South Africa news December 23, 2010

South Africa need a coach that can challenge them - Dippenaar

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Boeta Dippenaar, the former South Africa opener, has said South Africa needs a coach who can "challenge them". Corrie van Zyl, the team's current coach, will step down after the 2011 World Cup and Dippenaar is one of the five members of the panel appointed to select a new national coach.

Dippenaar, who will represent the South African cricketer's association on the panel, and van Zyl will be joined by Cricket South Africa chief executive Gerald Majola, Andrew Hudson, the convenor of selectors and Andy O'Connor, cricket committee chairman, to choose the national coach. van Zyl will return to the High Performance Centre in Pretoria in April, where he was the coach prior to his appointment with the national team.

Applications for the position close on 7 January 2011, after which the panel will meet to form a short-list. "It's important that the panel finds common ground and that we know what we are looking for in order to appoint the best coach for this particular group of players. We want to appoint someone who can take them forward and help them grow," Dippenaar said.

Dippenaar, who played 38 Tests and 107 ODIs for South Africa, said it will be vital to find a coach whose character will blend well with that of the players. "We will have to look at the different personalities in the national team and find someone who can work with them."

The issue of personality clashes has been closely associated with the South Africa coaching job. Former coach Mickey Arthur was rumoured to have resigned because of differences with the administrators. He was also labelled a puppet of the senior players in Herschelle Gibbs' autobiography To the Point.

Dippenaar played under four national coaches, the last of them being Arthur, and said he could not provide an objective view of the Arthur regime because he didn't spend enough time under him. He was full of praise for current Dolphins coach Graham Ford, who coached South Africa from 1999 to 2002. "He was a great coach and unlucky because he had two bad series against Australia and then lost the job." South Africa won eight out of 11 series under Ford, but lost back-to-back series against Australia in the 2001-02 season, which cost him his job.

The other coach Dippenaar played under, whom he has kind words for, is India's current bowling consultant, Eric Simons, who took South Africa to the 2003 World Cup. "I think Eric was before his time. I don't think he had a mature team at the time, but now the team is more settled and more mature."

Simons is part of a three-man South African contingent that is currently charge of the Indian team. Gary Kirsten is the head coach while Paddy Upton is the mental conditioning coach of the team. Rumours are rife that Kirsten will be head-hunted for the South African job and Simons and Upton may be tempted to follow him. Dippenaar would not be drawn into whether Kirsten is being targeted by the panel, simply saying "everybody is in the running."

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Fastbowler55 on December 24, 2010, 15:42 GMT

    I think you'll find that WARREN SMITH knows absolutely nothing about cricket. In 2010 SA played 16 ODI's and won 12. A winning percentage higher than any other country in the same format in the calendar year. In Tests we won 5 and lost 1, with 4 draws. A lower losing % than any other country. In T20i's Sa played 11 and won 8. Winning percentage marginally less than ENG. In Tests for 2010 JK averages 90, AB averages 88, Amla averages 86, and Smith averages 58. Dale Steyn is Ranked number 1 Test bowler, Morkel number 3. AB and Ala are ranked 1 and 2 best batters in ODI's. Please, WARREN SMITH, explain to me just how SA are lacking in consistency ?

  • anver777 on December 24, 2010, 9:20 GMT

    Come on SA give the current coach a farewell by winning the 2011 World Cup !!!!!!!

  • xylo on December 23, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    @Warren Smith, consistency as in consistently losing the tour opening match? ;-)

    For the most part, I admire Gary, but I would say that the bowling stocks of India's Test team worries me - Zaheer has always been the mainstay, and he doesn't seem to have a quality substitute.

    Compare this to John Wright's time when Srinath, for once, was bowling well, and was being backed by Nehra, Zaheer, Irfan, Balaji etc.

    I feel that India should have traded Sania Mirza for a bowler from Pakistan, which seems to have endless bowling stocks!

  • on December 23, 2010, 21:03 GMT

    Coach: Gary Kirsten Batting coach: Kepler Wessels Bowling coach: Allan Donald Consultant: Duncan Fletcher Consultant: Lance Klusener Consultant: Jonty Rhodes = WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

  • on December 23, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    i cant belive gary will leave indian team, hope BCCI will take a note of it , let us see we can s get him back if we win world cup, hope BCCI will do evryhtin to retain him..

  • LazloWoodbine on December 23, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    @sehwagologist - Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Is the naughty corner too much for you? Clearly SAns aren't THAT bad in the eyes of the BCCI, given the fact that Kirsten has been your most successful coach in years.

    I'd like to see a strong personality take up the post. Smith is a tough character, and going forward (post Smith) a solid coach will help stablise the transition. Not sure who, though....

  • hashabjp on December 23, 2010, 17:19 GMT

    @Warren Smith ...i think south africa are more consistent than india. India has lost to sri lanka in most of the tri series in the final. They should be the one called "chokers". South africa aren't chokers, they just had bad luck but i wonder how long this luck will elude them. I think Gary Kirsten would do tremendous justice to this much talented proteas side. Help them make the most dominant force in world cricket. If i was the selector i would personally ask Corrie to continue his tenure for another two year. He has done tremendously well with this side and the confidence is oozing out of them. He has helped them glue as a powerful unit. Great job Corie Van Zyl. GO PROTEAS.

  • stormy16 on December 23, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    This is a cinderella situation with Gary looking to move SA would be foolish to even start looking. The only thing they should be looking for is Gary's support crew which surely has to include Allan Donald and Wessles. Its a no brainer unless SA want to choke on this decision!! Gary's coaching is more about the mind and will be better equiped to deal with the chocker tag.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on December 23, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    can they finally find a coach who can hlp them remove a shameful and brazen tag of CHOKERS and force them win atleast one silverware why is it that these guys stumble at the semis and particular breed or quality are saffers to stumble in crunch matches CHOKE under pressure or is it a god gifted talent ?

  • on December 23, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Gary ready to leave India. SA step up the search for a new coach - wonder whos gonna get it? ;) Must say that the one thing he brought to the Indian team was consistency - and that is sorely lacking with the proteas.

  • Fastbowler55 on December 24, 2010, 15:42 GMT

    I think you'll find that WARREN SMITH knows absolutely nothing about cricket. In 2010 SA played 16 ODI's and won 12. A winning percentage higher than any other country in the same format in the calendar year. In Tests we won 5 and lost 1, with 4 draws. A lower losing % than any other country. In T20i's Sa played 11 and won 8. Winning percentage marginally less than ENG. In Tests for 2010 JK averages 90, AB averages 88, Amla averages 86, and Smith averages 58. Dale Steyn is Ranked number 1 Test bowler, Morkel number 3. AB and Ala are ranked 1 and 2 best batters in ODI's. Please, WARREN SMITH, explain to me just how SA are lacking in consistency ?

  • anver777 on December 24, 2010, 9:20 GMT

    Come on SA give the current coach a farewell by winning the 2011 World Cup !!!!!!!

  • xylo on December 23, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    @Warren Smith, consistency as in consistently losing the tour opening match? ;-)

    For the most part, I admire Gary, but I would say that the bowling stocks of India's Test team worries me - Zaheer has always been the mainstay, and he doesn't seem to have a quality substitute.

    Compare this to John Wright's time when Srinath, for once, was bowling well, and was being backed by Nehra, Zaheer, Irfan, Balaji etc.

    I feel that India should have traded Sania Mirza for a bowler from Pakistan, which seems to have endless bowling stocks!

  • on December 23, 2010, 21:03 GMT

    Coach: Gary Kirsten Batting coach: Kepler Wessels Bowling coach: Allan Donald Consultant: Duncan Fletcher Consultant: Lance Klusener Consultant: Jonty Rhodes = WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

  • on December 23, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    i cant belive gary will leave indian team, hope BCCI will take a note of it , let us see we can s get him back if we win world cup, hope BCCI will do evryhtin to retain him..

  • LazloWoodbine on December 23, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    @sehwagologist - Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Is the naughty corner too much for you? Clearly SAns aren't THAT bad in the eyes of the BCCI, given the fact that Kirsten has been your most successful coach in years.

    I'd like to see a strong personality take up the post. Smith is a tough character, and going forward (post Smith) a solid coach will help stablise the transition. Not sure who, though....

  • hashabjp on December 23, 2010, 17:19 GMT

    @Warren Smith ...i think south africa are more consistent than india. India has lost to sri lanka in most of the tri series in the final. They should be the one called "chokers". South africa aren't chokers, they just had bad luck but i wonder how long this luck will elude them. I think Gary Kirsten would do tremendous justice to this much talented proteas side. Help them make the most dominant force in world cricket. If i was the selector i would personally ask Corrie to continue his tenure for another two year. He has done tremendously well with this side and the confidence is oozing out of them. He has helped them glue as a powerful unit. Great job Corie Van Zyl. GO PROTEAS.

  • stormy16 on December 23, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    This is a cinderella situation with Gary looking to move SA would be foolish to even start looking. The only thing they should be looking for is Gary's support crew which surely has to include Allan Donald and Wessles. Its a no brainer unless SA want to choke on this decision!! Gary's coaching is more about the mind and will be better equiped to deal with the chocker tag.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on December 23, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    can they finally find a coach who can hlp them remove a shameful and brazen tag of CHOKERS and force them win atleast one silverware why is it that these guys stumble at the semis and particular breed or quality are saffers to stumble in crunch matches CHOKE under pressure or is it a god gifted talent ?

  • on December 23, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Gary ready to leave India. SA step up the search for a new coach - wonder whos gonna get it? ;) Must say that the one thing he brought to the Indian team was consistency - and that is sorely lacking with the proteas.

  • Valis on December 23, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    What they need is a coach who can put the Smith clique in its place.

  • Coolhand_Luke on December 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Shame on India if they let Kirsten and company go... although, Dhoni said last week that Kirsten might have "family issues" that could persuade him not to renew his contract. SO perhaps there is something in the rumor mill

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  • Coolhand_Luke on December 23, 2010, 14:39 GMT

    Shame on India if they let Kirsten and company go... although, Dhoni said last week that Kirsten might have "family issues" that could persuade him not to renew his contract. SO perhaps there is something in the rumor mill

  • Valis on December 23, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    What they need is a coach who can put the Smith clique in its place.

  • on December 23, 2010, 14:48 GMT

    Gary ready to leave India. SA step up the search for a new coach - wonder whos gonna get it? ;) Must say that the one thing he brought to the Indian team was consistency - and that is sorely lacking with the proteas.

  • CharlieAlanJakeHarperFamily on December 23, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    can they finally find a coach who can hlp them remove a shameful and brazen tag of CHOKERS and force them win atleast one silverware why is it that these guys stumble at the semis and particular breed or quality are saffers to stumble in crunch matches CHOKE under pressure or is it a god gifted talent ?

  • stormy16 on December 23, 2010, 17:06 GMT

    This is a cinderella situation with Gary looking to move SA would be foolish to even start looking. The only thing they should be looking for is Gary's support crew which surely has to include Allan Donald and Wessles. Its a no brainer unless SA want to choke on this decision!! Gary's coaching is more about the mind and will be better equiped to deal with the chocker tag.

  • hashabjp on December 23, 2010, 17:19 GMT

    @Warren Smith ...i think south africa are more consistent than india. India has lost to sri lanka in most of the tri series in the final. They should be the one called "chokers". South africa aren't chokers, they just had bad luck but i wonder how long this luck will elude them. I think Gary Kirsten would do tremendous justice to this much talented proteas side. Help them make the most dominant force in world cricket. If i was the selector i would personally ask Corrie to continue his tenure for another two year. He has done tremendously well with this side and the confidence is oozing out of them. He has helped them glue as a powerful unit. Great job Corie Van Zyl. GO PROTEAS.

  • LazloWoodbine on December 23, 2010, 18:01 GMT

    @sehwagologist - Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? Is the naughty corner too much for you? Clearly SAns aren't THAT bad in the eyes of the BCCI, given the fact that Kirsten has been your most successful coach in years.

    I'd like to see a strong personality take up the post. Smith is a tough character, and going forward (post Smith) a solid coach will help stablise the transition. Not sure who, though....

  • on December 23, 2010, 18:41 GMT

    i cant belive gary will leave indian team, hope BCCI will take a note of it , let us see we can s get him back if we win world cup, hope BCCI will do evryhtin to retain him..

  • on December 23, 2010, 21:03 GMT

    Coach: Gary Kirsten Batting coach: Kepler Wessels Bowling coach: Allan Donald Consultant: Duncan Fletcher Consultant: Lance Klusener Consultant: Jonty Rhodes = WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

  • xylo on December 23, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    @Warren Smith, consistency as in consistently losing the tour opening match? ;-)

    For the most part, I admire Gary, but I would say that the bowling stocks of India's Test team worries me - Zaheer has always been the mainstay, and he doesn't seem to have a quality substitute.

    Compare this to John Wright's time when Srinath, for once, was bowling well, and was being backed by Nehra, Zaheer, Irfan, Balaji etc.

    I feel that India should have traded Sania Mirza for a bowler from Pakistan, which seems to have endless bowling stocks!