South Africa v India, 3rd ODI, Centurion December 11, 2013

De Kock laughs off Ishant's 'lucky' remark

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De Kock responds to Ishant's 'lucky' remark

There were a few sniggers in the pressroom when India fast bowler Ishant Sharma said that Quinton de Kock, who scored three consecutive hundreds in the ODI series, had "been quite lucky."

When asked if India were sick and tired at the sight of de Kock at the wicket, and if they were relieved he was not part of the Test squad, Ishant said: "I think he has been quite lucky. I can say that. Because the ball is getting in between fielders, he is getting top edges, players have been dropping catches off him. I think, you have to take positives. If he is scoring, good for him. What we can do is more important."

Minutes later, de Kock and his captain AB de Villiers had a laugh about it. "He was telling the truth," de Kock said, folding his arms and trying to hide his laughter. "I did get a bit lucky today. There were two dropped catches and I was really angry with myself. I just had to go back into my bubble again."

De Kock, on 37, had offered Ajinkya Rahane a regulation chance at short fine leg, and he also gave Yuvraj Singh an opportunity at mid-on six runs later. Neither catch was taken and de Kock was shaken by his carelessness, in conditions "where you had to fight for runs upfront."

De Kock's only rash move after those reprieves was on 99, when he charged Mohammed Shami and mis-timed the ball. In the commentator's box Herschelle Gibbs, whom de Kock joined as one of five batsmen to score three successive ODI hundreds, was impressed because he believed the young batsman had showed guts. At the non-striker's end, de Villiers, who also has three straight ODI tons, was not. He marched towards de Kock to have a word.

"I don't remember what he said," de Kock admitted, after the game had been washed out. De Villiers, who was sitting beside him, put on an expression of mock shock. "You don't remember anything," he joked. De Kock blushed a little while the people in the room laughed, and de Villiers explained what he had told the newest member of his team.

"I spoke to him twice," de Villiers said. "I spoke to him before the start of the game today and I told him never to be satisfied. And then I spoke to him when he was the 90s. Anyway, he can't remember anything."

De Kock does remember that this was, "one of the harder hundreds of these last three," and not only because of the conditions. South Africa had been in trouble at 28 for 3 and de Kock did not have the support of Hashim Amla in this game. He said the innings - 101 off 120 balls - showed how he had matured "I think I have grown a lot," he said. "My confidence was never there before. It has grown a lot. My work ethic has grown as well."

Despite de Kock being in such rich form, South Africa's selectors did not pick him for the two Tests against India. He simply accepted he has more work to do to play the longer format at the top level. "I'm sure anybody would love to be part of the Test squad, but I will have to go back to four-day cricket, bide my time and hopefully score some runs there.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • bowledout67 on December 17, 2013, 12:34 GMT

    if it weren't for Quinny, i think ishant wouldn't have had the opportunity to make such remarks in the first place as Quinny was responsible for hitting Mohit Sharma out of the attack.....

  • mark2011 on December 14, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    This young DeCock scoring consecutive 3 centuries against so called #1 ODI team is a real shame to India...India is a one sided team that can score in flat tracks so by strategy itself India ignore their bowlers, that works in india,but in abroad that doesnt .hence India cant win a macthes when even ground is provided for bat & ball and this is what happend to such a one sided batting team (not a cricket team),lucky escape from 3-0 white wash thanks to rain God....Good luck SA for rest of the series.

  • Al_Bundy1 on December 13, 2013, 22:27 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is indeed "lucky" to be still playing for India in spite of his mediocre bowling average of 39. In any other country he would have been thrown out long time ago.

  • kbza86 on December 13, 2013, 19:16 GMT

    guys plz tell me how high/low Sanju Samson and Praveen Kumar are ranked in India? we have thought here in SA that Sanju would of broken into that first team by now...plz let us know what you think and Praveen has an amazing ability, you don't think so?

  • Paki-Cricketlover on December 13, 2013, 13:59 GMT

    India's woes continue in south africa...past record in south africa shows the same...well its a wake up call for team India that Cricket is not to be played in India only ...

  • Paki-Cricketlover on December 13, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    Well Ishant was lucky to be still in South africa, after performing poorly in the recent past...raher than Praising Quinty,Ishant's statement shows his mentality...his caliber...that what he is...!!!

  • on December 13, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    I dont think india is a no1 side, just one series win indians go gaga about their abilities, except for south africa, countries like australia and westindies lack the same ability and ferociounes they had in their game as in the early 70`s and 80`ee s. moreover the indian ipl has made some of the foreign players less hostile in India. The greatest player to have played for india was sunil gavaskar and the best fast bowler was jayagal srinath.

  • on December 13, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Guys i hope u didn't forget Ind run chase against Aus fast bowlers in Ind. 350+ in just 45+/- overs. and they repeated in again n again in that series. but then the same team with its all high spirit was getting all out inside the 50 overs and losing by a lead of over 100 runs. (3rd ODI against SA would have been the same story). when Aug was no. 1 they proved it to be no.1 all over the world on any conditions.

  • Greatest_Game on December 13, 2013, 3:24 GMT

    @ gaga001 believes " South Africa can not beat india in india at all because india has improved a lot, i m sure india has learnt a good lesson here and will improve in the coming era."

    In SA in ODIs SA have won 21, India have won 5. In India in ODIs SA have won 10, India have won 13.

    Histroy just repeated itself. India got hammered in SA. No reason to think that things will change when SA pays in India.

    In tests in India, SA have won 5 and India have won 5. They are drawn in tests in India. In SA India have won 2 tests, and SA have won 7.

    SA have completely dominated India in SA, and competed with India on the SC. SA even took a test series by a whitewash in India.

    Nothing on this tour hsd indicated that history will not repeat itself. India are always the underdogs in bi-laterals in SA, and on a par with SA in India. The major reason is that, apart from India's greats - Tendulkar, Dravid & Laxman, Indian batsmen are clueless against real pace bowling.

    Whitewash for South Africa

  • on December 13, 2013, 0:27 GMT

    Ishant was indeed very lucky to have picked up 4 wickets in this match. Ishant normally goes wicketless and concedes one of the highest numbers of runs amongst all the Indian bowlers. DK is an upcoming SA batsmen and has established himself as a steady opener. He has hit all the Indian bowlers all over the park and scored 3 consecutive 100s. "LUCKY" I don't think so. I think Ishant should concentrate on his bowling more than saying anything else.

  • bowledout67 on December 17, 2013, 12:34 GMT

    if it weren't for Quinny, i think ishant wouldn't have had the opportunity to make such remarks in the first place as Quinny was responsible for hitting Mohit Sharma out of the attack.....

  • mark2011 on December 14, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    This young DeCock scoring consecutive 3 centuries against so called #1 ODI team is a real shame to India...India is a one sided team that can score in flat tracks so by strategy itself India ignore their bowlers, that works in india,but in abroad that doesnt .hence India cant win a macthes when even ground is provided for bat & ball and this is what happend to such a one sided batting team (not a cricket team),lucky escape from 3-0 white wash thanks to rain God....Good luck SA for rest of the series.

  • Al_Bundy1 on December 13, 2013, 22:27 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is indeed "lucky" to be still playing for India in spite of his mediocre bowling average of 39. In any other country he would have been thrown out long time ago.

  • kbza86 on December 13, 2013, 19:16 GMT

    guys plz tell me how high/low Sanju Samson and Praveen Kumar are ranked in India? we have thought here in SA that Sanju would of broken into that first team by now...plz let us know what you think and Praveen has an amazing ability, you don't think so?

  • Paki-Cricketlover on December 13, 2013, 13:59 GMT

    India's woes continue in south africa...past record in south africa shows the same...well its a wake up call for team India that Cricket is not to be played in India only ...

  • Paki-Cricketlover on December 13, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    Well Ishant was lucky to be still in South africa, after performing poorly in the recent past...raher than Praising Quinty,Ishant's statement shows his mentality...his caliber...that what he is...!!!

  • on December 13, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    I dont think india is a no1 side, just one series win indians go gaga about their abilities, except for south africa, countries like australia and westindies lack the same ability and ferociounes they had in their game as in the early 70`s and 80`ee s. moreover the indian ipl has made some of the foreign players less hostile in India. The greatest player to have played for india was sunil gavaskar and the best fast bowler was jayagal srinath.

  • on December 13, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Guys i hope u didn't forget Ind run chase against Aus fast bowlers in Ind. 350+ in just 45+/- overs. and they repeated in again n again in that series. but then the same team with its all high spirit was getting all out inside the 50 overs and losing by a lead of over 100 runs. (3rd ODI against SA would have been the same story). when Aug was no. 1 they proved it to be no.1 all over the world on any conditions.

  • Greatest_Game on December 13, 2013, 3:24 GMT

    @ gaga001 believes " South Africa can not beat india in india at all because india has improved a lot, i m sure india has learnt a good lesson here and will improve in the coming era."

    In SA in ODIs SA have won 21, India have won 5. In India in ODIs SA have won 10, India have won 13.

    Histroy just repeated itself. India got hammered in SA. No reason to think that things will change when SA pays in India.

    In tests in India, SA have won 5 and India have won 5. They are drawn in tests in India. In SA India have won 2 tests, and SA have won 7.

    SA have completely dominated India in SA, and competed with India on the SC. SA even took a test series by a whitewash in India.

