South Africa v India, 2nd Test, Durban, 5th day

South Africa win to give Kallis perfect send-off

The Report by Siddarth Ravindran

December 30, 2013

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South Africa 500 (Kallis 115, de Villiers 74, Jadeja 6-138) and 59 for 0 beat India 334 (Vijay 97, Pujara 70, Steyn 6-100) and 223 (Rahane 96, Peterson 4-74) by ten wickets
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Match Point - 'Steyn, the best of his time'

South Africa overpowered India by ten wickets in Jacques Kallis' final Test to give one of the greatest of Test careers the perfect end. Kallis will retire satisfied at having been an integral part of a South Africa side who are the undisputed No. 1 in Tests, having lost just one of their previous 25 series stretching back to 2006.

It was a wonderful summer day to sign off. A 40% chance of rain was expected to be one of India's allies on a day that was the biggest challenge for their young batting line-up. Instead, they were greeted by clear blue skies and pleasant sunshine. And their chances worsened dramatically within 15 minutes of the start of play, as Dale Steyn removed their two best batsmen, Virat Kohli and Cheteshwar Pujara, in a fierce spell of fast bowling.

India managed to clear the deficit just before lunch, but South Africa had mopped up five wickets in the first session to put themselves on the verge of a series victory. Though it was the fifth day, the track was still reasonably good for batting, but only Ajinkya Rahane stuck it out with a hugely impressive 96 before becoming the last man out.

A target of 58 proved little challenge to South Africa's openers, who knocked it off in less than 12 overs to end a Durban 'jinx' that lasted since early 2008, with the home side failing to win four previous Tests.

SouthAfrica's dominance began with the first ball of the day itself when Steyn struck a big blow, getting a shortish delivery to rear up to have Kohli caught behind. Kohli couldn't believe the decision, as the ball had brushed his shoulder on the way through to the keeper but he was on his way.


Dale Steyn picked up two wickets in a fiery spell, South Africa v India, 2nd Test, Durban, 4th day, December 29, 2013
Dale Steyn picked up two wickets in a fiery spell © Associated Press
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If Kohli couldn't be faulted for his dismissal, very little blame could be attached to Pujara for his exit as well. Steyn produced the ball of the match - a quick delivery that angled in and then nipped away to beat Pujara's attempt at keeping it out and clip the top of offstump. India were left shellshocked by that early burst as Steyn gave another reminder of why he remains the most lethal fast bowler around.

Rohit Sharma had shouldered arms and lost his middle stump first ball in the first innings, but he fared better this time around. There was plenty of chat with a fired-up Steyn, who sledged him with lines like "I've got more runs than you this series," and "You have done nothing in your career." Rohit survived both Steyn's spell and the verbals, but there was no redemption on a disappointing tour for him as he was caught lbw by a ripping incutter from Vernon Philander for 25.

His Mumbai team-mate Rahane, though, has vastly enhanced his reputation on this series. After nearly two years with the Test squad without getting a proper look-in, he has finally got a couple of games on this challenging tour, and he has locked in his place with a bunch of gutsy knocks. There were an array of classic drives in his fighting innings, one of the highlights of which was a gentle straight drive for four off Steyn.

Rahane's defensive solidity was on display as he kept out the hostile South African quicks, again showcasing his temperament. He also showed that he had that vital quality for a No. 6, the ability to bat with the tail as he and the lower order frustrated South Africa for more than an hour after lunch. He was marching towards a maiden Test century, going for his shots - including a seemingly effortless six over point off Philander - before he was bowled for 96.

India's chances had withered long before that. Robin Peterson stuck twice in an over - MS Dhoni chipped a catch to midwicket, to bring back the questions over his ability to bat in away Tests, and Ravindra Jadeja holed out to long-off. India had slumped to 154 for 7. Zaheer Khan, unlike in recent innings, showed some application before falling to a carrom ball that rounded off a great day for Peterson.

South Africa may be the winners, but India have had plenty to gain from the series as well. Widely expected to be thrashed 2-0 on this tour, they showed they could hold their own against the toughest team around. It is a certainly a massive step up from their two previous high-profile overseas series, which ended in disastrous 4-0 losses, something to cheer their fans despite the Durban defeat.

Match Point: 'Steyn turned the series around'

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Posted by Ind.fools on (January 1, 2014, 15:07 GMT)

SA is best team in the world full stop. no need to cry like babies all indian fans. india got nothing to take positive from this tour which shows the quality of cricket indians play. poor team india. you perform only in your home in flat tracks. the future of indian cricket seems dark with mindless captain cool,

Posted by kbza86 on (January 1, 2014, 14:33 GMT)

Australia vs South Africa has been a rivalry that has been going on for many many years...with all due respect to India, we always knew we were going to beat them and beat them well..we always considered the Indian test team immensely overrated and a couple of good ODI players(dahwan, rohit, dhoni and jadeja in particular) and they proved us right yet again(ODI shots from jadeja and dhoni for dismissal). Australia has always been able to match us toe to toe with pace and batsmen..the crowds will jam packed to watch 2 good old fashioned test sides do battle..something the world of test cricket yearns..Good luck to India in NZ, I'm confident you will hammer the kiwis and shut thier commentators up on Ross Taylor!!!!

Posted by kbza86 on (January 1, 2014, 14:29 GMT)

Australia vs South Africa has been a rivalry that has been going on for many many years...with all due respect to India, we always knew we were going to beat them and beat them well..we always considered the Indian test team immensely overrated and a couple of good ODI players(dahwan, rohit, dhoni and jadeja in particular) and they proved us right yet again(ODI shots from jadeja and dhoni for dismissal). Australia has always been able to match us toe to toe with pace and batsmen..the crowds will jam packed to watch 2 good old fashioned test sides do battle..something the world of test cricket yearns..Good luck to India in NZ, I'm confident you will hammer the kiwis and shut thier commentators up on Ross Taylor!!!!

Posted by kbza86 on (January 1, 2014, 14:03 GMT)

at the end of the day, India lost and India lost heavily...huge margin losses twice in ODIs and 10 wkt loss in tests is just the same as an innings loss. doing well is not winning..bottom line..and coming close to winning is not winning...ALMOST DOESN'T COUNT!! 20 years later when a young cricketer looks at the stats of this series and see lose against India...a good thin to take out of this huge loss is that all teams win thier next series or do well after playing SA..eng did well in India, NZ beat eng, pak now beating SL.if you have never been tested at the highest level by the best team in the world, you learn a great deal and gain massive confidence because you won't face a better bowling or batting attack..

Posted by kbza86 on (January 1, 2014, 13:51 GMT)

at the end of the day, India lost and India lost heavily...huge margin losses twice in ODIs and 10 wkt loss in tests is just the same as an innings loss. doing well is not winning..bottom line..and coming close to winning is not winning...ALMOST DOESN'T COUNT!! 20 years later when a young cricketer looks at the stats of this series and see lose against India...a good thin to take out of this huge loss is that all teams win thier next series or do well after playing SA..eng did well in India, NZ beat eng, pak now beating SL.if you have never been tested at the highest level by the best team in the world, you learn a great deal and gain massive confidence because you won't face a better bowling or batting attack..

Posted by Duidelik on (January 1, 2014, 11:29 GMT)

The Aussies have been lulled into a false sense of euphoria. The England team that they beat is on a downward slide, just watch their next series! With the exception of Cook and Pietersen, their batters are nothing special and got terrorized by one bowler! I never rated Swann, Anderson and Broad can do nothing when the ball is not swinging, and the other quicks are all military medium. Stokes may be a star for the future. Aus dangerman will always be Warner, but due to his aggressive nature he always gives bowlers a chance and the SA quicks will set traps for him. Rogers is ordinary. Watson should've retired when he couldn't complete his ''homework'' LOL! The new Aussie batters haven't also been tested by the rising ball and they will get plenty in SA! If we get Michael Clarke early, its over!

