South Africa v India, 1st ODI, Johannesburg

South Africa trounce India in harsh welcome

The Report by Sidharth Monga at the Wanderers

December 5, 2013

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South Africa 358 for 4 (Amla 65, de Kock 135, de Villiers 77, Duminy 59*, Shami 3-68) beat India 217 (Dhoni 65, Steyn 3-25, McLaren 3-49) by 141 runs
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Cullinan: Poor Indian performance


Quinton de Kock pulls away to the leg side, South Africa v India, 1st ODI, Johannesburg, December 5, 2013
Pink wasn't pretty for India: Quinton de Kock punished the Indian bowlers © AFP
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South Africa brought Floyd-like edge to the word pink as they welcomed a clearly undercooked Indian side to the country with a 141-run hammering. Quinton de Kock, the baby face in baby pink, combined ferocity and cheek in his 135, and assisted by supporting fifties from Hashim Amla, AB de Villiers and JP Duminy, gave India 359 to chase. On a pitch made to look placid by their bowlers, the India batsmen were on a hiding to nothing against a six-man pace attack that was at them from the start, when it took them 16 balls to even touch a Dale Steyn delivery.

During that first spell, Steyn caused India more trouble than the visiting bowlers did in the whole South African innings. On their first day of international cricket on this trip, the India bowlers were given the best of conditions: they won the toss, bowled when the pitch was at its freshest, and avoided the dew. However, with the exception of Mohammed Shami, they didn't test the batsmen for long enough, and when they did their fielders were off their game. Amla could have been run out on 7, and should have been caught on 8, but was let off by the India openers Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma. De Kock, too, survived a half chance early in the innings, but that was all impression the bowlers created.

Amla started scratchily, he scored just 65 out of the 152-run opening stand, but de Kock looked in fine touch from the start. The third ball he faced was a leg-side half-volley from Bhuvneshwar Kumar, and he tucked into it. The last ball of that over was short and wide, and was cut away for four more. Mohit Sharma at the other end produced a fine fourth over, but he saw a top edge from de Kock fall short of the diving Shami at third man, and Rohit at cover did not come in to take a loopy leading edge from Amla. Two overs earlier Dhawan had missed the stumps from pretty close at mid-on.

Amla would rub it in by soon taking 14 off three balls to reach 23 off 29: a punch through cover, a walk across the stumps to play the pick-up over midwicket, and then a cut past point. De Kock needed no such acceleration, and his 27 off 23 had taken South Africa to 53 in nine overs. Shami began with a maiden, and it was about the time when Dhoni goes to his spinners for control back in India. At the Wanderers, however, the ball didn't grip and the pitch didn't slow down; R Ashwin bowled too short, and Ravindra Jadeja too fast.

It was not all milking from the opening pair: they found boundaries in six of the seven overs between Nos. 22 and 28. After 11 overs of spin for 62, MS Dhoni had to go to pace, not least because South Africa had called for an early Powerplay in the 30th over. An offcutter from Shami, and a mistimed chip from Jacques Kallis gave India two wickets in that 32-run Powerplay. During that period de Kock smacked a Mohit slower ball for six, and then took two singles to bring up his century. It was just a sign of things to come.

As Dhoni went back to spin in the 36th over, de Kock and AB de Villiers began to push into a higher gear. Without any violence - mainly through chips over mid-off, a late cut and one slog sweep - de Kock went from 101 off 102 to his eventual 135 off 121. When Virat Kohli, who took de Kock's return catch, gave the batsman a send-off, little did he know the wrath that awaited India. De Villiers and Duminy hit the bowlers around at will. Most of it was just clearing the front leg, and smacking length balls to all the stands. De Villiers even hooked a six from one knee. This was a statement of intent: we can do what we please.

The yorkers were few, the slower balls easily picked and dispatched, and de Villiers and Duminy added 105 in the 7.4 overs they batted together. Between them the two hit nine sixes and eight fours. De Villiers had scored 77 off 47 when he fell, which looked sedate in comparison to Duminy's unbeaten 59 off 29. An even hundred came off the last six overs.

Then it was over to the other wing of the welcome committee. Conditions couldn't have looked more different. The ball began to seam, swing and bounce. Dhawan looked comfortable during two Lonwabo Tsotsobe overs, but top-edged the first ball from Morne Morkel. Steyn softened Rohit up well and proper, but it was Virat Kohli who fell first to a shortish delivery from Ryan McLaren that seamed away to take the edge. In the next two balls, McLaren delivered the good-old one-two to Yuvraj Singh: a bouncer into the crash helmet followed by a fuller one that took the top of off stump.

Suresh Raina came in, didn't fancy the strike, called Rohit through for a poor run. Rohit should have said no. He now had a lot of time to go over his innings. The contest was finished well before it became 65 for 4 in the 16th over. Even as South Africa bowled their less-menacing bowlers, MS Dhoni's 65 only delayed the inevitable.

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Posted by haegger on (December 9, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

india performs pathetically. no point chasing350's on dead flat tracks. have to pull their socks up if they want to replicate 2011.

Posted by abidurrehman on (December 8, 2013, 5:13 GMT)

Winning %age at out of country's grounds Pak win% = 63 % India win% = 12 %

It means that India will not will even a single match

Posted by DominantDhoni on (December 8, 2013, 3:20 GMT)

For all Indian supporters, i dont think we need to panic, even though we lost the match by 141 runs we maintained run rate above 5. In my opinion, if the couple of run outs betwwen 15 and 22 overs didn't happens then it would have been a total different story. Yuvaraj needs to step up his game, as Dhoni mentioned once when he gets a few runs on board then every thing will be fine. 100% agree SA has got better bowling, chasing 350 all Indian batsmen played as per requirements of the match, two run outs were bad luck. A bit of pat on the back to our bowlers and Yuvaraj to step up, then every thing will be fine, sure our guys will bounce back stronger than ever for rest of the sries. Come on team India show the world we are no 1 odi team for a reason.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (December 7, 2013, 19:35 GMT)

India's oversees record of late: Eng 0-4, Aus 0-4, SA 0-1 so far. It is a shame that REAL batsmen like Pujara, Badri, Jaffer, are considered "too slow" for ODIs. Class and technique transcends format. I am surprised Raina does not get the flak from his captain or analysts for basically making India look like a 9-men team. He almost always runs 1 batsman out and then gets run out himself. I am quite baffled as to why is he always living on the edge. He creates panic when there is none. Batting is all about soaking up the pressure and making it easier for the next batsman coming in. Raina mostly leaves the ground after digging a deeper hole for the rest of the line up.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 7, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

Outside India, we can't afford to play both Yuvi and Raina - one of them has to be replaced by a proper batsman like Rahane, Rayudu or Badri. Same thing with Ashwin and Sir Jadeja - one of them has to be replaced by a pace bowling all rounder like Rishi Dhawan or Pathan.

Posted by ketaann on (December 7, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

india should bring zaheer,harbhajan. This younger bowlers always perform poorely n will continue. SA should take advantage of this bring your non-form batmen n see the results, they will be in best of form.

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

A good victory for SA & a bad start for india. In hindsight I think bowlers let the Indians down by leaking too many runs. As for batting I think india haeavily relies on its top three & dhoni to finish things off. But Indians can look at the positives. the way rohit handled steyn except few misses was superb. his bat was so steady. Un fortunately when he got his eye in he was run out. that was the turning point. all the best for the next match !

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

Great Indian batting has masked Indian terrible indian bowling in past 10 years.

Cannot figure out why critics don't see that AVG TEAM TOTALS IN NON INDIAN GAMES ON SAME PITCHES & WITH SAME RULES, ARE 100 RUNS LESS THAN AVG TEAM TOTALS SCORED AGAINST INDIA............................Indian bowling is conceding 100 runs more compared to other teams in same conditions. While Ind was conceding 360every game to AUS Pak was conceding only 220 to better batting attack of SA on simi;ar flat tracks with same ODI rules

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 7, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Suddenly Pakistan look like a decent side. They certainly have more bite in their bowling attack than India, but a swallow doesn't make a summer abd SA should beware an Indian batting backlash.

Posted by Smahuta on (December 7, 2013, 12:50 GMT)

@ Praveen Sindhagi - This was not prepared to be some sort of devlish pitch. What a lot of people seem to forget is that a 20 year old kid barely out of school flayed the hapless indian attack all over the place on this very same pitch. This is a batting track people, not a bowlers pitch, this is the same ground SA chased down 434. The ODI decks at the Waderers are usually good for batting. The test pitch is another matter entirely. Don't blame the pitch and conditions for the shortcomings of your batsmen. Just because they hit double centuries on runways doesnt make them great batsmen. Great batsmen can score anywhere, which is what makes them great.

Posted by Capricorn60 on (December 7, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

Was totally predictable after India struggled against the pace of Steyn & lost heavily, there would be many opportunists waiting to call the Indian team 'flat track bullies' & such. If this is indeed true, then logically England must be flat track bullies too considering they are currently struggling in Australia against the pace of Mitchell Johnson after winning the Ashes convincingly at home not long back! Frankly it proves what a load of nonsense these assertions are! Why does any team in virtually every sport consistently have a better home than away record? Cricket is no different & it is simply a case that players/teams are used to home conditions but to try to do well away, this is why they have warm-up matches to acclimatize & get used to different alien conditions. However India nor other teams are given this luxury these days due to the cramped cricket itinerary decided upon by administrators of the game.

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 6:35 GMT)

We should understand that SA's bowling was really good since its thier mother land and ground is prepared to support thier bowlers. Everybody were angry during Rohit's batting who has faced 69 balls to score 19. we should see Dhoni's batting also who has faced more than 125 balls to complete his half century. Yuvraj and Raina has to give chance other who is having best performance. We will defeat SA in next matches that s for sure Let us have confidence on our players who has won serial series

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 6:35 GMT)

Indian fans, don't need to panic just yet. It was only the first game of the series and let's be honest.. Indian team had reached merely 48 hours before the game. You can't acclamatize yourself with the weather, bounce and other factors that fast. For next game, they will be better prepared. It's their bowling that's more of a worry than their batting. Just like Pakistan suffers more because of their fragile batting.. but I expect better performance from India in their next matches.. but if Steyn and Co remain this hot.. this will be hostile...

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 6:16 GMT)

I totally agree with TSJ07 Yuvi is one bowler you cant line him up kevin tried his best too and became his bunny yuvi gives more air and has variations up his sleeve. Dhoni keeps harping we will make yuvi comfortable and take the pressure of him infact not making him bowl he has added more pressure on yuvi rather helping him out . dhonis csk team mates Ashwin,Jadeja,mohit,raina are playing in south Africa not in India they should know. Just few wickets in his kitty will do good for yuvi,raina is good for left handers only

Posted by SamrPK on (December 7, 2013, 5:35 GMT)

Glad to see de cock performing and glad to realize how better we Pak were in bowling to restrict SA champs under 200 or 250. those who say this pitch had more pace and swing and bounce compared to Pak tour then its even more honour for our bowling who managed to restrict SA tigers and win. Good luck SA for this tour, My all support with them

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 7, 2013, 5:29 GMT)

....Pandey and few others are better bowlers than him and he was selcted based on his 3-4 good IPL outings in just one season.Otherwise he has hardly impressive domestic record.Pandey was part of India A tour to SA and was very succesfull, more than Shammi but how come he is not part of team now? May be just to adjust Mohit. And why playe two spinner in same match?Why not give Yuvi to bowl and ask Raina to do so when we all know Yuvi is much better part-timer than Raina? These are the question we should be asking Dhoni instaed of eugolising him.The only thing we can prevent our whitewash is better team selection and nothing else.SA do not have much back of Steyn and Morkel and rests are ordinary for Indian batting strength.We just have to be clever to play out Steyn on difficult pitch.

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 4:56 GMT)

India will bounce backbin second odi .. dhoni doesnt expect poor performance from bowler's .. rohit ., kholi .dhawan they will prove in next match .. we need to change a playing eleven... yuvraj or raina give a way for rahane or rayudu.. mohit replaced by umesh .. ... pujara time to call him for a odi .. we are not able to hide a world class batsmen because of dhoni doesnt like him ..

Posted by Desihungama on (December 7, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

@Eat_sleep_play_cricket -All you said is true but you are missing the point. A Pakistani 35 is like a 70 and a 100? OMG. Don't even ask. Problem with our players is different. WIth the exception of Hafeez, Misbah, Afridi and bowlers no one is sure of their place and are always playing with double minds. Though trend seems to be changing for good at the very right time keeping 2015 in mind.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 7, 2013, 4:22 GMT)

Tendulkar must be smiling in his bungalow and thinking - boy, am I glad I didn't go to South Africa!

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 7, 2013, 3:23 GMT)

@CricLover316:Virat & Dhawan both are born to play on bouncy pitches.I still remember how Virat dominated in ODI's during India's last tour to Australia.He is capable no doubt.& how Dhawan played in CT..Yes i know there's no comparison between India-Pak batsmen.But still such thing came to mind after watching Steyn Bowling with the new ball.There's just no stopping for Steyn..Day by day he is getting more fearsome.Such a perfectionist he is..That 1st over..All deliveries landed at almost same spot..Batsmen just had no answer to that.It's a treat to watch Steyn bowling...He's like that in ODI,what will he do in Test matches..Gets double dangerous with red ball in hands..

Posted by aa61761 on (December 7, 2013, 2:47 GMT)

Indian batting is not bad, they can score decent amount of runs on any kind of tracks but their bowling is not capable of defending any thing less then 350. India will lose all matches in South Africa.

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 7, 2013, 2:03 GMT)

@Kashif Ali on (December 6, 2013, 13:41 GMT) If pakistani bowlers are best in all conditions - how come they were the worst team in the Champions trophy r could not even beat Zimbabwe?-and how did India win the Champions Trophy, beat Windies in the Carribean, and beat Zimbabwe in Harrare where your Pakustan team was humiliated if Indian batsmen are best in india only. And if Indian bowling is third class everywhere how come we won all of the above this year?

Posted by MichaelBurton on (December 7, 2013, 2:02 GMT)

I think most of the comments from Indian bashers are really true. I am too begining to believe we are a team only with flat track capabilities. It was pathetic to watch how our so called ODI greats were strugling against fast bouncy pitches like associate teams let alone our below average bowling. Ban would definitely play better than how we played in this match. Good luck mother India hoping to see fight back in the next encounter.

Posted by Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on (December 7, 2013, 1:53 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa : How big is the wanderers stadium? Last time I checked it has one of the shortest boundaries in the world. Aus managed to score 434 runs on the Wanderers stadium and maximum they scored in India was 350.

@Danno: Ahemad Shezad is definitely a talent who scored a century after 18 matches (i.e. after 7 months) and was out for zero the very next match. His Scores in last 4 matches (0, 102, 35, 2).

Posted by Fastcric on (December 7, 2013, 1:00 GMT)

I think india is in big trouble..its not easy to play against SA..SA have best bowling attack to smash batting line up of any side.Indian batsman struggles against them...This is the real test for india if u are no 1 than prove it . If india want to still alive in series than they have to bowl well...This time credit goes to Pakistan they have best bowling attack and ability to defeat any site easly...

Posted by   on (December 7, 2013, 0:47 GMT)

I think to be honest India is in big trouble its not easy to play against SA whether india have best batsman .. SA have best bowling attack to smash batting line up very easliy...if india really wanted to stay in series than they have to bowl well...india have ability to bounce back.... well this time credit goes to Pakistan bowling.. If You are no 1 side than show it all now this is real testing for india this is not flat pitches.

Posted by Limpfisch on (December 6, 2013, 22:26 GMT)

To all those people saying India isn't the #1 odi side in the world, you never seem to actually say which team is!! Tell me which team is more deserving of the number 1 spot please.

Posted by sysubrceq0 on (December 6, 2013, 22:14 GMT)

@Blade-Runner - Check the Indian team stats from last 2 years (Jan 2012 - Dec 2013) - Indian team played 17 ODis (W/L - 9/7) in India and 32 Odis (W/L - 22/9) outside India. India fared well in last 2 years outside India. one match cannot be basis to judge Indian team. SL team played 25 Odis (W/L - 13/8) In SL and 33 ODis (W/L - 13/18) outside SL. India fared well in last 2 years outside India than SL outside SL. SA lost to SL 4-1 in SL and lost to India 2-1 in India in 2010. Also SA lost a home series recently, this means SA is also a bad ODI team which never won any iCC trophy.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 6, 2013, 21:42 GMT)

The super fast bowling on fast and bouncy pitches have troubled batsmen since inception of the game. Jardine had troubled australians and Bradman in the past Thommo and Lilee and other westindian greats had done same to many batting greats.Very recently Trott of England has been traumatized by Johnson. So its wrong to blame only Indian batsmen of not being able to play on fast and bouncy pitches. Its case of every batsman. At least none of the Indian batsmen left the tour and went home. Against India though problem is confounded by their weak fast bowling units, other wise given the exposure Indian batsmen will play better than many and coming matches will prove that.

Posted by Reverse-_-Sweep on (December 6, 2013, 21:17 GMT)

Indian cricket team is the most overrated team ever! They rely heavily on their top 3, and if they fail, Indians are gone!! I have have no idea why Yuvi and Raina are still in the team. Also I really don't know what to say about the Indian bowlers. Words cant describe the Indian bowlers. Pakistan, Australia, England, and South Africa are the top 4 teams in the world right. Ii really want to see Pakistan vs India in the Uae, so Pakistan can prove that they are the best!

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 6, 2013, 21:12 GMT)

Calm down Pakistan fans- If India loses a match, that does not make your Pakistan team ranking or in any way better. England is hammered in foreign conditions in Australia despite a month of warm up matches, Windies is hammered in foreign conditions in NZ . Dont forget Pakistan were all out for 49 in South Africa! Pakistan got massive hammering in Zimbabwe conditions and struggled against Ireland! (Both are regarded as minnows). its funny to read all those comments and advise to the worlds top notch team from some minnow 7th ranked Pakistan team !. You all have short memories that in world cups the score is India 9- Pakistan 0 zip, nothing!!. Thats in any ground in the world! I feel sorry for Pakistan team- they have more fans interested in Team India. Well, everybody follows the champ in any sport!

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 6, 2013, 21:09 GMT)

With such a weak bowling attack, can someone please tell me how they got to No.1??? I thought the game of cricket was about batting and bowling?

I have seen PAK play for the last 6 months now against SA, and they are a superior side on an evenly contested wicket (bat and ball). On a flat track India are better because of their batsmen being used to hitting flat balls on tiny grounds.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 6, 2013, 20:57 GMT)

@Harmony I hope India gets to bat first and post a bigggggggg score, that will bring out all those who have gone into hiding right now. And also allow us to compare stats with Ahmed Shehzad. Right ? And I am indian, not much fan of current indian team but indian nevertheless. I dont blindly support the team to do well, when I know few of them are arrogant bunch. How else do you explain Kohli giving a sendoff to the 20 year, baby faced batsman who had carted our bowling all over park and scored an magnificent 100 ?

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 20:47 GMT)

I think any other team on that pitch against that kind of bowling would've been bowled out under 150 but india reached 200 which is good to see that they fighting it out rather than just capitulating.the main problem of the loss was that our bowlers didn't have the pace required to succed on that pitch which was noticed when south africans bowled as their lesser bowlers(tsotsobe and parnell) struggled bcoz they didn't have the pace of steyn and morkel but if india had played umesh and had dhoni started with shami n umesh it wud've been a different ball game.umesh might struggle on ind pithces but when he's given this kind of a pitch he can be potent as we saw in the CT warm up game where he bowled Oz out for 65 on a not too dissimilar pitch than this pitch. And I'd prefer only one of yuvraj/raina both can't play in the same 11 both of them have similar style of play,we need a solid batsman like rahane/pujara at 4.if these things are corrected we'll bounce back in the remaining matches.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 20:31 GMT)

@Peter_Jones2012:

Do you know the place where India chased 321 runs in 37 overs some time ago? Was that in India? Was that a small ground? People like you are either totally uninformed or so blithe to facts that they almost make a legend in that regard.

Posted by Bang_La on (December 6, 2013, 20:11 GMT)

Hope the bragging of India fans would recede and at the end of the series it shall be totally mum!

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 6, 2013, 19:44 GMT)

894 comments and still going strong! This supports one point - love her or hater her, you cannot ignore her - that's Team India for you folks. Love it, when Sri Lanja and Pakistan fans spam our boards. Team India is indeed special. No other team polarizes opinion like Team India does. Way to go Champs! Just a good learning curve. Tighten-up some screws, nuts and bolts - you are ready to race again with no competition in sight. I absolutely love to see this many messages for a single ODI involving 'flat-track' bullies. Hahaha...I'm having a laugh. Am I not? And so are a billion Team India fans.

Posted by sysubrceq0 on (December 6, 2013, 19:30 GMT)

No: of comments indicate how much hatred against Indian team across the globe. Even Ashes doesn't get these many comments for 1 test match. This tells you that love it or hate it but cannot ignore India. Its good for Indian team to have so many fans (including jealous & hating neighbours). teams who were all out less than 50 in an innings are talking about Indian team. India team thrashed SA in CT13 and also in last tour of SA to India. Why people cant take it as a game, sometimes you lose and sometimes you win. Same SA team lost 4-1 to SL recently and agreed to cancel test series afraid of getting white washed by SL. So be patient to conclude the series, one match all are jumping guns against a young team where lot of guys are young and first Intl tour to SA and landed less than a week.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 19:14 GMT)

@Peter_Jones2012:

Do you know the place where India chased 321 runs in 37 overs some time ago? Was that in India? Was that a small ground? People like you are either totally uninformed or so blithe to facts that they almost make a legend in that regard.

Posted by CricLover316 on (December 6, 2013, 19:11 GMT)

Indian bowling(Except Shami) is a more of a bottleneck than batting. Umesh Yadav has to come in place of M Sharma and Rahane in place of Yuv. .Regarding batsmen, it really seems an unnecessary and over the top bashing of the batsmen. Its as if, some people were waiting for them to lose a match in SA and BANG. Kohli,Dhawan,Rohit and Dhoni all looked good. Rohit although started slowly, did the right thing leaving those outswingers of Steyn.And after getting set was handling the pace and bounce well,but the silly runouts of his and Raina gifted the match to SA. Even Raina,who played the short balls well and kept it down was scoring well. It was a case of spending time on the crease and getting set,which they did.

This was by no means a 350 pitch, 280 would have been very chasable. Bowlers have to more tight,specially at the death.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 18:57 GMT)

SA wasn't able to make even 300 runs in their last 17 ODI's. The reason they played against Pakistan in 13 of them. Won 8, lost 5 against Pakistan, among which we have seen very close encounters like SA winning by just 1 run and Pakistan winning with the same margin. Against Pakistan bowling attack they were unable to play as freely as they did against India. India play 70% of their matches at home, because BCCI is the most powerful cricket board. The conditions in India suits batsman, but whenever they are against a good bowling attack they are shattered. Whenever India play outside, they get beaten like they were beaten by England in all the matches, T20's, ODI's and Tests, and against Australia in Australia they again lost all the matches. So in my view this series will again be a white wash in favour of SA, because of India's sluggish and pathetic bowling attack.

Posted by CricLover316 on (December 6, 2013, 18:50 GMT)

@Solid_Snake- I agree with some of your points. But I'd like to say the Indian batsmen played the Pace well early on. But you just cant compare Ind-Pak batsmen. Rohit was leaving most of the deliveries early on from steyn,you cant just poke at those balls from steyn early on. He was connecting well after spending some time there.He was looking set,when he was run out. Dhawan loves pace n bounce,it suits him(we saw that against SA in Eng and when he toured SA). He was trying to dominate early on,handle Tstostobe & steyn in his brief short innings. Infact forced tstostobe out of the attack. He"ll do good. Kohli excet a few deliveries,dealt with the pace of bowlers well and was well set(before he got a beauty). Yuv(Nuff about him) Raina n Rohit were two wasted wickets. Regarding Rohit,no matter what people say,he like to spend time at the wicket and score runs. Even though its tough out there(Just watch some of his innings in CT13,one he gets his eye in,he's really good)

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (December 6, 2013, 17:48 GMT)

SA has better win ratio against India, in both formats. As AB said, the grounds in India are small and pitches batting friendly. So, it's not surprising that teams score so much runs. You have to work hard and show guts to score runs in SA. Indian batsman's looked scared in the first ODI so lets see ay.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 6, 2013, 17:24 GMT)

Continued:Loot at the Rankings of Nz...Even they defeated SA in ODI series. Also it's a fact that SA ODI team is in building process.5/11 players have not played more than 40 ODI matches.Experimentation is going on just like Pakistan team.Still SA performed that great..Defeating World Champs with such a huge margin..& Champs who have got a winning combination,all settled & Highly ranked players & a long list of reserved players for almost every slot.Still such bad performance makes me curious..Yesterday it looked like Pakistan batsmen playing in Blue jersey...Rohit reminded me of Hafeez..How helpless Hafeez used to be against Hafeez...Saw Dhawan & Nasir jamshed came to my mind..Saw Dhoni & Misbah came to mind..Same scenario just different players now..

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

This was inevitable. SA has eventually found respite from World's best bowling attack of Pakistan and naturally will restore pride by hammering below average bowling unit of India. I reckon it as 100% clean sweep series in favour of SA despite strong Indian batting line up as it will have no answers in South African conditions.

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 6, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

Yes I agree that it was both bowling and batting failure, in fact fielding too with Rohit dropping a sitter when Amla was on 8 or 9.But can someone tell which team can come to India and play a match 2 days after its arrival on a pitch helping spinners equivalent to that yesterday's pitch which was helping seamers? Surely fault is with our board who should have sent the team earlier for couple of practice games. I have not lost hope yet coz apart from Stein and up to some extent Morkel no other SA bowler look threatening for Indian batsmen. Dhawan however needs to bit more selective with his shot making and Raina should make way for Rahane with Dhoni at 4 and Yuvi at 5 with Umesh,Ishant replacing Buvi/Mohit. Infact Jedja can also be replaced with a batsman like Raydu.

Posted by P4K1ST4N_7 on (December 6, 2013, 16:55 GMT)

That was brutal massacre...............congrats SA fans.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

India should concentrate in balling than wasting time on batting. Batting is reasonably OK. The day we get ballers like morkel and steyn you won't see teams preparing pitches like these for us. Doesn't matter how good is technique in batting, class bowlers will always find the edge.

Posted by I_Love_My_India on (December 6, 2013, 16:21 GMT)

If history is any sort of indication, India will win the 2nd ODI and SA will win the 3rd as well as the series. In the last series, the first one was one by SA comprehensively, but the 2nd and third one by India, the final two by SA and the series. It gave us a star in the name of Virat Kohli. See http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2010/content/series/463136.html

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

almost every team playing now fare much better in home conditions. England won at home but they are struggling in Australia. Pakistan won more matches when playing in dubai than in sa. India after trouncing Australia and wi at home are struggling in sa. new Zealand are set to defeat wi at home. it is all about home advantage

Posted by Temuzin on (December 6, 2013, 15:34 GMT)

@ Al_Bundy1 : The tripple tripple centurion was third highest scorer of the team behind Dhoni and Kohli. You should have asked question like how was batting of double century maker in ODI who even could not touch first sixteen balls from Steyn. So please stop being unduly critical to jadeja. He did reasonably well in fielding, bowling and batting department compared to others.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 6, 2013, 15:33 GMT)

@cricketsunami :Outside India's home ground on foreign pitches...Dhoni is no different than Misbah ul Haq..Fighting all alone & scoring runs while other batsmen marching back to the dressing room.We saw this scene when India toured Eng & Aus..The only difference is that Dhoni SR is always great.

Don't want to compare 2 teams but this thing amazes me when people say that Pak has got great bowlers & India got great batsmen..That's true but Pak having such pathetic batsmen,still won a test match against Eng in Eng & also defeated Australia in Eng during last tour.Whole world laugh at Pak batsmen but still Pak somehow managed to win in Eng by defeating Eng & Aus both..With such pathetic batting line up,Pak won ODI series in SA...Bowlers did most of the job thats true..But atleast they lived up to the expectations... So the question is..How come India underperforms like that in every foreign tour?What happens to their batsmen who have such a great record,great Avg's but still no use...Why

Posted by AnshulP on (December 6, 2013, 15:33 GMT)

History repeats itself, because we don't pay attention to it the first time - South Africa v India, 1st ODI, Durban

Ruthless South Africa win by 135 runs The Bulletin by Sriram Veera January 12, 2011 http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2010/content/story/496451.html

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 15:23 GMT)

Stuart Binny could be a good option as a fast bowling all rounder instead of wasting time with Jadeja on overseas tours.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 6, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

@nikka kaka:If Vinay kumar was in team,this SA total would have crossed 400..lol India got great bowlers..& the bowlers ready to take place of current bowlers,they are even better :p ..A Big pool of great Pacers waiting in line to show their talent :) India's Batsmen are also great..But dont know what happened to them yesterday.They'l bounce back i am sure...But the point is...Yesterday's match showed the future..It's now clear what would happen in the test matches :P The question is..Will Indian bowlers capable of taking 20 SA wickets in a test match?Time will tell

Posted by Temuzin on (December 6, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

@Abdullah Xaidi: So you agree Dhoni is a class batsman who can butcher any bowler on Indian pitch and can bat on foreign pitch also. He made 65 yesterday. Didn't he?

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

india will get back soon on southafrica

Posted by mahi678 on (December 6, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

I could see overwhelming comments.... not this many comments come when india wins. its high time to bring pujara into ODIs..... make some one injured... and get him.

Posted by likeintcricket on (December 6, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

Indians batsman are good and they will come good here also after spending some more time in SA. I think that is a good workout for them to be prepared for Tests. I knew that was coming for India. It happened before for all Asian sides. The fans has to accept the fact that all top teams are nearly equal as cricket is a 11 men sport and anyone could win a single match. SA could have been beaten by Pakistan in UAE also if luck favored them with their tosses and if they prepared better for their own (Imram Tahir). However they showed that SA despite lofty claims are certainly beatable everywhere. Though they have two of the best players in AMLA and AB. As ajmal said AB is the most talented and amazing cricketer at this time. He can play any bowler on any wicket easily if he wants too. He might not be as hungry for runs as Tendulkar but he certainly is very capable. Now they have the best young talent in De Kock. It is really hard for India to get them out unless someone really step up.

Posted by AvidCricFan on (December 6, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

I would put large portion of blame on BCCI. It is scheduling overseas series with no time to prepare the team. The overdose of cricket and handsome financial rewards at home is not helping build right skills in players. I see the repeat of 2011-12 performances of the team in England and Aussie in this series. There is no anchor batsmen in the middle order and bowling continues to be weak as before. India needs Pujara to become anchor batsman in the middle order. Bring in Zak to bolster bowling. I am not sure whether Yadav is fully fit. He can also bleed.

Posted by mark2011 on (December 6, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

what a pity for India... having played so many flat bully style cricket when they face with real fast track with best fast bowling ..this is what happnd....had it been in India.. as usual India may have chased this down thanks to flat track concept.....so now dont come up with excuses...there's a limit for everything.....I think SA gonna teach India a good lesson this time.....all the best for SA for series win!!!

Posted by Nampally on (December 6, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Pujara is the best suited #4 with correct footwork & sound defence. India & Dhoni simply cannot afford to keep Pujara out. Yuvraj just cannot play pace bowling as Johnson proved it in the Australian ODI series. He played awkwardly at the first ball & was bowled on the second. It was just a straight ball which found the gap between bat & pad- with poor footwork from Yuvraj. Dhoni is desperately trying to fit a square peg in the round hole. Yuvraj & Raina are not #4 batsmen for India. The case of Rohit Sharma was sad as he was brutally run out by Raina. He should have just refused the run. He had played himself IN patiently & was in the process of opening up! The worst was Raina himself got run out. Chasing 358 in 50 overs is a huge task even without these unnecessary Outs. Indian seamers were poor except for Shami. Why did Dhoni not open with Shami is a mystery! Yadev at 140 KPH must partner Shami + add ZAK. These 3 are better Combo. Move forward with ZAK & Pujara in the ODI XI.

Posted by Pradeep-Malappattam on (December 6, 2013, 14:12 GMT)

Actually this what I expect was happen.its never easy to win against any team such a bowling department.Its so sad to see how SA play against Indian bowlers and same pitch how SA bowlers manage Indian world class batting.Sure same story will happen if India depend same team. Defenitly Yuvi,Jadeja,Aswin & Raina should sit in side bench.Also Bhuvi,Mohit to be rest and capable only in swinging pitch against some avarage team.

Posted by gyanesh.dan on (December 6, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

indian players need to get prepared Mently playing overseas.....

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:59 GMT)

A Class Batsman is only who can perform on every kind of track..... well Indian batsman are good but they don't like all tracks other than Batting track.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:55 GMT)

I think now Indian bowlers have a mammoth task in front of them... Kohli always likes to chase the target, but it's not possible 4 him to slam century every match! Indian bowlers should maintain precise line and length against SA batsmen, frustrate them the way Steyn troubled Rohit Sharma, and it's not completely that pace troubled the Indian batters, Tsotsobe bowled at 130 kph or so, but was still less expensive than our fast bowlers! Indian bowlers need to deliver on right line and length and ensure they don't offer loose balls to SA batsmen. Dale Steyn was absolutely phenomenal both in bowling & fielding, his awesome direct throw to De Kock resulted in Suresh Raina run out. I feel Yuvraj needs a break, he's struggling with his defence, he had no idea of the straight bowl delivered by McLaren, he should make way for Rahane or Rayudu, there's no point in just including a player & giving him no chance. Hope the Indian top order shows some resilience ahead in this series. All the best!

Posted by LahorePak on (December 6, 2013, 13:49 GMT)

@ LIMPFISH, saying no team has beaten India in india, well just check last series between India and Pakisan, HOwever, I think India is a glr8 team, and they need some time to adjust, be careful for next 2 games.

Posted by New_Gen_India on (December 6, 2013, 13:49 GMT)

This was a hard hit, no doubt about that. 1st game gone, no doubt about that. ..but as far as I am concerned, the people most affected are the players themselves, specially Kohli, Dawan, Rohit, Bhuvi and most of all Dhoni himself (hopefully Yuvraj and rest would be feeling it too)

I am damn sure 2nd game will be better, batting department for a start will be very determined, they need to grind it out + not give away wickets, make the opponent earn it. (Dravid's Philosophy) Dhoni has to promote himself to no.4 if wickets fall sharply, he needs to treat the next game like a world cup final or crunch games.

For the bowlers, its high time Zaheer comes in, he has a wealth of exp. in these condition and has been giving break throughs as far as i can remember.

Therefore change 1 player MINIMUM, just get Zaheer in.

The next game will be the defining game of boys becoming men; of how quick players can adapt. I feel, India may just win it, by the skin of their teeth, but win it they will

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

@limpfisch I dunt agree with the facts stated by u. here is why Indians are not invincible at home. they were beaten by Pakistan,england and that too comprehensively.u can say they have a very good record at home. Pakistan with their mediocre batting have never lost a test series in uae . so its always about conditions suiting a certain team. same has a very good record on India.if India wants to be no 1 they should have the same record all across the globe just like old west indies and mighty Aussies. and considering the kind of bowling India currently posses I dunt see that happening. winning world cup on the same old pitches is no big deal. India is a very good team with a powerfully batting lineup but definitely not no 1 odi team

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

As pakistani supporter i watched this match to assess and compare pakistan performance with india. I found that pakistani bowlers are best in all conditions and indian batsmen are best in india only. Indian bowling is third class everywhere. It was extremely hard for south africa to score even 200 or 225 with type of batting they have.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

india is good team...but not best team in the world..thats the true..if they are best team in the world they must win the series 5-0 at least 2 or 3 series..aussies do it 2003-2011..

Posted by anand_yb712 on (December 6, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

I think Rohit played well and was trying to save his wicket. The deliveries from Steyn which other people are commenting about deserved wickets. It was only due to Rohit's resolve not to poke at them and just keep his bat steady as the delivery moved away from him that ensured no wicket was conceded. It shows good technique and not lack of it.

As far as team is concerned Mishra and Yadav need to come in place of Jadeja and Mohit.Mishra should try for wickets and Ashwin can contain as he does not seem equipped to take wickets in SA. Have Yuvraj bowl if left arm spin is needed. It will help his batting as well.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:29 GMT)

I am a South African and i know for a fact that there is no other Country that Plays better in South African pitches, sometimes we also fail to do it ourselves too.

But character is tested outside one's comfort Zone, India failed to "Get Going" and their well spoken batsmen were looking toothless and they have had a busy summer(I think they wanted to punish BCCI).. and somehow The Proteas were playing like never before(as though the had a lesson to teach BCCI)

India was outplayed and outclassed in all departments and all in all Well Played Proteas

Posted by doctorgoogly on (December 6, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

So much moning about indian cricket pitches,then why can not the called great teams win in india, so india bashers can it.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Both the teams are great no doubt and there are quality players. But it was clear from the match that India is better team while they play on batting tracks, like recently they played very well against WI and Aus in the home pitches where the bowlers were brutally slaughtered. In test and ODI's no team can take all the wickets aff other team, at least all the matches. When the flew to SA and played on a true surface the real picture came out. Heroes can perform everywhere. Hope they will cope up soon :D

Posted by UNIVERSAL_CRICKETER on (December 6, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

Beware those who have forced Tendulkar to retire by constantly criticizing him even after he scored decent 60s & 70s... The real worth & guts of these IPL tigers have been bared by Steyn, Morkel, bounce & pace.... If this is the mediocrity of these IPL tigers in a ODI.. I shudder to think, the ways in which they will be slaughtered in the 2 Test matches.... Sachin was good enough to play till 2015 World cup... due to selectors short-sightedness, India have lost the God of cricket... the experience of a life time.... called SACHIN... Recall Sehwag & Gambhir...

Posted by khanjamal12345 on (December 6, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

Indian team is like that kid who sings all poems in front of his parents but goes mute when asked to sing while visiting a relatives house

Posted by Limpfisch on (December 6, 2013, 13:18 GMT)

I see many people here are saying that India do not deserve to be ranked #1 in odis. To these people, I would like you to ask yourself the following question. Can you think of any team which deserves to be number 1 other than India? If you answered 'yes', then I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say.

Here is why I think India are worthy of number 1 ranking. 1) Nobody can beat them at home in a series, you cannot say that about any other team.

2) They hold the world cup.

3) They won the champions trophy IN ENGLAND without losing a game.

Why is it that people call them flat-track bullies? Every team non subcontinental team struggles in the sub continent yet we don't go calling south africa and australia ''bouncy pitch bullies". There is nothing wrong with a flat-track, there is no right and wrong pitch in cricket.

India loses 1 game after being poorly prepared in a country they have a bad record in and everyone gets on their back calling them useless.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 13:16 GMT)

India without good bowlers will never make it to the world scene. I think it is in their culture where too much importance is given to a batsman so everyone wants to be a batsman. This culture has to change. Mush Mulla

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 6, 2013, 13:15 GMT)

How was the batting of our triple triple centurian - Sir Jadeja? Even I can score a triple century on dead wickets.

Posted by BilloBarber on (December 6, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

hey guys here in SA there r no flat cement(thara) pitches where indian batsman can score easily ........sharma who made a record of above 200 recently in india on thara pitch cant even touch the styn ball for 16 deliveries ...wt a real shame for an indian opener ...

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 6, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

Two things emerge from the comments (1) India need to select hit the deck type bowler on hard surface - not Bhuvi and Mohit (2) Cullinan of SA has said that Indian batsman do not use their feet (Gambhir does this wel)l, this results in the Rohit type situation -stretching and feeling for the ball. Careful selection of the team is required. On this surface Ishant, Yadav, Shami and Zaks could have been effective. Pujara is needed in the ODI team. A player like Dravid should be involved with the team on overseas trips.

