South Africa v India, 2nd ODI, Durban December 8, 2013

South Africa cruise to series win

  shares 618

Cullinan: India not playing like a No. 1 team

South Africa 280 for 6 (De Kock 106, Amla 100, Shami 3-48) v India 146 (Tsotsobe 4-25, Steyn 3-17) by 134 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

India made significant changes to their bowling attack, played on a surface far more suited to them than the Wanderers was - a slower Durban track - and showed some improvement from Thursday, but the end result was still the same. They conceded too many runs to South Africa's opening pair and their own top order were shot out to leave the series decided with a game to play.

South Africa, in fifth place on the ICC's one-day rankings, will consider this a major coup. AB de Villiers had slammed suggestions they were underdogs because of India's position at the top of the list, because he believed home conditions would give his men a sizeable advantage. He has been proved right.

With minimal time to adapt to South African surfaces, India's batsmen have yet to present the technique required to prosper against pace and short-pitched bowling while their seamers have yet to get a measure of the lengths required of them. Mohammed Shami was again the most impressive of the pack, using the slower bouncer and yorker to good effect but even with turn on offer, India could not stop Hashim Amla and Quinton de Kock, who both scored centuries.

They paced their partnership to perfection, starting fairly slowly, milking the bowling, scoring with ease and then accelerating at the right times. In the process, Amla became the fastest to 4,000 ODI runs, achieving the feat in 81 innings, seven quicker than Viv Richards. De Kock's hundred made him only the third South African, after Amla and Herschelle Gibbs, to score back-to-back centuries in ODIs, and maintained his 100% conversion rate of fifties into hundreds at this level.

De Kock offered one chance early on. He was on 13 when he edged off Shami but the ball fell short R Ashwin at first slip. Apart from that, de Kock and Amla's partnership was flawless. They scored all around the field and by the 11th over, Dhoni was already searching for options.

He introduced spin but Ashwin and Suresh Raina posed little threat. He tried the medium pace of Virat Kohli, which was also ineffective. With the South African batsmen in no rush and runs available, India were facing a total in the region of 300.

Boundaries were not a priority for either Amla or de Kock - they did not hit a single six - but they found them on occasion. De Kock seemed the more aggressive but Amla's strike rate was just as high. Both reached their half centuries off 57 balls before de Kock overtook Amla.

His third hundred came with a single off Ishant Sharma and he looked to up the ante. He swept Ashwin, hoping to clear square leg, but found Rohit Sharma to end his second successive century opening stand with Amla on 194.

Given their platform, South Africa chose to send AB de Villiers in at No. 3, instead of Jacques Kallis, but the plan backfired. De Villiers was stumped after stretching forward to hit Ravindra Jadeja down the ground and he became the second wicket to fall in the second Powerplay.

It was in that period that India pulled South Africa back. Ravindra Jadeja was the architect of the stranglehold as he spun the ball and varied his lengths cleverly. Between overs 35 and 48, India gave away only 66 runs and dismissed JP Duminy, David Miller and Kallis, who was sent in at No.6.

All that unraveled when Ryan McLaren and Vernon Philander took 20 runs off the final over to set up a competitive target. By the ninth over of the reply, the game was up.

Shikhar Dhawan began the demise when he cut a Dale Steyn ball to backward point, Virat Kohli was undone by a slightly short Lonwabo Tsotsobe ball that he he tried to play to third man but sent to the keeper, Rohit Sharma also succumbed to that length, finding Hashim Amla short midwicket when he tried to pull, and Ajinkya Rahane chased a short, wide one and was given caught behind - though replays suggested he might have missed it. At 34 for 4, India would have known they were unlikely to get the runs required, so they needed the rain.

A drizzle began to drip in the 16th over and South Africa brought on JP Duminy to speed things up and get to 20 overs. The rain grew heavier in the 19th over and Vernon Philander was racing back to his mark to complete it. With the fifth ball, he had Dhoni push at one just outside off, de Kock dived to his right and took the catch one-handed to end the Indian challenge.

The only thing that made it worse for them was that the heavens closed and they had to bat out the rest of the innings against a South African attack that has been relentless. That India lost their 10th wicket at the same time South Africa had lost their first showed just how differently the two innings had panned out.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

Comments have now been closed for this article

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    Quinton De Kock is definitely the next big thing for South African cricket, a fantastic talent, back to back hundreds just shows wat a bright prospect he is for SA. As far as India's batting is concerned its a clear case of lack of application to adjust to the conditions, they have to fight it out, Dhawan cant just play on the up, Suresh Raina needs to get a score, Rohit and Virat have to lead by example. The bowlers are clueless, one just hopes they get their length right before the test series, cant expect Ashwin and Jadeja to win you games overseas, its high time Ishant Sharma steps up and delivers, he has been there in International cricket for 6 years now, this is a good team but it needs to quickly reassess their gameplan before the test series.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | December 11, 2013, 10:29 GMT

    @sdqs_23. They leveled a series last time.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    @ Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist you are right that everybody looses away matches, but India looses more if we take into account the top 4 nations in cricket. Pakistan could easily be in the top 4 so I would not want to exclude them as well. India are not a bad team, but need to up their game in foreign conditions. India should equip their players with the necessary skills by getting a few venues where the ball does a bit.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    There is a reason people are making a big fuss when India looses. Its because the fans of the Indian team makes as if they are invincible before a series and just to be shown how good they really are. Before this series it was said that India would whitewash SA in the ODI's by +90% of indian fans. After seeing what they did against Australia in that series on those docile wickets. When SA scored 350 plus runs the arrogance came through and we had posts like that score is easy and they will chase it down no fuss. How this series brought them back to earth. Showed where there batsmen were in this world game. Average batsmen with weak techniques who average above 50. Lets take amla for instance. He is averaging more than 100 in indian conditions, but fans say he is not good on turning wickets. This is the reason why other countries fans are so against india. They have too much arrogance for their own good.

  • POSTED BY Fijicricket on | December 11, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    @ Salman Khan on (December 9, 2013, 10:51 GMT) India has won more ODIs overseas than in India this year. Beat every team in Champions Trophy in England and then beat Windies in the Caribbean and Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe. Its not flawed ICC ranking but more so flawed factual info that Pakistan fans have. Could all Pakistan fans please make comments based on facts rather than wishful thinking. You lot are the only ones who think that the number one team should be Pakistan who cant even beat Afghanistan or Zimbabwe in away games!lol

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 11, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    @Greatest Game, so what's your point? Is it a sin to lose from 2007-2013 and a virtue to lose in 2006 and before? I don't get it! Try something else. Intellectual Honesty please - is India the only team that loses overseas? Answer my question. Come up with facts and figures. Not just deep hopes, deeper opinions and deepest wishes.

    Next, @ everybody else, I was talking about test series only in my previous post. ODI is cricket too, as we all know. Now, I don't even want to go there - be it SA or Australia or England or Pakistan or.............I'm sparing the double standard trolls from their self-inflicted embarrassments. Cheers!!!

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 11, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    People are confirming and reconfirming that India loses overseas series as though India is the only country that loses overseas. I thought of bringing some facts, as opposed to opinions, to the fore. The following is the list of overseas series losses for SA since their readmission into international cricket:

    vs WI in 91/92, vs India 96/97, vs Australia 97/98, vs England 98, vs Australia 2001/02, vs Pakistan 2003/04, vs Sri Lanka 2004, vs India 2004/05, vs Australia 2005/06, vs Sri Lanka 2006

    Righto, is SA immune to overseas losses? No. Is Australia immune to overseas losses? No, we beat them when they were at the top and the brown-washes are common place to this day. Is England immune to overseas losses? No. What about Pakistan and Sri Lanka? No. So, why do people say that India can't win overseas and that India can win only in India? May be that's what they desperately wish to be a fact. No matter how hard they squint, their baseless opinion can't become a fact. Simple as that!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 10, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    @ Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist. I have no idea what you are going on about? SA have not lost an away series in 8 years. Eight years!!!!! India were beaten away and at home by England within 18 months!

  • POSTED BY Temuzin on | December 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    Very well said Dravid_gravitas.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 10, 2013, 19:07 GMT

    People are making it to be a big deal whenever India loses overseas but the same people go quiet when other teams lose overseas. Didn't SA, England, Australia lose embarrassingly overseas? SA have the dubious distinction of not just losing but choking time and again. Do I mean to say it is ok then for India too to lose overseas? No. People are going hammer and tongs when India loses but it seems it is ok for the other teams to lose overseas. I'm pointing out the self-contradictory drivel and double standards of such trolls. I'm proud of my team and I want them to win in alien conditions too. Looks like the haters aren't proud of their respective teams and so it is ok for them if their respective teams lose overseas. As soon as their teams lose overseas, the pitches suddenly become difficult dustbowls as opposed to their claims that subcontinent pitches are batting paradises. Their teams losing overseas is not due to lack of skills to play spin but due to doctored dustbowls!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    Quinton De Kock is definitely the next big thing for South African cricket, a fantastic talent, back to back hundreds just shows wat a bright prospect he is for SA. As far as India's batting is concerned its a clear case of lack of application to adjust to the conditions, they have to fight it out, Dhawan cant just play on the up, Suresh Raina needs to get a score, Rohit and Virat have to lead by example. The bowlers are clueless, one just hopes they get their length right before the test series, cant expect Ashwin and Jadeja to win you games overseas, its high time Ishant Sharma steps up and delivers, he has been there in International cricket for 6 years now, this is a good team but it needs to quickly reassess their gameplan before the test series.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | December 11, 2013, 10:29 GMT

    @sdqs_23. They leveled a series last time.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    @ Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist you are right that everybody looses away matches, but India looses more if we take into account the top 4 nations in cricket. Pakistan could easily be in the top 4 so I would not want to exclude them as well. India are not a bad team, but need to up their game in foreign conditions. India should equip their players with the necessary skills by getting a few venues where the ball does a bit.

  • POSTED BY on | December 11, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    There is a reason people are making a big fuss when India looses. Its because the fans of the Indian team makes as if they are invincible before a series and just to be shown how good they really are. Before this series it was said that India would whitewash SA in the ODI's by +90% of indian fans. After seeing what they did against Australia in that series on those docile wickets. When SA scored 350 plus runs the arrogance came through and we had posts like that score is easy and they will chase it down no fuss. How this series brought them back to earth. Showed where there batsmen were in this world game. Average batsmen with weak techniques who average above 50. Lets take amla for instance. He is averaging more than 100 in indian conditions, but fans say he is not good on turning wickets. This is the reason why other countries fans are so against india. They have too much arrogance for their own good.

  • POSTED BY Fijicricket on | December 11, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    @ Salman Khan on (December 9, 2013, 10:51 GMT) India has won more ODIs overseas than in India this year. Beat every team in Champions Trophy in England and then beat Windies in the Caribbean and Zimbabwe in Zimbabwe. Its not flawed ICC ranking but more so flawed factual info that Pakistan fans have. Could all Pakistan fans please make comments based on facts rather than wishful thinking. You lot are the only ones who think that the number one team should be Pakistan who cant even beat Afghanistan or Zimbabwe in away games!lol

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 11, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    @Greatest Game, so what's your point? Is it a sin to lose from 2007-2013 and a virtue to lose in 2006 and before? I don't get it! Try something else. Intellectual Honesty please - is India the only team that loses overseas? Answer my question. Come up with facts and figures. Not just deep hopes, deeper opinions and deepest wishes.

    Next, @ everybody else, I was talking about test series only in my previous post. ODI is cricket too, as we all know. Now, I don't even want to go there - be it SA or Australia or England or Pakistan or.............I'm sparing the double standard trolls from their self-inflicted embarrassments. Cheers!!!

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 11, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    People are confirming and reconfirming that India loses overseas series as though India is the only country that loses overseas. I thought of bringing some facts, as opposed to opinions, to the fore. The following is the list of overseas series losses for SA since their readmission into international cricket:

    vs WI in 91/92, vs India 96/97, vs Australia 97/98, vs England 98, vs Australia 2001/02, vs Pakistan 2003/04, vs Sri Lanka 2004, vs India 2004/05, vs Australia 2005/06, vs Sri Lanka 2006

    Righto, is SA immune to overseas losses? No. Is Australia immune to overseas losses? No, we beat them when they were at the top and the brown-washes are common place to this day. Is England immune to overseas losses? No. What about Pakistan and Sri Lanka? No. So, why do people say that India can't win overseas and that India can win only in India? May be that's what they desperately wish to be a fact. No matter how hard they squint, their baseless opinion can't become a fact. Simple as that!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 10, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    @ Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist. I have no idea what you are going on about? SA have not lost an away series in 8 years. Eight years!!!!! India were beaten away and at home by England within 18 months!

  • POSTED BY Temuzin on | December 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    Very well said Dravid_gravitas.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 10, 2013, 19:07 GMT

    People are making it to be a big deal whenever India loses overseas but the same people go quiet when other teams lose overseas. Didn't SA, England, Australia lose embarrassingly overseas? SA have the dubious distinction of not just losing but choking time and again. Do I mean to say it is ok then for India too to lose overseas? No. People are going hammer and tongs when India loses but it seems it is ok for the other teams to lose overseas. I'm pointing out the self-contradictory drivel and double standards of such trolls. I'm proud of my team and I want them to win in alien conditions too. Looks like the haters aren't proud of their respective teams and so it is ok for them if their respective teams lose overseas. As soon as their teams lose overseas, the pitches suddenly become difficult dustbowls as opposed to their claims that subcontinent pitches are batting paradises. Their teams losing overseas is not due to lack of skills to play spin but due to doctored dustbowls!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 10, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    @ Anand Palwankar confidently writes "It will be on track very soon. Sudden complete changes in playing conditions is the problem ... BCCI should think it seriously next time how important some practice games are..."

    It will not get on track. India is no match for SA.

    The problem is not "sudden changes in conditions," but that Indian cricket is played in the easiest batting conditions possible. Success will come when Indian cricket is played on real pitches - not flat tracks.

    You write, " BCCI should think it seriously next time how important some practice games are…" Unfortunately, BCCI rejected CSA's schedule, which included the PRACTICE GAMES you say India needs, a longer ODI series allowing MORE TIME for Indian players to adapt to conditions, & games in stadiums with conditions MORE SUITED to India. Truly, the BCCI were offered EXACTLY the schedule you say the Indian team needed!

    It wil not get on track this time, but hopefully the future will see better India tours.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 10, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    @ fguy writes "remember for many this is the first away tour. Give them some time for they've the talent. Remember these guys have already in their young career won more World Titles then SA have in their entire history."

    First away tour?? Are you serious?? Did you really write that? In the last year this team played in the Champion's Trophy, toured Zimbabwe, played a triangular tour in the West Indies, & the A team toured SA. Even the "new" Shami toured Zim, & SA with the A team. Even Mohit went to Zim and WI. ALL HAVE PLAYED MULTIPLE AWAY TOURS!!!!!

    It seems that you are creating excuses to justify the hammering of this incompetent, so-called #1 team? It is simply not true to say that "for many this is the first away tour."

    And please remember that these guys have already in their "young" career lost more games to SA than they have won ICC tournaments! (Of the 'young' only Ashwin, Kholi & Raina were in the WC squad - & even their careers are not exactly 'young.')

    Pitiful excuses!

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 10, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    @ Anand Palwankar confidently writes "It will be on track very soon. Sudden complete changes in playing conditions is the problem ... BCCI should think it seriously next time how important some practice games are..."

    It will not get on track. India is no match for SA.

    The problem is not "sudden changes in conditions," but that Indian cricket is played in the easiest batting conditions possible. Success will come when Indian cricket is played on real pitches - not flat tracks/roads/minefields.

    You write "BCCI should think seriously..." Is it not true that the BCCI rejected CSA's schedule, which included the PRACTICE GAMES you say India needs, a longer ODI series allowing MORE TIME for Indian players to adapt to conditions, & games in stadiums with conditions MORE SUITED to India. BCCI rejected EXACTLY the schedule the Indian team needed, & then blamed CSA!

    It will not get on track because India are on the wrong track.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | December 10, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    @Naresh28: Thanks. The present bunch of cricketer do not seem to care for correct footwork. I remember long time back, Jaisimha was called in to fill one of the injuries in the Indian Team touring Australia. Jaisimha was hauled into the Test XI straight away, the day after his arrival. He played brilliantly in both the innings & either he got a century or high 90's in one of the innings. Jaisimha had a copy book perfect footwork, defence & superb swing of the bat. Here is an example when someone with correct technique succeeding just a day after a long flight to Australia. No problems of adaptability! Dhoni keeps giving lame excuses about schedules, Top batting Failure, Bowling failure but never once admits the existing deficiencies in his XI or the squad, some of them are his own creations. Pujara is the best equipped batsman in the Squad. He has been kept out of XI by Dhoni based on "personal issues"!. Ashwin can show up the rest with his footwork but lacks discipline to bat #4!

  • POSTED BY adithyakv on | December 10, 2013, 13:37 GMT

    @Just_Sam, your stats are meaningless... Out of 40 "foreign soils" 300+ scores, 21 of them were in the subcontinent in either Pakistan, Dhaka or Sri Lanka. I haven't included our exploits against Kenya in Nairobi or Bermuda in West Indies over here.

    It's not shocking that we lost these games. You win and lose games. Poms and Aussies come to India and lose as well... It's just the abject ineptitude with which we lost them, as though we forgot to play cricket.

    As many of my cynical friends on the Social Media have opined, India will arrange bilateral one-day series with Zimbabwe, Bangladesh in quick succession and get back to number 1 and we will fail to remain competitive abroad.

  • POSTED BY sdqs_23 on | December 10, 2013, 12:48 GMT

    Yes its early to call rohit and dhawan, but Virat kohli is legend he scores 17 centuries in 124 ODI 5154 Run AVG 51.54 shows his class and the most important thing for kohli whenever he perform India has won match and dont forget Dhoni but dhoni need to play in South Africa in 4th number because he is in form. After 4 year he will get 10000 mark.

    I have a question to Fast_Track_Bully : when India have old legends can india won a single series in South Africa ?

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 12:03 GMT

    India's dismal performance with the bat( for bowling proved true to its sorry reputation) on SA green-topped bouncy pitches just reaffirmed what has been an Achilles heel for the Indian batting juggernaut whenever they are playing away from home! unlike Pakistan who were hammered in UAE and bounced back strongly in Saf's own backyard, i dont think India can do much less than rolling down and play dead before the rejuvenated South African team not only in ODi series but in the upcoming Tests!! Mark my words the torture is far from over for alot is yet to come in the longest version of the game where temperaments, techniques and character would be put to a stern test by the Safs Pace battery which would pummel this already battered listless Indian team to raw!!!

  • POSTED BY Nainbaba on | December 10, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    its so early to call Kohli, Dawan and Rohit as "legends" only for the performance of 2 series and that is in India. they can't even face fast bowlers of SA. Indian team always be Tiger at home and Cat at outside India. But still Pakistan defeated them in their home series.

  • POSTED BY sdqs_23 on | December 10, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    @ Fast track bully : Why man dont you think Kohli and Dhoni is indian legend, Kohli is the only player who have guts to broke sachin record. India is peforming well in asia they need to work on foreign tour where ball swing. I think indian batsman need to respect bowler first 10 to 15 over no need to play big shots or drive when the bowl getting old they need to play stroke as all we know they are good stroke player and pure timer.

    I Just comment if you lost match you need to accept our defeat because South Africa simply out class India in their own codition

    No one Team mean they defeat any team in any part of the world in any codition like Australia 1999 to 2011

    I am from Pakistan but i wish Indian team play like a champion.

  • POSTED BY Fast_Track_Bully on | December 10, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    @sdqs_23. I cannot find any 'legends' in the current Indian team. All legends retired longtime ago. Does anyone called Dhvan and Rohit as legends to you? @Ausie_the_Great. Your team lost 4-0 in test and 3-2 in ODIs against same India. Same thing happening to India in their away series - nothing more.

  • POSTED BY sdqs_23 on | December 10, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    India never win a series in South Africa

    If India chase 15 time 300 + run so how many time he defend 250 + run in last 15 ODI in which they score 250 run and win.

    If India is number 1 why there expert put lame excuses on TV channel Pitch is fast and bouncy. Every home team have right to made pitch by it own style because india never made bouncy and fast pitch in india.

    No one said why india lost two ODI. They only said Why India had lost by 141 and 134 runs

    India have so many lengends but how much match they have except kohli and dhoni.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 10, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    India Bashers, please read carefully - Indian team has the maximum scores of over 300+, 77 to be precise and of which 40 times 300+ scores have come on foreign soil. Total of 15 matches have been won while chasing, which is a world record and out of these fifteen, 7 matches have been won on foreign grounds. Also India is the only country to cross 400+ four times and have another 15 scores between 350-399 (another world record). Other Nations With Max 300+ Scores - Aus(74), Eng(28), WI(29), SA(53), NZ(37), SL(46), Pak(55), Zim(20), Kenya(3).

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 10, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    @nampally - You are sooo correct "Lack of foot movement" The trigger movement is no longer visible. Hand-eye coordination can only be succeed with Shewag type players. This puts a case up for Gambhir. Tendulkar had the best. Rahane of the new lot uses his crease well - I wish he was slightly taller - like Dravid. Cullinan of SA pointed the same observation.

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    I've been the comments frm either side of the viewers... One favoring India (either Indians or others) second criticizing India (either again, Indians or others)... However, the response is not alike No. 1 Cricket Team... We shud hv viewed a real fight from No. 1 ODI Team... which is really missing... I know everyone knows the batting flaws of India abroad and bowling flaws of India are Universal at homeland, too. A bowling coach like Wasim Akram, Brett Lee, Wash, Ambrose could work...

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | December 10, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    @Al_Bundy1:

    Shikhar Dhawan did nothing wrong when he mocked at Shane Watson for his limp. Watson & others had done exactly the same to Dhawan in the prev ODI when Dhawan was cramping up in the chase after entering 90s. You should know the full picture before criticizing one of your own players.

    When did Kohli ever say that the Zim tour would be good practice for the SA tour? Why do you have to make things up?

    What are you frustrated at? That India lost 2 ODIs? India have won many more all over the world in the last 3 years and more imp, they have won that really matter.

    SA is the same team that was thrashed 1-4 in SL, do you know that? Isn't it true that SA can win only at home (although they lost to NZ & Pak at home too).

    Didn't Steyn go for 89 runs in 10 overs in Gwalior & SA gave 400 runs to India? If that was flat track then isn't Steyn also dependent on fav conditions to do well?

    Be critical but not maliciously critical.

  • POSTED BY sdqs_23 on | December 10, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    Very funny to see comment of indian experts. The put lame excuses for e.g. not enough time for practice, Ground is smaller, pitch is fast since 1984, ground have lots of garbage etc. why they accept South Africa Outclass simple when India lost First match by 141 run so we understand they need time to adjust in the South Africa climate but after 3 to 4 days gap they again lost this mean clearly they only perform in their own coditions and the last thing if South Africa beat India in their final ODI just imagine how shamefull performance they do. India needs to first built their inning for first 15 over then play attacking short and kept in their mind they play in South Africa not in India.

    JUST WAIT AND WATCH LAST ODI

  • POSTED BY Monoz1976 on | December 10, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    We can't expect Indian batsmen to perform well in tests as they were below par in their favourite format (ODI )where their strength lie. Current Indian team lacks the quality of "legends"/ "greats" after the retirement of Sachin and Dravid. We can't expect nothing than complete humiliation in both ODIs and tests unless Saffas decide to give a go for their emerging players like Elgar, Hendrics, Levi, Van Jarsveld, Viljoen, Piedt. resting the players over 30 years of age like Kallis, Smith, Amla and Steyn. Even then, victory is highly unlikely for India. So, they should give it a try to settle for a more respectful defeat.

  • POSTED BY C0l0mb0 on | December 10, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    Seeing this kind of pathatic performance make me feel damn good about how SL played in SA. SL struggle in the beginning but they come up really hard when matters. I still remember how SL chase 300+ runs in SA. No matter what SL officers done to SL cricket, SL players give their 100%. Proude to be Sri Lankan.

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    even if india is not able to win a single game dont make a mess of it let the s/a team come upon our dry sppining wickets it will be a turn around they will choke the same way as we are and remember this is a young inexpirience side its just a start letswait and watch but one thing is there my team here is dhawan rohit pujara kohli dkartik dhoni ashwin mshami zaheer ishant uyadav forone dayers and vijay replacing kartikfor tests12thman jadeja reserves rayadu rahane bkumar

  • POSTED BY MAK123 on | December 10, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    Why is it so difficult for the Indian team management to understand that their only answer to the current woes lies in promotion of Ravi Jadeja's promotion up the order. Dhoni must realize that the most technically correct batsman in his team is Jadeja, who is being wasted at number 6 or 7. This particularly shows when the technique of the so called explosive top order comprising Dhawan, Kohli and Sharma is sadly exposed. Ravi Jadeja seems to have a lot of time playing against the fast bowlers contrary to the Dhawans and the Kohlis who are trying to hide their deficiencies by faking agression against one of the most dangerous bowlers like Steyn. Please promote Jadeja to number 3 or 4 if you want to see team India putting up a fight in the 3rd ODI.

  • POSTED BY sak00n on | December 10, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    @ Al_Bundy1 : you are absolutely right buddy.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 10, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    I am tired of India Bashers who keep claiming that India wins at home on Tailor Made pitches. But still you need to out smart and play better than the opponent to win. England won the Ashes at home against Oz but now Oz is dominating England in home series. Now nobody is cribbing that Oz and Poms win only at Home. Also nobody is yelling that SA winning at home on Tailor Made pitches, which clearly suit their bowlers and batsmen more than the visitors. I think all this is reserved for Team India only.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | December 10, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    All our flat track bullies have been brought to earth. Mr Dhawan - do you feel like mocking Shane Watson anymore? Mr. Kohli - did you really think smashing Zimbabwe bowlers all over the park will give you match practice for South Africa series? Now that your position is on the line, don't you think you should handed Parvez Rasool India cap against Zimbabwe? You all need to learn from Hashim Amla. He is the best batsman in the world right now. Yet he is so humble.

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 4:09 GMT

    first of all congrats to sa for their series win and india have no excuse because durban had no souch bounce like wanderers .above all pak also came here shortly before and won the series against them. ind have to build a strong side for overseas.the top three must have to spend time at crease then it is easy to go on if also runs are coming slow say 29 /0 in 10 overs.in durban when ashwin and jadeja were batting then it seems the wicket has nothing in it. if wickets were there then it could have been a dif story.pace attack was not bad.but the balls must be of fuller lengththan short or good length.hope india succeed in tests with vijay ,pujara and zaheer.manoj tiwary can be a good idea.as series defeat india can play and test ambati rayadu in middle order.in middle orderdinesh kartik is the man for india playing overseas

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    India shows their weakness to swing bowling. They do not behave as the number 1 team in the world. Very poor batting. All heroics seems to be in Indian wickets. Big names keep on failing - Kohlis arrogance has dissapeared for sometime.

  • POSTED BY aj_mer on | December 10, 2013, 1:58 GMT

    I feel this indian team should have a bowling coach as bruce reid who when coached team india bowlers in australia series in 2003-04 they did exceedingly well there. They should have a bowling coach or consultant of the same country where they tour so the bowling consultanat knows the condition well,& can guide indian bowlers on which length to bowl in the know conditions to him.

    For e.g. Makhaya Nitini or Shaun Pollock should be consulted on tour to South Africa, Bruce Reid or Glen Mcgrath on tour to Australia & so on.

  • POSTED BY on | December 10, 2013, 1:31 GMT

    India did a great job. Well done Indian Team. They knows importance of Next game. Will perform much better will win by 10 wickets...oops

  • POSTED BY theCricketPurist on | December 9, 2013, 23:58 GMT

    Congratulations to South Africa. They seem to be building a decent ODI unit.

    I see a lot of Pakistan and Sri Lanka supporters using this series as an opportunity to make fun of India. This is really silly. No matter how 'weak' the Indian team is, they are far better than your teams (in any conditions). At least they are invincible at home. Your teams are not even that.

    Sri Lanka are the true chokers, and not RSA. RSA is a good ODI team which never won a big event, but it is SRL which keeps losing in finals.

    As for Pakistan, the series win against RSA was not really a big achievement for you guys. To be honest, RSA were simply bored of playing Pak for so long (almost whole of 2013). After winning in UAE their sights were on India, and the silly stop-gap series was just a formality.

  • POSTED BY srna on | December 9, 2013, 23:03 GMT

    come on sadeep patil in 1bilion population you cant give a good top 4 players.

  • POSTED BY dj_dhananjay on | December 9, 2013, 22:42 GMT

    I fail to see the point of leaving Cheteshwar Pujara out of the team !!! He is definitely the most technically sound batsman India have...and is certainly better than Rahane & Raina .!!! You need someone like Pujara to hold one-end up - all the top 6 cannot be stroke players..!!! India should play Zaheer for the last ODI - to assess his fitness & impact.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | December 9, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    Indian top batting failure is mainly due to batsmen who have incorrect or non existent footwork. This aspect can never be over emphasized. Dravid & Tendulkar had correct footwork & technique.Hence they always looked like batsmen in command. Current examples of such batsmen are Pujara & M.Tiwary. The modern technique of so called hand-eye coordination(used by most Indian batsmen) is always "Iffy". If the bounce & pace of the wicket is different to that in India, it takes a while to adapt. Hence the Indian batting failure. On the other hand the old approach of head over the ball & body behind the ball requires very little adjustment time - once the batsman plays himself "IN". Misbah of Pakistan used this technique & succeeded in SA. In SA, bowling to an off side field is essential. Shami succeeds because he attacks the off stump as do all SA pacers.ZAK is an off stump bowler too! ZAK & Pujara will address, at least individually, India's deficiencies. Why not Play them & avoid 3-0 sweep?

  • POSTED BY theposeidon on | December 9, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    i am simply unable to understand one thing. de kock is highly praised for his innings, amla and him are providing biggest partnerships and are being duly praised and indian batters are slighted. a few days back our top three were doing the same on their home track.now if that 52 ball hundred aint special, or that 200 was banal why is this special? yes, track is good for bowlers here, so what, its still their home track. they not only know it but are at their best on it.its a fresh team, playing against the greatest bowlers, on their track, this was inevitable. but i wouldnt resort to doubting their abilities. they needed some practice on these tracks which are nowhere similar to indian ones. shami will do well since we know he can swing at pace, ishant needs to come up with some discipline. a bit responsible approach from top order especially dhawan and kohli and i guess we'll get the last one.

  • POSTED BY fguy on | December 9, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    Let's not to be too harsh on our players. For no fault of their own they've not had any practice games and remember for many this is the first away tour. Give them some time for they've the talent. Remember these guys have already in their young career won more World Titles then SA have in their entire history. The big change I would make though is the coach. Duncan Fletcher has brought nothing to the table in the three years at helm & it's time he goes

  • POSTED BY icecool96 on | December 9, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    i think that they should have brought zak in the one day match because of the experience he has in playing there

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    Well,again Indian team has done the same mistakes that they were doing in all the overseas condition of playing with 2 front line spinners.And why Ishant is playing in this Indian team is inexplicable.In the batting lineup also,Dhoni should have come at no 4 ahead of Raina and Rahane and stop blaming top order as he always does after every lose.He is the best batsman in this this side and he should take responsibility of chase down the score which I believe this young batsmen can't do in S.A.3-0 looks inevitable but I expect some fight as they came here as the no 1 side in the ODI.

  • POSTED BY Satish_Sharma001 on | December 9, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    India may be number 1 one day team on paper but not the best one day team. You cannot be the best team in the world by winning in home conditions only. Mr. Dhoni blamed these losses against SA on the batsmen while his bowlers are conceding 150+ runs opening partnerships in both matches and large totals to chase. They were shredded apart in both matches. I think Mr. Dhoni expects his batsmen chasing these large totals all the time. Well Mr. Dhoni it may happen in Inida on smaller grounds, batting friendly wickets, and in front of home crowes but it ain't going to happen in away series.

  • POSTED BY I_Love_My_India on | December 9, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    Well played SA, especially Dekock and Hash. For India the series seems to be looking like a disastrous. Keeping my fingers crossed to see the batsman coming back....

  • POSTED BY Temuzin on | December 9, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    First, congratulations to SA. They are playing excellent cricket at their home grounds. As far as indian teams performance is concerned, it was kind of expected. They had no time to practice and adjust to new conditions. That was apparent in two losses. Bowlers are also trying to adjust their line and length. The dismissal of a few batsmen were plain unlucky, run outs, bad decision went against them. a few got caught brilliantly because of failure to adjust and gauge the bounce of the pitch. In last game, dismissal of Rohit, Dhawan and jadeja could have gone either way. Jadeja has surely hit it for a six but got caught by de Villiers at the rope jumping high. I am pretty positive this team will turn around and assert it self. Just watch.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 15:45 GMT

    well played decock you deserve it.where as amla,he once again proved that he is the worlds best player by reaching the fastest 4000 odi runs congoo.india need to improve the bowling on this bouncy pitches as well as batting.anyways well played both the teams.

  • POSTED BY CricketMaan on | December 9, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    Well played QDK and well planned CSA. You knew you can't take BCCI heads on, but you can take Indian players heads on even with all protection gear. A sensible Indian management would quietly send Ashwin, Umesh, Bhuvi to practise with red cherry especially the kokubura with Zak and co! But then BCCI doesnt see merit in Test cricket, so willl still field these guys and still expect them to get used to red cherry overnight!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    What was waiting to happen has finally come to pass! We love getting complacent and forget to weed out our shortcomings after victories at home, but the next two years will showcase our technical ineptitude and inability to come out of our comfort zones. This "new" middle order needs to know that balls by effective and lethal bowlers, at different lengths will test them, and present different challenges than balmy West Indian medium pacers or Ranji bowlers on dead tracks in India. They will become the laughing stock of international cricket, by being bullies at home and pathetic abroad. We all must remember that Ganguly and Dravid came in and performed at LORD'S, and so we should stop comparing these new kids on the block with them, at least till the end of the tour to England.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 14:52 GMT

    No worries friends. It will be on track very soon. Sudden complete changes in playing conditions is the problem Indian players are just facing. But I am sure it will be sorted out very soon. BCCI should think it seriously next time how important some practice games are before tour starts. Looking at Indian batting, atleast I didnt find any lack of attitude or technic about Indian batsmen. Shikhar fearless asusual playing his shots and it is his game. When ball passes over the fielders head to boundry we definately appriciate it. Sometimes it happens just opposite. I m sure in coming time he definately send Steyn & co out of rope. Virat too is playing well. 1 or 2 failures is ok for any batsman. Remember he is a player who scored century at WACA, fastest wicket in the world against OZ pace battery. About Rohit, definately he is doing well, reading attack well. Only a bit luck facter he needs. In first he was runout and in second he was caught brillientely. All three batsmen will rock !!

  • POSTED BY fast_gun on | December 9, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    Cricket is the only sporting code in the world, where the number 1 ranked team in the world is steam rolled away from home. All other nations can now take advantage of the easy points on offer.

  • POSTED BY TSJ07 on | December 9, 2013, 14:38 GMT

    continued...... As an Indian fan and a very die hard fan I must admit that our team has to a better team who was playing in their own den and prepared better than us who never had any practice match after landing in alien conditions. Ok they lost 1st match which they played just after they landed but they tried to play the rash shots too often and too early which led to their downfall. They need to pull up their socks ow scoreline at the end of tour will be 3-0 in ODI and 2-0 in tests.

  • POSTED BY karthikrby on | December 9, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    Dhoni chose to bowl first to give enough practice to bowlers and batsmen so they handle pressure better in WC/CL kind of tournaments. If he chose batting in the last 2 games, I am sure, india could have won atleast one game as SA is known for choking while batting second. All the bashers, you will see a different team india when comes to important tournaments. Zaheer/Shami will rock together in bowling unit and our batsmen will win comfortably win all the games just like they did in champions trophy.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    dhawan will score a ton nxt odi

  • POSTED BY hnlns on | December 9, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    This sort of drubbing was very much on the cards, given the nature of surfaces at Joburg and Durban, but it is amazing how the heroes have turned literally to zeros, e.g., Dhawan and Kohli. India will have to regroup quickly and ought to play out of their skin to redeem something out of the game at Centurion where the surface should be far more kinder than Wanderers and Kingsmead.

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | December 9, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    India lost the series fair & square to a team that played superb all round cricket in all departments of the game. SA won mainly thru' their opening pair in batting & thru their pace bowling. Their fielding was superb with excellent catching especially by De Kock- who took at least 3 first slip catches. India by contrast dropped crucial catches or did not attempt them especially of the openers which cost them opening stands of 152 & 194. In fact the opening stand alone was more than the Indian total. If India has any tricks left, I would recommend them to try Pujara @#4 to provide them a sheet anchor + bring in ZAK to give them a strike bowler who is capable of taking out the openers. Both these guys are in SA awaiting to play the first Test match. When they are good to play in Tests why aren't they Good for ODI's especially in such a demoralised team with no fighting spirit to stay at the crease. That will be a welcome change & give India a chance to redeem some Dignity!

  • POSTED BY kahvas on | December 9, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Well, similar story for India. Champions Trophy in England gave Indian's hope that Indian's are capable of beating teams in foreign conditions, but the difference was the India got a lot of practice games to get used to conditions. Thanks to BCCI, India was playing a high scoring irrelevant series against Aussies on flat pitches rather than a longer tour to SA. Another difference was, Indian bowling was better during champions trophy. I wonder where Praveen kumar is and why was he dropped. Also, if Jadeja cant bowl well, he doesnt deserve to play period.

  • POSTED BY anvesh4444 on | December 9, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    India never done well against SA IN SA even with experienced & legendary players in team, now please stop taunting these inexperienced young side but encourage them, hope this tour will be a very good lesson for young Indian team.

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 9, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    @Adinarayana - Rather than Binny, I would try out Rishi Dhawan or Abhisek Nayer. Rishi is taller and I wont be surprised to see him in the ODI team soon with his Ranji outings.Heads will definitely role in the ODI team after this series. India goes off to NZ next. The spinners have not been effective - a wicket here or there. Shami has been the best find in the last few series.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 13:27 GMT

    Parvez Rasool Should be included in the squad and replace Bhuvneshwar kumar. He can be an all rounder for the indian team. He can bowl fast and bat. He already has 4 first class centuries. He would be perfect

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 9, 2013, 13:09 GMT

    @spinkingkk - Manoj Tiwari is injured yet again. He certainly was a good prospect cause he is taller, but by the time he recovers and then try to get back into the team he will be surpassed by others. So I dont see him making it back. There is another Saurabh Tiwari (looks good for ODI slot) More than ODI it will be TEST matches where we need to find a good solution. As you said the last bowling trio was a better bet than the 1st ODI. I feel the batsman will lift with time but the bowling resources are a worry. The matches we won in India were also close because our bowling keeps going for plenty.

  • POSTED BY ChrisMarx on | December 9, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    @Rajesh.Kumar - Tailor made pitches? Really? The Wanderers had a bit of zip, same as it always does. It allows the ball to come onto the bat and has always been a ground where decent scores can be had if the batsmen apply themselves properly. You can look at the SA total of 358/4 (on the exact same pitch!) or take a tour through history for confirmaion of that, like the 2003 WC final , where the Aussies made 359. Granted, India lost those two games with a combined margin of 266 runs, but you can't blame the pitch for that considering the other teams each scored 350+. Next stop was Kingsmead, which was slow, placid and low bouncing and about as menacing as a sleeping kitten - in other words it was basically a sub-continent pitch. Tailor made pitches indeed :-) And Rajesh, if you seriously think that you will be getting slow turners like Kingsmead and the ones your local groundsmen prepare so lovingly in India at the next WC in Australia... well, best of luck to you and your side.

  • POSTED BY DeckChairand6pack on | December 9, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    It's typical for the victorious team to take their foot off of the pedal for the dead rubber in a series and lose. But I think SA are going to win the last fixture as well. They play well at Centurion and it is often a fast, lively track. 3 nil clean sweep. Can The Proteas win the Test series? Of course they can, but there is a lot of quality in the Indian team and it's only a matter of time before they put on a performance.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Manoj tiwary,and stuart binny should be tried instead of Rahane and ashwin in their respective positions.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    Well Played RSA.. COngrats on winning series.. India must show fight on SA pitches :) best of luck to both team..I hope we see competitive cricket :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    Well done SA , waiting for the white wash !!!!

  • POSTED BY maheshkumar.de on | December 9, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    Just a few facts:

    India lost both the odi's badly.

    India arrived within days before the first match, usually not a good thing for getting used to conditions.

    In both the Odi's, India's bowlers have been ineffective, despite having bowler-friendly conditions.

    SA has a good team. Players are in form (batting, bowling and fielding). In home conditions they are not easy to defeat.

    India stands at #2 in test, #1 in Odi's, #2 in T20, which is really impressive for a team in transition (most of the players are new).

    India needs to learn and improve.

  • POSTED BY spinkingKK on | December 9, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    @Fan1969 well written and I agree completely. What I don't understand is, if the Indian pitches are flat tracks, why can't the teams like Australia make big runs there. True they do play the ODI's well there. But, in tests, they struggle the same way India struggles overseas. I recently had an Aussie supporter telling me that India can only win in India. What he didn't look at is, Australia is only winning in Australia as well. But, for some reason, winning in Australia, England and SA is treated as a bigger achievement even if it is only won by the home team. In my opinion, one of the best win in recent years was by England when they won the test series in India, bouncing back from behind.

  • POSTED BY Rajesh.Kumar on | December 9, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    While it is disappointing to see India lose this badly against SA, but what else can one expect on these tailor-made pitches with so much of seam movement and bounce? South Africa needed these wins to improve their ranking from current number 5, and this is a good way of doing it. But, we Indian fans are a bit too pessimistic. We should not drawn any conclusions from this regarding the next world cup. Pitches in WC will never be like this. Didn't our team reach the final of the WC 2003, played in South Africa? Similarly, our team will do very well in the WC 2015. It is South Africans who have to really worry. They are known to win all these unimportant bilateral series, but when it comes to winning where it matters, they always choke. In the last WC they even lost to NewZealand. In WC 07 they lost ot Bangladesh, and in WC03, they lost the run count of D/L system, and tied when they should have taken one more run. That is the reality of South Africa.

  • POSTED BY shyam857 on | December 9, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    I personally feel that BCCI has done the preparation by sending a ind A team this year in which 3/4 of the team were playing now, all that lacks now is lack of application , planning and commitment,dont say indians cant play on green tops or somthing,i feel its lack of eagerness,Indians are complacent, in this aspect PAK should be really appreciated comparing to their facilites bak at their home with indians,they showed little fight back after being hammered, their lone problem is always their batting either it be flat tracks or green tops,but considering indians we always had a never solving issue bowling and adding to that playing on bouncy pitches,

  • POSTED BY seantells on | December 9, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    fact is India doesn't perform well outside comfort zone, whatever changes may take place result won't be that good.

  • POSTED BY spinkingKK on | December 9, 2013, 11:55 GMT

    People who comment on the bowling of Yadav and Ishant should understand that bowling in ODI's are always difficult and you will go for a lot of runs more often than not. One bowler is bound to be expensive. Because, if that bowler was also economical, then the opposition wouldn't have tried hard enough. I support these two bowlers ahead of Bhuvi and Mohit, because they bring in pace and create some fear in the opposition batsmen. Like Dhoni said, it is the batsmen who failed in this match. I think that the so called transition phase begins now. We are going to see a lot of struggles for a few series, until two or three batsmen gets well cooked and becomes hard rocks. What I don't understand is, after performing very well every time he got a chance, Manoj Tiwary is not getting selected ahead of Rahane. This is just not fair.

  • POSTED BY SauShar on | December 9, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    If we forget winning, the No.1 ODI team in the world is struggling to play full 50 overs whose top 3 batsman are amongst the highest runs getter in 2013. The hero of home becomes zero away. I can't understand the fact why so. Recently, Pakistan performed brilliantly & won the series with an ordinary batting lineup. I think MSD's captaincy is under scrutiny, bcz we hardly see any strategy made by MSD on the field against the Africans batsman. Despite knowing the tour will be tough, MSD was as usual as ever like series against Australia at home. It is easy to say that our bowlers performed badly on a wicket where opponent bowling was on top, but I strongly believe a captain gives strength to his bowlers by putting the right fielders at the right place & position by knowing about what they are going to bowl, but MSD has failed to do so. I think MSD should learn from George Bailey & AB Devillers about this. Hashim Amla's catch of Rohit Sharma is the best example of this. Wake up MSD!!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:49 GMT

    Well india lost the series pretty meekly. Congrats SA ! Having said that SA fans should reign themselves bocs by any strtch this SA team is not a world beater. they'll get exposed in Sub continent. At the moment the conditions r in their favour & Indians r playing a very amateur cricket, esp the batsman. The way shikhar lashed at the uprising delivery looked very silly. Even rohit should try to pull down the ground. Well it is a learning curve & am sure they will hit the straps soon. Now the series done & dusted I think dhoni should have faith in his batters & opt for batting if he wins the toss.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    for last the 13 int matches india have played dhoni made rayudu,a great batsman to sit out hw he even spoiled by making manoj tiwary sit out for 25 matches if rayudu had given chance yesterday india wud have won it,i bet u guys c if rayudu plays next match india will win it u c tat tat will happen,but dhoni and rayudu played alongside in many matches in list-a cricket they knw themselves in under-18 in eng ray aver 152 and africa con he averaged 75 in list-a,once again i say give rayudu a chance and u can c hw dangerous he will be

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 11:42 GMT

    sehwag is well out of form. he is having a bad time in domestic cricket. dont know why sum people want him on this tour. his career is over.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    South Africa is thrashing No.1 team in the world, Trio of Dhawan, Kohli and Rohit all failed to pose a statement about their quality batting as many of us predicted. They can't score on pitches where there is seam, bounce and spin. I think if they play more matches away rather than playing almost every series in their home-grounds they could understand where they stand

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    @siddhartha87, @Sanjiyan: Relax guys! SRT got a 200 and Sehwag got a 300 against India at home with Steyn in the SA "attack"! Doesn't sound like he "blew them away" then, did he? Of course sportsmen have their bad days, and 1 test and 1 ODI does not make Steyn any less of a bowler. He will forever be an all-time great, and his performance in India has been very good otherwise. BUT he has some horribly bad days, so Kohli, Rohit and Shikhar should be allowed two.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    I think GAMBHIR should have to make a return to the team as a opener. Rohit is not an apt player for the overseas

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    well i can never understand the ranking system..... India is No. 1 in ODIs , No. 2 in T20s and NO.3 in Tests. Seems they are really doing well. But some one out there can please explain me how a team can b no . 1 or no. 2 if they have best batting line up in the world (that also only in home conditions) , no real fast bowlers and no threatening or match winning spinners and most probably the worst fielding side (together with Pakistan).Cant win a single match in foreign conditions. QUITE AMAZING.

  • POSTED BY dandi23 on | December 9, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    If there's any sense at the BCCI, - and there's very little evidence there is - Sehwag and Gambhir should be on the next flight out to RSA. These so called young prodigies that have been padding up statistics on docile pitches are terribly exposed outside of India. A little pace, a little bounce, a little movement and they look like amateurs. The Test series won't be a contest, it'll be a massacre of the Indian batting hubris at this rate. I'm amazed at how content Indian fans are at the façade the BCCI serves up in the name of a few sixes. Do not mistake flat track bullying with class. If Hughes, De Kock, Root, Bravo, Maqsood and all the other nation's young guns played the majority of their cricket in India, we'd have an entire generation of Vivs, legends and "gods".

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:51 GMT

    India's yet another thrashing on overseas grounds indicates the flawed ICC ranking. A team who has been playing on their home flat pitches all year long attain no.1 ranking. that's ridiculous. Plus leave aside the results, the way they played cricket is far from being even closer to a high ranking team. Let our Indian fans live in foul's paradise!

  • POSTED BY srinideva on | December 9, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    I don`t know what is Dhawan is thinking of himself. He is not Sehwag version 2. May be the hype around the indian batsmanship got into his mind and he is playing all the extragavanvza shots too early. Dhawan and Rohit must try to rotate the strike than scoring boundaries in initial part of the inns. I`m afraid that he is going to be a big flop show in this tour. I sharma What to say? nothing..

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    india thrashed against quality bowling as expected.they are fortunate to have a curtailed tour

  • POSTED BY himanshu.team on | December 9, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    I don't agree with the changes Dhoni for the second ODI. Bhuvi gave runs at 7.5 RPO, while the whole team conceded 7.16. That was not a whole lot worse than the overall performance. Yadav also went for around 7.5 RPO when the overall rate was 5.7. So it did not really work for India. Bhuvi is a good bowler, he is young and this is first tour of SA. He needs time to get his line and length right and should not have been dropped. Even though Ishant fared better than Yadav in terms of economy, it could have been the other way round if he had bowled the last over instead. Only bowler who did beat the bat once or twice was Shami. Both Yadav and Ishant were as harmless for the SA, as Bhuvi and Mohit Sharma in the first match. Not that it would have changed the end-result, but India must support the bowlers who have skill to take wickets.

  • POSTED BY manmishr on | December 9, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    What happened in South Africa was going to happen sooner or later... Our terrible batting weakness in fast pitches have been exposed all over the world and we need to find out ways to tackle against it. We should definitely encourage young talent by giving them more chances rather than persisting with out of form players. Our bowlers too will need to be nourished.. There seem to be no improvement in our bowling over the years at all... These are not good signs for future .. We can definitely come back with a bang but we need to work really hard on almost all aspects of the game ...

  • POSTED BY adeelliakat on | December 9, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    As a Pakistan fan, it was way too disappointing to see Indian batsmen falling out like this. None of them got out on very good deliveries but it was all about the nerves game but Steyn and company were all over on their minds.

    But good to see atleast after a very long time Ravi Shahstri been all quiet as he couldn't get much chance of exaggerating while any six hit by (any) Indian batsman.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    @FijiCricket !! well said dude ... The lion roars again !!! BtW the one run win u mentioned about Pak against SAF ... that was one hell of a cricket match and I may not a find a single real fan of cricket not enjoyibg that match to cores ... We all minnows fans from Pak expected crunch competition of yr No.1 team ... and that is why in shock we cant blv that what to talk of a Real Competiotion u guys couldnt put up a little Fight alone ... so i understand dude it Hurts ...it does big time ... Relax n get ready for Tests ...!!!

  • POSTED BY siddhartha87 on | December 9, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @Rohit Shiralkar Steyn has to prove in subcontinent? really?FYI he averages 20 (SR 34) in INdia. Has single handedly demolished start studded batting line up twice in Indian soils.As far as the subcontinent is concerned he has taken 71 wickets in 15 tests average-23 SR-40. Mate he has proved himself all over the world throughout the years.Definitely the most skilled bowler of this generation and definitely one of the greatest of all time.But yeah INdian batsmen have lots to prove.They fail everytime when when there is something in the pitch for the seamers.

  • POSTED BY Naked_Cricket on | December 9, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    India can't play in bouncing tracks. Answer is simple as that . I still remember Sanjay Manjekar and Ravi said in Australia , "indians can't play in this bouncy tracks but this will forget in few days when they come back to india. They will not find a solution for this".SRL is far better in last time @ SA. They won a test match and chase down 2 ,300+ ODI matches.Still remember how they played at AUS. India is Lacking REAL TIME Applications.Stars will not fulfill the sky/

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    ok calm down all Ind fans... lets get to the tip of the foreign conditions iceberg as far as dale Steyn and India is concerned. Steyn played for RSA in 4 ODI's against India IN India. He took 8 wickets in 4 games at ave of 27. consider... his career ave is 25. so he hardly struggled in india. Tests gets interesting. he played 5 games in india against India and took 26 wickets at 20.2 RPW. His carreer ave is 340 wickets at 22.7 RPW in 67 games. i dont think he needs to prove himself on indian flat tracks. face the truth... its not about indian flat track or greentops in south africa. India's batsmen did not play well in the first two ODIs now, and the bowlers were just as bad in the first ODI in Joburg. Hopefully they can play better in the next game.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 10:18 GMT

    @Aussie_the_great - Stop cribbing about India's victories. Indians can also comfortably say "Oz beating Poms on tailor made pitches".

    All the Pak fans - For your information, Yesterday Pak just managed a last over face saving victory against minnows Afghanistan. They almost lost it.

  • POSTED BY samad633 on | December 9, 2013, 10:18 GMT

    India must try to produce batsmen for fast and bouncy wickets, otherwise in next ICC World Cup in Australia they will be thrashed. We all know how Australian wickets behave.

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | December 9, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    @Mobin99:-Surely he's being ironic, he couldn't be serious.....surely. If not that was one of the most unintentionally revealing posts I've ever read on this site, and the implications.....my God!

  • POSTED BY SoyQuearns on | December 9, 2013, 10:10 GMT

    This is Soy Quearns. I'm of Korea, in the South. India worse than South Korea, that is bad! India less tooth than Korean tiger (it don't exist). One thing certain, South Africa pace is... still exist

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    be true cricket fan I read all the comments some are awesome but some of them extremely ridiculous

  • POSTED BY Fan1969 on | December 9, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    Much debate on ICC rankings. I am an Indian but agree Indian rankings are flattering at present. But that is because other teams have been poor or inconsistent. None more so than Eng in Tests and SA in ODIs.

    India has done well in Home ODIs and ICC trophy (if some guys want to call it flat track -so be it - it is same for both teams - let other teams win more on so called flat tracks). Now as India travel overseas -SA, NZ, Eng and Aus the ranking may fall if they do not adapt well.

    SA has UNDERPERFORMED in ODIs over the years. Having a 14-12 record at home in past 3 years is poor for a team with AB de, Kallis, Amla and the best pacers.

    In Tests the problem is England is INCONSISTENT. They Lost to Pak 3-0, drew with SL 1-1 and now again lost to Aus first two tests. Even as an Indian I am surprised that India is 2nd but then we did thrash Aus 4-0 recently, beat NZ, WI etc.

    Rankings are slow to change so hope India will adapt before others catch up.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    My sincere advise to Indian Batsmen - Dont just look down. Very recently you clobbered MJ bowling over 150+ and bouncing menacingly. And other Oz bowlers were equal to the task. Still you could better them. Also do not forget in the initial career of Steyn, he was hammered black & blue by the Team India in SA. Just believe in yourself and play your natural game without any inhibitions and everything will be alright.

  • POSTED BY Haz95 on | December 9, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    This is hilarious, yet incredibly inevitable. Only the indians who are brainwashed by their media believe so called legends like Rohit, shikar and virat would do good in SA. We had a glimpse of Kohli vs genuine pace back earlier this year against Junaid Khan, and he's repeating it. South Africa batting is defo equal or better than Indias alone, lol and bowling, hahhaaha. This is the harsh reality for BCCI, or should i say ICC, indian cricket council. Carry on investing in IPLs and delaying tests, it'll only lead to the inevitable, you guys are gonna lose all these supposed trophys, but then again it is ICC, ahem BCCI so you'll get ur batting pitches. India needs pujara, I'm not even indian and i'm saying this. He's like a Mohd Yousuf, R Dravid and etc.

  • POSTED BY Sanjiyan on | December 9, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    @Rohit Shiralkar Steyns best bowling figures(in Tests) are 7/51. Guess who that was against, and more importantly where this test was played. Steyns Sub continent record is pretty impressive for a fast bowler so please, make sure you know the facts before saying he hasnt proven himself in sub continent. The only sub continental country steyn has 'struggled' in was Sri Lanka. Weather you like to admit it or not he is the most complete fast bowler at this time(tho Mitch Johnson is potentially the only one who could best Steyn, if he keeps this type of form going)

  • POSTED BY Messa1 on | December 9, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    @Fijicricket I reckon u should stick with ur countries favourite sport Rugby and leave this convo for the cricketing nations

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Thanks for reminding of all of us of Dinesh Karthik.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    @Ausie_the_Great thats funny - please we've beat you 2 out of the last 3 series and youve only won two tests all year! be serious there is no challenger for SA at the moment.

    As for India can't believe there where people who didnt see this coming

  • POSTED BY Biggus on | December 9, 2013, 9:59 GMT

    @Just_Sam:-India doesn't have home turf:-That implies grass is somehow involved. India has home mud. And before anyone tells me conditions preclude it don't bother. If there's grass on the outfield that can't be the reason. The conditions there are completely intentional, to cotton-wool their batsmen against pace bowling.

  • POSTED BY imtiazjaleel on | December 9, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    It is not a new thing that we are seeing. Tell me what happend in the last two tours of India - England and Australia. Though we performed little better in One day series in England. We were thrashed in TESTS without any contest.

  • POSTED BY by_the_numbers on | December 9, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    @crlshamalka You are simply one of many who need to look at statsguru or other sources before writing inane comments. I cannot understand why South Africa are "green track bullies". Do people ever check the records? South Africa are roughly 15 and 4 overseas in tests and 23 and 9 at home since the start of 2007! Sehwag has a test average of 25 in South Africa in 8 matches and an average of 15 in ODI's in SA at a mighty strike rate of 73. Get him here to help out as soon as possible! South Africa with no spinners to practice against at home are 5-5 in India since readmission and have a better team batting average than India in India. Many Indian supporters write worthwhile comments which I find thought provoking and interesting. However, I suspect that many of those who pay little or no attention to facts are probably children. Am I correct?

  • POSTED BY Shajahan.P on | December 9, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    As some on said "sometimes dhoni blames bowlers, sometimes he blames batsmen, sometimes he blames dew factor, sometimes he blames scheduling..."

    When he will say "All credits go to the opponent, They deserve to win this Game"...

    Dhoni should accept his failure in Overseas and present it. You can not buy a pitch there and play against international bowlers. Simple!

  • POSTED BY imtiazjaleel on | December 9, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    Everybody forgot that England has won Tests Series in India with their spinners and Anderson. So, Indians always struggled against good quality bowling either Spin or Fast. I believe Pakistan and India will have a very good test series because right now both of them have good quality spinners.

  • POSTED BY Fijicricket on | December 9, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    Calm down Pakistan fans- If India loses a match, that does not make your Pakistan team ranking or in any way better. England is hammered in foreign conditions in Australia despite a month of warm up matches, Windies is hammered in foreign conditions in NZ . Dont forget Pakistan were all out for 49 in South Africa! Pakistan got massive hammering in Zimbabwe conditions and struggled against Ireland! (Both are regarded as minnows).Pakistan won on the last ball one run win against mighty Afghanistan! Lucky win even in Paks homegroud! Its funny to read all those comments and advise to the worlds top notch team from some minnow 7th ranked Pakistan team !. You all have short memories that in world cups the score is India 9- Pakistan 0 zip, nothing!!. Thats in any ground in the world! I feel sorry for Pakistan team- they have more fans interested in Team India. Well, everybody follows the champ in any sport!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    Ausie_the_Great on (December 9, 2013, 9:11 GMT) Nice Ranking flat track wins and minnow tharshings

    Flat Ranking Should Be (1)India (2) India (3) India (4) India.... :)

  • POSTED BY NewlandsRules on | December 9, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @ CRLShamalka: Team India is facing the reality of playing cricket elsewhere in the world. Cricket is game of bowlers trying to outfox batsmen and vice versa. Bowling is as much a skill and art as batting is. Without the contest we might as well resort to stickball - placing the ball on a pedestal and whacking it at will - where's the fun in that?

    I can understand that it must be horrid for you to watch your brittle heros failing miserably under conditions that our batsmen calmly dominated. But this is the professional era with all manner of tools to help the players. Do you think the SA bowlers were just line-and-length and hoping for something? No. They have studied each batsmen's weaknesses and figured out ways to get them out. To the best of my knowledge India have played on those pitches before. And they have access to all the same tools.

  • POSTED BY ketaann on | December 9, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    thanks to bcci for shortening of this tour. 0-3 in odi series is better than 0-7. N 0-2 in test instead of 0-3. They also save team from two t20 deafeats.

  • POSTED BY Monoz1976 on | December 9, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    Most overhyped team in the world has thrashed once again by the proteas. Take my words, this ranking system has to be amended to discount the flat track wins and minnow tharshings. This will give the correct ranking (1)Aus (2) SA (3) Eng (4) Pak

  • POSTED BY Shaun_wick on | December 9, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    I think indian team showed their are not real rank number one. There are number one in flat surfaces.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    Free Advice To BCCI - Send a team of analysts to Pakistan to study their domestic system which is continuously generating not only good fast bowlers but also very talented spinners. Pak should do the vice versa to look for talented batsmen.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Oh and before I forget to add - Well played SAF! Steyn is no doubt one of the best the world has seen. I said it earlier on the last Indian tour of SA when he had Sachin in all sorts of trouble. Of course the pitches there assist him a lot and he has yet to prove himself on slower tracks in the sub-continent, but still.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    One may believe it or not but Aus, India, SA, Eng & Pak are basically performing almost just the same. Nobody is better or less than the other. But difference comes when playing the other on home turf. Hosts always have the undue privilege of preparing pitches which they do as per their strength. Also their batsmen & bowlers keep playing on those turfs, so after some time they know inside out of each and every pitch and are able to make much better use of it. Look at the recent Ashes. England dominated Oz in England, now being dominated by Oz in Australia. Actual talent can be gauged only when both teams are facing each other in alien conditions. That's my take.

  • POSTED BY Rajsap on | December 9, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    losing is a concern, many may not recognise but the fact is Dhoni definitely have favourites....i said before that india will loose badly in S.Africa,,,Umesh Yadav bold 2 overs in second conceded 2 boundaries but some of his deliveries were too good. instead of supporting Yadav by trying him for one more over he changed him and he was brought late...If it would have been Ishant he may have tried him more. Again Dinesh Karthik was ignored for Rahane and Rayudu. Rahane is fine but dont you feel Karthik could have been much better if Rohit Sharma is given so many chances why not Karthik because natural talent does not pay everytime for instance Kambli and Ganguly.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 9:00 GMT

    Not sure what all the fuss is about. India are #1 in 60% of the cricketing world - subcontinent (India, Pak, SL, Ban) and West India. They are #5 in the rest, behind Eng, Aus, SA and Pak. As an Indian, I'd take a victory at home over a victory abroad anyday. Of course I would love them to win abroad, who wouldn't? But there isn't any team out there that's #1 in all conditions - just look at Aus and Eng. So given the circumstances, I'd rather India win at home where millions are watching, than abroad in front of empty stands.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Everybody is talking about new and different conditions of SA that it lead to these losses. Indian team, as a whole, these days is better than Pakistani team. If Pakistan won the series (nearly whitewashed) then why not India. I wish we in Pakistan can take some good batsmen from India and likewise India can take some good bowlers from Pakistan. One very important reason is that IPL is blending Indian young batsmen with international players but they failed to do so with young Indian bowlers. So it is not the condition but the only wellness if Indian team that will strike in future as well

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    Indians do not have any quality to play out side of india,i just dont understand why years after years icc helping india?why,they playing every months a series,after champions trophy they played 6,7 home series,why?and next every month they will be playing series,why teams like bangladesh,newzeland,westindies will get less series?

  • POSTED BY Mobin99 on | December 9, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    @ CRLShamalka. I READ IT AGAIN, AM LAUGHING AGAIN. " Bowlers are there in the game only to get hammered. No wonder BCCI reduced the number of matches because SA is doing injustice to the batsmen by producing fast, bouncy tracks where great players like Dhawan and Rohit cannot score hundreds. ICC should take immediate action against SA".

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    This series goes out to BCCI aswell. A warning to You, this is Africa it's a jungle out here, if you stroll around flexing your muscles in the open, you get eaten. There are lions on the prowl. Word of advice, you will do well to show humility and respect in another man's house but for now please enjoy these hidings brought to you by CSA and Proteas???

  • POSTED BY anupkeni on | December 9, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    It looks like Team India is in South Africa on a picnic rather than a serious cricket tour atleast looking at the way they have played in the first 2 ODIs.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 8:33 GMT

    how indians proove that they are the no1 in the rank list??? so sorry....

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 9, 2013, 8:31 GMT

    (continued) Having said that bowling is our weakness, we did put up a better display in this last ODI. Its more about selecting the right combo for the type of pitch. SA know their conditions well. The bowlers in yesterdays game should have been the ones chosen in the previous game as well. We need Zaks back as well. Time India nurtures a pool of fast bowlers....right now if one gets injured we go back to the Mohit type. There are new spinners coming up in India like Jalaj Saxena, rakesh Dhruv, Kuldeep Sharma. We also need taller batsman like Juneja.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 8:31 GMT

    poor india. can't believe they have become a pathetic team. they have no chance winning the world cup. they can never play in south Africa . Australia. England. over rated team. yuvraj .rains. sharma all losers. only IPL players lol

  • POSTED BY orangtan on | December 9, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    India have been thrashed, that is the surprise not that they are down 2-0. Pakistani fans, rest assured, there is no way that India can ever match up to your seemingly bottomless reservoir of pace and spin bowling talent, whether this is the important comparison in the larger scheme of things is the question .

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    It is very difficult for any team to come in terms with the abroad conditions. Some years before Ian Smith the former New Zeland wicket keeper has told in a commentry session that cricket is played in clay and grass.The percentage gets varied the pitch conditions different. No doubt that Indians are one of the best in clay pitches , baldy and batting friendly , because their strength is batting. After playing continous matches in that conditions within a week you are playing in grassy bouncy and seam pitch you can not expect them to produce magic. It is BCCI who made the situation so bad by holding our team in India as much as posssible and send them befor 5 days of much anticipated series & straight away going and playing in bouncy pitch where our batsmen struggle. Any way forget about the one day series. With 0-4 in England, 0-4 in Australia Can our team draw at least one test , other wise 0-2 result will provide Dhoni & Co in the perfect 10 , in losing test matches outside India.

  • POSTED BY MelbourneMiracle on | December 9, 2013, 8:19 GMT

    If India had enough time to practice before the matches, they would've hammered SA. SA are just fast track bullies. SA must learn than Cricket is batsmen game and they should make flat tracks to help the batsmen to tear the bowlers apart. Bowlers are there in the game only to get hammered. No wonder BCCI reduced the number of matches because SA is doing injustice to the batsmen by producing fast, bouncy tracks where great players like Dhawan and Rohit cannot score hundreds. ICC should take immediate action against SA. Yes Dhawan and Rohit are good on England wickets but India should bring in Shewag and Gambir on SA wickets to tear Steyn and Co. apart. Jai Hind!

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 8:19 GMT

    Daryll cullinan is talking as if his team has won 0 world cups. Meanwhile all this media hype and overrating of South Africa will go on till next world cup till they face the reality agains, Ouch! We south africans are CHOKERS! and that's the reality and will always remain. Useless ODI series win, enjoy your choclates and Ice creams.

  • POSTED BY Blade-Runner on | December 9, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    @Fan1969 ; Sri Lanka did so well in South Africa back in 2011. They chased successfully 300+ totals twice against the same attack. They would have won the ODI series, if it wasn't for rain during the 3rd ODI. Then Sri Lanka went on to beat SA in a test match by 208 runs. Thats the difference between FTB Indian team and well skilled SL team. Tnx

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 9, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    I think cricket is just turning out to be a game loaded in favour of home team and against the visiting teams. I think the stakes are getting higher and higher for the home team on their tailor-made pitches. All the teams are doing well in home conditions and getting spanked abroad. Fresh examples are England in Australia (current ashes series 2-0), Australia in India and England (4-0 and 3-0) and India in SA (current ODI series 2-0). SA is a curious case. They lost at home too to Pakistan and lost overseas as well in India WC2011 and in CT2013. May be the 'C' Word gets the better of the Proteas on most occasions. Anyways, Congratulations to SA for winning at home. Now, travel overseas to India. I can doff my hat once you win overseas in India.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    South Africa can win only on these flat tracks and small 40 meter boundary grounds. And meanwhile if they don;t know how to organise matches they better don't do it. It is so rediculous to see a cricket match played on a groud when you see lot of garbage on the field as I saw yesterday. South Africa will always remain overrated minnows. Congrats for winning another useless series on a filthy pitch,

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 9, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    @sohailmalik - cricket is a team game. The bowling has always been poor. Teams laugh at Indian bowling that it is like college level. the whole world laughs at us. We find new Dravids,laxmans, Tendulkars but not bowlers. BCCI is to blame. The batting can come right .....its just that the bowlers are a demoralising effect.

  • POSTED BY Protears on | December 9, 2013, 8:02 GMT

    Test series coming up and how many of the Indian squad has played a test match in South Africa on testing conditions, not flat tracks in Kimberley. Dhoni is the only one that has played a test match in South Africa, Vijay has played against us in a test match before but that is not a lot of experience to bring. The first test is not long away now and they are likely to get a fast bouncing track at the wanderers, Could Philander and Steyn be running riot again.

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | December 9, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    This is for Indian Selectors, better do your home work/Job which I have to do for you!!

    India Team for Odi

    1. Gambhir (captain) 2. Raina (vice Captain)3. Yuvraj 4. Zaheer 5.Rohit 6.Jadeja 7.D.Karthik(wicket keeper) 8.Irfan Pathan 9.Amit Mishra 10.Virat 11. Shami

    India Team for Test 1. Gambhir (captain) 2. Sehwag 3. Zaheer 4. Raina (vice captain) 5. Rohit 6. D Karthik (Wk) 7. Amit Mishra 8.Pujara 9.Jadeja 10. Irfan 11.Harbhajan 12.Shami

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    I wish this series was a 5 match :P

  • POSTED BY vishalpatel7 on | December 9, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    Steyn -> Sami Morkel -> B Kumar Philander -> Sharma Tsotsobe -> Mohit McLaren -> Umesh

    Duminy -> Jadeja / Ashwin

    Parnell -> No option :( Kallis -> No option :(

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    champion played like champion :D

  • POSTED BY sohailmalik1985 on | December 9, 2013, 7:35 GMT

    Here most of the comments in which people are complaining about indian bowling bowlers are not only culprits just look how in previous matches a target above 350+ was nothing for indian batting. They have the batsman like kohli, sharma and dhawan with more than 1000 runs in current year with avarages 50+ and almost 100 strike rate than whats wrong with them here???????? that they got out under 200. BCCI should think about it seriously why they always make batting friendly pitches they should maintain balance between bat and bowl otherwise indian cricket is ruined very soon because now you have no sachin, dravid, ganguly and sehwag they are great batsman and bat in all conditions.................... Indian cricket is in serious threat

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | December 9, 2013, 7:34 GMT

    Get ready MSD for lossing Test series as well, after long time you got these condition and great bowling attack that you cant handle. Mind less Dhavan spoken earlier in media that he is ready for this bouncy and pace bowling attack and have experience, who got out couple of time cheaply!! Better get him shut his mounth and if possible throw dhavan out and replace with Gambhir -the real opening batsman!Throw MSD completely out of Odi and Test Cricket where he is not fit, because he knows his one shot helicopter for T20!!B BCCI selectors are fools?? to give too many chances to MSD and world cup winner real champions like Yuvraj, Zaheer,Gambhir, Raina not giving too many chances even two important players Gambhir and Zek are out only because of MSD not wants them back!!!! THROW MSD OUT.he had not won 2011 world cup. It was those players Yuvi,Gambhir,Zaheer, Raina, and Sachin!! BCCI and his selectors are too partial for themselves and Msd!! Cant they consider Raina or Gambhir as Captain?

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | December 9, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    Congrats to South Africa on their thrashing of india again and taking this series. This result was expected by all those outside india as most people know how hard it is to go to South Africa and win. This really puts the series win of Pakistan into context. Another fantastic knock from De Kock and what can you say about Amla?he is Mr dependable...well done..

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | December 9, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    SECOND attempt at post as last was ignored.. Congrats to South Africa on their thrashing of india again and taking this series. This result was expected by all those outside india as most people know how hard it is to go to South Africa and win. This really puts the series win of Pakistan into context. Another fantastic knock from De Kock and what can you say about Amla?he is Mr dependable...well done..

  • POSTED BY siddhartha87 on | December 9, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    @GRVJPR before saying that SA cannot play spin you should look at their record in INdia and subcontinent. AB ,Kallis and AMla all averages above 55 in subcontinent.Also INdia have not beaten them in INdia for a while now.Your comments shows your limitatiion in knowledge of cricket. IMO a doctored pitch genius like Aswin will not do well against the likes of Kallis evn in rank turners.We had seen that in pat right when KP and Cook visited INdia.

  • POSTED BY cricpanther on | December 9, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    Congrats to AB n company, great performance! Msd(scared) said, can we send official to play cricket in south africa? The day when team got selected, I have imagined this situation, way early!!! This is the real Msd and few other indians who played so badly and time to tell them good bye. Players to give send offs: Msd (just good for T20 cricket and dont consider and take him on odis and test cricket, he is so smart on and off cricket that he is well aware to loose his captaincy against Gambhir and thats why he is not taking him on team, also giving too much imp to Rohit Sharma these days and balance him out with Virat!! for fcaptaincy..which no one can analyzed) Send offs: Dhavan (bad batman with No brain), Rahane (not fit for Ranji player as well!!), Virat (give him a break now), Ishant (not to keep in odi/test side),Yadav(send him for ranji practice), Ashvin( give him break); Players are real good: 1. Gautam Gambhir (appoint him odi +test captain)2.Zek3.Yuvi4Jadeja5.Raina6I.Pathan

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    @siri12345you have taken it too seriously mr. we know we are an ordinary team with ordinary batting and a pathetic bowling worse than india (not said club coz it would not give right idea) and half of the side having an eyesight problem in the field and the other half is too mature to field but you could have given us at least 1 match from each format in your prediction, i know pak team doesnt deserve 3 wins in a tour but still out of courtesy being a test team.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 7:19 GMT

    Why dhoni always wants to keep Raina ash win and jadeja in the team and don't want to give chance to gambhir harbhajan zaheer yuvraj they are much better players than these player in cricket experince matters

  • POSTED BY Fan1969 on | December 9, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    So now some think Pak is better than India. Just to remind everyone Pak lost the test series 3-0 to SA this year and has lost a test to Zimbabwe.

    Pak also lost ODI series in SA in 2013 beginning though won the recent one. BTW the pitches on offer recently were slower than Durban, Jo'berg that India played on.

    How can you make an opinion on Indian batsmen after 2 ODIs where no time to practice were given? Also remember Pak has Younis, Misbah in the ranks while India has no experienced batsmen at all.

    Ponting averaged 40 till 45 tests, Kallis was at 40 till 50 tests and here fans rush to bury the Indian batting youngsters after 2 ODIs. The only batsman looking really poor was Yuvi who did not play the 2nd ODI. Even greats like Tendulkar, Gilly, Ponting did not succeed in all ODIs as soon as they went overseas.

    Please be constructive and not belittle sportsmen on few performances. Let us be patient.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    INDIAN batting lacks technique and quality, ADMIT IT Soon you will see INDIA will stop playing away series :) fear of defeat made them shorten the tour

  • POSTED BY AB_DeVilliers on | December 9, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    The thing that has surprised me is that tactically, India have made errors. I recall during their previous tour to SA, they were tactically magnificent and that allowed them to draw the tests and marginally lose the ODI series. To back up what I'm saying: in the first ODI where conditions suited raw fast bowlers or ones who obtain more bounce, they went for their swing options. In the 2nd ODI when conditions perhaps favoured more accurate swing bowling, they opted for pace. In addition, the decision to bowl first in Durban was a brain-fade as there is no logical explanation in my opinion. India will show improvement skill wise in their bowlin and batting, no doubt. But their tactical awareness should improve if they are to achieve positive results.

  • POSTED BY Protears on | December 9, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    I find it hilarious that only excuses can be found when congratulations are in order, its hilarious that our bowling attack gets called mediocre and batting similar yet the excuse that Indian batsmen got themselves out. All I read every day is how India's super bowling will bounce back and how the batsmen are going to knock us to all parks, well fact belies fiction and the fact is we have contrary to "experts" pummeled India in rather brutal fashion on tough pitches for both teams, why can it not be that we have just outplayed India and a well done be in order?

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 9, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    I don't know how ICC decide teams ranking, but they should do some thing to give less points for match that is won by any team on their home ground, more points for winning on neutral venue and highest points if any team beat opposition in opposition's home ground. Then it will be tough competition for No.1 ranking among the teams.

  • POSTED BY NareshPodi on | December 9, 2013, 6:51 GMT

    Every country has its own strengths and advantage of being host. Our Indian strength is Batting pitches and SA's is bouncy pitches. When the same SA bowlers were played in INDIA, they felt the same heat.

    It is not the problem with Indian players, but the schedule(BCCI). To recover on foreign pitches, it takes some time to adjust, BCCI did't given that time.

    Failures happens sometimes, we need to accept and move on. We should not judge based on 1 or 2 matches.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 6:50 GMT

    Indian bowling is the main culprit. In India when they bowl badly and give away 300+ scores. Indian batsmen (because they know their own pitches and are comfortable playing on them) bail them out by chasing 350+ scores easily. Due to this the rank bad Indian bowling gets away with murder. But on the other hand, outside subcontinent, Indian batsmen are always under pressure because they are quite aware that their bowling is quite incapable of defending even a 300+ score plus batting on unfriendly, untried pitches puts extra pressure. Had Indian bowling been able to dismiss SA between 200-250, there would have been less pressure on Indian batsmen. Then feet movement would have been working and they would have had the luxury of leaving out lethal deliveries without the fear of increasing RR. A single win in SA will work wonders for Team India. But all depends on Indian bowling.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:48 GMT

    well don SA....India still world no odi team only thy need some experience bowlers like zaheer and harbajan singh ......................

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:42 GMT

    With more foreign tours,I think that unless they are willing to adapt and accept that they need to change, India will suffer even more.

    As for the Proteas, they had recently played Pakistan which is quite a strong team. They had faced superior fast bowling and superior spin which basically nullified any real chance India had against them. So it might be one way traffic all the way in this tour.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:42 GMT

    As expected the pathetic excuses are out, even though before hand India were suppose to win easily. The comment by Posted by Hiba.R on (December 9, 2013, 6:10 GMT) is pathetically hilarious. Your team got thrashed

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 9, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    As a Saffa fan, I have seen PAK play in my country and now I have seen India play in my country. Both very recently and back to back, so its now easy to compare.

    PAK is a much better team than India. PAK has far superior bowlers (both pace and spin) and their batsmen (except for Hafeez) have better technique against fast paced bowling. Guys like Maqsood, Misbah, Shezad are far more skillful on fast and seaming decks.

  • POSTED BY roger1981 on | December 9, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    I agree 90% of the comments which says it happens you win some and you loose some...MSD says we didn't get enough time to practice,,so does Virat says but then this tour had been fine basis schedule had we not altered the west indies series at home...In the past 2-3 years India have consistently altered series anyone toured subcontinent..why was that done? Anyway...why doesn't Indian players play in big bash league in Australia as that will help them to understand the conditions better as the world cup is in 2015...India will any ways going to loose the last match too...Kepler wessels asked Ravi shastri during commentary that Indian team had one day to get trained before the second match and they refused as MSD said we would like to take rest..? Ravi shastri didn't have a good answer as all he said may the team wanted to discuss the loss in the first ODI...

  • POSTED BY VinodGupte on | December 9, 2013, 6:33 GMT

    a complete whitewash. IND won't win even a single game on this tour. they deserve it because a) most of their pompous batsmen or fed on the IPL diet possessing no skills whatsoever to bat against the best b) BCCI schedules these tours as if they are scheduling luncheons giving no time for their team to adjust to conditions.

    i shudder to think what will happen when the Steyn and co. will bowl with the red ball with even more attacking field setting. the recent ENG and AUS tours will suddenly look better in comparison.

  • POSTED BY Iceman29 on | December 9, 2013, 6:32 GMT

    @ GRVJPR:Am an Indian and I think Some of your comments are out of frustration buddy...just chill....We should accept the defeat and move on that is what we should do right now (no offense bro)........but you are right about one thing SA has a similar weakness playing in subcontinent but that cannot be our excuse for this humiliating defeat...we can only blame the BCCI for ruining cricket in India by not preparing challenging pitches and the players to some extent...

  • POSTED BY ImiiJaved on | December 9, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    I am Pakistani, and I like Dhoni, his batting, often his captaincy too, these 2 tosses he won and asked SA to bat were I think not the best decisions, he should have realised this after losing first match and even recall the recent series of Pak with SA, where SA was struggling big time while chasing. If India would have set 250 on board, SA would have struggled to chase that even with India's weak bowling lineup. But now SA have played 2 good games and their batsmen form has returned, so now I feel like toss of 3rd match doesn't even matter, I hope 3rd match doesn't go one sided. Atleast I would love to see India fighting. and BCCI should make pitches bowling friendly as well so that their bowlers find some rythm otherwise I feel sorry for the Indian bowlers. And I am surprised to see the way Kohli is playing, he looks lost now, in first match D Kock dropped his catch and yet he again fell so early, and in the 2nd ODI again. He should show some patience on SA bouncy tracks.

  • POSTED BY Fan1969 on | December 9, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    Pls do not crucify such a young team. Just imagine if they would have competed well and won w/o practice in SA then India would have been on path to become like dominant WI and Aussie teams. Even those teams took a few years to start dominating. Not even best WI, Aus teams won everything in sight.

    Such a young team will fall a few times but I maintain a bright future awaits Indian cricket. Even Umesh and Ishant despite all failings are very young.

    All the correct decisions were taken. Rahane was given a look-in, Mohit and Bhuvi were sent a message that they need to pick up pace and accuracy.

    This is a skilled team and are learning quickly. Just because they won ICC tournament does not mean they have become dominant like WI/Aus. They can do it but it will take time. Fans cannot be fickle. Rohit, Jadeja took time to succeed and hopefully Umesh/Ishant can come back like M Johnson

    @amahch SL have yet to win a Test in India, Australia so which overseas record are you looking?

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    A two week set of practise matches before the internationals are a must in SA, Aus and Eng.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:21 GMT

    It is very interesting to see that there are more Pakistan fans who had commented on this particular report, than fans from any other nationality! There used to be a contest between a few Sri Lankans and a few Pakistanis in rejoicing at India's failures; but in this case the Pakistani's have beaten Sri Lankan by a huge factor! Congrats to the winners!

  • POSTED BY zain29 on | December 9, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    With the track more suitable for Indian batsmen then the previous one, It was a little surprising that the Indian batting line-up folded without much of a fight. I think its time that the Indian team should realize that in order to be counted as a top-notch team now is the time for a solid performance.

    Remember in the modern context of the game it is performance in England, Aus & SA which determines the true worth / ability of a team.

  • POSTED BY siri12345 on | December 9, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    mzm agrreed that pak is currently better than ind but we can know who is the best subcontinent team once sl tour of uae starts later this month.my prediction for that series is-t-20-sl 2 pak 0,odi sl 5 pak 0 n tests sl 3 pak 0.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    Com'on indian fans see if the following stats help you with your huge thrashings by SA.

    Well Pak was the first test team tolose to Bangladesh, first test team to lose Ireland, lost a test and an odi match to zimbabve this year, was almost beaten by Afghanistan,lost two odi series to SA in 2013, lost t20 series 2-0 to SA, got thrashed by SA in the second test. But remeber if you are going to the records Pak is still ahead of india in head to head odi matches even in last few years they have been meeting in icc events and india is winning. whatever you quote from the past is not gonna change worst batting performance by Ind. i was hoping to see an african bully being bullied by VK, R. Sharma, and MSD but i guess fairy tales are not true after all. you saw afg scoring better than Ind vs a team which beat the team ind played against. what hurts india more is not their loss but a loss to a team which lost to Pak, as in wt20 it hurt india not qfiyng in SF but less than Pk replcng them in SF

  • POSTED BY siri12345 on | December 9, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    hahahaha mzm i also think the same.perhaps this guy gvrjpr is rehearsing for a comedy show in future and practising for it here.u should know that this is a cricket forum n not a forum to rehearsh for ur comedy show.

  • POSTED BY Giant-Guru on | December 9, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    The SA bowling was pretty ordinary carrying ontheir backs the humiliation done to their board and the tour by the BCCI, so revenge was in the air and even empires seems to have got influenced by that in giving Rahane out when the ball missed the bat by miles. Except for Steyn none of the SA bowler was good, the Indian batsmen got out for not playing to their strength rather than due to good bowling. Tsotsobe's ordinary bowling fetching him 4 wickets is the enough to proove my point. Otherwise Indian batting talent is far beyond compare to SA's. Both matches were gifted to SA.

  • POSTED BY Jda123 on | December 9, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    As expected, India getting hammered badly, Kohli 2,0 would be the true scores if he didn't get dropped.

    This just proves what everyone already knew.

  • POSTED BY amilag on | December 9, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    This is a classic example, why Indian players batting averages should not give any consideration in rankings or classifying them as great batsman or classic batsman or great batsman all the time. Because more than 80% of thos have been scored in pretty flat tracks in small grounds.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    cricket is still bowler's game, u must have a decent bowling attack to survive, all the indian bowlers are mid-yorker nothing more than that and u cant rely on part timers and u also cant play with 8-9 batsmen, be brave give confidence to your bowling attack and suddenly you will find that things are going your way

  • POSTED BY gulzee on | December 9, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    this is the right time for BCCI must think to make some better pitches than making batting paradises for betterment of their own team..just making records and cumulative scores of 700 per ODI is not the way to portrait true spirit of cricket..they must start playing more often out of India to understand that cricket is not only about batting and that is also at home ground..i was stunned to see those batsmen scoring odd 100's every other match in India recently, playing like amateurs to the bowling attack of SA..and for ICC how they approved series and planned them and then ranked teams..totally not understood..

  • POSTED BY deshwani on | December 9, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    @ GRVJPR... its happens sometime... go to doctor and get check up of your blood pressure and always keep checking equipment of blood pressure when India go away from Home :) keep rest assure

  • POSTED BY SHK1 on | December 9, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    A no. 1 team is one that can win on all tracks, beit spin, bouncy or swing. Only the Aussies and the West Indies have been able to achieve that. One thing is proven now, no matter how good your batting is, unless your bowling is good you cannot win matches. Back in the days of Wasim and Waqar, Pakistan were bowled out on dismal scores on a number of occassions, but despite that they were able to win quite a few of those matches on the back of their bowling against good teams.

  • POSTED BY Ibanezfan on | December 9, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    Congrats to the Saffers on another massive win. Clinical, ruthless and skillful. Awful, awful performance by India. I really hope this performance, and indeed the tour, banishes the embarrassing hype we're being subjected to regarding Rohit, Dhawan, Kohli, Shami, Ashwin et al. That said, why, in the first place,was the team that won the Champions Trophy even meddled with? Why weren't they just persisted with, as is, for a year or more? They pulled off stunning wins on the trot but are now reduced to this sham 'international' team. And Raina once again?! Just bring Karthik into the team already and back him at least for half the time you've backed Rohit. The guy has the requisite skills to score big and quick if he is persisted with, especially in a crisis as he's demonstrated repeatedly. Pujara too. Else, we're speeding back to the 90s when every game was waiting and hoping for a miracle instead of a hard fought sporting encounter.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 6:03 GMT

    india will certainly imrove in a days to come and bring their loss to less than 130 next time,they come to bat.....

  • POSTED BY sachin_vvsfan on | December 9, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    Dhawan should have given some respect to steyn. He was chasing every ball and went to a rash shot. you can say he had to accelerate but he should have waited for other bowlers like Rohit. Same goes to him he should cut down his pull shot. No need to play this in SA. Top order is really putting pressure on the lower order. Raina batted decently but that was a spectacular catch.

    The vultures are back to haunt India. @siri12345 No matter what you say reg Kholi you cannot deny his talent. He proved it all over the world and will take his time. But mean time how is ur Lanka team doing?

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:57 GMT

    India failed again!

    Solution: I think they must boycott all those who invites them outside sub-continent, trust me they will be #1 side for next decade. BCCI take it serious, its million dollar tip

  • POSTED BY soumyas on | December 9, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    Same old behavior, same old problem, same old excuse. World's most powerful cricketing board is still unable to find a solution. When Indian descent Amla can bat so beautifully on same tracks, why not Indians ? One needs to appreciate Pakistanis for what they did on same tracks, Indians need to win in SA and Australian pitches to be called No.1 team, Until then it is just self declared No. 1, has no true meaning.

  • POSTED BY Falew on | December 9, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    @GRVJPR-I can see your fluster.But the best thing is find the solutions for your team's weakness and try to adjust the conditions rather than call these tracks are flat tracks.Actually pitches like SA,AUS are the toughest tracks to play on.You called those tracks are flat then why your team couldn't score even 200+ runs on those flat tracks,Don't say stupid reasons and don't try to underestimate other players,Accept the ultimate truth.your players can't play on tough conditions,Flat track is the reason for your num 1 ranking.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:49 GMT

    @GRVJPR Sir, who is the current world champion. who is the no 1 side and still you xcuse about tracks,,,,, they failed since 1991 india has just won 5 odis v RSA in south africa ?????? no xcuse sir,,,,

  • POSTED BY ubaidmasoody on | December 9, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    @GRVJPR. Yeah mate you right. Amla can't play spin. Hope you remember last tour of SA to India. Amla only managed to be leading run scorer of series on square turners. Pity him. Maybe he should be taking classes from you. lol

  • POSTED BY Mobin99 on | December 9, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    @GRVJPR, could u pls further explain your words "useless series" & "Turning Tracks", i think u meant to say where India is not winning that is useless series and turning tracks means Indian dead tracks, is it true ?

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 9, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    South Africa has not lost an away series in years. At home as we saw, they are lethal.

  • POSTED BY Ramansilva on | December 9, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    5th ranked ODI team in mouring beat 1st ranked team. What an embarassment. Kohli was like a alley player. Is he the player that many Indian fans cried foul saying that he was not picked by ICC for the ODI team of the year.

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 9, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    Watching the game last night which was like watching a repeat performance from the first ODI. When each Indian batsman came to the crease I couldn't help noticing how huge their averages were - most the of the top 5 had averages over 50 but had such poor technique. How is this possible?

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 9, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    Yes India are special in home conditions and ordinary abroad but that's true for many teams, even SA although we have done better than most abroad in recent history. That's what cricket is about, win at home and compete abroad, that's all fans can expect. Also think India are paying the price for flat pitches in India. Their batsman have disproportionately high averages in first class level aswell as their fast bowlers too. If they improve their pitches so good fast bowlers can average in lower 20ties and good batsman in mid to high 40ties, I think that's a good balance. Eg Pakistan, SA , England, Aussie

  • POSTED BY siri12345 on | December 9, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    @grvjvr it seems u hav clearly lost ur mind isnt it???.same can be said about indian team as well and next wc is in australia where ind has 0 percent chance of winning considering india,s away record.guys like kohli,rohit dhawan can only play in india.not anywhere else and keep posting such humorous comments.it makes india,s loss all the more sweeter after reading ur comments.cricinfo plz publish this time .

  • POSTED BY Rinsh on | December 9, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    @GRVJPR cool bro i dont know under what frustration You are in...don't scribble anything ...Dont You forget the league match Btw India Vs South Africa where they chase 291 successfully..Wasnt that turning track..

  • POSTED BY Philippe on | December 9, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    that's why I always rated SRT & Dravid above all..............& now Amla & Clark above rest in current era & KP to some extent...... players are those who can perform anywhere across the globe irrespective of batting conditions.... Lara, Sanga, Kallis, ponting were never so prolific in unfamiliar conditions.... LARA KALLIS PONTING in Asia & Sanga in ENG AUS & SA....... stilll I assume that our Pujara & Kohli r two quality players...

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 9, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    @GRVJPR: your comments are hilarious specially " Jaques kallis is worst than Umesh Yadava as an allrounder".

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 9, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    Unlucky Rohit Sharma missed a double century by mere 181 runs. It's unfair that Indians were not allowed to bring pitches along with them. Otherwise Dhawan and Kohli never score less than a century.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:27 GMT

    First match India lost by 141 runs, second match India lost by 134 runs. at least india is improving

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    Everyone, please get your facts right. India has indeed scored more than 350 or 360 runs. It's just that they have taken more matches/innings to do so. 218 + 146 is more than 350 ... ain't it?

  • POSTED BY UAETigers on | December 9, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    @GRVJPR ...this is the most funny comment I ever read at Cricinfo!!!! Who says eral test of batsmen is against spin? it's always against Qualuty fast bowling!! Pls accpet that Indian greats are flat track bullies and apart from few or occassional performances they never had a consistent averages overseas!! Indian team rode to ICC ranking my winning almost 80% of matches at home and this process should be re-evaluated. got thrased at ENG / AUS and now SA. got defeated ay home by ENG!!! Now again same story that I will defeat you at my backyard :)!!! WC2011 was hosted in India to make IND WIN!!! Just try winning a series or tournament in SA/ENG/AUS/NZ/WI!!!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 5:22 GMT

    india are finished . drop yuvraj. raina. well done south Africa.

  • POSTED BY Iceman29 on | December 9, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    As an Indian fan while I congratulate SA on this marvelous victory, SA team and fans shouldn't be overwhelmed by this win?? They are yet to prove their worth in subcontinent like India yet to prove in SA....Having said that will ICC please change the number 1 ranking of India....Right now Ind dont deserve the number 1 ranking....but am sure we will improve..

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    What did Dinhesh kartik do wrong to be thrown out of the team and got Yuvraj in? Dinesh was outstanding in Champions Trophy and every time the team playing overseas he performs. He has to be in the team for Yuvraj as soon as possible and Stuart Binny can play the role of fast bowling all-rounder and a perfect lower order batsman who can hit hard.

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | December 9, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    @GRVJPR. Amla scored 253 in India against your mediocre bowlers. And why picking on De Kock. He just started his career. Look at your Kohli and Dhawan. They are sitting duck against us in SA. If this wicket was a flat track, then how come your team couldnt even score 150 against us.

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 9, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    @GRVJPR: Are you talking part in a comedy show? The best part was " Jaques kallis is worst than Umesh Yadava as an allrounder".

  • POSTED BY ABKhanISB on | December 9, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    My sincere advice to India is, to play in Afghanistan with Afghanistan for sometime. If they could manage to beat Afghans then they should think about playing in other countries

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    Why are u guys mentioning Pakistan in the list of troubled teams like india? Pakistan just bashed SA in its own backyard and the is only team to beat India in India in the last 4 yrs.

  • POSTED BY amilag on | December 9, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    Indian bowling attack is the weakest among test playing nations. They can't produce results in bowler's friendly wickets even.

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    It is high time BCCI did something about Indian bowling. Please change the bowling coach. But do not appoint a high profile past superstar i.e. Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Kapil Dev, Ian Botham, Any Roberts, Michael Holding, Alan Donald, Denis Lillee, Jeff Thomson etc will talk big, charge you a bomb and deliver too little. All of these, and the likes have been natural born cricketers who just bowled and got wickets without much struggle. Batsmen in their prime time were overtly cautious when facing them which gave these bowlers that much extra edge and really were never required to build strategies to bowl out a team. So stars like them may not be the right choice. But bowlers like Aqib Javed, Evan Chatfield, Ian Bishop, Madal Lal worked their way up through sheer hard work and strategy. These kind will be beneficial for Indian bowlers. If only BCCI listens and corrects itself.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    South Africa can win as many useless home series on their own pitches as they wish, But they can never win a real thing. Once they go to turning tracks they are sitting ducks.

  • POSTED BY amilag on | December 9, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    ICC should seriously look into their ranking criteria now. This series give the message that it should be corrected immediately.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 9, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    Always said if Kallis and Ponting play the amount of games Tendulkar played in India, they go down as better batsmen. So called prodigies and top batsmen don't even have the courage to stand their ground at the crease. A little bounce, a little movement and they look like amateurs. India will find it hard to be competitive on this tour, let alone win a match. But no matter, soon enough they'll be back home making merry on those flat tracks against New Zealand or something. Their fans will be lapping up the pomp and fa

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 9, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    @amahch: FYI Pakistan recently won ODI series in South Africa which Sri Lanka or India has never.

  • POSTED BY Crazy_Pk on | December 9, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Hey indians! Test series too will go against you as this time you don't have great Tendulkar and these hometown kings like kholi, dhawan, rohit can't score these bouncy wickets. Hope for the best for you guys

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 9, 2013, 5:00 GMT

    Next time they should bring in Dinda, Irfan and Nehra. India has a great variety of express tear away fast bowlers.

  • POSTED BY Htc-Android on | December 9, 2013, 4:59 GMT

    @GRVJPR. And Indian players are great players against the short ball. Isn't my friend?

  • POSTED BY Desihungama on | December 9, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    @mahi678- Very well observed and gsingh7 - I adore your patriotism.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 4:55 GMT

    De Kock and Amla can only play T-20. They run away whenever ball is spinning and turning. Jaques kallis is worst than Umesh Yadava as an allrounder.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 4:54 GMT

    South African batsmen only plays in SOuth Africa. They cannot handle spin and turning balls. They are scared of spinning ball hence they make these flat tracks in South Africa.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    SAFs first wicket fell in 35.1 overs. In the same time/overs the whole Indian teams was out of the ground.. Interesting competition..

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    De Kock is a sitting Duck agaisnt Spinners. He can only play is South Africa. His real test is in India where ball turns and bounces and he will fail like Snagkara, ponting and all pakistani batsmen.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:51 GMT

    I dun understand the current ranking system, it should be on merit and worth more points to the win outside the home land, India have been totally destroyed in front of SAF Attack especially quality Bowlers like Dale Steyn, But on the Protese needs to Add alteast One Quality spinner in their squad to provide them those advantage which can't be attained by Seamers..

  • POSTED BY Just_Sam on | December 9, 2013, 4:51 GMT

    In my opinion, Team India lost the series before it started, because so much was being said about Steyn, Morkel, fast bouncy pitches, India's past record in SA, pundits were skeptical about an Indian win, scribes & TV anchors were cribbing about recent past Indian wins as on batting paradises & smaller grounds, forgetting that it was also a batting paradise for the opponent. All this kind was scene creates doubts in the minds of players itself and they become over cautious in their approach. I remember when Ganguly's team drew in Aus because at that time Ganguly was very aggressive and it rubbed on to the team. Later years saw rise of one of the fastest Oz bowler called Shaun Tait on extra fast bouncy Perth pitch and remember how Tait was manhandled by the Indian batsmen who ultimately got into depression and did not play for another year. So it is not that Indian batsmen can not handle fast bowlers outside India. Just let us leave them alone and they will be okay.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:49 GMT

    doesn,t matter one series loss , they had already won 6 series before in 2013

  • POSTED BY Muhammad.Naeem on | December 9, 2013, 4:49 GMT

    I am feeling so pity for indians. They are lion in india and Jacks in overseas pitches. What a shameful display.

  • POSTED BY Humdingers on | December 9, 2013, 4:43 GMT

    @Amrantha Baniya Chhetri - we'll miss you. Go buy your SA Jersey and wait 100 years for any ICC trophies!

  • POSTED BY Bhaggie on | December 9, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    The indian team should have played at least two warm-up matches in order to adapt to the SA conditions.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | December 9, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    @Brandenew , one of the hilarious posts i have ever read in recent times!! Great sense of humor , i mean it. Respect :-)

  • POSTED BY just_chill_chill on | December 9, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    @fatier what about ireland? pakistan is famous for losing to ireland also. afghanistan gave them a run for thier money very recently, and pakistan was very lucky to survive that game too.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | December 9, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    @gsingh7 , you must be living under rocks !!! Aus have never lost a test series in SA since their re-admission !!! And Eng has beaten SA away in a test-series in 2005 !! Get your facts right !!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    South Africa, Austrailia, England they are playing very good cricket outside their countries. Subcontinent teams, they are facing trouble against the bouncy wickets. I could not understand, why India Pakistan and Siri Lanka not making the bouncy wickets in their country. They are making batting wickets. Batsman is making the record. for fast bowler there is nothing.

  • POSTED BY amahch on | December 9, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    What I have seen in cricket history, since last two decades, all Asian teams struggled overseas, SL have a little better track record in overseas. Pakistani and Indians players need mental toughness.

  • POSTED BY Arunblitz on | December 9, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    India team needs gautham gambir becuase he is more talented batsman than dhawan and he played well against southafrica before.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    Now kids are enough to coup the indian bowling attack and real pity is the batting which did not show any courage, unfortunately. Lets only pray for indian alround performance.

  • POSTED BY GRVJPR on | December 9, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    Hashim Amla bounced out by Shami Ahmed. He can't play short ball ust like Sangakara, Misbah, and Jaywardene.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:27 GMT

    o..u lose. u lose big, but atleast show a fight..match was over in 1st 10 overs.1st 10 overs needed to be blocked..only singles maybe in amla style..20 or 30/0 in 1st ten would have done the trick for india...dhoni jadeja raina were comfortable in later overs.indian batsmen have forgotten patience when required, due flat tracks back home.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    we r all know india cant do anything in SA soil. rohit and dhawan total waste

  • POSTED BY fatier on | December 9, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    @just_chill_chill If you can recall,India lost to Zimbabwe in an ODI series in 2009/2010 :D Zimbabwe wasn't even half the team they are now.

  • POSTED BY Brandenew on | December 9, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Indian team is like that kid who sings all poems in front of his parents but goes mute when asked to sing while visiting a relatives house!

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:08 GMT

    Looking at the current batting display from India I guess its high time that the BCCI should ask South African board to have T20s instead of test series. None of the Indian batsmen looked like playing a 50 over game and it seems like its only T20s format in which they can survive outside India. I think its high time that India does some serious thinking about their batting line up if they want to entertain any thoughts of doing well in upcoming series and the next world cup .Gautam Gambhir should be brought back as he is a quality player who had done well outside India. Also I don't understand why Pujara is not in the ODI lineup. In conditions like what we have in SAF (and what India would get in other countries) , a quality player like Pujara would be more then handy. What we have right now as batsmen are all aggressive stroke players who look awesome in home conditions but in countries like SAF , we need some grafters also who can score runs without taking any risks (like Amla).

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    where are all the indian fans gone who were telling that this is a new generation of players and will destroy the SA bowling....where are you hiding now indian fans WHEREEE..... your batting ,bowling and fielding is not even close to the standard of SA team. this is great ....i'm going to buy a SA team jersey

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    I think India should play only home soil and chase down 350+ regularly.

  • POSTED BY Brandenew on | December 9, 2013, 4:06 GMT

    Indian team is like that kid who sings all poems in front of his parents but goes mute when asked to sing while visiting a relatives house!

  • POSTED BY sandy_bangalore on | December 9, 2013, 4:06 GMT

    Very very happy as an Indian that we got a timely reality check. THis will hopefully enable our media and the masses who idolise our overpaid so-called superstars, to assess the true strength of our cricket team, which only wins when when the wickets are pancake flat(all the pitches in India) and are slow and low(with weak bowling oppositions(in england this year, and in windies). The likes of Shikhar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Rahane have now shown that its a different ball game when you face a top class pacers in their own den, as opposed to facing darren sammy, faulkner ,mckay,gabriel in Indore and rajkot and gwalior!

  • POSTED BY Roshini on | December 9, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    Oh SA! you beauty! First came Annihilation then came Humiliation..with guaranteed Radiation game after game BCCI and MSD will not mind Termination.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    This series is going to be the price we would be paying for all the celebrations and parties for sachin's retirement.iInstead had India had gone to SA as per the original schedule and proper preparations things would not have been this bad.Again surprised that nobody has questiioned Dhoni's decision of chasing against SA's attack.We all know how SA can bungle up chasing even modest totals.But i think our batsma would fare better in Tests.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 4:02 GMT

    @sohail khan... nice one bro ..u r spot on...

  • POSTED BY crazytaurean on | December 9, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    It is just those days when nothing goes your way. The difference...the Top 3 of the Indian batting lineup have not performed. If they would have performed, the bowling would not have been blamed, and maybe we would have had a win yesterday. Time for introspective batting. Also believe, that some guys are in red hot form like deKock and Steyn. South Africa have a definite gameplan and is evident. The day India get the Top 3 of SA out early, India should win handsomely.Alas, the series is dead now.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 3:56 GMT

    I've been disappointed for the umpteenth time since it's been the practice of our Indian team to lose without a hint of fight especially overseas. If there's a winner then there should be a loser but what irritates me is that the manner in which we Indians lose match after match. There's neither fight nor back-bone for us Indians. Come on Dhoni & co all is not lost show some fight (even if we lose 3-0 in odi's & 2-0 in tests) play a minimum of 400 overs per test & I certainly don't want a repeat performance of England & Australia series where we lost the 10 test matches within 3-4 days.

  • POSTED BY umbuly on | December 9, 2013, 3:52 GMT

    It would be foolish not to try Pujara in the next ODI. He is the one with the right temperament and flexible technique able to adapt to both formats.

  • POSTED BY CoolNite on | December 9, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    What happened to indian batsmans now? just few weeks ago they were able to make 350+ runs but now. lol ?, this is called getting exposed to the max, they are good in flat tracks they can make runs, what happened now? owned much?

    as i already knew it, they would get mauled by SA, so dont be surprised boys this isnt india, its a fast south african pitch, LOL.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 3:47 GMT

    It is increasingly becoming obvious that Indians cannot play overseas. They can play only on shirtfronts or dust bowls. Under sporting conditions, this team stands no chance. Neither the bowling inspires nor the batting has the bottle to ride through the tough conditions. God knows how long the 2 test matches are going to last. SA bowling would not need more than 70 - 80 overs per innings to humiliate this team.

  • POSTED BY black_bird on | December 9, 2013, 3:46 GMT

    who cares about this unimportant tournament. still we are wc champions and #1 team.

  • POSTED BY Marcio on | December 9, 2013, 3:45 GMT

    I for one am delighted to see justice being served on the Indian team here - so-called number one being thrashed senseless by number 5. All this rah rah about how great our batsmen are because they can score big time on tiny grounds with absurdly flat pitches, nor DRS and some very strange home town decisions going on.

    I do believe that karma is an Indian concept, no?

  • POSTED BY sanga2020 on | December 9, 2013, 3:44 GMT

    FLAT TRACK BULLIES...I's is proven everytime India tour outside of subcontinent.

  • POSTED BY Keshav123456 on | December 9, 2013, 3:33 GMT

    I think its time to get rid of Raina and Jadeja. They are given enough chances and all they score is their average of 30-35. It high time to give chance to new players in those slots.

  • POSTED BY Deedee2013 on | December 9, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    Dhoni is doing too much experimentation with the bowlers. None of the top bowlers were given full quota. When shami was in good rhythm in his last spell and took 3 wickets with good length bowling, why suddenly he brings Umesh for the last over which went for 20 runs ??

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 3:29 GMT

    Best batting lineup ....heheheheh....

  • POSTED BY Deedee2013 on | December 9, 2013, 3:26 GMT

    It is beyond good batting or bowling. India lost more due to the excellent catches and half chances SA took, while India keeps missing all of them. Rohit, Dhoni, Jadeja made the right strokes but got beaten by the diving fielders, whereas Ashwin has been too slow to react to the slip catches, at least twice in the two games so far.

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | December 9, 2013, 3:12 GMT

    the indian batsmen who were tumbling all sorts of records at home are largely clueless and nobody is surprised by their showing. That is why records made in indian conditions should be clearly marked. their quality comes under question now. I was expecting that kohli and co will prevail but their balloon has burst loudly.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 3:10 GMT

    The Indian team is a real hero in their own field, but outside of the country they r just like a meww. Let's come to Bangladesh or invite Bangladesh for 1 time. Then Veru will get his answer..........

  • POSTED BY just_a_fan on | December 9, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    To all those asking how team India is ranked no.1 in the world and questioning the ICC ranking system, let me remind you that before this series India had won 6 ODI tournaments in a row (3 of them overseas) and they are also the World Champions & Champions Trophy champions ! Meanwhile, 'Chokers' S.A. can never dream of winning the WC !

  • POSTED BY RajeshNaik on | December 9, 2013, 3:05 GMT

    Where are Umesh fans? Come out and speak guys! He is on and off kind of bowler. He may take wickets in the next match. But more often he will give only runs and take no wickets. Ishant is much better than him and it was nice to see Ishant bowl today. Ishant is important for India's plans whatever the cricket experts/writers say. Again it was only Shami who took wickets. One who is not afraid of going for runs, will always get wickets. At last the darling of the nation Bhuvaneshwar gets dropped for this match. He needs to learn how to bowl and take wickets when there is no swing assistance. Or else he will soon be out of the team itself.

  • POSTED BY cricketlover_crazy on | December 9, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    MSD is the main reason for India doing well overseas. He is an average captain at best, the results in India were mainly due to our flat batting track batsmen clicking. MSD is worst than mushafir rahim, the bd captain. believe me nothing will change in Indian cricket. The people here complaining about our poor performance overseas will praise our boys once IPL and indian season starts. Nothing will change in India be it cricket or politics. Period.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    after 2 ODI, india proved they are only domestic team............

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 9, 2013, 2:51 GMT

    seriously this is real show of indian team' they should play only upload and only home series. this is my advice.

  • POSTED BY gladly on | December 9, 2013, 2:49 GMT

    what is happening indian has been loosing massively and england too in australia by a good margin.

  • POSTED BY gladly on | December 9, 2013, 2:47 GMT

    This indian team is full of talent i dont know why they fails.There vain is coz of bcci u cant make a tour of sa without adding some practice matches or 7 days time.

  • POSTED BY gladly on | December 9, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    This indian team is full of talent i dont know why they fails.There vain is coz of bcci u cant make a tour of sa without adding some practice matches or 7 days time.

  • POSTED BY team_india_no1 on | December 9, 2013, 2:38 GMT

    I am disappointed by Indian performance in SA but is not critical of the Indian batsman's technique. They are not able to adapt quickly and i can see that happening with a new young side with such a fiery best bowling side on home friendly conditions. There is not a need to compare with any other side as well as questioning the technique. In-form England are seen hoping and fending themselves in the Ashes in conditions similar to England. India are playing with a young side just fresh from their home stretch and i can't expect them to win straight away in alien conditions. Also pitches prepared for bilateral series are more tailor-made than for ICC championship which India are winning handsomely now.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    i think idnain cricket board can help their team by enforcing other board to paly their home searies in india. every one knows indian cricket board have the power and money to do the same.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 2:29 GMT

    India, come to Bangladesh, see what can we do for you.

  • POSTED BY mahi678 on | December 9, 2013, 2:25 GMT

    see the green dots on De Kocks bat. you can see brown dots on bat when matches played in india.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | December 9, 2013, 2:07 GMT

    Just a continuation of their WHITEWASHING in Australia and England ! How can these guys think they're the best batsman if they can't play anywhere but India ? this is also the reasons Indian batting averages should be reduced by 15/20 when comparing to other nations as they get to bat on flatdecks for the majority of their cricket.

  • POSTED BY mahi678 on | December 9, 2013, 2:03 GMT

    its so clear that indian team is in immense pressure, esp. the batting. bowlrs are underdogs as always. I hope batsman will come good soon.

  • POSTED BY reddawn1975 on | December 9, 2013, 2:02 GMT

    HAHAHA India glory players exposed yet again outside of there own country where they make there pitches flat as tacs they are just not that good a team and South Africa has shown that with ease

  • POSTED BY _Cover_Drive on | December 9, 2013, 1:55 GMT

    Ok India lost! So what. They had just won a Champions trophy and Tri-Series on foreign soils.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 1:50 GMT

    only solution for the loss bring back sehwag and gambhir to the squad

  • POSTED BY siddhartha87 on | December 9, 2013, 1:45 GMT

    @gsingh Dont forget about Sangakara .He has tremendous record outside subcontinent. Ha saved games for Sri Lanka in Australia something which hasnot been done by any Indian for a long time.

    Indian batsman lacks skill to play on good sporting tracks. The Durban track was not that venomous at all.Still they failed.

  • POSTED BY vish2020 on | December 9, 2013, 1:41 GMT

    Pakistani fans are very happy with india's loses but you still hold the mantle for losing to zimbabwe and losing all your dignity while india beat them 5-0. hahah sure laugh now..

  • POSTED BY wake_up_india on | December 9, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    The Indian fans need look no farther than themselves to understand why, once again, an Indian team is being humiliated on foreign soil. Indian fans like watching batting centric cricket games with lots of fours and sixes. That is why flat pitches are prepared in India -- it is not as if grass does not grow in India. As long as IPL and Ranji matches are played on flat pitches, Indian batsmen will be clueless when facing balls that are bouncing and swinging in excess of 140 kmph. This is a foretaste of the next World Cup in Australia.

  • POSTED BY ShanNachimuthu on | December 9, 2013, 1:36 GMT

    This time it is both bowling and batting. We've got only Shami who is capable of bowling any conditions. Need to find few Shamis to dominate the world cricket. In India only the batsmen are hailed as heros and bowlers are not promoted and followed. The media is looking for pretty face batsmen and promoting them. After Kapli Dev we've not produced any iconic fast bowlers. Now people and media talks more about Kholis & Rhoits. In India the cricket is all about batting and scoring 4s & 6s. A bowler who takes 3 wickets in an ODI should be treated and hailed like a batsmen scored 50 runs. Here in India, In an match a bowler takes 5 wickets while a batsmen from his side scores 100 and the batsmen will be awarded with 'Man of the Match'. The people and media will talk about the bowlers performance for 5 mins for 5 wickets but about the batsman they will talk for 10 days. First this attitude has to change in INDIA to produce quality pace bowlers.It may take another decade for us. God bless.

  • POSTED BY Crick_Expert on | December 9, 2013, 1:35 GMT

    India should hire bowling coach from PAK or SA

  • POSTED BY Crick_Expert on | December 9, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    India should get rid old batsmen and hire new talented players from U-19.

  • POSTED BY CrickFans007 on | December 9, 2013, 1:31 GMT

    one suggestion for Indian team they should not play out side India, Flat and dirty tracks in India are better for them. Can we see same dance of indian batsman against SA Bowling in 3rd Odi. Big Shame for a team. Playing on Dirty Flat wickets Trend set by Sachin make 100s on dirty tracks.All Indians are silence. Take it easy:)White wash is coming

  • POSTED BY cricketforpeace on | December 9, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    Indians have no where to hide now. It is confirmed and official Indians do not have the requisite technique nor skill to combat true pace, bonce and swing. Reared on pitches in India where the norm is to have a knee level bounce only, the Indian batsmen have failed miserably. In all probability, they will place their heads in sand and believe their batsmen are still the best. If the BCCI has wisdom, they would indulge in preparing at least some pacy wickets at home and nurturing real pace. With the current trend, I predict a 0-2 loss in the Test series against S Africa now. The BCCI did not make it any easy for the Indian cricketers - instead of having a longer tour as scheduled earlier; the now curtailed tour taking place has left very little time for the Indians to acclimatise. I also suspect that a similar fate as now will befall the Indians on their future New Zealand and England tours. And of course they stand no chance of retaining the World Cup in 2015 in Australia!

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | December 9, 2013, 1:06 GMT

    All the paper tigers have been exposed - Dhawan, Kohli, Rohit, and Raina. Actually Rohit and Raina were seem to be doing fine until they got out to brilliant catches. This was Rahane's first game, so he can be excused. But what about Dhawan and Kohli - they have been piling up centuries on flat tracks in India.

  • POSTED BY spookygobee on | December 9, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    Indians playing in India on a typical Indian flat track = number 1 ranked odi team. All the international matches should be played in neutral venue. Then we will know who is best.

  • POSTED BY nareshgb1 on | December 9, 2013, 0:28 GMT

    Surprised to see Raina held back to no 5 - in India he was being promoted to 4 to "have an alternative for Yuvi". Suddenly what happened to that plan? I mean Yuvi was not even in the playing eleven.....

    Wait a minute - Rahane was now being used to build an alterenative for Raina of course. Silly me. Genius MS.

  • POSTED BY on | December 9, 2013, 0:16 GMT

    in the meantime what people have not noticed is that hashim amla has reached 4,000 runs in odi s which is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy faster then any body else in the past or present , he has an average of 53 in odis only less then goerge bailey of australia who has not played as much odi as him , and there is literally no one at present who even comes close to him except jonathan trott who has his own problems to solve now , so i think we are in for a fantastic career , lets see if he can keep it up , he ll definitely beat kohli and viv richards easily if he scores like this to 5,000 run mark

  • POSTED BY TRAM on | December 8, 2013, 23:50 GMT

    It looks like Indians have mental block against Dale Styne. They are either going in to a shell against him or showing unnecessary aggression both resulting in failures. They are NOT getting out to unplayable deliveries. Just plain simple good out-swingers on off stump. Cant they play to the merit of the ball? (at least try to?).

    India gave 20 runs in the last over because one Mr. Yadava did not know or practice yorkers during all his rest months.

    BTW, Does Indian team have any bowling / batting coaches ? If a team consistently fails abroad will they not be asked a few questions?

    I wish India had the overseas-proven batsman DKarthik in place of technically weak Raina. Not that it would have changed the result though. That and Dhoni's bowl-first approach could have reduced the margins and brought closer matches.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 23:35 GMT

    India did better than last game. Ist match lost by 151 runs this time 134 runs so they are improving. :):):)

  • POSTED BY cric.rash on | December 8, 2013, 23:33 GMT

    whats a brillinat Answer of Kholi Press confrence by winning this series by the SA, De Kock Bk to Bk tons following Jamshed.... How India Claim No1 side in ODI, are they have any justification after losing the series, only thing they are No 1 on the table due to monoply over ICC, because they invited so many teams to visist India, the conditions suit their batsman,s...that was the even only resaon they were on No1 in test ranking too....if you take their winning average out side india they will never ever become No 1 side...Thats reality and we should accept it. Well done SA and awaking call for India

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 23:33 GMT

    Hey!!! another defeat 100+ runs or 5+ wicket for INDIA will be the suicide attack on their NO. 1, Position. Now the whole Indian support stop praying for INDIA (to perform well) they start praying for SA... "Please Please Please SA Perform like INDIA"

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    Highly overrated team. This is a wakeup call. Reality check. Lessons to be learned.

  • POSTED BY El_Toro_Loco on | December 8, 2013, 23:15 GMT

    @ gsingh7: Yeah Dhoni & Jadeja did score centuries in the game played on PS3 earlier. Yes india did fight until the last ball but unfortunately it was the last ball of 34th over. lol....

  • POSTED BY El_Toro_Loco on | December 8, 2013, 23:09 GMT

    @ Rajesh_india_1990: & entire indian batting line up is incapable to play cricket in Australia, England, SA & UAE. Hahaha

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 23:01 GMT

    dont give them any chance in the test series either. itll all be deja vu.

    just as well only 2 tests.

  • POSTED BY El_Toro_Loco on | December 8, 2013, 22:58 GMT

    @ gsingh7: Yes you're right this time, indian team is not mediocre it is less than mediocre. SA should send only Amla & Quinton to bat in the next game because that all they need to destroy the World Chump india. Ciao

  • POSTED BY mughal75 on | December 8, 2013, 22:58 GMT

    i thnk some one told indian team that they have to bat twice to get the SA score :P

  • POSTED BY vtomba on | December 8, 2013, 22:55 GMT

    well done SA keep it up the good work. Fake Indian boasting, good lesson

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 22:51 GMT

    Flat pitch champions real strength exposed

  • POSTED BY bhushanB on | December 8, 2013, 22:48 GMT

    @Rahul17_1983

    Its a world known fact that some fortunate ones (Rohit, Vijay, Jadeja, Ashwin, Raina, Mohit, RP, Ishant, Vinay,) have always enjoyed extended run/unconditional support

    And some not so fortunate ones like (Rahane Pujara Manoj Rayudu Ojha Bhuvi Mishra, Irfan) have waited for ages on the fringes, or not picked up even after scoring a century in the last match, or a 10 wicket haul in the last match, or always drafted in tricky/desperate situations and dispatched to the fringes after a failure or two...

    Sad, but thats the truth, that every ardent IND fan has to live with.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 22:47 GMT

    Oh no!! people again start blaming Indian batting line up ..!! Let me remind you .. same batting line won the CT 13 ..and that was in England !!!..so stop analysing on two performance

  • POSTED BY Capricorn60 on | December 8, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    Great opportunity for opposing fans to take joy from our poor showing to date against SA but never mind! We are a young team in transition, still been winning trophies when it matters like the ICC Champions Trophy this summer, have the IPL every year which attracts players from all other countries & we generate the most monies in the game - so no wonder some of these other fans take pleasure when we lose!

  • POSTED BY Notanideologue1 on | December 8, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    Bring back Sreesanth! Atleast bowling will be on safe hands...

  • POSTED BY Reverse-_-Sweep on | December 8, 2013, 22:44 GMT

    People say Indian team has the strongest batting and also deserve to no 1 odi team........ Lol. Just can't stop laughing at them.

  • POSTED BY Messa1 on | December 8, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    India's the most over-rated team ever. They think and try to show off they are the best, but this shows how crap they are when they play in proper pitches/grounds. Well done to SA

  • POSTED BY SivaSurapaneni on | December 8, 2013, 22:16 GMT

    Typically, a player is often played in the team either by his performance in the last few games (without considering where, what conditions and against what team) or by his reputation. Knowing the players technique and capabilities, It is not difficult to think in ODIs Pujara and Rahane can perform better outside the sub continent, Yuvaraj and Raina can perform better in the sub continent. It is perplexing to see Pujara's omission in ODI squad for SA tour.

  • POSTED BY _Cover_Drive on | December 8, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    It's difficult to win in SA when you bat second. These pitches aid bowling so well for the second innings that the batsmen can't handle the pressure. Dhoni repeated the mistake of batting first. SA have struggled to chase high scores on their pitches. Dhoni and Misbah are the most intelligent for their weak teams but some times they make the silliest mistakes.

  • POSTED BY sheru-sher on | December 8, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    Go SA go.....You are now the best cricket nation in the world.England is fading and Austrailia is weal. The discovery of De Kock is a bonus just like when Gildcrist arrived for Austrailia when they dominated .

  • POSTED BY my2centsonthis on | December 8, 2013, 22:02 GMT

    Indian batsmen need to take a different approach that will help them to restore their morale on non subcontinent pitches. To begin with, immaterial of the potential outcomes, they should only aim set a target of around 220- 250 and if chasing, not to plan winning targets of more than 250 but simply to play the 50 overs. After consistently achieving this for 2-3 series, they can aim to set higher targets or chase higher totals. Otherwise, with the kind of bowling we have, they will subject themselves to undue pressures and lose even the current skills (forget about honing them). you simply cannot turn around things in a hasty manner. They need to have an achievable realistic long term plan.

  • POSTED BY sheru-sher on | December 8, 2013, 21:53 GMT

    India should play all its cricket matches in India as there will be good crowd support and they will win all the matches. There will be no need for India to have fast bowlers as 4 spinners will do. The batsmen will flourish . In addition all cricket pitches should be made of concrete so that all the batting records will be broken by Indis. Not only should the DRS system be banned in India but also the D/L method and furthermore all matches in India should be presided by Indian umpires . IPL should be enlarged to 4 months instead of two and ICC should give BCCI a clear window in its Future tours schedule.

  • POSTED BY JustAnotherCricketFan on | December 8, 2013, 21:53 GMT

    I think most people are overlooking what MSD has said in the interviews, that the schedule has been so shit that they dont get enough breathing space to a) recupperate and b)get acclimated to the conditions and pitch.

    So this one day series effectively becomes a practice match for test series.

    Keeping that in mind, they have done well to improve from match 1 to 2, which was missing from the indian test squad that plummeted so quickly from no. 1 spot

  • POSTED BY Kirk_Levin on | December 8, 2013, 21:45 GMT

    India should give refunds to all those who are coming to watch they play. So much for being the best team and batsman's in the world. Ordinary side

  • POSTED BY kc69 on | December 8, 2013, 21:43 GMT

    Well it must be admitted that India is playing bad cricket.Looks quite a case of complacency that got into indian batsmen playing on batsmen friendly track and giving no value to bowlers in a match.there is always the need of an effective bowling lineup to win matches.However there is a hope that this thrashing would give BCCI some realization of having a good bowling in a team to be the best.

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | December 8, 2013, 21:30 GMT

    It's a wonder someone hasn't mentioned that India might be a little scared of the quick bowling. Wait, hasn't someone already done so?

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    Well they said they have the best batting order, n they forgot to say they that they were talking about ranji trophy...

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    everybody knew this will happen ,imagine what will happen in test series.BCCI did great job by shortening the tour.bowling looks like school level.India no 1 in odi ranking myfoot

  • POSTED BY Tweety20 on | December 8, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    I was waiting for this tour to commence to see whether India is truly the no.1 side as everyone claims esp. the Indian fans. Well, its pretty clear that they are only 'good' at home not anywhere else. Otherwise, how can u explain a team that chased 350+ in India lose in SA without even reaching 250 or 150,clearly shows the difference. To Indian fans, worry about your team before criticizing others.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    Come on India. You should stop playing cricket in quality pitch like South Africa, England or Australia. Better you play in Asian subcontinent or only in Zimbabwe. Keep just keep in mind that there is A HUGE difference your background cricket and quality cricket. R.I.P Indian bowling, now batting as well.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 21:03 GMT

    Despite the fact that Indian batting fails everytime on slow tracks .. Batsmen like Dhoni, Raina and Jadeja have continuously performed well. I second the idea of Indian commentator Ravi Shastri that Dhoni should bring himself earlier in the batting order like 3 .. Sharma should come down and Pujara shall be given a chance on such slow tracks while Kohli shall open (Rahane is good for quick wickets). I suggest, 1. Dhawan 2. Kohli 3. Pujara 4. Dhoni 5. Raina 6. Sharma 7 Jadeja 8 Ashwin and bowlers

  • POSTED BY yorkslanka on | December 8, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    @thebigboodha- well said sir,absolutely agree with you 100%...

  • POSTED BY Gaswell on | December 8, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    Nice to see India exposed for what they are. A team pampered by a powerful board that mercilessly bullies all other nations whilst creating home conditions that mean India can rarely be beaten at home. This all gets exposed the minute they leave India. The Indian team have so much talent. If the Board were less corrupt and more visionary they would create varying conditions at home which would maximise the chances of the Indian team actually dominating world cricket on match results and not just economics. Australia dominated because each ground , domestically had very different characteristics which meant that Australian players were better prepared when they went overseas as they were used to adapting to different conditions.

    It should also be illegal to produce "dead" tracks. Draws and dull matches dominated by the bat are killing test cricket. Grounds and staff should be heavily fined for producing such wickets. Cricket would be the winner for once , instead of the BCCI.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    Indian batsman are huge appointment. thogh i knew it will be difficult for them against the bounce and pace of steyn but looking lifeless and scared against the short pitched deliveries is the big worry . They need to find their way of dealing with short pitched balls, if u can't play them then better to leave them alone like most good batsman do it. Butgetting scared is for school boys , they need to grow up and show some courage. selection of raina and yuvrag is a waste , they should get someone like pujara who is technical sound

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:35 GMT

    I expected nothing great from Indian bowling but batting failing like that in second match is very disappointing. I thought India would win the ODI series easily, boy I was dead wrong. I don't see them winning test matches or even drawing a test match with this performance. Good luck to both teams!

  • POSTED BY theRule19 on | December 8, 2013, 20:34 GMT

    Pathetic batting display by the Indians..only positive they can take from this game is their restrictive bowling in the middle overs of SA innings..Very bad opening and death bowling..followed by clueless and careless batting. Full credit to SA though..for the way they bowled. Batting was never a challenge against this Indian bowling. For India; really they need to come up with aggressive game and mindset in the remaining games followed by decent technique to score runs freely and not get bogged down by quality seam bowling. If they dont..they would be well and truly looking at another humiliation outside India..and their pathetic run abroad would continue.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    between some of my countrymen are disparaging indian bowling attack rating them club level. well thanks for pointing out the obvious. But same goes to our batting as well (being fair).therefore i think, until and unless we sort out our batting unit. we are in no position to denigrate others.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    thats why whole world doubts india's world cup victory (BCCI actually buy whole tournament (the world cup 2011) for their little mastr)

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    Depressing - time to recall Sachin from retirement ! India in SA around 2010 and scores of 146 and 111 etc are still fresh in our mind !

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    We All knew That Indian bowling is too Weak... and now We get to Know the Same thing about Their batting too..

  • POSTED BY Wacky_Cric_Lover on | December 8, 2013, 20:23 GMT

    Keeping in view the worst indian batting performance of the year, I think ICC should revise their ranking system. They should bring into the equation the home and away factor. Clearly this indian batting side is so weak outside subcontinent. The only ray of hope is kohli and dhoni. Rest of the pack is useless, at best. Their bowlers cant even bowl in bowling friendly conditions. Now I am realising how good were the players like Dravid, Tendulkar and Laxman.

  • POSTED BY jb633 on | December 8, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    @Kashi0127, glad to hear an Indian fan talking some sense. I told a couple of fans to be careful about saying that India to win 2015 was a foregone conclusion after they chased 350 against Oz at home. The truth of the matter is that in England the pitches were dry and turned remarkably all summer. The pitches were Indian like and not typical of English wickets due to a very dry summer. They have yet to face their demons on seaming and bouncy decks and once again they are falling well short. It is no easy feat to admit your side's weakness but I have had to admit that my side (England) cannot cope with Johnson and our win in the home ashes was due to the fact we played on wickets suiting our style of play. Similarly Australian pitches suit their own side and South African will suit their players. World cricket is being dominated by the home side at the moment and only SA are proving their worth with their incredible away record. The other teams need to look in the mirror long and hard

  • POSTED BY hb1970 on | December 8, 2013, 20:17 GMT

    Two thumping losses for world no.1 and world champion. India did not play even like a world no.2 or 3. Shame.

  • POSTED BY sharadgargconnect on | December 8, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    I think India should play in India. ha ha. They can play in India only. They can win world cup in India only. I bet they cannot win world cup abroad in 100 more years. ha ha

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    Totally Smashed the Indian team .. the reason is obvious unfamiliar of conditions. I thought V.K would quickly adjust to conditions he has great record in recent years but that he also failed.. so India should be mentally ready for upcoming days this is going to be really tough tour for them.

  • POSTED BY satkaru1 on | December 8, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    Dhoni and his Pet team (no one to threaten his captaincy) will fail .... I am intrigued as to why Dhoni left Gambhir Out... Gambhir - Top Scorer in T20 Championship and Top Scorer in WorldCup.. Dhoni's laurels are all what team did.. he had a super team at hand.. now he is breaking that... Playing on flat wickets..all players need is managements backing... Dhoni stop playing for politics and play for India... it is gut wrenching for you to put the great nation of India to such unbelievable lows.. we dont deserve this get Gambhir & Shehwag on board rigth now....

  • POSTED BY vishtej on | December 8, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    Pathetic performance by Team India. It's okay even if the team loses but the way with which it lost both its matches is disappointing. If this is how the team performs overseas, we would be kicked out from the group stage of the next World Cup. Bowling is toothless. Even in SA conditions, Jadeja is the one who is bowling economically. Coming to batting, our top 3 were in terrific form before this series and now they are completely exposed. Now that the series is lost, it would be a major achievement even if India gives a fight in the last ODI.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    @just_chill_chill :No shame whatsoever in losing to SA...Are you kidding? Champs getting crushed by a team who has got new players..A team who is still experimenting & trying to get their squad right..Getting defeated by 141 & 134 seems no big deal to you?Allowing the opponent to go for 150+ runs opening partnerships back to back seems like no big deal? SA just did not win...They crushed the Champs..This win was not just win.It was something else. PS:Btw what's the difference between Minnows & India? The difference is that Indian team is World Champ..Other than that,there's no difference between them after watching 2 ODI's...Low ranked teams gets defeated like that by a huge margin & so convincingly.Team India was no different..Indian batting so exposed..During last couple of months,Indian team has been relying mostly on top 3 batsmen Dhawan,Rohit Sharma & Kohli..When these 3 failed,others could not save the team from heavy defeat.In middle order there's only Dhoni & that's it

  • POSTED BY sharadgargconnect on | December 8, 2013, 19:59 GMT

    I am sure India are no4 team in odi. rankings will change. these teams are still the best teams. the correct ranking should be 1. Australia 2. SAfrica 3. Pakistan 4. India 5 England 6 New Zealand and rest to follow.. SA are already no1 in tests and far ahead of all teams. I bet SA will win test series against india 2-0

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:58 GMT

    One of my friends gave a status today- " Feeling sad for Star Sports !!! They wont get any Highlights show from SA vs INDIA series " :v

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    I think apart from batting India should search for bowlers to use in bouncy conditions their batting is good enough.just need to more prectice on non.subcontinent conditions.... Misbah 11 has only advantage that their bowlers can perform in any conditions we have good spinners for turning pitches and good pace bowlers for bouncy pitches bye the way best of luck for both teams for the rest of series.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    ICC PLEASE change the Ranking system , ranking should be done on the basis of matches played at home and abroad, If India had to play all the matches abroad as pakistan did in last few years they would been at number 8, how comes a team can be number 1 after winning all matches on flat tracks and smaller grounds and playing abroad like club crcikters.

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 8, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    People here are saying India are good only on subcontinental pitches. India even lost at their home against quality bowling attack of Pakistan last year. They can't even win at home if opposition is good and there is slight help for bowlers. Australia beat them on pitches which had something in them for bowlers like Pune and Mohali. They are afraid to have bilateral series with Pakistan in UAE because they know Pakistan bowling is too good for them. I don't get it how are they no. 1 side in ODIs?

  • POSTED BY diehardINDIANcricketfan on | December 8, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    its very easy to keep your wicket in hand like misbah. the main point is whether that inning turns out to be a match winning performance. you can very well check the record of this year that how many of his fifties have resulted in win. I am not criticizing his technique. he is the lone survivor many a times but what is the point in this way of batting. even rohit sharma could have kept his wicket but that would also have resulted in a loss result. you have to play according to the situation, India succumb to it but they are very strong as a team. They will come back strongly.. time will tell.. PEACE,..

  • POSTED BY tirchi_topi on | December 8, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    Our batting is the best . Sachin, Dravid, Laxman , Kohli, Rohit , Dhawan, Sir Jadeja Capt. Dhoni , Ashwin...

    All Best. Team India Best. We will beat everyone to a pulp. ( conditions apply. See below for details )

    Conditions : wicket must not offer any assistance to any bowler. Bowlers are not allowed to faster than 120km/h and should never rise more than the height of the wicket. Only Steven Smith should be allowed to bowl spin . Boundaries should be small .

  • POSTED BY Vivfan on | December 8, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    @gsingh7. This is your answer to who is really the worlds flat track bullies in cricket. TEAM INDIA! TEAM INDIA!

    "Bring Yadav in and bring Rahane in" !! What happened, Yadav got pummeled went 7.5 an over, Rahane gone for 8. Unfortunately there aren't any other players to bring for your 'fantasy XI' but Pujara. He will perform poorly as well, no batsman can play outside flat tracks.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    @just_chill_chill:As if India never lost to Zimbabwe..Just because their last tour was 5-0..it does not mean that India was always winning from Zimbabwe.India lost not once or twice...10 times to Zimbabwe lol...That must be a record Hahaha.. & you talk about test matches..I don't need to tell how many times India was defeated by Zimbabwe in 'TEST' matches..So don't go that path which shows how many times India has been defeated by Minnows..If pak loses to such low ranked teams,India is no different.So let's forget the past & talk about the current match..

  • POSTED BY deshwani on | December 8, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    Now whole world have been well known about techniques of indian batters as they couldnt face quality bowling even against friendly pitches!! Like they did against Pakistan even in home grounds!! They only can play on flat pitches and against worst bowling... even Bilawal Bhatti and Anwar Ali having a good techniques than Indian batters as they smashed to SA bowler including Steyn. I dont know why India is top team based on home performances! Very poor rating of ICC.. i am searching an indian fan who was talking about small grounds in SA. That small ground where any single indian batter could not reach 36+ score! SA will retain this with shamful whitewhash for mistakenly top team of the world

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:46 GMT

    Too early to over react--the Indians have only played 2 odi's so are clearly not acclimatised.Its much harder to adjust to higher bouncing wickets than lower ones for batsmen.Yadav looked short of a gallop and Ishant was quite good whilst Shami is the stand out.Guys like Dhawan and Raina cant just stand and throw the bat on ball in these conditions since the higher bounce will result in catches on the offside slip/point/gulley areas.India should have batted first today and will have to find their best combinations quickly or it will be a tough tour.

  • POSTED BY anuprakir on | December 8, 2013, 19:46 GMT

    This is the real strenghth of Indian bowling and batting for you.I am sure Banladesh would have performed well.History repeats time and again and I don't see any improvement in near future as BCCI and players are only interested in making money through IPL and winning on flat dead home tracks.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    This is the thing I was worried about these flat track bullies will be exposed on bouncy and moving tracks

  • POSTED BY tirchi_topi on | December 8, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    This is not fair. SA made green wickets even though BCCI got a promise out of them not to do ! They know our batsmen can't play short bowling or swing and seam but they keep on bowling just that. Not fair. SA should know that by doing so our rankings will go down and our fans won't watch us and thus BCCI wont make as much money and SA will suffer as a result. We should ban any bowler who can swing ,seam,swing or spin a ball from bowling to our batsmen. When S.A come here, we are going to see how they fare against pin bowling. Thats true test of a man according to Sunil Gavskar . Remember what happened to England when they came over. We took revenge for the 4-0 drubbing by shaming them and winning a test match in a 2-1 loss. We showed them who was boss.

    We should get low turning pitches because we need to see Team India scoring double hundreds. Anything else is not fair as Ravi Sastri points out. How can they make pitches to suit themselves ? Thats absolute crap.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:39 GMT

    Proper thrashing in 2 consecutive matches. Series lost. India outplayed totally; no excuses.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    So i hope now all Indian fans would be satisfied..They got what they wanted..Yadav,Ishant & Rahane played today..Still India's performance got even worse ..So what's next..Change the whole team or what??? Wondering what would Fans want now :)

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 8, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    I guess BCCI knew what throbbing their team would get from the hands of SA... Therefore they have cut this series short so that they may have an excuse that due to time constraint their team could perform well...

  • POSTED BY alipk52 on | December 8, 2013, 19:35 GMT

    look at this number 1 team: at 35.1 overs, South Africa lost its 1st wicket, and in 35.1 overs India lost their last wicket...wow what a no.1 team we are looking at, ohh yes, Indian batsman faced quality bowling lineup at home just once this year early on, they found wanting that time as well, is this is the reason why India plays very very fewer series against quality bowling? and South Africa not even once for quite a while at home, Sri Lanka is the best Asian team right now, Pakistan 2nd best, Bangladesh 3rd, Pakistani fans saw lots of comments coming against them, but world have seen who is the best Asian team out of 4. They bamboozled Indian batting at the venues where they are thinking themselves superior, way to go SA! You beauty!

  • POSTED BY ICCexpert.... on | December 8, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    BCCI should order ICC that they should take indian piitches with them and should be allowed to bat on them around the world. Because players like Kohli, Rohit, Riana and Jadeja can play only on dead tracks.

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | December 8, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    Someone was attributing India's poor performance to the lack of match practices in SA and the grueling schedule etc. PAK went to SA after playing back to back matches in UAE and even with not much time to adjust to the new conditions, they performed much better! There is no excuse for getting exposed for your weaknesses!

  • POSTED BY Blade-Runner on | December 8, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    India must be the most undeserving team ever to take the no.1 position in the ICC ODI rankings. They took the top position by playing matches at home on their tailor-made flat decks. Now they've been exposed here.

  • POSTED BY Lallubhai on | December 8, 2013, 19:32 GMT

    Everyone wants to play India , India are in demand so much that they only manage a couple of days to acclimatise to the foreign conditions.Look how much' UP' South Africa are against India compared to when they played pakistan.They didnt provide pitches to suit them against pakistan like they have with India .They are showing serious passion to try and beat India , thats a compliment to India .Nobody really wants to play pakistan and they get invited by teams like ZIM & AFGHN to play .Playing against pakistan is insignificant to all teams and they only get to play in the leftover scraps India leaves behind.In 10 -15 years time India with all its money and power will dominate cricket.

  • POSTED BY khurramsch on | December 8, 2013, 19:31 GMT

    It isnt simple that india lost to SA. it is a no1 team lost to a 5th ranked team. some people are comparing pakistan here. pakistan lost the series in SA earlier in the year by 3-2 and it went to final odi. in UAE SA won 4-1 but if you have seen it , games were very much close. and pakistan won a series in SA just week ago. pakistan's batting is poor and well known fact. but what is more disappointing? A team packed with batsmen with good averages & Strike rates and known for chasing 300+ very recently? Or a team with most players having avg in 30s and known fact that they cant even score 300? india's record in SA in odis is very poor.

    india's batsmen were suppose to do bad in these conditions. but not that bad. the disappointing thing was bowlers getting hammered. if fast bowlers can not perform on these type of pitches then where will they perform.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:30 GMT

    You deny a test playing nation in IPL, and then expect to go places beating top sides? Wishful thinking

  • POSTED BY reason-galore on | December 8, 2013, 19:28 GMT

    there are a few facts to realize over here

    1. Pakistans bowling>>> india

    2. everyone is a champ on indian wickets while only south africans are champs on south african wickets.

    Indian wickets are easy for everyone(australia's weak lineup matched them in almost every game). Indian circket is about heavenly flat wickets(india has the highest scoring pitches which means the easiest to play on in the world) and bad bowling combined = substandard cricket and euphoria for batsmen.

    There is a reason india do not dominate pakistan that much on its own wickets, because they know those wickets. Indian batting will never be good on foriegn wickets as indian board is all about money and this in turns limits their batsmen as they only play on easy wickets alone. If i make a top team in the world then i would choose the top3 of the indian batsmen and also dhoni in my team as they are good when it comes to talent. But they are limited in the capabilities due to not playing abroad much.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    today indian bowlers showed some spirit but batsmen let them down.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:25 GMT

    One of my friends gave a status tonight-" Feeling sad for Star Sports !!! They wont get any Highlights show from SA vs INDIA series " :v

  • POSTED BY Naresh28 on | December 8, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    WELL DONE SA!!! Teams graft for victory by working in partnerships. India has erred by not selecting Pujara for holding the top four together. He is the ideal no 4. Dhawan needs to learn otherwise he will go the SHewag way. Rohit is ok we cannot have a situation where one quick wicket affects the others coming in. And for heavens sake INDIA need tall batsman for overseas batting not the short Rahane type. We will keep getting bounced or short players always reaching for the balls. Foot movement is just not there.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:23 GMT

    Its not the name neither the ranking, for wins; one have to battle ball by ball, Pkaistani Eagles have shown it on this very soil.. With no batting kings, no big names both in batting or bowling, still they fought ball by ball. Even they were coming straight from a 4-1 defeat in ODIs managed to write the history by becoming the first ones to get a series win against protease on their soil.

  • POSTED BY r0ketman on | December 8, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    @Dravid_Sachin_Gravitas_Atheist: What happened to your prediction about India winning both the ODI and test series before the humiliation began? And why the back handed compliment to SA? Today's pitch was not a grass bowl, it was slower and low. Yet India failed miserably. This is the third overseas bilateral series in a row, where India will lose probably every match they play. The fact is, India is a just a flat track bully. Majority of their overseas wins (which is only a few) were lucky, And as far as beating india in India, didn't SA beat them the last time these two teams played an ODI in India, by bowling out the last 9 Indian batsmen for less than 30 runs?

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    Seeing the performance India should demand ICC that they r ok to bowl on South African pitches however they will bat on Indian Pitches....... :)

  • POSTED BY unbiased_referee on | December 8, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    Ever since 1990s, each IND tour of SA has been the graveyard for IND cricket except that solitary T20 World Cup victory handed to them by Misbah! Dhoni is hailed as Captain Cool, but his head seems to freeze all too quick in all ENG, AUS and SA summers!! Batting being supposedly the main strength IND possesses, why did Dhoni elect to field first knowing how easily SA get choked chasing even modest of the totals worldwide including on their home soil? Furthermore, how can the proven dead pitch warriors such as Dhawan and Rohit be picked only opening pair ignoring Gambhir and Sehwag? Certainly IND selectors are as incompetent as their captain and players when it comes to series away from home.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | December 8, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    Dhoni's decision to field first in both the ODIs may seem foolish in hindsight but there was nothing wrong in that actually. Firstly, he was backing his team's ability to be good chasers. Secondly, he was hopeful that his bowlers would make use of the helpful conditions to restrict SA to manageable totals & then India would bat when it would be slightly easier. Thirdly, why would he want to bat first in tough conditions against Steyn & co not knowing how much would be enough? But the bowling so poor in both the matches that the SA put on 150+ openings stands both the times & put up very good totals each time. After this, it was always going to be tough for them to chase a total that was way more than they would have hoped for.

    I am one of the many who are unimpressed by the attitude of Ishant Sharma. That man got the thrashing of his life a few ODIs back but he still seems more worried about his hairy length. Even today, Zak, Nehra & Agarkar would do better than him.

  • POSTED BY iceaxe on | December 8, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    One would have expected this series to be closely contested. After all, we do have two of the best teams in the world. However, India haven't even been in the contest. One wonders how you can be so highly rated in your own country but perform so feebly outside it. Not the marks of a world beating team.

  • POSTED BY mzm149 on | December 8, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    Unlucky Rohit Sharma missed a double century by mere 181 runs. It's unfair that Indians were not allowed to bring pitches along with them. Otherwise Dhawan and Kohli never score less than a century.

  • POSTED BY Crickeee on | December 8, 2013, 19:01 GMT

    How difficult it is to understand that these Indian batsmen only play good on their own dead pitches and against the average balling lineups, like West Indies and Bangladesh. In front of quality balling like South Africa and Pakistan, they hardly perform well. In fact, Pakistan beat the same batting line up in India on their dead pitches. So its their incapability of playing good balling sides. That opens up the debate for the whole Indian team. Now they should make good cricket pitches in India so the new talent should learn the global cricket rather then just the Indian cricket. I am sure the new talent of Indian batting will adopt the change well.

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 8, 2013, 18:58 GMT

    Dharwan played the same reckless shot in the first ODI. Realised he was struggling with this SA attack, so he decided to get out instead of fighting. Sharma looked clueless again, how on earth do these guys get averages over 50!!!??

    I am still waiting to be impressed with Kohli and I have heard thousands of his fans telling me how great he is - maybe I need to buy a ticket to India and watch him on his home tracks.

    Criticism aside, it has nothing to do with poor preparation but everything to do with ensuring that there is at least 1 bouncier and faster pitch for fast bowlers to develop in India and for batsmen to sharpen their skills.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 8, 2013, 18:56 GMT

    @ Atif Murtaza is of the opinion that "had this been a 5 or 7 one day series, i think the ranking of indian team and players would have got a drastic beating."

    1. The rankings of the team and players are already getting a drastic beating.

    2 The rankings of the team and players were artificially inflated when the SA series was so abruptly shortened so that India could hammer a weak opponent at home! Were it not for that, their rankings would not have been so high anyway, and so would not have taken as big a beating.

    3. I have a sneaking suspicion that India might be in for a New Zealand surprise - be prepared for those rankings get another beating.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Team India is actually showing solidarity with South Africans and this is their way of paying homage to Madiba! Please don't blame Team India for the 2nd massive defeat by over 100 runs.

  • POSTED BY IAS2009 on | December 8, 2013, 18:52 GMT

    the results are not surprising, the past results of India playing abroad is out in open, as some one has posted earlier, with the exception of Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid and Laxman India never had played well abroad and those 4 of Indian Batsmen did a long time ago also, it is not easy to play in SA. There is nothing wrong with Indian player, these are new batsmen learning to play out of their comfort zone, the Indian media has hyped them as world class players already even most of them have hardly played in tough conditions. beating a second rate WI and Aussies with none of their regular bowlers in ODI series in India is easy, in SA, the game is over in first 15 overs in both ODIs when India was batting. This is on pretty good batting wicket, in tests it will be a lot harder, we are looking at 3 day test match results. this batting lineup can not survive Steyn, Morkel and Philander long. I like to see how Kohli do here, he has bragged about his technique a lot in India, see what happens.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:51 GMT

    this proves misbah far more better player than kohli...

  • POSTED BY jingopack on | December 8, 2013, 18:49 GMT

    this clearly shows our batsmen are overrated.....we look at kohli, rohit as talented,,,world class...but have a look at players like AB deviliers.....he can demolish pace, spin alike under all sorts of conditions...we should attach the tag world class to them....he might not have scored a double hundred in odi but he plays mostly in these lively pitches and maintains that average....equally good and dangerous in subcontinent as well as in lightning quick pitches...instead of acknowledging this fact we always want to beleive indian batsman are great

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    I agree with Prabhash 1985. Cricket is not all the winning only. There are losings as well, thats the name of the game. The only wise thing is to sit together and analyze honestly what went wrong. It was but natural that SA would prepare fast pitches conducive to their fast bowlers. What India was proud of their confident top orders has shaken a little. It is just the opposite that was witnessed. SA opening pair have twice laid foundation for big total.

    I do not think, Indian team practiced hard how to batter the fast bowling before landing in SA.

  • POSTED BY sharadgargconnect on | December 8, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    I think india deserves no4 or no5 spot in odi rankings. indians will loose 3-0 in SA, will loose 3-2 or 4-1 in NZ if NZ use common sense and bat well. Nz is an idiot game plan unit. they have world beaters in BBmcullum, Ross taylor, Southee, Mcclaghnan, Rob nicol, boult and james franklin. still they come up with sub standard odi players like Ellis, devcich, Mills, Ronchi, Anderson and Neesham. NZ should also prepare fast tracks and green wickets with seam movement where batsman cannot score sixes. Indian batting is likely to get exposed in SA and NZ. If NZ play main team and bat seriously i bet india will loose 3-2 or 4-1 in NZ also.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:42 GMT

    dhoni doesnt have the ability to read the bowlers,ashwin is out of form but he doesn't feel so, mishra is a wkt taker he shld e hv given him chance,he wld bcoz change the situation dhoni trust his spinners a lot which he did in today's match in the middle of the inning he shld hv attacked to get wkts but he didnt do that he took fast bowlers but d they didnt bowl there quota of ovrs

  • POSTED BY Kirk_Levin on | December 8, 2013, 18:40 GMT

    lol, i enjoy reading comments from indian fans. they find excuses, support average players, always hoping for more. but they don't realize, how awful their team is.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    afghanistan team managed 137 in 20 overs and did not get all out against pakistan. india made 147 all out; may be india plans a tour to afghanistan to better their rating

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 8, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    @ Tornado1 writes "But don't worry guys back at home, we can destroy even Steyn and Morkel, Just give us those double century wickets :)"

    [Psssst - Tornado1. Dale Steyn, 2010, Nagpur, India. 7 for 51 on a double century wicket. (The double was by Amla - he did not have to face Steyn!)] Six or seven seasons of IPL and some of these guys are really beginning to feel at home & have learned how to adjust to Indian tracks. Maybe with the elections next year the IPL should go back to SA - so that the Indian players get some practice on live pitches!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    indian team only win in India and Indian batsman only runs in dead wickets so I hope that Indian team banned in playing overseas

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    Here is the real cricket.... Lets admit it.. Dhoni has lost his charisma.. Where his captaincy, where was the fight... Even a buffoon can make bowlers ball , but it is how u make them bowl.. Having 3 fast bowlers n making raina complete quota of overs... Indian Board should consider major re-shuffling in the side.. It is time to bring Kohli Upfront

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    34 years of dedicated following of cricket,barring a few countable occassions,team India,as they call it nowdays,has never performed contrary to my expectations;expections of it doing badly overseas.sort of a personal triumph as an avid fan knowing the limitations of his team.But what a pity!Good teams faulter too on our spinning tracks but seldom they surrender so meekly or the margin of victory is so huge.Hope in the next 34 years of watching cricket,if I am allowed by the almighty to do so,my expectations take a beating.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    dont you people feel dhonis captaincy is defensive vch is the reason behind the loses

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Don't forget India recently won the Champions Trophy in England, and the tri series in the West Indies.

    In the past in South Africa, India won the 20-20 Cricket World Cup, and reached the final of the 50 overs Cricket World Cup.

    So India have also played well overseas.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:31 GMT

    We Indian fans deserve a better fight by their team..Sans spoiling a sunday, this match has nt done any good. Watched the SA Vs Pak 2nd ODI match highlights and felt some solace...Who said Indian batsmen are good? IF then,they need to learn a lot from the Way Pak batsmen played in SA in te recent series last month and learn something !!!!!

  • POSTED BY fayyaz03 on | December 8, 2013, 18:31 GMT

    These heavy defeats are the results of India's own poor approach to the game. Everyone is responsible. When they were posting 350s against Australia couple of weeks ago, I was just laughing. Because that was the start of self destruction by their management. Rather than using the opportunity to play some competitive cricket against good Aussie fast bowlers, they made the wickets pretty flat for the sake of entertainment on the expense of cricket. Now the time is getting the better off them. They did not learn a single leaf out of the book that was created in their tours of England and Australia. The bell was rung again when Pakistan beat them at their home grounds. But seems like the board prefers money and glamour over cricket and fans. But now the breeze is turning into hurricane.

  • POSTED BY mars2009 on | December 8, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    Indian should not play matches in that part of year, last year they lost series against Pakistan same part of the year. Secondly India should not go abroad, if any time want to contest them they must come to India.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:29 GMT

    Few days ago I had mentioned that India is far better batting team than Pakistan in South Africa but in such a series they showed no resilience to SA. Pakistan on the other hand was able to win the series from SA by the virtue of bowling quality of Pakistan. India should work over their bowling line up batting will click but in such short series it is a far cry

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    Another humiliation and annihilation of India. Whitewash is now inevitable. This also shows class of Great Pakistan that overwhelmingly beat and won series against now mighty looking SA. While over rated India looks in total dismay.

  • POSTED BY sashi94 on | December 8, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    Congratulations South Africa! You are the new world champions! You have won two one day matches and after choking against Pakistan the other day. I like that the Indians are a worthless team after two poor showings. Don't tell me de kock is more technically sound than the Rohits and Virats. Kepler weasel commentary is also hilarious. When India loses he says they can't play the pace and the bounce and their bowling is not capable. But if they win, he will say the conditions were more suited to the Indians. The pitch was dry and outfield was fast.. We know how this all works.. Enjoy the two match victory and congrats again for becoming the fastest to get the "world championship!"

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    The most amazing thing was that there was nothing in the pitch except some spin today. It should not have been a mountain to climb for the indians but I think they are so much used to playing at home that even the name of playing away is sufficient to thrash them.

  • POSTED BY Sabbir007 on | December 8, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    Umesh Yadav batted leaving his 3 stumps alone! That's is the sign of bravery (?) of Indian batsmen to face the pace and bounce of SA fast bowlers!!! The so called sweet home team remind ICC again to think about their ranking system.

  • POSTED BY Mekkayel on | December 8, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    India looked just like west Indies did at their home last month. Only serves to prove that India is only at their best at home. Get some quality pace bowlers and batsmen that don't rely on slow dead pitches and you have a good team

  • POSTED BY GreenBouncySpin on | December 8, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    I had been arguing, fighting, reasoning so many times for so long that this Indian team is super strong in ODI format and the new league of batsmen are world class. But I couldn't have been more wrong. This humble pie tastes very bad indeed. My biggest worry is not how cluelessly we are capitulating in this series, but how can we improve going forward? One can suggest a simple logic - groom fast bowlers and prepare few bouncy fast tracks in India from grass root level etc. But everyone knows that is not going to happen given the fact that it never happened before. So yes - I don't know what's the way out. I don't know when can this flat track bullies (I never said this of our players before - even during England & Australia test washouts) come to reality and realize the only way to improve is to ACCEPT that we aren't good outside our den.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    This doesn't come up as a surprise, we all know how Indian Batsman face Serious fast bowling :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    India is only good at indian soil. 1st ODI South Africa won by 142 runs. 2nd ODI South Africa won by 134 runs. Yes India you can only win at home. So don't cry!! Go back home & play #Ranji #Trophy

  • POSTED BY proteasfire on | December 8, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    Well done team South Africa!! Atlast they found the right combination to provide consistent results in ODI cricket. These set of players should get a fairly long run to make SA more stronger. One thing SA would be focussing on is how they chase targets in excess of 220. Thats been a problem for the team in the recent past and with Amla and DeKock providing strong starts middle order should make use of it and start delivering results both while defending and chasing. Bowling unit is top class and doesnt need any alteration unless they want to bring in Tahir on spin friendly conditions. This win is a great morale booster and SA will get only better in future. Go Proteas Go! Be Ruthless!! Congrats South Africa!! #happycamper

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | December 8, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    although sa have won series but it was good that indian team know their task in all important test series. nobody will remember these meaningless odis but if team india wins test series then they will be the first and only team in the world to beat sa in sa . hope dhoni and co get ready for the task and prepare well for tests.

  • POSTED BY TmyKhn on | December 8, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    Come on Indian fans, you know what Indian team is capable of doing! They can play some cricket on their own backyard only on the substandard dead Indian pitches. But if its a sporting wicket, Indian players like Kohli, Rayna are no good than the ordinary street players. Take some advice; never play your team abroad and only then you can win some matches. I think India can't even beat Afganistan or Nepal in their own ground. So wake up...

  • POSTED BY SMAB on | December 8, 2013, 18:08 GMT

    Must say....seeing the way Protease have hammered MSD's dead-pitch champ boys, all fans of Misbah's eleven must be feeling very proud of Pakistan's recent performance at fast South African pitches :)

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:07 GMT

    Its not soil to soil issue... Fact is that Foreign batsman perform not only their own countries but also in India and other foreign countries but Indian batsman can't able to perform... When you look on Pakistan their strength always be bowling which perform every time in anywhere in the world.. Then why Indian batting fail if you claim you have best batting line up???

  • POSTED BY Protears on | December 8, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Experience and Mentality, most of the Indian team is first timers to South African conditions, feats that even the greatest of Indians have found tough to be successful on but experience can be gained over time. The mental side is something that doesn't change, the Indians always come with a sense of trepidation whether veteran or new player and that give us the edge and is the reason why India have tasted very little success on conditions that are the fairest.

    On paper India were potent, the pundits gave us no chance to stop the Indian machine, the net result is back to back 100+ run victories in seemingly effortless displays. While India can only improve there will be concern. The root to India failures abroad lies in tailoring slow tracks with low bounce for limited overs games and dust patches with fast and variable bounce in the extended game, my best example of tailoring pitches is Arshwin. 95 wickets in India in 15 games, 9 in 3 games abroad.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 18:00 GMT

    Raped...This is what happens when Pakistan's bowling or Indian's Batting fails.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    i think this is best chance to draft pujara into odi he will bat at all 50 overs and stick on the wicket. see how was SA when they played Pakistan they were on verge of white wash but see how India is playing the number 1 odi ranked team on verge of a Indian whitewash. every indian fan is ashamed of how Indian team has performed...

  • POSTED BY Naeem578 on | December 8, 2013, 17:49 GMT

    Ha ha ha, this so called champ batting line up is failed so miserably that according to some fans weak batting line up of Pakistan was playing much better against the very same opposition in very same conditions.At least they managed 150 plus runs every time they played against the Saffas. Plus the quality of contest between Pak n S.A was a treat to watch but right now its nothing like contest realy.

  • POSTED BY just_chill_chill on | December 8, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    @Feroz.hassan.25 maybe you were not watching cricket being played in Zimbabwe. India won 5-0 and Pakistan got humiliated game after game by the mighty ZIMBABWE in test and one day matches. No shame whatsoever in losing to SA.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:45 GMT

    Rip Indian bowling nd now batting

  • POSTED BY Silverbails on | December 8, 2013, 17:37 GMT

    Another appalling hammering for the so - called No. ODI Team in the World!! This does not bode well for the upcoming Test Series. This proves yet - again how poor travellers the Indians are. This, along with Australia, is STILL one of the two last frontiers for India. They have STILL to win a Test Series here, and this ODI heavy defeat is an extremely bad omen!! Anyway, let's hope for a dramatic improvement in the matches to come, although I really do fear that the die has been cast for the rest of the series to come…let's hope not, but they've started very poorly, as always...

  • POSTED BY RameshRayaprolu on | December 8, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    nice ...always expected this...I only wished that India's so called "quality" batsmen would have shown some fight, meaning, at least be at 90/3 or 90/4 playing full quota of overs...then I would have believed that this young team is actually no #1.

    But sorry to say MSD, this team is only good at their back yard...no where else.. as of now, its just the beggining...worst is yet to come :) :) !!

  • POSTED BY Happy_hamster on | December 8, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    Surely India should not have to play away from home now they have the most money and therefore power, there are more Indian fans than all the rest put together so it is not democratic to not play in India plain unfair.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    had this been a 5 or 7 one day series, i think the ranking of indian team and players would have got a drastic beating

  • POSTED BY Iceman29 on | December 8, 2013, 17:21 GMT

    As a die hard cricket follower and supporter of Indian team I feel let down and betrayed as a fan. The most humiliating thing is the manner in which this Ind team has surrendered their defeat. This shows their lack of application and no patriotism for their country. When you are number one team people expect you to play accrordingly, it doesnt matter if you win or loose, atleast there should be a contest.This looks like an International team is playing with school boys.....So now I know how much these guys have prepared after the Aus and Eng debacle last year..These guys never gonna learn no matter how much they are humiliated and defeated.every matches played in India was a coverup to that defeat.. I really feel let down..Is this how you repay you fans Mr.Dhoni and Selectors??? Cricinfo pls publish....

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    When Indian batsmen score heavily on dead Indian wickets, we shower all praise on them.Accolades should be reserved if and when they perform well overseas which would indeed be the true test of their calibre.The tailenders just succumbed like lambs on slaughter.From these performances we can guage the calibre of the likes of Tendulkar,Laxman & Dravid.Bring Zaheer,Sehwag,Gambhir and Pujara to bring some semblance of experience and technique.

  • POSTED BY Cyril_Knight on | December 8, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    India are really suffering from the flat pitches they purposely prepared this year in home ODIs. The batsmen have had it too easy, even a little movement, pace and bounce and they are destroyed.

    I wonder if they will continue to moan about the new regulations making it too hard for bowlers?

  • POSTED BY csowmi7 on | December 8, 2013, 17:19 GMT

    India have been thoroughly beaten in these ODIs. The decision to play swing bowlers who lack pace in the wanderers match and bring in the bowlers with genuine pace into the slow durban wicket was really baffling. And the fact that shami, Ishanth and Yadav only bowled 21 overs was even more appalling. Shami was easily our best bowler in the previous match(and this one as well) and even he didnt complete his quota of overs. The fact that Raina and kohli bowled the middle overs made it even easier for De Kock and Amla. Our batting lacks character and the shot selection was terrible. An iota of fight was expected from these promising youngsters and they failed to deliver even that. There was a time before the world cup when India was competitive in all conditions having won the t20 world cup in SA the Natwest series in England and winning the cb series in Australia. If these guys dont get their act together sadly its gonna be a repeat of the 8-0 debacle.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    South Africa have always lost matches only because of their batting failures because bowling has been extraordinarily consistent. Lets see if it still holds the case in the third game. The only change they need to make is to bring in Davids instead of Miller

  • POSTED BY Prabhash1985 on | December 8, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    Congratulations, South Africa. For India, well, everything happens for good. Mistakes and defeats are good, because, they help to become better. Cricket is not about winning, it's about spirit. All the best, India.

  • POSTED BY wonderstar1 on | December 8, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    I think India must realize one thing. except for Sachin. Dravid.laxman,Ganguly era they never good travelers. Its just that 4 outstanding batsmen were there and they were able to compete in bouncy wickets. before them India dint win anything abraod and after them they will not win anything. even when sachin and dravid were past their prime the team lost 8-0 because there were no more quality batsmen who can play well in bouncy wickets. so that clearly showed the difference and if anyone had doubts by then Its all visible for everyone now.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    this should demonstrate the value of Misbah's figures this year over Kohli's. Misbah earned his runs under the most difficult of conditions, whereas kohli got most of his runs on flat Indian pitches.

  • POSTED BY subhfloyd123 on | December 8, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    no matter how much u score in subcontinental pitches,the real test lies in bouncy,pacy pitches.indian think tank must emphasize on the conditions and must be able to find a solution to this.it is a fact that facing the worlds strongest bowling line up spearheaded by the great DALE STEYN is no joke,but to bcome a great of the game one has to find a comprehensive solution at this level of cricket.the batsmen out there r no schoolboys or indian first class representatives playing against some below par seam bowling in indian tracks.they r playing for a nation n its pride,n so being high rated int. cricketers picked from amongst a massive youths should be able to deliver at all conditions.that is what kohli and co.should emphasize before the historic test series.

  • POSTED BY Tornado1 on | December 8, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    That is bound to happen to world's 'best batting lineup in the dead most wickets' you ever imagine:) just an year ago they lost 8 straight 'test' matches in conditions where poor fellows like Raina or Sharma can't even survive one good spell of swing and short pitch bowling. But don't worry guys back at home, we can destroy even Steyn and Morkel, Just give us those double century wickets :)

  • POSTED BY pradeepsays on | December 8, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    Too bad Dhoni chose to field first in both matches knowing that SA have a suspect batting order. He should have made a statement by batting first and tried putting pressure on them. Instead we are getting pummelled by this top class SA attack. Bowling first in Joberg was a defensive step and we have since sunk to the depths of Australia and England series of 2010-11. He thus compromised the only advantage we had (our batting) This is a scar that India will take into the tests for sure. We have lost the strategic battle already. Pujara may or may not fire but most of the others who are in the test side are in this one day side and there is bound to be some hangover. Miracles do happen though but for that the mind set is very important.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Indian team players not only totally seem out of form but even not showing willingness to play. Some players need long rest including Dhoni.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Proteas are no doubt the Lions in their backyard and they have performed good in Sub continent, Down under as well. The team with a calibre of good attack and formidable batting line up is no doubt the best team, The player like Kallis, Smith leaving to the new players to perform and they are upto mark, No doubt Indian batsmen have failed but they need to show some mature display in the rest of the series, I am not worried abt if India lost the series, but all matters if they fight back to prove their spot in International Rankings.. Best of Luck India and Well Played RSA.. Respect the Game

  • POSTED BY likeintcricket on | December 8, 2013, 17:03 GMT

    SA wanted to prove a point and they did. We all new this is coming as Asian batsman struggles on bowling tracks. Dhoni made a mistake by putting SA in as he was probably thinking that Indians can chase down any target. Howevert the things are different in SA. If Indians batsman don't apply themselves they are in for a big drubbing in Test also. However Indian bowling looked very weak right now and with SA long and effective tail it is hard for them to get SA all out batting first. Dhoni looked very professional with his emotions but if things don't improve that controlled emotion will go away like Misbah.

  • POSTED BY chishtyirfan on | December 8, 2013, 17:03 GMT

    SA played superb against no. 1 team, No. 1 team should not have any excuse but to admit SA is excellent team. Please don't take credit out of young De Kock for back to back excellent knock, Amla, and the bowling powerhouse and the fielding was also excellent, Well done SA.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Could Hashim Amla be SAfrica's newest Jhonty? not in the same position but that calibre?

  • POSTED BY anupkeni on | December 8, 2013, 16:57 GMT

    Dhoni wins the toss and invites South Africa to bat first. South Africa put up a big total on the board and then bowl out India cheaply to win by a three figure margin. This has been the story of the last two ODIs in Johannesburg and Durban. These two ODIs could well mark the beginning of a 16 month humiliation for Team India from December 2013 to March 2015, where Team India play most of their cricket outside subcontinent, unless they mend their ways. At the moment Team India look absolutely listless in both batting and bowling.

  • POSTED BY CricketChat on | December 8, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    Ind were cut down to size by SA after the recent highs of ODI totals in excess of 350s and a bashing of weak WI team. I feel the result is a true reflection of Ind batting as well as bowling capabilities outside the comfort of sub-continent. I don't mean in a demeaning way, just the reality. It is no different than say, SA or Aussies struggling on square turners. Even a struggling Pak look better than Ind now. The cricket balance has been restored to some extent.

  • POSTED BY reality_check on | December 8, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    Looking at the scoreline from recently concluded Ind/Aus ODI series where chasing 350+ was hardly a problem and comparing it to first two ODI's in this series, India has cemented a simple fact that their batting only clicks on flat Indian pitches and their bowling is nothing more than a club level team.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:50 GMT

    We already know how bad our bowlers are but our batsmen are now exposed to pace and bounce. They are glorified in india but the inability to deal with these conditions is not addressed. Because of batsman friendly pitches ,bowlers in new gen is not developed. salutes to Dhoni who in first odi showed how to play fast bowlers. Also in odi it was funny to see people panicking and getting themselves runout!!!

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    India is far from world no.1 team. I think their away performance is same as Bangladesh.

  • POSTED BY Feroz.hassan.25 on | December 8, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    The strongest batting line up in the world ... or just in INDIA?? Where are the Indian double centurions?? To Mr. Sidhdhu's theory: The birds of India became cockroaches in South Africa!!!!

  • POSTED BY Nampally on | December 8, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    Most disappointing display by Indian batsmen led to a series defeat for the World #1 ODI team. India was outmatched in every department of the game. The worst case was the margin of defeat in both the ODI's showed how poorly Indians played. There were some reckless OUTs especially by the new #4 batsman, Rahane. When a guy gets a chance after a long wait, that was atrociously reckless! Ashwin also threw away his wicket. Only 2 guys - Rohit Sharma & Jadeja played well but were brilliantly caught. SA fielding was superb & lived up to Springbok old time reputation! Kohli got out second time due to poor footwork - not getting behind the ball - edging a ball well outside the off stump. Indian bowling was slightly better but still very poor to allow 194 opening stand! Bring in ZAK & Pujara to make it a proper XI. Pujara with his correct footwork & defence is easily the best batsmen. India cannot afford to keep him out when its batting is so poor! Selectors & MSD- Please Wake Up!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    whats the most fun part is the 1st SA wicket fell in the 35th over whereas the world champs was all out in 35 over. just superb display of the number 1 team.

  • POSTED BY ThilankaK on | December 8, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    I'm not surprise about this result ! 1st ODI just 200, 2nd ODI 146 & 3rd ODI my prediction is below 100 all out ! but surely SA will try to put IND below 36 all out ! that is all time lowest ODI record ! I think this IND B team It is reality !

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    keep it up guys

  • POSTED BY Xandier on | December 8, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    Cricket has changed so dramaticly over the past decade, teams chasing 350+ in there backyard and loosing with such margins on other's! This shows such inconsistency and the temprament of individuals who we cherish so much when they score a double hundred under the shadow of there own..! No team and i mean no team is tempramently strong enough to overcome this overseas dilemma. Even if they do able to overcome it by winning a series or two overseas..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:20 GMT

    Congrat s. to. south. Africa. cricket team. devilliers. great team work.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:15 GMT

    clearly indians proved to the world that they are nothing...indian cricket should think seriously about the facts.. if they really need to win world cup 2015..time to say good bye to indian pitch and have more matches with England, aussie and south africa.. top 3 batsman need to find rythm and that can be done only if more matches are organised in subcontinent .. kohli has dissapointed..thought he would stick around.. hope india bounve back strongly to wash ou the first two defeats..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:14 GMT

    Indian team can only play in Indian pitches. last tym Indians played series outside india; they lost in one day n test matchs. its same dis tym also. wat is fletcher doing as coach. only telling Indians how to play Indians in Indian condition. this team can't even fight one side game always.

  • POSTED BY JanooGerman on | December 8, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    Dhoni is one of my all time favorite and arguably the most genius captain India ever produced. He is a smart reader of the conditions either at the start of the game and/or during the game. How ever in this series I noticed hint of stubbornness in his approach.

    Despite winning both Tosses, knowing South Africa is one of the weakest side when it comes to chasing the targets, Dhoni decided to put South Africa into their comfort zone. In the last nine ODIs South Africa played, only once they chased the target, however not before stumbling. This chase was also aided by the fact that Pakistan did not field their first lineup.

    So far both games finished one-sided. Whether or not India could have won any or both games by batting first cannot be said or confirmed, but for sure by batting first India could have forced South Africa to play outside their comfort zone.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    India will bounce back as they always do. This is a young talented side who will only get better with every game. I hope Zaheer Khan will bring some semblance to the pace attack in Tests. Well played South Africa and this hammering will not be forgotten and avenged.

  • POSTED BY Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on | December 8, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    Righto, we are getting smashed again. What does it take to give Pujara his ODI CAP? Pujara is Rahul Dravjd v2.0. Many an Indian overseas win in ODIs as well as tests were etched on the backdrop of Rahul Dravid's stupendous situational awareness and pragmatic batsmanship. Next, what exactly can Ishant Sharma do? His seam position is still as ugly as his hair. Take a bow Proteas. You beat us fair and square on grass-bowls. Let us see if you can do the same in India. But, for now, congratulations on beating us in your home ODI series.

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | December 8, 2013, 16:01 GMT

    With Indian players playing so much cricket on slow Indian pitches, such performance is expected from the team. The team is thrown in the deep end without any preparation. It is largely BCCI fault for such docile performance of the team. I also don't understand why Dhoni is not starting with Shami opening the bowling. He is the only bowler who looks like capable of talking early wickets. By not opening with his bowling, the opposition openers get easily well set and score big.

  • POSTED BY sumit1982 on | December 8, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    I couldn't understand Dhoni tactics toady. He is playing in Kings mead Durban where fast blower get more help from the pitch. He has not play 4 fast blower.

    You are blowing with part-time spinner raina in these match.I couldn't understand his plan.

    South Africa ODI -3-0 Test series : 2-0

  • POSTED BY Albert_cambell on | December 8, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    What is happening to our modern VIv richards Virat Kohli. Looks like he is sitting ducks in overseas wickets.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | December 8, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    Guys like Ishant & Yadav should learn a few things from Steyn & Tsotsobe. On his own Tsotsobe is rather average but is aided by Steyn at the other end. This in turn makes it easy for the bowlers who come in next. In any sport, this is how one link strengthens the other link and builds the whole chain. This why a a weak link weakens the whole system can sometimes bring it down. OTOH, our bowlers fail to extend the pressure (whatever little they create) & the other team is never really in any major pressure.

    When this tour started I had felt that India had the upper hand in ODIs and SA had the upper hand in Tests cos they are clearly a much superior side in that format. I have been wrong on the first assumption so I hope I will be wrong on the second assumption too though it does not look likely. India's performance so far has been shockingly abysmal. My optimism has fooled me twice now on this tour. I hope they will at least make the 3rd ODI competitive cos winning it seems tough.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | December 8, 2013, 15:51 GMT

    Dhawan is just like Sehwag...another flat track bully. He should not be taken on overseas tour. Last time we toured South Africa, we won a couple of matches due to gutsy batting from Yusuf Pathan and Harbhajan. This time, we don't have a single player stepping up.

  • POSTED BY Naveed_Pak on | December 8, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    Indians should ask their cricket board BCCI to cancel all foreign tours and play only on flat pitches where Kohlis, Rohits, Dhawans and Rainas perform consistently. Our team is so underrated team and is considered one of the most weak batting unit but we should praise performances of our players, they fought hard in almost all 8 ODIs against South africa recently. They have won a series in south africa on fast and bouncy wickets. restricted south africa under 200 runs twice in UAE. Even when we are not having international cricket in our country from last 4 years. Excellent job...Pakistani boys.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | December 8, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    Guys like Ishant & Yadav should learn a few things from Steyn & Tsotsobe. On his own Tsotsobe is rather average but is aided by Steyn at the other end. This in turn makes it easy for the bowlers who come in next. In any sport, this is how one link strengthens the other link and builds the whole chain. This why a a weak link weakens the whole system can sometimes bring it down. OTOH, our bowlers fail to extend the pressure (whatever little they create) & the other team is never really in any major pressure.

    When this tour started I had felt that India had the upper hand in ODIs and SA had the upper hand in Tests cos they are clearly a much superior side in that format. I have been wrong in the first assumption so I hope I will be wrong in the second assumption too though it does not look likely. India's performance so far has been shockingly abysmal. My optimism has fooled me twice now on this tour. I hope they will at least make the 3rd ODI competitive cos winning it seems tough.

  • POSTED BY Naveed_Pak on | December 8, 2013, 15:40 GMT

    Dhoni should have promoted himself and lead from the front but he is so clever, he only comes early on pure batting pitches otherwise hide himself from new ball on bowling pitches only to increase his batting average.

  • POSTED BY Kashi0127 on | December 8, 2013, 15:38 GMT

    As long as Indian Board is only interested in money and records and statistics this will continue to happen. What Indian public need to realize is Indian Cricket is a Laughing Stock. Indian board is politically clever in this. As long as India plays more games in India their players (like Sachin Tendulkar) will keep piling records whether it does any good to Indian cricket or not and thereby Indian people are fooled into believing that India is on top of the world. In return the Tendulkars of the country and board make piles of money. Their quality gets exposed when they tour Australia, SA and England and probably one day Pakistan. This is killing Indian cricket!

  • POSTED BY tanstell87 on | December 8, 2013, 15:28 GMT

    Dhoni loves playing with 6 batters & 5 bowlers all the time...India played Jadeja at number 7 in CB series in 2012, India could not make the final...the 6 batters in overseas conditions affects the balance...time to play 7 batsmen + Jadeja at number 8 as Ashwin is of no use on hard wickets - he could not get wickets in Australia too & he is same in South Africa...no improvements...Dhoni there are other spinners too in the country...please try them...

  • POSTED BY FlyingDutchman13 on | December 8, 2013, 15:28 GMT

    we can see true Indian talents now ! #1 team who can play only there home grounds

  • POSTED BY tanstell87 on | December 8, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    Indian fan here...this was always on the cards...India is playing with 3 liabilities - Raina, Ashwin & Jadeja....Jadeja can neither bat nor bowl in this conditions...the real culprit here is Ashwin who cant take wickets looks to contain batsman...he is of no use in either India or overseas...Rahul Sharma and Pragyan Ojha are much much better than Ashwin.

  • POSTED BY Dishonored on | December 8, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    India will not win a single match in this tour because they are flat track bullies :)

  • POSTED BY Cricket_Lover_Guy007 on | December 8, 2013, 15:21 GMT

    Really a special effort the the Indians (So called # 1 ranked team). They play whole year in India and the only 1 or 2 series they play outside they have been white washed in all the areas..!

    Do ranking still matter????

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | December 8, 2013, 15:20 GMT

    Ok..ODI series for southAfrica..and test series well and truly belongs to India

  • POSTED BY adrianf on | December 8, 2013, 15:19 GMT

    Time to acknowledge the facts: SA test team has not lost an away test series since 2006, including beating England and Australia away twice during that time. They are genuinely a top side, in all conditions and have shown today that they can also beat the top ranked ODI side on a low and slow track. When India start performing at the same level, in all conditions, then the media and fans can start hyping the Indian team and players.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    once again proved our batsmen not able to palay apart from subcontenent but sehwag have been scored here many time selectors should have given the chance to him and also gambhir.

  • POSTED BY entryholedia on | December 8, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Nothing has changed from the 8-0 decimating we had from the 2011-12 England & Australian sojourn . We are still sitting ducks to quicker stuff on tracks meant for fast bowling. What can we expect ? Just maybe some acclimatization from all 3 one dayers all of which we will lose . This may just help in the 2 tests to combat the fast stuff! But god save us since we do not have any bowling to bowl out the proteas twice! Even if we lose all & sundry how does it mattter ? IPL is next & so all will be forgotten.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_Lover_Guy007 on | December 8, 2013, 15:11 GMT

    Now that's a really awesome display of cricket by current world champions and # 1 ranked team. Really a special effort the the Indians (So called # 1 ranked team). They play whole year in India and the only 1 or 2 series they play outside they have been white washed in all the areas..!

    Now i can point finger on ICC ranking system how can a team will be no. 1, who consistently fail in overseas series.

  • POSTED BY Ghummann67 on | December 8, 2013, 15:09 GMT

    A few days earlier we felt pity for our team from Pakistan.Now we are proud of our guys. India has to toil hard from this point on. all stalwarts from Kohly to Ashwin. In fact a pack of Cards.A fight back however, always a possibility. At the moment, its a sorry state of affairs bth for Team India and Dhoni itself.

  • POSTED BY marteen on | December 8, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    This pitch is not for indian bowlers or batsmen...They can chase 350+ in their own field easily. But play like a an ordinary team outside their country. They have VIV in their own soil. But that VIV turn into a ordinary batsman outside sub continent...Only 4 of his century is outside sub continent. 2 of those against WI and Zimbabwe. So this is India's best batsman kohli..and others?? no need to count. Others are cat...

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | December 8, 2013, 15:02 GMT

    no point blaming the bowlers only when even the so called "best batting lineup" is struggling so much

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    This was tailormade for batting first. Who chooses to chase when you know the target maybe flexible due to rain ? Post a decent score and then SA would have had to go with D/L. But no, dhoni does not want his batsman to get 50 overs. He wanted the bowlers to fail again and was hoping for 350+ score again, so then indians can crash and burn and blame the bowlers even now I am looking forward to what excuses he stumps up now. Thats all remaining in this game. Just call it ff. Or better india should declare and get practice for test matches. !

  • POSTED BY byc89 on | December 8, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    who is responsible for this defeat? words are not enough to explain all the causes. No one including MSD is performing. Whom to blame? Perhaps the whole indian team?

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    This is the real face of men in blue.... They can only play in their home town....

  • POSTED BY Blade-Runner on | December 8, 2013, 14:55 GMT

    I wonder what happened to those flashy 100s of Dhawan, Kohli and Rohit. Ah..I forgot. This is a South African sporting wicket, not an Indian flat track. So, How can they even imagine making a 30+ let alone 50s and 100's. But, the real fun will begin once the test series started.

  • POSTED BY Rohit_Gupta78 on | December 8, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Time for India to pack their bags and play only on the dead Indian wickets. They not only lack the skill but the courage to stand up on this pitch.

    Truly sad and disappointing for a no 1 team. BCCI has serious rethinking to do else cricket will lose it relevance in India soon.

  • POSTED BY Cric_fever_forever on | December 8, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    seems like rain would also not going to save them. wat scary was the stats at durban indian team never won an odi aginst home team here. quite surprising. i thought durban is happy hunting ground for asian. what even more dissapointing was amla scoring a century in durban. i thought he be walking wicket here in durban his average in this ground suggest that. they are badly hit mentally by first odi i guess . anyway game is still on hope for best indian fans.

  • POSTED BY Harmony111 on | December 8, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    Indian batsmen need to show a little bit of more discretion. Dhawan played a typical Sehwag like shot to get out. Kohli & Rohit too looked totally at ease till they got out. Rohit in particular seemed to have that extra time all the while but Amla took a lovely catch. Rahane was plain unlucky but it evens out with the Miller one. The sad thing is that so far only Yuvi has looked uncomfortable & every other batsman has looked in no special problem inspite of the lovely bowling from Steyn etc. Just a little bit of adjustment & finding the right balance between stroke making & watchfulness would suddenly improve the batting performance but India are yet to find it so far. But they are already 2-0 down here. This is where the role of a coach becomes important.

    India are looking far worse than what they really are, just like Eng are looking in Aus at the moment. As an Ind fan I hope this is as low as they will go in this tour and would find that illusive balance.

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    @adrianf: Rain will also not save them, they have already played 20 overs and short of D/L par score.

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | December 8, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    the flat track kings have been exposed again...dhawan, rohit, kohli who score 200 on dead pitches at home but cant buy a run on a pitch which has a bit for the pacers...time for a reality check for indian team n their fans with another whitewash almost confirmed

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    The moment Dhoni opted to bowl India have already lost the match .... It was a good toss to win. SAF won all the matches agaist Pakistan defending except for the last ODI where Afridi and Hafeez rested.

  • POSTED BY adrianf on | December 8, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    Only the rain can save India now!

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    This was nowhere near a 280 wicket. Our bowlers should bowl better. Team cannot be expected to chase 280+ every game. We do it all the time in india, cannot do it here as well. We need to tighten our lines and expand our lengths (!) and erstrict opposition to 220. Maybe SA should also try batting with hand tied behind their back :)

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    same old story of pace, bounce and movement wiping the top Indian order out without much fuss.It would be too early to predict the outcome of this match but I have a strong suggestion to make i.e,Dhoni must think of changing the batting order.If possible bring yourself up the batting order.You seem the most competent and comfortable in tackling pace at this moment.

  • POSTED BY raj4ind on | December 8, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    yes reality is always harder sehwag and gambhir might be added little bit strength to the batting order

    dhawan is clueless in this pitches

  • POSTED BY gladly on | December 8, 2013, 14:23 GMT

    i know this will happen since indians come sa without preperation.But i know this is opposite series.sa will win odi series 2-1 and india win test series 1-0.

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    Now even the tv commentators are rubbing it in ! " Not one over with more than 5 runs scored in it, very unusual for indian batsmen right ?" Haha, they are used to score 4 and 6 every ball in india, here cant buy a single :)

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    Raina's wish comes true. Spinners introduced :) . The poor guy was praying for it for so long !

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    Kholi, dawan, only heroes in India

  • POSTED BY Blade-Runner on | December 8, 2013, 14:17 GMT

    SA bowlers seem to be too hot for Indian batsmen. Its gonna be a massive defeat for India once again. Indian batsmen's inability to score runs on fast pitches is highly exposed here. Players like Dhawan are not up for international standards. I hope SA will wrap it up pretty soon. GO SA !!!!

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | December 8, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    now dhoni or jadeja need to score A memorable century to win the gamefor india and make the 3rd odi a virtual final. rahane had been unlucky. dhawan was greeady to score quickly.it aint over till its over. india winning after being down at 40-4 will make it one of the most memorable away win in indian cricket history. come on india , fight till last ball.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    44/4...What a score it is...Hatts off...First Bowlers dissapointed all & now batsmen...

  • POSTED BY anvesh4444 on | December 8, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    bad luck for rohit sharma , he look ease at grease, his wicket can be turning point of match.

  • POSTED BY Djawid on | December 8, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    Real schoolboy cricket from the indians,big disappointment,as a good cricketer one should be able to play in all conditions,shows the historical indian batting weaknesses abroad.

  • POSTED BY MossK on | December 8, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    I guess it is again poor scheduling from BCCI that causes both SA openers to score a ton where as India is 38-4. Home stars, home stars, Whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when they come for you? :P

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    Indians dont change their traditions and indian tradition now not to perform well outside India, oops

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 14:07 GMT

    so much for number one team in the world. maybe India should boycott all series outside india. SA has learnt well frm their mistakes against Pakistan. Becoming a fan of cricket SA with every match.

  • POSTED BY Nero28 on | December 8, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    Steyn, Tsotsobe, Morkel, Philander, Kallis, Mclearan. Wow. I think only two of them are enough for get India all out today.

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 14:05 GMT

    The commentators getting it right. Its not the mental side of the game where some one is necessary scared, but they have no planning. Atleast earlier indian teams used to dig a hole, play too slow and never be able to chase 240+ score in SA/AUS. But these players are used to throwing their bats around and connecting for 4 or 6 every single time. They dont want to plan this inning out, now that they were 2-3 wickets down.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 14:05 GMT

    There is a saying, " Frog of the well will never survive in sea" ... Rest no comments

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 14:04 GMT

    India iz a real choker away frm home

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 8, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    Reality seems to be biting harder and harder. 29 for 3 courtesy of a brilliant catch by Hashim Amla.

    Dhawan so far has survived 1 ball from Morkel, and 2 from Steyn! He has yet to face Philander

    Boy - as I type Rahane took an ugly hoik at a poor ball from Morkel and he is on his way. Bad decision - makes up for Miller's bat pad I guess. UDRS would be helpful here, would it not.

    34 for 4. It is all up to MSD now I guess. And now they get to face Philander for the first time. I wonder if MSD will take him on?

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 14:02 GMT

    Well said tommy!!!

  • POSTED BY yasirshabbir on | December 8, 2013, 14:01 GMT

    @RMCross: I'll be surprised if they score anything morel than 150.

    India is a big country with good domestic setup. They should prepare all kinds of pithches at domestic level so that players can learn the art of playing on different pitches.

    Same applies to Pakistan, Srilanka and BD

  • POSTED BY CrICkeeet on | December 8, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    Ind batsmen look lyk at a loss what should b their approach... in the 1st game they started in defensive mind earliar chasing 359, they lost 1 wicket in the 1st 10 ovrs. (though later they played strokes bt in no use)... today their target is 281 nd their trying 2 b little bit aggresive nd already lost 3 in a very short tym (29/3 when um writing this).. i guess the previous match manner was perfect 4 today.. (i can remember they're 60/1 at 1 stage with a little bit slow start) at first u'v 2 set the platform 4m where u can chase then u can go 4 the final chase... where things r looking hard 4 u.. anyway um keep watching... lets see

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    0 to dhawan , 0 to kohli , 19 to rohit,... And they say that they are the top 3 batsmen in the world.... Lolz

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 13:52 GMT

    Raina coming in next is it ?? Nice, cant be shielded for too long. Cant feel bad for RS though, these are not pitches where you can keep your brain off and play your shots. You need to build innings here. Slowly patiently and then if possible mount late charge.

  • POSTED BY ICCexpert.... on | December 8, 2013, 13:49 GMT

    Is this Indian batting really that talented.

  • POSTED BY dayada on | December 8, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    This tournament almost like Ashes. so much things going on off the field & India seems hurting much like England because of those......lol...

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | December 8, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    Still the score is good enough for an indian defeat.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    really nice to see de kock batting opening for SA. I feel like SA got a nuce opener after the depart of GK

  • POSTED BY JustIPL on | December 8, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    Now India will lose this game and all their hype has fallen apart. Kohli has not scored any hundred since Gavasker's surprising prediction. Dhawan was only good on balls coming onto his bat and little bit movement is too good for him. I feel Dhawans second coming has ended now as he is picked by the world bowlers. Anyway, now dhoni has to come up again and be Misbah of India.

  • POSTED BY GoCho on | December 8, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    2 wickets down already. I think we will not cross 225. Hope we fans get a reality check and do not put our batsmen on a pedestal after big centuries on flat tracks! And before you say Champions Trophy, I swallow does not make summer! We do not deserve to be no1 in ODIs, period. In ODIs, no4 is a fair rank; in t20s 2nd or 3rd and no4 in tests

  • POSTED BY ICCexpert.... on | December 8, 2013, 13:42 GMT

    Now I realize that how good is the current young Pakistan team, they beat the South Africans in there own den last week. Hats off.

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | December 8, 2013, 13:42 GMT

    How come Rahane gets his chances outside the country more often ? Sharmas and Rainas get to plunder hapless attacks within india. They should have persisted with Yuvi here and then dumped him after the series alltogether. But no, this is just 2 matches given to the guy and then he will be relegated till we visit England (I suppose thats where Rahane played first iinternational his life!)

  • POSTED BY RMCroos on | December 8, 2013, 13:36 GMT

    250 runs for india .......................do u think .......no they will never score in south african soil in this tour....

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 8, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Reality is biting, and its biting hard....India 16/2. Kohli out for a Duck. Not that easy to bat when its not a slab of cement.

  • POSTED BY yasirshabbir on | December 8, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Well Played Kohli!!!! Welcome Rahane..........

  • POSTED BY RMCroos on | December 8, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    India will not pass 250 they so used to flat wickets now ....not batted in fair cricket wicket .....sorry indians fans 250 ....not possible in south african tour ...

  • POSTED BY yasirshabbir on | December 8, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    Well played Dhawan!!!Lets see if other batsmen has learnt anything from the previous match

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    it's look like very interesting match

  • POSTED BY CrICkeeet on | December 8, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Good 4m the Ind bowlers in death overs but still SA batsmen did their job, 280 is a very good total nd still its a difficult job 4 ind

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 13:14 GMT

    Either I am not big follower of cricket or some othe friends here are unable to see that it was way more difficult to score than The last game ... than how is India going to bat easily against even better attack than last game ....???

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 8, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    Why did AB change the batting order again? Why did he bring Kallis in so late, Kallis is not a game finisher, he is someone you build an innings around. Now the fans will have Kallis in their sights for criticism. Players need to know what number they are going into bat and then adjust their game plan accordingly.

    I thought we got rid off this changing batting order fiasco, you need to learn soon AB, because it wont work in the World Cup. Just trying not to choke will be enough of a challenge.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    Hope openers of India can six six and hit six

  • POSTED BY goldman282 on | December 8, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    target is in range. lets c what happens. if indian batting still fails then it seems they can play at home only. nothing special

  • POSTED BY adrianf on | December 8, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    The track looked flat in the first innings, but don't be fooled, 280 is a very good score.I suppose the pitch is magically gonna turn into a "green top", when SA bowl. I'd be surprised if India get anywhere close.

  • POSTED BY espncricinfomobile on | December 8, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Too big a score at kingsmead ! Tough one for India

  • POSTED BY Harmony_not_Discord on | December 8, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    @black_bird

    What "hats off to great indian team"? :- ) Match is not over yet!!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    India won't come near 281 on this pitch vs this attack - another trophy is ready for the SA cupboard.

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | December 8, 2013, 12:50 GMT

    Great Opp for Ind to win if Virat and gang live up to their reputation. SA should be very disappointed for failing to capitalize on such a great foundation laid by openers. Miller was victim of a poor decision. Cant wait to see how Steyn, Morkel and Philander bowl.

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 8, 2013, 12:50 GMT

    india wont b able to face stane swing

  • POSTED BY Rajesh_india_1990 on | December 8, 2013, 12:49 GMT

    Kallis is too old to play cricket......

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Poor batting from Kalis, Duminy, Miller. Excellent come back by the Indian bowlers. Now the target is chase-able. Up to the batsmen now.

  • POSTED BY TommytuckerSaffa on | December 8, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    LoL. India are back...... This pitch is not easy to score on.

    ODI's averages at Kingsmead (Durban) Average 1st innings score at Kingsmead is 228 Average 2nd innings score at Kingsmead is 179

    Good luck chasing down 280 with Vernon, Dale and Morkel....

  • POSTED BY black_bird on | December 8, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    excellent bowling from india. they can easily chase 400 at any ground. so, 265 will not be a challenge for them. take the series 2-1. hats off to great indian team.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 8, 2013, 12:39 GMT

    AB de Villiers has STILL not learned that a settles batting order is a stable batting order. He squandered a good position by changing the batting order. It has ALWAYS caused problems since he has been skipper - still he does not learn!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    India r back

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    bowlers have done their job, now its up to the batsmen

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    The Indian batsman having superior average because they play most of their cricket on favourable home pitches too is true to an extent but not all true. Those who believe this will be proven wrong over time. If the pitches are so batting friendly how do you explain Jadeja and Ashwin being the top bowlers at the moment. Talent and ability cannot be denied.

  • POSTED BY Yousufahmed1 on | December 8, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    @ TheBigBoodha But then Steyn and Anderson wickets should also be reduced by 33% if they are coming on a grassy track. Isn't it.

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | December 8, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    India has bounced back in last overl. SA is collapsing.

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    Very impressive come back by India!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    poor play from south African after such a good start. india is in control of this game now

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | December 8, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    India has bounced back in last few oversl. Amla is slowing down the run rate. Good bowling India.

  • POSTED BY Mr.Blacksmith on | December 8, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    This is the phycological game by SA. They deceived two times India by using the pitch report and India put themselves in their trap. I reckon if SA could have won these two toss they still would have definitely bat first.

  • POSTED BY test_cricket_lover on | December 8, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha Fantastic comment and so true it is! For example, I am a big fan of Aravinda de Silva's batting and his world cup final century was against the bowling of McGrath and Warne. But his average is slightly above 35. I don't see Kohli having greater 'skills' than de Silva, but his average is more than 50 !!

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    Poor play, in Power play by SA, well Done India.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 11:47 GMT

    Maybe it's too soon to say, but seems like South Africa got another great left-right hand opening combo. Quinton is too mature a batsman for a 20 years old! \m/

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    India's best chance to get back in game

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    de kock deserves test callup against india

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    and Now Muhammad Shami comes back to get some punishment.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 11:34 GMT

    I heard many time times that india won ct13, chamions trophy is ICC tournament [Indian cricket council ;) ] they prepare a wickets as per they want so winning an ICC event out side sub continent is not big deal the fact of the matter is they didn't won any series (TEST,ODI,T20) after winning a WC

    At current, World cricket has so called World champ. who didn't know how to play outside their soil.

  • POSTED BY Vivfan on | December 8, 2013, 11:26 GMT

    @gsingh7. I speak for all cricket fans in the world when I say that Pakistan defeated SA in SA because of their ability, uniqueness, effort, skill. SA of course is one gem of a team, and a team which also possess unique skill. Defeating SA, in SA is not an easy feat. India are yet to win a game in fast-bouncy pitches.

    What Indian fans need to realise is that they are playing in the same conditions, same format which Pakistan played a few days ago, yet SA are destroying India in every aspect of the game.

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    @gsingh7: Where were you, we were missing you, just sit back and relax, dear.

  • POSTED BY Mervo on | December 8, 2013, 11:21 GMT

    Why are India not bowling their pave bowlers? Very strange.

  • POSTED BY Messa1 on | December 8, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    this is what I call getting hammered or smashed. No wickets yet??! I bet if SA played against ZIM the game would have been much challenging and competitive.LMAO

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    @ Greatest_Game bro, you are absolutely right. Once again sorry to all my Indian friends that i hurt their feeling with my previous cheap and unimportant comments. Nothing could be better than PEACE.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 11:16 GMT

    unfortunately India got no RP singh or Sreesanth in the team.If both of them were in the team,things would have been different. But wait...Sressanth was in Jail last time i checked..Ohh..So it means SA batsmen would continue hammering Indian bowlers..That's not good.Even i feel sorry for Indian bowlers..

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 11:15 GMT

    I still feel India will come back. As much as their bowling is worst, their batting is that much good. So i strongly feel their batsmen will make the chasing interesting.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 11:15 GMT

    india will loooooooooooose today as Ishant is playing no hopes at all... i started hating dhoni for giving more chances to ishanth.... rasool or irfan are far far far better than him.... no woneder india is not dominating in all formats

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    @Solid_Snake: I think If Dhoni want to do bowling it will give India one more advantage, they do not need keeper, because no ball is going to keeper gloves, can move wkt keeper to any other fielding position to save few boundaries.

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | December 8, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    @messa -- sl only had two legends - arvinda dasilva and attapattu. rest are home bullies and nothing much outside. elegant mahela averages less than rohit sharma and suresh raina. some players in india a team averages more than legends mahela and dilshan. kohli has measure of malinga. dont generalise things. look at individual cases.

  • POSTED BY mahi678 on | December 8, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    what? this dhoni will never change.... whay u continue give bowling to spinners whwn they arent picking wickets? by the end of the time u give bowl to seemers, match is already in their hands.... and u will say bowlers cannot bowl in death.... pity....

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | December 8, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    HASHIM AMLA....what a player!!! wow He is the fastest to 4000 runs, beats Viv n Kohli n by a long margin as well... (Amla 81 inn, Viv 88 inn, Kohli 93 inn)

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | December 8, 2013, 11:08 GMT

    What's happening in SA should be of no surprise to anyone other than Indian fans. The entire set up and media focus in India is just so unbelievably self-centric, and everything is set up to the advantage of India. I don't need to go into details, as everyone knows what I am talking about. What this leads to is a massive delusion on behalf of team, media and fans about the actual standard of the Indian team and players.

    As far as I am concerned, when deciding ICC rankings, Indian batsman's runs should be deducted 33% due to the flat pitches and tiny grounds. Ordinary batsmen have VivRichards-like stats because of this ridiculous set up.

  • POSTED BY Greatest_Game on | December 8, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Very impressive fielding by India, and the bowlers are not giving away extras. While the bowling has not made any inroads, India are not giving away any runs for free, and are not wasting any possible runout chances. Alaways makes a game more exciting when the teams are consistently competitive.

    On another note: South Africans, and many many others around the world, are today mourning the death of Nelson Mandela. It would be appreciated if posters here could give a moments thought to the principles for which he fought: liberty, tolerance, peace, and freedom of speech are some examples. Give thought to the life of this remarkable man, and ask yourself if it is really necessary to post comments that are disrespectful, impolite, and sometimes derogatory?

    In his honour, it would be appropriate to post comments that are polite and respectful.

    Thank you.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Not long ago..Indians were comparing their bowlers with Pakistani bowlers..Now i agree that Indian bowlers are miles ahead of Pakistani bowlers in (getting Hammered & not being able to take any wickets) :P Ashwin & Sir Jadeja were being compared with Ajmal..B.Kumar & Shami were already legendary Pacers in the eyes of some...Now eyes are opened again & all there's a scoreboard showing 147/0 in 26 overs...Great bowling..Really Enjoying the boundaries & batting by SA...Keep going Amla & De Kock..Today both of you bat till 49th over..Make 200 individually & set a new World Record...It's possible if opponent team has got such bowlers :P

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Major reason Indians bowlers are being thrashed by SA batsmen is, SA played Pak's very good bowling attack, now Indian bowling attack is much easy for them. Sorry for my previous comments calling India a mediocre team. Everyone knows that's not true. I take my words back. Interesting to see how India's approach would be chasing a big total, which so far looks like. They got world class batsmen like Kholi, Sharma and Dhoni and amazing talent in face of Dhawan. Good luck India!

  • POSTED BY Blade-Runner on | December 8, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    Well, It is gonna be another thrashing for home track champion team, as it seems. What a toothless bowling attack India possess. They dont seem like they are capable of picking a wicket anytime soon. I predict 100+runs win for South Africa. !!! GO SA !!

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    Hahahaha too many bowling options India have, 25 overs, and Dhoni have used 7 bowlers, better he gives Ishant Sharma the gloves and come to bowl himself.

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | December 8, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    @ pak fan-- mediocre indian team? the team which won world cup 2011 won ct2013 in foreign country undefeated who are best team in odi and 2nd best in tests is mediocre? what u make of pak team who lost all matches in ct2013 were defeated by zimbabwe in tests, never won any match vs india in world cups , team that is outside of top 4 in every format? i guess u dont know the meaning of mediocre then.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    to goIndia 75: bro you are right that India can beat south Africa but I watched all the games which being played between pak and south Africa. Pakistani bowlers were on top of the africans most of the time! pak has only one problem, their batting otherwise they can win every match against any opposition including India!

  • POSTED BY Messa1 on | December 8, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    @Yousufahmed1 why dont u stop trying to divert the convo from Ind. They are currently getting smashed all over the ground. LOL. SA is playing as if they are playing some group of club cricketers

  • POSTED BY coldcoffee123 on | December 8, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    WOW. Totally perplexed. India's frontline batsmen Kohli and Raina bowling. So numbers 8,9,10,11 in Indian team have no role to play?? I say, remove number 8,9,10,11 and play with 11 specialist batsmen. Atleast they will make 330-350 per game. And hopefully win a few matches.

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | December 8, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    Dear Dhoni..I guess now only you have left in the team who has not Bowled yet..So please take off your Gloves & Throw an over or two in hope of a wicket... Seriously what a pathetic bowling display.I am shocked..Green pitch,grey sky... This pitch was suppose to give help to the Bowlers.Yet Indian Pace attack made it look like a Flat track..Indian team went there to do White wash.Said a lot of words before this tournament.They are now in for some records...2nd time in a row SA manages 100+ opening Partnership..Indian bowlers cannot even overcome this Rookie De Kock..Now only their batsmen could save them from another huge defeat.Eating popcorn & enjoying the match :P....Best of luck

  • POSTED BY Messa1 on | December 8, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    @Yousufahmed1 I dont know what sort of cricket u follow, the so called legends in SL are NOT only legends in SL but for overseas fans/ex-cricketers as well. Sanga and Mahela they both are quality, superb and classic players who's still doing well. So try to respect that before u make such retarded comments

  • POSTED BY ShanNachimuthu on | December 8, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Even with this mediocre bowling attack India managed to top ICC ODI ranking which tells the strength of the Indian batting. All the time India making up with its batting and little bit of fielding. Today no swing for pacers and no spin for spinners. But when SA comes to bowl the swing will be square for pacers. Still If India manages to restrict SA around 270 then there is chance otherwise the series ends here. But it looks like again India chasing another 370+.

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    Graem Smith is very unlucky not to get chance against India, he could have scored 2 centuries to get his form back.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    I think Bhuveneshwar Kumar will learn a very important lesson today which is never take your place for granted. He is India's no 1 bowler after recent performances. Although he surely deserves more chances, you cannot deny that he let his team down in the last game. I hope Ishant is hammered for 100 runs today and is never picked for India again. In any case Bhuveneshwar Kumar will be back for the next game.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    rahane will fail to steyn

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    First things first, beat SA in SA and then talk. Forget past, becuz if we get into past, then pak has won more matches than Ind in ODI's. Whole world is looking how Indians are struggling in SA against quality bowling attack. Good team is always the one which battles under difficult circumstances and world class bowling attack, like pak did. They won the series. So, if India could also dot he same, i will certainly believe india is a good team. Let's wait and see. Cheers!

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 10:44 GMT

    First things first, beat SA in SA and then talk. Forget past, becuz if we get into past, then pak has won more matches than Ind in ODI's. Whole world is looking how Indians are struggling in SA against quality bowling attack. Good team is always the one which battles under difficult circumstances and world class bowling attack, like pak did. They won the series. So, if India could also dot he same, i will certainly believe india is a good team. Let's wait and see. Cheers!

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    Whaat ?? World's no.1 team INDIA. never played a single series out of country in last one year. Champion of their home batting wickets. Came out of their shell in SA and everybody is feeling pity on their bowlers. Bring some good bowlers in your team like PAK use to do. Batting does'nt make u win every match.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    another 100 partnership for openers ... India should take 2 or 3 wickets in next 10 overs otherwise score will go on and on ... unchaseble indeed if they will not stop them now ...

  • POSTED BY Prakmca on | December 8, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    Ishant Sharman back....Excellent.... another 300+ chase today for india.....

  • POSTED BY MaruthuDelft on | December 8, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    My Goodness! It just feels identical to what India was in terms of bowling since I could remember. The same toothless bowling. It is a constant. I think this would have beem the same in 1930s too. I think it has less to do with pace. It is about bowling. Bowling is like chasing and trapping a target prey. Bowlers form India don't have that mindset.

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | December 8, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    So Bhuvneshwar kumar who was hyped so much by Indian fans n experts (including the chopras, manjrekars n bhogles) n hailed as one of best bowlers in the world....has been dropped n that too in SA (ideal place for his style of bowling)....after all that hype, this is what happens to indian bowlers....n guess who's back ishant sharma n he has lived upto his reputation so far....4 overs for 27 runs.

  • POSTED BY jimbond on | December 8, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    India should have taken a gamble with Bhuvaneshwar Kumar instead of Ishant - Sharma- especially if they wanted early wickets. Now Veron Philander will show them what a medium pacer who can swing the ball can do.

  • POSTED BY biloo007 on | December 8, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    indian fans,,COOL down,,this is not Mumbai,,delhi,,kanpur.Its durban,,Wanderers and south African pitches,,you will see more drama in test matches..JUST WAIT and PAKISTAN team has the best bowling line up ,dn,t even dare to compare your bowling with my pakisatni bowling line up..AJMAL,JUNAID,AFRIDI,IRFAN,,and think about ashwin,,jadeja,,kumara,shami.,lol if we are lucky then show us and beat s.africa ,,which is a dream for u.

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    @Yousufahmed1: If UAE is home ground for Pakistan, SA is home ground for India, IPL was played there, same logic should be applied to India too.

  • POSTED BY coldcoffee123 on | December 8, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    When batsman Raina has to bowl inside 15 overs, you know the whole of India does not have 5 bowlers. There is zero challenge to the opposition batsmen. Can anyone tell me when did any opposition bowling attack bowled to India with a batsman in the first 15 overs? Now wonder India has to chase 360+ targets. Nonsense.

  • POSTED BY bouncer709 on | December 8, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    LOL now Indians are expecting Raina to do magic for them. Where are the front line bowlers? and where is SIR Jadeja, foolish people were comparing him to Saeed Ajmal/Afridi/Hafeez. Can't say any thing till last ball is played, but so far same story as 1st ODI, even better from SA. and projected scores seems 350+ yet again... I think to save the time Indian should start chasing 350+ every time, no need for other team to bat.

  • POSTED BY black_bird on | December 8, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    India is going to win by 10 wickets. ishant will score a fifty today.

  • POSTED BY Yousufahmed1 on | December 8, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    Definition of LEGEND in Sri Lanka. Any batsman who has an average of 30 is a Legend of the game. LOL. Going by that definition every team in the world even ZIm and BAN has at least 5-6 LEGENDS in their team and top teams are carrying 8 LEGENDS every time they take the field. LOL.

  • POSTED BY Yousufahmed1 on | December 8, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    @ Pak_Fan86 Indeed Pak has a superb bowling attack and did beat SA but they were also defeated in UAE which is now their home ground. But what about your club team SL. They have never won anything outside sub continent. At least this mediocre Indian team has won world cups outside Asia. You are yet to win a test in many countries including in India. Now That's somthing you can laugh at and I bet you wouldn't be able to stop laughing when you check India vs SL record in the past 3 years or so.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 10:13 GMT

    india will never win in these situations

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 10:09 GMT

    @Pak_Fan86 : mediacore team? Seriously? Did your team won Champions trophy in England with your 'worldclass' bowling attack? :)) And how many matches did you team won & lost in last 2-3 months? Please answer both my questions :) Let me laugh now!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    I Just love the way Indian Bowlers continue to get hammered. I really feel pity for them. But the fact of the matter is the Indian Team should only play 11 batsman out of which few can bowl. This will make Indian Team win more matches abroad and even if they lose they would be able to excuse that we played part timers. What i see here is Quinton De Kock pulling the so called Indian Fast Bowlers on front foot so easily and then playing the backfoot straight drive rather more comfortably. This is pathetic low standard bowling from the Indian Team.

  • POSTED BY GoIndia75 on | December 8, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    Do not agree to Pak_fan86, India can beat SA, if you forgot we beat Pak here in 2020 final lol... Pakistan won recently very luckily, one game by just 1 run, two more games and u guys would hv lost 3-2. If u r so gr8 why dint u win champions trophy in England. Why dint u win World Cup in 2011. Lol....why did u loose 4-1 to South Africa in Dubai..lol

  • POSTED BY Imad_K on | December 8, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    To blame the Indian bowling is really to divert the attention from the real issue. The Indian bowling has always been weak - unfortunately they haven't been able to produce any real quick threatening bowlers. So especially against teams like South Africa with their batting line up - the Indian team will always concede runs such as 300 plus unless the South Africans have an odd bad day. The problem for the whole world to see is the Indian batsmen lack of ability to play against good quick bowling attacks outside the subcontinent on quick bouncy tracks. The same team that scores so many runs in India look like kids playing against men when playing teams such as England, Australia and South Africa outside of India. Until they don't learn to play the short ball in these conditions they will always get thrashed.

  • POSTED BY kuldeep1109 on | December 8, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    @Chaudhry Mansoor Gujjar - That's very true. The Indian team is currently relying too much on the top 3 batsman and Dhoni. And the bowling has become so pathetic that 300 plus scores are almost a certainty against the Indian bowling. We keep harping about how the subcontinent conditions in India are hurting the ability to produce good fast bowlers. Well, Pakistan is part of the subcontinent too and keeps producing awesome fast bowlers. Something to note and strive towards for India. A better fast bowling unit would mean that even the batsmen will have better net practice, facing fast bowling and their performances overseas on fast and bouncy pitches will improve too.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    @Pak_Fan86 Suprising to call India a mediocre team.. Get your stats right..

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:47 GMT

    india should come to Pakistan to learn how to bowl ... india is in need of genyine fast bowlers like we have ... indian bowlers should get some suggestions from our bowling legends like wasim , waqar , aaqib javed etc ...

    batting is alright ... instead India is relying on 3 top order batsmans and Sharp-mind Dhoni(my favourite) ... kohli and Dhawan should have to play longer innings if they really wants to win as they are teams real strength Dhoni is nice finisher but if somebody supports him from other end ...

    lets c what will happen in today's match ...

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    good changes made by india. ishant is experienced player and will be vital. this 11 is filled with more pace by yadav and ishant in.

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    Why Indians don't understand that it's not an easy thing to beat SA in SA. Not everyone is capable of doing it. Pak did it becuz they had world class bowling attack. Now if Indian people thinking that India would do the same, i can't stop laughing. Its not children's play that any mediocre team goes to SA and beat them. Come on! i mean seriously, come on!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    India is in need of some special and genuine fast Bowlers ... they should come to Pakistan and get some suggestions from our bowling legends ... this may help them otherwise like always they will concede 300+ runs in every second match ... and at the moment they are not capable to utilize bowling conditions too ...

    in batsmans Kohli and Ms Dhoni are good and Dhawan is bit ok as he need some more matches to adopt international Conditions ... he is Good too ...

    in my opinion Indian team is fully relying on their 3 top order batsmans and Sharp-mind Dhoni ... otherwise no bowling and batting ...

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    This is w good team selection by MS after the first loss though I would have preferred one more fast bowler rather two spinners which in this alien condition is not going bear fruit. One last opportunity for Ishanth to perform. Fingers crossed for India win today. Jai ho

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 8, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    Great move...but I still believe Buvi is better than Ishant.Go India Go!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    good changes made by msd........... but one more change should b made ............ pujara in for raina ........... because i think this indian team is'nt able to play full 50 overz .......thats y to soldify the middle order ......... pujara should b in playing eleven ....................in bowling department one more change is yet to made ...........................zak in for ashvin .................................................ashvin not felt handy in these overcast conditions ....................and south africans are good player of spin .......................check their stats......... amla ,,,,,, kallis ..... ab develliers.......all these boys got a solid technique against spin .....................specially they are in there own cnditions .................msd is lucky to win tossssss again ....................if SA put anything more then 250 ...................then get ready for one defeat for flat trck bullies.................

  • POSTED BY vrkp on | December 8, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    The changes are as expected by many. But bringing ishant in place of bhuvi is not a good one. Hope I'm proved wrong.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    Happy to see rahane and umesh in the team

  • POSTED BY humi_cric on | December 8, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    Interestingly, Dhoni select those players which Indian supporters want in the Team, Rahane, Yadav, and Ishant. Hmmmm, expecting a good fight here. Good luck to both teams, though I am supporting SA, TBH.

  • POSTED BY Rahul17_1983 on | December 8, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    I cann't believe Ishant again and that too instead of BHuvi..This is ridiculous of Dhoni...Y bhuvi don't get as much support as Ishant

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | December 8, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Suprised at Dhonis decision to bowl after winning toss. It would have been better for India to bat first, set a big total and then put pressure on SA batsmen who have crumbled under pressure in the past. Nice to see Rahane in the team and look fwd to better bowling performance from India's bowling attack. Today is a big test for World #1 Team

  • POSTED BY truecric_fan on | December 8, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Suprised at Dhonis decision to bowl after winning toss. It would have been better for India to bat first, set a big total and then put pressure on SA batsmen who have crumbled under pressure in the past. Nice to see Rahane in the team and look fwd to better bowling performance from India's bowling attack. Today is a big test for World #1 Team

  • POSTED BY Rahul17_1983 on | December 8, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    I cann't believe Ishant again and that too instead of BHuvi..This is ridiculous of Dhoni...Y bhuvi don't get as much support as Ishant

  • POSTED BY humi_cric on | December 8, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    Interestingly, Dhoni select those players which Indian supporters want in the Team, Rahane, Yadav, and Ishant. Hmmmm, expecting a good fight here. Good luck to both teams, though I am supporting SA, TBH.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:27 GMT

    Happy to see rahane and umesh in the team

  • POSTED BY vrkp on | December 8, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    The changes are as expected by many. But bringing ishant in place of bhuvi is not a good one. Hope I'm proved wrong.

  • POSTED BY on | December 8, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    good changes made by msd........... but one more change should b made ............ pujara in for raina ........... because i think this indian team is'nt able to play full 50 overz .......thats y to soldify the middle order ......... pujara should b in playing eleven ....................in bowling department one more change is yet to made ...........................zak in for ashvin .................................................ashvin not felt handy in these overcast conditions ....................and south africans are good player of spin .......................check their stats......... amla ,,,,,, kallis ..... ab develliers.......all these boys got a solid technique against spin .....................specially they are in there own cnditions .................msd is lucky to win tossssss again ....................if SA put anything more then 250 ...................then get ready for one defeat for flat trck bullies.................

  • POSTED BY wapuser on | December 8, 2013, 9:31 GMT

    Great move...but I still believe Buvi is better than Ishant.Go India Go!!!!

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    This is w good team selection by MS after the first loss though I would have preferred one more fast bowler rather two spinners which in this alien condition is not going bear fruit. One last opportunity for Ishanth to perform. Fingers crossed for India win today. Jai ho

  • POSTED BY android_user on | December 8, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    India is in need of some special and genuine fast Bowlers ... they should come to Pakistan and get some suggestions from our bowling legends ... this may help them otherwise like always they will concede 300+ runs in every second match ... and at the moment they are not capable to utilize bowling conditions too ...

    in batsmans Kohli and Ms Dhoni are good and Dhawan is bit ok as he need some more matches to adopt international Conditions ... he is Good too ...

    in my opinion Indian team is fully relying on their 3 top order batsmans and Sharp-mind Dhoni ... otherwise no bowling and batting ...

  • POSTED BY Pak_Fan86 on | December 8, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    Why Indians don't understand that it's not an easy thing to beat SA in SA. Not everyone is capable of doing it. Pak did it becuz they had world class bowling attack. Now if Indian people thinking that India would do the same, i can't stop laughing. Its not children's play that any mediocre team goes to SA and beat them. Come on! i mean seriously, come on!