Posted by Duidelik on (January 1, 2014, 11:02 GMT)

Apart from what all the haters say about SA, we are still no.1 in the world and have even stretched that lead further with this series victory. So I won't even bother to respond to these jealous haters! Anyway, concerning this Indian team, I think that they deserve their status as no.2 in the world at the moment. They put up a tremendous fight here in SA when everyone thought they were going to be blasted in submission. Despite some bruises they will be taking home, their batters have showed courage against the fast rising ball around chest and ear height, and hats off to them! They have also unearthed a future star in Rahane, who has shown that he will do well on pitches in Australia against the likes of Mitchell Johnson. I have always said all along that Dhawan is NOT a test player but rather an ODI star. His shot selection and temperament proves that on this tour. Kohli is a star player and future Indian captain. Pujara is rock solid. Rohit Sharma was also found out on this tour.

Posted by SuperSharky on (January 1, 2014, 10:51 GMT)

@Sridhara Gautham : I believe most Indians will never agree with sledging, as in the review system. But sledging is actually part of cricket and has been long before South Africa or India even started playing cricket. Someone scoring good runs in harsh unfriendly conditions will mostly be more respected and remembered than someone doing it in his familiar friendly conditions. The trick for most sledgers is only to play the game. After the game there is no need to keep the anger and upset the opponent. Dale Steyn is the type of bloke that would put effort in, to make you feel really uncomfortable when facing his bowling. But after the game, he would put effort in to make you feel comfortable in his presence. What happens on the field, stay on the field. A very old cricket rule. Congratulations to India & South Africa for a short entertaining and tough series. The result could have gone either way. Thanks for 'alles' Kallis, you will be missed.

Posted by   on (January 1, 2014, 10:47 GMT)

I had lost respect for Dale Steyn long time back, when I saw him spit on one of the WI players......no matter how u play if u respect other sportsperson.....u earn respect, that's where Kallis and SRT are great players.......

Posted by Ramansilva on (January 1, 2014, 6:23 GMT)

@Fast_Track_Bully, LoL@u2, "A team .. did well. "SA escaped with a draw ..." Your words are so hilarious. You see what you see due to colored glsses you wear. Sachin is one of the greatest batsmen ever. No argument. I have full respect fro him and I was awed by his farewell speech. But Kallis is the most complete package in recent history of cricket. Neither Sachin no other all rounder match his skills. My point was that his farewell show was very matching with the humble personality like Kallis. You do not need a big hullabaloo to give farewell to a legend. We are humble people too. So do not expect a boistrous show from us.

Posted by quittthewhinging on (December 31, 2013, 18:30 GMT)

@ Greatest_Game. re: Duminy/de Kock.

I'll concede that Duminy's position is possibly in jeopardy but he does have experience and is useful as a change bowler. And the selectors will not make changes just for the sake of it. De Kock is 21 but, with respect, comes across as a 16yo; sort of like the change room "pet". lol, I hope I'm wrong. The Aussies at this stage would sledge him to death. It would be better to delay his introduction to Test match cricket for a year or two. By all means, play him in the ODIs & T20s.

Posted by JoshFromJamRock on (December 31, 2013, 18:23 GMT)

Being a neutral fan I got to say that this series, though short, was very good for both teams.

For South Africa, their batting looks reasonably solid with Alma and AB expected to score the bulk of the runs in all conditions. AB's keeping has been mighty impressive for the quicks. Nothing needs to be said of the bowling except that a fast bowler (140kmh+) who can bat (useful 30-40 runs) needs to come in to replace Kallis.

For India, #3-5 are as solid as can be. Pujara, Kohli and Rahane though different in approach have the technique to score 100s anywhere in the world. Rohit needs to stay for home series and play at #6. Maybe Gambhir should come in for overseas tours at #4 ahead of Kohli and Rahane. Dhawan needs to learn controlled attacking. The bowling needs revamping. This lineup (esp Shami) will do great on helpful pitches but the pace of Yadav and Aaron will be needed for dead wickets. Ashwin should stay for home series while Jadeja should be used overseas as a lone spinner.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 31, 2013, 16:52 GMT)

@ Hiltesh Parate gave this advice "For S.A. I think they need to get rid of JP Duminy and bring DeCock."

As a Saffa, I think Hiltesh has a very good point. It would have been difficult for de Kock to have scored less runs than did Duminy in the test series, Duminy's bowling is helpful. but not good enough to warrant selection, and having de Kock get test experience sooner than later is an asset. His 1st class record alone is good enough to justify selection.

Posted by EnglishWanderer on (December 31, 2013, 16:31 GMT)

So the BCCI decision only to play 2 tests in order to protect ranking backfired? And even JK managed to upstage ST. A pity, this series should have been a minimum of 3, maybe 4 or 5 tests. Surely this should be the case for the best 2 teams in the world? Given another test, I think India would have had a chance of levelling the series. In Pujara, Kohli and Rahane, India now have potentially the best batting line up in world cricket, one that can play in any conditions. Their performance against the SA bowlers in home conditions has proved this.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 14:16 GMT)

SA had a both series win and all wins were one sided. Kallis had a good ending as well and he is truly a legend of Cricket India lost two ODIs with huge margins and lost a test by 10 wickets on a batting friendly wicked. I am really surprised by the terms Indians are after, that they had a good tour. I would say that India has to think deeply about both their bowling and batting. This is the time where India has to think about a new test captain.

Posted by EdGreen on (December 31, 2013, 14:12 GMT)

So long JK - cricket will be the poorer for the loss of one of the true all time greats - have a retirement as fantastic as your career has been!

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

i think what Steyn did to rohit sharma does not reflect the true spirit of game. Well....... You may be a match winner for your side, you can produce the ball of the match but until you respect you respect your opposition, you are not a complete cricketer. that's why india has god of cricket but rest of countries has bunch of sledgers.

Posted by JustIPL on (December 31, 2013, 13:58 GMT)

Lets set the basics right here and accept that the current bunch of players that india have are the best ones in india. Also, calling them inexperienced or rookies is not true either as the amount of cricket each of them have played is enormous.

Posted by wonky on (December 31, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

India not adopting DRS cost them and SA bowling was just that fraction better than theirs. Hats off to Kallis, after reviewing all the comparisons to other nations favorites, it's a debate that will never end. Bottom line ... When we look at the all rounder rating years from now, it will show Jacques Kallis at the top of the tree, above Sobers. It will also show he had a higher average than tendulkar did at 166 tests. Stats end subjective debates and for now, whichever side of the debate you are, let's just wish this chap the best in his retirement.

Posted by JustIPL on (December 31, 2013, 13:21 GMT)

Rahane was let go while SA were getting wickets easily. India entered the series with the impression that they have considerable batting lineup but almost all of their innings ended abruptly by SA. Many indian batsmen got out in 90s. Indian bowling was at the receiving end. Had there not been the largest total to chase in first then then it was another whitewash. Had there been morkel fit then also SA would have gone for kill. NZ series will show if india remain number 2.

Posted by 3Cents on (December 31, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

Time for Dhoni to hang up his boots in tests. His batting is not acceptable on overseas test tours considering we have better wicket keeping batsmen and we need as many batsmen we can have in the line up without upsetting the balance considering our bowling weakness. Similarly we need to play Ashwin and Jadeja as we need to have as much bowling resource as we can muster given our limited bowling quality without upsetting the batting side of the equation. Thus drop Dhoni and say Nohit (since Rahane clearly showed he belongs with his temperament and let's drop that rohit's talent and class crap argument) and bring in Kartik for now and groom other wicket keeping batsmen. Play 5 bowlers overseas, 3 pacers and Ashwin and Jadeja, 5 batsmen (Vijay, SD(?), Pujara, Virat,Rahane) and Kartik as Keeper batsman. Time for Virat to be made captain for now. It will be a bit of a challenge but it is certainly true that a captain is as good as his team, so why have Dhoni with a weak team.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

Any way you slice or dice it, the fact of the matter is India has lost 9 out its last 10 overseas Test matches. Someone has to be accountable for this and that can only be Dhoni. His batting record is also poor. Dhoni being a master tactician will never give up wicketkeeping in Tests but will give it up in ODI and T20 to protect his body. Time has come for India to find a solid and reliable wicket keeper batsman and give the Captaincy to Virat Kohli. Dhoni needs to be given time till the end of the England Tour to prove himself.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 11:42 GMT)

Well,the series is over now and we can analyse it till the depth but one thing is sure,Indian bowling needs to adapt to the condition very quickly and has to adjust their line and length otherwise India will never going to win a match abroad.Big positive for "this Indian Team" is the performance of Ajinkya Rahane.He should definitely bat before Rohit Sharma.There is no confidence on the batting ability of Dhoni as far as Test matches are concerned.Bowling wise there is a need of a quick bowler as well as a spinner who can bowl well on abroad.Jadeja bowl well and needs to improve on his batting as well.For S.A. I think they need to get rid of JP Duminy and bring DeCock.Du Plesis is a welcome news for them and he can bat at number4 definitely.