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

india will be thrashed 3-0 for sure

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 13:03 GMT)

Welcome to SA, our bowlers fail here first, it wasnt a 358 run wkt first of all. Rohit was struggling but he was run out unfortunately, so i dont blame him much. he was just trying to adjust to the pace & movement. Against steyn u have to take some risk. Just use ur feet & try to upset his line & length. problem is with Yuvi, raina & jadeja. seriously these 3 guys are not scoring runs in any part of world. Time to test Rahane & Raydu. Rahane can be given a chance to open with Dhawan and Rohit may be sent at 4 followed by Raydu at 5. Umesh yadav should be injected to bowling along with ishant instead of jadeja/ashwin & bhuvi/mohit. India should try to play with 4 seamers sometimes.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

There is no comparison between Saeed Ajmal and Ashwin , Saeed Ajmal is a match winner , whereas Ashwin is replacing Harbhajan ( which is very unjust for a bowler of Harbhajan's caliber ) Ashwin doesn't stand a chance in this or any other overseas tour . OK , leave all the stats aside , We'll see when India will win a series ( outside their home ) against a quality South African side , mind that Pakistan has just beaten South Africa in their home . If India will win the series ( which seems impossible ) then it will b admitted that Indian team is better than Pakistan ! Pakistan took a challenge and came out triumphant , so lets see what this Indian team is made of ?

Posted by Harmony_not_Discord on (December 6, 2013, 12:52 GMT)

There is futile discussion going on that 'mine is bigger (oops - better) than yours'. The reality is that on current performances SA and Aus are looking very good.

India no doubt, as always, has some of the best batsmen in the world but to be the best team you got to have good bowlers as well. SA and Aus seem to possess the most potent attacks right now to compliment their good batting sides - if not the best. This is why as a team both countries are doing well.

India despite such a large country can't seem to find quality pacers. On Wanderers pitch any bowler would have relished the prospect of bowling first on fresh pitch but Indian bowlers were hammered.

Indian bowling strength traditionally has always been their spin attack but even in that department other countries (like Pakistan/SL) possess better quality bowlers than the traditional spin king India.

So, unless India possesses potent attack to become a balanced side, it would never become world beaters; at least not i

Posted by HLvinodkumar on (December 6, 2013, 12:52 GMT)

On Dec 08 2013 ,in 2 odi india will surely win the match Dhawan , Kholi will rock

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

Outside India, Indian cricketers always struggle. I dont see much joy for them through the rest of the series.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:43 GMT)

Rohit Sharma looked like a person away from Cobra.Umpteen times he was not able to go to the pitch of the balls.

Frankly, we praise lavishly and compare even with all time greats, when they score few hundreds. Rohit should have guts to go down the track and smack at least once. He is still a debutant as far as fast bowling is concerned. i don't think Indians will do good in Australia too

Posted by Loofah on (December 6, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

@all.. Yeah wanna talk record ppl...lets talk record..wanna talk pressure handling ppl lets talk.. It's not South Africa who has won World Cup twice..nd yes once it ws held outside ..Wanna talk pressure hadling...It was not Indian Cricket team who lost by 1 run :P ..It ws Indian Cricket team which showed SAF the exit gate held wc T20 2007(nd it is well known where it was held) :P ...

Posted by HRK118 on (December 6, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

The Indian team has no ability to play on true, bouncy pitches. Their performance reminded me of my first attempt at roller skating as a kid. I just didn't know how to get going.!

Posted by dravidsthebest on (December 6, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

Guys,chill it was a great learning experience for Team India.Thank god,they made India play on best wickets and Pakistan on their second string pitches. Steyn was brilliant(Just like Johnson 2de) with ball and field.We have to learn from this game and make changes for next game.Bring in Rahane @4,drop raina,put yuvraj at 6,umesh yadav and misra in place of ashwin and mohit/bhuvi.I am confident we will perform better in remaining matches.Win or lose we should keep fighting.

I love when SL and Pak fans are commenting against our team.That makes our team special

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

after seeing the last match i think pakistan is a much better side because they dont play at home since 2006 and still they have players in the rankings.you say that virat, rohit and shikhar have scored 1000 runs in 2013, just try to realize how much of that runs were scored in indian flat tracks and on the other way look at misbah, he has scored on every venue despite the pace and bounce and has never played on his home ground thats really a surprise to know. India always do this they dont want to play outside of home remember last times white washes with england and australia and on the other hand pakistan still managed a victory in 2010 when their batting was nothing. just imagine what will happen to india in australia at the worldcup. They can play ipl and other tournaments in home but what will happen in the future is just a mere destiny

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:28 GMT)

good to see that south africa made 358 runs without ishant sharma and vinay kumar. that's show how strong ishant and vinay backup :D :D again glad to see that so called sir jadeja expose against top batting .

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

No change to Indian lineup will affect the outcome. Pace like fiarr!

Posted by Saif-Ali on (December 6, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

I knew that indian batsmen won't do well in south african pitches nd their fast attacks white wash on the card

Posted by Dev_Sachinfan on (December 6, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

@ all indian team haters, this is just first game only, pls be patient and come after the series got over..! Indians will bounce back surely...!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

Not a good performance from our bowlers. I remember one time when Umesh Yadav was asked about his bowling during the Australian tour(2012), he told them that Sachin sir had told him to bowl fuller length and that helped him get some wickets. This should be the tactics followed by Indian bowlers in these conditions(As has been told by everyone, but they simply don't understand). Yuvi and Raina should be dropped since they are walking wickets and cant be helpful with their spin in pace-friendly conditions. Someone like Mishra could be given a chance as he can provide some variety. Ishant can also be considered due to his experience. My choice for the playing-11 for the next match will be 1.rohit 2.dhawan 3.kohli 4.rahane 5.rayudu 6.dhoni 7.jadeja/ashwin/mishra 8.bhuvi 9.shami 10.ishant 11.umesh. You simply can't make players warm benches. Even if this combination loses it wouldn't hamper since you were testing your bench strength. Also selectors must select pujara, karthik,zak,aaron,etc

Posted by AnotherCricketFan on (December 6, 2013, 12:10 GMT)

All are gaga over MJohnson bowling in the Ashes. If one watched the way Steyn bowled to Rohit (clueless and scared was Rohit) they should forget MJ and start following DW.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

Wowawowwa!!! It was really very pleasant to see as many Pakistanis were waving South African flag during the match which shows the strong growing relationship between Pakistan and South Africa!!! I wish South Africa to white-wash India in all the upcoming matches!!! Love and Respect from an ardent lover of SA after Pak!!!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

One thing is for sure that Indians can only play on their home grounds where placid batting wickets are made . Rohit Sharma was playing like a debut boy yesterday as he scored 18 of 43 balls ! mind that this guy was coming from a double one day hundred and had a successful series against Windies ( like all the Indian batters ) So this clearly indicates that Indians are only successful in their backyard , in seaming , bouncy conditions these guys are so ordinary . Shekhar Dhawan is another such example who lost his wicket because he was not equipped to tackle the pace or bounce and went away quickly . As for the bowling attack , Indians never had a good bowling attack ever , so yesterday it was just another thrashing day against a quality batting !

Posted by cricloverr212 on (December 6, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

Its so unfortunate for Indian team that this series is held outside India... it would be a challange for them to play on alive/bouncy pitches... Indian team don't have even a single bowler who can give tough time to SA batsmen. :(

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

To be honest , India gave away 50-60 runs more. Bowlers were poor as usual and lot of improvement is needed, you can't ask batsman to chase 300 in every match. IMO batsmen were batting well in patches , but two run outs(Rohit & Raina) ruined any hope to score atleast 300 for india. This is a very good learning experience for this Indian team, i will back them to win remaining 2 matches . Even if they don't, they will be become more mature & will be more dangerous ODI side after the series. South Africa were playing 5-6 seamers. My question is that , In how many grounds in world you can play 5 seamers ? Even England is playing 2 specialist spinners in Ashes. better they find 1-2 spinners otherwise they will struggle in World Tournaments.

Posted by Messa1 on (December 6, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

I reckon the Aus hospitals would be full of Ind players next year with broken arms, ribs and head injuries etc etc. Result of M.Johnson bowling 150+ on fast+bouncy pitches

Posted by AbhiSapre on (December 6, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

...from prev one.. 3 b. Sharma was good in leaving on length after first 12 balls and then showed mental strength in acknowledging roar from crowd when he hit the ball... he showed grit needed to stay their with that kind of a spell that could unsettle most, He should be more carefull in his running between wickets and should say yes/no saw him waving his hand to virat could have been dangerous there. c. Virat looks to be in zone, but could be more careful, Morkel had him, had Decock took catch rather than trying to celebrate a little early. his wicket was to a good ball and no complaints on it. d. Yuvi is weak to short ball probably weaker than VGK. Need to test Ajinkya here, e. Raina looked a little better but needs to be careful in running needs to be little calmer and think of partner too. f. Ashwin, Jadeja, (both above expectations) Dhoni impressive as usual. @Styen you are the best #respect take a bow, Morkel is in purple zone... others not a worry. Kallis still can bowl gr8 ;)

Posted by cricktwins on (December 6, 2013, 11:57 GMT)

@ custom kid.. U talk as if india never won anything outside india in last 10 years..

India was no1 in tests for 18 months.. won in england 2007, newzealand, west indies, drew with southafrica, srilanka..

Won natwest trophy 2002,champions trophy 2013, cb series 2007 australia.. Wt20 2007 southafrica...world cup 2003 runners in SA.. last series in SA was 3-2 SA won..

Dont underestimate indian team..

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 11:57 GMT)

All of a sudden this huge defeat has no impact or meaning. A shame for a team with highest budget and in full control of ICC. For the upcoming weeks I consider myself south African. Thank you guys for making this victory so special.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 11:55 GMT)

it's not a Indian soil whr india can win its south African soil last year India exposed by England in England

Posted by Anwar-Lara on (December 6, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

after watching yesterday's game i can say at least Hafeez played Steyn better!!

Posted by AbhiSapre on (December 6, 2013, 11:49 GMT)

Was going through the comments and baring few they are all so biased across the fan base and realized it takes one match for people to either say we are best or we are worst....

Personally, this was a little on expected lines but not too thrilling for me... 1. I believe we should have known better on selection with horses for courses getting Ajinkya in place of Yuvi on 4 and may be playing Umesh in place of either Mohit or Bhuvi to get that addon pace. 2. I feel some one should have been talking to bowlers (Dhoni) to tell them to pitch it up a little, try a short one ocassionally, we were a little short and a little too much of width to free arms for SA who are used to bounce it was serving runs on silver platter. 3. I would take some positives from batting, a. If Shikhar curbs his instincts a little amd becomes choosy, he could be handful (he should open against Styen reason being left handed would be good counter to his away swing) contd....

Posted by Prakmca on (December 6, 2013, 11:46 GMT)

why most of them blaming Rohit??? He has done right to see off the best bowler. Even Tendulukar could have done the same.... Once Sehwag score 10+ runs off 43 balls against some good bowling.....

If someone is bowling very good (he is the top bowler in the world now), we have to see off first few overs. If Rohit had played some wild stroke and got out, then you guys will blame that Rohit threw his wicket cheaply without giving respect for the best bowler..... Common guys....Our batsman record is very low in SA.... considering that... DONT blame only one person the most......

It's actually bowlers let the team down, not the batsman. Good, we don't have Ishant and Vinay yesterday, else it could have been 400+ or 450+ for SA.

Posted by brusselslion on (December 6, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

India have been the most consistently successful ODI side in the world over the past 3-4 years and one defeat doesn't change that fact.

However, if being under prepared for SA conditions was a contributary factor in this defeat then, India have no one to blame but themselves, as they insisted on inserting the SRT farewell tour into their schedule.

Posted by RavishingRavish on (December 6, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

Dhoni and team, not to worry at all. We started the aussie series in similar way. At the end India won the series. I have strong belief that same will happen here. India will win this series 2-1.

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (December 6, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

I see many comments stating that India cant be no.1 team and flat track bullies...these days no team is the BEST..every other team has problems of playing in alien conditions...No team can rule every game on every ground...every team has problems..The no.1 spot is like a musical chair game where it is shifting from one team to another..I am Indian and I know that we are not the BEST team..We have a point to prove in TESTs outside Sub-continent, by this I doesnt mean we are falt track bullies, if indian have falt tracks why the teams are faling to score on these tracks, better understand this game and comment..if we talk about team dominating cricket i can only think of WI team with likes of VIV, Goel Graner, Holding, Marshall etc and the mighty Australian team of Gilly, Hayden,Waugh, Pigeon, Punter etc...now the dominaton is distributed to ODIs and Tests seperately and such domination only exists in short periods..

Posted by SurlyCynic on (December 6, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

I see some comments from India fans complaining that the pitch favoured fast bowlers. Well, there are only two quick pitches left in the world, Wanderers and WACA. And both Australia and SA also have other pitches which favour spinners. You'll see in Durban, the Indian team will feel much more at home.

So instead of complaining about one pitch which was fast, why not ask why there are a range of pitches in Australia and SA, but no pitches favouring fast bowlers in India? Wouldn't a range of pitches produce a better attack?

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 11:32 GMT)

thıs ıs the real test of ındaın batsman who are only good at thıer home.....they can not play outsıde Indıa.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 6, 2013, 11:31 GMT)

@khan_g8 - excellent analysis of the pitch. Something that Dhoni should have considered when choosing the bowlers.

Posted by rajcl on (December 6, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

guys relax tour is not yet over,,,india loss to aussie 1st match in our home also, result we won the cup,,Even south africa knew how good is india batting thats why they put 5 + 1 front line bowlers ( they want 6 fast bowlers to ristrict india ),,,, before this tour starts all worried about short pitched deliveries & they played reasonobly well,, & now swing all about matter of that they,,,,,just wait for tour result then i can accept india is not good for swing & bouncy tracks,,i didnot argue after,,,( aussies troubling england with short pitch deliverys ,,,,swing or bounce good balls always going trouble any batsman in the world)

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 11:25 GMT)

WOW!!! Congrats SA for making my weekend enjoying....Thanks to the team India for showing their 'great batting and bowling talent' lol.....I honestly wish team India to repeat the same performance over and over again....lol.....I was watching Mr.Bean's episode but I had to stop that when I saw Indian bowlers started running.......lol.........I almost fell from my chair when I saw them batting especially Rohit Sharma vs Steyn.........lol.......I seriously advise Indian bowlers to visit Pakistan and learn fast bowling from Pakistani street bowlers let alone Umer Gul, Junaid Khan, Bhatti and Anwar Ali etc.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

@siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 7:24 GMT):

What are you talking about? If De Cock drops his catch then how is it Kohli's fault? By that logic, Amla & De Kock too should be discounted cos a run out was missed & 2-3 catches were not taken. Is that how you analyze cricket?

The so called edge you talk about was something no one is sure about, yet cos it suits you here you are calling it a sure nick. That way, I could argue that ABD was plumb lbw on an occasion and got lucky.

Two of the dismissals were runouts one of which was plain luck & the other one was bad judgement. Barring Yuvi, no other batsman looked in any serious trouble. If Rohit plays 16 top balls from Steyn & survives that means he is miles better than Hafeez who can't face Steyn for 3 balls so don't talk of that. All teams try to see off the strike bwoler & Rohit was doing the same.

We look at positives & not at the negatives. This is a new tour with new players. Inexp + Talent is a curious mix that can go either way.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

it is just funny to watch these comments people talking about indian cricketers as they play well only in indian pitches which were called as flat tracks.when indian cricketers who not not batsmen in your opinion is scoring runs against ur so called world class bowlers why cannot ur great batsmen win matches against india in india against pathetic bowling line up. india team won the icc champions thropy in England recently and t20 world cup in south Africa which u people call those pitches as bowler friendly wickets.it is just a loss in one one day game which is common in cricket one team cannot win each and every game team india will bounce back to show some fight in the next one day.ur so called greatest team south Africa did not even reach the semis in the champions thropy,2011 world cup,2003 world cup.it is indeed 1st in the test rankings which I think they are worth it but not in odis.

Posted by Messa1 on (December 6, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

no need to be shy IND we know u have NO idea how to play in fast+bouncy pitches. Just a heads up when u come to AUS next year make sure to bring some extra helmets and guards cas Johnson is in extremely high form and bowling 150+!!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

lot of people here are those who accuse pitch for yesterday's game ... tell me one thing the pitch was good for fast bowling yes it was and for spinners yes but it needed a quality bowler,,, no one noticed ashwin spend 58 runs only . I also agree 58 means a lot but in a match where others went for 75, 80 that was the best figures. let me put light on the SAvPAK series, RSA used fast bowlers they bowled same as yesterday movement bounce carry but Pakistan used their strength... Ajmal, Afridi, Hafeez, and this worked... there was square turn for them they just bowled slow and asked RSA batter to hit by reducing the pace on ball it is always tough to hit it out what india did used just a specialist spinner wait hold your horses I know jadeja is leading wicket taker for india this year but on indian tracks.... don't blame track blame the approach of team india and the team selection

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

Trouble for Indian batsmen was well expected in view of past overseas record,particularly in South Africa,but what is more worriying is the performance of fast bowlers.Same wicket and how were they being thrashed all around the park.Hope they forget the first match and do well in the remaining ones.Yuvraj appears out of sorts but can be retained.The management can make room for a leggie.

Posted by drrao.nit on (December 6, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

My Dear Dhoni & Co: You are the heart beat of India. Dont,t think much about the first match. This is all part and parcel of the game. Not even a single team is having the great lion hearted players like India.Definitely yoou will rock............. . All the best my dear hero's.

Posted by AamirKhan-SuperStar on (December 6, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

Hmm this is exactly what it is, a pace test for Indians. Some would say losing here means a better prepared team for WC.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 11:14 GMT)

Where are those double century makers? Indian players are good at their home groundo only.. Dhoni is the only consistent plyer and He is the Super Captain.

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 6, 2013, 11:13 GMT)

we lost one match and all hell broke loose...gosh look at these comments in this forum...it looks like as if these guys were ready and waiting with their laptops, cellphones to post the comments the moment Ind team lose a match....phew...I will tell you what SA is all about, they will play like there is no team to beat them in all series but when it comes to major series like champions trophy or world cup you know what happens...Am not criticising SA team they played exceptionally well yesterday.. am just saying their past record..every team has some postives and negatives...Ind has to improve outside subcontinent for sure..

Posted by Prats6 on (December 6, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

Well, the problem is not in losing to SA, the problem is looking absolutely hopeless against a good bowling attack, which I may say mainly consists of Steyn & Morkel. India looked do out of sorts that it was embarrassing. I seriously hope this gives the batsmen some perspective about the double hundreds they made in India.

Posted by CustomKid on (December 6, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

There we're calls of 3-0 India plus a test series win! Decent teams get results on all wickets, the likes of England, Australia, and South Africa have all managed wins on all corners of the globe over the last 10 years in odi and test series.

If India are genuinely serious about becoming world number one and holding that mantle for a long time they need to start developing wickets that assist and encourage fast bowlers. Who would want to be a quick bowler in India? Once they do this and develop some quicks along with teaching their batsman how to handle pace, swing, and bounce, they will become contenders rather than pretenders who simply win at home.

Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (December 6, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

If Sharma were any good he would have nicked one of this first 12 deliveries... Seriously, India are a quality side who will get better. But I suspect that by the the time they do this series will already have been won by the Proteas.

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 6, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

@Posted by Abbas Ali on (December 6, 2013, 10:10 GMT) India won the champions trophy in England where Pakistan were the worst team of the tournament, bea WestIndiaes in windies, and beat thrashed Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe which for Pkistan is an impossibility!. Currently in SA one down 2 t go! Thants performance of indian cricket team outside home

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (December 6, 2013, 11:00 GMT)

This is always expected and I am happy that We lost..I am being optimistic here..this is good learning period for the young lads on how to handle pace, swing, bounce on foreign conditions..Steyn, Mornel are world class bowlers and you cant expect to dominate these bowlers at the word GO on a fast and bouncy pitch..It is the our indian bowlers who could not make the most of the pitch. and here also our bolwing unit is relatively less experienced and they will learn gradually. I am happy that ODIs are played first then TESTS.we dont have to prove that we are ODI champions, that is proved time and again, 2011 World Cup winners, 2013 Champions Trophy in English conditions where everyone ruled us out and we proved all of them wrong..it is the TEST i am worried most.we have a point to prove to the world that we can manage test wins on alien soils also, (after that 8-0 loss).young guns - give your 100% dont matter about the results, make the most of this tour by gaining experience.GOOD LUCK

Posted by Khan_G8 on (December 6, 2013, 11:00 GMT)

Look we have to understand the SA pitches: these pitches only help genuine fast bowlers who hit the deck hard. The indian medium pacers are more swing bowlers who need green pitches where the could just float the seam. If any bowler who wants to get help from SA and AUS picthes they need to be around 140 km and have to hit the picth hard with bowl. Indian bowlers will find good conditions in England because there are swinging and seaming conditions and these help meduim pacers. I They key thing for India is to play Yadev as he has pace and may get some help from SA picthes as PAK bowlers did. I still think batting will be improved if bowlers could perfom better as the yesterdays picth was a 250 runs picth. Thats why indian bats sufer as they have to clean the bad performance of bowlers.

Posted by AamirKhan-SuperStar on (December 6, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

Seems like something needs to be done to address middle order issues. Now its not possible to bring back Dravid, so why not look at options like Pujara or even Gambhir in at 4. Outside India I dont think Yuvi or Raina are the best options. Only one of them could make it to the side along with a technically sound batsman. But current squad has noone like that, not sure if Rayudu or Rahane can take that role. But still first its about bowling well in good bowling conditions changes in batting comes after that.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:58 GMT)

India was outplayed and still Indian supporters talk about their team as if they are unbeatable. Indian batsmen have great averages because they play on roads and boost it by scoring big. The wicket does a lot in SA and our batsmen still average more or less the same. accept defeat and move on to fight another day.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

Wait see Shikhar & Virat will do well in next match and hope to see Sir Jadeja to deliver the best of deliveries to shake the SA batting line Up,,.....cheers India

Posted by Omarrz on (December 6, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

After such performance, what are the opinions of my Indian friends who had been boasting about Indian batsmen performances and how they are such great batsmen! And all the time making fun of Pakistani batsmen. Now, who is a better team?

Posted by bilal2k2 on (December 6, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

@Piirate Kaptan I still think Indian batting is good but they need time to adjust in conditions. But real worry for Indian team is there bowling. With this bowling they can not defend any thing on board.But i think India should bat first to make a pressure on other side by scoring good. Here when SA make 350+ batsman automatically came under pressure. Also i suggest they have to focus on their pitches in home series it will be better for bowlers & batsmen both. Because as i am seeing after playing on those pitches bowlers approach is changed and they only want to contain not to attack and not going for wickets.

Posted by Messa1 on (December 6, 2013, 10:48 GMT)

lol Ind has no hope, they r clueless in front of steyn and co. As all of us (Sri Lankans and Pakistanis) have been saying India should seriously bow down in front of SA bowlers and go home to play only in their flat tracks. Otherwise they'll end up on the bottom of rankings!

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

12 balls in row and rohit sharma couldn't touch a single one one can imagine his pain

Posted by SHK1 on (December 6, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

Looks like another overseas series whitewash for India. Just imagine if Sachin played his last test in SA! BCCI were too kind to him.

Posted by MAK123 on (December 6, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

If you ask someone watching the Indian team for the first time after many years, he would not believe that Rohit Sharma hit 16 sixes on his way to a double century a month or so ago, against Australia's potent bowling attack! Same goes for Kohli, who's slanted bat technique, albeit flawed, was sadly exposed yeterday. I have always believed that the top three Indian batsmen of today have been over-rated by Indian fans whereas they keep forgetting that the only solid batsman in their team, after Dhoni is, R. Jadeja. Just needs a good eye to recognize the immense potential this man has but then, alas, he bats way down the order which hardly helps the Indian cause.

Posted by fguy on (December 6, 2013, 10:20 GMT)

& really you think this is how pitches should be? so then you dont want spinners to exist in the game? coz thats what will happen if all pitches are like this. the other team didnt play a single spinner. i would love to see the reactions when india plays a game with 5 or 6 full-time spinners (& only virat as seamer) on a pitch that helps only them

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

For Team INDIA!

"Be careful not to mistake insecurity and inadequacy for humility! Humility has nothing to do with the insecure and inadequate! Just like arrogance has nothing to do with greatness!"

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:17 GMT)

SA is in good form as a Team and Steyn Gun is too dangerous.

Posted by anshu.s on (December 6, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

First i like to congratulate South Africans for there fantastic win , i know all the India bashers are having a field day heaping ridicule on Indian team and fans and yes i admit that yesterday we were completely outplayed and embarrassed by Saffers, but please don't undermine the achievement of Indian cricket team over last 10 months by one really bad performance.I urge you not to pronounce any judgments until either the one day leg or test series is concluded, and please don't vanish or offer any flimsy excuses if India manages a turnaround, you can be rest assured i will be hear slugging it out manfully even if India is whitewashed.

Posted by birdz_eye on (December 6, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

No point in blaming India for last night's show. Everyone who understands cricket knows how they earned no.1 spot & championship. Next world cup is in Australia, so sides with great bowling attacks will dominate & reach the semis. For 2K15, my bet is England, Australia, South Africa & Pakistan. Scrap India out for sure even Bangladesh bowling is better than Indians. Let see how sidu paaji & company will narrate the story of the great indan downfall in S.A.

Posted by MEHATELK on (December 6, 2013, 10:11 GMT)

no indian young batsman can ask excuse as they are new to foreign condition if you Wants to be FUTURE SRT OF INDIA.sachins ist outing in pak he scored one 50 plus runs,ist tour in nz scored 88 in one much ist time in Eng he scored 119 IST TOUR in AUS 148 and 114 ist tour in sa scored 111 and 73 ist time SL 132 AND 71 IS TOUR IN WI scored 88 92 83.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

performance of indian cricket team outside home

Posted by Vivfan on (December 6, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

@Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist this article is commented by Cricket fans around the world not just Pakistani/SL fans.

Pakistani fans have the right to comment here, as they have defeated SA and won a series against them in their home soil. They have the right to comment here as India an undeserving No. 1 team. India are currently the worst Cricket team in the world when touring overseas.

Posted by Aussie56 on (December 6, 2013, 10:05 GMT)

India should show their might now.Inki Minki pretty funny performance from the indians last night Loved the way SA bowled to them

Posted by shane-oh on (December 6, 2013, 10:04 GMT)

How on earth is this Indian side "clearly undercooked"? They play near constant cricket, and lately have had a slew of matches against tough competition.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:03 GMT)

As batsman could not change movement for switch hit before ball released , bowler also should not take a pause before releasing the ball as R. Ashwin doing now a days, ICC should make even rules for both batsman and bowler.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

India's downfall has started. south africa then England in summer and then Australia all next year

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

I think India will come back in the series.. don't expect anything from Indian bowlers but once their batsman gets adjusted to the SA conditions, they can do wonders.. my money is on Kohli and Raina.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

Best captain of world again showed the confidence on his selection its just matter of change in conditions, and from my point of view team India will bounce back hard ...... WORRY TIME start for SA.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:45 GMT)

@saad.kiani Sir i guess I was not able to convey my point ... let me start again ... here we are debating the strength of the teams ... india the best batting line up 217 what the worst batting side Pak made in 1st ODI tooo their strength is bowling ,, now you tell it luck or whatever but pak beat them with their bowling... my point was what is the best batting line up doing thr ,, the pitch was not nightmare africans played they scored but the best batting looks like clue less And one more point these pakistan batsmen are not world class but India ????

Posted by sanathhs on (December 6, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

As Srilankan I think india will strongly come back in sprinner friendly Durban. I think they really miss irfan for allrounder position. also should include Umesh & Ishan for next game.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 6, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

@Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist ; Hey, I am waiting for another new rule from you. Here is a new one. Rule # 23 - Team India should be allowed to take a home flat pitch with 'em every time when they go on a tour. That will ensure the victory for ;em.

Posted by SohailMirza on (December 6, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

Thats the reason India always played more ODIs at home ground, they dont have technique , talent to play at international level . small grounds and flat tracks are the the only reason Kohli , dhwana, sharmi are hitting 100s otherwise they even can't play Bhatii bowling.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

india nmbr 7 team in s.a....

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 6, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

@Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist ; Your rank is high because you play 95% of your matches at home. You can call it an achievement, playing at home to climb up the ICC ranking table. lol But, see what happens when you hit the road. Your rank will be in bottom of the table by the end of this year coz there are many away series coming up. You guys simply can win only at home. You know it, I know it, so does everyone else.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

India rely too much on virat and shikhar dhawan, they need to find another consistent batsman. when they perform, india are almost unstoppable, but if they dont then india are a pleasure to play againat

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:32 GMT)

Indian team is not the best ,it is just in the rankings ,Australia England south Africa pakista are the best teams in world cricket,Indians are not great batters thoug they need to prove in oversee ,like abd ,Watson,amla,warner,umar akmal,are great ,Indians only play in make batting avrgs and tell they are great,icc should ban cricket in flat Indian tract ,this is the real fact Indian cricket fans ,u have accept this.

Posted by Kaballas on (December 6, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

It seems we did not watch the same game.

If you look at the number of play and misses then then Indian team could have been bowled out for 50 runs. Rohit was made to look like a school boy.

Posted by sajid742 on (December 6, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

@shyam857 Height of grudge. The same is true for SA tour of UAE. Pak lost very close matches like first one by one run.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 6, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

As I predicted, SA won the match by a massive margin of 141 runs. Actually, many people knew what would happen all along. The pitch offered a lot for bowlers but Indian (so called) bowlers couldn't extract a thing off that wicket. SA batsmen simply had a field day. Kumar, Shami n the whole unit turned out to be nothing but a big media hype. When it came to batting, oh god, Indian batsmen were all at sea against the pace n the bounce. Dhawan, Rohit, UV, Raina are all technically flawed batsmen. They simply can't play on fast wkts. But hey, Rohit fell only 182 runs short of what would have been his 2nd double ton. right ? :) There is no hope for India in any of the away tours. This ODI series will be 3-0 in SA favor. The test series 2-0 in SA favor. NZ tour will be another whitewash. No hope for WC 2015.India simply can't win matches outside of home. They need to recruit a new bunch and teach 'em how to play on pacy wkts. They need to take some drastic measures asap.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:24 GMT)

I don't know why someone can blame Rohit, what he did was absolutely right atleast I guess so...come in guys it's style who is facing him, and you got to respect styne for his first spell... especially when you have someone like dhawan and kohli who can score at will, your job is to anchor and that's what he did in past run chases.... don't know about others, but surely Rohit will impress me in tests, he will be the man to look forward in WC15... I am not a hardcore fan of his, infact I hated him for quite some time because if chances he got and wasted many of them, but he IS THE BATSMEN for long run.... and kohli , well he can score even on mars.... I am impressed with his 4 fours that he hit, it's amazing how he can adjust to any situation so quickly, and dhawan is the exact replica of sehwag, some exquisite shots and one harsh ridiculous shot and you are gone, if he wants to differ himself from sehwag he needs to restrict some shots.... atleast dhoni now try rahane at 4..

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

India need to improve their bowling.Best of Luck dhoni and team for the 2nd ODI

Posted by rezwan_83. on (December 6, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

I belive still there is no room for complacency from SA point of view.Because

1.On a pacer conducive track only Steyn and Morkel were able to keep the economy rate below 6/over. 2.SA bolwers bowled too many wide bowls & given away unnecceary extra runs. 3.Indian batsman showed their intent to paly aggeresively(Dhoni,Kholi) if they got momentum in the upcoming matches then it will be a worry for SA. I reckon if any three of Indian top order find their feet in this condition then they will take the game away from SA because of over dependency on Steyn/Morkel. 4.Ground fielding & catching(they dropped kholi,Dhoni) are below expectation. 5.Kalis and Parnel seemed out of touch.

So I think Send Miller and Decock to open & set Amla at 3 instead of Kalis and bring back Vernon.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

what happened in first match was expected, no surprise

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

indian batting always struggles against the pace...whether they r playing in india or elsewhere

Posted by crzcric on (December 6, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

The overrated team deserve it.way to go SA.make it 3-0.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:13 GMT)

Posted by shyam857 on (December 6, 2013, 8:49 GMT) i still feel its not paks brilliance that won the game but SA's sense less approach made it. Of course an UNBIASED view LOL.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Small Grounds and flat tracks that what this so called batting line up is about,

Posted by know_ur_game on (December 6, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

No point in criticizing the batsmen. It was very demoralizing for them from the bowlers and the batsmen knew that the pitch is heavily loaded in favor of the bowlers before facing the first ball. It was the bowlers who fail to exploit the juicy pitch. It is a clear case of bad team selection. Selectors must understand the conditions at the time of team selection, rather than picking all the members of a team just because they did well in India, they must adopt horses for courses. If the selectors are experts, as we believe, they must know that SA is a place for hit the deck bowlers. No point in playing Mohit & Bhuvi together, as both are similar and are flop with the old ball. What is point in selecting Amit Mishra, when there is no way he is going to get a game in the tour. The place should have given to an upcoming young fast bowler like Aron. But the selectors seems like more interested in playing a CSK 11

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

Congrats SA. A befitting reply to India.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

@CrICkeeet

What do you say now? Any words? Any more fake self proclaimed success stories? Yes SA bowlers are fast and furious and their batting is much superior than indian flat pitch batsmen. Stop dreaming and face the reality.

Posted by cricktwins on (December 6, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

@Indian fans.. Its not the end of the world.. Yes the pitch was fast and bouncy it will take time for the bowlers to understand what length to bowl.. shami,mohit,bhuvi- all 23 years of age. This is the first time they are playing in south africa. Conditions are very different from india. Indian batsmen too must adjust to the bouncy conditions. Dhoni rightly said its not 350 kind of a wicket.. Our bowling is weak we must find the right combination before 2015 Wcup..

@All the india haters.. Say anything u want like flat pitch batsmen, flat track bully etc.. Except the great australian side in the past decade.. No other team can perform consistently in foreign conditions.. Once indian team acclimitize to the conditions then u will see a different team..

I would like to acknowledge good performance.. Dale steyn bowled brilliantly what a bowler he is..

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:03 GMT)

I don't see any negatives from Indian batting, Rohit played 40+deliveries without much trouble, ofcourse he dint score, and some balls went past bat. but he made sure he learnt the pace and bounce of the SA pitches, Kohli as usual gets in there quickly, he score 4 stunning shots which even styne would be not disappointed watching those, so he is not a problem, Dhoni is class act anywhere, dhawan was good till that ridiculous shot first up, raina actually tackled with short pitch stuff cleverly but unfortunate runout, JADEJA and ashwin was good on eye, but can't depend in them.... only weak spot is UV..... if these guys made sure that they restrict themselves from playing some shots, that will be good....

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

India will be white washed in whole of the tour

Posted by sailorsupreme on (December 6, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

The Indian batting was clearly unprepared but they showed glimpses of adapting to the bounce and swing. Rohit spent a lot of time at the crease and should be better the next match. Dhawan will click. Kohli seemed to have adjusted faster than the others. The surprise came from Raina who handled the short ball well. They need to cut down on the shots and be more selective. Dhoni showed it can be done as did Jadeja and Ashwin. Yuvi was badly exposed, yet again It is not beyond India to level the series in the next game. As far as the bowling goes, Umesh has to come back in, in place of Bhuvneshwar. Ashwin and Jadeja will recover from this pasting and do well. The fielding was above average, though they dropped a few catches. The India baiters are are having a great time. But this young side has a trick or two up their sleeves and they will bounce back. Yuvi should be replaced by Rahane or Ambati Rayudu for the next game. But Dhoni will persist with him.

Posted by srinideva on (December 6, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

@siri12345 , I can understand your frustration on Indian team. Since your club class national team couldn`t beat us in Flat, Green and orange wickets lately. Please spare a thought on your associate level team. Ireland and afghan teams can beat SL if they tour into these countries. afterall BD doing better than SL..

Posted by vxttemp on (December 6, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

Rohit and Virat are okay. Virat being the main batsman should learn to leave more deliveries. Raina looked pathetic and his desire not to take strike resulted in 2 run-outs. With bat Dhoni, Jadeja and Aswin played better than I expected :-) But the way they played overall 2 - 0 in tests looming at India. I hope it is not 10 - 0 on trot in overseas. The biggest worry is of course India's bowling.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (December 6, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

Most of the comments here are laughable! One ODI and so much being made out of it. New surroundings and environment hence this is expected.. I'd rather then lose a couple of ODI's and get warmed up for the Test matches. Just wait and watch.

Posted by sailorsupreme on (December 6, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

The Indian batting was clearly out of depth but they showed glimpses of adapting to the bounce and swing. Rohit spent a lot of time at the crease and should be better the next match. Dhawan will click. Kohli seemed to have adjusted faster than the others. The surprise came from Raina who handled the short ball well. They need to cut down on the shots and be more selective. Dhoni showed it can be done as did Jadeja and Ashwin. Yuvi was badly exposed, yet again It is not beyond India to level the series in the next game. As far as the bowling goes, Umesh has to come back in, in place of Bhuvneshwar Ashwin and Jadeja will recover from this pasting and do well. The fielding was above average, though they dropped a few catches. The India baiters are are having a great time. But this young side has a trick or two up their sleeves and they will bounce back. Yuvi should be replaced by Ambati Rayudu for the next game.

Posted by zain29 on (December 6, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

I think people should stop comparing Indian & Pakistani batsmen, because both are found wanting when it comes to facing pace. Pakistani line-up more so then its Indian counterpart. My guess is that besides Virat and MSD to a lesser extent (Dhawan could be an improvement in the latter part of the tour), Raina, Sharma, Yuvraj etc., will have a tough time through out the tour. (wait till u guys get to Super Sport Park.....ask your neighbours abt the experience) !!!!!

Posted by shyam857 on (December 6, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

i read views that pak done good in SA, they lost 4 -1 in their own backyard to SA, atleast indians could win with out any effort in their own, and coming in SA pak won 2-1, bearing the 1st odi, 3rd odi which SA won easily and 2nd which won by pak cant be done on every day, i still feel its not paks briallance that won the game but SA's sense less approach made it

Posted by JustIPL on (December 6, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

Although indian bowling kept the familiar trend both home and away. the indian batting still needs seasoning away from home and in the next couple of games they will bounce back for sure. This series is not yet over but thanks god it is not a seven odi series for india. Loss here will not alter the rankings much due to short series so no worries for india.

Posted by GiridharGoutham on (December 6, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

I don't understand why cricket lovers get so exhausted when we lose a match .The batting conditions will change a lot when playing away from the home side. We can also say that other countries can't play outside their home ground (Like in India, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc.) . We have seen Australia and West Indies in India . Any team will have favorable conditions in their home side. It's not like India should win every match as they are the world Champions where ever they play. Give them some breathing time, So that they understand the techniques and strategies. Let's all hope there would be a good match on 8th .

Posted by sreehk on (December 6, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

So far not seen anything in cricket like the way Dale Steyn was bowling yesterday! Out swingers pitched on good length on off stump line at 145+ speed consistently for 30 deliveries in one-day cricket. What was most admirable from Steyn was despite his talent, caliber, and experience he did not try any other tricks. Just to show how good he is with that delivery, he challenged all the batsman as if he has told them what he is going to bowl and asking them 'see if you can play it'. As we have seen Rohit, the acclaimed Tendulkar replacement, took 22 deliveries to even make contact with the ball. Steyn has contributed to the beautiful game called Cricket!

Posted by jango_moh on (December 6, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

overreact much!!!! the wanderers pitch is one of the fastest and bounciest in the world(with the exception of perth), so anybody playing after playing in completely different conditions will struggle.... its synonymous to a rank turner in india!!! so i think the batsman are fine, pls they are young they will gain from this experience... its the bowlers who didnt bowl the right lengths, but i think they will also gain from this exp... dhoni has to change his mind about playing avg bowlers like mohit sharma... they're ok on indian pitches, but in SA we need umesh and hell even ishanth, he actually might do well here.... I think the indians will do better going forward!!! good wake up call, now lets do it!!!!!

Posted by IndianCracker on (December 6, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

It was as expected. With no practice match, it is very difficult to adjust in a very much opposite conditions. But SA did really very good.

Posted by Kaballas on (December 6, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

That was incredible to watch. Dale Steyn is unplayable. India have become bullies of late and SA have basically brought them back to earth. Take that BCCI.

Not sure why they are blaming conditions as SA managed 350+.....

Now we all know the real reason why this tour was shortened. Expect a similar drubbing on Sunday as there will be emotions involved due to the passing of a giant.