    Nothing on this tour hsd indicated that history will not repeat itself. India are always the underdogs in bi-laterals in SA, and on a par with SA in India. The major reason is that, apart from India's greats - Tendulkar, Dravid & Laxman, Indian batsmen are clueless against real pace bowling.

    Whitewash for South Africa

  • on December 13, 2013, 0:27 GMT

    Ishant was indeed very lucky to have picked up 4 wickets in this match. Ishant normally goes wicketless and concedes one of the highest numbers of runs amongst all the Indian bowlers. DK is an upcoming SA batsmen and has established himself as a steady opener. He has hit all the Indian bowlers all over the park and scored 3 consecutive 100s. "LUCKY" I don't think so. I think Ishant should concentrate on his bowling more than saying anything else.

  • I_Love_My_India on December 12, 2013, 23:46 GMT

    There is a fine line between stupidity and aggression. I think Ishant was definitely not talking in the right spirit. Even Sachin Tendulkar had been lucky many times. His innings against Pak in world cup semi finals is an example.

    It does not matter how a batsman gets runs, but matters how much runs he scored on the board. Eventually, the opposition team has to chase those "edges", "hooks", "dropped catches" etc..

    I think Quinny was more matured and well behaved than the "experienced" Ishant Sharma. I guess Ishant has to call himself lucky to be still in team after the series against Aussies.

  • legfinedeep on December 12, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    @gaga001 - QDK only "accepted" ishant's remarks because he is classy and humble. he could have gone on to make any of the myriad of arguments made on this thread against ishant's stupid jealous remark, but he has better character than that. my respect for him just went up that much higher after his response to this undeserved barb from ishant

  • AH_USA on December 12, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    @gaga001: In the PAK series in IND, may be Sehwag and Gambhir were out of form, but Kohli was in "immense" form and Junaid Khan literally owned him in all matches. So, your transition argument does not hold any ground. I can also argue that in the past few years, PAK has not played enough cricket in general and no cricket at home in particular, and it has some of the worst batsmen that I have ever seen playing for PAK but it was still able to beat IND in India. And please do not indulge yourself too much with how many times IND has defeated PAK in WC matches, which is an undeniable fact but then I will ask you to also take a look at the over ODI and Test record between IND and PAK and you will see where IND stands, which is also an undeniable fact.

  • Desihungama on December 12, 2013, 19:47 GMT

    @gaga001- For your cricketing information the Champions Trophy in England was played on flat, docile pitches much to the surprise of everyone. Even the commentators compared it to pitches in India.

  • Desihungama on December 12, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    Quinton de Kock's score against Pakistan 19, 47 and 15. Quinton de Kock's score against India 135, 106 and 101.

  • gaga001 on December 12, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    ishant is saying nothing wrong as Quinton De Kock has already accepted that remark but India is no.1 side in ODIs, so any defeats will pose some questions on their abilities so players aggression is just intimidative, nd dont forget when Australians were no.1, their players always believed in verbal games together with ground games, that makes them achieve more success, so ishant go on we indians are with u.

  • gaga001 on December 12, 2013, 19:21 GMT

    can anyone tell syed M. Abbas, that no team can become no.1, without defeating champion teams, on a consistent basis, pakistan was lucky to win the series in India in India, because at that time India was in transition face Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir were succumb to pressure of getting out of the team, now do u forget india beat pakistan convinsingly in champions trophy when you have pace battery in the lights of Mohd. Irfan and junaid khan, it was not in India it was in English pace and bouncy conditions, South Africa can not beat india in india at all because india has improved a lot, i m sure india has learnt a good lesson here and will improve in the coming era.

  • on December 12, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    In now a days every wants to play at home because they get positive results bus Pakistan is going outstandingly because recently they beaten india in india and southafrica in southafrica.India have been proved as lions at home but have totally failed against pak at home.And i think rsa is the team who can also beat india in india too.indians are not able to be no 1 because whenever an average good bowling comes against india then indian batting becomes like kenya or canada.

  • on December 12, 2013, 16:37 GMT

    No doubt SA is a world class team whom every team dreams of beating, but I still feel they are in their own bubble....likewise the Indian bubble.....but they have at least won some world tournaments recently with their popgun bowlers....in which SA r yet to prove their mettle with a powerhouse team......

  • aiksa on December 12, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    Please accept the fact that De Kock is a very very talented player and has shown great maturity for his age. Ishant Sharma must know that luck is always a factor in any success not just in cricket. Can he point out any centuries without any chance or luck? Hardly any. Indian team is frustrated for sure for their dismal performance so far but they have only themselves to blame. The better team has won so far and Indian team needs much more luck to do any better in the coming games. Play ball and don't make excuses.

  • Abhishek.2626 on December 12, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    People critisizing de kock need to understand that he has achieved it in SA. where the ptches are not National Highways as in India. And if he bats in India.. I am sure he d score hell lot of runs like the way Miller did in his 1st outing during IPL in India, or what a Shaun Marsh has done. Even Bailey was scoring hundreds at will in the Ind-Aus series, though he is not that consistent elsewhere

    Our wickets do not do justice to a guy like Kohli. Kohli is one batsman who I believe can score anywhere in the world, like a Dravid or Sachin. And its not his fault he plays most of his games of dud tracks. But Rohit Sharma.. I dont think no player in the world was given as many chances as him.

  • on December 12, 2013, 15:37 GMT

    Why so much hullabaloo over this comment?It is a truth that two catches were dropped off him. Even de Kock agreed he was lucky . Why is it a sin to point that out? Or it is because Ishant's team lost series and that's why everyone thinks he said it out of frustration? You have to keep a clear head to see anybody's views in right perspective.

  • on December 12, 2013, 15:07 GMT

    It is always the Luck factor that works for a batsman, whether good or bad! One may just get unlucky to be given out by an umpire and not get his hundreds or one may not be given out and get his hundred,with or without DRS ( The team can lose 2 reviews and not have another till the next 81st over) . The point is without luck you cannot capitalise and Ishant need not have said that, really. de Kock is a good batsman and we have to acknowledge that! He will go a long way.

  • a-fan on December 12, 2013, 15:03 GMT

    @kumarcoolbuddy & others: I don't like Ishant S bowling for solid reasons. However, based on what he said on a particular game about De-Kock is right. India missed two cathces of him and therefore he was lucky on that day.. I don't see anything wrong with that.

    If SA says that India is scared of their bowling, may be they are right too.. we cannot change the truth, can we?

  • on December 12, 2013, 14:55 GMT

    @ kumarcoolbuddy - South Africa have not lost a series away from home for more than 7 years.....

  • kumarcoolbuddy on December 12, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    Ishant Sharma has no right to say if DeCock is lucky and SA has no right to say India is scared of SA's pace and bounce. By giving such statements SA is probably feeling like they are taking revenge for shortening the series. When India prepares turning or flat pitch everyone blames India then what should we say when SA prepared completely bouncy pitch except 3rd ODI? IMO if a team is considered great only if defeats the opponent on opponents' friendly pitches. A team beats India in India, SA in SA, ENG in ENG or AUS in AUS. I definitely agree SA played really well but here SA is clearly taking advantage of India's weakness, inexperience and lack of practice. Top of that giving bold statements like scared, intimidated etc. I don't see any greatness of SA here. Here if India beats SA then India is considered as great team but we have to wait till end of the Test series.

  • dmqi on December 12, 2013, 14:01 GMT

    Ishant badly need a hair cut as that will keep his head cool and cool head can produce result with bat, ball and TALK. Tendulkar has small hair.

  • ASK3 on December 12, 2013, 14:00 GMT

    Let's face it, Indian bowling is not the best in the world. Yes, we have bowlers with talent but they're still young (barring Sharma) and need more experience, the likes of Shami etc. The way De Kock batted after his side slid to 28-3 was brilliant and shows much of his temperment, with that being said, let him play a few matches against more quality opposition bowling and let him rock up more matches before we judge his performances (not taking anything away from his centuries, they were brilliant). The same applies to the likes of Rohit Sharma in tests. While the experience factor cannot be said of Sharma, he is a better bowler overseas. People criticising his recent performances need to understand that those were in Indian conditions where, frankly, the bowlers have nothing. Sharma's comments may or may not have been taken out context, weren't completely right or wrong; yes, De Kock was lucky in getting those chances, but he capitalised on them and that is a huge factor.

  • nlight on December 12, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    De Kock's achievement is impressive for such a young player, although it has to be acknowledged that India doesn't have the best attack. However, he did also get a ton against the more testing Pakistanis, so it can only be a matter of time before he's called up to the test squad, relieving AB of his onerous keeping duties at the same time.

  • on December 12, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Success is being lucky over and over and over again. That is a really thoughtless comment for Ishant to make. Yes he was finding the gaps - because he placed the ball in the gaps. Otherwise every batsman to ever hit a gap is "lucky"... Also, I've seen quite a lot of commentary on how de Kock will be found out because he plays predominantly on the leg side and quite square of the wicket. This reminds me of the criticism of Graeme Smith at the beginning of his career... where he was constantly going to be "found out"... with a test career average of just under 50 and with close to 40 international centuries, I think Smith would be ok with the amount he has been found out... as would QDK if he ends up with those sorts of numbers...

  • rahulbomb on December 12, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    i know may be in Test also we may face same situation. no performance. but guys need time to see and learn. if Decock made 3 centuries in a row, in india rohit,dhawan,kohli were also making so many centuries.

    and although South africa is one of the best team but how many major ODI tournamants it has won.

    very rare not a single world cup even.