Posted by Protears on (December 31, 2013, 11:00 GMT)

@Perceptive (Quote)The first point is I am a South African fan that has watched many a one day disappointments but have witnessed a team that has lost one test series since 2006, and most of them discarded at one point in their careers go on to achieve a mantle of success in trying to build a legacy. I would like us to get over the line at some point in a limited overs competitions but I am not overly concerned about it. Don Bradman, Headley, Hutton, Sobers didn't get to play limited overs cricket but they are no more or less legends and the best of all time.

Sachin played in a team regarded the best batting team of the last 10-12 years on cumulative stats India averaged higher than even the great Australian team but never went on to dominate world cricket in the pure format. In fact Australia's bowling avg 28 collectively while India avg 35 so there is not a huge disparity to say that Indian bowling was the reason either in fact in that period SA avg 32 with the ball.

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 31, 2013, 10:44 GMT)

Posted by Asmadhi on (December 31, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

dude u have to check statguru Aus & eng arent exactly a dustbowl but Kallis is avergaring 48 & 35 way below his carreer avg. where as sachin is avg 51 & 53 near to his career average.

And naming players, Don himself has said only sachin comes close to him. other includes like neil harvey, dicky bird, Viv richards, brian lara, and many many many others.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

i cant believe this SA side still has to respond to blind haters . They are the best side in the world . Deal with it haters . And as for someone talkin bout SA's ODI record here , they still have the best w/l ratio in ODI cricket after Australia and are the only side to give australia a run for their money in ODI cricket . Wow , imagine the proteas choke so much and still are considered a formidable force . If they had not choked u indians would be clutching at straws here . So feel lucky guys.

Also , not to forget the fact that India escaped at joburg , otherwise this would have been another Whitewash for team India ...

Posted by Asmadhi on (December 31, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

@Sachin_The_Greatest

If Kallis had the luxury of playing in subcontinent dust bowls, he could have amassed 20000 runs each in test and ODI's.....

Sachin may be better recordwise, but if anyone asks ppl who have played the game as to who is better, most will pick Kallis.....

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 31, 2013, 9:39 GMT)

@ste13 I third you mate lol, Dhoni should not be captain of test matches

this would be my team for NZ tour

1. Vijay (has shown left of character, i thought he'll be a walking wicket) 2. Rahane (good temperament, plays @ 3 so should not be a problem) 3. Pujara 4. Kohli 5. Rohit (give him couple of more chances) 6. Dhoni (altough m not big fan of him in TEST, i love him for ODIS. we do not have any other option for test) 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin/mishra (would prefer mishra as not too many ppl plays leg spin better) 9. Rishi Dhawan (has taken lot of wickets in domestic matches and can bat a bit) 10. Zak/Umesh yadav (i would prefer Umesh) 11. Shami Ahemad

we can swap one of the spinners with faster bowlers depending on conditions. but with kind of bowlers we have we will need 5 bowlers to WIN a test match abroad.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

I think 1-0 was a fair result though it could have been 1-1 if India had better bowlers and sober Umpires. India is able to send rocket to Moon but has failed to get bowler like Mitchel Johnson on the field.. Well, after accepting India's vulnerabilities and its abilities, I think the tour was gone well and it produced some excellent cricket atleast in the test matches. Rahane is a revelation and if it is not flash in the pan performance, then India has got a excellent guy who can perhaps fill one of the opening slots. Dhawan just does't ahev the patience required and if he has taken Shewag as his role model then he has very short test life. Shewag was just one in million.

Dhoni pl improve your test averages, especially overseas and give us a century in Newzealand..

Happy new year to all cricket fans ...

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

Proteas show their 80% wining persentage during this series but they missed 2 games, one is ODI washout by rain and the other one is test 456 run target, 8 run draw. Any way i wishing all the best to my best team proteas to keep up series victory like this

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

@ste13: absolutely I second your opinion test captaincy should be give to somebody else. Dhoni not the right man to captain for tests .. We are in need of a better test captain .. if gambhir makes a come back with strong performances who knows he could be the man to lead ..

Posted by 13Amar on (December 31, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

Dhoni is not a test player and to win tests team needs to take 20 wickets, so a team should have at least 5 bowlers in playing eleven, India should make a fresh start with a new captain, but i know it wont happen in near future, so cut the crap.

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 31, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

Posted by GermanPlayer on (December 31, 2013, 3:55 GMT)

The numbers you are talking? i have just given you certain numbers u can chek more on statsguru if you like

i am no way downgrading contribution of kallis, i hate to compare two legends but its when some one says XYZ is better then Sachin then i comment.

Secondly i agree tht u have more sports in SA but you cant bring 10000 ppl from entire nation ? for Kallis? if u ask me kallis def deserved beter then this? & you guys went after india to play 4 test matches in what empty stands?

Also, it's the struggle in last three years of sachin which has inspired me more then anything else.

He could have walked out after winning World cup avg of 56 in test & nobody would have complained, But what it taught me is even when u r sturgulling u do not pull out. you try harder & harder to achieve what u love the most. No matter if ur reputation is destroyed but you still FIGHT.

Posted by ste13 on (December 31, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

India batting passed the test. India bowling was average, but better than expected. In durban they missed the second spinner. Dhoni captaincy not enough adventurous (Michael Clarke is far above all other current test captains). Overally not bad, but I would hand India test captaincy to somebody else. SA rely a lot on Steyn, but has great batting resources, with du Plessis and de Villiers great batsmen. Kallis - one of the legends of the game. Wish him all the best

Posted by Sports_buddy on (December 31, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

As expected, India had given the result which every Indian known. As India had shown more focus on giving fare well to Sachin (which Sachin really deserve) India should have given some importance to this tour also by arriving early and knowing the conditions. However,for players and BCCI seems that they are more interested in completing the series rather than result. Only goodies were the some good performance by the Rahane and Shami as Pujara and Kohli is becoming backbone of the Indian team. Also, Indian player should learn art of retiring from the player like Kallis that is leaving on a high when you are playing good not when people starts gossiping about you age and performance.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

I think it was a wonderful tour for India. Everyone felt Indian team would be goners against a world class XI but they proved they are here to stay. When we lost against England and Australia and that too with Fab 5 around, critics were saying let them lose with Youngsters and not with ageing stars anymore. Now is the time to build a strong team and i guess this team has got everything to succeed. They proved critics wrong. My mind goes back to Lord's in 1996 series against England where we lost the series to England 1-0, but still it emerged as the long careers to Sourav & Rahul. Likewise this team has also got firepower and skills for a longer run.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (December 31, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

@Ramansilva. lol @ you. A team without any prior experience in SA and with no practice matches did well. This is what SL can't even dream. Even with all legends, your team bowled out under 50. SA escaped with a draw in the first test - their own captain told like that!. Tendulkar scored 75 in his last inngs at home and Kallis scored 100 too @ home. Whats in that? Tendulkar is the greatest ever after Bradman (bradman himself told like that) and hence the people and media all over the world made such noise. He is an icon and inspiration of many including opposition (even from arch rival Pakistan). Do you think ANY SL 'legends' will get that type farewell?

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 31, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Posted by Thegimp on (December 31, 2013, 2:47 GMT)

as i said i have utmost regards for kallis, but i would like to ask you a question how many match winning innigs of kallis do you remember? backs to the wall? world cup perfm han? wining match on his own ODIS or TEST?

And even if i leave all this things aside, how many ppl turned out to watch kallis last innings in his home country ?

sachin can pull crowds even in australia, england anywhere? that keeps cricket alive spcly Test Cricket.

some nos. for you

Kallis avg 55 in test which is very good, but against Aus 41 & Eng 44 way below his career avg. again in Aust his average rises to 48 but in Eng it is 35. condition which are similar to SA and his performances are below par. he avg. staggering 503 in Zim need i say anythin more . also he has 40 NO in 166 matches.

Sachin avg is 53 in aus, 51 in eng & his is second best in SA (away players) in 100 years. 33no in 200 matches

in ODI sachin has 6852 runs more hen kallis.

Posted by cric_roch on (December 31, 2013, 8:34 GMT)

before series every one said IND will get thrashed , but they did better than expected.Even could have won a test match. IND played well in 4 days of both tests , lack of quality bowling prevented us having better results.Steyn was the only difference between 2 sides. This series easily helps one to understand why SA cant win big tournaments. I never thought they would bowl defensively at end of day 1 in second test and not go for a win in the first test.

Posted by FAB_ALI on (December 31, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

You need to have luck on your side to win in an evenly matched contest. SA had that luck and it was named Steve Davis.....you all know why? Early Bad light call on first day stalling India's progress...Peterson was plumb in second innings but given not out to increase lead and then he gobbled Virat Kohli early on day 5!!! even Zaheer was not out in second innings but that could not have made any impact on the game while the previous three definitely made a huge difference in SA's favor.

Posted by Rock_cricket on (December 31, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

No need to respond to bashers, they will cry because one country is not having cricket in their home for past 3-4 years and other is not able to perform well in their backyard. Series was very good, SA deserve to win it with advantage of home conditions.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

india had no chance of winning the first test. india have poorly through out the series. south africa deserved to win cause they are number 1. india are failures. they will lose against new zealand. england and australia in 2014. plus the 20/20 world cup. they have a weak 20/20 team.

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 31, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

Posted by Thegimp on (December 31, 2013, 2:47 GMT)

as i said i have utmost regards for kallis, but i would like to ask you a question how many match winning innigs of kallis do you remember? backs to the wall? world cup perfm? wining match on his own ODIS or TEST?

And even if i leave all this things aside, how many ppl turned out to watch kallis last innings in his home country ?

sachin can pull crowds even in australia, england anywhere? that keeps cricket alive spcly Test Cricket.

some nos. for you

Kallis avg 55 in test which is very good, but against Aus 41 & Eng 44 way below his career avg. again in Aust his average rises to 48 but in Eng it is 35. condition which are similar to SA and his performances are below par. he avg. staggering 503 in Zim need i say anythin more . also he has 40 NO in 166 matches.

Sachin avg is 53 in aus, 51 in eng & his is second best in SA (away players) in 100 years. 33no in 200 matches

in ODI sachin has 6852 runs more hen kallis. statsguru

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (December 31, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Congratulations to SA from Indian fan!! You deserve it particularly Steyn and Kallis. It was India's day on first day but Steyn showed what he is capable of and Kallis last innings ensured SA could not loose this game. We are a bit unlucky with 2 decisions in second innings with Kholi and Zak but can't blame umpires here. Hope BCCI realizes the importance of DRS and nods for at least limited DRS.

That said the real difference between these two teams in this game is the contribution by the tail from SA which effectively boils down to our bowling stocks.Kholi, Pujara, Rahane are going to be our future players. Rohit might chance again if fails Rayudu should be in and Dhoni position in Test cricket should be questioned.

Posted by Ramansilva on (December 31, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

India was lucky to escape defeat in the first test. SA as eternal chokers choked at the last moment and allowed India to escape. But it was embarassing for India be at 180 somethig for 1 on the first day and then loose by 10 wickets on the fifth day. Kallis did what Tendulakr could not do in the last test appearance. He also retired without much hulabaloo as happened in Mumbai.

Posted by India2014 on (December 31, 2013, 8:07 GMT)

India lost this match only because of Dhoni's captaincy. A blunder mistake to drop Ashwin. Pitch has lot of assistance for spin. 2 spinners would have stalled South Africa from scoring 500. This whole SA series bowling selection have been erratic from Dhoni.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

for me I am it was good hard fought series although I might feel india let it go in the second innings bashers will keep bashing...we dont really care...its a new team and was expected to loose on day 3...but we did our best...and lost to the best team in the world ...well played SA...Certainly India's future looks brighter

Posted by starlite on (December 31, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

@Shridharan Ramamurthi, sorry, but this tour was not "ok" for India. They played 2 series and lost them both. How does that make for an "ok" tour? Small wonder the BCCI absolutely did not want their good-at-home-only cricketers playing more matches than they did! And as for all the hype surrounding S. Dhawan and his assertion that he was ready for SA.s pitches, well, it all came to nought, didn't it? Stop being the atypical Indian fan and admit that your team still has a very long way to go where winning overseas series are concerned.

Posted by milepost on (December 31, 2013, 7:48 GMT)

With 59 to get it was great that they actually went for the total this time!

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 7:46 GMT)

Its a shame so many Indian fans choose to view South Africa's victory so negatively. Had we won the first test it would have been a world record run chase of over 500. And with a few more overs we would have won it. Just to remind you, last time we were in India the series was drawn. Our batting hardly gets any praise, but we batted very well this series. AB, Faf, Kallis, the Petersons. All batted well. Even without Amla contributing, we scored the runs. Our weakness remains our lack of quality spin. Always has been a weakness. Every kid in SA wants to bowl fast. Australia will be very tough without Kallis. The two sides look quite evenly matched. Hopefully our batting will prove deeper. And hopefully attendance is better than it was for this series. That was embarrassing.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 7:30 GMT)

the fact is SA completely dominated in ODIs whereas in tests India could have win the first test but there poor bowling have failed to do there job and SA players managed to score 400 plus runs in second innings and successfully draw test match. Kallis is all the best cricketer who made 100 in his last test where conditions were suitable for bowlers and he showed his class how to bat in last test on seaming conditions!

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 7:26 GMT)

Everyone is blaming bowlers that they are not capable of taking 20 wickets. Please take note that only when captain is willing to set you aggressive fields and asks you to bowl you will be able to take 20 wickets. In the first test ashwin was selected ahead of Ojha/Jadeja. Though Ashwin did not bowl badly, the field set when he was bowling was too defensive and allowed easy singles. In the second test Dhoni relied on the old ball for too long with just a single spinner in the side rather than going for new ball though he had three seamers in his side. I am sure India would have drawn this series had ganguly or azhar would have been the captains during this series. Dhoni please give up test captaincy. This is third series defeat away in row, how long will you say we performed well against a better side!!!

Posted by anver777 on (December 31, 2013, 7:25 GMT)

A match winning century to end a test career, What a memorable moment for JK.... he will cherish this match for rest of his life !!!! The best "Farewell" someone can get for the services rendered for cricket !!!!!

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 31, 2013, 7:18 GMT)

@ Blade-Runner At least Dhoni is a Flat track bully but has won major trophies outside Asia. Your Colombo Track Bullies(CTBs) are yet to win anything abroad. Not a single Test in Aus or even in India. Team of Average 30 Legends who are considered mediocre outside Lanka. Just got a fresh thrashing on highways in UAE by PAK. Struggled to score 250 on flat tracks. LOL.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 7:07 GMT)

I think the tour was ok for India...Bad for South Africa realistically.SA expected to roll over India 2-0-what exactly happened...they managed to come close in the first test but 1 out of 100 times they are more likely to lose chasing 460 than win..so it was India's game to lose.The second test India could have certainly played better and saved it...and i think Kolhi's decision was the game changer...The nucleus of a good team is in place...let us build on it.There is no use comparing it to the England and Aus tours...where the Senior kept losing and Dhoni didnt have the freedom to drop anybody.

Posted by Sreeram83 on (December 31, 2013, 7:04 GMT)

While some comments look into the positives of this series for India. Most of them look into negatives to bring down India. First of this team performed way above the expectation based on its experience. We always used to having an Indian team that performs below its potential in overseas condition. This is the first time we see the opposite. For most part of this series India had the upper hand against an experienced No1 team in the world. The positives include, Kolhi, Pujara and Rehane have proved their potential in overseas condition against quality attack. It is also proved beyond doubt that Ashwin cannot trouble the opponents outside India. May be the change in ball manufacture or pitch condition is hampering him. But the good thing is he will no longer be considered as the champion spinner outside India. Rohit's lack of runs is also a good thing, we badly need to replace him with an alrounder who can act as 5th bowler. With 4 bowlers we cannot take 20 wickets.

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 31, 2013, 7:03 GMT)

We can clearly see the gap between Ind and SA's mental ability and the hunger to win..SA saved the first test match from losing position and Ind lost the test match which they should have atleast drawn..Dhawan and Rohit dont have the ability to bat longer and am wondering How Jadeja scored 300 centuries in domestic matches..His rash shot that too on the final day was insane...I dont Know how Dhoni can think he can take some positives of this tour when clearly we dont have quality bowlers in our side...Test matches are mostly won by bowlers..A team should have bowlers who should be capable of taking 20 wickets but unfortunately the Selectors and Dhoni keep on ignoring this fact...

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 6:59 GMT)

Well played SA. You deserve the victory. India has some great batsman but lack quality bowling.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 31, 2013, 6:45 GMT)

@Chris_P, Pakistan whitewashed England too and they did it with 2 spinners. Australia did it with 3 pacemen. But, let's not forget that the same England side beat the same Aussie side in England. Aus. beat Ind 4-0 in Aus and Ind returned the favor in Ind. These 3 teams have proved to be strong at home while SA is the only team to be consistently strong, home and away. Aus have been hopeless away from Aus even with their self-proclaimed "best attack" (Craig McDermott). The same MJ, RH, and PS were and will be mercilessly thrashed in India. Let's not forget that you are beating a hopelessly poor Eng. side. The batting is not "too classy". Not been for a while. Eng's batting failed to post 400+ against NZ too. Ian Bell was the difference between the two sides in England. Now, he is also struggling and Aus. have easily won. You may be living in utopia if you think the so-called great Aussie attack will repeat their successes in India. Fact: SA are #1, India are #2, Aus, in current form, #3

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (December 31, 2013, 6:30 GMT)

No point of talking-could have-would have's. It is very clear that the result was not as good as SA expected. They were looking for 2-0 as they are no:1. But once India got adjusted to the conditions, they did well in 1st test. It is shame for no:1 team with 3 top 5 bowlers to blame on conditions to degrade the performance of opposition in the 1st test. In the 2nd test, Indian batsmen, throw away their good start and thus ended in defeat. It was slip catching cause problems for India than bowling in tests. Need to find proper replacement for VVS and Dravid in slips.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (December 31, 2013, 6:22 GMT)

@Blade-Runner. If you donot count draw, then we have to take a lot from SL's past performances.lol. SL lost 17 AWAY test matches from 1982 to 1995. They won first AWAY test in 1995 Vs NZ.After that SL lost 8 AWAY test matches again until they won 1998. Anything to say? lol. @Blade-Runner. Are you talking about the wicket keeper batsman Dhoni or captain Dhoni? In both case, average of Mathews (captain of SL) and Sangakkara(keeper) in the flat bed of UAE is 33.60. lol. So we can call them Home Track Bullys.lol

Posted by Rohit_Gupta78 on (December 31, 2013, 6:21 GMT)

Test cricket is about taking 20 wickets. India didn't have bowlers for that. With that in mind, winning was out of question. Even securing a draw was a big task for India. Batting was commendable esp the way everyone batted except Dhoni & Rohit. It will be good if Dhoni announces his retirement from test cricket and concentrate on onedays. This will give us one more batsmen Dinesh karthik who is technically much more sound than Dhoni. Rohit will be given more chances as he is very gifted player. Finally, if we can get world class spinners which is surely more doable for India, we can start thinking of drawing the series outside India.

Posted by Simon221979 on (December 31, 2013, 6:21 GMT)

I think India should reconsider applying DRS, just think how many matches India lost due poor decisions. One day India will have to pay big price for not applying DRS for sure specially in a World Cup.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 31, 2013, 6:20 GMT)

@ InSINuATE That's the funniest comment I have ever read. But going by your theory Amla made 3 runs and Ishant Sharma made 4 runs so That shows Ishant is a much better batsman than Amla. :P

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 6:18 GMT)

who cares indoa still better team than sa sa is the most unluckiest team who hasn't won a major tournament and nwver will

Posted by Reality_Bytes2014 on (December 31, 2013, 6:16 GMT)

Series like these make us think if we really are the best (# 1) ?

Our bowlers in ODIs believe we can chase down 350+ runs everytime because we have the best batting line-up in the world. We all know the margins of defeat we suffered in both ODIs - good batting is not a substitute for poor bowling.

We almost ended up losing the 1st test that should have been won. We can't bowl out teams when they are under pressure and we have a day-and-a-half to do it with 460 odd runs to defend. Even the 2nd test match, the new ball had been seen off by our top order on day 4 and it was not a dreadful pitch to trouble our middle order on day 5. The match could have been drawn if our great batting line-up had made more efforts to score runs and not got over-defensive and panicked. Our bowlers do get the blame for not being able to clean-up the SA tail and granting a lead of 170 runs in quick time, but you can't expect good quality yorkers or bouncers from a weak bowling attack that is led by Jadeja

Posted by deshwani on (December 31, 2013, 6:05 GMT)

the results could easily be 3.0 ODI and 2.0 Tests but some abnormal things saved India from more shameful defeats... good played RSA..

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (December 31, 2013, 6:05 GMT)

Congrats to SA and well done Indian rookies. Kohli, Pujara, Rahane did exceptionally well and Zak, Ishant, Jadeja, Shami, M Vijay were avergae and did well in patches. But Dhavan, Rohit and Aswin failed to show even one good performance. Hopefully, India will find someone other than Rohit in the middle order soon. All the best for the future series.

Posted by Hiba.R on (December 31, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

ICCI should take a serious note of the VERBALS on the ground especially ny the fast bowlers, in this series they were coming from Steyn though he is seen too often doing that. Must applaud the cool of Morkel who though being faster than Steyn still has his BP under check.

The Verbals to me are a kind of racial slurs and hsould not be allowed, Steyn wasn't fined for doing it almost like in every other over, why did the empires let him go is beyond my understanding where Kohli rightly showed discontent was fined.

Posted by Hiba.R on (December 31, 2013, 5:44 GMT)

Fast bowling had been a problem with the Indian cricket and ever since after Kapil Dev never really produced a real good fast/med pacer. The dull slow pitches around the country to be blamed for that, so a young player prefers to become a spinner or a batsmen. We need to understand that batsmen alone cannot win matches, had Steyn not got Kohli and Pujara out in his morning spell and opened the flood gate for other bowlers the story at Durban would have been totally different.

The story could also have been different had Dhoni (stubborn Indian Captain) had taken a new ball at the right time, that would surely have not allowed the SA batsmen to score especially a nightwatch man to have a stand of 80 odd runs with Kallis. Dhoni needs to think positive and not stale the opportunities, but stubbornly defends for not taking the new ball rather than admitting the fault. It needs character for a man to accept his own follies, Dhoni from where he comes, to have that, is too much of an asking..

Posted by junaid_bhai on (December 31, 2013, 5:38 GMT)

the best thing for us is Pakistan wins or lose no matter but india lose

Posted by DistCric on (December 31, 2013, 5:36 GMT)

Dhoni should not be in Test team when team plays outside subcontinent. How can you describe his dismissal in first and second innings? It was mediocre to say the least. I would suggest bring D. Karthik in place of Dhoni in test team. He would serve well for team india, as Dhoni is not getting younger and he hardly performs in test outside subcontinent. Rest needs to be given more chances as team is rebuilding phase.

Posted by Anil_Koshy on (December 31, 2013, 5:31 GMT)

It is high time that India should look for a regular batsman wicket keeper in place of Dhoni, he is a very good player in shorter version of the game, but his technique and record against goods teams like Australia, South Africa and England is very dismal, he can't cope with rising deliveries or quality fast bowlers, Dhawan should be given few more opportunities, Rohit should go, we should include a technically correct player.

Posted by tao585 on (December 31, 2013, 5:27 GMT)

I am not yet finished. The other difference which I have seen is that Indian fans for get 5 good performances of their players and execute them for any single failure. Shahid Khan Afridi scored a fasted Hundred 17 years ago, but he was retained in the side despite his constant failures and despite the fact that opponents have worked him out. So, he concentrated on his bowling and was a force to reckon.

No offense meant, but it seems that for the past so many years, adoration and respect which should have been for the whole team has only been reserved for Sachin. Why Rahul Dravid is not worshiped? To be honest, the opponents were wary of him. His wicket was the prized wicket.

Sachin's send off was not normal, people in the rest of the world dont do this for Cricket. For Football, we might understand when you to fight all of the world, but for cricket where only British Common Wealth play it. Well.... :D

Posted by MaruthuDelft on (December 31, 2013, 5:26 GMT)

India 1300 mn hiennas; SA 30 mn lions.

Posted by tao585 on (December 31, 2013, 5:18 GMT)

As a neutral observer from Pakistan, first of all thanks to SA and India for playing wonderful cricket which captivated and engaged rest of the World. Nobody wants one sided game. So, hats off to Indian team for giving tough time to South Africa.

Regarding Pace Bowling attack, it is some time puzzling to understand that why India (close to one billion population) fails to produce a Master Faster Bowler, while its neighbour (i.e us Pakistan) have hordes of Kids aspiring to be the fast bowlers.

The answer in my opinion is that Indian Pace bowlers are not 'Pampered'/Adored by their Board and country. Ishant Sharma might well have been playing for Pakistan and I assure you he would have been the First Seamer for Pakistan with a permanent place in XI. Shoaib Akhtar was brutally thrashed by Taylor in World Cup 2011, but we forgot his few bad performances and remembered him for his few good performances.

Love/Respect your Pace Attack, they will win you games.

Posted by MrCricket0099 on (December 31, 2013, 5:17 GMT)

Just think if SA played with more guts in Johannesburg we would've seen 0-10.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 5:07 GMT)

perfect farewell to Jacques Kallis with a hard fought win in his final test. Like what Shaun Pollock said I would have liked to watch him play for another 2 years and he would have very easily been my first player to pick in the RSA test 11.

Will be great to watch him in his final few ODI's and in the IPL.

Posted by Vivfan on (December 31, 2013, 4:59 GMT)

@Black_bird. Mate you seem frustrated, is it because of the fact that a player of yours who scored a double century recently at home has less runs than Dale Steyn on this tour haha.

South Africa despite the small population has an almost unbeatable team, and India despite their population has a shortage of talent and are 0-9 overseas. Such a shame.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 4:58 GMT)

Quite a few have suggested to rest Dhoni. Replace him with DK. Try out Kohli as the Test Captain. I tend to agree. Start with the NZ tour. Look at the results. And take on from there.

The set of pacers, need to be chosen with utmost care, looking at all the options! That will make all the difference on the forthcoming overseas tours.

Posted by cricketsubh on (December 31, 2013, 4:48 GMT)

India lose the series and lose 9 test match out of 10 overs sees and they now tour to nz I do not think they can beat nz on those pitches Yes kohli is the positive come out from this series but I still think pujara need to be aggressive when it requires u cannot block half trackers .i think Dhawan. Is not a test player gambhir should replace Dhawan as a opener and Zak need to go at age of 35 is very difficult for any bowler to maintain fitness for five days he take 300 wickets and time for him to go . I think dhoni need to play captains knocks as a captain u need to play match winning innings I do not think he going that at the moment when team needed him in 2 nod innings at Durban he fails also in 1st innings he fails deliver .

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

Look at India, India's Team can only win inside India "Expect for playing against Pakistan inside India reference last Pak vs India Series" but against other teams India do well inside India... Players like R. Sharma Score 200s even V. Kholi play wells but at look their stats outside India not really great compare to how they perform inside India in their Local stadiums in front of their local crowd? I can't really recall India's big victory outside India in recent years..? Actually it's a suggestion for Team India and Indian players to concentrate on their performances outside INDIA they should not think about performing well to just play in IPL franchises. Job well done South Africa… Imran Haider.. Canada

Posted by vr.mandalapu on (December 31, 2013, 4:42 GMT)

Really disappointed to see losing four wickets to a part-time spinner. Otherwise there would have been a real tough fight on the last day.Though I was personally disappointed with the exclusion of Rayudu, Rahane did really well justifying his selection.Hope India will improve on it's overseas performances.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 31, 2013, 4:37 GMT)

@ Albert_cambell As a batsman Sachin was greater and most of the people will agree but as a cricketer Kallis was more valuable than anybody. He was among some of the best batsmen of mordern era for sure. Sachin,Kallis,Lara,Dravid,Ponting,Inzamam. You can not compare these batsmen. They were class above the rest. Players like sanga, Mahela don't even come close to these true Legends. I hope you will agree. i hope someday SL can also produce a cricketer who is considered a Legend outside Sri lanka as well. And Sachin is considered God of Cricket in India and he will remain so, we don't expect everybody around the world to consider him as God. We have all heard other Legends talk about Sachin and they know better than us. Everybody has considered Sachin and Lara to be the best of Modern era with Sachin slightly ahead.

Posted by Shaggy076 on (December 31, 2013, 4:17 GMT)

Looking at this from an outside perspective " Australian" - I think South Africa are the best side in the world but the gap is closing, last year in Aus they had a world class X1 with everyone in form, now they have a couple of quesiton marks but still the best aroung. India I think have improved there standard at test level abroad, there performance better than i expected. Pujara and Kohli are two world class batsman, Vijay is honest and Rahane looks to be a very good cricketer. All these cricketers look capable of performing on any surface. There bowling needs work but Shami looks good and I still believe Ishant Sharma can be world class, if supported by a captain that knows what he is doing. Here they bowled well in the first test, before getting worn down by South Africa survival in the second innings, then went into the second test a bit tired and there captain refused to take the new ball. India have player capable of playing abroad, the captain needs to attack the opposition.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 3:59 GMT)

Congratulations to SA. You beat us fair and square.

Just when I thought Steyn is getting cold, he produced a magical spell. What a champion! I wish we somehow get a bowler like him.

So long JK.

Posted by GermanPlayer on (December 31, 2013, 3:55 GMT)

@Sachin_the_greatest Do not judge the calibre of a player by how many people attend his last game. Don't forget that in SA there are many other sports which are more popular than cricket. In addition to that, the population of SA is nothing compared to India. So its not a surprise that Tendulkar's game was witnessed by so many people while Kallis' was witnessed by a few thousands. And I don't want to go into the numbers game because everyone knows which of the two was struggling and which one retired at the peak of his powers.

Also, where are the people criticizing Kallis for slow run-rate?? Despite so many overs lost, SA still won the game with about a session to play. Interesting how the Indian fans change the topic to try and hide their own stupid comments.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (December 31, 2013, 3:49 GMT)

Drop Dhoni, make Pujara the captain and bring DK in Dhoni's place. Drop Rohit and bring in an extra bowler. Nothing more. India is doing fine apart from those two. Goodbye to Zaheer and Ishant as well. Bring in Umesh and Shukla. Ojha comes in in India at the expense of a pacer. That's all.

Posted by black_bird on (December 31, 2013, 3:47 GMT)

great win india. India have the moral victory. who cares about stupid test matches at south africa. still we are world champions. south africa will never win a trophy like this.

Posted by Tysonlanka on (December 31, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

End result is India Lost and South Africa showed that they got the fighting spirit in TEST cricket and not the cow boy game T20 which India shows better fight. I feel that the best two teams in World cricket is South Africa & Australia now. If these two teams play a TEST series in the next two months this is going to be one of the great series to watch. However Kallis now gone Aussi has a slight edge with SA if they play each other in the next two to 3 months. what a fighting bowler Steyn is great to see this guy, also Mitc Jonson great bowlers in this era. we miss the waqra, Wasim, Lee, Fintoff, Ambrose and the Donald's,,,, good to see that still we got some Gladiators in the cricket field.

Posted by ajithabey on (December 31, 2013, 3:33 GMT)

Kallis joins an elite band of Allrounders such as Garfield Sobers, Kapil Dev, Imran Khan,Richard Hadlee, Ian Botham, Tony Greig, Sanath Jayasuriya to name a few who have contributed heavily towards this game by their allround performances. The cricketing world will certainly miss you.

Posted by rocket_rocket on (December 31, 2013, 3:11 GMT)

I think India shouldn't be too disappointed with this tour..look at the bright side guys we all expected pujara n kohli to do well but the biggest positives would be vijay and rahane...i also feel dhawan played well but just threw his wicket away same goes to rohit too...now the problem is 20 wickets...this series could've been 1-0 ind or 1-1 ..zaheer,ishant ,shami ,jadeja everyone did well but in parts not as a pack... CONS:batting of 9,10,11 has just been abysmal..not expecting 30's or 40's but atleast they need to show some resistance...

SA:they again proved why they are no.1 by bouncing back in style..steyn ,philander,morkel are an awesome trio of our generation.hunt in packs is their mantra and its worked for them...

over all one of the best series i've seen would have been better if there was a third test...

Posted by cricketforpeace on (December 31, 2013, 3:10 GMT)

I would also congratulate the entire S African team for a wonderful all round show and for their well deserved victories. They certainly deserve the No 1 spot. However I, for one cannot fathom as to why fast bowlers have to resort to sledging at the batsmen. Bowlers from Australia, S Africa and England frequently use this tactic to intimidate the batsmen. Why should the world's fastest and feared fast bowler such as Steyn resort to such measures when his most dreaded weapon should be his skill and technique to blow the batsmen away. For me at least, I consider sledging very unsporting. Personally, I have always respected Dale Steyn for his bowling skills. But today, he has fallen in my eyes. Doubtless, it would not make a dent, but that is my two cents worth.

Posted by emranbmb on (December 31, 2013, 3:08 GMT)

i m happy to see India down :D

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

In my opinion india in this series played very well but only the by the new commers while Dhoni, Kohli, and their Sir i don't know why they call him sir played a rubbish game with the bat. Its time for Dhoni to give captaincy to someone other in the overseas tours and lead from the front on the flat tracks of INDIA where Rohit scores a double ton. hahahahs

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 3:05 GMT)

Most of us (and Dhawan himself) got blinded b debut test century. He is not test class opener. Perhaps not even test class batsman. He has the techniques; but not the test class temperament!

Pujar should open with Vijay. Use Rahane as an ideal No. 3 -- a good successor to Dravid. Kohli at No. 4 -- an adequate replacement for Tendulkar. If any one in the team can strive towards Sachin's standards one day, it is he!

These FOUR and their batting positions should not be disturbed at least for a couple of overseas trips, if not longer. Experiment with everything else; beyond No 4!

Rest are all question marks; including the "wicketkeeper-batsman " and certainly "lead pacers" -Zak & Ishant. (For spinners, we have to play around & shuffle among the three --Ashwin, Ojha, & Jadeja; till we locate better spinners.)

Posted by guyanafan on (December 31, 2013, 3:04 GMT)

Fan of Indian team since I was kid, 'cause fore-parents from India. Disappointed of the loss. Team India's loss resulted from the following; basically scare of Dale Styen; too hot to handle. has to learn to play genuine fast bowling, surely India can prepare pitches ideal for fast bowling. More than a billion people & not 4 genuine, really good fast bowlers. Stop the politics. India crumbled on day 2 of the 2nd test; expected based on their trend. Not too sure what they were thinking of. India bowling failed in both tests. Did not have that extra "zing" to penetrate the SA batsmen. BCCI, go back to the drawing board.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 3:03 GMT)

@ Greatest Game: Good observations. I also believe that it's time to get rid of trash like Shikhar Dhawan (classic flat track bully), Rohit Sharma (temperamentally vulnerable), Ishant Sharma (ineffectual as always) and Zaheer Khan (believe it or not, after all the hype surrounding his little French sojourn, he was still bowling at less than 120 klicks for most of the Test, and they weren't even deliberate slower balls either)

M.S. Dhoni is not a Test class batsman and that is something that will haunt India till he quits the format. The sooner Pujara or Kohli are groomed for the role the better.

BCCI! Embrace DRS! for God's sake you chaps come across as cavemen for denying the obvious benefits of technology.

India! Prepare fast and bouncy wickets in Ranji Trophy games as well as Test matches going forward, or else you'll always be a second rate side overseas in countries that really matter (South Africa, Australia, England and New Zealand.....in this very order).

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 2:49 GMT)

some people are saying batting was good.... is batting a concern for india???????? what about bowlers ????????????// some one or other will score that is test match even Gillespie has 201* in a test match ... it is bowlers who help you to win a test match ... by removing 20 wickets... 1st 458 and it was a draw y bowlers were not able to take wickets ...................................... bowlers are what india should look for

Posted by Thegimp on (December 31, 2013, 2:47 GMT)

@ Sachin_The_Greatest......Speaking from a completely impartial position (I'm Australian) the difference and preference between Kalis and Tendulka is a no brainer. If I were picking a side tomorrow I would have Kalis in a heartbeat. Higher batting average and nearly three hundred test wickets. I hate to admit it but this guy is possibly the ultimate cricketer and whilst the world has been blinded by Lara, Tendulka and Ponting over the last few years, Kalis has been quietly establishing his side as the one to beat, quiety piling on the runs and taking vital wickets. If Jacques Kallis was Indian or Australian he would have been lauded as the greatest cricketer of all time, alongside Sir Don himself,.

Posted by yamaha_cts on (December 31, 2013, 2:37 GMT)

Well Done SA, this is the Perfect Farewell to KING KALLIS.India needs Bowlers like Dale Steyn or Mitchel Johnson to Win Series Abroad.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 2:30 GMT)

Perfect of perfect ending, ethereal! Even the great Don was not that fortunate I suppose. Best of him was that he was so unassuming while being so competitive & I think he never got involved in serious controversy Thanks for the entertainment Kallis !

Posted by ELPh on (December 31, 2013, 2:30 GMT)

Hope the Indian team management don't proceed to hand the "talented" Mr. R. Sharma a hundred test matches before they finally realize it is a pointless exercise. When the careers and possible contributions of technically sound and hardworking players like Ajinkya Rahane are stalled to accommodate such baggage one tends to wonder who is the behind the scenes benefactor of the "supremely talented one".

Posted by kapilesh23 on (December 31, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

I will be honest, I am terribly disappointed by Virat Kohli, as his fan. This was the moment to shine, this was the moment to show what you got, but he failed. At the same time I also realize that probably I am expecting too much from a young bloke who is only playing his 2nd test match in SA.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 2:23 GMT)

come on mate, indias batting is good but they bowling was poor in 1st test. no other test team woulhave let that game slip from tht psition.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 2:15 GMT)

Reminds me of Pre Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly! Tu chal, main ayaa. Hot tea in dressing room!

Posted by legfinedeep on (December 31, 2013, 1:57 GMT)

Indian fans kept their expectations rockbottom, that anything better than a 2-0 thrashing seems like a win to them :)

Posted by Attacking on (December 31, 2013, 1:51 GMT)

India is now 0-9 in tests away from home.

0-4 in England. 0-4 in Australia. 0-1 in South Africa.

India is utterly hopeless outside their home conditions. If it wasn't for a timid South Africa it would be 0-10.

Indian team is only good at batting which means they won't win tests away from home because they cannot take 20 wickets. Simple as that.

India is definitely not the 2nd best team.

Hopefully New Zealand teaches India a lesson on how to play test cricket.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 1:44 GMT)

More often then not when Tendulkar scored a century for India, they either drew of lost. Check the stats please. When King Kallis scored a century or took wickets or took a brilliant catch, SA won.

Posted by wake_up_india on (December 31, 2013, 1:39 GMT)

A lot was said by the commentators about "good leaves". You cannnot win a test match by leaving every ball outside the stumps. Some balls are clearly too wide to chase but many can be hit by a batsman who knows how to do it, even with a fast, swinging ball. If in doubt, watch the experts of this art like Richards, Gavaskar, Chappel and many others. The miracle is how Gavaskar learned to do it growing up in India. Viru had his own technique, which cannot be learned and which he himslef has forgotten it today. What seemed to have been forgotten by Indian batsmen in the last test match is that controlled offense is the best defence against any kind of bowling. Cricket is a mind game, perhaps more than any other sport. And where was the captain when the Indian bowlers were being taken to the cleaners? He needs to show a little more concern about what is happening. I saw the same attitude at a test match at the Oval. Ganguly's nail biting angst was more befitting a captain.

Posted by Perceptive on (December 31, 2013, 1:13 GMT)

Protears; an apt name. Are you an Indian fan satirising South Africa? Because if you are, brilliant! You talk of greatness being shown in times of pressure? Following a nation universally labelled as chokers! From Donald not running, to basic maths errors, throwing away opportunity after opportunity in trophy after trophy, and bit even going for 16 runs in 3 overs in this very series! But Steyn and Philander were so chatty and brave today whilst ahead!

And Dravid and Sachin went on to obscurity? Sachin, the highest ever run scoters, century scorer, India winners of every major trophy many with his involvement.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 1:12 GMT)

We, India, have a good team, to build for the future. Most of them need some more overseas experience. They are work in process now, After NZ, Australia, &England visits, and if the players are willing to learn & adapt (technically & temperamentally), we will have a top notch team. Let's all have patience.

The opening batsmen may adapt. They have the skills.

A pair of good pace bowlers is the only problem area. Days of Zak is over. Ishant already more than enough chance to develop, but with commensurate success.

Posted by tanmaymore87 on (December 31, 2013, 1:03 GMT)

great end to a glorious career of King Kallis....started watching cricket from 1996 World Cup & one of my childhood cricketers has left test cricket...only Chanderpaul & Mahela remain....rest all are retired from the 90's era. India didnt have great ODI series but great ability displayed by the youngsters in test cricket..the biggest plus have been Rahane & Vijay with Pujara & Kohli who were expected to do well...Vijay finally has proved his critics that he is made for test cricket & he will be one of the shining points for India in test cricket in 2014...Rahane this man from Mulund a eastern suburb in Mumbai had all the talent but was not getting opportunities but now that he has got one he has grabbed it...but the biggest disappointment is MS Dhoni who lacks the ability to score runs in overseas tests....had he spent some more time yesterday the result would have been different...Dinesh Karthick is much better option in tests.

Posted by Macker60 on (December 31, 2013, 1:02 GMT)

India will learn one Day, to bet competitive overseas it needs to develop some Pace bowlers, and I mean True Pace Bowlers, This will not happen why they constantly put up with dust bowls at Home. For a Nation that has Turned out some of the Best Batsmen ans Spin Bowlers in the world, Not to have a Fast Bowler of Note is sending a message there is a Flaw in there Process.

Posted by rezauk on (December 31, 2013, 1:00 GMT)

The reason why SA are top of the tree is that when the pressure is on (Test Matches) they are up for it. Similar to great tennis players who after 2 match points against them go onto win. India have shown they have some quality batting but like all test sides the IPL has caused Bastmen to manufacture shots and wickets aren't all earned in test matches anymore. On the bowling front India seldom produces a quality all round attack - Normally world class spinners and a couple of seamers or vice versa. Basically India need to find a couple of tall quickies who can both seam & swing. For the near future I think SA and Australia will hold all the cards.

Posted by CustomKid on (December 31, 2013, 0:36 GMT)

@A_B_C_D_E_F on (December 30, 2013, 19:40 GMT) Could not have said it better myself.

India always have decent batsmen, but it is high time they (BCCI) started producing some sporting pitches in the Rajistan Cup etc. It will not only benefit them in producing some prodigious pace talent from a pool of 1.2 billion but long term it will teach their batsmen how to handle different conditions that don't always favour them.

They'll never maintain a number 1 ranking for long periods of time when they constantly get exposed on away tours containing seam and bounce. Perhaps they don't want it? Gone are the days or preparation time to acclimatize on tours. They're so packed now, time just doesn't allow it. Their batsman are never going to adjust in the space of 1 week which is the usual prep time.

There is nothing better than seeing a quick bowler ie Styne, Johnson, scaring the life out of batsman. Surely the Indians would like to see this in their team?

Well done J Kallis - Legend.

Posted by Guduji71 on (December 31, 2013, 0:34 GMT)

My analysis of the series is that India almost lost the first test I think SA should have gone for the win in the first test match and second test was won by SA almost by an innings. Ind lost both ODIs, badly. The results don't show that India did remarkably well.

Posted by annys on (December 31, 2013, 0:32 GMT)

Two biggest areas where India need a big change is the pace department and Dhoni's batting. Test matches are won by bowlers and confidence of the captain to perform in his main discipline batting /bowling in any condition is crucial

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 31, 2013, 0:30 GMT)

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:06 GMT) "… first day when IND were in great position ...on 4th evening Ind were in a precarious position .... so SA could make hay on the best days while we had to face the worst days … we could've taken full toll … we could've been …"

… but you are not! You lost. Could have, would have, should have - they all mean NOTHING. India did not win a single match - ODI or test. India escaped being whitewashed by 8 runs in the tests, and by rain in the ODIs. SA should have, could have, would have … but the matches do not count as wins for SA. Things are what they are. This history is set in stone, now. It cannot be undone. SA won, India lost. They both drew. That is That.

Any more should have, could have, would have is the speciality of the Poms and Aussies - it is called whinging. Leave that to them. Move on.

Posted by DaredevilsUnlimited on (December 31, 2013, 0:18 GMT)

Thank God it was not a 3 or 5 match series BCCI should be compimented for the foresight.Bullies of flat wickets and dust bowls of pitches makes heroes of lesser immortals. Only Rahane,Kohli and Shammi can be classified as players of international stature though they are still young the rest are heroes in India and zeros abroad .Cricket fans are to be blamed apart from cricketers and administratorsfor this hype. Kallis is the best cricketer the world has seen in last five decades be it in batting,bowling and fielding and is a poor man by the standards set by the income of Indian crackers.

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (December 31, 2013, 0:13 GMT)

SA is a well deserved No.1 ranked team and they have shown character. Something that Indian players lacked. India has failed at first hurdle. Dhoni and Co are as usual trying to hige behind hollow rankings that mean nothing. Pakistan beat SA in a test match that India could not manage on batsmen friendly tracks. Pakistan even managed to beat SA in SA in an ODI series and Pakistan is not supposed to be top ranked team. ICC rankings are flawed and they make as much sense as claims that Tendulkar was better than Kallis. In current form, SA, Australia and Pakistan are three top ranked test and ODI teams. India and England are behind the top.3. Status and results show that. The claims that difference was Steyn are also misleading. Indeed Steyn destroyed much hyped Indian batting in ODi and test series, but real difference was how SA batsmen stood up in second inning of first test and first inning of second test. That was difference SA batting. India's bowling failed but so did batting!

Posted by Chris_P on (December 31, 2013, 0:12 GMT)

@Shan156. All well & good for your England prediction, but who is going to take the 20 wickets needed for victory? We did the Poms in with sustained hostile fast bowling, MJ regularly clocking 150, Harris in the high 140's & Siddle often nudging the 140-145 bracket. This is what did England in. They are, despite the scoreline, still a classy batting side as shown by their efforts In India less than 12 months ago. Trott will return, Bell, Cook, KP are still prized wickets. Their bowling, so long their safety card is looking more shaky, but on their own turf will still be a very, very tough unit to beat. I'll watch with interest. Agree with @A_B_C_D_E_F, as long as you keep producing roads, this will only di-incentivize any potential quick bowlers & take confidence away from guys like Umesh.

Posted by   on (December 31, 2013, 0:11 GMT)

South Africa is a one man team.Take Steyn out and you have two [barely] above ordinary bowlers. We don't need to look too far back but for the first test match. Steyn had a stinker and SA didn't have a good game. This team is no comparison to the Aussies of Steve Waugh and the WI of the 80s. Now that Kallis is out of the equation as the Fourth bowler, the future will tell us how good the other two will be with an extra work load. A legend has retired and I and a million cricket fans are richer for the experience of watching a true servant of the sport of Cricket. Thank you Jacque.

Posted by AidanFX on (December 31, 2013, 0:07 GMT)

It was a great effort by SA to win - still think Smith and SA tactics were ultra-conservative but they won so they are vindicated. Steyn really is an incredibly good bowler.

I am amazed to read Indian fans complaining about umpiring. India do not have DRS so stop winging. There is no conspiracy against the nation of India. And to those like the BCCI who say it is not perfect technology yet - that is like saying we will not accept technology until God almighty is the third umpire. But at least accept the howlers as 'just part of the game' if you are not going to accept the additional DRS technology.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 23:45 GMT)

Rohit Sharma must go. