in their performance from Centurion. Only two of the first innings wickets can be ascribed to pitch related movement. The rest were just an unwillingness to battle and grind out an innings for a meaningful time. Gary Kirstens battle is one of changing the mindset of the team to one that is willing to sacrifice for the sake of crease occupation.

  • on December 22, 2010, 8:49 GMT

    India is still best now because at any time they can bounce back. But imagine a test series without Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman (when they retire in coming year). There will no better replacement for them who can lead the game. The same thing happened for Australia. The time when they had Hayden, Gilchrist, Lee, Warne, Macgrath... they were ranking no.1 and now they sliped to 5th position. And if India will be at the same point, they might slip to end (worst than ever). Raina made century at debut followed by 50+ so on. But there is no consistency in his batting, especially when he play test. So why they dont think a replacement and give Yuvraj a come back? If we look at the bowlers, Harbajan and Zaheer are the only consistant bowlers. Who can open with Zaheer? A big question. Ishant? Sreesanth? And even if any of them how long they can be consistant? I am not criticizing but these are true facts. We are supporters even India won or loose because we believe that India is the best!

  • eomer17 on December 22, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    cnat understand how some guys want praveen kumar to play tests.the guy swings it for the first few overs then is a pain in the ass.people this is test cricket ,a bowler has to bowl consistently well to take wickets.batsmen have all the time in the world.

  • on December 22, 2010, 8:35 GMT

    What I write here will not matter. The right people will never be selected. Lets just hope that the people who are selected play to their potential and win the next 2 games for India

  • sunil_she on December 22, 2010, 8:21 GMT

    In the Last 2 tours of south africa to india,india drawn the series by making non sporting tracks in the second tests of that 2 series.ICC has Warned india in that issue.Still indians are believing india is going to beat south africa in south africa????

  • vivvi on December 22, 2010, 7:58 GMT

    ...no way a left armer is going to be effective if he does not have a stock ball which comes back into right hand batsmen.be it a fast bower or spinner,only then your natural delivery would be effective or else the batsmen will line you up and leave all your deliveries on off stump knowing that you are not going to straighten enough to make the ball hit the stump or pad.....that is eactly what happens to mitch jhonson that is exactly why ohja should learn googly..or else he will only be effective in containing not taking wickets

  • voiceguru on December 22, 2010, 7:48 GMT

    i do not understand that by lossing one test how many comments are given on india's 1st test position. Expectation of india playing same way in different condition where they havent played for many years. SA or AUS how much they fall when they come to subcontinent.. they shouldn't be ready to spin before they come ... coz its hard for them as well. The no 1 position doesnt imply that every match has to be won being no.1 team but to show character that we can also do well on what ever condition has given and learn. There are still 2 more test to go and india already shown that they can bat. Bolwing is concern but give them a break everybody has bad day at times. So before commenting get your facts right every team has n will face the problem when they are playing in their own country .. australia lost so many matches when they were ranked 1st but thats the past dont be so hard on india coz SA cant get no.1 position :))

  • vivvi on December 22, 2010, 7:41 GMT

    time to put pressure on harbajan ,,sa are handling him way too easily ...he was atleast containing if not taking wickets recent days but now he has become more flatter for batsmen's liking .spinners are to be geniune wicket takers in test matches ..its fine if you are hit for 5 sixes in a over but the 6 th deivery has to be wicket taking one ,for that you need the temperament to keep the ball thrown up to the batsmen .a spinners role is indepenent of tracks .chawla and aswin seems to have both fight and zip plus aswin is tall ,does nothing harm to the bounce he could extract ,he has the temperament plus whatever little i've seen of him he is a genuine wicket taker.chawla being a leggie is a natural wicket taker plus he has the zip that most leggies pray for .mishra should learn to get that zip ,he is very slow off the track giving time for batsmen to go on the backfoot and play square off the wicket ...he is being cut or pulled too often..ohja should learn the googly .....

  • sonjjay on December 22, 2010, 7:34 GMT

    Its going to be very difficult to win in SA with a bowling attack like this.But i cannot understand what lines they were bowling in the first test.Is that the plan they had for the batsmen?? I hope the answer is no. I agree with snowsnake we dont have anyone in the reserve.Although I think RP singh should have been in the squad instead of Jaidev Undakat who looked ordinary even in the domestic games.I just hope they have learnt from their mistakes in first test,its a real test for the team now.

  • Rezaul on December 22, 2010, 7:27 GMT

    Thats a huge area of concern India has managed to get only 4 wickets in a Test match when the opposite bowlers bowled them out twice comfortably. It indicates Indiaƛ bowling quality and effectiveness other than turning home tracks. It was eye catching the way Kallis and Devillers attacked Bhajji and proved him overrated! I would expect at least 3 changes from the first Test in Indian squad if they really are to give a fight not win. Zaheer and a wicket taking spinner in stead of Unadkat and Bhajji; Pujara for Raina. The most important point is if India fails again and surrender the same way, there will be rise of lots of questions about their number 1 ranking which definitely they wont like. So, expect them come hard and have a good game.

  • sunny1307 on December 22, 2010, 7:26 GMT

    India will surely take 20 south african wickets in this test series if not in a single match.......they took 5 in 1st test so they have to take 15/20 in the remaining two coz surely south africa will bat only once in remaining tests too and amla and kallis will score tons each time they come out......i hope kallis overtakes ponting in centuries....just 2 more in 2 innings......jacques kallis the greatest cricketer alive..........

  • sunny_k10 on December 22, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    poor chap.....cant influence the "pitch curator" to prepare a typical indian "mud track" and play happily along with "gully cricketr" friends.....this is the real problem..!!!!! we have seen over more than 2 years how this so called no.1 team underprepared pitches at home and won against sri and AUS teams.....these are not cricket pitches but "mud tracks"....now when they are facing "world class" cricket envoronment, quality pace attack, sportive, non deteriorating "true" cricket pitches, here we go....lamenting and crying for un available help..!!!! this is the true nature of indian cricket scenario..... no ability and no talent to play against quality pace attack on a pace and bouncier track....obviously "flat pitch bullies" keep crying for help..!!!! nope....BCCI wont send it's own pitch curators to SA to assist team india... so.....keep crying dhoni.....surprise..!!! no daring comments frm "sehwag".....after all it's not his comfort zone....

  • mithun2880 on December 22, 2010, 7:06 GMT

    Hey whats happening to K.Srikanth and his selectors !!! It seems they are gifting India test caps like Santaclaus gifting sweets....Unadkat needs to atleast spend a couple of seasons playing Ranji Trophy before been drafted in Indian team.Where is Abhimanyu Mithun, bowled very well during the India's tour of SriLanka.Bowled with a good speed and accuracy, also decent with the willow.What are the reasons for keepign him out of the South African touring party.

  • on December 22, 2010, 6:53 GMT

    While Dhoni can over introspect why the pale bowling in first tests cost them the match, the truth remains India lost first test match by a huge margin. SA didn't even have to bat second time. To say India batted very well, would be a fallacy. Even Tendulkar, the lone Indian Centurian in first test played more than 241 balls to score a 110+ score. Other including Sehwag, Gambhir Dravid, & Dhoni got bundled in scores ranging between 40+ to 75+. There was never a big partnership, the ones that we have seen between Kallis & Amla, Kallis & DeVillers during South African Innings. The other harsh fact of this Tour is the bowlers can't win/draw the test series for India. India just doesn't have any quality bowlers barring Zaheer Khan. While on previous tours India had quality, genuine swing bowlers like Venkatesh Prasad & Javagal Srinath, who can truly exploit local conditions. One can't expect a debutant to hit the ground running and take a five wicket haul.

  • harigk on December 22, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    Dhoni is absolutely wrong. It is obvious that bowlers did not show their ability up to the standard. And what did the batmen do in their first innings? First thing BCCI have to do is to start making Fast pitches in India. Avoid politics in Cricket. Select at least one good all rounder and 2 to 3 fast bowlers(Genuine). After Tendulkar, Laxman, Dravid, what will happen nobody knows. Give enough time for the batmen and bowlers to show their capability.

  • on December 22, 2010, 6:50 GMT

    I dont know why Indian selectors have selected Ravindra jadeja for the world cup squad... why not Irfan Phatan. Iam sure he will be definately better then jadeja with the bat and even with the ball....Finally what happend is happend...Lets hope our India performs well in this world cup and let us hope the 20 year dream of sachin come ture.......India is going to repeat the 1983 history ........

    ALL THE BEST MEN IN BLUE.......:-)

  • cricfanraj on December 22, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    @ AvidCricFan The comments are quite realistic. India should look seriously at Bhajji . No that he got two hundreds people want to have him in the team but he became a liability for a whle now. Better to have a bowler who gives couple of wickets than him for getting those 20 or 30 runs. About aging batting lineup its high time India start transision. I think the sequence should be Dravid,Laxman and Sachin (with current form and fitness I think he can easily play for next 3 years.) .India desperately need a good technic player (Pujara impressed me in 1st outing over Raina) at 3 and Dravd can bat at 6 till his retirement. Unless the plan is in place our batting might become like WI and bowling the lesser said is the better. I felt sad when I saw Udnakar. Not because he didn't get a wicket. But he never looked like getting a wicket. If this is our bench reserves let us forget about touring out side India

  • Sureshpai on December 22, 2010, 6:34 GMT

    I totally agree witH MinusZero. India is such a Huge Populated Country and I am surprised why we do not have even a Single Fast Bowler who can bowl above 140 kph ? Look at Australia - Bollinger, Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle, Bret Lee, South Africa - Dale Stein, Morne Morkel, England - Tremlett, Anderson,Broad, Even Sub Continents Srilanka - Malinga, Fernando, Pakistan - Shoib Akhtar, Ameer, Riyaz Wahab, etc. Shame to India not having such Fast Bowlers. Nowadays, all Countries have well developed on such Bowling Speed Stars. But, India is not. We cannot win on such Countries like South Africa, Austraila, England where the pithces are bouncy and with only a speed of 130 to 135 kph is not going to work, useless. So, if India has to win, they must have Genuine Fast Bowler at least two to overcome losing matches. Suresh Pai Udupi

  • KKVC on December 22, 2010, 6:31 GMT

    Over fast bowlers are the most docile bowler on earth , they don't bowl bouncers not in this match in any match. Other teams are intimidating over batesman with short pitch deliveries aiming the rib cage or face and peppered with at least one bouncer every over... they even do the same to over bowlers and they forget every thing, when it is over time to bowl ... we are from land of AHIMSHA and cricket is gentlemans game and ball is supposed to be bowled to WICKETS NOT BODY LINE So any team will make bouncy pitches against over team but not with pak, sri and rest, because they are worried of there batsmen would get the same treatment It is pitty over bowling couch cannot train raising delivery from short of length and skidding delivery from good length to trap... till then over batsmen need to dance to the chin music KKVC

  • on December 22, 2010, 6:30 GMT

    Dhoni dear !! ... its a team effort so bowling, batting, fielding everything counts. at present it looks like Suresh Raina is good for sub-continent flatter tracks not for seaming bouncing ones. he needs to improve otherwise like Yuvi he will also be kicked out. why dont bring in Pujara, he might prove his worth like Sehwag did in 2001/02 tour as a middle order bastman, Rahul Dravid is fading quickly, Kohli has shown promises give him a chance. Trio of Sachin, Dravid, Laxman will retire in 10-15 months then the future looks bleak...if we dont have their replacements. in bowling dept without Zak it looks like a bowling attack from minnows. i totally agree with DUKES11 over inclusion of Unadkat who was unimpressive. Harbhajan is struggiling in India as well as as abroad, try Ashwin instead of Bhajji.

  • arun.arul on December 22, 2010, 6:25 GMT

    India should bring in Aashish Nehra for the remaining test matches. He can bowl well in South African conditions. He did well in SA during the World Cup in 2003. He can swing the ball both ways and he'll be more than a handy bowler.

  • gammy_79 on December 22, 2010, 6:22 GMT

    why people expect too much from Zaheer,i dont think he can make much difference when other bowler not bowling well ,we dont see Bhajji turning ball as muruli or warne did ,i think Ashwinii can be give chance in place of thim ,call praveen please.i Please dont critise UNDAKAT he too young and his first match ,let him give more chance ,sreesant and insat not bowl well too ,i wish second test play with zaheer ,praveen and nehra,now the best alvalable bowling combination.

  • PathanMastanalikhan on December 22, 2010, 6:19 GMT

    Please Answer my question... 1. Why Indian Cricket team giving more chances to yuvaraj Y not Irfan pathan? 2. Instead of Raina you can Pick a Waseem jaffar (where he scored 40+ centuries in his Firstclass), he had good avg in test. either why pujara is not getting chances?

  • dubai_cricfan on December 22, 2010, 6:12 GMT

    i rember dhoni is complaining that his teammate raina is not getting proper rest....i think for this reason SA finsihed the 1st test match very fast...dont worry he will get enough rest in b/w 2nd and 3rd test too...

  • on December 22, 2010, 6:07 GMT

    Inept bowling has been India's problem for a long time. Besides, Zaheer and Harbhajan all other bowlers don't measure up. Even Harbhajan's form is suspect. They give out too many runs and not to mention the many wides and no-balls. It is high time the selectors find fast and medium pace bowlers to replace these underperforming bowlers.

  • gammy_79 on December 22, 2010, 6:07 GMT

    We saw manytime praveen kumar taking wicket at early overs even soemtime on his frst over in ODi and opposition team in pressure and the same time other bowler bowls well too when opposition team in pressure he should be called for test also.Give praveen kumar chance in test too ,anybody angree with me ?

  • Saffalicious on December 22, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    Dear MS Dhoni, here is the status as it stands:

    South Africa tour India and take a 1-0 lead. India prepare a decider track that helps to level the series (which is not only their right, but the smart thing to do). South Africa and India share the series in India's back yard.

    Now India tour South Africa and the question is, can they do the same in the SA back yard.

    Simply put, if they cant, then Sa are the better team. If they can draw the series, the teams are evenly matched, and if they win the series, India are better.

    MS, stop talking or making excuses and let your teams ability prove itself on the scoreboard!!

    Simple, isnt it.

  • dubai_cricfan on December 22, 2010, 6:00 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni. its very shame that u r blaiming your bowlers....u and sreekanth together picked the squad for SA....u should think before the selection that if any bowlers got any injury it will be a big blow to replace a person who hav no international expsore....we have nehra,mithun,munaf and even praveen..instead of this options u guys went for umesh and jaidev..and we are not playing against bangaldesh or zimbawe......and i dont knw y u guys are relying on sreeshant.....he is not a quality perfomer in international cricket....after all this drama u r showing u r anger against bowlers....i dont think zak can make any differnce in the next match becoz his partners are clowns ....zak cant take 20 wickets he need support from others taht he cant expect....so dhoni please concentarte on WC...Leave this issue becoz u itself is responsible for this....

  • on December 22, 2010, 5:39 GMT

    India's big worry has always been there bowling its not only in SA but for the upcoming World Cup. In this series anyway zah is going to replace Unadkat and I would prefer Harbhajan and raina can be rested for once and I would like to see Ojha and Vijay replacing them respectively.

  • saishu on December 22, 2010, 5:35 GMT

    The main thing to worry is about the bowling dept.The selectors have done a very bad selection because they should have selected Abhimanyu Mithun,who has a great records in domestic than Jaidev.These selectors does not consider the south indian players at all.Praveen Kumar could have been handy,but the selectors did not consider him also,anyways poor selection.We could see Dale steyn swinging the ball,same could be done if we had Praveen Kumar or Abhimanyu Mithun.When it comes to the batting dept., Raina is having a tough time, he should not be dropped for the 2nd match in durban, he's a great batsman,just need some time and practise for the short balls.And the batsmen need good start,and once they get in,should not give away their wicket by trying too much,as we saw Virender Sehwag's wicket in both the innings.

  • vish57 on December 22, 2010, 5:26 GMT

    Harbhajan is wanning a bowler while Srishanth, Ishanth Sharma are inconsistent, the other bowler being a new comer; selection of bench players is at fault; inclusion of Nehra/Praveen Kumar or Munaf would have been a better choice; selectors are at fault in selecting 2 rookie pacemen and a reserve wickt keeper.

  • Ashi.Gautam on December 22, 2010, 4:42 GMT

    I agree with lots of discussion on RAINA and UNADKAT on this page. Truly, playing RAINA in first game was obvious but if India plays him even now, it doesn't make sense. He should be aptly replaced by Murali Vijay for second test (I don't think he would mind batting at No.5 even if he's an opener). UNADKAT can't SWING the ball (commentators in First Test went gaga about it!) why was he even considered. UNADKAT is definitely not the guy for a test match in SOUTH AFRICA OR AUSTRALIA OR ENGLAND. I don't know much on Umesh Yadav but if he can SWING the ball, he should be preferred. My team for 2nd test should be Viru, Gauti, Master Blaster, Wall, VV Special, M. Vijay, MSD, Bhajji, Umesh Yadav, Ishant Sharma, Zaks. (This team could be the only hope, which is still very slim). KEEP SREESANTH out for a game, may be comes back in 3rd test with something more than aggression alone!

  • sunny_227 on December 22, 2010, 4:33 GMT

    India was Playing In Home conditions and every thing was going smooth for them number 1 team and All that Stuff as they have come out of their Den they have suffer now they are playing real test Cricket And I am Sure that This test series will be won By South Africa Easily

  • on December 22, 2010, 4:26 GMT

    Did it take Mali so long to realise he has a very weak bowling attack in foreign conditions. Thank God u have at last woken up Mali to the bitter truth. In such conditions our attack is near the bottom 7 to 10.

  • CricFanKrish on December 22, 2010, 3:29 GMT

    I don't believe it will be fair to axe Dravid. He's been doing well, got a couple of centuries of late. In fact, I believe it will go India good to bring him back to the ODI side. He can be a good mentor to the younger members of the side. Regarding bowling, Ishant needs to get back to bowling fast, not just concentrate on bowling good length. Very few bowlers can survive like that. You can, if you are Sir Richard Hadlee, Glenn McGrath or Shaun Pollock. Not otherwise. Look at the likes of Steyn, Morkel, Johnson, Lee and even previous generation bowlers like Donald, Akram, Waqar, Shoaib (yeah, he's still there, but he's not bowling FAST anymore and so is struggling), etc. Ashish Nehra clocked 145+kmph during the 2003 WC and got 6 for 23 against England. So, pace does matter. Even our own Kapil Dev would bowl consistently over 140kmph in his hey days. He later settled down to bowl swing. Going one generation further, West Indies had the Fearsome foursome. So Indians, step up the pace!

  • gonty_superXI on December 22, 2010, 3:16 GMT

    Everybody is talking of major changes in playing XI. I too believe in that. Pujara shold come in place of Raina. When it comes to stay on pitch and pass out time, Pujara is very very useful. He also can score during that period. This is the reason he is called as Wall-II of India. Bowlers need to be changed in multiple. Munaf, Amit Sharma, Ojha in place of Bhajji, Sreesanth, Unadkat. Our seam bowlers are not able to get wickets on seamer friendly wickets, then we should look for spinners. Munaf can contain batsman in any situation. That will add pressure to the batsman and other bowler can get benefit from that.

  • Mitcher on December 22, 2010, 3:13 GMT

    @shutosh Nagar: "it is always difficult to acclimatise in foreign conditions, perhaps south African have forgotten how they performed in Indian conditions last time..Just wait and watch." - This is a baffling comment i've heard regularly from Indian fans recently. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that series drawn?

  • on December 22, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    @DUKES11 very correctly pointed out bro.... as u have said Raina & unadkat are not upto test standards yet..... the problem with selectors is that they were not just rating a player depending on there performances, but they r rating them from the matches in which india have the matches.... and as u find raina doing well in matches that india have won whether it was test/ODI & unadkat doing well in domestic matches and they believe that these people bring some LUCK to the team along with them and so they believe when they perform well india is going to win the match (this is how they are gambling) with the team.... dnt know when this attitude of selectors is going to change...

  • GoldenAsif on December 22, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    India's problem has always been there weak bowling, heavily reliant on spinners. They have not produced a single genuine pace bowler in their history. Kapil, Srinath and Zaheer Khan were all medium fast to fast medium at best. And they were all decent (none of them averages less than 25 with the ball) rather than outstanding seamers. You need express pace strike bowlers to succeed esp. on pacy and bouncy tracks outside the sub-continent

  • matny on December 22, 2010, 2:11 GMT

    I think Dhoni is wrong. Of course its not India, so live with it. They did't bat well at all.(except tendulkar).

  • Nampally on December 22, 2010, 1:02 GMT

    @Avidcriicfan: Sir, I applaud your comments which are absolutely dead on.Indian bowling has been poor foir the past few years. It is the batting that has kept India in the game.As you say the lessons learnt from the Centurian test is VVS & Raina performed miserably in both the innings. Do you still keep them in the line up or replace them. Vijay being an opener will be good to face pace bowling and should automatically replace Raina. But Dhoni has his own ideas.It is also true that Dravid is not at his best but I think he still can bat well.India needs to replace Fab 3 , one at a time. Unlike in bowling, there is plenty of batting talent in Kohli, Rahane, Pujara, Tiwary, Rohit, etc.So bringing in a new guy by resting VVS & Dravid alternately is good idea.In bowling Ashwin must replace Bhaiji who is finished as a bowler.Ojha is also a promising bowler.Actually Sehwag is a better off spinner than Bhaiji, who is over rated as you say. Inaction from the Selectors is shockingly poor.

  • Jaggadaaku on December 22, 2010, 0:56 GMT

    India, especially, SRT showed how selfish and gutless he is. Sachin shouldd have been done like Harbhajan had done twice against New Zealand when he made 2 centuries in two tests. Once again, Sachin has come out pure selfish bastard. He could have played the whole over and make a single run at 5th or 6th ball, and try to get more strikes in every over. If Harbhajan, the bowler could do it, twice, I am pretty sure Sachin would have done it. 50 centuries is kind of achievement, and congratulation for that, but if he has rescued the India playing like Harbhajan did against NZ, this century would be memorable forever and all cricket fans in the world would consider this century one of the best innings by world's best batsman. But, the bottom line-Sachin is very ordinary as a batsman, and very good as a businessman. He stayed notout at last, so his average of the runs gone a bit high. Whole India's eyes were on the Sachin, but Sachin already decide to give up.

  • Nampally on December 22, 2010, 0:46 GMT

    During the past 3 series of test matches, the Indian bowling was poor. Strong SA batting line up exposed Indian bowling with a mamoth score of 620 for 4.In the past Kumble to a large extent and Harbhajan and Zaheer held the fort. Kumble has retired. Zaheer is aging and in poor physical shape. Harbhajan is a shadow of his past & may be burnt out. No new talent emerged during past 4 years? Ashwin is the only promising bowler but the Selectors calmly push him aside.Ishant started promisingly 2 years ago but has fizzled out.Sreesanth is very erratic and injury prone.Mishra & Chawla never rose to test class.With no new talent India is still banking on a solo bowler ZAK. #1 team in the world - strong batting but no bowling. Dhoni & the Selectors knew it for at least 2 years & did nothing.I suggest India build the bowling around Ojha, Ashwin (spinners). Start Coaching camps for fast bowlers & hope in 3 years India has some good bowlers.Selectors, Wake up. Improve your job performance

  • on December 22, 2010, 0:18 GMT

    Dhoni has some sort of unexplainable liking for Jadeja in ODIs and Raina in Tests. Bring Praveen Kumar back as he is handful in these conditions even at his pace, Kohli in for Dravid and Pujara in for Raina IF INDIA IS TO WIN!

  • Rosey86 on December 22, 2010, 0:17 GMT

    I believe the lessons learnt are that South Africa are clearly the worlds best team currently. Not always brilliant and they can be upset at home and away, but as a unit it is hard to find many weaknesses. India have a substandard bowling attack, which is further exposed when Khan is unfit, as he seems to be in every series. I love watching India play but the period at the top of the world rankings will not last long. Tendulkar, Laxman and Dravid will be gone in the next 18 months. It will be a sad day when that happens, for it will see the decline of India for a period of time. As an Australian, i saw my own teams demise coming a mile off. Losing players of genuine world class in a small period of time hurts a team. Dhoni will need to start looking for players who want to fight and scrap for victories no matter the circumstance, and bowlers who are prepared to change a game. The Indian team has passengers atm

  • Alexk400 on December 22, 2010, 0:02 GMT

    where is deepak chahar ? why he is not selected?.

  • Alexk400 on December 22, 2010, 0:01 GMT

    Why not find 1 natural athelete out of 1.3 billion when srilanka can find it 2 out of 2 million. It is a million dollar question.

    When people say we don't have natural athlete out of 1.3 billion , i can't agree. It is simply that we are not trying , we are not expanding the selection to extreme corners of india. We need scouting system that people can go find these extreme athlete for some percentage of their find's income. or even fixed income for the scouts.

    We also can have a system that can fast track these finds into ranji tropy and other matches quickly skipping all regional politics and selections.

  • MinusZero on December 21, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    India have been lacking fast bowlers with genuine pace for a while now. They have been lucky to have great spinners. But they need to put more effort into finding some pace bowlers who bowl at 145-150kph.

  • AvidCricFan on December 21, 2010, 22:44 GMT

    India not only need to worry about bowling, it needs to think about relying on aging line up too. Dravid appears to be past his prime. He is no longer The Wall that India relies on. Laxman is also did poorly now in three successive matches. He is a liability on the field too. The younger crop does not have experience of facing pace on bouncy tracks. Raina is pathetic facing rising deliveries.

    On the bowling, Bhajji is grossly overrated. He only performs on perfect tracks suited to his bowling. Keep him in the team for that one or two tracks in India otherwise have someone else who can take few wickets and fields better. Ashwin may do better than Bhajji.

  • Shan_Oz on December 21, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    Why wasnt Umesh Yadav playing ahead of Unadkat, who is too skinny and slow. Yadav was timed at 147km in the IPL, and can bowl 140+ consistantly....jsut needs some more time

    And Raina must go, his technique isnt up to test match cricket..put in Pujara And sooner or later, Kohli has to come in for Dravid

  • Agus2010 on December 21, 2010, 21:41 GMT

    This is not Dhoni fault, this is all because of chief selector and selection committee problem, they haven't give the chance for Good players (All rounder) like Irfan pathan who can bowl and bat and the inform batsmen like Virat kohli, even Suresh raina failed against Australian series, still he is getting chance in test squad because of his IPL (CSK)

  • KENNETH2007 on December 21, 2010, 20:34 GMT

    Bowling always was one of the departments of concern....but not upto this grade .....as there were people(kapil, kumble, X bhajii) who made the difference .....but now no one except some hope from zaheer .....who is not that much a STRIKER BOWLER .....this worring thing ....started from NZ series ...where Nzs with a such weak batting line up drew the 1st and 2nd tests.......time to think or it would be FATAL.

  • Finn92 on December 21, 2010, 20:17 GMT

    Unadkat has to go, he's very young still and has time to improve but to put him ahead of people like Mithun, Patel, Kumar is stupid his domestic stats aren't that amazing to warrant a place over the ones just mentioned. Khan will be a big player for India but he'll not be at his best til the third test as he's still recovering from injury.

  • Alexk400 on December 21, 2010, 19:32 GMT

    FIRE THE COACH!. Period.

    FIRE KIRSTEN also.

  • on December 21, 2010, 19:08 GMT

    Unadkat is a seriously over-rated bowler. I would go with Zaheer, Ishant and Mithun(the only bowler capable of bowling 140+). Too bad that the selectors ignore potential match-winners like Manish Pandey, Abhimanyu Mithun just because they are from Karnataka! Atleast drop Raina and bring in Pujara for god's sake! He would add more solidity to the middle-order.

  • couchpundit on December 21, 2010, 19:04 GMT

    @MENDIS_forever -- unfortunately great indian selectors think other wise. @Rahulbose -- have you played cricket at any level in India? I guess not, thats why you are asking such lame questions. Where have you seen in India genuine talents have been harnessed unless its from certain section of the country? Its a murky area you wont want to get into else you will sound like a politician

    @MS Doni-- You know this was bound to happen, unfortunately its time for you to have your say in Team selection and play politics to get a Team that WANTS to win.

  • SanjivAwesome on December 21, 2010, 18:37 GMT

    The best bowlers have been left behind in India - Mithun, Nehra. This is what you get when you take losers like Sreekant and Unadkat on tour, Mr Dhoni. Talking about losers, why is Raina still in our team?

  • MAypor on December 21, 2010, 18:37 GMT

    this is not no.1 test team bowling attack.......need more attackng bowler....except zaheer khan no one is perfect.....

  • on December 21, 2010, 18:34 GMT

    Just not able to understand , much confused , why no any expert giving statement on Smith's postmatch comment about our all time great the SIR Sachin's performance on the final day of the lost test.

  • Dr.AlexKuruvila on December 21, 2010, 18:21 GMT

    Don't want to make excuses, but honestly, the first test was lost with the toss! With Dhoni's bad luck with the toss, wonder why they would not consider sending Gambhir as VC for the toss. There is also precedence for such a move! Toss will be vital in Durban as well as in the third test! You can kiss this series goodbye (and possibly 3-0) if MS continues his losing streak with the toss!

  • akdayal on December 21, 2010, 17:59 GMT

    I like Dhoni honesty in this press conference. He is honest about over rate most importantly he is honest about Zhaeer absence. "Zhaeer could or could not change the game but we always talk about those who did not present in that particular match" Good luck Dhoni and his team for next match. Hope Zhaeer will perform well.

  • AravindZ on December 21, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    saffas r gonna cream the indians in kingsmead..series 2-0, game SA. bring it on chaps..indians ain't no #1 i say..AB da man will rip the indian bowling apart single handedly

  • poderdubdubdub on December 21, 2010, 17:31 GMT

    I am not surprised by dhoni's worries. This big defeat will not help India's cause to get acceptance as the world top team. World's top teams do not credit India as the true No1. After this defeat India will continue to be regarded as unreal No1, who does not deserve its current ICC ranking. Therefore its crucial for India to improve its bowling. South Africa were brilliant in all the departments, like the true No 1 team.

  • gana555 on December 21, 2010, 17:23 GMT

    Dhoni is absolutely correct.. bowlin is a concern really... see how steyn bowled to take wickets of Gautam for leg before and MS was caught behind.. was really the turning points.. India really fought hard to 2nd inn. It was no other way 2 and half days was too much to handle in such pressure..

  • on December 21, 2010, 17:17 GMT

    @Rahulbose Who will want to become a fast bowler in India?? That is why you will find a lot of fast bowlers from Australia, England and SA the wickets help them.

    Before any one talks about firing any one take into consideration that the team picked was picked by the BCCI and that is what he has to work with WHAT IF he is doing his best and the guys are not improving?? what does he do then??

    The biggest problem is your cricketing board they selected the team, they wanted to send the Indian team to SA about 2 days before the first test. how much can u prepare like that. It was Dhoni and Kirsten that were fighting for the team to come to SA earlier. Look at England they had 4 warm up matched before the first test. The ECB though about what they wanted to do before the first test but the BCCI there is no thinking involved they just make match are match. That is not good for the players only good for the Board they end up making millions of DOLLARS from it.

  • Triple_A on December 21, 2010, 17:11 GMT

    @lakshya1, @Rahulbose....completely agree with you guys. Such a shame that a huge, cricket-loving country cant produce 3 fast bowlers. Ishant Sharma must be the most over-rated bowler out there right now! Absolutely useless. One good series against AUS and he has become a permanent member of the test team!! Maybe going back to the old warhorses like nehra and pathan is our best option. The new guys are just not upto the mark....

  • S.N.Singh on December 21, 2010, 17:05 GMT

    INDIA HAS TO DO WHAT THEY WERE DOING DECADES AGO. THEY HAVE TO GO INTO THE GAME WITH FIVE (5) RECOGONIZED BOWLERS. THREE FAST/MEDIUM AND TWO SPINNERS WITH SEHWAG AS THE LUCKY BOWLERS, OR THREE SPINNERS AND TWO MEDIUM/FAST BOWLERS. OJHA IS ONE THAT CAN CHANGE ANY GAME, HE IS GOOD. ALL OTHER TEAM HAVE A WEAKNESS FOR SPIN BOWLING. ONLT SINCE THEY BROUGHT IN COACHES THESE THING HAPPEN. SIX BATSMEN SHOUKLD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR A TEAM. " INDIA HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR BOWLERS." WHY NOT GO INTO THE GAME WITH FIVE BOWLERS. I AM SORRY THAT OJHA IS NOT IN THE ODI GAMES ? WE NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN BOWL 10 REASONABLE OVERS WITH LESS RUNS. STOP THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER ? PLAY MORE BOWLERS. AND SIX BATSMEN. S N SINGH U S A

  • hashabjp on December 21, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    India don't have the attack to take 20 wickets against a strong South African batting lineup. Even if you include Zaheer. He is a nice bowler but not good enough. Add JP Duminy to the the lineup and you have even more solid lineup with the choice of a spinner. No offense to Ashwell Prince, as he is also a fighter but JP is pure class. Also Lonwabe Tsotsobe needs to be replaced. Bring in DE WET/ Mclaren. My squad. Graeme Smith, Alviro Peterson, Hashim Amla, Jacques Kallis, Ab devilliers, JP duminy, Mark Boucher, Ryan McLaren, Paul Harris, Morne Morkel (would love to see this guy bat, was amazed at the shots he played against pakistan but hope he is not needed), Dale Steyn. GO PROTEAS. Lets the hounds hunt down the rabbit. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND BEST OF LUCK FOR THE SECOND TEST.

  • on December 21, 2010, 17:01 GMT

    Very nice Captain I think pitch was not good If India had won the toss and fielde,d may b South Africa wont get out for 126 but the result might have been different

  • UtpalKhardenavis on December 21, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    I admire Dhoni for coming out harshly against bowlers, because they deserve it. 620/4? India were without Zaheer Khan, but otherwise it was best possible attack still they could take only 4 wickets. Main culprits would be shant Sharma and Sreesanth. As leading pacers in SA they should have done better. When these two bowlers are going to learn?

  • kevivnajar on December 21, 2010, 16:45 GMT

    This is the best comedy of 2010. You select youngsters into the side, like Vinay kumar & Mithun. keep them on bench, make them carry juice bottle, and play them one match on a flat track, and sack them saying they dint take wicket.

    You then bring another guy Yadav, play him in a dead rubber and again blame & sack him, without even seeing his seam movement.

    You know the IND-SA test series is critical (or else why you sent 7-8 players early to SA to study the conditions ?). Knowing its critical, when Zaheer is injured, you rely fully on Sreeshanth; this is not right time to test Unakadt also, as he will be under pressure from his 1st ball. People need to have a comfortable Debut, in order to bring our their best. You ignore P.Kumar, Munaf & Nehra for Zaheer's replacement.

    And now, YOU BLAME THE BOWLERS..!!

  • on December 21, 2010, 16:15 GMT

    i agree... india must improve its bowling. please try harder next time

  • on December 21, 2010, 16:14 GMT

    This is a pretty interesting example.

  • Alkais on December 21, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Its not that India didnt have any fast bowlers who can bowl @ 140+, we had. Irfan,Munaf,Ishant. These 3 were bowling at 140+ when they came to Indian team. Not sure who advised them not to bowl @ 140+. Somebody would have advised them like, look if u bowl @ 140+, u will get injured and wont be able to play long. Thats absurd. When a bowler can bowl fast, he should be allowed to bowl like that. Munaf was an asset. Even now he is an asset, selectors are wasting him by not selecting. These net bowlers Unadkat and Umesh, no idea what made the selectors to pick these bowlers. Should have picked another fast bowler. Munaf should have been playing. Compared to other bowlers, he is the best in the current lot, as he is little experienced and he has control. He is good in moving the ball. Selectors should be sacked first for picking a mediocre bowlers. They should be made accountable. Pick 3-4 bowlers and invest on them ,(Munaf, Bowler from UP, forgot his name and Mithun.)

  • on December 21, 2010, 15:59 GMT

    All one needs to remember is England scored 620/5 . Australia could not bowl them out. Lost by a innings - only to come back and win the next test by 267 runs. When you hear Shaun Pollock make strange cocky statements , one just cringes. If India had won the toss, the whole result in this game could have been different. But given Mr. Dhonis unbelievably poor record with the toss, it was one way sesame. Toss is a crucial factor. However, India do need Zaheer back and I think Zaheer, Sree and Ishant will look a very different pack to the unit which performed in Centurion. It wont be a bad idea to call up Mithun for the rest of the series or Nehra ahead of the one dayers. Pujara for Raina will add depth to the batting - just because Raina looks a bit lost and needs to rectify his failings against the short ball. I do think there is a lot left in this series... and I am hoping the toss is not so crucial a factor in Durban....

  • arnavred on December 21, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    wat our team lacking is Quality fast bowling.India should concentrate on this matter. take steyn as an example.how old is he compared to ishanth,unadkat.sreeshanth? y r they not trying even one ball as 140k's per over.no gud length deliveries when required.. and they forgot abt yorkers..man..Is that hard at ur levels and standards.. stop going to tours and partys and concentrate on wat u came for..C'mon guys u can do it...Go India Goooo...gooo...goooooo....

  • East_West on December 21, 2010, 15:37 GMT

    surprise! surprise! inept bowling?? how about inept BATTING in the first innings! Dhoni post-game analysis makes me laugh! here is the captain who gave up after they scored 600+ runs, and was always on backfoot .., and now talks about bowling?? Historically, our strength was NEVER in bowling, although we had some legendary sippners and few pace bowlers [Kapil, Ghavri..], other than that we always known for batting esp AGAINST SPIN.....and now we thought we could take HARRIS...Let us play like #1, SHALL WE??

  • on December 21, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    india will bounce back well.... but raina in out of form.. so better bring in pujara or murali vijay who can put runs on the board.... also v shud not put ful pressure on zak who s recovering.. so other seamers also shud bowl well to make them out quickly.........

  • geedubnz on December 21, 2010, 15:13 GMT

    what? all of a sudden its harder to bowl a team out in south africa than india? what? the pitches in india are basically dressed up highways. india were well and truly outclassed here, just admit it and don't blame the pitch. South Africa got 20 wickets quite easily in comparison. Battle of the best two sides in the world? I don't think so...

  • TRAM on December 21, 2010, 15:02 GMT

    It is Dhoni's strength or weakness I dont know - that he depends on Zaheer to spearhead the bowling attack change the strategy.... Though Zaheer may do that role, a captain must know those too right? Aren't other captains like Ponting, Smith, Sanga doing that?

  • Asadpk on December 21, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    yes bowling is the only concern when you have Raina in the team and you make 136 in the first innings. Batting is of no concern, ofcourse Sachin will take care of itself himself and win India matches after completing his hundreds. And where did Cricinfo hide away yesterday's story when Graeme Smith was surprised by India's tactics on the final morning (or Sachin's inability to shield the tail) ??

  • matsadelaide on December 21, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    ABHIMANYU MITHUN has performed well and having good records in domestic cricket,he has been a leading wicket taker in Sri lankan dead pitches,he did not get enough opportunities to drop him...he could have played instead of Srisant or unadkat in the 1st test playing eleven

  • on December 21, 2010, 14:45 GMT

    I definitely believe that India will come back very strong with Zaheer instead of young rookie Unadkat and level the series in afascinating way. Just wait and see guys and do remeber me on that occasion. Jaffar, Bahrain.

  • Chetan007 on December 21, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    Just give a chance to Umesh Yadav and drop Sreesanth. Umesh can bowl 145 plus in the Indian Pitch. Then of course he can get 150 plus on SA wickets. Bowling coach should give some coaching for him to bowl in line length. As he started bowling just 2-3 years before. He had really progressed well by the time. Ya Zaheer come back is a great assent to the team. But our bowling coach must do care of this. They can't relay on him for this much. Whether he gets injured or whatever. This put a bit more pressure on Zaheer. Bowling is the problem of Indian team. They know this but didn't try to come out of this. If the bowlers bowls in the area where the SA batsman face difficulties. Each bowler should take care of 2-3 batsman, know their weakness, know where the opposition is strong enough to bat. This can solve the problem what India is facing now. Playing a bowler like Sreesanth will not help. Play an INTELLIGENT bowler will surely help India for long run.

  • Vishnu27 on December 21, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    As an Aussie fan: good work SA!! Brilliant stuff. Far too good for the supposed "number 1 team" (by virtue of an odd ranking process only) in the world. India once again proving that they are nothing more than a team of flat track bullies. Shown up in every department by a thoroughly professional & totally ruthless SA outfit. Not even remotely in the same league. Put them to the sword SA, & none of your famous let offs this time! Please. Well done to SRT (true champion of the modern game & all-time). Otherwise, a completely demoralising & humiliating defeat on a proper & true test wicket (i.e. something in it for everyone; bowlers included- for a pleasant change). Keep preparing proper test strips SA; you are a credit to game & clearly the way forward! A proper role model for the game of cricket as a whole. No one wants to see bat dominated games (except maybe India).

  • on December 21, 2010, 14:15 GMT

    Yusuf Pathan will be a good option. Kick out Raina.... he (Raina) is good for t20 and ODI's, Praveen Kumar / Munaf Patel against Ishant Sharma

  • Rushikey on December 21, 2010, 14:14 GMT

    How about Umesh Yadav, He can bowl more than 140 mph, I am not sure why the guy with less than 120 mph gets a chance ahead of Umesh.. I know Umesh started playing cricket little late and his career might be short but he deserves a chance

  • Bang_La on December 21, 2010, 14:13 GMT

    Dhoni has one thing for sure, ability to call a spade a spade! In a population of 1.2 billions and having world's one of best pace academy, they couldn't find 5 genuine pacers in last 75 years to clock 140 kmph, how believable is that? Well, dancer-turned-into-so called pacer with 110 km will never ring any bell anywhere! I remember two Bangladeshi pacers sent to that academy shone far ahead than Prasad and Sreenath. Now Bangladesh are preparing for at least 3 pacers clocking 140+ km. Pakistan have dozens of them in a no-cricket environment. Sri Lanka do have them too. What's wrong with India?

  • on December 21, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    raina has to sit out pujara has to come in when zaheer is back bowling department will become strong

  • Ananthsviews on December 21, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    Dhoni sure needs to be worried. In the first innings, we batted as if we had eleven bowlers and we bowled as if we had eleven batsmen in the team. To drop ABHIMANYU MITHUN who got 4/123 on a flat track in Sri lanka speaks of the special intelligence of the Indian Selectors. Probably Kris Srikkanth and Dhoni are playing selection politics!!!!!

  • NewYorkCricket on December 21, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    High time the BCCI started paying bowlers 2 to 3 times more than batsmen at all levels of cricket. This will encourage more people to take to fast bowling. There is very less incentive for budding cricketers to take up bowling in cricket. Fast bowlers have shorter careers for the same salary, what would you do?

  • on December 21, 2010, 13:46 GMT

    The fault is always with the bowlers ? The real reason for the defeat was our 1st Inn batting collapse ... All fabs batters were on their knees !!!

  • cricinfoforakshay on December 21, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    India will do well in the other matches. One test match and media starts questioning their No. 1 status??? Be more positive! Encourage the guys by mentioning their come backs rather than keep questioning their abilities. Both the indian TV channels and soft media is happy talking about the teams bad performance (except Tendulkar's). Grow up folks, the team knows their mistakes, let them dwell on those and improve. If you cannot talk positive, just stand on the sideline and watch. Go India!

  • on December 21, 2010, 13:28 GMT

    Once Zaheer comes back and india bowling on a fresh pitch things can be different, a repeat of wanderers 06 might happen ,the last 2 times SA beat ind by innings india came back strongly to win the next test, the situation is similarto SL earlier this year when india lost first test by an innings but came back levelling the series without zaheer so its just a matter of one spell similar to the one Mitchell Johnson bowled at perth to bring the momentum back in india's favour best of luck to team india

  • Fifthman on December 21, 2010, 13:25 GMT

    As long as Indian groundsmen continue to prepare slow turning pitches in India, Indian batsmen will never really get to grips with playing pace, seam and the short ball and India will never develop genuine fast bowlers. Indian pitches and general attitude is geared to producing batsmen and spin bowlers. Who would want to be a fast bowler in India on those lifeless pitches? It stands to reason that there are very few, if any, genuine fast bowlers coming out of India.

    Time for administrators and groundsmen to wake up.

  • on December 21, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    Why there is so much hue and cry from everybody on India losing only one test...If u include Zaheer in this bowling attack..this is the same attack which has won us many matches..it is always difficult to acclimatise in foreign conditions, perhaps south African have forgotten how they performed in Indian conditions last time..Just wait and watch.

  • suddyv on December 21, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    Cheers South Africa...Played good cricket. Apart from bowling, Dhoni has to consider the field placements and wicket taking plans against SA batsman. Especially Sreeshanth and Ishant looked like ordinary bowler, strike were rotated easily. For Harbhajan strikes were rotated easily on legside, with less in inner circle. Good 6 days breaks for next match. Hope India bowls better.

  • on December 21, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    Laxman must have to change his technique don't play shots as if u were in sub continent just think while paly and choose a better shot for a better bowl, he might come back strongly for the second test no doubt in that.. Coming to bajji he bowled better thought he must improve too in order to record a win for our team.. cum on india u will rock and we r hopping so.... Chak de INDIA

  • Niks22 on December 21, 2010, 12:39 GMT

    i dnt undrstand why dhoni is soo much dependent on Zaheer, in his every interview he is jst sayin dat we missed zaheer, even if he comes as if he is gonna take all 20 wkts??...not possible. What about other 4 bowlers ?? they r not capable of producing a wkt also.. then wht r they doin out der?? we just took 4 wkts in 1st match n givin away 4.7 rpo...so wht zaheer gonna do wid that ? wht will happen after zaheer's retirement ? too many questions....but same thing will happen in 2nd test as well...dhoni is sayin dat to win a Test you hv to get 20 wickets...but i m sure, india dont hv d fire power to take all 20 SA wkts in SA.

  • on December 21, 2010, 12:36 GMT

    Nice comments by dhoni. But for the next game it is better for the indian team management to pick pujara repleacement for raina is a matured thing if not india may pay d price for that.. Dhoni must have to rethink over that.. At present raina not dat much confident as pujara.. I strictly recommend dhoni to pick pujara for further matches.. Also one more suggestion to ishant is that he must have to bowl in good length areas rather then bowling short length, he is more effective when he bowls on a good length so he must have to concentrate on dat also dhoni must encourage him to bowl like dat by keeping fielding as per it.... Next coming to sree santh he must have to concentrate on his strengthen out swinger he must have to show variations in his swing he tries to swing the bowls on different lengths and make the proteas batsmen to not fnd his line and creates difificulty for them.. also suggestion for laxman is that he must have to concentrate on his technique

  • AsherCA on December 21, 2010, 12:27 GMT

    Suresh Raina and VVS Laxman's inability to spend time at the crease in both innings causes no concern to Dhoni which means he expected both of them to fail twice in the same test match - why then were they selected ? Replace them with 2 bowlers. Most bowlers would spend as much time as these guys did in this test + give Dhoni the option of another decent bowler.

  • on December 21, 2010, 12:12 GMT

    We didn't see Aussies contemplating abt their bowling attack when they were at the helm. So much for the ICC's no1 test team. Usually we see articles being flooded by all sorts of comments by Indian fans but looks like they've come to realize that that 'the dog who barks doesn't always bite'.

  • spinkingKK on December 21, 2010, 12:10 GMT

    I think this over-rate issue needs to be revised by ICC. Because, often, you will find that if a team concedes 4 to 6 runs an over in a test match, they will also fall behind the over rate. Because, most of the time, the ball is going to the boundary and a lot of time is wasted in those run fest. It is not the fielding captain's fault that the opposition batsmen are having a run fest. It is not fair that if you have a weak bowling attack, the captain of that team is also penalised for slow over rate.

  • mohamed1984 on December 21, 2010, 12:08 GMT

    "Our bowlers are not express quick. They don't generally bowl over 140-plus" as aptly said by dhoni, India could not produce a bowler someone like wasim, waqar. They have very very strong batting line up but have very weak bowling attack and with this attack they cannot imagine a series win in SA,AUS etc

  • on December 21, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    Dear Dhoni, when are you going to drop Bhajji and bring Ashwin into squad. You people are wasting Ashwin Ramachandran that too with the form he is in.

  • ChuckyDoll on December 21, 2010, 11:35 GMT

    I like this MS Dhoni. Everyone is pointing fingers at Raina and batting, whereas, the real concern is the bowling. I think they will make amends in the 2nd test. .... the bowlers.

  • on December 21, 2010, 10:23 GMT

    what eva ms dhoni thinking de still cant avod ne deafeat sA gonna win the series even one day as well..

  • on December 21, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    Bring inYusuf Pathan, lakshmi balaji and they can be always your hard lining bowlers.

  • anver777 on December 21, 2010, 8:02 GMT

    Not a dream debut for 18 year old Unadkat......even other experienced bowlers couldn't capture more than 4 SA wickets, so India surely need to improve their bowling for 2nd test to match SA team !!!!!!!!

  • MENDIS_Forever on December 21, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    now...wait..what happened to ABHIMANYU MITHUN.He did well in srilanka.taking 4/123 on a flat track ,on debut is a good thing. But he disappeared soon after.Drop SREECAN'T and overrated UNADKAT.

  • Ooops on December 21, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    Let's give chance to Unadkat and drop Ishant

  • on December 21, 2010, 5:32 GMT

    I would surely agree with MSD. I don't see Indian bowling lot giving all out effort in a more responsive pitch. So pathetic to see Young bowler could only clock speed around 125kph mark. I could see remarkable shift in bowlers speed once they get into Indian team. I always hear more people in India say " bowling is not all about speed" i don't agree with them all "Deadly bowling is all about speed with control". It's poor to see a country of billion can produce quality batsmen but not a single outright quick bowler. i would request all kids playing cricket as a bowler to bowl quick with control and even if you get selected pls bowl quick, just don't think about playing long for India. You'll be remembered for what you achieve and for how long you played.At last i would request Indain spectators to encourage and enjoy good fast bowling as they do for hard hitter with out foot works.

  • wincrick on December 21, 2010, 5:27 GMT

    The Indian bowling attack looked toothless in the first test. It is said that the team whose bowling is weak should make it up by putting big runs on the board. This was not to happen as Indian batsmen succumbed without putting up a fight in the first innings and this is where the game was decided.Suresh Raina totally looked out of sorts as his weakness against quality fast bowling was once again exposed. Before the test match began Indian batsmen practiced very hard in the nets with the exeption of Raina who batted the least. If this is his attitude then he should be dropped for the next test and make way for Pujara who has a better technique.

    Abhijith Radhakrishnan.

  • Nadeem1976 on December 21, 2010, 5:06 GMT

    Ho ho. Thanks Mr. Dhoni for accepting the fault which is bowling in Indian team at this time. You cannot have better batsmen then this ever in indian cricket not in 60 years. But bowling is so week. Need to improve on bowling. And please stop playing ever match on Flat track in india. Make some bowler friendly too so that you can get practice for away games. Not good planing.

  • on December 21, 2010, 3:59 GMT

    But the worrying fact is that we lost in centurion which is probably the flattest track in SA.Dale Steyn actually swung the ball more in india than in centurion.Also there was no reverse swing. There is no doubt the ball will swing more in durban and capetown.

  • long_handle9 on December 21, 2010, 3:33 GMT

    Poor Dhoni; has to cater for the most one-eyed supporters in the world. I feel for the chap, really.

  • sunny_gaur on December 21, 2010, 3:29 GMT

    its true india's bowlers(without zaheer) are as toothless as my 90 year old grandma but what was most dissappointing was ishant coz we all know how unreliable sree is, unadakat was making a debut so expectation were quite low but the ineffectiveness of ishant really was a major blow we have seen him bowl gems on similar Wckts. Also this show again asks the questn WHERE THE HELL IS IRFAN PATHAN . Sunny_gaur

  • himanshu.team on December 21, 2010, 3:17 GMT

    BCCI must take responsibility for such losses. If there were two tour games, or even one, before the fist test, the Indian performance would have been so much better, both with the bat and the ball. Just trying to squeze in an extra one day series, that too meaningless ones like the one with NZ, would not help India's cause of becoming a great test side. And being a great test side is crucial for other forms, be it T20 or ODIs.

  • on December 21, 2010, 0:15 GMT

    there is absolutely no valid reason why india cannot produce bowlers who can bowl consistently above 140kph. and we cant blame lifeless pitches for that. if anything, a slow pitch should encourage bowlers to bowl faster and beat batsmen with pace. perhaps at the grassroots level, there needs to be stress on proper technique and diet. look at the sa/aus/pak fast bowlers...they look like they work out and take care of their strength and physique...and then there are indian bowlers...they are pudgy/lanky and above all, lack discipline...barring zaheer, who has the intellect and skills to use whats he got. unless india gets a full squad of bowlers of world class caliber on a consistent basis, we cant expect to dominate good teams with our bowling

  • DeepuSamyu on December 20, 2010, 22:43 GMT

    To MSD,

    1) Please replace Suresh Raina with Pujara/M Vijay Reason SR has the temparment for ODI & T20 2) In ODI against NZ M Patel & Ashwin showed how to build pressure and take wickets. That was evident enough to bring that pair into Test against SA to replace Harabhajan and Unadkat.

  • lakshya1 on December 20, 2010, 20:50 GMT

    ERIC SIMMONS our bowling coach should be fired...it has been a while since we have seen any improvement in our bowling performance.

  • Quicket on December 20, 2010, 20:49 GMT

    Dear Dhoni, I understand that you are disappointed with the bowlers, and rightly so. But why are you not hauling the batsmen over the coals? I've been watching cricket for 2 decades. Our bowling is average, but every time we take 20 wickets, they have punched above their weight. Our batting is above average, and they need to be held to higher standards. This test was lost mainly due to the batting. Please don't expect the average bowlers to save us when the batsmen scored 136. In the second innings too, it was a flat pitch, and so many batsmen threw away starts. Have you guys learned nothing from Sachin?

  • S.N.Singh on December 20, 2010, 19:23 GMT

    India custom and practice was to depend on their "Spinners." But with the modern system, with coaches and different authorities the game is let to go. Why did,nt they played two spinners and two fast bowlers and two fast bowlers and Why Dhoni did not bowled Sewhag. He alwasy get wicket and broke partnership ? Why are we depending on our "fast bowlers?" India's bowling is not doing so well since we have coaches making decisions and allowing to be a selector. This is where the game gose wrong. It is management, telling the captain what to do. S.N.Singh u.S.A.

  • vpk23 on December 20, 2010, 18:58 GMT

    GET YUSUF IN THE TEST TEAM... IF WE CAN AFFORD TO LOOSE TEST MATCHES LIKE THIS WITH THE BIG GUNS WE MIGHT AS WELL LOOSE WITH A SECOND STRING TEAM. AT LEAST THE EXPECTATIONS WONT BE THAT HIGH. SERIOUSLY I THINK Y PATAN CAN MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERNCE .WITH THAT DESTRUCTIVE EDGE IN HIM..JUST IMAGINE HIM WALKING IN AT NO 7 NOW WITH HIS NEW CROUCHED STACNCE TO COUNTER THE PACE N BOUNCE. SMELLING GOOD ON PAPER FOR NOW... CAN'T WAIT TO SEE HIM GIVEN A CHANCE..AT LEAST THE BOWLING TEAM WILL BE WARY OF HIM...HE MIGHT GIVE SOME CHANCES...BUT WHAT HE IS CAPABLE OF NONE NEEDS ANY INTRODUCTION..IF HE IS CAPABLE OF CHANGING THE COURSE OF A MATCH IN PRESSURE SITUTATIONS BE IT IN A DOMESTIC OR ODIS THEN OF COURSE HE CAN VERY WELL CHANGE ANY SORT OF MATCH SITUTATION..NO HARM IN GIVING HIM A CHANCE N A HALF...IF SANJAY BANGAR CAN PLAY AS AN ALLROUNDER THEN YUSUF TOO CAN MAKE THE CUT IN TESTS...WHOOOAAA! HOPE THE SELECTORS HAVE THE GUTS TO DO IT..

  • on December 20, 2010, 18:34 GMT

    When did India ever produce any good fast pace bowlers?MS Dhoni must be dreaming if he thinks India can produce good fast bowlers.India has always relied on it's strong batting.

  • yedda on December 20, 2010, 18:24 GMT

    What was inept was the selection of the team itself.When I saw the selection of bowlers, I was agast. For heavens sake please incude 4 fast bowlers in S.Africa tests because of the nature of the pitches.Harbajan and partime bowlers can take care of the spinning dept. The fast bowlers should be chosen based on their recent form and performance.Batsmen, please practice and be focused and learn how to deal with diffferent types of situatios. I would like to take this opportunity to heartily Congratulate dear Tendulkar for his super-human achievement and also raising our spirits in the 1st test which depressed us so much.His humilty and his greatfulness to God need to followed by us all. God be with you all. Merry Chistmas and Happy New Year to all I have no doubt that our team will come back and retain their No1 position. Thanks to Cricinfo for your dedecation for this great came and keeping us upto date in every detail. God bless the Indian team and the team in Cricinfo.

  • ianChappellFan on December 20, 2010, 17:45 GMT

    being a non-indian and neutral in this case, i honestly think sharma, sreesanth and harbhajan as a core gorup of bowlers were pretty decent as a bowling unit. i felt indians were going through the motions in the field and not working towards any well though out strategy. i feel dhoni as a captain has shown some rare qualities but since he is not a bowler during the field he is unable to help his bowlers, perhaps like a ian chappel or imran khan would do. he does some good tricks with the field placing and tactical things. since india will obviously persist with dhoni as captain i think kirsten is a misfit as coach and if he leaves it will be a blessing in disguise, otherwise on foreign pitches they will have a hard time with bowling teams out. they need someone like waqar younis, to make bowling strategies, like waqar manages to do even with bowlers much worse than the indian trio.

  • Rahulbose on December 20, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    "Our bowlers are not express quick. They don't generally bowl over 140-plus."

    The eternal curse of Indian cricket. Why can't they find one natural athlete in a nation of 1 billion?

  • addiemanav on December 20, 2010, 17:29 GMT

    what is very certain is that the indian team(bowlers) will always do well when they are provided with some swinging conditions and the pitch has lot to offer..they suffer when they need to extract something from the wicket..the reason being slower speeds and lower force put behind the ball..here they had to hit the deck instead of just ppitching the ball..this is a massive difference between the 2 sides..i am sure if you provide movement,SA batsmen will also struggle which wont be surprising because everyone throughout the world struggles in such places..i think the test series india won in eng in 07 was superb effort in conditions with lot of movement..anderson and sidebottom were terrific in that series,but so were zaheer and RP singh..but SA is a very different place!bowlers hav to b much strongly built..the momentum behind the ball also counts!!but giving 600+ in 120 overs was poor..if pacers could'nt do it,it was harbhajan's responsiblity to stop the flow!he too failed miserably!

  • kesavramesh on December 20, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    Yeah, when you loose you bother to point the fingers on others. Why dont you be more proactive and make sure that you get rid of Ishant and Sreeshanth in particular and chuck out the unwanted H.singh in the bowling dept. If you are on overseas tour you canot win matches with 4 bowlers, you need damn all-rounders. Accept the fact and start planning and put some thoughts on your mental strength. Pick the sqaud with Gambir, Sehwag, pujara, dravid, tendulkar, dhoni, irfan,ohja/chawla, munaf, nehra, mitun, umesh

  • gaurav1992 on December 20, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    first of all, it dhoni si inccorect in saying that our bowleers barely reach 140+, they dont even reach past 135+, our so called fast bowlwer only took 2 wickets as compared to south african's 15+ wickets...seocndly, virender sehwag in both the innings played very poor shots to get out since in any format of the game you need to get the a good start which sehwag failed to provide. lastly, a suggestion to dhoni, plz take murali vijay instaed of raina for teh next test!!!

  • on December 20, 2010, 16:56 GMT

    not be surprised by dhoni's worries. every indian captain faces the same coz of india's under-rated bowling performance every now and then

  • kalyanbk on December 20, 2010, 16:47 GMT

    The bowlers are the ones always criticized. One has to look at the age and experience level of the bowlers on hand. Only Harbhajan had the required experience and of late he has not been at his best although the pitch is not suited to his style of bowling. I believe that the blame really lies with the batsmen. If you look at their experience level and the amount of runs they have scored, it was sad that none of them could score a fifty in the first innings. The conditions were tough but no one seemed to be able to build a test innings. They all seemed to be in a hurry to play shots. There was this sense of desperation that comes from lack of belief. That too when SA had only two potent bowlers.

  • asadkum on December 20, 2010, 16:26 GMT

    Mohammad Asad from USA ................................................................. I do agree with you !!!!! Anxiously waiting to see how #1 ranked team 'cope with that in the coming 2 games'.

  • on December 20, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    I think as a spinner Bhaji has no place alternate is Ohja who is way better than bhaji. Fast bowling depart will be better with Zaheer's come back if he get some swing. Udakat has no place, he need to play domestic and get some experience and increase his pace.

  • on December 20, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    I absolutely agree. Also they could have tried and got back some bowlers like Nehra, RP Singh Irfan Pathan or Praveen Kumar rather than handing a new cap to Unadkat who is not experienced enough. Team India bowling is poor without Zaheer.

  • on December 20, 2010, 15:44 GMT

    Cant keep saying we lose first test and comback in the next. It cant happen all the time, what if we lose the following tests also?

  • on December 20, 2010, 15:36 GMT

    Indians love batting as opposed to slogging and running like a workhorse to deliver balls. That is the simple truth and is true at all levels of the game(including street games). A good bowler never gets his credit. Kumble and Kapil Dev were the two of the greatest Indian bowlers. Zaheer is a good bowler, but very depending on him does not cut it. India has to play on its strength, which is batting. The problem with the batting is everyone except Sehwag thinks there is Sachin to protect the team. If Indian batsmen cannot handle MMorkel and Steyn, quit now. If you can't handle bounce, please don't wear the Indian cap. I don't want any batsman getting out without making a century. Sachin has never been a tournament/cup winner for India. We need the rest of the team to understand and play to their full potential. VVS and Dravid need to retire, bring in S Tiwary and Kohli.

  • on December 20, 2010, 15:30 GMT

    ALWAYS DHONI SAY," MANY REASONS IN TEAM PERFORMANCE AFTER LOST", why??????????????????????

  • TRAM on December 20, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    So if Zaheer is not there Dhoni can't plan/manage the bowling attack? What is a captain's role then?

  • Rahul_78 on December 20, 2010, 15:15 GMT

    Harbhajan singh bawling average/strike rate for last 4 series is as follow: SL: 152 / 263, Aus: 33 / 74, NZ: 42/ 91, SAF: 84 / 108. Out of the 4 the first 3 series have taken place in sub-continent. These are telling and shocking facts about no1 test teams no 1 spinner. Some time hard figures are enough to give larger picture. Case for R Ashwin to be included in tests.

  • srismilea on December 20, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    Lesson for India curators, prepare Turners for the test matches from day1, Offlate we are not seeing any pitches like that. pitch committee pls look into

  • Abe4 on December 20, 2010, 15:04 GMT

    Indian bowling are sooo weak and ineffective that could not take 20 wickets compared to Africans. Very sick to see Sreesanth, Ishant & uncapped Undakat the way they bowl, same goes as Raina batting. India should bring back the potential bowler like RP Singh, Praveen Kumar, Irfan Pathan or Balaji. Zaheer should be back fit for 2nd test and hope to see Pujara back replacing ineffective Raina.

  • on December 20, 2010, 14:52 GMT

    I agree with Dhoni. Yes, we need more attacking bowlers and that area is still vacant in any kind of format. only zaheer is there as an attacking bowler. But giving all the wickets in Day 1 is not an excuse for our world class experience bats mans. they should have lengthened to the 2nd day too. so i give bad marks to our bats mans too. but they took the positive from the 2nd innings and that makes me feel that India will show better in the coming matches. Ashwin should be included in the test series as well praveen kumar. coz he is a good allrounder too in the absence of Irfan Pathan.

  • We_Win_All on December 20, 2010, 14:52 GMT

    If India are that bad in the first test why not declare it on day 1 itself and save precious time. We need a good fight on the field not meek submissions like these off the field. If only selection would have been better and selectors had the head to select Mithun instead of Unadkat it would have been a difference. I'am not saying he would demolish SA lineup single handedly, but he could have taken a couple of wickets instead of going wicketless like Unadkat and his economy rate would also have been better.

  • sselwyn on December 20, 2010, 14:49 GMT

    It is still not late to prove all your credentials!

  • srismilea on December 20, 2010, 14:43 GMT

    There are few take aways for indian team into the next test, but i think mentally they are putting lot of pressure on zak. i think he will make a difference if ishanth can fire all cylinders.Other thing is to work on NO6 which is now more crucial. i would love to see pujara at that place simply because he brings lot of energy into the fielding as he does in batting. poor boy jaydev he dosent have any talent apart from landing the ball in seam. you need pace to have some chance of taking wicket with that kind of ability.As of now Raina need to forget about test cricket and concentrate on T20 & One dayers. your days will come and will perform. test cicket is not your cake. Hats off to Master and MSD to put up fighting show againt Steyn. i will not say Morkel is class of steyn he is just bowler who can bowl bouncer. Morkel will be an ordinary bowler in flatter tracks but incase of steyn.Best of Luck india you might smell the leather in Durban as pitch likely to be.

  • JustOUT on December 20, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni, its not india where you can lay a unprepared pitch and come back strongly. Its SA, if you think you will have more positive by losing, just think how much SA will have gained confidence. I have never seen a SA team so aggressive, just watch the aggression and emotion of Dale Steyn and Morkel when they took the wickets. Look at how AB celebrated his century, i hv never seen that from AB. So beware.

  • on December 20, 2010, 14:30 GMT

    Yeah the bowling was inept but what about Dhoni's captaincy?What should we make of his persistence to bowl Raina when had figures of 6-0-58-0?The bowling has to pick up.They can't even contemplate competing in a match with such spineless performance.I think it is time we take Kohli into the test team and leave out Dravid.I think Dravid would have been history if Vengsarkar were to continue as Chief Selector even for a year?We have to groom players when Tendulkar and Laxman are around.Sachin can retire after the Australian Summer in 2011-2012 and then Laxman a year after that.The' hero worship' thing has to go as widely done by some of the fans.My point is play the likes of Pujara and Kohli for 10 tests at least when these two stalwarts are around or else be prepared to get some whooping when the three gentlemen leave at the same time.It is also pertinent to back young players with some pedigree not walking wickets like Raina.

  • Deepfreezed on December 20, 2010, 14:29 GMT

    only option is for India to force SA to prepare flat tracks so they can be competitive.

  • on December 20, 2010, 14:27 GMT

    Dhoni's outburt NOW is surprising! It is an open secret for a long time that India does not have bowlers - just ball boys. It may sound harsh, inconsiderate and hurting but that has been the fact. Lucky breaks and some inspired performances once a while have let us gloss over the ineptitude of our bowling. Some stupendous performance by batsmen have created pressure on opposition batsmen and softened them up creating an illusion we have a potent bowling squad. The pampering pitches in India have ruined the our bowling skills. The long term solution is to prepare sporting pitches but BCCI has vested interest in not doing so. In the short term, it was a bad strategy to play New Zealand (esp. Tests and THEN ODIs) in India. When you play weak teams before taking on the strongest, it tends to pull one's performance levels down. Is this a wake up call? I wd like to imagine it is but after watching BCCI in action over 30 years I am not sure anything meaningful will happen.

  • Nampally on December 20, 2010, 14:16 GMT

    If we go as far back as SL test series and more recent NZ test series, the Indian bowling was more of a first class league standard than Test class. Yet Dhoni said the Indian bowling is good and he is satisfied with it. Now with stronger batting side it clearly showed how poor the Indian bowling is. Zaheer & Harbhajan were the only 2 test class bowlers. Now Zaheer is aging & injury prone and Harbhajan is just a shadow of himself.Ashwin is far better bowler than Harbhajan right now. Why is he not in the squad?Why are Unadkat & Yadhev in the side when they are not up to test standard? M.Kartik was a fine left handed spin bowler but he has been banished - Why?.The Indian Selectors appear to be in a dreamland and are as inept as the current Indian bowling.India need to send Raina, Unadkat, Yadhev back and replace them with Ashwin, Patel & Kohli. Had VVS & Raina batted well India would have easily drawn the first test- Failed in both innings.Every batsmen needed to perform as SA did.

  • on December 20, 2010, 14:07 GMT

    I am quite agreed indian bowling was quite mediocur compare to south africn but India,s no, one bowler Harbhjan what an expensiv he is thare isnot any indian bowler go throug the side when they play overses. selection are very poorby bringing Raina in last totaly failiar against Newzerland i dont he will be succsesful in south africa he has no passion plays like T/20 game. Pancholi Ramam

  • poderdubdubdub on December 20, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    Dhoni is quite rightly worried about the Indian bowling standard. They failed to get more than 4 wickets in the absence of Zaheer khan. The innings defeat with this frail bowling will not help India's cause to get acceptance as the world top team. It will strenghthen the stance of world's top teams who do not credit India as the true No1. After this defeat India will continue to be regarded as an accidental No1, who does not deserve its current ICC ranking. Despite having worlds best batting line up its crucial that India improve its bowling.

  • on December 20, 2010, 13:48 GMT

    I agree with dhoni..Ok india didnt score too many runs in the 1st inning..Ok the pitch got flatter when southafrica batted..But i cant digest the fact that south africa scored runs at at such a great rate..had indian bowlers contained them or somehow managed to get wickets it would have been easier for indian batsmen in the 2nd inning to draw the match..but all said and done southafrica was a better team,they deserved to win..i will like to see how india performs in the next test match..usually they start every tour like this only.

  • on December 20, 2010, 13:46 GMT

    It was a mistake to pick Unadkat ahead of Munaf. Munaf's consistency in maintaining a good line and length would have proved crucial in that wicket which had good bounce and carry. I guess Dhoni has always been reluctant when it comes to picking Munaf due to his lethargy in the field. But I think he gotta go with 2 changes at Durban - Zaheer back (if he is fit) in place of Unadkat and Munaf for Sreesanth. On the batting front, Pujara needs to come in for Raina.

  • Smasher79 on December 20, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    Just one question to the indian fans and the selection panel. What in the world did you see in this poor 19 yr old bowler? At his pace even my 16 yr old cousin can smash him out of the ground. And you guys have thrown him into a big sea of sharks making him a lot vulnerable. I truly truly feel sorry for the lad. I support Dhoni's worries here. During the entire cricketing history of india, the population of billions has not been able to produce once a formidable bowling attack. Bowling has been worrying the past captains, remains present, and will remain in the future by the looks of it. My only advice to dhoni, don't expect too much, you will only get disappointed.

  • on December 20, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    India always has been a very ordinary bowling attack unless the game is played in their backyard , it seems MS is searching for few excuses , India is a good side but not a world class team, Indian fans will understand the reality after next year's world cup ...!!!

  • passionate_cricket_follower on December 20, 2010, 13:30 GMT

    first of all why has been novices like jaidev, udkant or whatever been selected for such an important tour against the likes of kallis, amla, smith, de villliars? harbajan can have a bad match. but to be true, India went in with 2 bowlers in the match: Harbajan (1) + Sreesanth (0.5) + Ishant (0.5) + Udakant (0) = 2. you cant expect 2 bowlers to take 20 South African wickets! why not try Praveen, Munaf, Nehra in tests? I dont see any reasons for "shielding" them for WC. if they are not fit enough to play tests, they shouldn't be in the WC squad!

  • insightfulcricketer on December 20, 2010, 12:56 GMT

    Put Amit Mishra and Munaf Patel on a plane and send Ojha and Unadkat back would be a saner move. The way Kallis was playing against Sachin's leg break lollies told you the importance of leg spinner on bouncing tracks of SA. Come on Amit took there best bastman De Villiers,Kallis and Graeme Smith in single innings in Kolkata this year. That should have counted for something. Bhajji is too much in a comfort zone and his bowling has gone to pieces. Time to give him a jolt too.

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:49 GMT

    225 runs in one session!!!!! its crazy from indian bowlers. Srikkant and selectors should be sacked for including Uadkat and yadav. they are very raw......nehra, munaf, RP, mithun, dhawal where are these guys!!!! C'mon srikkant & co. open your eyes.

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:48 GMT

    Sreesanth & Ishant Sharma ending a match without wickets is un-explainable. Ishant got two wickets, but not to his credit, the batsmen was throwing away their wicket. These two bowlers have been the bowling attack of India in tests for some time now, along with Zak and they are expected to perform far more better. Jaidev ending a match without wickets can be explained, as this is just his first match, but not for Ishant & Sree. I hope they make corrections in their game in time for the second match and make Zakky's experience count!

  • karthik132 on December 20, 2010, 12:47 GMT

    Why is that India do not prepare turning wickets just like SA produce bouncy pitches? Why should we end up playing the gracious hosts, and not be ruthless like other countries? Just because visiting teams to India and the foreign media criticize dustbowls that we end up not providing one? Kanpur is a fine example. India played to their strengths and the visitors complained about an unfit pitch. It's time we gave back as much we get and not worry about what the visitors think. If they have to play on dustbowls, they have to master it to win it.

  • SnowSnake on December 20, 2010, 12:42 GMT

    Unfortunately, worring is not gonna solve the problem. There is nothing in reserve that India can use. You will have to carry on through the series with this attack. The problem was 1st innings batting. Even with the inept bowling, India could have gotton a draw in this test, if it was not for the first innings fiasco.

  • MENDIS_Forever on December 20, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    now wait...wait..where the hell is MITHUN.He did well during the recent SL encounter. 4/123 in the very first bowling innings!. Not many can do it in our Flat Tracks.It is high time to say goodbye to SREECAN'T,and find out a better bowler.

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:33 GMT

    Plan of taking two young guys as back up seamers has backfired. All the talk of india's pace attack has come to Naught. Yes it was a flat but then we could not even stem the flow of runs. Guess Smith was right in accession that Harris was better the Harbajan. He neither contains nor takes wickets. May be its time we give him a break. Sad part was Harbajan was our best bowler of Test for India. Thats the sad part! India could have helped itself by taking some back seamers like Praveen, Munnaf.

  • Fifthman on December 20, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    Sreesanth has become a joke; chubby, ineffective and full of his own importance. He can't get wickets and can't contain the batsmen. Why do India persist with him?

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:24 GMT

    So Sad . I think dhoni now understand the importance of toss . when india won t20 world cup he said that he practiced a lot for the toss . why cant he do it now. Then suresh raina's test carrier may be end up for a while . Pujara gonna be the one person who will kept his place in the test side. Anyway we lose the match .It is very difficult to bounce back in the series. hope they will WIN the next match and try to square the series. Come on INDIA . WE CAN DO IT . ALL IS WELL.

  • Sanj747 on December 20, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    Even with Zaheer Khan coming back, hard to see India taking 20 wickets. Talk about impotent bowling. In Kallis, Smith, Amla and De Velliers, the SAF batting is as good if not better than India's. De Velliers has proven what a class bat he is and scord runs all over the world in the last 3 years. Anyone who seriously takes India as the number 1 team in the world must be kidding themselves. Hard to see them winning a game. Would have been more useful if Kirsten and co had them play some first class cricket before the test.

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    get rid of Undadkat and Raina. Thats the job half done !

  • sankar800 on December 20, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    Indian bowling san Zaheer is pathetic! Zaheer's return may boost some plus but he alone cannot take 20 wkts. Big Problem for Dhoni.......

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    Bring in Mithun in place of unadkat. He will be a better bowler. Also he can be handy in lower order.

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  • on December 20, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    Bring in Mithun in place of unadkat. He will be a better bowler. Also he can be handy in lower order.

  • sankar800 on December 20, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    Indian bowling san Zaheer is pathetic! Zaheer's return may boost some plus but he alone cannot take 20 wkts. Big Problem for Dhoni.......

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:21 GMT

    get rid of Undadkat and Raina. Thats the job half done !

  • Sanj747 on December 20, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    Even with Zaheer Khan coming back, hard to see India taking 20 wickets. Talk about impotent bowling. In Kallis, Smith, Amla and De Velliers, the SAF batting is as good if not better than India's. De Velliers has proven what a class bat he is and scord runs all over the world in the last 3 years. Anyone who seriously takes India as the number 1 team in the world must be kidding themselves. Hard to see them winning a game. Would have been more useful if Kirsten and co had them play some first class cricket before the test.

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:24 GMT

    So Sad . I think dhoni now understand the importance of toss . when india won t20 world cup he said that he practiced a lot for the toss . why cant he do it now. Then suresh raina's test carrier may be end up for a while . Pujara gonna be the one person who will kept his place in the test side. Anyway we lose the match .It is very difficult to bounce back in the series. hope they will WIN the next match and try to square the series. Come on INDIA . WE CAN DO IT . ALL IS WELL.

  • Fifthman on December 20, 2010, 12:26 GMT

    Sreesanth has become a joke; chubby, ineffective and full of his own importance. He can't get wickets and can't contain the batsmen. Why do India persist with him?

  • on December 20, 2010, 12:33 GMT

    Plan of taking two young guys as back up seamers has backfired. All the talk of india's pace attack has come to Naught. Yes it was a flat but then we could not even stem the flow of runs. Guess Smith was right in accession that Harris was better the Harbajan. He neither contains nor takes wickets. May be its time we give him a break. Sad part was Harbajan was our best bowler of Test for India. Thats the sad part! India could have helped itself by taking some back seamers like Praveen, Munnaf.

  • MENDIS_Forever on December 20, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    now wait...wait..where the hell is MITHUN.He did well during the recent SL encounter. 4/123 in the very first bowling innings!. Not many can do it in our Flat Tracks.It is high time to say goodbye to SREECAN'T,and find out a better bowler.

  • SnowSnake on December 20, 2010, 12:42 GMT

    Unfortunately, worring is not gonna solve the problem. There is nothing in reserve that India can use. You will have to carry on through the series with this attack. The problem was 1st innings batting. Even with the inept bowling, India could have gotton a draw in this test, if it was not for the first innings fiasco.

  • karthik132 on December 20, 2010, 12:47 GMT

    Why is that India do not prepare turning wickets just like SA produce bouncy pitches? Why should we end up playing the gracious hosts, and not be ruthless like other countries? Just because visiting teams to India and the foreign media criticize dustbowls that we end up not providing one? Kanpur is a fine example. India played to their strengths and the visitors complained about an unfit pitch. It's time we gave back as much we get and not worry about what the visitors think. If they have to play on dustbowls, they have to master it to win it.