  • Prats6 on December 12, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    Ishant is the one who is lucky to be in the side really. After playing 50 odd Test matches he still is beaten by a rookie in the side. As for De Kock, I am not surprised at all with his scoring. For me he was one of the best prospects coming through the under 19's by quite a big margin and good to see him score. I am not sure why he is not in the Test side.

  • SoyQuearns on December 12, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    @linguboy - take a breath mate.

    My point regarding de Kock is that he's a 20 year old kid and he's slaughtered the side who is supposed to be number 1 in the world. Fact.

    India has averaged 182 with the bat, 313 with the ball, and 52.17 runs per wicket in these 3 matches. Fact.

    I don't need to speak to Bradman to know he's the best sportsperson in history. E.g. for Tiger Woods to be Bradman's equivalent he'd have to go around the course in 45 strokes when his nearest rival goes around in 65. Fact.

    My point regarding Bradman was that arguing de Kock's magical, rare performance is all down to luck is akin to arguing against the obvious fact that Bradman is the best sportsperson ever (not just cricketer). As in people can argue against these two points but they are obviously incorrect.

    At no stage did I state de Kock was world class. Fact.

    All I've used are facts to prove my points.

  • on December 12, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Ishant is obviously frustrated that his team couldn't win a game, so he's taking it out on De Kock instead of Rahane and Yuvraj. Ishant was lucky to have played, although he bowled well to take 4 wickets.

    De Kock was outstanding, and what amazes me more than his strokes is his calmness at the crease and the feeling that he belongs to this stage - amazing for a guy who is 20 and has barely played FC cricket. He certainly has a bright future ahead of him, and it seems like Smith's ODI career has been shortened. Finally, well played SA for outplaying India in all 3 departments of the game, and you deserved to win 3-0.

    As for India, I really don't see how they can turn it around from here. None of their batsmen have spent time at the crease, and they lost that opportunity in the 3rd ODI thanks to rain. So unless someone plays an absolute blinder, I don't see them lasting more than 3 days at the Wanderers.

  • chapathishot on December 12, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    What Ishant said was absolutely right,He said about scoring three centuries in a row and not the centuries scored by de kock and if he was caught of any of the chances he could not have scored three centuries and was hence lucky.As people don't consider Kohlis or Rohits score in India as great ,this was in the home conditions for de kock it is also not a great achivement.Let him achive consistenly score outside home then it will be considered an achivement.

    Considering the experience of the team in SA ,they have not done badly

  • on December 12, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    I am De Kock's new fan !

  • on December 12, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    ishant need to get a haircut!!!!!!!!!

  • on December 12, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    Perhaps Ishant Sharma needs to work on his game rather than making comments on opposition batsmen, Ishant shud feel LUCKY himself he still in team after his performances against Aus recently

  • Duidelik on December 12, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    Fanie de Villiers said it best....Ishant Sharma will never be a quality fast bowler, coz he is more concerned about his image off the field. By the way, he should also lose the 80's hairstyle now...its a bit dated! LOL!! Guys, truth of the matter is....SA batters have grown up on a diet of pace bowling, so I do not see the Indian medium pacers giving them sleepless nights. The wickets in SA will not help their spinners. The pace barrage will continue into the tests too. Its just a pity that Marchant de Lange is still injured, coz he can bowl at 155kph, and he is very aggressive! He will genuinely scare the Indian batters with his pace, bounce and intimidation!

  • vxttemp on December 12, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    @GRVJPR: I'm talking about India in tests abroad. BTW, I'm an Indian. I don't think people should take sports achievements so personal. Anyway, that's my opinion and not necessarily have to match with others opinion :-)

  • on December 12, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    India is also lucky that the game has been washed out.Because we were expecting 3-0 for the Indian team..:)

  • Shahid_Shah on December 12, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Well if you can score 3 centuries in a row by luck, you can also 1). Win the World Cup in your own backyard by luck 2). Win the Champions trophy by luck 3). Defeat crushingly teams like Aus, WI in home tests by luck....

    How about that for luck (wry smile :) )....coming from an Indian fan.

  • StaalBurgher on December 12, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    What I don't get is why they don't pick QDK as just a batsmen, either in place of Alviro or Faf, both whom are only average talented players whose top form has passed. Let AB keep if you are unsure about the kid's keeping.

  • Dashgar on December 12, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    Is it just me or do the Indians complain about luck a lot, like it's a real force dominating games. They don't put bad catching down to the fact they are a poor fielding side or the fact he's hitting gaps is that he's in form and the ball is going where he aims.

  • SurlyCynic on December 12, 2013, 10:58 GMT

    @GRVJPR: When SA lose (like against Pakistan recently) I usually just congratulate their fans and look at where my team needs to improve.

    You (and Ishant) should give this approach a try sometime.

  • CricketMaan on December 12, 2013, 10:56 GMT

    Can De Kock and his generation do what Kepler, Hansie, Kirsten, Polly, Smit, AB could not on the BIG stage? And similarly can Rohit, Kholi, Pujara, Shami do what his predecessors can't do in overseas Tests!! Interesting times for both teams.

  • on December 12, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    About drop catches, yes ishant is rightly saying that if they had caught it so it was ok to say that he was lucky on those 2 drops. poor fielding by india.

    But about edges etc, is not right. if you are counting edges which fall on no man land then thats really crazy. you cant have people every where.

  • stormy16 on December 12, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    Is there an end to SA brilliant talent reserves when you consider De Kock is not even a consideration for tests where they have another string of batters waiting in the wings. What's more they also have 2 pace bolwers who took 5fers on their debut test but have never played since because you cant really drop Steyn, Morkel and Vern. There is also Faf that needs to be fitted in to the oneday team and if all that is not enough there is also Kallis and Smith!

    De Kock is an amazing talent and some of the shots he plays tells me he is going to be another AB who as one of the comentators said "has 3 shots for every ball" and hits the ball to all parts. For a guy who is not yet 21 De Kock plays some amazing shots and has a sound technique. What we know from T20's is that he can also be totally destructive so guy is something special and he has only got started.

  • Marktc on December 12, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    Have to love the comments. De Kock scored three hundreds in a row. Yes, he had his luck Virtually every century scored, has ridden on luck. So what is the point? SA players will never get their due from some quarters. De Kock is young, give him a chance to mature and show if he is the real deal.

  • Duidelik on December 12, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    The SA strategy was not rocket science.....target those batters that came over here with subcontinent centuries and great subcontinent averages (i.e. Dhawan and Rohit Sharma) by putting doubt in their minds over how they play genuine pace bowling with balls flying around chest and head height! Also target their best bowlers (Ashwin in particular) and smack them out of the ground off their lengths, and in so doing put doubt in their minds about where their best lengths should be! To those sour grapes out there.....welcome to real cricket wickets and not those sunbaked cabbage patches that ur used to! The only Indian that will get runs against SA here in SA is Kohli! Now that Steyn and Morkel has Dhawan and Sharma's numbers, the next batters that will be targeted in the tests will be Pujara & Vijay. Expect some more ''chin music'' coming at u at 150kph!!!

  • on December 12, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    Ishant, the self-proclaimed Indian fast bowling spearhead, should really look into the mirror. Aus in India and SA in SA have hit him all around the park. Its quite immature of him of calling De Kock "lucky". De kock is young and three back to back centuries deserve a lot of praise. Tendulkar was dropped atleast four times in WC 2011 semi-final, no one called him "lucky" despite being dropped off quality fast bowlers. You drop you pay the price, its not the batsman's fault.

  • Rahul_78 on December 12, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    It is laughable for Ishant to term a guy who has scored 3 back to back 100s to be lucky. It is the ineptitude of the fielders to drop catches not a good luck of the batsmen. De Cock has been all over the Indian bowlers and they should be feeling lucky that he is not selected in the test squad. Also Ishant is quite lucky to have a skipper like MSD and selectors who are backing him after the ones in a life time hiding Faulkner subjected to him in India. On the other hand Yuvraj and Rahane both are outstanding fielders but perhaps the dropped catches reflected their state of mind and it might be playing on their minds that their place in the side is not assured.

  • Vnott on December 12, 2013, 10:09 GMT

    Communication is the issue here. Ishants comment is simply due to the fact that India shd hv taken those catches and prevented De Kock from scoring big in the 3rd one day. If his communication skills were good , he could just have said it is a challenge to bowl to any of the top batsmen in the world or in the SA line up and that he would relish the challenge to bowl to De Kock or anyone who plays.... Ofcourse, any batsman scoring 3 hundreds in a row in any surface is a terrific achievement ....and given that he is still a kid, it is even more impressive.

  • nitingarg25 on December 12, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    Hiiii

    I am a die hard Indian Cricket fan. I am not saying that SA is best or India is worst. The disappointment for me is ...the way we played in the series.

    Guys....Please see other teams performing in India. Recently Oz played well and managed to win two matches and fought in rest of the matches. Where as we as world champions played like club cricket.

    Win or loose doesn't matter however what matter is the respect. Nobody question you when you loose with dignity. I request to all Indian cricket team is to play for pride and show some guts rather than just finding the excuses for not performing

  • AB_DeVilliers on December 12, 2013, 10:02 GMT

    @JustOut - I agree with most of your comments mate. It's amazing to see the lack of respect from the Indian players (Sharma specifically) and many of their supporters commenting here when they were well and truly outplayed. It's one thing to win or lose as it happens all the time, but it shows extreme lack of character when the other team outplays you and you can't say well done. Didn't expect it from the Indian folks but I guess losing hurts too much and overpowers any character they might have.

    I have no doubt 8-0 will become 10-0 in a few weeks time. That will show this team hasn't improved in two years. India, the number 1 test team in the world is waiting for your mediocre team.

  • Testcricketistop on December 12, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    GRVJPR

    doesn't really matter whether you will admit it or not, but Sa is much better than India

    Just compare head to head fixtures and all will be clear.

  • on December 12, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    I accept india played bad cricket . But to all the haters . When India won at home india is a home track bully and if SA WON at home they are world class . if india cant play on bouncy pitches same applies for biggest chokers of cricket they cant play in India or Sri Lanka as well .... Indian haters always have problems whether we won or we lost

  • JustIPL on December 12, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    India fans are making refernce to the six odi series wins and one ICC tournament prior to this near whitewash. ICC tournament was the first after they got rid of non performers and indian youngsters surprised everyone in ICC trophy. Later on a series in WI and ZIM and rest at home. So, they have come against the real opposition in SA and back to their usual performance. In ICC trophy rain saved them and they were very lucky to win a 20-20 where english were neck to neck. Indian batsmen should be easy meal in tests against SA as they tend to apply limited overs techniques in the tests as well.

  • KerneelsMerkII on December 12, 2013, 9:59 GMT

    @GRVJPR He made a 100 in the UAE. On a turner. Against an attack which included Ajmal. Whoopsie, there goes your "1 ball ducker on turning pitches" theory.

  • on December 12, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    To All Indian Supporters yes South Africa must accept that they suck at World Cups but you too must accept that your team cannot deal with deliveries that bounce above their knees

  • on December 12, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    Ishant took 4 wickets and gave only 40 runs after ages, i think that was lucky.

  • black_bird on December 12, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    @GRVJPR. the world would be less entertaining without you mate. of course i agree with you 300%. r. jadeja is far far better than medicore a.b. de villiers, kallis, amla. east or west, india is best. specially at bouncy track.

  • on December 12, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    @linguboy If u say dekock is a home track bully den wat abt sharma dhawan raina wat r de playing on flat tracks n scoring heaps of runs against moderate bowling n u say dese guys e world class.If u goin by records den pls tell me how many ODI n test series india have won in eng sa aus n nz.....Talkn abt Bradman no doubt he is da best ever if u dont agree dis den i guess u dont understand cricket...

  • IndianInnerEdge on December 12, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    To be honest, the young Q De K handled the press conf pretty well, and a humbling sort of manner, also i feel IS's comments have been taken out of context-he was more concerned about moving on....any ways, refreshing to see young players like Q, root, williamson, pujara et all playing with a smile on their faces and not indulging in the boorish behaviour of the several seniors who have attitude to burn....:)

  • Azhar.Hassan on December 12, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    Well well - I think for a 20 year old to score three centuries in a row takes a little bit more than just luck - so give the player some credit. Time will tell how good de Kock is or is not, but he is doing great at the moment. As for the one day World Champion team, just accept that you lost because of poor catching, poor batting and ordinary bowling- no excuses please!

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    @JustOUT, Same for South Africa. Win on square turner in India plus 6 ODI series in a row and a major ICC tournament away from home, then we will respect SA.

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    I will concede that SA is better than India if they win 6 ODI series in a row at home plus any ICC tournament remaining undefeated throughout even at home. First do it then talk.

  • linguboy on December 12, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    @MrGarreth: First of all its Shami who took the wicket of Amla not Ishant. Then for your information if one series can give all the SA fans that DeKock will win SA next WC then why a single good performance from a bowler can't give him confidence???? Why only SA players can make any claim not any Indians???? Devilliers said that he scarred Indian batsmen based on what?????only 2 matches????? How is that logical??? What about the pasting that your bowlers received from us in the CT2013??? Can we say that your team is afraid of India that's why they produced a test track in Wanderers???? In which country the ball continues seaming till the 40th over for the ODIs???? Why not play Imran Tahir???? Is ur team afraid that he will be pasted??????? pls publish.

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    @MrGarreth, It is also funny that how 1 good performance on your home tracks is making De kock think that he is better than Bradman. Let's see how long he can ride his luck. Looking at his technique he is a 1 ball ducker on turning pitches.

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    Law of averages and poor scheduling has cost India this series. You are bound to loose 1 series when you have won 6 series in a row and also a major ICC tournament where India was undefeated throughout. South Africa has gotten away with some funny and filthy pitches. Meanwhile haven't seen a batsmen as lucky as De Kock. First ODI ball fell short of Yuvi, 2nd ODI a healthy edge from Shami failed to reach Ashvin in Slips, Last ODI again missed yuvi. Very lucky.

  • HonestyMatters on December 12, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    Heart-felt congratulations to the young De Kock. Last time we remembered such accolades being showered, in the recent ODI times, were for Joe Root and Shehzad for their mature knocks. I wonder if this is all but too natural for youngsters to show such maturity at such an early age (Perhaps 20 is the new 30). Achieving, as I call it, premature sport-puberty is not uncommon, sustaining this over a period of time evolving into sport-maturity is interesting to watch. In this very interesting piece of stats - http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/records/209994.html - I could only see one individual (have a guess !!), by a far distance, who has ever managed to cross sport-puberty into a sport-adulthood consistently. Can we see Roots, De Kocks, Shehzads creating a new trend.

  • justtogood on December 12, 2013, 9:06 GMT

    TO ALL INDIAN SUPPORTERS - it must be very hard to accept that your no 1 team are getting HUMILIATED like this and folding like a pack of cards but you all need to accept it. And further more I know SA don't do well in world cups, but that has no relevance to this conversation!!! so I suggest you all get over it very quickly cause another HUMILIATION is in the way in the tests!!! India can't play cricket outside of India, just live with it....

  • linguboy on December 12, 2013, 9:02 GMT

    @SoyQuearns: What was that????Supposedly no.1 team???? How many series did you win outside of SA?????? You even lost to NZ and PAK in your home. You lost 4-1 in SL. So stop deluding yourselves and think about your team and their performances. One good series doesn't make them World beaters and one bad series doesn't make a team bad. As far as Ishant is concerned he merely replied to the question posted to him and SA media blew it. Did you spoke with Bradman???? how do you know that he is the best sportsperson in the world?????? How can he termed world class by playing only in Australia and England???? Who are you to say that argument is correct or incorrect????? why are you forcing others to accept that bradman is the best ever????? BRADMAN WAS THE BEST BATSMAN OF HIS ERA. I can't say more than that. Between what prompted you to discuss Bradman in this forum???? let Dekock play for 2 years and then we can decide he is world class or not or he is another home track bully. pls publish.

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:02 GMT

    @ vxttemp, What 10-0?? In between India was undefeated at champions trophy, victories in west indies etc. Ho cunningly you have hidden those facts. What about humiliation of South AFrica in chapions trophy and pakistan at home??

  • Smahuta on December 12, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    Call him a home track bully if you like. If he is, at 20 bullying the number one side in the world to a point where they look like village cricketers I think he will be happy to be called whatever you want to call him. . Well done Quinny, this display was one of the most impressive I have seen from a youngster in many a year. Long may it continue!!!

  • JustIPL on December 12, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    And he joins the elite club having 2 fellow saffers and 3 pakistanis and surprisingly no flat track bully (FTB) made the list of three consecutive 100s even the gavasker's blued eyed chap kohli.

  • GRVJPR on December 12, 2013, 9:00 GMT

    De Kock is just an ordinary player.I have seen him before on A tours on spinning tracks in India. He scored a total of 12 runs in 4 innings. He is just enjoying his home conditions.

  • JustOUT on December 12, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    @linguboy - Greame Smith is a legend in Test cricket. All the centuries he has scored in TEST matches mattered for his country either to WIN or RESCUE(DRAW) a match. SA never lost a MATCH/SERIES whenever Mr. Greame Smith scored a century. Oh.. yeah, he is a legend in 4th innings chase. I don't know where did you retired legend stands here.. all the 50 centuries he has scored are for his name. Not even 10 centuries out of 50 served for either India's win or atleast draw. check you stats.

  • on December 12, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    India cannot produce a world class FAST bowler because of the pitches and attitudes of administrators, captains and fans alike. They love slap bang wallop style of cricket where there is no room for a genuine wicket taking bowler like Styn or Phillander or Anderson. Not even like of Johnson, Junaid Khan, Irfan or Broad. Yes you have Zak but then he is on the only one and he has not done it over a longer period of time. All decent Indian quickies either slow down or break down and for this pitches and administrators are to be blamed as I have no doubt that there is lot of good fast bowling talent in India.

  • irishhawks on December 12, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    Excuse me guys!! please someone ask Ishant Sharma..Who in fact is luckier? A bowler with very ordinary record still manages to be in National Team for 6 years or young batsman smacking this bowler and his fellow team bowlers all around the park and proving to be a match winner for his side unlike this bowler who can take 5 wicket haul once in 5 years..? Ishant Sharma time to look in mirror...

  • HeezowtKort on December 12, 2013, 8:42 GMT

    pity the 3rd match got rained out, would have been interesting to see the India innings against a bowling lineup without Steyn and Morkel

  • MrGarreth on December 12, 2013, 8:38 GMT

    It's funny how one good bowling performance can give you all the confidence in the world to make ridiculous remarks like this. I would understand the comment coming from someone else but from an Indian cricketer, whose own team dropped de Kock, it is a baffling thing to hear. Luck to me is when you are given not out when you clearly are or when you take a wicket from a terrible ball (Like the one Ishant bowled to Amla!). But to call this luck would be like saying Robin van Persie's goals are all lucky because the defenders made errors. You create your own luck fella! de Kock in your head and has made you incompetent and the fact that both Kohli and Ishant have given de Kock a send off after getting him out just shows how ridiculous this all is. The guy just pasted your team all over! No wonder de Kock is laughing...

  • linguboy on December 12, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    I think the SA fans are getting ahead of themselves. Even Martin Guptill scored above 300 runs in a series, did he become a world class batsman???? What about his test performances????Although scoring 3 centuries needed more praise but saying that he will be pain and Indians will be sick of seeing him in the tests is overboard. Zaheer will have him for meat and drink in tests. Ask Greame Smith for doubters. Playing both the pads against spin in front of the stumps and working the ball to the on-side may work well in SA but it will be a huge failure in India. I can't see him doing well in India in TESTS since he have to face spin from ball one and his technique against spin is WEAK if not POOR. Sorry to say this but I will have to wait till he tours India and then we can decide if he is world class or not. upto then he is another HOME TRACK BULLY.pls publish.

  • HebrideanBlack on December 12, 2013, 8:33 GMT

    I think DeKock should be given a chance in the tests he will hardly get a softer team to debut against. ;)

  • Skhalil on December 12, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    Indian players should look at their weakness, instead of point a young fellow, who has bright future. Every players get chances, while playing good knocks. Good players avail those opportunity and make use of them. Indian so call "best batting" have been badly exposed every time they played outside asian countries. Do not forgot 4-0 beat in England & in Australia 2year ago.

  • on December 12, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    Same results for the test matches unless the rain god helps; the other god has already retired.

  • on December 12, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    India are the world champions. South Africa did not even make it to the final in 2003 world cup whereas India made it.Also, remember that the 2003 world cup was held in Africa. South Africa are yet to prove that they do not choke.

  • Testcricketistop on December 12, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur

    Not sure where to begin.

    I am trying to figure out why Sa fans are getting ahead of themselves?

    Can you provide me with statements that SA fans have made that would suggest this? All I have seen is SA fans bemoaning the rotation system and complaining we don't play our best 11.

    As far as the reason why Sa won this series. They did what every other country is supposed to do, prepare pitches that provides something for the batsmen as well as the bowlers

    As for your previous 6 series, not sure what they have to do with this series, but anyhow.

    So you won 6 previous series, don't forget to stats that two of them were against Zimbabwe and West Indies.

  • vxttemp on December 12, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    SA outplayed India in ODIs. 2-0 is starring at India which means 10-0. Not a great record to have and that too being around 1 or 2 in tests/ODIs. At least they show some fight will be a huge bonus.

  • JustOUT on December 12, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur - Boss, the team will be respected only when they win the series outside of the home condition. What happened to your same team when they 8-0 in TESTS against ENG & AUSSIES. They reached no.1 in Test by playing at home from 2009 - 2011, once they started overseas tour in 2011 the real pic and capacity came out. Any team can beat any other team in the home conditions. SA never lost a TEST series in away since 2006.

  • DanishNaseer on December 12, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    welcome to international cricket India !

  • legfinedeep on December 12, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    ponting was ishant's bunny? hahaha now i have heard it all. post of the day, dude. you indian fans are hilarious. the only reason the world's worst test bowler (50 or more tests) got out one of the worlds greatest batsman ever a few times in a row, is because the rest of the indian bowling side is as weak, so who else is there left to take his wicket

  • on December 12, 2013, 7:35 GMT

    Ishant and all his type of Indian players should learn from the legendary Dhoni and Tendulkar! Tendulkar is already gone but Dhoni is still available for their learning!

  • on December 12, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    Indian Fans just cant accept the defeat instead they r making some lame excuses. De Kock is a real talent, he scored a century against us in UAE which proves his skills and temprament. He is a real talent and long way to go.

  • Gupta.Ankur on December 12, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    It seems some SA fans are getting too ahead of themselves. We must remember that this indian team has achieved the no.1 status by not panicking in ICC tournaments but by consistently winning series after series and therefore deserve respect.

    As for ishant yes he maybe a bad bowler but you cannot wish away the truth by making fun of someone.

    SA won this series simply because of the "extra" seamer friendly pitches they prepared specifically for the best odi batting line-up in the game and because India didn't have time to prepare.

    Also, it would be highly un-wise to read too much into 2 matches when a team has won 6 odi tournaments on a trot.

  • SumitBhardwaj on December 12, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    A competition among all bowlers - to hit a target at full tilt. All the bowlers managed to hit it except Ishant Sharma. The spectators fainted after seeing the umpire declare that a wide. Why - because the target was Qutub Minar!!!

    This dude masquerading as a "fast" bowler thanks to an equally inept captain calls other people lucky - seriously!!!

    In a way he is right - they are lucky to have this bloke bowling to them. I cant think of any batsman starting from the 5th standard of every school across the world who would not be padding up to face this bowler and improve his / her average!!! What a joke he is - I am sure Kapil coming out of retirement can bowl better than this tall packet of incompetency!!!

  • AussiePhoenix on December 12, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    Ishant = tool. He's lucky to be in the team. Wonder how lucky he will feel when the SA batsmen tonk him to all parts of the ground.

  • on December 12, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    As an Indian fan, I have to absolutely agree with SoyQuearns. Ishant has quickly opened his mouth after one good performance. The last good performance was 5 years back. So Instead of looking at how lucky De Kock is , It might do him well if he looks at his own unlucky performances. He calls himself the pace spearhead. He bowled the same length balls at same pace to James Faulkner during his infamous 30 run over. If anybody has been lucky that is Ishant himself because in other countries he would not have been part of the team in the first place.

  • sachin_vvsfan on December 12, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    Oh Common. He was just responding to question about dekock's presence and he was indeed lucky (whether Indian batsmen were also lucky or not is a different question and is irrelevant to SA batting strength) not just for this century but in the first match as well.

    And Yes scoring 3 tons against this Indian bowling might not reveal the whole picture. From what i see this young man has got talent and also weakness so give his time for tests

  • soumyas on December 12, 2013, 6:51 GMT

    @SoyQuearns, Nice work on Ishant's perforamance. He is lucky to find a place in team, BCCI has manipulated the series to facilitate 200th test for Sachin in Mumbai, but BCCI is unable to find a better bowler than Ishant Sharma.

  • Fast_Track_Bully on December 12, 2013, 6:51 GMT

    Ishant played the ODI bowling of his lifetime. I can see the glimpse of an old Ishant -who make Ponting as his bunny -from this performance. If he can do hard work like this performance, he will be a lethal weapon. One thing is sure, if he can maintain this standard in tests too, it will be tough for no:1 test side.

  • on December 12, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    It is a fact that the mighty Indian batsmen have been shown up again as "flat track bullies" Not much should be read into their batting averages as the majority of those runs were scored in India. The true test of any player is to score runs away from your home conditions. This has unfortunately been the true failing of many Indian teams before.

  • Testcricketistop on December 12, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    Biggyboy2457 -"Virat Kholi and Rohit Sharma are far better than any batsman in SA."

    Based on what?

    Kohli averages 41 in tests Kohli average 51 at home in tests Kohli averages 29 away from home in tests

    Kohli averages 51 in ODI's Kohli averages 47 away from home in ODI's Kohli averages 52 at home in ODI's

    Rohit sharma has played 2 tests at home against WI, WOW? Rohit Sharma averages 36 in ODI's Rohit Sharma averages 58 at home in ODI's Rohit sharma averages 27 away from home in ODI's

    You want to say they are better than all SA batsmen.

    Look at de Villiers and Amla for a start.

    You need to do some research before you make brave statements like that.

  • wakaPAK on December 12, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    Did Ishant really said it? I think I just diagnosed his problem; I think he should get out of this 'lucky/unlucky' mentality; his entire career he's been told by Indian media that he's been unlucky and that has served to arrested his growth as a fast bowler. A typical bowler commits mistakes and he's thrown out of the team and he comes back free of those errors which he used to commit. In Ishant's case he's been given chances and being told that he was 'unlucky' and that he could not do anything about it and that's why he did nothing about correcting his shortcomings as a bowler. While this was supposed to give him confidence but this his changed his personality altogether; now he sees everything in terms of luck, case in point, he thinks QDK's centuries were because he got lucky; now if QDK was playing tests I'd have thought he was trying to get under QDK's skin that's why he said it but that's not the case so he's got some real issues.

  • AB_DeVilliers on December 12, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    I'm not sure whether this shows the mental state of the Indian team, or whether Ishant just lacks the character and maturity to say well played. I've heard Ishant speak previously and he struggles to articulate properly, so perhaps it's the latter. Nevertheless, poor comments from a poor bowler. India hammered 2-0 with no fight at all. I would be embarrassed to call a team with these performances world champions...atrocious. Can't wait for Aus to get to SA, atleast they will pose a challenge.

  • on December 12, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    We accept the loss and will think on our improvement when it comes to deliver on fast and bouncy pitches outside subcontinent , this is a new young Indian team travelled and hope they learned how to adapt on these surfaces .I would like to thank De kock for his masterful act , a great job done . But on contrary SA is not a world class team even ,they never had any ICC tournament Cup. SA team is better known as worst pressure handlers worldwide ,their team also been demolished in past on regular basis mostly in India .I hope they scan themselves before pointing harsh finger on Indian team.

  • Katey on December 12, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    Luck is part of all sports, so to say de Kock was lucky is not saying anything really, just stating the obvious. All bowlers and batsmen get some good luck at times, and some bad luck too.

    At any rate I admire his growing maturity, especially his humble acceptance that he won't be included in the Test XI. He has shown his potential - now to sharpen and develop it, and reduce the element of luck. Good for him that he accepts that.

    I see he celebrates his 21st birthday next Tuesday ... hope he has a grand party! Someone should give him some shaving gear as a present ... I see "Babyface" is getting a black mustache. Certainly he is maturing in all senses of the word.

  • SoyQuearns on December 12, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    I used Cricinfo's brilliant Statsguru system to filter into Ishant Sharma.

    I filtered bowler's, in reverse order, who have played 50+ tests and taken 100+ wickets (to iron out all-rounders or part-timers, well, most of them).

    The list it spat out has Giles the worst average of a specialist bowler (I know Gile-o held a 20 average with the bat, but was picked as a bowler) at 40.60, Embury was next (he too could bat a bit, but was picked as a specialist bowler) with an average of 38.40.

    Next on the list is Ishant "37.99" Sharma, who cannot bat. He's THE worst paceman, in terms of average, for specialist bowlers who've played 50+ tests.

    He got $950K for IPL when he was 19 and in 6 years has just 69 wickets (in 88 games) at an average of 35. His average at international t20 is 50.

    The worst test paceman with 50+ tests. In history. Making millions of USD.

    And yet he accuses this talented kid who has shredded all and sundry on this disastrous tour (for India) of being lucky?

    Seriously.

  • on December 12, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    @soumyas, he has a hundred against Pakistan, they have a good bowling attack

  • truecric_fan on December 12, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    3 Hundreds in a row by a 20 year old, first of which on a track that assisted bowlers and where India failed miserably, the third when SA were down by 3 early wickets - this is not luck but Genius. I have no respect for Ishant Sharma and his mediocrity.He has made a big fool of himself with his immature and shallow comments. Now beware the red ball Worlds #1 Team.

  • Testcricketistop on December 12, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    @vish2020 "Just like subcontinent fans shouldn't make their players heroes unless they perfrom overseas, let's see how mr. de kock does in india, srilanka pitches against our bowlers. Then i will think of him seriously."

    I am pretty sure De Kock won't have sleepless nights about whether you rate him or not.

  • Testcricketistop on December 12, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    @gupta.ankur "DeKock has been lucky and he is one of those players who have a temporary rush of form and then they are back to their normal performance levels."

    You could almost be mistaken for being Ishant.

    More wishful thinking than an opinion based on any fact.

  • SA_FAN315 on December 12, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    It's simple ....if you are incapable of cataching a cricket ball then your're lucky to be playing cricket in the first place....just like how de kock mentioned (sarcastically) droping VIRAK KHOLI on 2 at the press confrence in the first game and then VIRAT making a 100 opus i mean 30 odd runs...it's silldy to mention all these things....

    See AB devlire's catch and also Amla's catch .... compared to india's dropped chances ....

    Cricket isn't simply about batting and bowling ISHANT it's about good feilding also

  • apoorvasah on December 12, 2013, 5:57 GMT

    Do Ishant Sharma knows the meaning of being lucky? Perhaps he is being one of the most lucky considering his performance he is still gets the support of his captain and the Board. As far as De Cock is considered he played fantastic knocks (all 3 odis)...dropped catches some wrong umpiring are all part n parcel of the game..these cannot take away the sheen of a good/ great inning...the fact he dominated the bowling all thru the ODIs speaks volume of his talent, hope he carries this form all the way..

  • Biggyboy2457 on December 12, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    SoyQuearns, sorry what was it?? India is the Number 1 ODI team. I agree that De kock did a brilliant job but still there is a difference between South Africa and the Champions. Virat Kholi and Rohit Sharma are far better than any batsman in SA. Even though De kock is very young and plays very well I am 100% sure that he cannot achieve anything like Virat Kholi did. We were hosts in SA, so it was obvious that they would win. Our bowlers are just not in form now. Hope you remember what Ravindra Jadeja, Ashwin and Ishant Sharma did in the Champions Trophy.

    Ishant Sharma just improved due to his hard work, not lucky. Every bowler will have bad moments in their life. For example Dale Steyn, Mitchell Johnson and Stewart Broad used to be terrible. But look at them now. We still have time to improve for the World T20 and World Cup in 2k15.

    WE ARE THE WORLD CHAMPIONS!

  • pitch_curator on December 12, 2013, 5:53 GMT

    @ legfinedeep - Decock played for our team SRH in the IPL and if I remember he scored two ducks in around 4 matches, looks completely out of depth before he was dropped for the rest of the season. Not everyone who scores well in Aus/SAF can score well in India.

  • AltafPatel on December 12, 2013, 5:53 GMT

    Sharma is lucky to be in place of out of form Bhuveneshwar Kumar !

  • sray23 on December 12, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    I think it has been proven that statistically, Ishant Sharma is the worst bowler ever to play 50 Tests. And he is saying someone else is 'lucky'?!?!?!

  • on December 12, 2013, 5:45 GMT

    Huge relief for us. De Cock is not the part of Test Squad

  • legfinedeep on December 12, 2013, 5:41 GMT

    @gupta.ankur "DeKock has been lucky and he is one of those players who have a temporary rush of form and then they are back to their normal performance levels." >>> you mean, kinda like dhawan and rohit?

    @nampally:"To be fair to Ishant, he was right on. Fielding lapses cost India dearly.">>> so then, shouldn't he say that Indian team fielding was pathetic rather than saying QDK was lucky? I think that would have been the more accurate assessment.

  • soumyas on December 12, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    Scoring against India is like scoring against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe, because Indian bowling attack is weak and rank very low with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. In the history of cricket most players have found their FORM back against India, Indian team is for giving confidence to OUT of FORM players and teams. So 3 consecutive century doesn't make de Kock great, He will fail against other teams.

  • on December 12, 2013, 5:34 GMT

    Mr Ishant 'pretend fast bowler' Sharma please understand that it is not luck if the opposition drop a catch, its poor play by them. It's also not luck if the ball goes between fielders, that's whats meant to happen silly, that's how runs are scored. I understand that it must hurt the ego quite a bit when a mere 'slip' of a boy takes three consecutive centuries off 'the pop gun' Indian bowling attack (which you are lucky to be part of), but showing a little grace and giving credit where credit is due is always a good thing to do.

  • Andre117 on December 12, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    Every batsman, including Bradman, Tendulkar, Kallis, Dravid, can then be described as being "lucky". How many of the hundreds these players scored includes being dropped early on? Those things aren't recorded so we will never know how "lucky" they were. Does that take away from the fact that they were great players? No. Does Quinny being lucky take away from the fact that he is ridiculously talented. No. It's not just my word, all the commentators and others who have written about him agree with me. He might not get his test chance now, but he will get it and I will bet a lot of money on the fact that 15 years down the line he will be spoken of like Boucher, Gilchrist, Sangakarra and other great keeper batsmen. I believe if he was a specialist batsman he would have a better chance to play tests as Tsolekile is (unfairly) placed in front of him in the keeper-batsman queue and the selectors are not considering him as a specialist batsman.

  • Akash_23 on December 12, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    Being an Indian fan, I can say that this comment from Ishant is really immature and disheartening. You cannot just say this type of a thing in a press conference, that too when your team has shown such an embarrassing performance in front of a young talent. A few top edges or the odd dropped catch can always be there, but you need to give credit where it is due. After all, it has been a world record performance! And to add, Kudos to de Kock for showing such maturity both on and off the field!

  • legfinedeep on December 12, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    @vish2020 "Just like subcontinent fans shouldn't make their players heroes unless they perfrom overseas, let's see how mr. de kock does in india, srilanka pitches against our bowlers. Then i will think of him seriously." >>> chances are he will do even better in India, given the fact that all the other SA batters have higher averages in India, than they do in SA. In fact, if Amla, de Villiers had Indian pitches as their home grounds, they could well have close to double their averages. But not just batters, even Steyn's performance record in India is better than his anyway illustrious overall career records.

  • Albert_cambell on December 12, 2013, 5:00 GMT

    Yup. De kock is lucky to face a legendary fast bowler(who can never be produced by any team in the world) like Ishant, who gave all-rounder status to Aussie tail-ender batsman Faulkner. How can we forget his match winning performances(for the Aussies) with the ball during that series.

  • SajidC on December 12, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    Ishant is the luckiest person in the Indian team...he's been in the team so far just because only 1 performance in Aus....go on Mr. Ishant....

  • Gupta.Ankur on December 12, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    I think lot of people despite their laughs have been stung by Ishant's honest remark and its no where written that a bowler in bad form cannot speak the right thing.

    DeKock has been lucky and he is one of those players who have a temporary rush of form and then they are back to their normal performance levels.

    Further more i would say SA have won the series partly due to excessive seaming tracks they prepared for India in stark contrast to one's generally seen in odi's in SA and poor scheduling by the BCCI.

    Had Indian board had the better sense of providing some practise games for the team the result would have been a lot different.

  • on December 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    indian team is Very strong in at Home only they can not play bouncy pitches like SA AUS, NL ENG there are hero in Asian Plate Pitches scoring 300 + chasing 350+

  • Naresh28 on December 12, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    De Kock, AMLA, Steyn and De villiers these players have been outstanding for SA. Indian players should desist from brainless commenting - De Kock is WONDERFUL player!!!

  • anver777 on December 12, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    WOW !!! what a knock by Kock !!!!!!!! if he keeps scoring only tons like this, then Sachin's record is in danger !!!!

  • on December 12, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    And ishant you were actually playing in the 11 not bcos of ur potential rather because Dhoni did not have any other options in the 15 since all other bowlers were pathetic. and wat the guy de cock did is something phenomenal whether it is good luck or bad luck ...

  • on December 12, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    My dear ishant sharma - he is atleast lucky to get tat 100, but u should feel lucky to actually be in the team or rather the squad and play for the country. you r the worst fast bowler tat india has seen in the last decade. from what you did in australia in the commonwealth bank series with so much accuracy and 140k speed, ur performance has hit the worst regressive curve. and it is quite ironical and funny tat u speak about someone else's luck when u have it in abundance. just concentrate on wat u have to do better.

  • HighwayToHell on December 12, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    Lucky?? Well, Ishant should consider himself lucky to have taken that many wickets in one game. He should say they got lucky because of the rain intervention. Lucky they won't have to bowl at the young kid in Tests. "Lucky" is definitely the word!!

  • Anil_Koshy on December 12, 2013, 3:59 GMT

    Nobody can be lucky thrice, he has got talent plus Indian bowling was below average, Indian bowling really lack sting, they are really weak in both pace and spin. Ashwin is not a good bowler at all,he can be there in the side as an all rounder in place of Jadeja. India should find a replacement for Anil Kumble and Harbhajan Singh. In pace bowling department, there is nobody after Zaheer to carry on the legacy.

  • on December 12, 2013, 3:56 GMT

    Kock was indeed twice lucky and made the most of it. With this kinda catching expect 2-0 in tests too. Not sure what the fielding coach is doing as this had been going on for a while now.

  • Biggus on December 12, 2013, 3:51 GMT

    It's a slippery slope when on starts to point at the opposition and talk about luck. What might India's score in the first ODI have been had Kohli and Dhoni not both been dropped when they first came to the wicket?

  • Fast_Track_Bully on December 12, 2013, 3:50 GMT

    De Kock were lucky and India were unlucky. On a wicket which suited for batting and no Steyn against them, it was a good opportunity for India. Anyway, Bowlers did well and got some confidence before the test series. It will be a BIG mistake by SA to avoid inform De Kock from test side.

  • on December 12, 2013, 3:39 GMT

    I'm sorry but who is Ishant Sharma to say that someone is lucky? The fact that he is still in the team is beyond lucky, it's a miracle...

  • JustOUT on December 12, 2013, 3:32 GMT

    Really looking forward for the Test series. I am baffled on how the Team India Fans are rating their team in Test series. Against the world no.1 who achieved by winning series away from home, instead how India reach no.2 by winning series only at home. It will be really fun to watch the over hyped young indian batsmen facing Steyn, Philander and then Morkel.. LOL!!!! SA should go for all pace with Rory instead of any spinners.

  • Desihungama on December 12, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    Yeah! He's lucky alright. He's been lucky scoring centuries but I suppose not as lucky as Mr. Ishant who has been honoring fetching balls for him.

  • on December 12, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    India was lucky that rain arrived at the right time & saved India from a 3-0. Really bowling was pathetic, on bowling pitches SA scored run a ball in every game. The story wont change even in test matches. Batsmen really need to concentrate hard & try to play longer innings instead of just trying to flash their bat. Rahane should be given a chance ahead of jadeja in first test. Zak will be back along with shami & yadav/ishant. Ashwin is a good no. 8 batsman so likely to retain his spot in spite of fast bowling conditions. Really difficult for dhoni to select his XI from this bunch of 17. All will struggle but this is the beauty of test matches you have to hang in there. try to play over by over session by session.

  • sandy_san on December 12, 2013, 3:04 GMT

    I think it is other way round. Ishant is lucky to get 4 for amidst his run leaking career.

  • PENlS on December 12, 2013, 2:36 GMT

    Ishant's lucky too. Lucky he's even in South Africa

  • vish2020 on December 12, 2013, 2:25 GMT

    Just like subcontinent fans shouldn't make their players heroes unless they perfrom overseas, let's see how mr. de kock does in india, srilanka pitches against our bowlers. Then i will think of him seriously.

  • on December 12, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    Sour grapes from Ishant. Instead of putting down the young lad, he should concentrate on his own performance. As a so called spear head fast bowler, he has been awful. De Kock, completely dominated all the bowlers this series and displayed, how to bat in SA.

  • on December 12, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    De kock should have said Ishant is lucky to be playing in the match

  • rohanbala on December 12, 2013, 2:11 GMT

    It is Ishant Sharma who should consider himself "lucky" to be in the Indian team!

  • AH_USA on December 12, 2013, 2:00 GMT

    A piece of advice for Sharma, be generous and don't be arrogant. If he was angry because of dropped catches then take it out on your team mates but praise De Kock for the innings that he has played.

  • JustOUT on December 12, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    haha... The whole cricketing world is laughing at this guy - Ishant who still lives on past glory(the one over he bowled to Ponting in Perth). I still remember, Mr.Prasad the then India bowling coach saying Ishant is the find and future of Indian fast bowling. When i recently read that he is the leader of the Indian pace attack, I was rolling on my floor.. LOL.

  • nkoch on December 12, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    How about Ishant Sharma getting lucky with those wickets?

  • ProdigyA on December 12, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    Cock is a fine talent but there is no doubt that he did get very lucky today and made the most of it. Two lives to a guy who is in form is terrible from India and not the hallmark of a No.1 team. Not sure what the fielding coach is teaching them but off late India's catching has been terrible. If this type of catching continues expect 2-0 in tests too.

  • on December 12, 2013, 1:29 GMT

    India must play most of the series ( t20/ODI/Test) to keep the good team status.

  • on December 12, 2013, 1:28 GMT

    DE Kock is ready for Test Cricket. He can easily replace Smith. Hope South Africa identify another youngster and develop him for replacing Kallis, by the time the great Kallis decides to retire.

    I have no doubt in my mind that South Africa is the top Cricketing nation in the world for quite some time. If they groom & Induct more youngsters like de Kock, they will continue to be so.

  • on December 12, 2013, 1:20 GMT

    Haha good job Ishant i guess they need to be reminded the hammering they faced when they toured India. Every team has its strength and weaknesses. They faced a humiliating defeat when they toured india in 2010. If their strength is pitches with pace and bounce, our's is pitches that provide batsman a good surface to bat on and there is nothing to be ashamed of. Anyways QDK was lucky as he was dropped a couole of times.

  • Dhanno on December 12, 2013, 1:19 GMT

    again showing petty side of indian cricketers..their own batsman plunder runs on flat tracks against hapless bowling and that is considered great batting. nd 20 yr old kid gets 3 centuries in row and now thats luck.. wow ishant, u keep the proud tradition of gambhir kohli going on.

  • on December 12, 2013, 1:03 GMT

    de cock can play in big bash,hope he does

  • on December 12, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    This "scarring their batters" remark is in vogue now. Johnson and Warner made earlier against English batsmen and now the SA ODI captain. Not quite sure, if it is one of the mind games played of late. We don't have bowlers are really, really quick say bowling over 150 kmph consistently like erstwhile Marshall, Thompson or even Lee and Akthar. Bowling at 140 and few bouncers does not need to necessarily scare any international batsmen.

  • on December 11, 2013, 23:35 GMT

    when will ishant learn. Everytime he has a good couple of games he starts making headlines. what happens next - he is ordinary for the next year. He should focus on his bowling. His seam and wrist position is absolutely horrible now. focus on that not media. Hope India considers this sign and not choose him for test series.

  • sudhir98 on December 11, 2013, 23:26 GMT

    i do believe the smirking south Africans will be taken down a couple of notches once tests start. India will have time to get used to the batting conditions and shami,ishant,yadav,zaheer will be a handful.

  • drnaveed on December 11, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    well played de kock . he deserves to be given a chance in test series as well.

  • on December 11, 2013, 23:03 GMT

    Third time lucky eh Ishant! oh to be that lucky....

  • sharadgargconnect on December 11, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    DeKock you don't worry. You are better batsman than Tendulkar, Ganguly,Ponting,Viv Richards,Gavaskar,Smith, Kallis and Lara. These guys together couldn't get 3 consecutive hundreds in odi. And what a timer of the ball you are! You really hit 3 centuries without any flaw. Ishant Sharma is a donkey. He is a bowler. Let him say anything. This indian team is on a path of defeat due to their attitude. Today- SA would have won 3rd consecutive odi if rain was not in between. Today, I bet India won't win world cup 2015. Indian bowlers cannot stop giving 300 runs in any game they play and they are passing comments on merit. Dekock is an excellent left handed batsman.

  • on December 11, 2013, 22:28 GMT

    Excellent batsman! :) best of luckk bud!

  • coldcoffee123 on December 11, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    Great to see a young cricketer scoring massive runs, consistently, in difficult batting conditions. We have seen Tendulkar, Dravid, Inzaman, Kirsten brothers, Langer, Slater over the years. Well done Kock.

  • legfinedeep on December 11, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    Ishant>>>I think he was lucky. De Kock>>>I think he was telling the truth (said while laughing). I just think those two statements above reveal so much about the respective characters of the people who said them. Well done, QDK - you have shown immense character and talent. Don't get put down by begrudging, unsportsmanlike remarks. It's not as if you are the first batsman ever to go on to make a century after being dropped. If the opposition dropped an easy chance that you presented, then I think it is more that they are inept and not suited for international level cricket, rather than you being lucky.

  • on December 11, 2013, 22:11 GMT

    so we can say that ishant was lucky to pick 4 wickets. catches win matches its up to the fielding team to hold on to them de kock cant just offer his wicket on the plate can he india were lucky that it rained

  • likeintcricket on December 11, 2013, 22:09 GMT

    I would say not putting him in the Test is a mistake. With DeKock, Amla, Smith, Kallis, De villiers and the company it is hard for India to take full 10 wickets. I think no player can be more deserving than him in the Test.

  • on December 11, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    ishant sharma is a 3rd class club level bowler i thiink he is lucky that he is born in india otherwise he wud have never played international cricket as a fast bowler in any other country as a fast bowler like pak,aus, sa etc...he should be ashamed of saying anything about de kock coz he played indian bowlers like some 1 plays a kid bowling at him ...and evrything is clear in front of whole world indian team is just good on home soil making flat batting wickets that assists there 3rd grade spinners who are no where to be seen in african condition unlike ajmal, afridi n hafeez who perform on any wicket i think indian team is over rated coz they play 80% matches at home they do not deserve to be no 1 its just that there board is influential that is to there advantage otherwise ther are a ordinary side and that is proved

  • on December 11, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    thias guy would surely bat better than alviroo petersen...

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:59 GMT

    de kock has an average of 55 in first class cricket,but has astrike rate of 80. This shows that he is verymuch aone dy player. I dont think that south africa would want to consider another batsman to their test squad,butrather a spinner.Simon harmer would be a perfect choice.

  • KARNAWAT33 on December 11, 2013, 21:58 GMT

    I don't think Ishant Sharma will be taken seriously in his life ever again. Also, I can't wait to see Ishant bowl in Tests against the likes of Smith, Amla and ABDV, let's see how LUCKY he can get then?!

  • sixesandfours on December 11, 2013, 21:48 GMT

    Well Played De Kock. Keep playing and you have a good prospect for SA. Well bowled Ishant and keep bowling the right lengths nd you have a long way to go for India. Build up strength and good diet and excercise to build the muscles. You along with Zaheer, Yadav and Shami can make india proud by competing Overseas conditions. India, Keep these 4 in your first test against SA starting next week. Spinners does not play much part in SA and keeping Ashwin in a bench is an ideal with 4 pacers and Jadeja in team will give solid strength. PLay XI for India - 1. Dhawan 2.Vijay 3.Pujara 4.Dhoni 5. Kohli 6. Rohit 7. Jadeja 8. Zaheer 9. Shami 10. Ishant 11. Yadav. Best wishes to both the teams. God Bless!!!

  • pascoalf1 on December 11, 2013, 21:43 GMT

    De Kock does remember that this was, "one of the harder hundreds of these last three," and not only because of the conditions. South Africa had been in trouble at 28 for 3 and de Kock did not have the support of Hashim Amla in this game. He said the innings - 101 off 120 balls - showed how he had matured "I think I have grown a lot," he said. "My confidence was never there before. It has grown a lot. My work ethic has grown as well."

  • Capricorn60 on December 11, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    Even though I am an Indian fan, De Kock deserves all the luck as he batted very well throughout these three matches & showed amazing maturity for a 20 year old!

  • Nampally on December 11, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    To be fair to Ishant, he was right on. Fielding lapses cost India dearly. Giving De Kock 2 chances is luxury India cannot afford. Both were easy catches especially that of yuvraj- so much time to position & catch it. Yuvraj also failed to take a high catch of de Velliers. The match would have been definitely swung in India's favour had either of De Kock's catch was held. So Ishant Sharma was right on. Those were crucial catches which may have cost India the only Win! Actually the heading that De Kock laughed it off is incorrect because De Kock himself admitted he was lucky! At least Amla's catch was not dropped. He too had two lives in ODI #1. Today his run out was missed. Indians did not play well but with their fielding lapses they looked totally out played. It was just these openers who carried SA in batting along with De veilliers. When mid order was exposed after an early wicket, SA batting looked suspect!

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:15 GMT

    Just shows the virtues of a breakthrough innings at any level of the game.Two massive factors for batsmen are a breakthrough innings and spending time at the crease.Thats when the feet start moving.clarity of thought and confidence increase.

  • craigals on December 11, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    Mark my words... "Quinny will be the greatest wicketkeeper/batsman of all time"

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    This is the reason i only like Dhoni in inidan team, no other player know how to talk to press and how to talk about other team players. I mean yes Dekock was lucky but that's not his fault he score 100 again. I mean other than 2 drop catches he batted with care and when it was time to hit he hit with great timing. Ishant will remain old 90s indian who never appreciate opponent team. Sad Ishant.

    I like the attitude of AB Deviliers that never satisfy about your performance because with that mind set you can set new world records with ease. Great effort by SA

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    De Kock being lucky, talk about taking positives from worst case scenario, if you ask me India is lucky De Kock wont be playing in tests

  • the_blue_android on December 11, 2013, 21:03 GMT

    Can someone put a leash on the 'spearhead' of the Indian bowling 'attack'?

  • SCC08 on December 11, 2013, 21:02 GMT

    Have some respect Ishant Sharma! If anybody was lucky, it was you getting wickets... Luck doesn't bring 3 consecutive 100's against the number 1 ranked team in the world. All of this under the age of 21. Give the kid some respect! You need to have a look in the mirror, learn a bit of PR and give credit when necessary. Surelyy someone like yourself who gets too much credit should know this. Bad taste..

  • on December 11, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    Dropped catches may be luck , but blasting the bowling of a one day side that is ranked no.1 isnt. South Africa have found a good talent and im sure he will play even better in the flat pitches.

  • bouncer709 on December 11, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    Zaheer Abbas, AB Devlier, De Cock, All they scored 3 consecutive hundreds against India.... Gibs and Saeed Anwar scored against another teams However Gibs one century was still against India.

  • vineet_27 on December 11, 2013, 20:44 GMT

    Ishant Sharma needs counseling as instead of congratulating deKock, he makes a comments about being lucky. A lucky person cannot score three centuries in a row. De Kock is exactly what Ishant is not.. Consistency

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  • vineet_27 on December 11, 2013, 20:44 GMT

    Ishant Sharma needs counseling as instead of congratulating deKock, he makes a comments about being lucky. A lucky person cannot score three centuries in a row. De Kock is exactly what Ishant is not.. Consistency

  • bouncer709 on December 11, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    Zaheer Abbas, AB Devlier, De Cock, All they scored 3 consecutive hundreds against India.... Gibs and Saeed Anwar scored against another teams However Gibs one century was still against India.

  • on December 11, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    Dropped catches may be luck , but blasting the bowling of a one day side that is ranked no.1 isnt. South Africa have found a good talent and im sure he will play even better in the flat pitches.

  • SCC08 on December 11, 2013, 21:02 GMT

    Have some respect Ishant Sharma! If anybody was lucky, it was you getting wickets... Luck doesn't bring 3 consecutive 100's against the number 1 ranked team in the world. All of this under the age of 21. Give the kid some respect! You need to have a look in the mirror, learn a bit of PR and give credit when necessary. Surelyy someone like yourself who gets too much credit should know this. Bad taste..

  • the_blue_android on December 11, 2013, 21:03 GMT

    Can someone put a leash on the 'spearhead' of the Indian bowling 'attack'?

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    De Kock being lucky, talk about taking positives from worst case scenario, if you ask me India is lucky De Kock wont be playing in tests

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:07 GMT

    This is the reason i only like Dhoni in inidan team, no other player know how to talk to press and how to talk about other team players. I mean yes Dekock was lucky but that's not his fault he score 100 again. I mean other than 2 drop catches he batted with care and when it was time to hit he hit with great timing. Ishant will remain old 90s indian who never appreciate opponent team. Sad Ishant.

    I like the attitude of AB Deviliers that never satisfy about your performance because with that mind set you can set new world records with ease. Great effort by SA

  • craigals on December 11, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    Mark my words... "Quinny will be the greatest wicketkeeper/batsman of all time"

  • on December 11, 2013, 21:15 GMT

    Just shows the virtues of a breakthrough innings at any level of the game.Two massive factors for batsmen are a breakthrough innings and spending time at the crease.Thats when the feet start moving.clarity of thought and confidence increase.

  • Nampally on December 11, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    To be fair to Ishant, he was right on. Fielding lapses cost India dearly. Giving De Kock 2 chances is luxury India cannot afford. Both were easy catches especially that of yuvraj- so much time to position & catch it. Yuvraj also failed to take a high catch of de Velliers. The match would have been definitely swung in India's favour had either of De Kock's catch was held. So Ishant Sharma was right on. Those were crucial catches which may have cost India the only Win! Actually the heading that De Kock laughed it off is incorrect because De Kock himself admitted he was lucky! At least Amla's catch was not dropped. He too had two lives in ODI #1. Today his run out was missed. Indians did not play well but with their fielding lapses they looked totally out played. It was just these openers who carried SA in batting along with De veilliers. When mid order was exposed after an early wicket, SA batting looked suspect!