Posted by optimiser on (December 6, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

It really baffles me that few comments here bash Indian batting for not chasing the total down. I'm in no context supporting the likes of yuvraj,sharma, rohit(& others too) but the point to be noted here is that had the target been anywhere between 250-280 this game would have been a close encounter because the South African bowlers gave nothing away and the likes of steyn & morkel bowled their hearts out as if the target was 200. A total of 360 against south african cannot be chased by any team even in any flat conditions let alone the bouncy & seaming wanderers pitch. The main problem for India is their bowling. It has let down India by far & its going to be an uphill task as we dont have any talented bunch in the benches either. Its really funny that some people think that umesh or Ishant would have made a difference.Same guys would have bashed the selection team for picking them because the total would have been more or less the same with them

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

dravid sachin plastic-u still believe the rankings ???pak fans hav full right to comment here because they just won a series against same opposition in same conditions just 1 week back.waanna get some knoledge about how to beat sa u can consult them n i am sure they will help u.n ur team coz they know wat it takes to win here.cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

I don't think there is any Test cricket playing team who can confidently say they are world beaters, they usually perform well in their backyards or pitch which suits them, so on any given day anyone can beat any team if the conditions suit them...not a fair game then eh?

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

dravid sachin plastic-u still believe the rankings ???pak fans hav full right to comment here because they just won a series against same opposition in same conditions just 1 week back.waanna get some knoledge about how to beat sa u can consult them n i am sure they will help u.n ur team coz they know wat it takes to win here.cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by KunzMan on (December 6, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

@Syed Shahzeb Hassan The only thing India can learn from Pakistan is what all to do so that you lose the chance to not play in home ground :p

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

rsa will win the series both odi and test

Posted by DilbertZA on (December 6, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

It is not unusual for teams to go into the first match of a series underprepared, it happened to SA recently in the UAE with the first test. For that reason, more matches makes sense between strong teams. I thought India batted well, if they had two or three more wickets in hand, it could have been close. Steyn was awesome, almost too good to find the edge. He got extreme movement in his first spell, no batsmen would handle bowling like that well. Morkel and McLaren were good, but the other bowlers were below par, and will be thrashed if they bowl that badly again. Conditions will be different for the next game, and India's batsmen will know what to expect.

Posted by sam111944 on (December 6, 2013, 8:31 GMT)

Yes, South Africa win. Next stop series victory. Go Proteas

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

india can win matches in india on a strong batting line up but it will be hard for them to even compete against quality teams on bouncy and fast tracks , they need fast bowler who can bowl quick and exploit the pitch . bowling a mere 120 ks wont help u win matches. this is just the odi let see what the red cherry magic do to them. styn and phillander will rip throught this batting side considering there limitation to short and seam bowling . clean sweep in test and may be a win in just one odi .

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

harmony 111 thinks that ind gets better and better once the series moves on and after getting acclimatized they will beat sa in left hand.lol and he has given last tour ex how ind beat sa in 2nd test and drew third test.let me give u another ex guys.once upon a time ind toured eng.after wiinning the wc in typical home flat track with lots of dew on the wicket and against a 2nd string lankan side who was without angelo matthews.once ind tour of eng started ,zaheer was injured the first test and ind lost by a huge innnings defeat and then everybody thought they will get acclimatized and perform better once series progresses.then started the 2nd test n ind infact acclimatized better n had eng for 120 for 8 in 1st innings but later on went to loose the test by 350+ runs.then came 3rd test -same result,4th test-same result ,odi series-same result.

Posted by amilag on (December 6, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

SA is not the best ODI team. It is quite evident from their recent tour against pakistan, sri lanka etc. This big defeat shows how pathetic is Indian team is now. They can win only match played in small grounds and flat tracks like highways in India.

One more thing is also evident from this tour. The flaws in ICC rankings! How can a team like India (when ever they go outside the country, they are being white washed) be in the top of the ranking.....

Posted by Fan1969 on (December 6, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

I am surprised people are crucifying the Indian batting. Except Yuvraj who looks out of sorts I thought they were doing fine. Yuvi must go.

Dhawan and Kohli were forced to play shots early because the score to chase was 359 and not 300. Rohit did not want to lose a wicket to Steyn and thus was defensive initially.

But for the two run outs, India may well have got to 300. Jadeja, Raina and Ashwin played good shots and the ever reliable Dhoni was fighting till the end.

Indian problem is the pathetic pace attack, except Shami. Even Kallis at 38 bowls better than Bhuvi / Mohit. Dhoni hesitates to include 4 pacemen and leave Ashwin / Jadeja out because Ishant / Umesh also leak runs with inaccurate bowling with full tosses and half trackers thrown in every over.

Even Kallis, Amla were beaten by Shami so new ball will cause problems in SA. Just because India won 2 matches chasing 350 it still remains the EXCEPTION rather than the RULE. India badly needs two pacers.

Posted by Hunters77 on (December 6, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Really dissapointed by the Indian display their bowlers are just not performing. They have developed this attitude oh its ok for our bowlers to concede 300+ runs we have the batsmen for that. Why is there no experienced men in this bowling attack Zaheer Khan or even Ishant Sharma? Yes it is important to develop the young talent but even they need guidence. This is the first time that i have seen an Indian team without specialist spinners. No team in the world will fear our bowling attack the state it is in, apart from Mohammad Shami the Indian pace attack seems toothless selectors need to shake things up. Please drop Yuvraj he serves no purpose in the team....

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Posted by AsifRana on (December 6, 2013, 7:55 GMT) India do not deserve the world cup. I agree, but they still are current world champs. so get over it.on & off we do perform well but we are not world beater either.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

This is a trademark performance of Team India !!!!!!!! This is what they usually do when they tour abroad. Taking nothing away from their batting powerhouse I must say all of the Indian Batsman are Flat Tracks Bullies especially the tracks especially designed for them in India. ANyone would easily guess why India try to play most of their cricket in their Backyard becuase they actually dont have in them to face the likes of Morne, Steyn, Broad, Johnson and even Irfan in the Bowling Friendly Conditions. Virat Kohli is till sheer class and he would excel in the coming matches but they way Rohit, Dhawan and Raina batted against the fast bowlers something must be fed in their ears to be brave and face the sweet tune music manfully. More, there has been nothing in Indian Bowling for decades to talk about the pathetic under-performing medium fast bowers.

Posted by Shazli on (December 6, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

so called indian talented batsman now blaming no practice match before series....they answer first what about in AUS and Eng where u went well before time and playing lot of practice matches and result remain same 5-0, 3-0 huh Indian team should learn from Pakistan atleast...Pakistan have playing their home series out side their country but they manage and lot of respect in cricketing eara.... cause they performed every where.......

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:19 GMT)

too early to say what will happen. Indian team should had got a practice match. It is never easy to adjust to Alien conditions right away. Comparing the Pakistani bowling attack and giving example how good they were is pointless. For sure Pakistani bowling attack is better than Indian bowling attack. India always had hard time finding good bowlers. However that being said Indian bowlers also need team to adjust. I think they should have played Umes Yadav instead of Mohit. Umesh is a strike bowler. Furthermore criticizing Indian batting line up is not fair, I think they played really well considering it was their first match and they reach 200+ on swinging wicket. It is just SA put a huge total. I am sure if Indian batsmen and bowlers adopt quickly then they can win but this is a short series and that is why I hate short series, it is not enough time for teams to adjust to conditions.

Posted by Basil777 on (December 6, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

This what happens SA drops Smith ; we are more solid upfront and the middle order can to the business. India cant handle accurate pace bowling and I believe that PAK have a better and well organised bowling attack that can test SA batsman.

India have some work to do with their bowling.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

@pirate kaptan you are conveniently ignoring hafeez's cabaret against steyn. and rest of our batsmen are very ordinary barring Misbah (who can occasionally score fifties but will never be able to win a match for pakistan purely due to his batting). don't you see every time pakistan bats we have one or two bowlers in top 3 scorers for pakistan? I am a Pakistani & proud of our bowlers. i love to see Pak winning but i am always in exquisite agony when our jokers are batting. So before blaming other's we should realize where we stand because it will save us from further humiliation.

Posted by kapsitash on (December 6, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

@siri12345 u seems to be an srilankan fan, i think u should mind ur own country's cricket coz u dont even qualify to speak anything about indian cricket, u guys hav been battered and bashed repeatedly agianst india

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 6, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

Today I completely understood the reason why SA bowlers couldn't win any major tournaments consistently. Their fast bowlers get such grass bowls to bowl on and so when they travel overseas, they are clueless and become cannon fodder. Just wait for the little acclimatization to take place for this Team India. Safas will be put in their place. It was Dhoni's whatever dealings he has with BCCI, that he isn't talking against improper scheduling. Good on him though, that he doesn't want to look at it and is in fact criticizing hard against his bowlers. I'm glad he has spotted the problem with our bowlers. Now please drop that short-haired short Sharma and bring in Umesh. It's not always about CSK players and pushing the undeserving players into our team - Raina and this Mohit Sharma bowler.

Posted by Qasim8372007 on (December 6, 2013, 8:10 GMT)

I think team India lack batting technique. All batsmen look to play strokes that are acceptable on dead track. India needs Pujara here in ODIs, who is technically best Indian batsmen at the moment. I noted yesterday that Yuvi even can't see bowl at pace. His reflexes shows fear from ball. All Indian batsmen were fearing from pace and bounce and remembering their school days cricket and wished to go home as soon as possible.Yuvi padded every single accessory available in his kit. :-) While R. Sharma is good at home but is horrible outside of India. I always believe that he is middle order batsman, not the opener. Champions trophy is ICC event, so ICC made flat tracks to make event entertaining while Indians are really poor outside their backyard (street). Pakistan did well to beat SA in SA recently. Due to the fact India's batting will expose, Indian board deliberately truncated this series to avoid shame on their fake no. 1 position. India is like Bangladesh team outside their street.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:09 GMT)

let us take few positive from previous Odi ... Dhoni's knock ,raina playing short ball well n kholi's few good strokes against moving ball,dhawan's timing. The same team did well in tough conditions in england. One bad match.. Give break for bhuvi n drop mohit sharma n brinng bacl umesh n Ishant. I bet Ishant will rule in this series if he is given a chance.. O belive that we can make 1-1 all .. Come on Guys...

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 8:06 GMT)

Some of these excuses from Indian supporters are getting pathetic, before the game they were saying Indian just need to pitch up and how terrible the Proteas are. Then all of a sudden when they lose the excuses come out.

Especially GRVJPR who is off the chart at being ridiculous

Posted by Shajahan.P on (December 6, 2013, 8:05 GMT)

If anybody blaming India bowling is poor, then we have to think, are Shami, Bhuvi, M.Sharma equal to Steyn, Morkal, Tsotsobe!

While Amla, De Kock, ABD, Duminy could demolish indian bowling, whey Rohit, Kohli, Yuvaraj, Raina can not even touch 30+ runs!

Srinivasan and Dhoni' co planned well and reduced 5 ODI to 3, and 4 Tests to 2.

We can do one thing, Ask Srinivasan to treat with SA Cricket board and can ask him to prepare pitches like in India.

Posted by Shazli on (December 6, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

well well....now it has proven India have B Class team who can only bat on flat pitches which only produced by BCCI for their teams where the same team made & Chase 350 easily....now look the reality the same team no able to touch belly high ball.... Kholi , Dhoni, Roahit all Indian local hero's miss hit or hit on chest , broken thump and we listen indians oh ha oh..... hehehe very funny i really enjoyed cause They r lion of home but outside, they are just wall of Mud...........

Posted by Hindh on (December 6, 2013, 8:03 GMT)

SA can only win on such doctored pitches and WC 2015 in Aus the pitches wud either be flat with little bounce or take spin and these tactics wont work for SA there..

Posted by BounceTrack_BULLY on (December 6, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

Considering the SA conditions,without any practice matches, Indian batsman showed some resistance. But they need to build partnerships and aim scoring big runs.

Posted by CricketFever11 on (December 6, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

There were so many Indian fans commenting here before the tournament. When there is a tournament in Indian wickets, lots of Indian fans comes out and comment. Specially, sort of insulting comments on other teams. But when they are get hammered, only a few come out. Obvious difference between Indian fans and fans who support other countries. Mind you, win or loose, we are with our team. There is no other funny thing to see in the cricketing world than this flat track world champions get hammered as school U15 team. India do not deserve the world cup. Cricinfo, pls publish.

Posted by ChrisMarx on (December 6, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

Well done Proteas! Too soon to say which way this series will go however. SA has the edge at the moment but one bad match is not enough to worry the Indian players yet. The wicket was a beaut, offering plenty for both the batsmen and bowlers but the next one is bound to be a slower and more timid specimen which will suit the Indian side a lot better. India won't get a game closer to their home conditions than that on tour - slow pitches, Indian fans packing the stands etc - so I think they will take the next one. If they can't manage that however, well, then this tour will be a long and humbling affair for them.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 6, 2013, 7:53 GMT)

wow wow, this board is completely spammed by sri lanja and Pakistan blokes. don't they even feel embarrassed to comment on India when their own teams are way below in all the possible rankings given in cricket? Not all their fans but many fans from those two countries are embarrassing themselves by posting over here.

Posted by ICCexpert.... on (December 6, 2013, 7:53 GMT)

This show the real talent of so called talented batting line up of India. And also shows the class of Pakistan bowlers who allowed the South African score 250 runs only in one out of 8 matches they played last month. Indian bowlers come and gift them 350+ runs. hahahaha........... BCCI should ban the team from playing in Australia, South Africa, England and New-Zealand.

Posted by Khan_G8 on (December 6, 2013, 7:52 GMT)

Dear Indian friends... its not a mater of inclusion of two indian spinners in the side nor their batmen poor performance. One think has to be understood that generally matches won by bowling and specially fast bowling. Take the example of Pakistani side who defeated the same SA side. Why because they have good bunch of bowlers(Fast+spinners). The Pakistani spinners played a key role in their vicotires over SA in SA depite the fast bowling conditions and tracks. The probelm with indina side is only the quality of bowling fast and spin. They are international level wicket taking bowlers. I am great admirer of Dhoni. He brave captain and batsman as he showed in the previous match. SOme indina fans criticises him of being calm while his bowlers weregetting ounishment. See a captian can teach bowling while batsman is beating him.... maximum he could do is to advise him to bowl according to field or support him. Whihc he did..... see he is not fast bowler either so he can not tell them

Posted by rockersz2z on (December 6, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

NO doubt india will lose all tour to SA.I don't like to see india in No.1 rank any more. In 1 or 2 years they'ill only play in india and ipl. All other cricketing nation should down india and their power.

finally i really worry about worse teams are in No.1 spot.need some changes in icc rankings any team can win in home and became as no.1 its not fair and not healthy to cricket ranking. In my opinion india never going to win any matches or tour away from home

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 6, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

With Test players also there, Is India allowed to change their ODI team? Pujara needs to be in the ODI team. The bowlers - Bhuvi and Mohit are too slow and will only be effective in India not overseas. Zaks as a leftie and a senior should come in. India should concentrate on their bowling lineup - rather go in with Yadav, Shami and Zaks. The two spinners are a waste when you have some part timers. So choose one from Jadeja and Ashwin. The batting needs some time but with Pujara coming in.

Posted by Shajahan.P on (December 6, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

@coldcofee123: it shows simply bcz you are Rohit fan. This is not test matches to leave all the good deliveries. We had to chase 6.6 Runs per over. You have to adjust and play the ball. Rohit had 50% of swing and miss, Steyn shouted him to play on the bat, commentators said he batted like tail enders. But you are saying Rohit did right. He can bat only death indian pitches and against some spinners. He could not do much against international bowlers like Rampaul, Steyn, Johnson, etc... Also if anyone blaming Raina for Rohit's Run out, then you are absolutely have no cricket knowledge. Think, Rohit was the Runner and he had to hurry himself to reach the crease. A simple dive would have saved him (even the Fielder dived to run him out). He is always lazy to run between the wicket. Rohit is waste to be in international 11.

Posted by Fan1969 on (December 6, 2013, 7:49 GMT)

I just want to rewind a month back. Shami did not get the Man of Match after Kolkatta test though he got 9 wickets (only the 7th occasion in history for an Indian pacer to get 9 wickets at home). Rohit got all the awards. I cried hoarse repeatedly.

This is Indian psyche problem, we praise batsmen centuries so much that all kids want to be just batsmen. Few who continue to bowl, work very hard and are routinely given batsmen friendly pitches to bowl on. With no encouragement they start bowling defensively or try to get tail end wickets to shore up figures, because only STATS matter. Who wants to bowl to top batsmen when they are in flow on flat pitches?

Then we produce Ok swing bowlers at 125 kmph who can get some ordinary batsmen but not the best repeatedly. Prabhakar, Prasad, Praveen and now Bhuvi come to mind.

A lone Shami, Srinath, Zaheer, Kapil can never build pressure. Batsmen cannot win with such rubbish bowling. India is lucky to have exceptional batsmen winning some ODIs

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:47 GMT)

too much is being made out of this it happens to all the teams on tour in alien conditions .they might lose the next one also but to write about them as this is iresponsible letus wait and watch till the end of the series then come to conclusions

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 7:46 GMT)

hats off to boyntonbeach...where were you buddy...you are a true optimistic and rather see half glass full as full jug...I am seriously impressed from your comments. .I never make much comments myself but your optimistic attitude made me write while even I m tired and heading home in train here in Melbourne. cheers

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:39 GMT)

india learn from pakistan...thay have no home ground cricket....but they r still the best team of the world who cares for ICC the indian cricket council

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 6, 2013, 7:37 GMT)

@Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist :Not long ago you are claiming a white wash against SA..I replied that no other Asian team has done it before except Pak..India could not do it in past 21 years..How they'l do it this time.But now here you are coming up with an excuse..India had 2nd choice team?Hahaha...Why would India do anything like that..Fans were claiming that even India's 2nd choice team is far better than Pakistan.Now suddenly what happened to the 2nd choice team? I hope in next match India go with 1st choice team so that people never get any chance for more excuses

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:37 GMT)

First thing first -- We were outplayed by SA yesterday. Accept that, move ON!

Our bowlers are pathetic. If you can't bowl well in conditions that suit you, there is definitely something wrong with you. You don't always need express pace 145+ to trouble the batsmen or do well, 135+ with right areas do yield results. When you have Umesh in your squad in SA, he has to be there in playing XI. Ishant with his height might (big might) be much more effective than Mohit/Bhuvi.

Batting -- Was a disaster. What Rohit did was absolutely unacceptable. You can't just leave 16 balls in a row to see of a bowler. That not only hurts ur confidence, but also dents the confidence and flow of the non-striker. Yuvraj is a selection purely based on emotional ground.Drop him. For god's sake give Rahane/Rayudu a chance and put Raina on notice. Only Kohli looked somewhat comfortable against the quality attack. MSD is an ODI legend.

Having said that, I will still support team India.

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 7:36 GMT)

@ A. Jussavala, Rohit did the right thing leavimg the first 16 or so deliveries; Tendulkar would have done the same considering the pitch, the bowler, wisdom of keeping wickets in hand chasing a big total. It would only tale 6 balls later to make up for the loat 16 deliveries. Sehwag would have clobbered one for six and then fell to the next in the slips. Steyn was relentlessly accurate in line and length with three slips. Yours is an emotional outburst; read rhe game.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 7:36 GMT)

India always looses your openers as far as I can recall. One match does say a hell lot. India is a batting powerhouse bowling is has not been their strenght even in India. give batsmen some time they will bounce back.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:32 GMT)

The lion of home but outside, they are just wall of Mud...........

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 7:31 GMT)

dravid gravitas plastic and grv jpr -steyn n co have to be prepared to be smashed all around the park by this young talented indian team.some more predictions mate .eagerly waiting lol.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:29 GMT)

i thinks its hard time to prove India themselves as a world's number one batsman as well as outside India ...its not gonna be too easy in front of world class bowlers...at least they should be strong in their believing batting department like wise recent tour of Pak in SA...PAK win series just by there strong believing bowler...but keep in mind PAK is the first Asian team to beat SA in home...so india would never find such a movement/chance to beat coz they are no 1 team in the world

Posted by siddhartha87 on (December 6, 2013, 7:29 GMT)

India must improve it's bowling.period.They can't expect their batsman to chase 350 everytime .Specially in these bouncy wickets.Why is Mohit Sharma is in playing XI? He got battered by Indies even back in India. Indian selectors should stop cuddling with CSK players and should give chance to some faster better bowlers.

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 7:29 GMT)

indian fans thought that by reducing the series they may be able to pull off a fluke win here n there n win the series luckily like they hav been doing last 1 year under dhoni,s captaincy(like two worst balls of ct giving ind two wickets) but wat it has done is it has questioned rank of ind even in subcontinent.because just a week be4 pak won the series in sa so if ind loose this series it means that this will be the standings of the subcontinent teams .1-sl (considering how we will whitewash pak 5-0 n 3-0 in uae)2-pak coz they fared better than ind in same conditions against same attack3-ind 4-bd (thought the difference between 3 n 4 is not huge)it can only be known once 3 vs 4 plays a series in this type of wicket.cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by boyntonbeach on (December 6, 2013, 7:28 GMT)

Having not watched SA cricket for some time now - all I can say is WOW!

These are new conditions for the Indians and the Wanderers is like playing at Perth - a totally different surface that is alien to most Indian cricketers. Don't write them off yet. They landed in SA a couple of days ago and didn't even get a practice match in.

I was actually impressed with Rohit - he gave Steyn the respect deserved and was starting to get going when he was run out by Raina. His strike rate doesn't reflect that. Dhawan looked good for the short time he was at the crease.

Yuvraj seems sadly past his prime -- has been looking very under confident, perhaps needs a break. Actually Jadeja and Ashwin batted quite impressively. And Dhoni's never give up attitude was inspiring to watch. Kohli's silly arrogance is disappointing but lets not forget that he's still a kid (23?).

The Indians will leave SA a far stronger side so this series is going to do good for them

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 6, 2013, 7:27 GMT)

I am an Indian and No excuses for this defeat..team is totally underprepared for the tour....i would blame the BCCI for this schedule...this was the most expected tour in this year and we got hammered because of poor planning and scheduling...Ind team should have been in SA atleast two weeks prior the onedays...But they are so concerned about Sachin's departure I think they deliberately arranged the WI tour inbetween SA tour just so that Sachin could retire at home...(No offense to Sachin)....I bet the players would not even prepared for the SA tour since they won against the weak WI team and got complacent...

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 7:26 GMT)

poor india. talking a lot but cannot do anything.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 7:25 GMT)

india will lose 3-0 guarantee. and test 2-0. batting is ok ok. but bowling is weak. steyn will destroy them

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 7:24 GMT)

harmony 111 - u wrote in one of ur comments that all batsman looked okk n if those two run outs wuldnot hav taken place game would hav been close lolmao.u also wrote that virat looked very good for his short innings.my opinion is virat was dropped off a dolly by decock,not given a sure nick by the umpire and then edged to the slip after scoring 31 runs.so if u see technically virat was 31 for 3 in his short stay and if u call it a good innings god help team india.note-on the same ground ,same conditions weak pak attack scored 307 runs last year including a 48 ball 88 from afridi .cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 7:20 GMT)

India Bowling is always a concern at the same time batting is full of flaws when outside of India. They need to learn from mistakes...

Posted by siri12345 on (December 6, 2013, 7:19 GMT)

pak just won a bilateral series against sa just 1 week back.on the other hand the self proclaimed number 1 team got huge thrashing in the first odi.and plz guys dont give excuses like this is just the first game ,we were not prepared,we didnt hav practice game .its ur bully,s bcci fault that they hav not arranged the tour properly.infact bcci got a taste of their own medicine.had it been a 7 match odi series ind would hav lost the series but it would hav been assumed that winning against sa in their backyard is an impossible task.but wat bcci,s arrogancy has done here is that sa to recover some of theirs money arranged a 3 match odi series against pak and pak infact shocking the whole world won that series with ease.and 1 week ago ind against the same opponent r on the verge of a series loss.so does this means that leave alone the whole world ind r not even the best subcontinent team in odi now??????yup if they dont win this series they r not.cricinfo plz publish.

Posted by KunzMan on (December 6, 2013, 7:19 GMT)

Well played Proteas! Expecting India to improve batting atleast in the remainder of the series!

Having said that, sad day owing to demise of the great man Mr. Mandela. May we be able to live by the standards he set. May lord take care of his humble soul and may you rest in peace. Thoughts with all the South Africans...

Posted by Maloog on (December 6, 2013, 7:11 GMT)

Lets face it. These Indians might be world-beaters in India, but they struggle on tour and show no guts. Don't they know they representing their country. Honestly, on this display, none of their bolwers would make the starting line-ups in South Africa's provincial teams. Average team all round. Number 1 in the world??? I hope they prove me wrong.

Posted by U.A.1985 on (December 6, 2013, 7:11 GMT)

Lot of people comparing CT here with SA tour. People tend to forget that Champions Trophy was a World Event thus administrators were more interested to ensure entertainment and consequently make flat PITCHES. Here scenario is different because south africa is incharge of ensuring balance betweem bat n ball

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 7:06 GMT)

South Africa outplayed India in Batting,bowling and fielding..... bowling has always been a headache for India especially death overs :( ....i dont know in which millennium they will rectify it :( ...Indian batsmen had no clues about the bounce provided by wanderers whereas south african batsmen were on song...rohit's lazy elegance wont work in these conditions got toyed by Steyn..the only way to get Virat Kohli out is to bowl in the corridor of uncertainity consistently and he will nick one to slip..dhawan played a premeditated shot,yuvraj is having a hell of a time...Raina and Jadeja are superb batsmen yielding unimpressive results ....dhoni again proves that he is a warrior and an ODI batting legend..i wont be surprised if ishant or umesh or both gets added in the 2nd ODI they might come in handy in these conditions..i hugely expect India to come back strongly in the 2nd ODI...let this first ODI be a warm up/getting used to SA conditions..awaiting for a better performance on dec 8th

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 7:04 GMT)

@Greatest_Game:

In your comment at (December 6, 2013, 1:40 GMT), you have shown that you really have no idea about this game. In the past I have tackled you on stats and have shown how you have a feeble grasp over stats and today you have shown that forget stats, you are not in tune with the basic things of the game.

Acclimatization is not about increasing bowling speed or gaining the ability to turn the ball. It is about getting in a state where the combination of the mind and the body of the player is at its maxima. It is just one or two steps short of getting into the zone.

SA players are playing at home & have been at home for many many days after coming back. India have just landed. First the bowling is really inexp & then the batsmen were chasing 358. Once they are acclimatized, a peak Indian team will defeat the SA with their proverbial left hand.

Want Proof?

2010 Series: India lost Test 1 by an innings, won the next one, barely missed winning the 3rd one.

Posted by Protears on (December 6, 2013, 7:01 GMT)

Great result but not a completely convincing performance, I thought the bowling was a bit off yesterday with the exception of Morkel and Steyn. I would like to see Philander come in along with Tahir for Parnell and Tsotsobe who were pretty shocking yesterday on conditions that were good for seamers.

For India it was a bit of a rude awakening, and the excuse that pitches are suited is not going to fly either, its the same for both bowling and batting line ups, as in my previous post a few days back, SA pitches are fair and its how you execute that determines whether you win or lose.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:56 GMT)

I think the major problem is the schedule, A team has to suddenly face the bouncy and juicy track and most importantly without any match practice. When the SA or AUS team come to india they at least have 2-3 Test, 3day matches before the international schedule. If you remember the IPL played in SA same thing happened initial matches were pretty low scoring till the batsman get used to the pace and bounce of the wickets.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:56 GMT)

'...it took them 16 balls to even touch a Dale Steyn delivery.' Nice.

Talent Sharma and the young turks are truly the next generation of team BCCI stars. Much like the previous one.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 6:54 GMT)

@Albert_cambell:

---"@Harmony111. well said mate. Its too much to ask them to chase at 7 an over in a bouncy wicket. We should have provided them a flat track. "---

Ha Ha, who else can do it even on a flat track? Pak are not able to do that. Forget 350, Pak find chasing even 220 really difficult. SA too can't do the same. The CT13 had supposedly India like wickets and when India scored 334 against them, they were not able to chase it against nearly the same attack (that had Ishant Sharma, Phew).

It is not a sin to be able to chase 350 even on flat tracks? What do you think Indian batsmen should do when given that target? Should they say that this is a flat track so we won't bat well?

India bat better than any other team and people expect us to raise the level even higher each time and all the time but they forget their own low levels.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:53 GMT)

What happened to the strong batting side, A week before same team was beaten by Pak badly. I was expecting close matches but after watching yesterdays game,'indian batters were lose in confidence from ball one and they even not tried to chase the target' Indian batters and bowlers all need to raise their game, otherwise results will be same.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

Why does everyone go into a flat spin when a team loses one game?? Sure, SA played better than India yesterday. There are NO teams who win every game they play. The Indian team is full of talent and they have a good chance of winning any game they play. Losing one game doesn't mean you suddenly start shouting about dropping players. So much drama, guys. I'm an SA fan, and I live in Durban. The Durban game will be a home game for India (trust me), so I hope for a good game, but i predict India will win.

Posted by DEV_ME on (December 6, 2013, 6:48 GMT)

Ahh ! Finally ! The Indian team is laid bare open by the incisive bowling and batting of SA ! Pray tell me - what is the role being played by Rohit, Mohit, Raina, Yuvraj - in this team ? Dhoni's blue eyed boys got the rough end last night, from here they can only improve for there is no more room at the bottom to deteriorate further; while talents like Rahane sit out on the bench .......

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:47 GMT)

India got whitewashed in England and Australia. then lost series in home ground against England. when India face quality bowling India could not survive. Australia lost one day in India coz they dont bring harris, pattinson, starc, peter siddle and many more bowlers. thats why india chase down 300+. even Bangladeshi bowler can restrict them within 300 runs. India are useless in Westindies, Australiya, Newzeland, England , Southafrica, zimbabwe, pakistan etc. their batsman can score only in India and may be in BD. their bowling is less than BD. Pak defeat sa in their country. SA cant score over 250+ against pakistan.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:43 GMT)

admit it ,india play only a single series against most low rank Zimbabwe,,look this is not and few matches for champion trophy that's it...never play a big series away from country like 7odi's.... might be india are going to lose this series one...hope for best india

Posted by shyam857 on (December 6, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

As expected its no suprise that we indians got thrashed yesterday, however there are postives like how we played their world class bowling, i bet no team could have produced better result than wat indians did with their bat, their bowling was simply world classed,we are out played by their, and postives were the way we batted, dawan throwed his wicket rather bowler taking it, rohit and raina unfortuante, kohli superb bowl no issues could get every odd day,yuvi certainly out of form ,could see the same from his approach,his looks suggest that he is never gone be same yuvi he iss..dhoni showed that he is ready for the challenge,so thats summus up,thats actually a 250 to 270 track and we could have chased it easily if our bolwing is atleast medicore reducing them to 270,but its worst. it might be diffuclt for pak or SL to chase 250 atleast on that tract not certainly for indians.as i always dhonis captency ,all he is doing is preparing a team for WC.

Posted by sanman12 on (December 6, 2013, 6:41 GMT)

shame. Chasing 350 in india was easy. Batsman all cock a hoop on flat tracks where the balls all sit up waiting to be hit and small boundries leads to high score. A little more bounce and the dynamics of the games changes. SA should set all grass green strips and unlease stein and co and set these indian batsman straight. Takes a man to bat on SA wickets. With balls throat high. Pakistan won by virtue of them being better bowlers. Even on their last tour to SA the went down 3-2 so I was not surprised at a 2-1 win by them. India with their weak bowling would not match SA on their home conditions and on Sa wickets SA batsman are better than indian batsman. No arguments please just look at indian batsman records in SA. and at the moment SA has one trump cards india dont. One called stein who is simply on fire. 17 wickets in last 4 matches at 7 apiece. says it all. And after yesterday it does not look like its going to change much with him

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 6, 2013, 6:40 GMT)

@ CRIC_FAN94 responded to Shiraz Ahmed Siddiqui comment about the "short boundaries at the Wanderers, which of course does NOT have short boundaries: "Short boundaries? wanderers is very small ground compared to any ground in india.Have you seen the match?"

CRIC_FAN - maybe he was watching the NZ vs WI test at Dunedin? Had to be watching something else, or not watching at all.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:36 GMT)

@ Saad Kiani sir the only functional department of pakistan is one of the top in the business . in SA the tracks are not friendly for batters but they are not nightmares also. you have to use the ball perfectly you can trash any batting line up . And bat on merit not like Asian tracks through your bat on every ball.. see how was rohit clue less other night ????

Posted by Pras4S on (December 6, 2013, 6:36 GMT)

The most overrated batting line up in the history of the game!! Even Harbhajan and Ashwin have two test centuries each at home playing conditions!! Rohit Sharma n Sehwag scored one day double centuries at home and failed/going to fail massively abroad. The runs and averages of India batsmen should be normalized taking into account the docile pitches they play on. Crazy Indian fans should follow the performance of their team abroad because that what reflects the true calibre of a player.

Posted by Neutralist01 on (December 6, 2013, 6:35 GMT)

I thought this Indian batting lineup was the best thing since sliced bread? Even the 'grand' Virat Kohli was given a second life- and could not capitalize. The pitch was good for batting and offering movement for the bowlers, yet the Indians failed in both departments, and embarrassingly so,or the n01 ODI team. It's a pity SA are offering them a pitch that is similar to those found in India(Durban) -Great move by the BCCI to avoid playing at Newlands the entire tour-otherwise the result of this tour would be a whitewash, without much doubt.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:32 GMT)

India team is king of home land. They can't play on fast pitches. South africa bowling is so strong to play This is test for kohli and rohit sharma to play and score century .

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 6, 2013, 6:31 GMT)

Forgot to wish SA for their victory in my last comment...well played SA and thanks for waking our team after a long sleep i would say...Expecting a close contest atleast in next two matches....Umesh should be included in bowling...Ashwin is proving to be another passenger in this team its high time we look for another spinner as well...

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

well well well . Thats why they were afraid to come out of their Cave :D.. They know they can never won outside india never ever . India cant buy every match. BCCI did whatever it can did to avoid indians club criket team to play outside india but how long you will stay at home you will have to face the world and answers to your indian fans about your true face that you are hiding in your backyard :D :D best wishes to South Africa beat India hardly so these cowards ran back to their home where they can only buy or win a match :D

Posted by satanswish on (December 6, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

So 350+ scores can be scored on lively hard pitches as well only difference being flat track bullies cannot score/chase such scores like they do on home dead flat wickets. Good show Proteas!!

Posted by riz309 on (December 6, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

SA play hostile cricket and put the opposition under pressure with their hostility they did that to AUS,SL,NZ and PAK in test and now IND in ODI which was expected iam sure Indian batting power will wake up in the next match SA played very well in every spare of the game IND will bounce back from (Pak fan)

Posted by Zaheerahmed on (December 6, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

Embarrassing no matter what excuses Indians come out with. Rohit Sharma made look Hafeez a much better batsman. At least Hafeez was able to edge a few deliveries of Steyn. Indians were better off playing Kiwis or Windies at home. I wonder BCCI still have cheeks to ask for more money to provide this kind of entertaining cricket.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

" The ball didn't grip and the pitch didn't slow down " that statement by Sidharth Monga sums up things very well for India.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:28 GMT)

Posted by Tolaha on (December 6, 2013, 6:03 GMT) yeah, it's not some lowly Pakistanis or Lankans that we are facing.

Really ? don't tell me you mean this. i don't see the point as to why some pakistani fans are suddenly jumping all over. but as you people are on a high pedestal now as compared to "minnow pak & Lanka", when you fall you will be more humiliated as people have more expectations.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 6, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

@Shan156 Its not advisable to keep basing your success on home series wins. Keep living in denial if you still think India doesn't need better quick bowlers and the pitches need to be more competitive in India.

I and many other SA fans follow Test cricket more closely than ODIs. I believe in India its the opposite. I am really not bothered we are ranked 5th, but what gives me much joy is how easily we can beat the No.1 team when they are not playing in their home conditions.

Posted by x_lnc on (December 6, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

first of all I congratulate SA for thrashing India, now it is the time for India to bring drastic changes in the eleven.----My eleven for second ODI are Rohit, Shikar, Virat, Dhoni, Ajinkya, Rayudu, Ashwin, Amit, Umesh, Ishant and Shami.

Posted by Cricketlover54 on (December 6, 2013, 6:27 GMT)

100 off 5 Overs!! Rohit Sharma the third batsman to cross 200 mark in ODI's!! 37 sixes in 1 match!

India arriving in SA and all of India's batsman are dancing in the crease. A bowl first wicket and even after winning the toss SA batsman destroyed India's weak bowling. Steyn and Co. Carving up this brittle batting lineup; this so called #1 Team bundled for just over 200.

Where are the Indian fans that were boasting about Bkumar's and Shami's ability. Both are poor bowlers, in fact none of the cricketers in India's squad are international quality. No. 1 at Home, absolutely pathetic overseas.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 6:25 GMT)

As usual a few guys here see what they want to see and read what they want to see. When did I ever wave a white flag? Is it a white flag if I say that chasing 350 is a big task against Steyn etc? In fact, chasing 350 anywhere in the world is a big task. It is only India that can do it at home and even here it is only India who could have done it. No other team in the world can be said to be confident chasing even 300 at home. SA for eg can't 180s in Dubai's dull tracks and low 200s at home.

@Dhanno:

What are you trying to prove with those stats for Ahmed Shehzad? They came batting first so how are they relevant here?If you can't handle stats then why do you bring them out?

Why did you use the term "We" while talking about India a while back when you are not really an Indian unless you are one of those who are forever in an hopeless state of mind?

Posted by Rafelgibt on (December 6, 2013, 6:22 GMT)

I think from now on IND will tour to outside of sub continent in one once in 5 years.So that their so called world class flat track bashers (except Dhoni and Kohli) would not be exposed vulnerably in outside of sub continent.Thats the only way they can save their star batsmen.Really looking forward to see what happens when they play 3 to 5 match TESt series in AUS,NZ,SA or ENG (Though i really doubt BCCI would never going to arrange like those).Sympathy for IND fans.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:22 GMT)

This is called 'heavy grilling' to the team performing on 'flat pitches', that had to happen! India should start playing more away home matches & more of non-flat pitches games.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 6:19 GMT)

after such a huge score in foreign land Indias defeat was eminent....But the 141 runs defeat was really a pity...

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 6, 2013, 6:18 GMT)

@Greatest_Game:

Poor excuse? I am talking about real facts that matter for any team anywhere, not just India. England landed a long time before the 1st Ashes test in Aus, I think they played TWO practice games yet were blown away in the first test --- by what? By Pace & Bounce --- this when they are supposedly acclaimed in handling that.

On the other hand, Indian batsmen in their very first outing were facing 358 and Rohit/Dhawan were facing Steyn.

Note that I am talking a word about the wicket itself. The wicket was good.

Excuses are those when some teams say oh the wicket was slow and that is why we lost (read: Indian won). Excuses are those when some teams label a perfect Chennai Test Wicket as doctored ignoring that every aspect of cricket did well on that wicket. Excuses are those when a team with so called great bowler conceded the 1st ever 200 of ODIs but blames it on small ground or flat track and does not admit its failure.

Keep in mind that Cricket is a great leveler.

Posted by Vivfan on (December 6, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

Pathetic performance by a pathetic team.

Using concrete like pitches to inflate Batting averages. Now we know what happens when India face a true quality bowling attack.

Posted by GhulamLaghari on (December 6, 2013, 6:15 GMT)

Indian's are only made to play on their home soil...rest they can't even play on bouncy pitches, currently they have the weakest bowling line up..they will for sure lose series with 3 - 0 with the bowling line up they have.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:15 GMT)

I really don't understand Mohit Sharma and Bhuvaneswar's role in South African conditions. In SA condition we require bowlers with pace. Shami is fine. The said bowlers could be good in Indian conditions, not else where. We have to bring in Ishant and Umesh instead of Mohit and bhuvi.

Yuvraj is out of form and should bring in Rayudu.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (December 6, 2013, 6:12 GMT)

Its official we are the most hated cricket team in the world right now. No matter what some SA fans and PAK/SL fans(they are like vultures) say I am not gonna hate SA team. ABD again showed his class. How can you not like him. I get a feeling that he will be more destructive with out the burden of captaincy. Also Miller might need promotion and kallis can drop down a bit.

As for India Where is Umesh Yadav. He did well in CT and why is he not in the team. We also need two changes need one solid batsman in place of Yuvi/Raina combo and One fast bowler in place of Jadeja/Ashwin.

I still have faith in our team. Dhoni also misjudged the dew/rain factor.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 6:06 GMT)

@karthikrby, Point is if shami gets those wickets early bowling upfront India will not get smeashed in last few overs. Wickets are the key here. Knock over Amla, de villers. Play wicket takers like Umesh, Shami and even Ishant in thsoe conditions.

Posted by Tolaha on (December 6, 2013, 6:03 GMT)

yeah, it's not some lowly Pakistanis or Lankans that we are facing.

How about an all pace attack in the next match? Not that Raina or Yuvraj cannot spin it, if needed!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:03 GMT)

If Pakistan can win against SA having only one department functional (i.e.bowling). Then India with it's strong batting and fielding can bounce back strong too. don't read too much in to the first match. hope India come back strongly in 2nd match and make this hyped series more interesting.

Posted by cjscanada on (December 6, 2013, 6:03 GMT)

I wish people resist from taking a jibe with each other. It is good to support ones team or in general a player who you like. Good comments on situations and explanation into combinations from different perspective is interesting. My take is this Indian team is a good team and with a few overseas tour they will improve but it is upto an individual cause talents alone will not help you without self confidence. This is why I still rate Kohli, Dhawan highly along with Pujara and Rohit. People are harsh in judging Rohit, he has a good sense in trying to get the feel in the middle. The game was lost in the first half. Those calling for Ashwin's head, remember he is a balance to both our batting and bowling. Do not judge by just a game or a series. Bhuvi has bowled intelligently and well on Indian pitches, with one or two bad performances you want him out? I like some of our fellow Pakistani comments criticizing constructively. Others, it is just a game, so chill. SA is a class team though.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 6:02 GMT)

Looks like the person here blade runner is absolutely right. RSA looking to whitewash india...someone asked him to come back after the match, i wonder where is he now?

Posted by cooljack_143 on (December 6, 2013, 6:01 GMT)

Well well well, the problem is that World Cricket Loves India, They love the team so much that they cannot swallow their defeat, even our neighbors.Come on accept it. Team Ind has been in bashing because of the strong players with attitude that it creates.Now stop being jealous,be in reality.Ind will win coming matches.Its just a sport don't kill a team for that please!!!!!!!!!also stop saying that flat track bully thing etc etc..This is just 1 match where the combinations didn't work out as expected,will be rectified in future and victories will come.be modest and stop bashing.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 6:00 GMT)

South Africa is digging hole for themselves by playing on such picthes. They might win this bilateral series but it won't help them in World Cup. Pitches in Australia might bounce but they don't seam around or swing in ODI matches. Their bowlers will have some reality check out there. This is the main reason why South African bowlers never do well in world cups.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 6, 2013, 5:59 GMT)

@Syed Mujahid Hussein: Nice try bro. You say the final of the CT was a 20 over affair. But what about the previous games ? India trashed every team including your own PAK team. SA were beaten and bruised by India in the league stages. How conveniently can you people forget that eh ? What's with all the short term memories ? I guess Indians are not the only ones with it.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:59 GMT)

Those who think that 20 year olds like Sanju Samson. Aparajit, Vijay Zol, et al are too young to be tried out at the highest level (at least within India, to start with), may please look at the age of de Kock (20 years!). de Kock is definitely better than their great opener/Captain Smith.

Sanju Samson is India's de Kock.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 5:56 GMT)

@Shashank Shetty, There was one difference. We played Umesh Yadav, he was the one who got Hashim Amla. More than batting it was the bowling that we got wrong yesterday. Once Umesh and Ishant are back in this team along with Shami, it will be a different ball game for South Africa. Amla and de cock did presented chances that didn't carry yesteday. India should now vow to play attacking cricket with both bat and ball and nothing else. They will hit South Africa hard the next game, believe you me!

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 6, 2013, 5:56 GMT)

That is the most rude awakening for our team...This is what happens when you go straight away playing without practice matches..I hope the selectors got a lesson from this and make a complete changeover in our bowling department and remove the two and the most favoured batsmen yuvraj and Raina from the team for God's sake..Dhoni is ruining Ind team by including those two continously...We seriously need genuine fast bowlers along with Shami...we are not worthy of this number 1 tag if we continue play like this in abroad...

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

how poor they are actually on a foreign ground! making flat dead batting pitch at home grounds, chasing down or scoring 300-350 in every match, Kohli or Sharma may break Sachin's record but its not actually their true quality!! Indian bowling attack is poor than Bangladesh.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 5:55 GMT)

As a SA fan I'm happy everything went well yesterday. Have to day Kingsmead is not a great pitch for SA. Should fit India. Flat. We are nor going to intimidate them there. Roll on Centurion.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

When will ever see that Yuvi is fast becoming a liability. He doesn't bowl any more. Struggles with bat both against good spin & pace bowling. hs acrobatic fielding at point (being an Indian Jonty Rhodes) is something of the past. He didn't gather as much benefit from his French trip,unlike Zak. He is also becoming like some of the seniors who blocked the careers pf many a talented young cricketer.

Posted by JustTalkCricket on (December 6, 2013, 5:52 GMT)

As far as bowling is concerned change in personnel does not make any difference in bowling performance.

Ishant sharma or Mohit sharma, VK, BK or PK no change same result.

Posted by sevugapandian on (December 6, 2013, 5:51 GMT)

India team is useless, they should have bring Umesh Yadav in place of MM Sharma and bring Rahane in place of Yuvaraj, anf bring Amit Mishra in place of Ashwin, my best team for this SA series is S Dhawan/V Kohli/Rahane/Raina/Rohit Sharma/Dhoni/Mishra/Umesh Yadav/Shami remove Ashwin, he is totally waste.

Posted by Amol_Ind_SA on (December 6, 2013, 5:50 GMT)

Aadil: As a long time SA watcher, I would say, it's not just Dhoni but any else captain too would have found it difficult to choke the flood of runs by SA batters in the last 10 overs. SA are the specialists of it.

Posted by IndianSRTfan on (December 6, 2013, 5:50 GMT)

@Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 6, 2013, 1:40 GMT) @ Shan156 is supremely confident...... arrogance. We'll see about average." You seem to carry a massive chip on your shoulder. Granted SA won in a very dominant fashion but that's no guarantee they'll win the series. They are capable yes, but wait till series gets over eh? Pakistan, a minnow these days, nearly whitewashed SA in SA. So I'd wait before passing judgement on Indian players' capabilities based on a grand total of one match.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

i think we Indians are over reacting to one loss . We had the same team that played extraordinarily well in the Champions Trophy in conditions in which we are considered weak in terms of adjusting to the rising ball . of whatever i could manage to see last night there was a huge difference in the way Indians played before in South Africa compared to now .i felt at least we where not completely broken down by the pace attack .there where a LOT of misses but still u could see the Indians hanging in there which was not the case earlier .This Indian team is much more tough mentally .if not for the run outs of Rohit and Raina i still believe we could have gotten closer .there are a few technical flaws in the batting but i don't think even other foreign teams could have handled the BOUNCE which was on display yesterday . i still believe India can win this series if they bowl well . BEST OF LUCK INDIA .

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:44 GMT)

In first ten overs of Indian batting i was not believing that this is the same side who have chased 350+ runs in recent times but then i remembered that they ARE NOT IN INDIA

Posted by JustTalkCricket on (December 6, 2013, 5:44 GMT)

Bowling was awful. same SA batting was struggling to score 200+ and in this match they throughly enjoyed club level bowling to get back into groove. Mohhd Shami though looked only international class bowler rest all like stil playing in IPL.

Not much depth in batting line up after the retirement of Sachin, Dravid, and Laxman.

Dhoni is brave and produced fighting ugly looking innings with no conviction.

Good luck for rest of the tour till it gets over and come back to your own backyard for average and record boosting pitches.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 5:42 GMT)

Which was the bowler who got Hashim Amla out in Champions trophy MSD? Answer: Umesh Yadav, Play him. Basically India should go for wickets. No more than 230 to chase in any game.

Posted by IndianSRTfan on (December 6, 2013, 5:40 GMT)

Before we get carried away and start trashing India, there are some things that need consideration. Indian team has been in SA for two and a half days. Plus they played in Joburg which is 1753 m in altitude. Forget playing cricket in different conditions, getting used to that altitude with jet lag is surely gonna take time. BCCI's off field issues have played a key role in Indian team being under-prepared.

Having said that, SA played superbly. Their bowlers showed that they are a league above the other attacks in the world. Batting which wasn't clicking, did so brilliantly yesterday. It was good to see a young talent like Q.De Kock. He looks like he belongs here.

Indian top order needn't be disheartened. They have the talent and it will show. It would expecting too much from them to chase 360 in their first game in SA conditions after 2 days of net practice. But they need to adjust quickly. Middle order and bowling is a worry though. Bringing an extra bowler in might be a good idea.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:39 GMT)

Lets be Fair here all Asian team struggles in South Africa, Australia and England. Its the pure anger of Pakistan team which made them victorious in last SA series. And we all knew that India is going to struggle here no surprise but the real surprise is that the team which is making 300 in almost every game couldn't even cross 250 a big question mark here. And the people who are saying that India have won CL in England then please re thing the final was off 20 overs how you can judge the performance in 20 overs.

Posted by Kashi0127 on (December 6, 2013, 5:39 GMT)

It was a strange and weird sight. Men in pink thrashing boyz in blue! This is real cricket friends and test of character. It was lovely to see the SA fast bowlers making mockery of Indian batsmen. India always gloats with statistics and records playing on dead tracks of subcontinent and weak oppositions. They had no clue on how to play real pace on these pitches. No wonder India was chickening out touring SA and reduced the length of tour to short duration to cut down the misery

Posted by chin-music on (December 6, 2013, 5:38 GMT)

India's problem ofcourse is that with it's pop-gun (max. 135k) attack - they are always going to give 350-odd runs except on total turners -- but their batting can make up those 350 only on knee-high bounce pitches at home . Anyone who saw the ball whizzing around yesterday will know that 200-250 is the always the more likely result of any Indian innings against the SA bowling on Wanderers type pitches.

Posted by Yuosufahmed on (December 6, 2013, 5:37 GMT)

I believe the most important luck was not with India this time like they had earlier when chasing 350+ scores continuously against SL, Aus and some others. But, I am pretty sure they will come hard in remining matches, especially in Newlands if any which is a relatively similar to Indian tracks.

Posted by NEIL_GD_S10 on (December 6, 2013, 5:36 GMT)

india just lost one match, all people started bashing indian batsmen, please wait and watch, best is yet to come, this is just 1st match with less match pratice, dont forget India won Champions tropy and even won in west indies, so please wait and watch.

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 6, 2013, 5:33 GMT)

This is what India needs to do. Include Ishant and Umesh. Now play Ashwin at 4. Yes, you might be wondering what I am saying but Ashwins height helps him to ride the bounce. He could be an annoying batsmen for SA bowler. He keeps collecting runs in his own style and eat up overs as well from main bowlers. Rohit approach against steyn was OK. With bit more confidence what he can try and do is to stand a bit outside the crease and force steyn to alter his length. Also it will be good if Dhawan takes most of the strike against steyn as the ball will be swinging into his pads and he can pick him for runs on leg side. Not more than 1 spinner in Indian side. It becomes easy picking on those tracks where there is nothing for spinners. This performance looks bad but there were some definite positives like the DHONI, JADEJA, ASWIN, KOHLI middling the balls. Raina should back himnself. He is good runner and run outs will not happen every time. Also look to bat first.

Posted by Rajesh_India_1980 on (December 6, 2013, 5:29 GMT)

This is little bit more than what expected at the begining. I never expected 140+ defeat for mighty Indians...lol. This clearly shows the fallacy of No 1 ODI ranking which I have been uttering again and again. Ranking system has to be amended to refelect the changes in pitch conditions and the quality of the oponents. Current ranking system favours the flat track champions and the teams who frequently play with the minnows.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 5:29 GMT)

@gladly...correct your stats dude...india has neither won a test series nor an ODI series in SA ever...which series win r u talking about

Posted by drnaveed on (December 6, 2013, 5:28 GMT)

although ... still early days to express views , before the start of the first match, everyone mentioned about a great battle to be witnessed between the SA bowling pace power and the Indian batting power.but nobody mentioned anything about the contest of SA batting power vs the mediocre IND bowling attack.IND though of attacking SA batsmen with bunch of all those spinners and that too on the SA soil.this planned didn't work and will not work in the future also. if they had so many quality fast bowlers than why are they sitting out.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:27 GMT)

dear friends, sorry if it seems ugly to swallow the hard realities about the Indian team .Australia and England were NO.1 and they won at all soils , butt sorry to say this is not true with the Indian team,they Lost previously 12 test matches on a trot against Eng,Aus, & SA on their soils, even england had beaten them in India. secondly on the away they always struggle as Indian Bowling is not up to the international Standards even on the bouncy track they conceived 360 runs. thirdly almost all the batsmen in indian team are not youngsters except dhawan whose 1st tour to SA, so stop excusing that your boys are new to arena. finally they are good batsmen but they still have to prove on away soils.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:26 GMT)

Really disappointed the way MS captained his men when SA onslaught was going in the last 6-7 overs. I mean he stayed mum and let the bowlers bowl no matter how brutally they were slammed. Captains duty is not well served.

Posted by Ramansilva on (December 6, 2013, 5:24 GMT)

Indian fans.... We told you... We told that international cricket is not like IPL in your own back yard.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:23 GMT)

It is long time since I saw Indians dance to the tune of SA's music. No doubt we are tigers back home. too much publicity for our Indians, that they carried is a burden too.

Posted by TukTukVsBoomBoom on (December 6, 2013, 5:23 GMT)

As Pak fan & SA fan i am very happy and you know why India reduce matches because it is very tough condition for India & really very tough Pak & SA Played last 8 Matches SA not Across The 300 Because it is real fast bowling of Pakistan

Posted by himanshu.team on (December 6, 2013, 5:22 GMT)

The key factor was not "not knowing the conditions", but not playing according to the conditions. The fault lies with bowlers who failed to pick up early wicket is such helpful conditions and then gave away 100 runs in last 6 overs. When even 300 was doubtful, SA went on to score 350+. this is unacceptable. India must develop a couple of bowlers only for death bowling. I don't mind if we have a pacer who is not brought on till the 20th over is he can bowl well after the 40th. Despite the batting collapse, Dhoni showed that runs can be scored and India can easily put up 300+ score even in SA. For this match it was right to bowl first, but from now on if they win the toss, they should bat first. Let SA feel the pressure of chasing, which they are not good at, and crumble. This series is just getting started, and going by yesterday, I sense a mouthwatering contest on our hands. This Indian side is not going to surrender meekly and will fight back strong.

Posted by kr_kinshuk on (December 6, 2013, 5:21 GMT)

I saw two positives yesterday from an Indian POV... The way Dhoni batted.... even pulled steyn for a boundary....

and more importantly, the way kohli batted... yes, he got out... but in between he played a couple of gorgeous shots off steyn... yes, off steyn not the other weaker bowlers....

kohli and dhoni have contrasting body languages but they r willing to fight it out.... something that rohit rarely seems capable of.... kohli, dhoni and dhawan (a little doubtful about dhawan though) can still make a fight out of this series.... but the bowling has to turn up.... and one of jadeja and ashwin has to go... i couldn't believe my eyes when i saw both of them in the team....

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:21 GMT)

Come on people have some sporting spirit. Teams lose, even humiliated, but the real champs come back stronger...lets hope India does well. Way too much criticism of the young lads...this is our team, let's support them and wish them good luck. I predict the second match to be a close one.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:20 GMT)

I believe MS Dhone to be one of the finest captains in the world but in the previous match I was seriously disappointed the way he captained his squad. in the last 5 overs when the south African me ham was going through he never tried to converse with his bowlers or at least tried to contain runs. whatever man power you got you have to fight with it there is no excuse being the lack of pace or different playing conditions. Disappointed

Posted by Reggaecricket on (December 6, 2013, 5:19 GMT)

Indians are fantastic on sub continental tracks, but always struggle on aster racks. Remember Shewag struggling against the shirt ball?

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 5:19 GMT)

what a joke. india wilk be served better with zaheer sharing new ball with shami

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

I compleately Adore MS Dohni as Capt nd Player......It didnt seems to be a selfish knock...he atleast tried to Play the Old Strategy of keeping wicket in hand but none of the other Players offered any support....

Posted by kavi47 on (December 6, 2013, 5:14 GMT)

its normal just one match .............. and keep saying it

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 5:13 GMT)

very poor performance.hope india bounces back

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 5:11 GMT)

This is all what indian cricket is.....winning in india only with dead wickets even cl13 final was bowling win

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:11 GMT)

here is the thing i have observed among indian fans ( trather aters i must say )..... india wins at home, they say just a flat track bullies , home tracks, home advntage, bla bla bla... other team won in their back yard, wow great team , worldclass, great pitch, thats is class.... indian score 300+ in THEIR HOME , they say flat tracks, home advantage , even guly boy will score.... other team pile up 400+ in THEIR BAKCYARD , they say wow that is some talent, pitch was great, even contest between bat and ball, this is class , not HOME TRACK BULLIES

wow great now i think only india has home advantage and none other team has home advantage, only india should not score 300+ in their homw grounds and every other team cans core 400+ in their back yard, only indian team cant ask for pitches which support their spin bowling, other team can ask for seamer friendly pitches which their team is good at, only indian team should proove their ability to play away from home, not other teams...great...

Posted by Amol_Ind_SA on (December 6, 2013, 5:10 GMT)

As an Indian, I would say the only Indian who could proudly show off his double-century individual score and was worthy of it was...Sachin Tendulkar. Every else pretender has been exposed by this face-off. Like someone else said before me, this T20 tournaments are producing technique-less, worthless batting wonders. We need to boycott T20s and bring in more Tests and reduce lengths of ODIs from 50 overs to 40. We need to create fair pitches in order to nurture more quality bowlers in the league of Kumble and Venkatesh Prasad.

Posted by karthikrby on (December 6, 2013, 5:08 GMT)

Many questions on dhoni. Why he didn't use shami upfront? Why he chose yuvi at no 4. Answers are below:

Dhoni knows zaheer will come back strongly during world cup 2015. So bowler upfront issue will be solved automatically. Modern day bowlers leak more runs after 30 overs. So we need a bowler with the potential of shami to bowl more overs after 30 to stop the run flow and pick wickets with his skills with old ball.

If you take any bilateral series (dhoni considers them with less importance compared to CT/WC), he plays top 3 with good technique and 4,5,6,7 as slam bang match winners. Means one among top 3 have the pressure always to play a long innings. Also 4,5,6,7 gets more batting oppurtunities.

But when comes to WC/CT, he chooses top 4 with right technique and keep 5,6,7 as slam bang. Thats why you can see unflopped batting from india in CL/WC. So be patient to see how india mold up during WC. Dhoni is on the way to give youngsters few chances, all criticizers will be fooled :)

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

Let's borrow Pakistani bowlers for a month to teach South Africa what cricket is all about!

Posted by anselhosein on (December 6, 2013, 4:59 GMT)

India is a mediocre side probably just above West Indies. They prepare pitches at home to suit their bowlers. Welcome to reality Dhawan, Yuvi & company.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 4:58 GMT)

yuvraj is finished. bring in karthik. stuart binny and abhishek nayar should be in also for raina and jadeja

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 4:58 GMT)

Its just lame excuses. Indian team is good in their home only.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 4:57 GMT)

A reality check for India. Indian team is always overrated as they play maximum of their matches on flat tracks of India. No. 1 ranking based on matches in flat tracks only.

Posted by saliadnan on (December 6, 2013, 4:56 GMT)

I always wonder if Pakistan produces its fast bowlers battery from punjab region then why not india form its side of punjab. India should invest in indian punjab for fast bowling as i only see them to have a potential for fast bowling coz they have built and attitude for it. India have a potential to bounce back in this series and harsh comments against them is premature right now. best wishes from a pak fan.

Posted by Dilseben on (December 6, 2013, 4:56 GMT)

An excellent performance by the Proteas...kudos to their openers who bided their time & ensured that they didnt lose their wickets when the pitch had some dew in it. Dhoni definitely took the right decision of fielding first but there is nothing that he can do when his bowlers are so pathetic when it comes to death bowling. I hope the bowlers are able to put up a decent performance in the next match or else we will be looking at an absolute whitewash in both formats. Regarding the team composition, I feel we will be better off by giving Rahane & Umesh in place of Yuvraj/Raina & Mohit. Anywaz the Captain knows better...

Posted by Srini_Chennai on (December 6, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

@Harmony111: Wonderful comment. It is amazing how these couch potatoes think it is very straight forward to hammer SA in SA within 2 days of landing. You're absolutely right, it is the multitude of target which made Indian batsmen a little itchy than the brilliant bowling of SA. Kohli, Dhawan, Dhoni even Raina looked very comfortable. On the other side, bowling is a worry though. We need to get rid of Mohit Sharma who can't swing or bounce the ball and replace with Umesh Yadav. My team for Durban would be: Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Rahane, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Ashwin, Shami, Bhuvi, Umesh.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

If India is a batting team then they should have chased this moderate total We'll... India is simply Indian sub-continent team and their batsman can score only in home grounds.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

this proves that India only can win games in home. Overseas, excepr asia, they are really unsuccessful as proven in the past.

Posted by job_eapen on (December 6, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

It was a rather disappointing allround performance by India...Superb allround performance from SA...superb hostile bowling from Steyn, Morkel, Parnell and Mclaren....And power hitting at the maximum from SA batsmen...full credit goes to SA for pulling off such an incredible victory.....

For India it was a rather disappointing game...If India need to pull off the series their bowlers really need to setup..U cant always expect your batsmen to chase 350+ runs all the time...Really expected Dhoni would go with Umesh Yadav on SA pitch rather than sticking with Mohit Sharma...there is Bhuvaneshwar and Shami who could swing the ball..Umesh with his pace could have come in handy..

As for the batsmen their inability to play bouncers and short balls on these pacey pitches in SA have been exposed pretty well by SA bowlers...none of then except Dhoni couldn't perform well..someone from the top order should have been there with Dhoni..& Yuvi...you need to find some form fast mate...

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 4:42 GMT)

RIGHt i see how everyone's going on and on about India being flat track bullies!!! Guys!! its called home advantage... so stop going after their lives!! jeez man.. for all of you lambasting the team.. whats your problem man.. jealous that the team is way ahead of your nations teams on ranking??? true the batting was exposed yesterday, but that's meant to happen. Flat to bouncy wickets.. what did you think was going to happen?? easy does it guys.. its a game.. don't make it personal!! Well played Dhoni.. All those criticizing Kohli. Not sure if you were watching but he looked most comfortable against the new ball attack yesterday!! Steyn and Morkel what great fast bowling.. not sure any other batsmen would have played them any better... Its a game guys enjoy it!!!

Posted by bplusa on (December 6, 2013, 4:39 GMT)

Magnificant display of Hostile fast Bowling by South African Bowlers ; especially Dale Styen. Weakness in Indian batting exposed in first 10 overs of their batting again proving that they are LIONS at HOME. India must consider immediate remedial actions otherwise it will be too late for them. If same display of batting continued ; A 3-0 white wash is very much on the cards; I am afraid. Feel sorry for Indian Fans but FACT IS FACT.

Posted by joe_antony on (December 6, 2013, 4:39 GMT)

It was hilarious, when wanderers roared and cheered Rohit when he first made contact with the ball after a good 14 balls. I remember people started penning down him as next big thing during the home season, what a confidence. Steyn was toying him and it was funny to watch Rohit. But atleast he could hang in and survive for a good 40 odd balls, what about Yuvi, never had a clue why he is in the tour first and to add to horror he is automatically in the playing IX. What a pathetic day for Cricket.

Posted by MelbourneMiracle on (December 6, 2013, 4:38 GMT)

India? No.1 ranked ODI team? really?

Posted by ramli on (December 6, 2013, 4:34 GMT)

Just one match is over ... let us give the young guys some more time before passing judgment ... CT2013 was no fluke ... there is hope that the young guns will evolve soon

Posted by Srini_Chennai on (December 6, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

Well played SA. It was not complete gloom for India. Dhawan, Kohli, Dhoni and even Raina looked comfortable until they got out. No team in the world can play in such alien conditions against such a high quality bowling without any preparation. England who was brought up in pace and bounce, even with 1 month of preparation got absolutely hammered in 1st test. I'm sure even SA batsmen would have struggled against Morkel, Steyn & co. I feel they'll improve as the tour progresses and expecting a much improved performance from India next ODI. COME ON INDIA!

Posted by CRIC_FAN94 on (December 6, 2013, 4:31 GMT)

@Shiraz Ahmed Siddiqui Short boundaries? wanderers is very small ground compared to any ground in india.Have you seen the match?

Posted by TBCPak on (December 6, 2013, 4:29 GMT)

one should not read too much into the result. the fact remains that (1) the india do have a good batting line up (2) they were suppose to struggle little bit in SA and (3) they were under prepared.

the results make one ponder that how fantastic job Pakistan bowling attack done in SA in recent past, they never allowed SA batters to bat with such freedom.

Posted by PureProteas49 on (December 6, 2013, 4:27 GMT)

Well played men, that is what I call a thrashing of note, I don't think there is a batsman on this planet who has an answer for Dale Steyn, sheer brilliance, BTW, I mentioned the Wanderers steep bounce but I was laughed off, not so funny now, is it

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 6, 2013, 4:25 GMT)

While India have lost the opening ODI badly, we need to remember that SA are playing AT HOME. They have hardly won anything of substance when playing in the subcontinent (excluding the UAE) and yet nobody speaks about that. I guess India is the ONLY team that struggles overseas ? WRONG ! Pretty much every team struggles overseas. Since India are popular and the most watched team in cricket, they are targeted. SA are usually masters in such conditions. Their bowlers thrive on bouncy pitches. Once they come to India, they are cannon fodder. How convenient that people forget that simple truth eh ? What goes around comes around. India will continue to struggle in SA and SA will continue to struggle in India. Who can forget how Tendulkar smashed Steyn and co. to bring up the first 200 by any batsman in ODIs ?! Pure carnage.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 4:21 GMT)

after see Rohit bat.... now I have too much expectation for him in test matches... HE is the one who will emerge as a great talent in TESTS.... I expect nothing less that one century from him in tests.... as far as bowling, WHERE IS THE PACE???? PACE means SHEAR PACE,

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 4:17 GMT)

ok.. I saw many mention about small boundaries in India....r u serious??? SA has the longest boundary of around 60 meters, ant neutral fan can see that.... so that short boundary in India argument is rubbish.... even miss hits go for Sixes in SA.... agree Indian bowlers were rubbish, but batsmen were good provided that they dint have enough time to get in.... 350 is too much to chase in a 250 pitch...

Posted by Desihungama on (December 6, 2013, 4:16 GMT)

As a Pakistani fan I'd like to say in Indian team's defense that the fault lies with their board for hastily sending the players without having the proper match practice in South African conditions. RIP Mandela!

Posted by yoogi on (December 6, 2013, 4:14 GMT)

Yuvi completely clueless to what was happening in those two balls. Raina, knew what was happening, but couldnt do anything. Rohit tried to survive every ball as if that is the last ball of a good spell. Only Dawan and Kohli believed in chasing the total but they realized it is not easy agains SA attack. Only Dhoni looked comfortable playing his shots and ofcourse Ashwin. May be bring in Pujara early for Yuvi.

Posted by nobeel on (December 6, 2013, 4:13 GMT)

India is the champ at home. At home Dhawan can be Dhawan and Dhoni can ask for bowling machines but outside India, the story is very different.

Posted by Islamic on (December 6, 2013, 4:11 GMT)

Initially i enjoyed couple of boundaries from dhawan then it was all disappointing.... sharma was no way near the ball and dhoni played a conventional selfish knock...

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 4:07 GMT)

The series just started. Yes, it just started. People have to understand that. India reached RSA just a couple of days back and they didn't have any practice matches to play. Asking the subcontinent players to get adjusted to the RSA conditions in two days is like asking a fish to live without water. It needs time. I am sure by the time the first test begins, India will be a better team. On the other hand Umesh Yadav should be brought in the place of Mohit Sharma and Rahane or Rayudu should replace Yuvraj Singh. It would be also good if Rahane is asked to open against the swinging Steyn and drop Rohit to number 4.

Posted by Anil_Koshy on (December 6, 2013, 4:03 GMT)

Raina and Yuvraj, both does not deserve to be in the side, when you have better players like Rayadu and Manoj Tiwari sitting. We can still give benefit of doubt to Yuvraj on the basis of his past performance but Raina was never a good player, he is good only in IPL, does not have the class to play at international level.

Posted by gladly on (December 6, 2013, 4:02 GMT)

what happens to yuvraj such a great player but last 5-6 matches he was dismissed and scores zero four times.hope next matches yuvraj performes but his confidence is hugely down.now he cant even see the bowl.but other 2 matches ind will win bcoz india is a team who always loss first match in foreign countries but suddenly come back and win the series thats why they called the best team in the world.

Posted by gladly on (December 6, 2013, 4:01 GMT)

what happens to yuvraj such a great player but last 5-6 matches he was dismissed and scores zero four times.hope next matches yuvraj performes but his confidence is hugely down.now he cant even see the bowl.but other 2 matches ind will win bcoz india is a team who always loss first match in foreign countries but suddenly come back and win the series thats why they called the best team in the world.

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 6, 2013, 4:00 GMT)

Head to head for this match, Rohit Vs Amla = Rohit is the best ? , Dhawan Vs De Kock = Dhawan is the best?, Kohli Vs Kallis = Kohli is the best?, Yuvraj Vs Dumini = Yuvraj is the best? Raina Vs De Villiers = Raina is the best ?, Dhoni Vs Miller = Dhoni is the best??,Jadeja Vs McLaren = Jadeja is the best?, Ashwin Vs steyn = Ashwin is the best ?, Bhubaneswar Vs Morkel = Bhubaneswar is the best?, Shami Vs Parnell = Shami is the best?, Mohit vs Tsotsobe = Mohit is the best?, look IND is world class team but then I don't know how IND lose ???

Posted by optimiser on (December 6, 2013, 3:59 GMT)

As I said before the match and repeating the same now too, bowling is the only way to win matches in these conditions. That was a pathetic display of bowling right up front from Bhuvi conceding width, bowling short balls at a pace of 128-133.. Seriously what was he doing. Amla clearly struggled against good length balls swinging in & Indian bowlers couldn't consistently bowl those lengths. The only silver lining if any is that shami has hit the right lengths more often than not & bowled relatively well in the slog overs too. Now I think we can confidently say that 3-0 & a demolishing 2-0 is not far away

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 3:53 GMT)

As expected.....without any practice match, barely 2 days in tour, it was very much on cards. Alein conditions topped up with some neverending shortpitch stuffs....there was no hiding but to lose by 141 runs!! I see our bowlers not taking responsibilities to restrict home team. Dhoni said rightly, it was not 300+ track.

Posted by MelbourneMiracle on (December 6, 2013, 3:50 GMT)

No.1 ODI team got hammered by No.5 team by 141 runs? Totally unacceptable...

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 3:48 GMT)

india could have, should have is all too far fetched. Reality is that they can only score and win in their backyard. Once out of the subcontinent, air goes out of balloon.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 3:45 GMT)

Indian batting expose in south africa . Indian team only win in India.India in this time no number one team because Indian team very weak in other countries.

Posted by SHER-A-PANJAB on (December 6, 2013, 3:43 GMT)

Wao ......SA won ......and Quinton De Kock played really a fantastic inning ,,(junior Adam Gilchrist ) ,,,thank god

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 3:42 GMT)

3 match series is not enough to show your potential...that too in hostile conditions!

Posted by IshanH on (December 6, 2013, 3:42 GMT)

After bullying Aussies and Windies in low and spinning wickets we get thrashed by an out-of-form SA side. I personally think the games are more interesting when there is a good contest between bat and ball. Something in the wicket for fast bowlers and spinners and (good) batsmen. For all those fans who are trying to defend the team and talk Kohli up, he did it a couple of times in chases but that doesn't make him world class YET. Give due respect to players from the other teams we're playing as well. It's ok to lose games, BUT as the no1 team, this huge loss is unacceptable!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

Refresh my mind. How many runs did Kohli, "the best ODI Batsman" score? And what happened when the chase for 359 runs began?

Posted by lillee4PM on (December 6, 2013, 3:38 GMT)

Indians are soft away from home; good opportunity for Safas to kill these pretty boys off!

Posted by TRAM on (December 6, 2013, 3:34 GMT)

Just want to tell those who dont know. Against the same SA bowling one India player by name S.Badrinath scored 56 in one of the only 3 innings chance he got in tests when all other batsmen failed. And he was never ever given chance after that.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 3:34 GMT)

Every run scored by India will b a record:)

Posted by 10Vashi10 on (December 6, 2013, 3:28 GMT)

its the first game and everyone is hyping up, we all know that in most matches, india always looses the first games then come backs and wins the others.. for exmaple against the aussies, they lost the first game and later came back with a strong reply. The same will happen in the next game but all india has to do is to make a few changes, firstly replace mohit with yadav and rest raina for rahane or rayudu

Posted by black_bird on (December 6, 2013, 3:27 GMT)

South africa was just lucky. Next match, and we will show, what is india. jadeja and dhoni almost took the match away. Rohit, raina, youvraj all will trash medicore south africa bowling. And wait for B.Kumar. he will rip all of the saffer ordinary bastmans.

Posted by Kashi0127 on (December 6, 2013, 3:20 GMT)

It was a strange and weird sight. Men in pink thrashing boyz in blue! This is real cricket friends and test of character. It was lovely to see the SA fast bowlers making mockery of Indian batsmen. India always gloats with statistics and records playing on dead tracks of subcontinent and weak oppositions. They had no clue on how to play real pace on these pitches. No wonder India was chickening out touring SA and reduced the length of tour to short duration to cut down the misery

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 3:15 GMT)

The conditions are surely different from flat indian pitches, but the way Indian bowlers bowled, it was terrible. The only way for India is to bat first and try to contain S.A. batsmen, for if they bat first without any pressure the present Indian bowling is gonna go all over into the stands.

Posted by RetiredGenius on (December 6, 2013, 3:11 GMT)

Why this Indian team is being trashed? It is because they are No.1 in rankings and they are recent world champions. What does that mean? That they should be able to survive in ANY given pitch to bat and bowl on. The team can't even play on different pitches, especially bouncy ones and they claim to be the best side in the word? What happened to the Sharma, Kholi, Dhawan, etc? I thought lots of batting records were being broken by these flat track bullies hahahaha (A BIG JOKE).

No excuse on "Oh we just came from our own country and didn't have time to prepare for this match". GIVE ME A BREAK!!. Other teams seem to adjust perfectly fine.

This series is still ongoing and if anyone reading this, please make proper adjustments soon and also have your own groundsmen back home prepare these pitches for you guys for mental preparation. Not everything goes in one way. FACE IT!!. Either you can read this as a criticism, or a wake up, but please show improvement and show us your No.1 status!!

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 3:09 GMT)

Poor Indian performance. The wickets are fast and bouncy which means set a total and try defending it. Even if they lose doing that the margin of defeat will be less and they will learn how to defend totals. like this match

Posted by ReverseSweepIndia on (December 6, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

thoroughly outplayed. Well done & congrats SA. ADV is most versatile cricketer in the world. Bowling is as good as it goes. Coming to India, we were poor overall, but even before the start of series I had said that I will take ODI series loss if they get to learn handling rising ball. Though they did not do any good but I would still like to see positive side. There were 2 runouts which I can attribute to scorecard pressure, sure could have been avoided. Rohit, initially finding it difficult to put bat to ball, but spent some time. Dhawan will always be like this, though consumed by a bouncer but more often than not he will succeed, need to judge the length where he can pull. Kohli was doing good, he too was consumed by bounce, but In know he is too good a batsman to repeat the same mistake. Yuvi, better he get replaced by Rahane, sooner the better. Dhoni, he canl play his manufactured strokes anywhere. And, it will be better for a change bowlers concede less than 300

Posted by kpcp on (December 6, 2013, 3:04 GMT)

I really don't understand the need of Aswin, Jadeja, & Mohith at this venue. Most South African pitches are supporting fast bowlers, why Dhoni picked these three? Was he over confident on Ashwin and Jadeja? Now most important is call back Zaheer Khan and Ishant to bowl with Bhuvi and Shami. Other wise same fate will continue.

Posted by Rukky on (December 6, 2013, 2:59 GMT)

Well, according to what we are seeing in recent from of Yuvraj and Raina..they should definitely be dropped. Particularly Yuvraj his few last outings he made 3 ducks (with in 3 balls)...it puts lots of pressure to the other players following him in the batting order. We should try Umesh Yadav also instead of Ravindra Jadeja in the next match. Because we need some fast bowlers.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:59 GMT)

after watching this match,its clear team india is *GHER KE SHER*.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 2:58 GMT)

Did any one notice rohit sharma batting.

Posted by Sudu_putha on (December 6, 2013, 2:52 GMT)

What happened to flat track champs... huh huhaaa Where are those 200 plus runs Rohith... India only good on thise flat IPL Wickets in India... where u can make 400 runs.. he hehhee....

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:50 GMT)

Needless to say the Indian bashers here were just waiting for an opportunity to pounce but lets ignore the immatured. In the press conference dhoni said no point blamin the schedule but sorry skipper you got to blame it. The boys play throughout the year and you cant expect them to keep performing. The board needs to get its priorities straight. Ashfkk here rightly said ' Last week these guys were playing in India on flat pitches and now they are playing on quick n bouncy tracks' They should have been on that flight to rsa atleast 10 days earlier. A couple of warm up games would have been nice. Also it would have been nice if you had included zaheer and pujara for the odis as well. Zaheer is a good death bowler and he did well the last time he was there. Pujara is a quality batsman and handles pace/bounce far far better than yuvraj or raina. Dhoni can do little if the others dont support him. Bhuvanesh disappointed. Mohit is a newbie give him some time. Shami was alright.

Posted by grizzle on (December 6, 2013, 2:49 GMT)

Liked it, but not satisfied. Anything less than 3-0 for SA would be disappointing.

Posted by thegr8indian on (December 6, 2013, 2:46 GMT)

This is what the difference between the current top order and the top order with Sehwag, Tendulkar and Dravid. They never surrender in this way :-( Ohh Mohit Sharma, I was expected a lot from him after seeing him IPL. Looks he also an IPL buddy like our great Raina, Sharma and Pathan :-)

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:42 GMT)

pleasure to see India been hammer like this thanks SA........

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:35 GMT)

India did not get much practice in SA. Its known that Indian batsmen are uncomfortable against Pace and swing and we saw it. Indian bowlers failed that is bit concerning. Once Wasim Akram was said that when tour Australia by the time they get used to the Ausi conditions the tour was over. Same thing might happen with India.

When SA and Australia are playing pace and bounce have minimal influence on the result. Because both countries are good on playing fast pitches. Batsmen know how to play short pitch balls. Where as Indians play only on flat pitches. It is near impossible to win a Test series or even a test match in countries like SA,Australia and England. I enjoy test matches between SA vs Australia. Bowlers also respected equally in those matches.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:34 GMT)

Recent wins in home really was the reason I overrated India! I wish they they bowl and bat much better next game. They were more than lucky to survive the intial spell of Steyn!

Posted by wapuser on (December 6, 2013, 2:29 GMT)

South Africa Should Reduce The Amount Of Extras They Concede . I think South Africa Win The Series 3-0. India Cant Do What NZ And Pak Did in south africa

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:26 GMT)

now India has proved that they are not that much talent players outside India, but I don't think still they will accept same as all knows how they boost abouth them selves, Go South Africa go - 3 -0 win.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

well played india against a strong team like SA. even india deserved it. now india need to play against Afgan for improve their's batting quality bcoz they have vary good pace bowler like(hamid hasan, shapoor jadran). and one advice for india don't chit with your team be honest to make your (batting/bowling PEACH). if u dont that then u'll loose every international series. even against afgan.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

lions at home but nothing abroad.

Posted by WC2011Champs on (December 6, 2013, 2:22 GMT)

Sachin O. Khairnar team makes the most sense. This is SA and not India. The next world cup is going to be played on similar pitches with similar bowling attacks. Why have Yuvraj and Raina both in the team especially when they are not in form? Send them back to back at #4 and #5 and even the bowling plan needs no changes. Ashwin will have to skip ODI games now because Jadeja is a clever bowler and a lot better fielder. Ishant and Yadav are both required in the new scheme of things. One banging it short and another bowling full at express pace, while Bhuvi and Shami do their thing that is taking wickets. I remember 2003 final when Brett Lee kept banging it short and the kookaburra just flew past the face. Indian bowling did not have a clue back then what to bowl to Ponting and today was no different.

Posted by sonu77 on (December 6, 2013, 2:21 GMT)

@ a: yeah,quick n bouncy wicket, but still indian bowlers(specially pacers) conceded 350+

Posted by deadite11 on (December 6, 2013, 2:16 GMT)

Just make it simple. This is the only sport where rules can be changed by anywhere/anytime/anybody. This can hamper the quality of bowlers. Just bring again the old field restriction rule and you can see a tight match which team can battle even at the total of 250s.

Posted by abdulnasir786 on (December 6, 2013, 2:10 GMT)

Backyard cricket is over. I am sure in the next series at home, all these indian batsman make their averages good and get the status of God. Grow up please.

Posted by CricketFever11 on (December 6, 2013, 2:07 GMT)

Truly, most of the indian batsmen are overrated and genuinely flat wicket players.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 2:02 GMT)

Pin up poster boy Indians not so good out side of their own turf are they?

Posted by El_Toro_Loco on (December 6, 2013, 2:02 GMT)

For all those delusional fans india imagining that india will bounce back, Reality check is india will never bounce back on this tour. Whitewash was written before the series even started, just like the last two tours of England & Australia. Hahaha....

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 2:01 GMT)

Good to see Kallis thrashing all the bowlers around the park, oh no it wasnt him that was Amla who scores slowely, guess a snail could out score poor Kallis

Posted by ladla30 on (December 6, 2013, 2:01 GMT)

Even though it is a proven fact that team India has always managed to produce one of the most out standing batsman this cricketing world has ever seen but it is also a fact that most of their glory in confined within the boundaries of sub continent. Current demise of Indian batsman in south Africa has done nothing but to prove this point. Now one can make an argument by saying that it was not enough time for Indians to prepare themselves for Steyn and Co or they were not given at least two warm up matches before one can jump to conclusions and we can accept all that but how are we going to describe Indian bowling attack? How are we going to explain 6 over 100+ death bowling stats.

after all these are the same pitches on which SA was not able to post more the 260's Was this an upset or this is what Team India is all about? We will find out soon.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 2:00 GMT)

well well well..... India may have the chance to win the second Odi otherwise they are just winning consistently at their home. play away from the home like pakistan is Never easy. But the key is that india can bounce back, and it should be.Dhoni considering their bowling department do not performing as a high standerd but he may faces some seam bowling to their batting department too

Posted by mahi678 on (December 6, 2013, 2:00 GMT)

its high time to bring pujara. i could see reversal of fortunes....india ranked no.1 in odis and no.2 in tests. i guess currently india looks stronger in tests than odis. results will reveal that.....

Posted by wake_up_india on (December 6, 2013, 1:59 GMT)

Once again it has been proven that Indian cricket is a different game than that played in SA, England, Australia and New Zealand.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:57 GMT)

INDIA is a very highly over-rated team and are home track bullies. If you prepare spin oriented pitches at home and beat the opposition teams then this is what you got to expect to get sweet chin music when touring other countries.

Posted by San87 on (December 6, 2013, 1:57 GMT)

Team India would fight back. It takes time to adjust to climate changes. So Time would give you the perfect answer.

All the Best Team India.

Posted by mahi678 on (December 6, 2013, 1:52 GMT)

hey team management pretend that yuvi,raina,mm sharma had injuries and bring in pujara, varun aaron, etc...

Posted by El_Toro_Loco on (December 6, 2013, 1:52 GMT)

@ piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda: What happened to your fire breathing dragon Kolhi here today? Reduced to single cylinder mis-firing Vespa.LOLzzz

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:50 GMT)

Give Yuvraj , Raina and Mohit Sharma a break to enjoy christmas holiday. Because they donot deserve a place in indian XI

Posted by Shaun_wick on (December 6, 2013, 1:50 GMT)

I think Indian team showed what is the real level of their cricket after a long time played in their own soul. They are very strong team in India, but good crikect team always need to be consistance in any surface. Not sure ranking number one is a good label to Indian team till they can perform well in oversear. They always organise too many matches in India and normally win in India and keep their Rank up. Good luck for them anyhow in this tournment.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 1:47 GMT)

What a thrashing.. Really enjoyed it ,big thanx to team SA for showing us the true colour of team india.. Congrats SA and waiting for a whitewash..

Posted by CricketChat on (December 6, 2013, 1:46 GMT)

All the easy runs by Ind batsmen on flat Ind pitches won't come to their aid in SA. All these batsmen who created one record after another came cropper when the ball did a bit of the air and pitch. Things won't get any easier for them from now on with SA bowlers breathing down on them. Raina and Yuvraj are bad choices for this tour as both are susceptible to short pitched bowling. Hoping for better contests for the rest of tour. Ind batting brought back to earth from the lofty highs built on flat pitches.

Posted by anupkeni on (December 6, 2013, 1:45 GMT)

This match could mark the beginning of 16 months of overseas humiliation for Team India unless they mend their ways. Playing two spinners at Johannesburg is simply unacceptable. The way Shikhar Dhawan and Virat Kohli were laughing in the dressing room, when Team India were losing wickets is simply unacceptable.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 1:45 GMT)

the problem with Indian fans( or rather haters) is, they expect India to perform like the WIndians in 80's... can't help it, but I thank them for their love and expectations for our team..... but never the less you had an off day, first the blunder in selection, and inexperienced bowlers couldn't find the length, no warm up game, like this we can give 'n' number. of excuses, but you know it won't do any good and Indians never make excuses unlike Lankan fans.... the batsmen are extraordinary, they look very good for the time they played, bowling needs some tips... hope umesh is back, and bhuvi learns the line and length to bowl.. I am sure the young guns will learn.... go India

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 6, 2013, 1:41 GMT)

Ok, I just realize that Zak isn't in the ODI Squad. So, it has to be Umesh in the place of that short-haired short Sharma. Please make that change. It's not always about pushing forward CSK players. Raina and Yuvi have to be dropped. Since Pujara is not in the squad (pray how, why), it has to be Rahane and Rayudu. That'll be the best possible eleven for now.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:41 GMT)

India on bouncy fast picthes :O And their own bowling hmm.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 1:40 GMT)

I think instead of Bhuvi and Mohit, MSD should pick Umesh Yadav and Zaheer Khan. Zaheer the most experinced bolwer with good line and bowling and umesh with pace and bounce.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 6, 2013, 1:40 GMT)

@ Shan156 is supremely confident that "India will bounce back ... Once they get acclimatized, they will dish out a similar trouncing to SA who are really a very average ODI team."

Once the series is over I hope you show your face around here.You are full of excuses, which if you take note, India's great captain did not resort to using. He is able to man up and admit to the truth - & he does not hide behind an anonymous keyboard!

India may bounce back. They certainly have the ability, but nothing in this game suggests that is guaranteed. Nothing. India getting acclimatised will not change Dale Steyn or Morne Morkel's bowling, will it? It will not make Amla, or de Villiers, or Duminy, or Kallis, or de Kock or any Saffa a worse batsmen, will it? India's bowlers (Shami excepted) are not suddenly going to go from military medium to super quick! It won't make a ball turn on a seamer's track!

No. And nor will it make any less insulting your uncalled for arrogance. We'll see about average.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:40 GMT)

south africa wil win the series both odi and test

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 1:38 GMT)

Happens sometimes.dont worry

Posted by aliasad106 on (December 6, 2013, 1:35 GMT)

I am a big fan of kohli from Pakistan. Kohli need to adjust to pace and bounce and you guys have prety ordinary bowling. I would suggest India to play with more spinners. South Africa can't do much against spinners and Bring Zaheer Khan and play with only 2 pacers.. Learn from previous games of Pak and south Africa otherwise protees will take the series in next game

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:34 GMT)

Nice play SA..... True talent, not like media boost characters..

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:34 GMT)

India need bounce wicket in home. that could be helped .

Posted by Nigah on (December 6, 2013, 1:31 GMT)

Indian team proved that they are the tigers in their own home.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 1:27 GMT)

rohit cudnt even bat touch to the ball, steyns accurate bowling defuse indian batting in his 1st spell only

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 1:15 GMT)

what happened to the big boys. not in home conditions. .

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:02 GMT)

SA looked pretty in pink. I bet the Indian batsmen were confused by all the pretty in pink around them. India has there work cut out. This series will make or break a few careers for sure. Good luck to the men in blue.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 1:01 GMT)

On same pitch same pak bowlers hammered every corners check stats ,17 march 2013 ..SA vs PAK .. 2 Century by AB & Amla .total 343 so it was bad day for ind ..!

Posted by bMike on (December 6, 2013, 0:58 GMT)

India should not be allowed to play any tournament outside sub continents. Flat track bullies get trashed everywhere outside sub continents.

Posted by Wacky_Cric_Lover on (December 6, 2013, 0:56 GMT)

For me this is the test of indian bowling because batting will catch up in the next two matches. However if the indian bowling can not make use of these conditions then I feel sorry for indian batsmen because they will have to clear the mess created by their "spearhead" attack. Also these pitches are flat pitches. Statistics are there to prove that. Even Pakistan managed to score 300+ on this track. ravi shastari and co. should stop making excuses.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 0:55 GMT)

These young bunch haven't been exposed to these fast pitces.yet if they watch their mistakes carefully,it would be good comeback for the boys.The pitches in SA pay for your pace.They are fast,bouncy and pumps them.Batsmen need to settle down for a while

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 0:51 GMT)

It has been proved Pakistan has given good practice to South Africa.

Posted by Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on (December 6, 2013, 0:50 GMT)

India was not expected to score 350+ in Wanderers considering it was the first game and Steyn having tail up. Indian top order showed patience and batsman got enough time to spend in the middle with top order scoring double digits clearly showed alien conditions were really not that Alien. Overall it was a very good outing given they were just here 2 days back. Just a little tweek in the bowling length and Raydu for Yuvraj should fix the middle order. Well Played South Africa and series is perfectly setup for an exciting tour.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 0:50 GMT)

I would like if india will play with Rishi dhawan. india need a fast bowler allrounder in SA not a slow bowler allrounder .I think Yuvraj n Raina's time is over they can't play quality bower any more .

Posted by _Cover_Drive on (December 6, 2013, 0:42 GMT)

I see more comments by Indian neighbors than Indian themselves. It seems like India's loss is bigger than their own countries win. Well, all the Indian neighbors are impotent in bigger tournaments as much as the Indian bowlers are.

Bowling first was a huge mistake by Dhoni. He predicted rain and shorter game with ability to chase down. Also, there were lot of close calls for catches from the openers so the luck didn't help the Indian bowlers at all. Unfortunately, Dhoni's two theories failed; rain predicament and bowling first. Bouncier pitches have smaller grounds in SA ( also AUS) and this point was completely missed by Indian bowlers. They shouldn't have allowed to SA to bat risky knowing hits could fly over the ropes in small grounds.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 0:38 GMT)

some body needs to tell bhuvneshwar not to ball short pitch with his mediocre pace just focus on swing. And any indian bowler with 140 odd pace should practice yorkers to deliver them effectively in death overs. Any ways good luck india and ABD (my favorite batsman) for the next game, from Pakistan.

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 6, 2013, 0:38 GMT)

kohli scored just 30 inspite of being given a life when he was only on 2 n some indians are saying that he showed his class....

Posted by _Cover_Drive on (December 6, 2013, 0:25 GMT)

To all those ruthless Indian fans, waiting for your opinion change in the next game when India beats SA with a short margin. SA has the best record for series wins but we all know what happens to them in big tournaments.

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 0:22 GMT)

Well, this is more or less on expected lines. But there is no pint in planning for the failure by having Yuvraj and Suresh Raina in the team. Its ridiculous to say the least how Raina made Rohit run out. Atleast Rohit would have spend some time there but for Raina's anxiousness to spend time at non-striker end.

Let us take positives and play Rayudu and Rahane in place of Yuvraj and Raina and give a fight with our best foot forward irrespective of the result.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 0:21 GMT)

Pakistan have India in every way, shape and form. It is clearly evident from that rank performance.

Posted by gaalav on (December 6, 2013, 0:19 GMT)

Floyd-like edge to the word pink! I love that.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 0:19 GMT)

ok folks don't make the issue of the year caz I ain't ever see so many comments after any team losing the game but winning and losing is just part of the game and s africa turned out to be a winning team.india lost the match due to lack of preparation and adapting the new conditions u can't anticipate from any team to perform well and win the matches as we have seen in ashes how england is struggling despite being the favorites they couldn't pass 200 in both innings and I m sure india is going to turn the table around and win the series.

Posted by android_user on (December 6, 2013, 0:12 GMT)

Series not over yet. India will bounce back in next game and congratulations SA. Best of luck for the next game

Posted by Vinod_London on (December 6, 2013, 0:11 GMT)

PLEASE PLEAAE remove Yuvraj and Raina from the Indian team and let them play some domestic games for a while. Ranji trophy will be best learning experience for them both. Let the bench strength have some time in the middle. Yuvraj have lost it. !!! India can't let themselves loose matches because of him. Raina has not got a good score for a long time now. Especially when it comes to winning matches, Shikhar Rohit Kohli and Dhoni played biggest part with the bat and Jadeja with the ball.

My Indian team selection for the 2nd ODI Shikhar, Rohit, Virat, Dhoni at number 4, Ajinkya, Rayadu, Jadeja, Umesh, Shami, Bhuvnesh and Ashwin.

Yuvraj bhai, go back and get used to winning. His body language on the TV is depressing.

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 6, 2013, 0:11 GMT)

wow... the flat track kings have received a great thrashing....even Pakistan's weak batting lineup performed better than these so called 'greats' n it would be a waste of time to even talk about Indian bowlers. where are the likes of @Harmony111...who were saying that this was a flat pitch with short boundaries n that India will chase down the target....lol

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 0:10 GMT)

Hahaha best batting line up lolz

Posted by   on (December 6, 2013, 0:09 GMT)

India's bowling has always been weak. It is usually covered by great batting against somewhat weaker bowling and friendlier pitches. Against Steyn & Co, India may not even chase 300 as happened today, when the batting failed to cover the bowling lapses. The big total put pressure on Indian batters. India need to strengthen bowling. Instead of Mohit, I would rather have Zaheer Khan. Yuvraj was used as an allrounder in the World Cup. If he is not bowling, why is he in the team? Rahane or Rayudu may be better in his place. Along with Yuvraj, Raina too has weakness against fast bowling as exposed by Mitchel Johnson. So India needs to find replacement for these two batters.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 6, 2013, 0:05 GMT)

First of all, well done SA for winning well. Let's be real guys, Indian bowlers LOST this game for India. No way should have SA scored 80 odd in the last 5 overs. It was carnage thanks to some very ORDINARY bowling. Once again India's death bowling has cost them another game in ODI cricket. India's star-studded batting line up was totally overwhelmed thanks to 358 as the target. In addition, they had to contend with quality fast bowlers in Dale Steyn and Morkel on a very helpful Wanderers pitch. So this result was always on the cards. India simply don't have express bowlers. Players like Shami, Bhuvi and Mohit are okay for Indian conditions cause they rely on swing to assist them. In overseas conditions like SA and AUS, swing won't help. You need pace and height as a bowler. Sadly, India need to depend on their batting to win games on this tour. Durban will be even pacy and bouncy. India are better off winning the toss and batting first.

Posted by theCricketPurist on (December 6, 2013, 0:02 GMT)

@Shan156, Dhawan will make Philander cry? Well, we'd love to see if that can happen. You must only bite as much you can chew :p

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 6, 2013, 0:00 GMT)

Very close game. :):):)

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:58 GMT)

what happened to the heroes of subcontinent dustbowls ??

Posted by theCricketPurist on (December 5, 2013, 23:58 GMT)

First of all, this was a good win by South Africa. They did well, but there is still a lot to improve upon.

I also see a lot of Indian supporters who say they are not surprised by this result as this was only the "first game". Well, the truth is that each one of them were thinking Indian batsmen will make the score and they will brag about it. Sadly things fell apart for them.

India will have to play really well in the next 2 games to pull anything out of this series. They should definitely consider playing Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma.

It will not be surprising if BCCI threatens to boycott the tour if the next few games do not have batsmen friendly pitches ;p

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 23:54 GMT)

It's high time that the bcci must look forward to organise tours in other countries.. Playing in sa, nz, aus and England is not just easy though u are no 1 or 2.. Everyone are strong at their own backyard.. India has never won a series in South Africa.. Now that the indian players have come out from their cocoon shell.. Lets hope and pray for the best.. Take this series as a challenge India, even if we loose ensure that it won't be a big margin... Consider that the odi series has been lost basing on players adaptation, wrong selection of strokes or poor bowling and fielding etc, lets look forward to win all the tests to save our pride as no 2.. Comeon team india.. Lets keep the winning spirit going..

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 5, 2013, 23:53 GMT)

Hopefully this thrashing will wake up our selectors and team management. They need to realize that Yuvi and Raina are finished. Those 2 can't bat outside the subcontinent. Also, trundlers like Vinay Kumar, Mohit Sharma, Unadkat, etc. might work in T20, but they will get thrashed in ODI and tests. Instead, give a chance to genuine pacers like Imtiaz Ahmed, Ishwar Pandey, Pankaj Singh, etc. and pace bowling all rounders like Rishi Dhawan.

Posted by J_Lo on (December 5, 2013, 23:49 GMT)

NOT a surprise at all!!! This is quite evident whenever India plays in Aussie, England or SA.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:48 GMT)

The issue with Indian team is perspective. They need to play according to the opposition and the conditions. Ofcourse half the Indian team is still starting their careers in International cricket.....they will come good eventually.But we can not take the credit away from SA team either.They are very good team and play to their strengths. At the moment, Indian bowling is very weak. And also Indian captain should pick the team members not by nepotism, but by talent.

Posted by cjscanada on (December 5, 2013, 23:47 GMT)

Wow, that was a sound thrashing by SA. They played really well. Typical of India to go into the game without any match practice but then the A team did play in SA just a little while back. I think the way Dale bowled today anyone would have had a tough time in the initial overs. Our bowling really gave it up. Kohli really looked at sea, it is a learning experience for him on this trip but I expect Dhawan to come into his own. I will not read too much into the defeat. We have come from defeat a much stronger team but I do feel we should persist with Yuvi as he played well in SA some time back. I am not saying India is going to win but you can be assured, they will fight. I am glad the test matches are for later but the red cherry in Dale's hand is dynamite. I did not watch the SA batting but felt Dale should have been man of the match. It is difficult controlling the Indian batting if the openers take it late into the game. I feel we have a good nucleus just let the lads get some exp.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 23:35 GMT)

This goes to show that Indian players are highly over rated over paid for what they do! They are not able to deliver when it counts mainly when the supports are not around them.

Posted by Engr.Waqas.Akram on (December 5, 2013, 23:35 GMT)

India has shown best performance in home ground, but outside their country, their abilities, their performance, their ranking, is on stake and there is BIG question mark ?

Posted by AvidCricFan on (December 5, 2013, 23:31 GMT)

The woes of Indian players playing on fast wickets continue. It is BCCI to largely blame. They are jam packing domestic series purely for financial gains. The overseas series doesn't leave sufficient time for players to adapt. On the player front, Yuvi is liability on the current form. Rohit Sharma is very tentative outside the off. He will struggle on seaming wickets overseas. I would like to see Pujara inducted in the overseas ODI. His strike rate will not be much worse than Rohit Sharma's.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 23:30 GMT)

Well Indian bowling story is still the same but batting story has changed as expected cos they are not playing at home!!

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:24 GMT)

Over rated Indian team only perform well in home conditions on a flat slow track. Their lack of technique was exposed with some quality pace bowling. The footwork of the Indian batsmen was non existent. Only Dhawan timed a few strokes well, a pity he swung hard in a wild attempt at a pull shot. Would have liked to seen him score big. He seemed to time the few strokes he managed to play rather well hitting boundaries. R Sharma was not comfortable at the crease at all. When observing Amla bat his footwork was beautiful. Got into position early, never static. Shami seems the only potential bowler for India who can fill Zaheer Khans shoes that is based largely on other games i have seen. No other Indian pace bowler can shape the ball and generate seam movement like he does. Of course he needs to develop his technique still. I predict a complete whitewash by SA. This is probably why BCCI dont schedule many overseas games otherwise India's rating would be abysmal.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:20 GMT)

Pujara should have been picked for the ODI series. He can bring the stability at the top, especially overseas. Why is he being ignored, only MSD can tell. Look at Amla, even he is not a very attacking batsmen but he is giving the solidity. Indian selectors, wake up.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 23:15 GMT)

India is going to protest. Because South Africa's bowling to good for their top quality batting plus no flat tracks

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:13 GMT)

Indian's are only the best in their own country and on their own very flat batting friendly pitches where the ball goes bellow the knee.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:11 GMT)

The series is not over yet. Just wait a watch. India has capability to overcome all the odds and win this series. No doubt India has got the best batting line up but for bowling dept. We need a experienced bowler like Zaheer Khan to do the magic(Too bad he is not in the ODI team). A combination of seam and spin would work out to be the best on South African pitches

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 23:10 GMT)

Instead of giving chance to rohit sharma they might bring shewag back to the squad. They have to think for 2015 World Cup.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 23:04 GMT)

The only way india can win the rest of the matches IF somehow they can change the venues from SA to (Dehli & Kolkatta)!! what a game, Loved it!!!

Posted by BigGeorgeMehemood on (December 5, 2013, 23:03 GMT)

India dont want to accept it but the fact is they dont know how to play on bouncy wickets. They look absolutely horrible today...I would be embarrased. I never see batting like that..they were scared and did not know what to do.,especially Yuraj Singh..he look like he is lost. Even commentators on cricinfo refused to put my feedback when I mentioned to them that India look awful and frightened. They just think that they are no.1 in the world which is not true. You have to win everywhere and anywhere to be no.1.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 23:01 GMT)

Steyn's first spell was one of the best spells I've ever seen without the bowler getting a wicket. Absolutely astounding. De Kock played another stunner, hopefully continues his good vein of form and cements his place. AB, once again was faultless.

Lots of negatives for Team India, but I highly doubt any can be sorted out before the next match. We all know how woeful Indian bowling is so I'll refrain from commenting on that. Yuvraj and Raina, how are they still in the team is baffling! Kohli and Dhoni, the only bright sparks. Watching Rohit bat today was extremely amusing. He was like a tailender! The key to any Indian success still lies with Kohli and Dhoni, no doubt. Kohli leading from the top and Dhoni finishing off from the top. If either fails, its game over.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 22:51 GMT)

well played SA...they had two good series against pakistan and against some world class quality bowling,india always relay on there batsman which are all good but they arent playing in indian flat pitches which only help batsman thats why indian and aussies both chased down more than 300+ targets....so in SA the world will get to know that are indian batsman are capable enough to play on fast and bouncy bitches and against the likes of morkel and the fearsome dale stayn...the result will come on sunday ....indian bowling was and is always poor they dont have any genuine fast bowler who can bowl some fearsome spells....they will get the thrashing thats for sure and the job is for indian batsman to finish and win the matches....but remember its gonna be durban not jaipur or any other indian ground so we will be see how good indian batsman are...i am a genuine fan of indian batting but not on flat pitches on pacet and bouncy pitches.....lets hope for the best team to win

Posted by Pritt32 on (December 5, 2013, 22:51 GMT)

The batmen seem to struggle against quality South Africa pace bowling. The team have to work really hard if they are going to beat South Africa. India inexperience on outside conditions raise alarm bells. I hope the team can prove us wrong. The bowling is awful and simply not good enough at this level. Batmen have to adapt with conditions outside the sub continent. The pitches are bouncy and not flat tracks. India have to learn from this match and rectify things quickly.

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 5, 2013, 22:50 GMT)

There was a big hue and cry by Pakistan fans when runs scored passed 350 in India. No adverse comments about the pitch here despite 358 here ! Amazing! There is a huge hue and cry by Pakistan fans when India wins at home but no adverse comments here when the home team wins! Amazing! There is a big hue and cry about the pitch laid out by India to suit their strength like spin , but no comments here about South Africa laying a pitch to suit their strenght! -pace only (no spinner named in the side by SAF) There is a big hue and cry when India wins at home claiming playing on Indian pitches have little or no value but when Pakistan or other visiting team win on that very pitch in India, its a great win! Amazing!

Posted by ameen786 on (December 5, 2013, 22:40 GMT)

Dear Pak _cricfan u r right SA has advantage in this series i see them winning all the matches because they have just played the best bowling attack in the world which is Pakistan.

I see India has a weak link in bowling lin up not good as pak bowling so these fears me that india will struggle here n also in Austraila.

Posted by megaboyz2003 on (December 5, 2013, 22:36 GMT)

I am actually glad India was beaten, NOT so LONG ago in the wonderland of pune the 1st ODI vs Australia we were beaten by 72 runs everyone knows that turned around...it will be the same here...don't worry boys we will WIN it all... :)

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 22:35 GMT)

Now for the changes

Pujara comes in for Yuvi and plays at 4. Rahane comes in for Raina and plays at 5

Umesh comes in for Mohit Zaheer comes in for either Jadeja/Ashwin

Rohit, Dhawan, Bhuvi & Kohli (for no.3) can continue...but should get back on track soon Bhuvi needs to find his rhythm fast.. and bowling along side of Zaheer will help him....

My X1

Rohit Dhawan Kohli Pujara Rajane Dhoni Ashwin/Jadeja Bhuvi Zaheer Shami Umesh

If it does not cause much confusion.. I would like Pujara at No.3 if Rohit goes first, else Kohli if Dhawan gets out first... just to keep the rotation and run rate going.. But it is ok for Kohli to come at No.3 regardless... its not like we will finish the match with just one wicket down...

Posted by SyBorgg71 on (December 5, 2013, 22:34 GMT)

I apologise to any Indian cricket fans for the statement that I am about to make...I hope every result on this tour is as big a hiding as the one received today. The BCCI disgusts me with their bullying tactics. CSA should have refused to accept this shortened tour and rather invited Kenya and Ireland for a triangular series and donated the proceeds to the respective unions. Any fan saying that it was to be expected as India had just landed and it's the first game...blame your beloved BCCI for forcing this schedule.

Posted by malepas on (December 5, 2013, 22:34 GMT)

First of all, I must congrat to India for reaching 200,,I was expecting below 150,,but they couldn't touch the ball most of the time so survived. I think we can also forgive Hafeez for keep getting out by Steyn, looking how "Great" Rohit and Kohli played him or couldn't play him,,you can put things in perspective that how SA and PAK has the best bowling attacks in world, as both teams batting was struggling against each other and fans of flat tracks bullies were smarting up to think that their batter will batter them just like they did against Aussies, how wrong they were,,Now we know why BCCI slash the tour in fear of thrashing by making different excuses. PPL r making excuses for India not having any prep game,,PAK didn't had any prep game recently and they came straight from UAE,,and it is BCCI who shorten the tour not SA so why moan??

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 22:29 GMT)

Now taking emotion and sentiment aside...If I sit back and think, I would make the following changes for the next game...

Initially I thought Pujara, Rahane, Zahir and Umesh need to play the next two ODIs to get some match practice.... but looks like now it is not an option but is mandatory...

And please do not expect them to set things blazing right away...

If you pick players like Raina, Yuvi for 4 & 5, who have issues with short ball even in sub-continent conditions.. how would you expect them to fare in SA... And again for the 100th time, Ashwin & Jadeja cannot play in the same ODI or TEST team, away from India...

We need a specialist bowler in one of their place... some one even less skillfull, but who can just focus on one thing...his bowling

Posted by sysubrceq0 on (December 5, 2013, 22:28 GMT)

It happens in Sports you lose some and win some, When SA visited last time - India dished out massive thrashing to SA http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/441828.html . India need to grab those half chances provided by Amla and de Kock and bowling needs to pick up and play confidently next game.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 22:24 GMT)

Everything went as expected.... Just that things fell in the right place for SA than they had hoped for and did not go really well with IND.

Otherwise, it could have been SA posting a 270ish total and India faltering around 230ish....

That was my best case scenario when I began the day..

Posted by Guduji71 on (December 5, 2013, 22:22 GMT)

I think it should be a lesson for BCCI. They organise too many home series on dead and flat Indian pitches. It is hurting India as a matter of fact. They play like champions at home and seem ordinary in Australia, South Africa or even in New Zealand. I personally think Indian team should play more outside the subcontinent to give more exposure to their batsman and the bowlers. Pakistan has been playing away from home for last few years and I believe it has assisted them, the recent result in SA is an evidence. I know initially the ranking will go down but this would be an investment for future. I think they should play more against Pakistan who has best bowling attack in Subcontinent at least to get exposure against fast bowling and excellent spin bowling.

Posted by dunger.bob on (December 5, 2013, 22:19 GMT)

Beautiful to watch. Keep up the great work South Africa.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 22:17 GMT)

@auzdruck

At 5 down... if AB got Steyn and Morkel... the game would have been over by the 30th over....

I did not understand why did not.. may be they need the TV ads to go a little longer for revenue considerations...?

Posted by MiddleStump on (December 5, 2013, 22:12 GMT)

I am least surprised. If India improve (and that is a big if), they can make the remaining games close and may be win one. No chance to win in the tests. Their pace attack is laughable and there will be no spinner friendly wickets. They cannot defend even 300 runs with this set of bowlers. Kumar at 120K, Mohit at 125K, and Shami at 135K did not worry anybody with their speed. India will be better off playing Yadav and Ishant who can bowl a few at 140K even though their accuracy is questionable. Welcome to the real world India. It won't be a whole lot different in the World Cup in Australia next year either.

Posted by fguy on (December 5, 2013, 22:09 GMT)

thats the only way SA can win - with the help of doctored pitches. Green Track Bullies. thats why they havent won a single World title bcoz without the help from a juicy pitch their bowlers become toothless

even against Pak (in previous series) where there was no help from the pitches they lost

5 ball overs & Ashwin dismissal showed incompetency of the local umpire. that & the number of huge no balls by the SA bowlers that were "overlooked" shows that you need neutral umpires at both ends

Posted by zeefarooqi on (December 5, 2013, 22:07 GMT)

Indian Team is weakest bowlong side ...i already know the result if they remain idiotoc in their bowling...i m surprize India is a huge country...and they dont have even a single bowler who pass just 90 miles of speed...BCCI has to focus on young bowling guns...they need to groom from teenage...other wise

Posted by uvasStraightDrive on (December 5, 2013, 22:05 GMT)

All congrats to SA, AB D and co really played India as if they were up against India A or B team.

Indian Team did not look balanced in this game at all. They need three major changes to suit the conditions

1) Pujara at #4 for Yuvraj. 2) Rahane at #5 for Raina 3) Yadav for Mohit

Then you will see some good results. At least give these guys a chance to prove their metal.

But following Dhoni's captaincy through the years, he will not change the batting line up though Yadav for Mohit is the only likely change coming.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 21:59 GMT)

India has no bowler in the team. They have batting team .make around 300 runs .if they not make big total their bowler cannot save the match .so the team without bowlers.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:58 GMT)

S. Africa is an excellent cricket team and India is so over rated !

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:58 GMT)

India need to up their death bowling. The top 5 or six batsmen are good. Jadeja is not very effective in the conditions so I say go with Umesh,Ishant,Mohit,and Shami for pace and Ashwin and Raina for spin. Dhoni did well in this match and the pace was too strong for India. With this team, bowl first. Shami and Ishant in the front. Mohit can come in the end. Umesh 1st change, Ashwin 2nd, and Mohit 3rd. India need to work in the nets.

Posted by thiruven on (December 5, 2013, 21:58 GMT)

In my earlier comments, I did mention that Rohit Sharma's talent is being propped by mumbai based commentators. He will be another Wasim Jaffer. Flat track bullies is a term often coined and Rohit, Raina and Yuvraj are just that. Virat is brilliant and MSD is class above rest. Ashwin's batting performance is going unrewarded and could move up (Elephant is in the room; why look for ants across the mountains).

Time to bring on potential talent to replace proven failures.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:49 GMT)

This Indian team won champions trophy on hostile conditions. I think the toss was crucial. Dhoni should have batted first. Never the less what a captain can do if you have to chase 350 odd runs every now and then. Dhoni wasnt expecting this big score. But SA batted really well and gave plenty of runs for their bowlers to defend. Let's see if this Indian team can bounce back. They should have had some matches in Cape town which did suit Pakistan team and would have been the easiest of other grounds for Indian team. I was expecting Yuvraj to fire as he is a senior player.

Posted by zeefarooqi on (December 5, 2013, 21:49 GMT)

welcome India to SA....Real world of Cricket

Posted by Testcricketistop on (December 5, 2013, 21:45 GMT)

Some of you are too harsh on India. Their bowlers struggled with ther lengths at Wanderers which would alwyas have been a problem if it is the first time you bowl in our conditions.

Amla, De Villiers, Duminy and De Kock was simply on fire today and the good start meant our middle order could play with total freedom.

Not much you can do about that especially when everything just went for them on the day.

Steyn and Morkel were simply brilliant on the day, and I don't think it would have mattered who batted against those two today, they would have struggled as well.

Most kf the Indian batsmen did get a bit kf a start, Dhoni was class as you would expect fromthe Indian captain. They will all be better come Sunday in Durban where SA in particular has struggled over the past number of years.

Just a note on Dhoni, he is a class captain, his post match talk with Mike Haysman was intelligent and well spoken.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:44 GMT)

India is only food on indian surface. All flat wicket batsman.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:43 GMT)

All these years of suffering outside the subcontinent without a fast bowler has taught India nothing. Complete waste of an abundance of talent within the country.

Posted by THE_MIZ on (December 5, 2013, 21:41 GMT)

Lol at all the Indian fans who were claiming that this was a flat track earlier on...Now reading the excuses once SA's pace battery made the ball swing, seam and bounce As for the "small boundaries", I wonder why the indians couldn't clear it themselves...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:39 GMT)

where are those peoples saying india will white wash south africa after pakistan lose only the last match i saw so many people claiming india will win 3-0 to SA but i am sure i will go other way round lol

Posted by JasonWoodsworth on (December 5, 2013, 21:39 GMT)

lol, kohli was dropped yet he still got out cheaply for 31. just shows, how ordinary this fella is. scored most of his runs on flat wickets anyway. india inflates their averages by playing easy team, on small grounds and flat wickets.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 21:39 GMT)

I dont think there is any problem with wicket.indians play their 80% matches home.they r used to it.small grounds flat pitched suits them.they can never win against quality bowling..thats bitter truth

Posted by THE_MIZ on (December 5, 2013, 21:37 GMT)

@Shan, "Dhawan who is going to make Philander cry." Like the poms made Philander cry, right? Lol

Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (December 5, 2013, 21:37 GMT)

Well done Proteas, put India to the sword. I'm sure the visitors will improve but it has become a tradition to thrash them in SA. I cannot foresee a break with tradition...

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 21:35 GMT)

does it look like no 1 team?? sorry but I rate indian team 3rd or 4th..south africa,england and pakistan are better sides than india

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:34 GMT)

i feel sorry with my Indian friends but it is true that indans are very good on bating paradise.. dead bowling pitches... it was 2 T20 7 ODIs and 3 Test Matches series but BCCI knew their players capability thats why they short this trip... 3 ODI and 2 Test.. anyhow Dhoni is a great player and a captain.. he made some wrong decision today like shami didn't open new ball.. and giving chance to Raina....

BCCI allow your players to play out of INDIA..... real cricket where boundaries are standard not tooooooooooooo short..

Posted by Uppercut07 on (December 5, 2013, 21:34 GMT)

the home flat track champs finally brought back to earth LOL. told this was gonna happen long time ago. WC2011 was won only 'cus of dew and Champions Trophy 2013 was won due the FLAT pitches produced in ENGLAND LOL, this is more proof indians are nothing more than FLAT TRACK BULLIES. what happened to the golden boy VIRAT KOHLI????? IT AIN' THE SAME AS CHASING 300+ ON HIGHWAYS, is it?

Posted by tao585 on (December 5, 2013, 21:33 GMT)

I was quite impressed with Rohit Sharma. He combines patience of Sunil Gavaskar and aggression of Kapil Dev, any other batsman would have got edgy for not scoring for the first 16 balls, but he stayed and only a Run Out could get him out. I prefer him over Rohit Kohli

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:32 GMT)

Can anyone explain how ODI ranking(any ranking) system work. Usually every loss of upstream team reduce by two points whereas after this match I noticed India lost one point only. Just curious..

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 21:31 GMT)

It's a real test for Indian batsmen now. For 2 years they had feasted on flat wickets and home condition. Now two years of touring. This will tell the real story. But as a cricket fan I was blessed by God to watch Dale Steyn. Although I'm Indian I supported Steyn and Morkel. Was laughing when Steyn was making rohit dance to his bowling tunes.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 21:28 GMT)

This is so called strongest batting' if they play all their matches abroad as pak doing they will be at number 9 after bangladesh' flat track bulls

Posted by fsdb on (December 5, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

Easy pickings for SA - same old story - yawn!

Posted by fayyaz03 on (December 5, 2013, 21:25 GMT)

Sorry Indian fans! But this so called no. 1 ODI team is hopeless! After winning the WC back in 2011 when they toured England, they could not win a single match and nothing has been changed till date. They will keep winning with respectable margins at home and keep losing outside Asia very badly. The reason is simple. The administration has more interest in money building projects than the real cricket. Forget about the test series, they will definately be whitewashed! But even in the one dayers just look their problems! Worst death bowling, Shaky Middle Order, Epic short ball problems, Inclusion of Ashwin and exclusion of Pujara for no reason, childish behaviour on the field & Captain's arrogance to bat down the order! PATHETIC PERFORMANCE!

Posted by SLDude on (December 5, 2013, 21:24 GMT)

Lots of people criticise that Indian team ( Yes Wide No Wide Team ) as flat track bullies. Last ODI series in India, they did score over 300+ in all 5 matches against Australia couple of month ago. So World no 1 flat track bullies ODI team should play cricket only in India.

Posted by SLDude on (December 5, 2013, 21:24 GMT)

Lots of people criticise that Indian team ( Yes Wide No Wide Team ) as flat track bullies. Last ODI series in India, they did score over 300+ in all 5 matches against Australia couple of month ago. So World no 1 flat track bullies ODI team should play cricket only in India.

Posted by JasonWoodsworth on (December 5, 2013, 21:20 GMT)

Lol, at the Indian players. They clearly had no idea, how to deal with the pace and bounce. Just shows, how ordinary the team is. India should invite Kenya for a series and prepare flat wickets. That way, they can continue to score double centuries. haha.

Posted by AH_USA on (December 5, 2013, 21:19 GMT)

What is the reason that MSD did not bat at #4 today? He knew that the target was quite big. He also knew that he was one of the inform batsmen and therefore, it would have given him plenty of time to come at #4, settle down and then go for the onslaught. But as usual, he stuck with his #6 spot for his own reasons. Any takers from India for this question here? Not that it should matter, I am a Pakistani fan in case someone wants to know.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 5, 2013, 21:19 GMT)

@ gsingh7 posted during the Indian innings "tough start but we must remember india is only side to chase 350 twice in last few months. kohli is on a roll and expecting big hundred from him. a blistering fifty from raina or yuvi and 360 will be within reach. #believe"

Nice call there! Kholi was not on a roll - he got rolled. Yuvi lasted all of 2 balls, & Raina became ran-out. First he ran out Rohit - who did not look at all disappointed about it, but rather relieved in fact - and then he ran out himself after posting a blistering 14 off 20 balls.

#believe in Dhoni - he is the real thing. The rest, don't get your hopes up.

Posted by Nampally on (December 5, 2013, 21:17 GMT)

India appeared to have lost their way & were totally outplayed in all departments of the game. Inexplicably Dhoni started with M.Sharma to open the bowling instead of Shami, their ace. A couple of dropped catches & a missed Runout didn't help. The result was a huge opening stand which sealed India's fate. Apart from Shami & Ashwin, to some extent, Indian bowling was very poor. More experienced Yadev would have fared better with >140 KPH pace. Indian bowling was torn to shreds with 13 sixers & 34 boundaries! Add to this misery, Indian batting had no sheet anchor. Yuvraj has consistently played like a rabbit Vs. pace bowling. India has to get real, set personalities aside & get a proper #4 like Pujara- not in the squad- or Rahane or Rayudu both in the squad.It is the blunt truth! Unfortunately Dhawan & Kohli both failed & Rohit was all at sea trying to negotiate SA seamers. Only Dhoni & Jadeja & Ashwin looked like scoring but instead they failed to stay with Dhoni to complete the job!

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 21:11 GMT)

leave Indian batsman alone.I think they have to adapt African pitches.But I think they play ok when it matters most like in knockouts.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 21:10 GMT)

Hi there.indian team just good play in your home country otherwise indian team just play like kids club.such as today match.

Posted by AjaySridharan on (December 5, 2013, 21:10 GMT)

Bad team selection to begin with. How Yuvraj got the nod ahead of Pujara? Why was Mohit played ahead of Umesh? I think Indian lost the game though thanks to Rohit's terrible display of batting. One of the worst by an opening batsman in recent memory. He is billed to be the next best thing in Indian batting and this is what he comes up with? He was scared, nervous and put himself ahead of the team. If I was the captain I'd sack him for the next game just for that attitude. Dhawan is a left-handed Sehwag...unlucky he top-edged the hook, he was connecting well otherwise. Reality check delivered. Thanks it didn't become a close game. Dhoni would have brushed things under the carpet. Now he has nowhere to hide.

Posted by JasonWoodsworth on (December 5, 2013, 21:08 GMT)

Indian team is rubbish. So much hoopla around their batting, and they get intimated like that. India should stay at home and keep playing concrete pitches.

Posted by ilililililililililililililx on (December 5, 2013, 21:07 GMT)

India may have the 'powerhouse' batting in the subcontinent but in South Africa they looked worse than Pakistan's batting lineup. India's bowler are pathetic anywhere they play. Why does this not surprise me

Posted by jokerbala on (December 5, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

The best Indians can do is use these ODI as prep matches for the tests. Realistically there is a very slim chance of getting wins in this ODI series unless we see flat pitches. Jadeja/Ashwin are allrounders for Indian conditions why do you need them both in South Africa. Play either one and get in Rishi Dhawan or a medium pacer in the side as an all rounder in foriegn conditions. Fletcher is an over rated coach , he needs to put his foot down in selection if he has to make some impact.Dhoni always uses his CSK mates Ashwin, Jadeja Raina, Mohit in the team .They may be good but the conditions also should dictate selection to some extent.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

The same South African batting was struggling to score 250 a week back? incompetent Indian bowling.. or outstanding Pakistani Attack.. not sure?

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 21:05 GMT)

Its quite common to see home team winning the game. Every team is powerful on their soil in the same way SA is always favorite on their grounds, I'm sure India will bounce back into the game only thing that worried me is the batting side looked more uncomfortable that is due to lack of practice before the game, The power house of them is batting so they need to spend their time on ground before the game And for the people who comment on Indian team I just ask them to go back to days when SA came to IND tour that implies home team is always favorites so don't underestimate IND.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 21:03 GMT)

So call cricket "pundits" were saying rohit sharma might be able to break sachin records...please dont embarrass sachin by comparing him to rohit...sachin played against the top fast bowlers all around the world and scored runs...mr. rohit couldnt even handle steyn who happens to be only top fast bowler these days..i guess that sums up everything...they are only good at their home conditions on flat track against decent/mediocre bowlers...good day

Posted by vrkp on (December 5, 2013, 21:01 GMT)

For today's loss, the blame should fall squarely on the bowlers and to small extent on dhoni the captain for not choosing yadav and not opening with shami. The two run outs plus ashwin unlucky dismissal didn't help either. I think the batsmen were OK except for UV.

Also, I would like to see ashwin batting before jadeja.

Dhoni shd swallow the pride and call for pujara. Rahane is overhyped. He is as bad as rains when facing high class pacers. My xi for the next match wud be Rohit, dhawan, kohli, rayudu, ashwin, dhoni, raina, jadeja, bhuvi, shami,yadav

Posted by Sanoop_r on (December 5, 2013, 21:00 GMT)

One loss and out come the India bashers. Chill people, every champion team has a bad day at office once in a while. As a true supporter, what you guys have to hope for is an improved performance in the next game. And as for people calling the Indians as Flat Track bullies, do the batsmen from other countries have difficulties in playing on a Flat Track? It's like saying, I drive very well on a rainy day but I just can't drive on a sunny pleasant day! Please support the team in their lows and not just the highs people! Our bowlers will find their length, bounce and speeds in the next match. And our recent performance in SA has not always been bad. Remember the 2003 WC and the 2007 20/20 WC and we lost 3-2 last time. Mark my words, see an improved performance from our team in the next match.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:58 GMT)

Can't help but laugh. A few days ago Indians were talking trash about PAK vs SA series and how they will crush SA. Pakistan won that series and if not for the lack of motivation and trying new blood in the last match, might have whitewashed SA. Now let's see if Indians can avoid a whitewash here. I highly doubt it but good luck India, at least put up a fight to make the contest interesting.

Posted by happy-go-lucky on (December 5, 2013, 20:56 GMT)

@Harmony111:

Shikhar got out because he couldn't handle extra bounce. Kohli got done by swing. Yuvi got rattle by the bouncer and was late in the 2nd ball. Rohit got out due to scoreboard pressure. Again couldn't handle Steyn's pace and swing. To be fair to him, any batsman would have struggled against Steyn's initial spell.

Basically on these green swingy tracks, they are clearly the better side with both bat and ball. Their batter dominated our bowlers and their bowlers dominated our batters.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (December 5, 2013, 20:55 GMT)

Congratulations to SA on a WHOPPING victory. In a way this loss is good for India. Indian fans should not be upset about it. We lost fair and square thanks to QUALITY fast bowling from Steyn and Co. It also proves our bowling is NOT good enough overseas. We don't have bowlers who can bowl with venom. We rely on swing and that ain't gonna help us in SA and AUS. Our batting got overwhelmed due to the target of 358. I still feel we could have won if SA set us something like 250-260. So it was our bowlers who let us down. For the next game, I will bring in Umesh Yadav and Ishant Sharma in place of Mohit and Bhuvi. Yes Ishant Sharma ! His height and pace will be ideal for these conditions; Umesh has pace and is the same build as Steyn. It may not be a potent combination but it would definitely be a step towards the right direction. The Kingsmead pitch will bounce even more and it's a day game too. IF we are to win ANYTHING on this tour, the bowlers need to step up. Good luck.

Posted by RK204 on (December 5, 2013, 20:54 GMT)

OH!! Come on guys.. This is the fact actually.. If SF can't win their home series then what ! It's not that IND was lost against NEPAL in nepal.. Pls give them (SA) the respect and learn how to accept ur weakness(playing genuine fast bowlers on proper pitches).. SO chill

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:53 GMT)

thats all folks....indians will be missing home condition....Accept it indians are just homemade champions not real world champion....

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 5, 2013, 20:52 GMT)

@ Harmony111 wrote "India have barely landed in SA, have had no practice matches & now that they lost, some ppl are using this loss as a proof of something."

Yes. It is clear proof that India got absolutely hammered after arriving in SA & having no practice matches. (If they get hammered in the next match, the practice match excuse goes away.) In the meantime, please remember that if India had kept the original schedule they would have had practice matches. SA did not deny them any practice. It was that critically important home series against WI that denied them practice, was it not? Their practice schedule in SA was planned 5 years ago - they just didn't turn up on time!

Besides, most of the team played in SA & Zimbabwe recently. It's not exactly like they landed on Mars. And, tons and tons of practice in SA won't make military medium pacers any quicker, will it? Will lots of practice stop Dhoni picking 2 spinners in a seamer's track? No. Poor excuse, let's hear another!

Posted by soaf on (December 5, 2013, 20:51 GMT)

i think ICC should have a close look at their ranking system .how can a minnow like INDIA is sitting on number 2 position? i think both SL and PAK is better than this overrated side which is a minnow in reality and loves to play cricket on their home turf and runs away for a hiding when playing overseas.i think SL is the most talented nation in subcontinent followed by PAK when you compare the size and population of these two countries with this GIANT MINNOW.

Posted by BigINDFan on (December 5, 2013, 20:51 GMT)

Honestly who cares if SA trounces Ind in their backyard. Let SA win a multi-nation ODI tournament before talking about flat track bullies and their wonderful team. I am the first one to agree the ICC rankings are no indicator to quality of teams but Ind proved that they can compete abroad by winning the champions trophy.

SA will lose the 2015 WC in Aus because their batsmen will fall apart except ABD.

Ind will lose if they do not train their bowlers.They need a bowling coach like Akram or McGrath to teach them consistency and how to bowl yorkers. Also Ind need to find proper spinners. Ashwin is not performing and needs to go. Jadeja can get 1-2 wickets at crucial stages.

Steyn vs Rohit was fascinating but Rohit will improve. But no one can save Ind if Bhuvi, Mohit and Shami bowl like they did in the last few overs.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:47 GMT)

Phew..what a hiding that was. Patriotic fervour aside, indian batters are truly flat track heroes who lose their powers on bowler friendly pitches. It was amusing and at the same time deflating watching Rohit bat and Mohit bowl. Hapless bowling effort eventually cost India the game else they were managing Ok in terms of chase in general upto some point ignoring all the hops and hoops.. Full marks to SA. Top notch effort all around..

Posted by Riz000 on (December 5, 2013, 20:47 GMT)

I thought indians had the best batting line up?? well i guess its only pak who can beat Sa in south africa indian batsmans are flat track bully and today's game has proved it by a margin

Posted by m6owner on (December 5, 2013, 20:46 GMT)

BCCI is buying records for their players and not letting them break them. This the same Indian team that was consistently chasing 350 plus targets on dead Indian pitches with the shortest boundaries? The bowling was a struggle all along so no big surprise there.

No matter what, it's only the lack of professionalism that brings the downfall of Pakistan cricket. Even then the bowling still remains top notch. On the other hand Indian board and media keep their team's ego inflated by giving them dead pitches and 50 meter boundaries. South Africa struggled to cross more than 200 on most occassions. As a fan of cricket my criticism on BCCI is to save cricket and not destroy it for commercial reasons. I actually sympathize with the Indian team because they are the ones who are exploited.

Posted by AB_DeVilliers on (December 5, 2013, 20:45 GMT)

Welcome to South Africa, India. I recall all those comments saying this Indian batting line-up will give it to SA. Well, if this is your idea of giving it to us then I'll have some more of that please: Sharma looked like a club cricketer, Dhawan out to first short ball, Kholi should have been out to first short ball, Yuvraj the less said the better, Raina jumping around like a chicken, Dhoni was class but no pressure as game was long gone. Let's not even start with the bowling. Poor no.1 team, sorry.

Posted by Leggie on (December 5, 2013, 20:38 GMT)

It's a drubbing, but one can only sympathize with the Indian team. It's NOT POSSIBLE AT ALL to land up 3 days before a series and start playing a one day international!!! It takes time to adjust, and they didn't have it before this match. They need to forget the drubbing, take forward the lessons and look at this ODI as a good practice match. If I were the coach, I would see the following as lessons learnt: a) Indian pacers must use the short stuff. I didn't see the match live, but seeing the text commentary, looks like the seamers never tried bowling bouncers b) Dale Steyn must be given respect, but 3 overs 3 maidens is not an acceptable. Indians have to learn to be positive even against Steyn c) Indians have to chew pride.., accept that Yuvraj's selection is a poor one, and bring it Rayudu or Rahane or Ashwin at that position. Will look forward to seeing a better performance from them in the next 2 matches and silence the critics.

Posted by Greecedevil on (December 5, 2013, 20:37 GMT)

India missing flat tracks and small grounds!!

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 20:36 GMT)

well well well I knew SA will come hard at India but never did I think abt this sort of thrashing. some of the team selection was mine boggling. what damage has been caused to India's confidence remains to be seen. I dunt expect them to win this series unless Bcci exports one of the flat decks from Bangalore or Calcutta. pathetic performance by so called No 1 side. I m so disappointed

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:35 GMT)

SA got a huge advantage by facing a world class bowling attach(Pak) just before this series. India's attack was club cricket and they got clubbed, rightly so.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

India no doubt has the best of batting side in current times but the blow caused by SA is nothing short of exposing the reality and every one at home would be justified to think...Indians are only best at home. Considering Indians flat performance today Pakistan team needs applause for their courageous output in SA..

Posted by seantells on (December 5, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

Indian fans nothing to mourn here, this is normal when IND out of their comfort zone they get flustered.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 5, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

@Harmony111. well said mate. Its too much to ask them to chase at 7 an over in a bouncy wicket. We should have provided them a flat track. Looks like your world class young batters are struggling to put bat on ball in green wickets. Kohli was lucky to score 34 today. He should thank De kock for dropping that catch. He is a walking wicket against quality fast bowling. Pakistan's Junaid Khan exposed him last year and now we are exposing him one more time.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 20:34 GMT)

Its funny how everybody built the hype as to India were unbeatable and their batting is so strong. Yes they are good at home on there flat pitches but I always new that let them come up on a pacy bouncy track they will struggle. people were saying pakistan struggled. well to put the facts right they caused south Africa problems. They bowled well they also batted well. I think India should play pakistan to determine if pakistan bowling is more superior or Indian batting. This series should be played on a pacy bouncy wicket. Kam

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

When we don't get enough practice games this is what happens. Thank you, BCCI. And we definitely need taller bowlers like Ishant/Umesh for the next game. This is ridiculous.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

Pathetic performance from the Indians plus team selection was also poor. Just don't understand the reason of going with Raina and Yuvi in the batting lineup as everyone knows that they are terribly out of form and also not amoung runs. Ambati Rayudu is waiting on the bench just give him a go.

Also another thing to be pointed out is that you just can't win the match with your batting. Bowling has to do something perticularly of you are playing away (tracks in India are totally batting friendly is an exceptional case). Let me remind you that this is the same place where Pakistan defended 200 odd runs two weeks before as Pakistan have a quality bowling lineup.

Last thing I wanna say is that you just can't compare Jadeja and Ashwin with the likes of Hafeez, Ajmal and Afridi. This is the the wrongest perception I have seen from the Indians.

Work hard, think over your mistakes and comeback with strong mindset.

*Good Luck*

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

Four big problems for India: Death bowling, Yuvraj, Raina, Rohit Sharma.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

India should play with this team in Next Match: 1. Rohit 2. Dhawan 3. Rahane 4. Kohli 5. Rayudu 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja (it would have been better if Rishi Dhawan would have selected on this tour) 8. Bhuvi 9. Shami 10. Ishant 11. Umesh.

Posted by Herath-UK on (December 5, 2013, 20:30 GMT)

It does not surprise many Kohli & co performance outside their backyard. They have to showcase their worth to justify their billing.Ind SA & pak have been playing round the clock matches recently & Sl will struggle in their contest without much practice. Ranil Herath - Kent

Posted by Shan156 on (December 5, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa, yet this is the same team with a popgun attack that is ranked so highly in ODIs that SA can only dream to get there. Fact: India is ranked #1, SA #5 (below England which is not a good ODI side). Fact: India have won 4 series on the trot including the ICCCT. SA have lost their last 4 home series against the top teams including Eng. and NZ. Fact: India has won 2 WCs, 2 ICCCTs, and one T20 WC, SA have won 1 ICCCT and that's about it. With such a "great" attack, why aren't you able to consistently win in ODIs? Yet, India with a "popgun" attack has managed to do that. Indian batting is streets ahead of SA. You can have your Amlas and do Kocks. They are not a patch on Kohli or Dhawan or Dhoni.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

it was expected-nothing surprise for me coz I know the strenth of indian bowelers as well the batsman who dumps hundrads on home pitches and become expose on bounsy tracks-ghar kay shair tag is beeing true as after this type of display-bcci should send the team earlier to have some warm ups-but they are just lookibg for money game-feeling sad to see what happening with real talents

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:28 GMT)

Well played South Africa . Win lose part of game. Indian fans give sometime to your time. To early to talk about selection . Its just one game . Two to come.

Posted by Midonoff on (December 5, 2013, 20:28 GMT)

Welcome to playing outside India again, team India. The playing outside India syndrome continues, it's such a shame with such batting lineup. I think India ranking in world cricket is based on home form rather than both. Hope they put up a better fight than today in next match.

Posted by Ibanezfan on (December 5, 2013, 20:26 GMT)

First off, wrong selection by India. The lack of preparation is obvious. Yuvraj AND Raina in the team in the same match in South Africa?! Neither merits a place as a batsman on overseas tours. They just do not have the skills required at this level. Watch the replay of Yuvraj fending off Ryan McLaren's short ball. For a batsman of his experience and supposed abilities, that was absolutely awful. It's like the pre-Dravid era all over again. So much fear in these batsmen the moment the ball is fast & short. There's no excuse for the top ranked team being bundled out for 217. That said, it is the bowling that's letting down India and will probably lose this series. WTH was that?! It's like they were bowling in India! The sheer difference in the quality of bowling between the two sides was stunning. Are we supposed to believe these are best pace bowlers in India?! Hey BCCI, just hire Wasim Akram already. Send him around the country to search out real pace bowlers and train them.

Posted by BravesBattallionXI on (December 5, 2013, 20:22 GMT)

Its not dead indian run making wickets. What happened to Kohli, Raina, Dhawan and the rest...... all fall prey to quality bowling the same way they got exposed to Pakistani bowling in the lost home series. Truly, most of the indian batsmen are overrated and genuinely flat wicket players.

Posted by Cric_fever_forever on (December 5, 2013, 20:21 GMT)

great start by boys in pink. wishing them best of luck hope they finish the job in next game. a nuetral fan and cricket lover here .cheers

Posted by ashfsk on (December 5, 2013, 20:19 GMT)

there you go..one loss and people start trashing the team. Last week these guys were playing in India on flat pitches and now they are playing on quick n bouncy tracks. You really cant expect them to play as well as they did at home without even giving them time to get used to the conditions. Every tour out of the subcontinent should have atleast 2 practice matches and the team should be given 10 days to get used to the conditions. Im disappointed but Im not gonna bash team India. I can see most of the folks here have been waiting for this opportunity to pounce on team India.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:17 GMT)

Three series in a year played between Pakistan and SA had two best bowling attacks in the world which was also evident by constant batting failures of both teams even though Pakistan batting has always been considered a weak point. Point is SA batting has played quality spin and good fast bowling recently which is the best practice against the Indian team who will struggle against SA pace bowlers on these pitches.

Posted by angel19 on (December 5, 2013, 20:16 GMT)

@Harmony111

in that match they also scored 309 runs take that mate

Posted by BigINDFan on (December 5, 2013, 20:14 GMT)

SA got what they were hoping by giving Ind a harsh welcome. The loss was not a surprise but the manner of it was. No one expected the Ind bowlers to bowl so badly but the reality is there should have been at least 1 practice match for the visitors to settle. BCCI does not care about the results of these matches neither does MSD. If they did they would have planned this tour properly.

SA is always good in bi-lateral series but choke in international competitions. To say they are world beaters is premature. After all they lost 1-2 to Pak recently. Ind can bounce back through their batsmen in this series. But their bowlers need to show up and it may not be a bad idea to include Yadav in the team ahead of Mohit Sharma.

Also Ind should bat first and not chase in SA. The wickets are fast and bouncy which means set a total and try defending it. Even if they lose doing that the margin of defeat will be less and they will learn how to defend totals.

Posted by diehardINDIANcricketfan on (December 5, 2013, 20:13 GMT)

okay now come on.. Its just an upset :P

Posted by PAK_CricFan on (December 5, 2013, 20:13 GMT)

Big win after SA Vs PAK series as they're undone by quality(spin & seam) bowling attack but at the same time PAK bilateral series help the SA batsmen a great deal as they played them in UAE and SA conditions which has sharpen their batting skills even more and gave them confidence to bat more freely against Indian bowling. Now MS Dhoni with this Indian bowling attack i dont think so they can be much of a threat of all round & inform SA batting unless until one or couple good bowling performances can hold SA batting line as PAK bowlers did in recently concluded series otherwise SA batting looks by far the best batting lineup in batting or bowling friendly conditions.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 5, 2013, 20:12 GMT)

@NixNixon, You pick Kallis over Kohli in ODIs? You are having a laugh, aren't you? Kohli is the best ODI batsman in the world right now along with Dhoni. No one comes close, not even Amla. Ask any SA batsman to chase 329 in around 36 overs in away conditions against Malinga and co. and they will fall short more than halfway. Did you even watch Kohli battering the Aussie bowlers barely a month before?

In tests, I agree, Kallis is far better but Kohli is still young and his best is yet to come. That is the scary thing for all opposition.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:12 GMT)

Anyone saying Rohit was set was perhaps watching something else or did not watch the game at al.Neither was Kohli .Took hisc hances till 30 perhaps India culd hv been shot out at 130.This wasnt a best bowling performance by any stretch ,so things are going to be uphilll from now.

Posted by edgie on (December 5, 2013, 20:12 GMT)

@kr_kinshuk, south Africa are better than India, deal with it!!!

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 5, 2013, 20:10 GMT)

This thorough thrashing showed that, apart from the excellent Shami, India's pace bowling is toothless, & their so-called powerhouse batting can only post runs on a flat track - any movement & they are clueless. Only the brilliant MS Dhoni showed that he can survive & score off real pace on a live wicket. But, even Captain Cool can't carry a whole team - welcome to reality, #1.

SA's batting looks much improved with de Kock opening. He & Amla finally set a platform that allowed de Villiers & Duminy to attack the bowling without worry, & the result showed. A lot of work remains to solidify the order, but this looked like the old SA ODI team, before Kirsten tore it apart.

SA's bowling still lacks discipline: Parnell should never be picked ahead of Philander, whose control WILL make the difference in a tight game. Steyn & Morkel were incisive - McLaren loose but effective, Tstsobe erratic & Parnell simply expensive.

SA's ODI recovery continues. India are exposed as paper tigers.

Posted by GulrezAlam on (December 5, 2013, 20:10 GMT)

Dhoni must replace yuvi.His time to go. death bowling is really pathetic since a long time.india should play with one spinner like jadeja and replaces ashwin with a pacer like Umesh Yadav in these conditions.

Posted by rayinto on (December 5, 2013, 20:09 GMT)

Looks like India can only score big at home?

Posted by SHANEDAPPAL on (December 5, 2013, 20:09 GMT)

indian team have enough talent but they are not using it if india want to win the next game the playing XI will be

1 - RAHANE- 2 DAWAN 3-KOHLI 4 -ROHIT- 5 -RAINA-(RAYIDU) 6-DHONI- 7- JADEJA 8-BUVI- 9 SHAMI- 10 UMESH- 11 ISHANTH

yuvi lost his batting talent as well as fielding and no more bowling he is utter waste

in this team there is 6 batsman 1 all rounder 4 bowlers, there is 2 140+ bowlers (UMESH AND SHAMI) and 1 135+ ishanth (may be some guys have a question mark why ishanth guyz he is experienced and he will expo lid the condition in SA and bhuvi a real swing bowler and 2 part timers (raina and rohit) u can also use kohli and rahene

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (December 5, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

Well played by SA! Awesome all round batting, bowling and fielding by them. India are historically poor travellers. This first match has repeated history. They are on the road overseas for the next few months. Foreign teams plan for their trips to India, but rarely translate those plans into actions to achieve winning results here. Now it is our team's chance to travel to foreign soils. Will this young India team repeat the historical mould or re-make history?

Posted by Shan156 on (December 5, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

India will bounce back. They barely landed and were asked to play a match. Once they get acclimatized, they will dish out a similar trouncing to SA who are really a very average ODI team. India will show them why they are #1 by a huge margin in ODIs. Get ready for Dhawan whiplash Springboks.

In one way, it is good they are playing the ODIs - a format which India is quiet comfortable with - first. By the time the tests are played, India will be quiet familiar with the conditions and it will be a close contest. Watch out for Shami who is going to pick out a handful of wickets (to those who don't believe, check out Sreesanth's performance in the last 2 SA tours - people didn't believe him either but he delivered). Pujara is Pujara and will end up as the highest run scorer for India, if not both sides. And, of course Dhawan who is going to make Philander cry.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:07 GMT)

As usual India can only win at home! They like to smash around on flat tracks but dance around like a bunch of little girls when its bouncy and full of pace! Need i say more? No Wonder they try to get everything at home! WC win was in India as well lol

Posted by couchpundit on (December 5, 2013, 20:06 GMT)

Well Deserved Thrashing....Like to see where Rohit Sharma and Kohli an d Dhoni are class act...Yuvaraj lacking confidence.

Funny part is I want to se those guys who talked about Indian bowling....You wont get a friendly wicket than this...If you don't show intent this is what happens....Obviously shammi did not have support for his effort...no one to bowl in tandem and keep the pressure up.

Worrying thing is if Ishant will be included citing his height....That will be mess...bring in zak and take out mohit.

Posted by SICHO on (December 5, 2013, 20:05 GMT)

I hope some of my 'One-Dimensional' Indian friends realise that chasing 300 on a dead Indian pitch is far from chasing 300 on a lively pitch with pace and movement in it. The same Sharma who recently scored a double hundred couldn't lay bat on ball against the best fast bowler in world cricket, it kinda looked like he was given a broom stick to bat with it. Dhawan, well... He said he liked them coming on the bat with pace, he got his wish alright. Matter of fact no Indian batsmen looked comfortable except for Dhoni at the crease. As for the Indian bowling attack, they were pathetic period. Our boys just need to fix the wides problem, its becoming an issue now. Can't wait for the Test series.

Posted by edgie on (December 5, 2013, 20:05 GMT)

india have been found wanting!

Posted by amilag on (December 5, 2013, 20:05 GMT)

Thanks SA for teaching a lesson to this overhyped, cardboard heroes! As soon as they get a pitch with little assistance to bowlers this Indian team fails big time. In India with indian highway pitches and small ground they are real heroes! now zeroes!

Posted by RANILSAM on (December 5, 2013, 20:04 GMT)

@Harmony_not_Discord: I don't agree with the statement that Indian batting line up as the world best batting lineup. They may be the best in sub continent but pretty ordinary out side the sub continent.

Posted by suve on (December 5, 2013, 20:03 GMT)

India finally play a match outside the Indian flat pitches and small grounds and see what happens. Such an overrated team with so many overrated flat track bullies.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 20:02 GMT)

I mean its horrible from saffers!!

Posted by Batmanindallas on (December 5, 2013, 20:01 GMT)

With a batting line up that consists of Raina and Yuvraj is never going to do well outside the country. I am glad Yuvraj conquered cancer but it is time for him to be dropped. What does Rahane have to do get a break? As for bowlers Kumar can be the only tundler in the attack it cannot support a Mohit along with Kumar. As for Spinners do you need two outside? Hence the need to develop a Rishi or for Pathan to make a comeback. You need a pace bowling all rounder outside the country. Time for a Pujara, Rahane and Rayadu to be given a chance especially where the ball is talking

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

Any batting line up would have struggled against what Steyn and Morkel did today. I thought 240 was the par score here. This line up would have still chased that against the best bowling line up in the world bowling at their best in the conditions that best suit them, playing in their opening match in these conditions. THAT is saying something. The bowling. What can one say. I was surprised to see Mohit pip Umesh as was everyone. India has been lamenting lacking a 140+ bowler since ages. Now that we suddenly have a bunch we have reevaluated and lowered the value raw pace has. It's bewildering, on these pitches, it's a better bet to wish your 140+ bowlers will have control than to wish your 130 bowlers will have the same impact the 140+ bowlers would. It's not rocket science. Pick one person between Jadeja/Ashwin/Yuvraj. Pack all your quickies (except Mohit) in and back your top order to click and compensate the par+50 (not plus +120) score the opposition will get

Posted by IAS2009 on (December 5, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

I think all criticism is on hold till India play this series, they have been at home for a very long time in comfort zone, there has been so much said about the new players how good they are already by commentators on Indian tv channels , runs were piling up all over the place, now lets see what happen in next 2 games, time will tell what all the critics are itching to say is true or not, for comparison India lost most of the ODI and test abroad in ENG and Australia (all Batting greats were in that team) before a very long home season, now let see if new (already crowned batting greats) will do. It is tough to play in SA.

Posted by nide on (December 5, 2013, 20:00 GMT)

Give credit to Pakistan bowling we didn't allow SA cross over 260 in last 8 matches

Posted by mzm149 on (December 5, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

@gsingh: Even with that batting Pakistan defeated South Africa at their home recently. Look at your team. With so called best batting attack they lost today by 141 runs. Its really a miracle to concede 135 runs in last 10 overs. Only Indian bowling can take that honor. Congratulations.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

A SA win is clouding the judgment of a few guys here. To be fair the only reason why India lost wickets early on was the score board pressure else they all looked quite ok barring Yuvi.

Rohit played many dot balls but Steyn really did not trouble him too much except on 2-3 occasions when Rohit played and missed. It is natural for an opening batsman to play dot balls esp when you know you got to lay a foundation & when you are facing someone like Steyn.

Dhawan & Kohli looked in supreme form so no worries there.

Even Raina looked okay while he lasted and got run out due to a terrific but lucky throw from Steyn.

Lower order batsmen like Jadeja & Ashwin too looked rather comfortable. Dhoni obviously had a fine day. The only point of worry is Yuvi, he seems to not even last 6 balls these days. May be he needs some rubbing of his back.

India have barely landed in SA, have had no practice matches & now that they lost, some ppl are using this loss as a proof of something.

Posted by zeefarooqi on (December 5, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

very warm welcome India BY SA

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

to NN then why SA lost their home series aganist PAK

Posted by Karthik78 on (December 5, 2013, 19:58 GMT)

India has never tried to improve bowling performance. Always they will look for batsmen to chase 300+ runs. Thats why they get thrashed if their batsmen did not perform well.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (December 5, 2013, 19:57 GMT)

@Amit Bhatnagar, What are you talking about?? Rohit did the right thing by leaving all those Steyn balls. Did you see the swing and the seam movement? He sure missed a few but mostly he left them alone. You are saying Rohit missed all of them due to his poor technique? You are 100% wrong. It is far better to wwather a top spell by Steyn than be 3 down in the first 10 overs for 20 runs. Rohit looked the best Indian batsman on display. Raina needs to curb his enthusiasm of running for singles when he is not sure if his partner can make it. He ran Rohit out and then got run out himself. Just shows how good a judge he is of taking on fielders. And Yuvraj needs to show some aggression. With 14 years of international cricket, he should have done better than getting hit on the helmet and getting bowled over.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:57 GMT)

nice victory by SA they have learnt quite a lot batting against world's best bowling attack Pakistan Feel sorry for India Maybe they should ask ICC to schedule all overseas tours in India :-D Love the way AB played against Pak and now this match. He's a gem

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 5, 2013, 19:56 GMT)

Lets see after match comparison , Amla VS Rohit = Rohit is the best ( try to put the bat in to the ball ), De Kock VS Dhawan = Dhawan is the best ( see the runs ), Kallis VS Kohli = Kohli is the best ( new IND premier bowler & flat track superstar played 2 innings for 31 runs), De Villiers VS Yuvraj = Yuvraj is the best ( only 2 balls bouncer & in swinger), Duminy VS Raina = Raina is the best ( we saw it), Miller VS Dhoni = Dhoni is the best ( 2 innings for 65 runs, nice helicopter shot ! lol ), McLaren VS Jadeja = Jadeja is the best ( see the score card ), Parnell VS Ashwin = Ashwin is the best ( took 0 wickets ), Steyn VS Kumar = Kumar is the best ( IND fans said he will run through the SA batting line up & we saw that ), Morkel VS Shami = Shami is the best ( yes but wrong team ), Tsotsobe VS Mohit = Mohit is the best ( 145kmp bowler ), Is this dancing & jumping time when batting , what a team , they very much deserve No.2 spot .

Posted by bouncer709 on (December 5, 2013, 19:55 GMT)

Guys Before the Indian batting started I predicted India is going to lose this match by 150 runs, see below..... almost the same thing happened here, they lost by 141 runs. and few Indian fans saying Kohli was looking in great touch.. how? he was dropped, beat, hit on the ribcage... he was totally clueless... just few shots, few of these shots were also not controlled... and while I was looking at Rohit Sharma, I thought we needlessly criticised Hafeez against Styen, Rohit Sharma was a bit better than Hafeez because he was not able to touch the ball. SA bowlers gave 29 runs extra, Indians should be thankful to them, otherwise they could have been bundled below 200.....

Posted by mzm149 on (December 5, 2013, 19:51 GMT)

I think Rohit Sharma scored a double ton a few days back. How is it possible that he couldn't connect first sixteen balls with his bat today and took 43 balls to make 18? The answer is he like other Indian batsmen is a flat track bully. REALITY CHECK.

What happened to Dhawan, who is there in ICC ODI team of the year. He can't handle bouncy short ball on a good wicket.

Now I get it why did they shorten this tour. They wanted to keep their ranking high and humiliation low.

Posted by Santokieleftarmspinner on (December 5, 2013, 19:50 GMT)

Well done BCCI on exposing your players by forcing a ridiculous tour schedule. No warm-up game and no test series (2 tests is not a series, it's a teaser).

I hope India get a hiding - sorry Indian fans and players, I have sympathy for you - but to teach India's bullying administrators a lesson and for the sake of all us cricket fans who want to see the best two teams in the world playing a proper series.

Posted by SnowSnake on (December 5, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

I think it was OK performance by the Indians. The two run outs could be avoided and it would have been a different game. For some reason, India intentionally chose sub standard players like Mohit and Yuvraj when they could have easily chosen Umesh and Pujara. Ashwin was totally unnecessary in these conditions. If spin was needed Raina and Jadeja could have easily filled the role. I am not sure what Dhoni was thinking. Good job by SA. De Kock is a great batsman. I am surprised that Dhoni used slow bolwers in 40-50 overs. Fast bowlers did well to contain the batsmen but this time Dhoni should not blame the bowlers but himself both for selection and choice of bowlers.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

why don't India do a few green pitches in India for the batsmen to train before they go for overseas tours? Cricket today has become one sided due to tailor made pitches to suit the teams bowling. unless India make difficult pitches at home and practice on it we are going to see these whitewashes in England, SA and Australia

Posted by abmughal on (December 5, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

Not only Indian bowling exposed today,their batters shows that they can only do their heroics on subcontinent specially on their home soil.A guy with a double century to his name just recently playing like a coward fox in these conditions. This is why India don't want to play a 7 match series against the pro-tears.

Posted by salman_0902 on (December 5, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

Congrats to SA. please give India a break. It was their first contest. SA conditions are very tough for Asian sides. Let India rethink their strategy and come for the next match. It was a complete contrast of the series just a few days ago. where 200 score was considered defendable. some Indian fans would joke and say it is between number 5 and number 6 sides. that's why matches are so low scoring. today it was between number 2 and number 5 the bowlers were punished in one innings and batsmen were hopeless in the other innings. unfortunately it was the number 2 side which suffered.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 19:49 GMT)

Come on India...series is not over still 2 games are remaining..when england can beat us in our home soil after lagging 1-0 in test series than why don't we can do the same in south Africa...just need to workout on basics & see the difference..

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 19:47 GMT)

A SA win is clouding the judgement of a few guys here. To be fair the only reason why India lost wickets early on was the score board pressure else they all looked quite ok barring Yuvi.

Rohit played many dot balls but Steyn really did not trouble him too much except on 2-3 occasions when Rohit played and missed. It is natural for an opening batsman to play dot balls esp when you know you got to lay a foundation & when you are facing someone like Steyn.

Dhawan & Kohli looked in supreme form so no worries there.

Even Raina looked okay while he lasted and got run out due to a terrific but lucky throw from Steyn.

Lower order batsmen like Jadeja & Ashwin too looked rather comfortable. Dhoni obviously had a fine day. The only point of worry is Yuvi, he seems to not even last 6 balls these days. May be he needs some rubbing of his back.

India have barely landed in SA, have had no practice matches & now that they lost, some ppl are using this loss as a proof of something.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (December 5, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

Leave Indian batsmen alone. Atleast they score some runs in Indian conditions and manage to put up a fight in oversees conditions. I am worried about how south has India's fast bowling has gone. The quicks looked like spinners compared to SA quicks. Indian quicks were hammered for two 6s and two 4s every over consistently. India has conceded 300+ in every match (except one) since Aus-Ind series. Even the lowly ranked WI almost beat India in the ODIs. With this attack, India will not cross round 1 of 2015 world cup.

Posted by Mr.Blacksmith on (December 5, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

Hence prove that it is good bowling that make the contest interesting. i enjoy the second half more than 1st. reason is not that i want india loosing but i like to see the stumps scattered around the wicket. Remember good bowling is always reliable than good batting. And credit goes to pak bowling for today's SA batting display.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:45 GMT)

what was Dhoni doing? Just thinking about his average. Yes it's true the team was not going to win but atleast show some fight all he was doing was scoring few and blocking the rest. welcome India if you are to defend ur title give something for fast bowlers in ur own pitch. Rohit scored 200 and centuries but today he looked like a nothing when Steyn and co was bowling.

Posted by Harmony_not_Discord on (December 5, 2013, 19:40 GMT)

SA made a massive statement in the opening match with a comprehensive victory.

If ever a difference in the quality of fast bowling of two sides was so stark - this is it. Any good seamer would have relished the prospect of bowling at Wanderers. This is why India chose to bowl first on a fresh pitch but SA hammered the innocuous Indian bowling.

Indian death bowling is a big concern. <b>135 runs </b>were plundered in the last 10 overs. This was the match between the best batting line-up in the world against the best seam bowling but the match was totally one sided.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:35 GMT)

Well I must say one thing, if anyone likes it nor not. The Indian team deserved this sort of a bashing by the South Africans. Expect more in the coming ODI matches and in the tests as well.

Batting on Indian pitches is a piece of cake. It used to be raining sixes when India was playing against the Aussies and the Windies but what a shame only a single six in the entire innings by the Indians.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:35 GMT)

India cannot make excuses. Credit has to go to SAF. I felt the two runouts really hurt India and they could consider themselves a little unlucky. You cannot write off India yet but their fast bowlers need to step up.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (December 5, 2013, 19:34 GMT)

My 2 observations: (1) The balance between bat and ball had never been so skewed in favor of the bat ever in the history of the game, as it is now. (2) In light of that, 350 is the new 280. Batsmen across the world are adept at scoring 350+ consistently. Unless India overhauls its domestic pitches and make them more bowling friendly, Indian bowlers (fast ones) will pose no threat or challenge whatsoever in oversees conditions. Which means that oversees, India will consistently struggle to contain the opposition and we will see 350+ against India regularly. At the same time, Indian batsmen will not be able to chase down those high scores (as they manage in Indian conditions) because of the quality bowling attacks that most teams have (except India). On today's pitch, no decent bowling unit would have allowed 250+. India allowed 359. SA bowlers bowled on the same pitch and extracted 6-8 feet high bounce and swing. Indian quicks could hardly get the ball bounce above knee level.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:33 GMT)

Very sorry to see the way India bowled.. and their batting, well ! lets just charge this to the first match on SAfrican lively tracks. I know they will do well in the second match as far as their batting is concerned. Bowling... God only can help. They are no Pakistan to challenge the likes of Hashim, DE Villiers, Kallis and company. Good luck India !

Posted by bijuphilip on (December 5, 2013, 19:31 GMT)

team selection is important when we play different parts of the world. First of all rohit can't play like this,he needs to rotate the strike and at least strike rate should be 80. 1.davan2.kholi3.pujara4.aswin.5jadeja.6rohit.7dhoni.8raina9.shami.10bkumar11isharama

if raina is not a finisher bring ambatirayidu

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:31 GMT)

Dhoni's strategy was a major factor in loss today....but with young players the advantage is that they will be ready to learn quickly. Indians will get angry now....let us see what comes out...lions or lambs....

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:31 GMT)

Yuvi is finished. So is Raina. They are not going to contribute to 2015 WC in aussie.

Umesh must play in place of Mohit. Prob Zak too in place of one of the two all rounder spinners

Rahane must play and Pujara must be added to the team at 3.

Posted by kr_kinshuk on (December 5, 2013, 19:31 GMT)

South Africa had a good day today... India, not so much....

A couple of catches at the top of the innings fell inches from diving indian fielders.... On a good day, they would have been taken...

South Africa, on the other hand, got a run out that happens on very rare days... a near direct hit from the boundary from steyn...

Yes, south africa outplayed india today, and they did so by a huge margin.....

But just as India's several wins against a listless west indies aren't enough evidence to prove that they are the best ODI side in the world.... a single defeat at the very start of a tour (remember they didn't get a single practice game) doesn't prove the opposite true.....

That said, India do need to find a good genuine fast bowler.... one steyn makes a huge difference to the look of the south african attack... a bhuvneshwar or a shami will suddenly look much better if they had a steyn at the other end....

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (December 5, 2013, 19:30 GMT)

India's bowlers were always ordinary at best. It was suppose to be India's batting, which was going to help them win. What happened eh? Flat pitch players

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:29 GMT)

well team combination was wrong for india ....shami ,umesh and ishant should play next game... yuvi really luks edgy i dont see him perfroming...i dont knw why pujara is not playing you need a bastman with good technique on these conditions.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:27 GMT)

Starting not with shami was obvious mistake. one look at bowler says everything....mohit doea not qualify. fast bowling is a attacking style of bowling...there is a reason why bowlers like vinay and ajit failed. they never gave the look but were persistes with. Ashwin has disappointed me...but I am sure he has tried his best...sometimes it more about belief and talent....when murali bowled, it seemed he his guiding the ball upto the point it reachea batsman...spinners need to be salivating....anil did so did he not...bhajji forgot that due to too many close odi games...ashwin needs to learn to switch....best example today is in Pakistan team...if he needs to be better than him...he needs to learn from him.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 5, 2013, 19:26 GMT)

I am disappointed but not surprised. This was the first game where a few Indian batsmen played reasonably well. Dhoni was the best among Indians. He faced 70 odd balls to get the feel of teh pitch and bowlers. Jadeja was also playing good till he got the beauty from Kallis, Rohit faced 45 balls for a good exposure and his and raina's run outs were unfortunate. I think Batsmen will do good. The problem is bowling. They really need to buckle up and play good in bowlers friendly pitches. Well played SA.

Posted by Newlandsfaithful on (December 5, 2013, 19:26 GMT)

A wonderful result. Time for India to face a reality check after inflating their averages and aura of superiority by beating a hapless WI side into the ground in home conditions. Time for a real challenge. We all know why India doesn't want to tour long.... cluck, cluck. cluck...

Posted by t20cric on (December 5, 2013, 19:20 GMT)

I thought India would lose this one but I wasn't expecting such a massive thrashing. India bowlers need to pull up their socks now and fight hard in the next one. Even as a Pakistani fan whose team has some awful batsmen I can't quite understand how Yuvraj & Riana manage to get a spot in the Indian team just for there batting when India have many options to replace these two. I thought to become a batsman in the India team was about as super competitive as becoming a bowler in Pakistan team(then again Wahab & Tanvir constantly make it to the Pak team). I guess if they bring in Rahane & Rayadu the hole in thier batting line-up will be filled but the main problem is with their bowling. They need to try out some different bowlers in bowling-friendly conditions to have a chance of winning.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:19 GMT)

no matter wht happened today....

India u come on 2morrow with the flying colours as u had done vs Aussie inna last seriea

Posted by truecric_fan on (December 5, 2013, 19:19 GMT)

Its unfair to judge Indias performance just after one game ( and the first one of this tour) - however we should realize that our so called Gods of Indian Cricket who easily chase 350+ in 40 odd overs on dead batting wickets look like mere mortals in less friendly batting conditions. South Africa should be worried since they bowled badly except Steyn, gave away too many wides and dropped catches. India may upset them in Game 2 :)

Posted by NixNixon on (December 5, 2013, 19:18 GMT)

People say Ind have best batting in the world? Amla vs Sharma - Amla; De Kock vs Darwhan - Darwhan. Kallis vs Kholi - Kallis. DeVilliers vs Yuvraj - DeVilliers. Duminy vs Raina - Duminy. Miller vs Dhoni - Dhoni. SA 4 picks and India 2 picks. So whats the hype about india batting.?? raina, yuvraj, sharma all average 30! please post admin.

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (December 5, 2013, 19:18 GMT)

Congrats to SA and Dale Steyn. He has really frustrated, intimidated Indian batsmen. Dhoni earlier mentioned that India has improved in death bowling but I see it has worsen. Death bowling is really the big difference. I know350+ is a big target but Indian batting top order should have waited till 20 overs before making unnecessary shot and run attempts to make it good fight regardless of win or loss. Too many run outs. But good experience for Indian young team and I hope they learn from this.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 19:18 GMT)

Not only Indian bowling exposed today,their batters shows that they can only do their heroics on subcontinent specially on their home soil.A guy with a double century to his name just recently playing like a coward fox in these conditions. This is why India don't want to play a 7 match series against the pro-tears.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:17 GMT)

india at home and India abroad are two different sides of the coin. by today's performance, pathetic

Posted by kr_kinshuk on (December 5, 2013, 19:17 GMT)

This is funny.... india won so many games since champions trophy but, all those wins are conveniently ignored... but india get thumped in one game and it's enough for people to go, "i told u so".....

This is just the first game in the trip.... yes, dhoni missed a trick by not picking umesh yadav..... he would have had a few proteas hopping on this pitch.... i don't know y we keep persisting with so many clearly mediocre medium pacers... mohit sharma is a north indian vinay kumar.....

whenever india have competed abroad they have had a sreesanth or a zaheer khan through whom india met fire with fire....

bring on umesh yadav... he might go for runs but at least his pace would make the batsmen think...

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 19:16 GMT)

Oh come on guys, it is a bit too much to expect Indian team to give off their best on the very first day of their tour. Even if India have lost that does not mean that they become a poor team overnight. Teams win and lose, it happens. In the 2010-11 tour too, India lost the first test match by an innings and everyone said India's tour was going to be disastrous but we came back to win the next test itself. So have some patience & do not lose hope. To have a big heart is to stay the same when you are down. India do need to make a few changes in their team for eg Yuvi's value must be seriously analyzed now. India may try to play Umesh instead of Mohit but more importantly, they need to learn accurate bowling.

Expecting India to keep chasing 350 every time is too much. No team in the world can do it even once these days. And expecting Indian batsmen to be able to immediately start on a 7 RPO chase is way too much. + point is Kohli showed his class, barring Yuvi others looked okayish.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 5, 2013, 19:13 GMT)

I was right about Dhawan all along. I knew that he is guy with a lot technical flaws. I was waiting to see how he handles the pace n bounce. He just proved today that he is nothing but a home track hero. The other guy is Rohit. It took 16 balls just to connect the ball. This is a reality check for Indian management and Indian fans. This lot is far from being the best batting side in the world. Less daid about the bowling attack is better.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:12 GMT)

For people who have been full of praise for Rohit sharma (and that includes me, by the way), today was an eye opener. I suppose that the talent talk of Rohit has been overplayed. Ball after ball, Steyn embarrassed Sharma. Even giving an allowance that Steyn was brilliant with the new ball, a really "talented" batsman would have made anticipated the swing and tried to cover the line of the bowl. It may be unfair to compare, but I doubt whether Sachin in his pomp (which Rohit is in right now in his career), any bowler would have got past Sachin so many times in an opening spell. We really need to reassess Rohit and the value he will bring.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 5, 2013, 19:12 GMT)

A great pitch that offers something for the bowlers and the batsman. For the batters - SA get to 360. For the bowlers India get rolled out for 217.

I hope there is less denial on the forums now that India's Pitches need to be more seam bowler friendly so that they can develop more Fast bowlers and their batsmen get used to tougher batting conditions. Clearly the commercial gains of IPL have reduced home pitches in India to complete Roads and are effecting their overseas prospects.

Congrats to De Kock on a great Ton. Steyn made Sharma look like a club batsmen, I have never seen an international batting opener play and miss so much in an ODI.

Posted by cricktwins on (December 5, 2013, 19:11 GMT)

Well played south africa congrats... india lost due to poor bowling.. south africa won due to superb bowling by steyn and morkel.. As an indian fan i accept the defeat and credit goes proteas bowling and fielding.. lets hope for a better performance from india in the next match..

We dont blame it on pitch,conditions,toss etc... I accept our bowling was weak..

Posted by auzdruck on (December 5, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

I cant understand why captains like AB and Misbah dont go for the kill. India cud have been bundled up at 130 but he waited for the 36th over to bring back steyn

Posted by immi2711 on (December 5, 2013, 19:09 GMT)

I am disappointed with Dhawan & Kholi, they got out to piss poor shot selections, knowing they are chasing 350+, why would you want to swing your bat around like you are playing in India. Really irresponsible shots, they could have easily chased this pitch had they batted with their brains....

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 5, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

What wrong have Rahane and Rayudu done? What's the logic behind selecting Yuvi and Raina in spite of their continued poor performance? We need more bowlers like Shami. Drop Mohit Sharma, Ishant Sharma, etc and bring some warrior class bowlers like Pankaj Singh, Imtiaz (Khan) Ahmed, Rishi Dhawan, etc.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

well i was of the view that this time india will do good because they were inform and Sa not in good touch. they won uae series but had their weak moments in that. any diciplined team would not have let them go like pakistan. and then lost a series in home.

but disappointing to see this from india. batsmen were suppose to do bad in these conditions but very poor from bowlers. bowling too bad . it was hard to score in sa vs pak series but here it was easy pickings.

indian bowlers , especially fast bowlers need to pick up their game. these are good conditions so they should adjust quickly. where is their bowling coach?

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 19:05 GMT)

this defeat has nothing to do with batsmen, it's was Indian bowlers ( especially opening bowlers) who made sure that winning is way too mainstream.... I hope dhoni picks umesh in place of mohit, and rahane in place of uv.... no offence to uv, but he is done ans dusted just like viru.... hope zaheer will give some tips now that he is the mentor too...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 18:46 GMT)

Why Indians are hesitant to play a long series in SA? The answer is quite obvious after this performance. It is often said that India has one of the best, if not the best, batting lineup in the world and Pakistan has a strong bowling lineup. I doubt the first assumption because Indian batting lineup does well in certain conditions. Yes Pakistan has a strong bowling unit because they do well all over the world, not in bowling friendly conditions only. They can even defend 11 runs in last 2 overs against a top side in their home. So in my opinion India has the best batting line up in the subcontinent, if they are playing in subcontinent.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (December 5, 2013, 18:44 GMT)

I'm very surprised at the exclusion of Umesh and Zak. I've been telling this for a while - Pujara needs to be in this ODI side. I'm no Yuvi hater. But he has to go. Raina played well but he needs to go too and Rahane should be in his place. So, that's at least 4 players that India is missing. Looks like SA is going to beat our second choice team in this ODI. India have had enough from that long-haired tall Sharma. Now we have a short-haired short Sharma to show his largesse. Bring in Umesh and Zak in place of short-haired short Sharma and BK.

Dear BCCI, will our team ever get a chance to acclimatize or you guys are happy with minting money?

Posted by sumit1982 on (December 5, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

Dhoni made wrong selection.

You are playing in south africa in every game you need to play 4 fast blower and one spinner. Play raina or jadeja .

MY choice Umesh yadav,Ishant,Shami and zaheer/bkumar.

You didn't want military medium space blower like Mohit sharmar it is not England and Kwiss where ball used to seam a lot.

Posted by Brahams on (December 5, 2013, 18:37 GMT)

Well, Indian bowlers need to get the length right and the batsmen need to ride the bounce. Steyn is superb as usual and what a bowler!

By the time the tests arrive, we may see a decent contest!

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 18:33 GMT)

better we promote ashwin to the no 4 spot!! the guy looks so much at ease compared to guys like yuvi and raina who look like they are confronted by a group of blood thirsty gladiators ! I wish pujara was picked in the odi side...need him at no 3 or 4 and rahane at no 5 ...groom these guys and we will see better results abroad...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 18:32 GMT)

bring pujara at no4 its high time now he and rahane get a look in

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

Someone said that Kohli played a fantastoc knock to chase down that total of 338 within 40 overs. That was a road at Hobart. Very much like pitches in India. India is the best when it is the road.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 18:24 GMT)

Reality check for india...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

Yuvraj must be dropped. He is no more useful for Indian team carrying his current form. He need hard workout to gain his batting confidence.

Posted by SHANEDAPPAL on (December 5, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

indian team have enough talent but they are not using it if india want to win the next game the playing XI will be 1 - RAHANE- 2 DAWAN 3-KOHLI 4 -ROHIT- 5 -RAINA-(RAYIDU) 6-DHONI- 7- JADEJA 8-BUVI- 9SHAMI- 10 UMESH- 11 ISHANTH

look yuvi can't survive in this series so muh better rahene so rahane can open the team has 6-- batsman 1-- all rounder (spinner too) 4-- fast bowlers (here buvi can bat a bit too)

Posted by TAcricfan on (December 5, 2013, 18:20 GMT)

Flat pitches in India=Great Entertainment( high Score games) + Easy Wins+ Nice Ratings , centuries made and Records broken ...BUT...totally counter productive for GOOD BALANCED CRICKET GAME, . ITS NOT ABOUT WINNING, Its about GOOD cricket. BCCI wants to see young bowlers flourish , give them some bounce and grass on indian pitches so Indian batters wont struggle in on good bowling pitches, by the way today's pitch isn't doing a lot hell of movement any ways. I am disappointed

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 18:18 GMT)

Tsotsobe is a weak link for South Africa. They should play Philander instead. Philander's accurate line and length would trouble Indian batsmen more.

Posted by John_Mil on (December 5, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

This is a Good test for India to prove their Number 1 status in SA soil with the Brave effort to go with Young guns neglecting the renounced Senior Players.Top 3 players are in good form so far including Rohit playing in the Flat Track so far.More over Rohit already started preparing Test Cricket in the first one in SA.Somebody needs to tell him that we are playing a Limited over match that too chasing 350+ and we have a got a Pratice match after this one day series.Lets wait and see how the Young guns performs.But I still remember the Game of Yusuf Century in SA and the batting of Sachin,Shewag,Gambir,Dravid,Ganguly,Zahir,Irfan(All rounder) and co..Dhoni and BCCI experimendation may not be the best always in Foreign conditions..Let me wish India to do the Best.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

in the end it comes to this INDIA is no.1 , one match which was played in hurry without any prior match practice doesn't affect the performance further batsmen were positive for all the while they played, everyone got an eye in and just couldn't get going, Rohit got in, he wad runout, kohli got in he edged, raina was middling even the short pitched stuff. he was runout, uv needs to rethink about his career from now on, dhoni is sublime as usual, dhawan is left hand version of sehwag.... ashwin wad good in bowling early on , shami is awesome, bhuvi will come back, mohit is nor international material, search for fast bowling allrounder, play alrounder according to the pitch....

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

lets see how the subcontinent batting champions fare in testing conditions....a batting lineup far less competent just won a series in South Africa in similar conditions and against the same bowling attack.... Lets see how good the Indian bowling and batting really is..

Posted by Naveed_Pak on (December 5, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

What a shameful display of world No. 1 team here. I am so disappointed. .I wanted indian batsmen to perform here. India should improve their bowling, they shouldn't have conceded 350+ runs on a pitch where they are not able to connect their bat to the ball. There was a time when some indian fans were criticising pakistani team by saying them a club standard team and suggesting ICC to take back test status from pakistan. We played 8 ODIs against SA and didn't allow them to score beyond 250. We are a poor batting unit...that's why couldn't chase even 186 and lost by 1 run..hehehe. india should drop yuvi and jadeja asap. Include rihane/pujara and include one more fast bowler who knows how to bowl on fast and bouncy pitches.

Posted by LongLiveTestCricket on (December 5, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

Well.. this track has had lots of bounce and swing for a usual Wanderers wicket. Add to it the two new balls and it has been difficult for Indian batsmen. in fact would have been difficult for any batting lineup against the SA pacers in these conditions. Typical Australian and SA wickets are good batting wickets. The blame definitely needs to go to bowlers who could not do any justice to the conditions which were supporting swing and seam. Bowled too many short & wide balls and then length balls at the death.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

Shikar needs to learn his limitations, what kind of shot to play first ball again a bowler like morkel, kohli was in great touch until he edges that ball to kallis, Rohit is good , I like the way he took his time yo get an eye in... yuvi need to go back to training again,rahane or pujara should come in at 4 followed by dhoni and raina... Rohit, kohli, dhoni are the key... what I like in Rohit is he was taking his time, that is very much needed especially when u have a partner like kohli and dhawan who can score freely... I think he is very much suitable for anchor role which rahul did....

again finally point comes to bowling department, PACE, PACE, PACE.... u can't afford to have a line and length bowler who bowls at 130kph who doesn't have any sort of variation.... we need umesh yadhav who is not afraid of pitching it up and giving ball some travel in air..... we need 140KPH pace....

Posted by CRIC_FAN94 on (December 5, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

Everyone stop blaming our batsmans ,bowlers are the biggest drawbacks for us .It is 220 pitch and they have given 120+ extra runs. Even Dhoni's captaincy looked ordinary today,very bad selection. When shami was bowling at more than 140,we can observe weakness in SA batting ,they were not playing him like Bhuvi,mohit.And everyone dont forget that Shami is not even half as good as steyn and he didnt even bowl with the new ball.If Shami was enough to create doubts in SA batsman,why cant other bowlers? mohit should be dropped and Umesh should be brought in. Bhuvi should atleast bowl at good lengths,today he just kept on bowling at wide off stump. Even the SA are not good at facing 140kph speed. So india should concentrate bowling at high speed at good lengths

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

India desperately need some PACE here, when I say pace that's above 140kph.... we saw shami did very good job with slightly old ball with his pace, enough of line and length bowlers like mohit sharma, ishant sharma, bring in umesh yadhav, varun Aaron....they can bowl above 140kph, they may be expensive but they got PACE.... bhuvi needs some guidance from zaheer, I thought bhuvi is clever enough to learn at what length to bowl, but he proved me wrong...I don't remember the bowling coaches name, but seriously he is guiding the wrong way..... when the ball us swinging pitch it up pitch it up, give it some extra air , instead we went back to ishant sharma's type of bowling back of a length.... shami, bhuvi, umesh, rishi dhawan, varun Aaron... find more PACE stars....

Posted by Dhanno on (December 5, 2013, 17:42 GMT)

What a sight. 3 slips in play, ODi on 23rd over. Basically if cricket is played in right spirit, a contest between bat and ball, indians dont even turn up!

Posted by Vnott on (December 5, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

India is missing Dinesh Karthik @ 6 instead of Raina, Gambhir@3 instead of Yuvraj and Umesh Yadav instead of Jadeja. Can put up a much better fight with this combo....

Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

I love it when my predictions are spot on! - Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 15:20 GMT) lol @gsingh7, out of the 350+ chases, how many on the cement-road tracks in India? My prediction, we will lose 3 wkts in the 1st 15 and then when the SA bowlers take it a bit easier, have a couple of 50 partnerships and lumber on to 250 odd.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

First they let SAF Batsmen to score a huge total mainly due to thier pathetic bowling apart from Shami. How can any team let their opponents score so many runs on the pitch which offers quite a bit of bounce and swing too? I was expecting more fight from Indian Batsmen but they disappointed me. Time now for India to sort out this issue, they need to find bowlers who can bowl at 140+ & make some pitches back home where they get swing and bounce so they can compete in any conditions.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 5, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

INDIAN BOWLING is a demoralising factor in overseas matches. Bhuvi and Mohit are exactly the same. Yadav and Khan need to be in. We dont have a single left armer.

Posted by CRIC_FAN94 on (December 5, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

Everyone stop blaming our batsmans ,bowlers are the biggest drawbacks for us .It is 220 pitch and they have given 120+ extra runs. Even Dhoni's captaincy looked ordinary today,very bad selection. When shami was bowling at more than 140,we can observe weakness in SA batting ,they were not playing him like Bhuvi,mohit.And everyone dont forget that Shami is not even half as good as steyn and he didnt even bowl with the new ball.If Shami was enough to create doubts in SA batsman,why cant other bowlers? mohit should be dropped and Umesh should be brought in. Bhuvi should atleast bowl at good lengths,today he just kept on bowling at wide off stump. Even the SA are not good at facing 140kph speed. So india should concentrate bowling at high speed at good lengths

Posted by Piirate_Kaptan on (December 5, 2013, 17:25 GMT)

i dont write off india but the way the are facing this fast attack it would not be easy to defend the world title in australia .... batting is their strength but it seems they are used to home conditions only

Posted by vxttemp on (December 5, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

Rohit at least left some deliveries. Virat doesn't even have patience. Virat is key to the test series. Now I can safely sign off saying "2-0" and 10-0 result overseas looming for India. Anything better than that(at least a draw), I'll be celebrating :-)

Posted by coolitbaby on (December 5, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

Rohit did the right thing by staying there for 45 odd balls. This is a long tour and there have been no practice games whatsoever. ZERO. Its best to use 1st 1-2 matches as practice games even if the results are not pretty. I think think India will win the one day series. SA do not do well when put under pressure. India just has to somehow get themselves in a good position in the next game, and watch the Proteas unravel from there on. And for god's sake get Umesh in. And please replace Yuvraj with Dinesh Karthik. He is just a walking wicket.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 17:17 GMT)

Drop Bhuvaneshwar and Mohit.. Bring in Umesh and Ishant... This team can't retain the world cup... Too much score to chase creates pressure for the batsmen... Bowlers are to be blamed. Say no to medium speed bowlers. Bring in bowlers like Shami. Bad selection by Dhoni.

Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia on (December 5, 2013, 17:12 GMT)

This is quite a horrendous display of cricket by the Indians. Hope they put up a better show in the next two matches in the format they're best at, or else it'll be the same old story for India as far as South African tours are concerned.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 17:11 GMT)

I think its all over for india, no offence battinghas nothing to do with it. indian bowlers presented an opportunity and sa bowlers are capitalizing in it. still want to see good shots from india to steyn. com'on guys hit him once and you will find him struggling with his line n length. you will have to hit him or his confidence will touch the skies.

Posted by John_Mil on (December 5, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

This is a Good Test for India in Foreign soil that too again the SA.India might have created a so many records in the Flat track but what is more important is to score runs on the pouncy pitches.Understood by every one Rohit already scored over 1000 runs this year.Becaause of the pitches he played so far and the promotion to open the innings. And he already started playing Test Cricket in the first one day.Somebody needs to to tell him that this is a limited overs gave and that too we are chasing out 350 plus.Let's wish the India to do better for the Brave effort to go with young guns.But I still remember the Century scored by Yusuf Pathan in SA.and the Batting by Shewag,Sachin,Dravid,Gambir ,Gnguly,Yuvi and the alrounder performance by Irfan Pthan.Shewag,Gambir,Pathan Brothers I still want to see your game..pls come back soon to Rock...Bowling still needs to improve lot better according to the conditions...Cool Dhoni is doing fine so far..there is not much to blame him...

Posted by MJ-Sid on (December 5, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

India has a great batting line up ... at home! ... or in similar conditions. They have now a chance to prove that they can bat well and score in any condition. Not looking too good at 60 something runs with 4 wickets down. Bowling was lackluster as usual. I think the Indian fans will now realize how good the Pakistani bowlers are to restrain South Africa to such low totals throughout their series.

Posted by mg_asim on (December 5, 2013, 17:06 GMT)

pretty ordinary bowling by India, though bating is also waving, let them to play in India, where u will find bating paradise pitches, nd u will score more then 300 runs, here in SA cannot do anything, expt kiding. so couple of days ago, someone was saying India will beat SA,I think its Joke of December 2013.hahah

Posted by KingMSC on (December 5, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

SA just made Indian batsman look silly, Koli was dropped and yet he didn't manage to score much. Imagine if India batted first on this pitch.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 17:02 GMT)

well this was bound to happen... steyn and co leave India in a trance... and then better dhoni realizes at least now how useless his no 4 and no 5 batsmen are...!! India can't even qualify from the group stage in WC 2015 if they play like this !! wat a pathetic show first up :(

Posted by kc69 on (December 5, 2013, 17:02 GMT)

I guess 359 is way too much for the pace at which india is batting...I guess this match will give some reality check to Dhoni and his boys.And celebrations for those who have been criticizing team India.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (December 5, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

I am just wondering as to why Yuvraj is still playing. With the new rules in one dayers, his bowling has become practically useless. Is he good enough to be played purely as a batsman?? He has well documented weaknesses against spin bowling, and fast bowling too. His fielding is not great these days either. So why not give Dinesh Karthik an extended run - instead of maybe Yuvraj or even Raina?

Posted by vishalch on (December 5, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

MSD should think about including Pujara who can potentially ancor the innings . Current batting order does seem to lack some one like him . looks like a castle without good foundation....

Posted by Harry_Harish_6 on (December 5, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

India is on the verge of an embarrassing defeat. Never expected this kinda chase from the batters. The Indian bowling is mediocre like always. Its time to bring in Irfan Pathan, Zaheer and Umesh in to the playing 11 considering the 2015 WC. Very upset with the way Yuvraj Singh has been playing. He is running short of his opportunities and may be its time to try solid Pujara in the ODI's as well.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (December 5, 2013, 16:59 GMT)

Kohli playing really well here. I think he just has to imagine that he is playing Pakistan or Sri Lanka. In that case he somehow transforms into a fire breathing dragon and just slaughters the opponents.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

India always start slowly in the first game, on an overseas tour. Things start to pick up after that. The first game is out of India's grasp. But I have a feeling they will bounce back in the matches to follow.

Posted by jalebi_bai on (December 5, 2013, 16:53 GMT)

Yuvraj is just a walking wicket these days. I hope people now realize the worth of someone like Dinesh Karthik. He has all the shots in the book and plays really well when the ball is coming on to the bat. Just wonder why when Rohit Sharma can be persisted with for 100+ one day internationals, Dinesh Karthik hardly gets chances.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

is rohit thinking this too be a 5 day game...really irritating batsmen gud for indian slow turners

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

even 8 batsmen are not enough unless u have atleast 3 genuine bowlers

Posted by jalebi_bai on (December 5, 2013, 16:51 GMT)

I think this may be too much even for Kohli. There is no way you can score 350 on this pitch. This is just a 220 pitch. Indian bowlers lost it completely and gifted the game to SA on a platter. Mohit Sharma should not have played at all. Ishant can only curse his bad luck - he gets to play on the flattest of the pitches back home, and the one time India tour abroad and pitches seem helpful, he is dropped !! And for god's sake why was Umesh Yadav not playing?? India going to lose by at least 100 runs !

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 16:42 GMT)

Will Kohli do it again..Why am i getting a feel that this match is going to be one hell of a Cracker

Posted by maheshkumar.de on (December 5, 2013, 16:42 GMT)

RR has risen to 4 overs after 13 overs. It was around 2 after first 6 overs. Good accelration. With Steyn/morkel already finishing their spells only it can only get easier.

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 5, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

tough start but we must remember india is only side to chase 350 twice in last few months. kohli is on a roll and expecting big hundred from him. a blistering fifty from raina or yuvi and 360 will be within reach. #believe

Posted by jokerbala on (December 5, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

Mohit sharma selection was perplexing to say the least. I saw him in the Ranjis and his own team had Harshal Patel who was bowling better than Mohit He needs more domestic cricket before he gets a crack at International level.Umesha and Ishant both of whom are useless in Indian conditions might find some help in SouthAfrica

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:40 GMT)

That ball looked definitely above chest high... and not called No-ball... Agreed Kohli pulled it to the boundary...

What is the no-ball rule for height in ODIs?

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:40 GMT)

Well played Kohli. Hez showing his class now gradually coming into his own

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:38 GMT)

Would have loved to see how Pujara batted in this situation....

Rohit and Kohli.. time to apply yourself... Rohit has played in for a while.. its time to take it to the next gear...

It is only getting interesting now...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

indian bowlers punished again in the final 5 overs

Posted by A.B.Saeed on (December 5, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

Welcome to the South African Bowling attack India! I know the likes of Kohli and Sharma have been demolishing bowlers in India but you only judge the class/abilities against class/abilities. So far as I remember, Junaid Khan & M. Irfan demolished them in India same time last year and they are struggling right now in SA against Steyn & Co. Be assured, they have no clue against swing & bounce so far.

Posted by Biggus on (December 5, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

The phrase 'Poetic Justice' comes to mind......

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (December 5, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

after 10 overs, rohit manages to contact with the ball more often.

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (December 5, 2013, 16:29 GMT)

I think I had enough of this non sense. Here are some statistics and now you go and figure who scores at home and who scores away. This is centuries scored in test matches:

SRT 57% away Ricky Pointing 39% away Rahul Dravid: 58% away Kumar Sangakkara: 30 % away Brian Lara: 50% away Kallis: 45% away

As you can see only SRT, Dravid and Lara have atleast 50% of their centuries scored away in test matches.

Posted by maheshkumar.de on (December 5, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

after 10 overs it 36/1. we need now around 329 in 40 overs. wasn't it kohli who did that against the likes of malinga in australia?

Posted by golgoal on (December 5, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

Kohli is very dangerous when he is in this kind of mood. Just ask the Sri Lankans - they are still licking their wounds based on what he has been doing to them. Proof - comments on this forum :-)

Posted by INDIANFOOL on (December 5, 2013, 16:28 GMT)

The last time Sri Lanka toured SA we chased down 300, not once but twice! Let's see the home track favorite Indian batsmen can face the real test? If you need to be the best you gotta prove it OUTSIDE home. Specially in testing tracks like SA.

And there we go. 20/1 in 8 overs. Are they chasing 358 or 158?

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

i think pakistan's bowlers are the best bowlers now.similarly for proteas.but how australians gave us 330+ in every match.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

india should play with 11 batsmen instead of 6 or 7. bcoz due to ipl india have just created batsmen and destroyed their bowling bcoz of t20 matches. it was time when india have bowlers like prasad kumble and sri nath but now india have only batsmen not even single match winning bowler

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:26 GMT)

well India has the world best batting so i dun ve any doubt tht they cannot chase 359 Go India and beat SA in SA and prove ur the best batting side but if u win still u ve the same pathetic bowling lyk pak ve pathetic batting so work on it n u ll be on top for sure...Best ov luck frm Pak & Indian batting fan

Posted by I_Love_My_India on (December 5, 2013, 16:25 GMT)

It is too early to comment. But Rohit should start taking singles. I agree Steyn is bowling his heart out. But he should take at least singles against other bowlers. The pressure will get on to the other batters....

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 5, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

Rohit's first over from Steyn. Rghit went from no-hit to no clue! Could not even get his bat close enough to nick the ball. 2nd over no difference. Leaving the ball like a test opener, and not even offering a shot.

Dhawan on the other hand plays some strokes, and good ones too. 3 well placed boundaries.

Rohit in Steyn's 3rd over still can't get bat on ball. Finally gets the bat on the ball, & then a leading edge for 2 runs. 18 balls, touched the bat twice.

Dhawan pops it up off Morkel's 1st ball. One of India's big guns gone. Can Virat change the pattern, as Rohit looks clueless against Morkel too! 6 overs - 1 for 14 and Virat to face Steyn. Swing and miss, & a nervous grin from Virat. Another big swing and a miss and then Virat gets going off a straighter ball, then is DROPPED by de Kock. Virat swings and gets thumped in the ribs.

SA may just have dropped the game there, as Virat is getting his eye in, and strikes 2 boundaries. Can this get any more exciting?

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 16:21 GMT)

INDIAN selection should think twice be going overseas by not counting da experience.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:21 GMT)

Sorry guys.. even though India is on the back seat... I am enjoying Steyn bowling here..and now even Morkel...

Good to see some nice bowling.. and some contest between bat and ball.. that is what cricket after all is about......

Some reality check for Ind Batsmen.... Reason why you need to play with proper technique initially.... Like how DeCock played this morning... all his first many shots are decent.. no slogs there.....

May sound anti-Indian to some...

But for the greater good.. this is good...

ENG series did help reevaluate our options... Hope this series only makes the young talent more experienced and exposes those that does not have it

Posted by Dhanno on (December 5, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

Coming down the pitch, going across the line. Wow. and even commentators like it. Stepping out to Steyn is not backing yourself up, its suicide when you cannot even connect to the straight ball. Its desperation. @ Harmony here is another stat for you. Ahmed Shehzad a 22 r old pakistani opener, with avg of 25 and SR of 66 he scored 35 in his first game here and 100 in his second. Both in their teams wins . Thats some food for thought for guys who score 200 and the ones who just equalled Sir Viv. And there Kohli does something like "let me cover my face with the bat the ball is bouncing so high!" impression. Ah and then the ribcage. Thanks Morkel and Steyn for showing what is cricket, a contest between bat and ball and not guys plundering bowling machines !

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

Finally a real test for Indians. This is a real cricket pitch, not an Indian pitch where 350 is nothing.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

Thought B Kumar will use da conditions bt failed lets hope V.Kholi gets into gear before its too late .

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

Indian batsman r not giving d edge. ....bcoz bat is no way near ball

Posted by maheshkumar.de on (December 5, 2013, 16:20 GMT)

To all indiafans: please pay no heed to these haters. Go and check the rankings. one match does not change anything.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

Uu hoooo Kohli dear smile ur at Wanderers not playing in Eden Gardenz paradise Love!

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:18 GMT)

This is not more than a 250 wicket. Indian bowlers are pathetic. If they cant bowl in helpful grassy wicket, where else can they bowl ?

Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 16:16 GMT)

As an Indian, I am strangely relieved. The way we were talking up the likes of Rohit and Dhawan based on their bullying of bowling attacks on flat tracks, this had to happen. A wake-up call for the cricketers, administrators and fans. We have been whitewashed consistently on tours abroad and this one will be no different. Will the BCCI next time have practice games and a longer series please? Or am I expecting too much?

Posted by Mr.Blacksmith on (December 5, 2013, 16:16 GMT)

rohit sharma on fire............2 off 24

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 16:16 GMT)

After 7 overs Ind 17/1...Dhawan(who was talking alot recently) already gone.....so indiqn fans do u still feel that it's a flat track

Posted by Captain_Tuk_Tuk on (December 5, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

@Blade-Runner This is one sided contest though but Kholi is not able to connect against Styen and co I would say 3-0 looks very much on the card.

Posted by Biggus on (December 5, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

Scintillating run rate by India. If they keep on going like this they should make about 120.

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 5, 2013, 16:12 GMT)

poor rohit try to get ball in to bat !! recently got 200+ !!!

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:12 GMT)

Every team scores 350+ against india on regular basis. If india gets an average bowler like shami the whole indian media shows like they got someone like Wasim Akram. Well it is understandable if indian bowlers get smashed for 350 on dead indian wickets but if they gets 360 on SA fast n bouncy wickets, the caliber of indian bowling is exposed. Where are those indian fans bashing pakistani new bowlers. And finally the most important thing which everyone is saying their batsmen can score 200 in ODI (all 3 200 in ODIs scored in india) and pile up huge records. Chase 350 now on SA pitches.

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (December 5, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

SA NEVER WON ANY BILATERAL SERIES IN INDIA. I challenge here, SA will never going to win any series atleast for next 3 series in india.

Posted by black_bird on (December 5, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

Its too early to say, india is going to lose. we know, what india can do. they can chase 600 runs at any track, does not matter it is flat or bouncy. double ton for sharma again. he will just smash south africa. don't forget we have ashwin, who is the best allrounder.

Posted by VinodGupte on (December 5, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

rohit sharma will take another 110 matches before mastering the fast bowling in matches other than IPL. until then, we will continue hearing the stories of the "talent" he possesses.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

Rohit is toying and teasing with the SA bowlers here.....

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 5, 2013, 16:09 GMT)

WOW ! what a pull from shikhar dhawan ! IND rising superstar !!

Posted by bouncer709 on (December 5, 2013, 16:09 GMT)

@Harmony111: If Kohli gets out on first ball it proves nothing, if Rohit Sharma is bowled in first ball it also proves nothing.... But looking at help less Rohit sharma against swinging ball, not able to touch ball.. it proves many things...

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

Todays the real test for indian batting.Lets see if they can make 300 plus at Wanderers

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:07 GMT)

Good to see young Shami is living up to his new found fame. He was the only bowler to command respect from the SA blitz. One of the commentators said, the strategy is simple: just play out Steyn and this target will be a piece of cake (considering India's AWESOME firepower). But after Steyn, u have Morkel. Rohit Sharma was at zero after 10 balls. Dhawan is in good touch. So now this is a huge target and SA's bowling is very different from the West Indian's. They have so much more bite.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 5, 2013, 16:07 GMT)

Hahaha. Already the white flags flying high. What if India lose, what if Kohli gets clean bowled ? Come on guys you were talking about India scoring 350+ 2 minutes ago, just seeing the star indian batsman not connecting 2 overs from Steyn makes you put up white flag of surrender ??? Or now if Kohli makes 20 runs you will say oh see he didnt fail first ball. So he is great ! Support your dear team bit. Its no wonder Rohit has not faced any real bowling in 2 years so he has scored all those runs and the mighty 200s, Now comes real test. And yes we are cheering him connecting his bat to steyn's ball.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

Did u see the most difficult debut which could have been by Bilawal Bhatti with all his inexperience even if india chases this in 40 still it will be a bad indian bowling. no one said anything about indian batting every one is talking about india and sa bowling so dont be angry. once aus XI vs world XI type matches were played. today i would love to see an IndoPak XI vs world XI sereis and i m sure many of you would also. nobody defended pak batting so you should not defend ind bowling. Pak pathetic batting Ind pathetic bowling. end of conversation,

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

Dhawan said earlier that he is working on curbing his urge to pull on these bouncy tracks... :(

He has played really well.. so far... should have kept his cool little longer....

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 5, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

Is Reality setting in yet? Just watched a so called hero batsman play and miss for 3 overs in a row....

Posted by HadesLogic on (December 5, 2013, 16:05 GMT)

Why is everyone picking on the Indian pitches? Boss, if our bowling is club nay school level then pitch is out of the equation! And those who are saying India will chase this monster down, please wake up from your reverie.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

Love this guy Steyn.... So persistent with that line and length.... I am sure he has several other tricks up his sleeve... but bowling to his strength and the pitch and the conditions....

TEXT BOOK bowling....

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

Wake up call. I seriously believe Dhoni has a power trip where in he wanted to be the most senior member of his team. Price paid of not including senior bowlers and playing b-grade inexperienced cricketers. Barring virat, no one will pass 50, including Dhoni who is now wanting to learn how to play swing bowling!!

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

this shows how good pakistani bowlers are. in whole previous series no team went. near 300 and now .....

Posted by TAcricfan on (December 5, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

@ Indian fans, GUYS, I have respect for Indian Batters,however If Bowling is not supportive/wicket taking,,,the batting excellence goes down in vain. why did Dhoni decided to bowl first ? Poor guy has no bowling support and he entirely relies on his batters

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

this shows how good pakistani bowlers are. in whole previous series no team went. near 300 and now .....

Posted by golgoal on (December 5, 2013, 16:01 GMT)

@Ishfaq Sofi I agree with you completely. If SA can score 358 then sure as hell Indian batsmen are gonna score 359 and take the game. Steyn or no Steyn. Makes no difference to India.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 16:00 GMT)

@CaptainO:

Quite a useful stat there. Thanks a lot for this.

All Pak fans, read the comment of CaptainO. When Pak played SA on this same ground last year, your so called MIGHTY STRONG bowlers went for 343 runs, what happened that day huh?

And all SA fans, EVEN Pakistan managed to score 300+ on that day facing SA bowlers. I now recall that Afridi had one of his rare good batting days and scored some 89 runs.

So come on India, nothing is impossible. A win here, even off the last ball and with just 1 wicket will really shut the mouth of all these guys here.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 16:00 GMT)

yes I agree wit u ind chase dis tgt bt 1 difficulties is there ind batsman has to come back for ind turf for this task

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

Woww....3 overs & 4 runs...What a great start... First Indian bowlers proving they are the best & now batsmen trying to follow the same path...I was hoping that dhawan would fire today & then Kohli would finish the Job..But it's clear that India is under great Pressure..The way Steyn is bowling..Hats Off really..His bowling like a fine piece of Art

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

indian bowlers should be paired up with pakistani batsmen and send them to play kenya or afghanistan. let them test each others patience.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:58 GMT)

Dhawan so far playing very sensibly.... Leaving the right length ones.. and giving the over pitched ones due treatment....

Posted by grandad40 on (December 5, 2013, 15:56 GMT)

Now every run India scores is a record!!!

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:55 GMT)

shabby, anyone who has an opinion can voice it. That's why the forum is here.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:54 GMT)

Have the feeling that Steyn going to nip one back.... to Rohit..

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 15:54 GMT)

All un-Indian & anti-Indian fans:

Suppose India do lose this match? What will it prove? That India can't chase 350 away from home? That's all? Show me ONE team in the world that can chase even 300 away from home. And also show me ONE team that can chase 350 or even 300 consistently even at home.

Suppose Kohli gets clean bowled for a 1st ball duck. What will it prove? That Kohli can't score 100s chasing 350s away from home? How many batsmen can do that even at home?

I have not give up. I am optimistic for Ind's chances here. Even facing Steyn, India can still chase this. Absolutely nothing is impossible. I remember that 434 match, I had a weird feeling that it will be done and I draw upon that memory today. This Indian team is different than others.

If we do lose there will be no surprise, it won't be a big deal cos we have just landed here, most of our players are quite inexp & they were facing Steyn etc.

But what if India do win? Wouldn't that be the greatest ever ODI win?

Posted by bouncer709 on (December 5, 2013, 15:52 GMT)

@Harmony111: Pitch has nothing to do with full tosses , over pitched bowls, and short pitch ball with wrong lines, that Indian bowlers offered here today to SA batsmen. Don't refer to Match played in Dhaka, just realize that same Pakistan attack bundled India batsmen in their own backyard in last series.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 5, 2013, 15:52 GMT)

5 balls..and all I saw was fishing. Fishing thats what Rohit Sharma was doing there ! Btw take a look at the hawk eye representation of how indians bowled. All too short or full tosses. Compare with recent pakistan tour. Lot more instances of being pitched up, well that is why SA didnt cross 275 in any of those games.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:52 GMT)

Pakistan played 3 odi's and 2 T20's but each time they bowled well and that's how they won those matches!!

but some 'dreamers' never accepted the truth and thought indian bowlers will even do better and its gonna be "easy peasy 3-0 for india" but here we go!!

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

Why do I see empty seats in an India vs South Africa contest, that is baffling to me... Not so baffling to see horrible bowling from India. Zaheer Khan please come back soon!! We need a second bowler with Shami

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

Awesome first over Steyn....no loosener.... perfect length and line....reminded me of Glen Mcgrath.. only few miles faster.......Enjoying the contest...

Hope IND batsmen stand up to it...

Posted by ImpartialExpert on (December 5, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

Wow the Saffa bowlers are extracting a lot of movement and bowing in really good areas. It will be very difficult for us to chase this total. How in the world did our bowlers bowl so badly on this wicket?

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

@desihungama so true lol. even if kohli and raina bowl 50 overs i doubt our pathetic batting will score 300+. Pakistani batsmen don't need any thing special from bowlers to get them out they just need some one to deliver the ball.

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (December 5, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

@Adnan, I second your thoughts. That would be a dream team. Imagine in the days os the two gr8 W's and SRT, the Wall, LAX, Inzi..vow mouth watering prospect. In India every kid wants to bat and no one wants to bowl so no one is coming through the pipeline. @Qaiser, everyone knows we have the worst bowling attack, just like we know PAK cannot bat on any pitch or against any attack, no surprises there. Yes, we have a weakness and that is our bowling I wish we played ZAK and Umesh Yadav. Shami is a gr8 find (per Indian Standards) and I hope he learns a trick or two.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:46 GMT)

Poor bowling still continues from the Indians! They will never learn!!! :p

Posted by gopaldhal on (December 5, 2013, 15:45 GMT)

Eagerly waiting to watch Rain(a) dance with M/s Steyn & Company.

Posted by CaptainO on (December 5, 2013, 15:45 GMT)

In the last two matches played in Johannesburg through 2012-13, all the teams have managed to get 300+ runs in both innings. But nobody has chased successfully. The last ODI was between South Africa and Pakistan. South Africa got 343 while Pakistan manged to get to 309. But considering India's form, India should chase this score.

Posted by Mr.Blacksmith on (December 5, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

Pakistani bowlers know the limits of their batsmen so they restrict their rivals around 200. and Indian bowlers too know their batsmen capabilities so they allow their opponents to reach around 350. so We can assume that India will fall behind the chase. This chase will be a treat to watch.

Posted by henchart on (December 5, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

@wapuser :LOL.Pitch is of Bull Ring and not a dead one found in India.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 5, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

The predictions that India's young new pacers would carve through SA proved to be nothing more than fantasy. Apart from Shami, they looked less than club level. The spinners, a bad idea on this wicket, were predictably hammered. Quinton de Kock proved that he is ready for the big time, and that the decision to bring him into the Proteas was dead right. No question he has cemented his place, and serious consideration should be given to a test berth for him.

Now we wait to see the accuracy of the predictions that India's powerhouse batting will pulverize the SA bowling. While they certainly do not lack in ability, this is a different game from that on the slow tracks of India. They face a very serious examination against a powerful pace attack. This should prove to be an exciting chase.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

i commented yesterday that mohit is no world beater and im glad to see that yadev would have been a better choice he might have gone for runs but would have picked wickets and i also said that ashwin should not play get in a decent allrounder what have SA done got allrounders and seamers in the team if spin is needed duminy can bowl 350 chsing on dead wicket is easy compare to the bouncy SA wicket earlier on amla and dekock were struggling to score runs india need to change bowling coach who ever he is get srinath or kapil as coach z zaheer shpuldve played india bowling one dimentional all right handers

Posted by ksrajavel87 on (December 5, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

India will win this match easily , Mark my words. Sten is no thread for indian, morne morkel wil be the only problem for indians,Today again we can see the excellent century form Virat.If south african medicore batting can score 358 on the flat track so that india can score easily, But problem is we have only 4 batsmen(Raina, Yuvi,Jadeja(sorry to include his name as a batsman)all three hopeless), lets see. Hope for the best

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:40 GMT)

Non indian fans talking about flats pitches or shorts boundary ..

Posted by bouncer709 on (December 5, 2013, 15:39 GMT)

I don't see Indian few Indian fans who used to post during Pakistan match, India is going to lose this match by 150 runs.

Posted by TAcricfan on (December 5, 2013, 15:38 GMT)

Well, India can surely chase on huge totals on home ground tailor made DEAD pitches with no bounce/movement what so ever, They create such pitches at home as don't have an option , their bowling is not even first class level, today is test, lets see how they bat on a REAL cricketing pitch.

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

@Harmony111....i agree the boundaries are small but this track is not really flat, there was some seam, swing n bounce available but the indians just bowled the wrong length the match where india chased 326 against Pak was played in dhaka, a typical flat pitch of the sub continent...there was no seam n swing n hardly any bounce in the pitch n there was dew as well which hampered the spinners but having said that i do appreciate the quality of indian batsman.

Posted by shahnbej on (December 5, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

Match is not over, so please keep your comparison until match is over.

Posted by spot_on on (December 5, 2013, 15:35 GMT)

I wouldn't comment on anything until India are 6 down for 100 something. But still, if Dhoni isn't among that 6, It'd be a nightmare fellas.. we all know what kinda pitch the Saffas have given to the 1st ODI.. Wanderers, and they still complain about flat inidan tracks..

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:35 GMT)

india is the best bating line up he will reach the target

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 5, 2013, 15:32 GMT)

Ind bowling is similar to Pak batting....thats the best example i can come up with...

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:31 GMT)

The pitch has something in it initially.. but the new ball bowlers squandered it by bowling too short...

Wickets in hand is the key here.... If at all India has made early in roads.. it would have been a completely different story.

This pitch is not completely flat... few early wickets...we could have seen a 270ish score than the monster out there...

with asking rate > 7 to start with, India cannot afford to slowly build the chase..... even though thats the way they should...

Just need to keep faith, keep wickets in hand... and see how it goes..

GOOD LUCK India

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

Well as i said india makes batsmen for themselves and others and Pakistan makes bowlers in the same way, they need to exchange some players. As long as Pak bowling giving away 300+ runs is concerned i would say there is a bad day for every one. i expected scores from SA but not this much, bhuvi, shami, ashwin are good bowlers but for bhuvi and shami it was underexposure i would say instead of inexperience but what happend to ashwin i dont know. Still i would want indians to hit steyn and co out of park.

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

Don't worry guys , IND will chase it ! by the way what a bowling attack !!! fielding was superb !!! IND new premier bowler is Virat Kohli !!! what a team !!! It deserve No. 2 spot very much !!!

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

One word. Popgun. Credit goes to Pakistan who showed what a classier bowling unit they have compared to these club bowlers. India have now exceeded over 300 runs in the last 7 out of 9 ODIs....

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

@Muhammad Yahya Khan and et al...seriously?? where were you guys when Ind win a match??do you guys really question only when Ind loses?? when a team chases more than 350 it doesnt matter what kind of pitch it is, that is somtehing which happens rarely?? and it happened twice...you cant even imagine that your team will chase those kind of scores...

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 5, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

SA made 358? oh oh, dont talk dear, Dont u knw that india is superb? :) they got "alien" virat? nd millioner jadeja.. they can.. HEY? SA PITCHEs nd indian pitches r not same? so what, india can.. BUT sa fast bowlers r very quick? So what, u dont understand cricket, they r the best! evn better than CM PUNK!!

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (December 5, 2013, 15:29 GMT)

To many who are grinning coz of the hammering our bowlers took, guess what we know that. We have one of the worst bowling attacks and as ardent fans of cricket we realize that. This is a young Indian side and for the first time without the 4 great batsmen. This is a true test to Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit to mature as future starts of Indian cricket. Even if we lose both the ODI and test series we are fine with it coz these young players are getting experience in facing the world'd best attack on their home ground and will prepare them for the future. So my all non Indian friends laugh/critic/mock all you .want, but we won;t stone our players homes. Everyone has home field advantage and so do we. Live with that.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (December 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

even the poor WI batting managed to chase 280 against India ... Indian bowling is pretty bad....

they should play Shami and 4 all-rounders ...

Posted by BigINDFan on (December 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

Ind sorely missed Ishant Sharma today but Mohit Sharma made up for it :-)

@Albert_cambell - It is a good challenge which Ind will most likely fail given that they have no time to get used to these conditions. I hope the Ind batsmen take up the challenge and come through to prove a point to you and the SA fans. However the bigger point they need to prove is to the Ind bowlers for their continued pathetic performance.

ABD and JP are great but they were made to look dominant just like George Bailey was by this lame Ind bowling attack. MSD and Fletcher need to rethink their strategy. They need effective spinners in the side and really need to groom couple of bowlers to bowl at the death. Kumble was the last Ind bowler to do an effective job. Maybe Malinga can coach them :-)

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

how about a team with indian batters and pakistani bowlers. A deadly combination!!! Looking forward for S.A pace vs Indian batting power.

Posted by Biggus on (December 5, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

"Dhoni defends bowlers", but everyone else is too busy dispatching them into the crowd to have the time.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

@I_Love_My_India

Yep Bhuvi could have been more than useful...

But as every Ind bowler that comes to these fast bouncy pitches... he got carried away by the awesome bounce... and started bowling short..

His strength is bowling up, try to swing both ways and setup the batsman... instead he bowled short and gave them enough time to hit...

Zaheer should share his experience.. Hopefully he will watch his bowling after the match.. and sort this out in the next ODI.

Posted by Desihungama on (December 5, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

I think SA was just battle hardened by playing Pakistan bowlers recently and were able to face Indian bowling with ease. I think the only country that cannot score 300 against India is Pakistan so I think these two should play more often.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

This same SA team struggled to make 250 against PAK on same grounds. This shows the bowling weekness of the INDIAN team.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

now you see what happens to world class batting line.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 15:23 GMT)

Lets see what happens Its not indian flat pitches Remember its South africa

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 15:22 GMT)

king of chase India will win the game what ever bowling attack pitch. dhawan kholi rohit dhoni yuvi raina our brave soldiers are there

Posted by RajeshNaik on (December 5, 2013, 15:21 GMT)

I have always said that Bhuvaneshwar with his limited ability (king if swing or else nothing) is of no good to our team. He is a liability after first 10 overs of the innings. Makes no effort to get wickets if there is no swing as he is afraid of leaking runs, which he does anyway. Shami though goes for runs, takes wickets and provides breakthroughs. Of the present 3 only Shami looks good.

Posted by Dhanno on (December 5, 2013, 15:21 GMT)

@Harmony and other indian defensive fans. Indian team doesnt get chance to get acclimatized because of its own scheduling. SA wanted 3 test series a longer one with practice games but we compressed it and got WI to tour. Indian bowlers, all of them, are maybe young but really very average. And the way they disappear from scene next tour in 4 years will have another set of new bowlers. So please do not criticize others and as someone pointed out Young pakistani bowlers did so much well just few weeks ago. Didnt they ? Lets not get into Shami moulding and what will Kallis do against Steyn discussion. Its Indian team, best indian 11 players visiting SA. The bowlers from this team are what SA are facing and racking up (at last count 320) runs. Lets see what Shami does on this tour and we can discuss how he molded in 3 years time.

That brings us to last question. Are we going to complain now lohli never got chance to acclimatize here, because india will be chasing a mountain soon!

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

See my dear we palyed 8 ODIs all in trott, Bt the S.Africans never reached 270. And last year your so called great batting order was demloished by the greatest bowling attack over the world in India. Do u still remember that, This great batting line was craving fro to reach 200 score. and India s a good team in india only. Not out side India Sorry dear its a sour fact

Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

lol @gsingh7, out of the 350+ chases, how many on the cement-road tracks in India? My prediction, we will lose 3 wkts in the 1st 15 and then when the SA bowlers take it a bit easier, have a couple of 50 partnerships and lumber on to 250 odd.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 15:19 GMT)

Guys no point lamenting that IND landed just now and needed time....

Screaming this hearts out since the tour was announced...

Does it change anything in the future.. Will BCCI budge and arrange a meaningful tours....

I guess if IND wants to at least compete in the Tests, then they better get the Test players, play the ODIs and at least get some practice.... like Zaheer, Umesh, Pujara, Rahane.... let them play the next two ODIs....

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 15:18 GMT)

We will chase herr too whatever ground this one is

Posted by From-Toronto on (December 5, 2013, 15:18 GMT)

It will be proved that Indian team is only good at home conditions in both ODI's and Test cricket.Looks like it will be huge thrashing today.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:18 GMT)

indian team welcome to the world this is not India the pitches are bouncy qnd the boundaries longer!!

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 5, 2013, 15:17 GMT)

Every team whenever they tour practice matches will be on their Itenary for sure..BCCI is very poor and do not care about our pride...if Ind would have played some practice matches prior to the oneday it would have been different now...

Posted by muralidheena on (December 5, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

can't think india will win this one

Posted by Nampally on (December 5, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

India had just one bowler- Shami. The rest looked like club class bowlers with absolutely no clue where to bowl. It was a run fest with Sixers raining from deViliiers & Duminy. India would have been better off with Yadev replacing either Kumar & Mohit- both bowling around 130 KPH. Yadev at 140 KPH would at least be little quicker to get hold of. I was quite puzzled with Kumar's logic- feeding AB with full tosses which promptly went for 6. Even Sammy had hit his full tosses for 6's! India need to go back to drawing board & get their bowlers trained to bowl more intelligently. Dhoni also need to have a plan of action for each batsmen re: field placing. I did not see any point in Dhoni not opening the bowling with Shami instead of M. Sharma. Open with your Best!He has done it for second time in a row. Lastly having Yuvraj purely as a batsman makes little sense when India has better batsmen in Pujara at #4. Rahane & Rayudu are also better batsmen than Yuvraj & Raina in this ODI squad!

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 15:16 GMT)

Dont get too excited yet. Fireworks are still to come and will decide who is the best team

Posted by Moiez89 on (December 5, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

WOW. dat was pretty much expected. The Hosts could hardly score 200 against Pak Bowling Attack. Check the difference here. Easy for SA now, Dale steyn can now show what he is made up of .

Posted by sundersingh on (December 5, 2013, 15:13 GMT)

may be INDIA preserving other fast bowlers for the test matches

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:12 GMT)

conceeding 300 plus runs in last 6 out of 9 innings shows their bowling is nowhere near good and as for batsmen this pitch is bouncy as shown by shami bowling so get ready to be steyned!

Posted by nainil0683 on (December 5, 2013, 15:11 GMT)

Sometimes I don't quiet understand. Is it that modern era batsmen have become super-humans, or the bowlers have been thrown back few centuries??? But when I look at other bowlers in the world, England, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, it starts to feel that we bowlers are bowlers, and batsmen are batsmen. INDIA HAS LOST IT. Totally!!!! I have never seen any Indian team been mauled consistently for a period of time. They do brilliantly in batting. And (-100 * brilliantly) in bowling. Absolute turnover in both departments. Look at how the Pakistanis are bowling. The last over that Junaid Khan bowled in the second ODI against RSA was incredible. He kept David Milller quite with leg-stump Yorkers in the final over. So my observation goes like this:

Difference between India and Pakistan:

Bowling: Pakistani bowlers WANT to bowl. Indian bowlers HAVE TO bowl.

Batting: Indian batsmen WANT to bat. Pakistani batsmen HAVE to bat.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

what is the big deal about INDIA anyway.... always mentioning how they defeated SA at the champions trophy...remember that STYEN was not in that line up when SA lost in the champions throphy... and also i heard that Shammi bowls at around 145kph....hardly saw a delivery going up past 140kph......I'm so happy coz all the indian fan were taking about a whitewash victory for the INDIANS....

Posted by viru-319-219 on (December 5, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Great bowling performance by India..... short and wide Initially ..... came back well and length on body in final overs. Can't complain :( Seeing what extra pace can do on SA pitches , the way Shami bowled Umesh and Ishant should replace Mohit and Jadeja. Indian lineup is capable of winning matches without Sir Jadeja's contribution with bat.

Posted by Ramu444 on (December 5, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Ha ha ha .."..... That is why India wanted to cancel this tour

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Ha Ha, as of now we are getting comments from the Hate-India club members that Indian bowling is really poor and how they can't bowl yorkers etc. No one is talking one cent about the flatness of the track or the small boundaries or anything else. If India lose this match then these guys will continue along these lines cos that is what will suit them in that case.

But suppose India do manage to pull this almost impossible chase then what will happen? Immediately we will see these people change their line of argument. They will begin to say that since 350 was chased then the flat must have been flat. They will say Indians were able to get 4s & 6s on a small ground. They will talk about THAT match and will say that if 434 was chaseable 7 yrs back then surely 350 was easy in 2013. They will tell us how dew helped India in their chase & how India were lucky to win the toss & bowl first. We saw all this when India chased 350 twice vs Aus.

India !!! 434 was done in 06 so 350 is doable too.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 15:06 GMT)

South Africa is the best India is never and will never be a good team

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

indian heroes are now exposed...lets see if they can chase now without indian batting pitches...

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 5, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

Attention kings of chasing, Your target is right now 359. Chase this if you can. I know you chased 360 in Nagpur or pune or whatever ground it is. Now we are giving you a similar chase at the wanderers. Do it if you can.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

I cant believe people compared Jadeja and ashwin with worlds best spinners Ajmal/hafeez/afridi

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

Apart from shami no one looks treating..its better to drop mohit, get yadav in n open the bowling with bhuvi n shami so that he can get openers quickly..I don't think India can chase down easily

Posted by I_Love_My_India on (December 5, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

I thought the Indian bowlers at least Bhuvi will make some impact. Sad to see it did not. Eagerly waiting for Indian reply in batting. Keeping my fingers crossed to take the batsman taking India to win....

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 15:03 GMT)

well didnt hope that from India. Well still good luck India.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 15:03 GMT)

no matter where or what team we play against we are going to be chasing 350+ scores everytime lets see what the batsman do this time.

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 15:02 GMT)

We must applaud india's consistency . Whatever country they bowl in , conceding 350 is a given...lol

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

ABD ...the best batsman in the world. What a genius!!!

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 5, 2013, 14:59 GMT)

(everytime india chased 350 plus they were succesfull ( apart from wc final 2003). hoping that same goes for today. it is same ground were 434 was chased so i am pretty sure indian batting lineup will chase anything above 350 on this flat track with small boundaries. even in last series vs second best side in odis (australia) they chased with ease. now indian batsmen have to chase this target and prove why they are best side in the world.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

@heartbreakerz:

I don't think Bhuvi & Shami played in the CLT20 that was played in SA & I don't think Mohit Kumar got that many games either. Besides, T20 exp of bowling only 4 overs is not exactly applicable in this case. Talking about what Pak bowlers did here a week back, SA were chasing at that time. Batting first and batting second are two different things. This match is being played in J'brug, this is the same place that saw that 434 match. I don't think Pak played an ODI in J'burg, so none of your comparison with Pak bowlers holds. On flat tracks we have seen how Ind have dealt with Pak. Do you remember we cashed 326 vs the so called great Pak bowling in Asia Cup? Where were your bowlers then?

Indian team has just landed in SA and anyone expecting them to straightaway be in top form is expecting a bit too much.

I don't see you or anyone saying anything about the small boundaries here where casual hits are going for 6 too.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 5, 2013, 14:55 GMT)

India selected Mohit Sharma in place of Ishant Sharma, but result is the same.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 5, 2013, 14:53 GMT)

Some time I feel for dhoni. his bowlers are being slaughtered and he cant do any thing. If he selects ishant he is murdered if he selects mohit he is butchered, Shami and bhuvi are no exception and yadav has been erratic. Poor guy. Let batsmen repair the damage.

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 5, 2013, 14:52 GMT)

And now Indian Bowlers gave 300+ 6 times out of last 9 odi (as their batsmen made 5 times).. hmm.... smart competition of scoring runs among the batsmen nd the bowlers!

Posted by BigINDFan on (December 5, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

Ind will certainly lose this match since SA will be scoring at least 80 runs more than they should have on this pitch. Chasing 350+ on this wicket is impossible even for Dhawan and Kohli since the SA bowling will be tight.

MSD missed a trick in not including a leg spinner and not including Yadav instead of Mohit. The one thing Ind needs to solve is have someone bowling at the death like Malinga. Giving away 100 runs in the last 5 hours is just painful for the top ranked ODI side. No matter how good the batting line up is it is pathetic.

The only way Ind will win this game is a miracle from Dhawan and Kohli since the other batsmen are going to struggle against the SA quicks. Of course MSD can take the game away from anybody but this one is just too much even for him.

280 is possible, 350 means SA already has this game in the bag and AB was right in saying Ind are the underdogs in this tour.

Posted by kahvas on (December 5, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

Great, SA will post a massive score and India will depend on the top 3 to chase. Yuvi and Dhoni can support them, but India only has 6 batsman because dhoni is deluded into believing Jadeja is an all rounder. India cannot be a world champ unless it goes with 7 proper match winning top order batsman.

Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

May it never be said Indian bowlers are not talented. Requires special talent to consistently let the opposition massacre you, be it on the flat tracks of Jamshedpur or the spicy wickets of Jo'burg. Oozing with talent our medium pacers!

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 5, 2013, 14:48 GMT)

Indian team selection shocked me.. jadeja, ashwin 2 spinners r in no use, jst to fill 50 overs...

Posted by sundersingh on (December 5, 2013, 14:48 GMT)

you guys not opted for SCORECARD COMPANION... if its there ,you have lots of crash report bcoz of overloading of msgs

Posted by NP_NY on (December 5, 2013, 14:47 GMT)

@Blade-Runner: It's the law of averages mate. You've always predicted against India and have ended on the wrong side 75% of the time this year. You are bound to get one or two right. Congratulations!

Posted by ImpartialExpert on (December 5, 2013, 14:47 GMT)

Terrible death bowling by India. Harsh lesson for the Indian bowlers. What is the coach doing for so long? We may well be chasing 350 again and it's not going to be easy against SA and we havent even acclimatized

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

SA gears up. d valliers n domny firing indian biwling.

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 5, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

Think pink... The pink atmosphere looks beautiful, and the jersey (SA) also ...

Posted by CRIC_FAN94 on (December 5, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

Umesh yadav or Ishu presence would have put india in the good position, Shami was causing a lots of problem to SA batsman ,when they cant play 140+ KPH,it is unfair to ask our batsman to chase 300+ runs

Posted by Temuzin on (December 5, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

So Indian bowlers are doing what they do best. Giving in excess of 300 runs. Now let see if our batsmen will do what they do the best. Chasing down over 300 runs.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 5, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

@ Albert_cambell It feels like Indian batsmen are batting against street level SL bowlers isn't it my SAF brother.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 14:39 GMT)

Sa will post 325 runs if they do it then it's difficult for Indians to chase

Posted by Pindia on (December 5, 2013, 14:38 GMT)

Well played SA. They have shown that if they can fend off Pak spin then India not too much of a problem. It appears set in stone that in the short-medium term India will be chasing high totals and Pak defending low scores...

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

indian batsmen might still win this game for their team but this bowling performance by Indians on a helpful deck leaves a lot to be desired...

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

Dear mr.dhoni pls don't play with yuvraj and jadjha they can do only March pass at the wickets

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

Good to see some people realizing that we cannot have people with similar skills sets cant play together...

Aswin - Jadeja Yuvi - Raina Bhuvi - Mohit

Something I have posted long back....

Team looks good except....

You cannot have all four of the following in the final X1 - only two at a time and rotate..

Batsmen who can bowl --> Yuvi, Raina Bowlers who can bat --> Ashwin, Jadeja

We need to use these as alrounders.. and fill the rest of the team with specialists....

Posted by Nair_saab on (December 5, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

it will be grateful if the channel show some interest in cricket between ads. the worst days of cricket telecast are back

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

Insipid bowling should aid and abet a clean sweep for the Proteas.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 5, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

What an onslaught. As I predicted, SA are having a field day. There is a lot for bowlers on this sporting wkt , but Indian bowlers are too weak to extract anything. SA are looking at somewhere around 300-320.

Posted by CrICkeeet on (December 5, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

Sometimes I like to read Funny books at night! But today mayb i dont hav 2 do that... Reading this IND Vs SA public comments gonna b enough.... specially after the result some mushy nd silly comments surely make me laughing..

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

first odi. first innings and blades are out from fans against bowlers. wait for the other team before passing such judgements.. and as far as ppl not willing to debate. stop passing your conclusion on a forum if you are not willing to debate at all..especially running away after screaming.. @harmony11... ashwin jadeja or any other bowler would not or cannot do anything if you prepare pitches like this. the new rules have been made in such a way that more runs are scored so more ppl stick with odi cricket. sa has not yet won the match. infact they ve not completely finished their innings yet..

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

Nothing new here... India have delivered another Batting Hero, future star to World Cricket...

Some careers end break when they visit certain teams..... but India in all its generosity has setup several international careers.....

Posted by sundersingh on (December 5, 2013, 14:28 GMT)

someone is misguiding our bowlers 1. buvi pitching it short without realizing that his strength is swinging full length, 2. ashwin and jaddu not slowing their pace.. and 3. dhoni should pick 3 seamers and 1 spin

Posted by sundersingh on (December 5, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

this is a prize for the MSD's adamant practice of choosing same 11 for every match without considering any factors... and not realising ground reality.... what MOHIT SHARMA doing there in South Africa...with 130 kph speed.... need to pick ishant or yadav... pls MSD dont spoil ur captaincy record with ur poor thinking at times.... i am damn sure india will lose and it will be good for the indian team..

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

wrong selection. Umesh Yadav should have played instead of one of the swing bowlers Bhuvnesh or Mohit. Probably the pace trio should be Umesh, Bhuvnesh and Shami.

Similarly only one of the two spinners should have played among Ashwin and Jadeja. Probably the latter on his fielding skills. Both Yuvi and Raina shouldnt have played as both are susceptible to pace and the short ball as shown aptly by Mitchell Johnson in the Aussie ODI series. I would sub one of them for Rahane.

Posted by just_chill_chill on (December 5, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

woohooo kohli gets Kock. kohli you beast, you stallion.

Posted by Captain_Tuk_Tuk on (December 5, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

@wapuser Thats why didn't commented yet but I believe India can't win this match against South Africa bowling attack specially with 5 seamers and likes of Styen and Morkel.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 14:19 GMT)

s africa is certainly going to loose if they don't score 300

Posted by jimbond on (December 5, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

SA may easily win this one, but one should remember that ODI tracks in SA are quite different from the Test match pitches. Have been impressed by Shami's bowling. Bhuvaneswar Kumar has not been threatening on these pitches. Mohit Sharma also seems an uninspired selection- merely based on his presence in CSK team. Indian fielding has been quite good. However India has been foolish in playing a main match without playing any tour warm up match.

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 14:17 GMT)

@Harmony111....its not the first time that indian bowlers are getting hammered so they can't be excused n Kallis is coming back from a long break so he was a bit rusty otherwise we all know his stats n indian bowlers are not that inexperienced...infact almost all of them have experience of playing in SA via IPl n Champs league etc....so they can't really be excused specially after seeing a couple of debutants from Pak causing havoc against this very SA lineup just a week back. Let's see how your batsmen go tonight

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 14:15 GMT)

fellows chill Kohli still to bat he is super human

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 14:14 GMT)

india is not used to chase down small score

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

Guys dont come to conclusion before the game even takes half end. Soon u will se who is good n who has shown lower performance. It wud wrong of anti indians to talk bad abt indians. Indians are big entertainer. N so there will be one good performance by man im blues today

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

@heartbreakerz :Don't forget..This is India's Pace attack..Best in the world :) But the main point is that their batsmen would win the match for them.That's the reason SA batsmen are playing with such high RR..They know true ability of Indian Batsmen

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 14:06 GMT)

Wow..Is this the same SA batsmen who were playing against Pakistan? & Pak having young Pacers playing their first match

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 5, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

Awesome innings from De kock. Chance for him to score something big. He has to make full use of this club level bowling attack.

Posted by pradeepchintu on (December 5, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

don't worry,India can chase any target

Posted by just_chill_chill on (December 5, 2013, 13:58 GMT)

@Naveed Raja Pakistan received hammering from Zimbabwe and Ireland also. So according to you, India should go there and lose also?

Posted by Domestica on (December 5, 2013, 13:57 GMT)

The beginning of the defeat from here,,Worth to watch this series to know the reality of so called champions

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 13:57 GMT)

De Kock stands tall for South Africa ! :P

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 5, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

It seems Indian team are not to be given the slightest chance of getting acclimatized and people expect them to be in peak state right from the first ball. It is immaterial to some ppl that Indian bowlers, all of them, are really very young and are on their first ever tour of SA.

Anyways, we just saw what can and will happen when Indian bowlers begin to get used to the new air of SA. We just saw how Shami made Kallis dance to his tunes. Poor Kallis didn't even last one over of Shami when Shami hit his top gear. Keep in mind that Shami is still moulting after making his debut. Imagine what a Steyn would have done to Kallis had he ever faced someone like him.....

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 5, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

wow...on a pitch with some movement n bounce the indian bowlers are showing their class (or lack of it)...the likes of B kumar n Sharma who were supposed to dedtroy the SA batting line up have failed to pock up a single wkt so far n the likes of Ashwin n Jadeja who according to some Ind fans are the best spinners in the world have been smashed all over the ground and haven't been able to even slow down the runrate

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 13:45 GMT)

Team india have to prove they have strong batting line up and they are not flat track bullies' so far doesnt look like they can compete south africa as pakistan did recently

Posted by ThilankaK on (December 5, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

IND bowling attack is fantastic & world class !!! worth to watch they're bowling !! good luck IND for the series !!!

Posted by Vivfan on (December 5, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

gsingh7. It isn't Ashwin who is bowling poorly, take a look at the whole Indian bowling lineup. Worse than Zim

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 5, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

@mzm-- after seeing pakistan batting my appreciation increased ten fold for zimbabwe batting. they defeated pakistan in tests and there is not much gap in these two teams rankings.

Posted by Vivfan on (December 5, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

150 - 0 so far.

Where are those big talking Indian fans boasting about how Shami, B kumar will run through SA?

Posted by tanstell87 on (December 5, 2013, 13:27 GMT)

It is very evident that Ashwin doesnt have it in him to bowl on hard wickets...he will be smashed around through this 5 matches(3 ODIs & 2 tests)...South Africa looking at 400 run target...India might get 240 on this green track...someone like Rahul Sharma, Amit Mishra & Pragyan Ojha would have much more impact than mediocre Ashwin & Jadeja....Umesh Yadav should have played ahead of Mohit Sharma....this CSK policy of MS Dhoni will pull India down...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 13:25 GMT)

Welcome to 'pitches' instead of rubber tracks India!

Posted by ShanNachimuthu on (December 5, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Totally disappointing performance by India. Very ordinary bowling by Bhuvi & Mohit under helpful conditions. SA will score 270+ and India will be bundled out less than 200.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

very ordinary bowling by India no impression on both openers. SA141/0. very welll playing .keep it up.

Posted by mzm149 on (December 5, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

After seeing Indian pace attack, my appreciation of Pakistani bowling has increases many folds. They defeated South African batting giants at their home. Take a bow!!!

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

@ MAR00N5 : Add to it the size of the ground... It has definitely got to be smaller than any of those in India...

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

The partnership between Amla and D Knock tells that Indian bowling is only bowled in their home conditions on a flat dead wickets. I don't know what batsman will do in front of World Pace Attack bowling. Lets see ! :D

Posted by vishal_pintoo on (December 5, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

This series belong to India. Though at the moment SA is cruising with 140 without loss.....Indian players have been liking tracks here to bat. Indian team have more number of match winners than SA n.

Posted by gsingh7 on (December 5, 2013, 13:20 GMT)

just as expected , ashwin is being hit to all parts of ground with his doosras teersa panchvaas. he is going over 6 rpo . if not for csk connection he wud never get to play in odis for india. such poor form from him.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 13:20 GMT)

No matter what the opposition is, India will again be looking to chase a score of 300+

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

@Maroon5 its SA not Indian Pitches

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 13:16 GMT)

@Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist:I hope you are watching the match...I am enjoying it really.Mr Shami & B.Kumar 2 rising stars who were said to destroy SA batsmen,getting hammered instead lol.The main thing is 2nd half of the match where Indian Batsmen would shine.Question is..What would be the target.Because India is really good in chasing runs...

Posted by 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on (December 5, 2013, 13:14 GMT)

come on SA!!! show the Indians who is boss.

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (December 5, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

India should be able to chase 350 with the batting lineup they have.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 5, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

You have to be amazed by haters really. I have never seen them appreciating anything coz they are just filled with negativity to their core. If it was India batting they would have said how lucky India is that 2 catches were just short. Shami is bowling beautifully and Indian fielding has been brilliant. India just came to SA it takes some time to get used to the conditions.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:59 GMT)

india looks bit unlucky

Posted by GoCho on (December 5, 2013, 12:58 GMT)

Thanks Team India for proving my doubts right. Our bowling attack ranks among the worst - marginally above West Indies and Zimbabwe! If the quicks cant get wickets on lively tracks, pray why are they in the team?

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:58 GMT)

india gave some piece of mind to south africa while keeping yadav out

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

SA is milking the Indian bowlers and with Indias depth bowling SA are in for a feast

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:52 GMT)

Indian bowlers are hung over from playing excessively in India welcome to real pitches kids

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

Hmmm if shami bowls at express pace then irfan junaid wahab and bhatti are super fast ???? hehehe

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:48 GMT)

82/0 vry well going SA. keep it up. u will b winner.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (December 5, 2013, 12:35 GMT)

Great start by India...Bowlers showing their talent :P

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

@ Richard Davis : I was referring to the Lucky Charm of Indian team, Blade-Runner and not Blade-Ranner.... Also, the comment u r referring to has come after mine, so....

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

The one-sided battle remark was in favour of India... so I don't know where you get the India bashing from?

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

You must be BLIND to not spot the right length to bowl on this track....

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

b kumar vs styen seems yraj vs ajmal lol

Posted by bhushanB on (December 5, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

As always IND bowlers deceived by the bounce on the pitch.... Bhuvi doing a Ishant here...

(Almost) All the boundaries are scored off short pitch deliveries....

Come on guys, get back on track.. Hope Shami learns a bit from what others have failed to do... pitch it up... please..

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 12:11 GMT)

on paper youare right but in view of poor performance of south africa against quality pace you can think about anything

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

Best Of Luck India team to SA, tour,

Posted by Yousafahmed11 on (December 5, 2013, 11:57 GMT)

Men in blue are in the field. This will be a one sided battle. Kohli will smash Steyn and Co. all over the park.

Posted by aswin05 on (December 5, 2013, 11:55 GMT)

@dganger Umesh Yadav is a precious talent preserved only for tests by BCCI. If u can see the squad announced for the ODIs, he is not present even in the 15 member squad.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 11:53 GMT)

India can't win in South Africa with this experience south African team.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

interesting one-sided battle?? lol.. Looks like people here in the quest of bashing india are forgetting to atleast make sense with what they are saying..

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

India can't win in South Africa with this south African team.

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 11:38 GMT)

yes 3 bests plyer com in sa side that good for sa ihope tody sa will win this match

Posted by Dev_Sachinfan on (December 5, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

And the war begins....!!!

Posted by che280410 on (December 5, 2013, 11:31 GMT)

SA playing 11 is not correct , I guess the one below the indian planying 11 is correct Also India could have done much better by including somebody like Irfan instead of Jadeja in these conditions , may be a rajat bhatia is also a good option

Posted by dganger on (December 5, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

I dont understand why Dhoni dosnt give Umesh Yadav chance? Where on earth this lad will get better opportunity to bowl? Agreed he can be little erratic but he is one of those raw material who needs to be nurtured and should be given confidence. He is the only bowler to bowl at a pace of 150 + ( consistently did this during Aus tour)...at times Dhoni really puzzles me with his obvious biased ness and rigid choices with regards to some players.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (December 5, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Today B.Kumar will get an upper hand performance then Steyn.

Posted by android_user on (December 5, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

best wishes men in blue

Posted by saketh1992 on (December 5, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Go India Go !! Win or loss Doesn't matter!! 1.2 Billion Behind you !!

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 5, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

SA warriors in pink are ready for a field day. This is gonna be an interesting one-sided battle, specially the part of Steyn ripping thru the opposition.

Posted by   on (December 5, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

so here we go this is the test for indian batting

Posted by Pindia on (December 5, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

Chance for India to prove their number one odi status against a first choice SA side. India's batting should triumph over SA bowling but this series will sort out how good India really are. If they can take the test series they should be the undisputed number one team across formats soon. However, if Pak can sort out their batting then the old rivalry may become a big issue once again. The Pakistan bowling attack looks like it can be a world beater too. But Rohit Sharma, Shikar Dhawan , Virat Kohli and Dhoni is a formidable quartet- are they good enough to do it in SA, Australia and England. Probably depends on whether Shami, Yadav and perhaps someone like Aaron can step up with pace, bounce and swing. Also can one of the Indian spinners take wickets worldwide? Indian batting + Pak bowling would be an unbeatable combination! 2014/2015 will reveal all...

Posted by wapuser on (December 5, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

Well yeah..Here Comes D Steyn, to remov the steyns.;-)

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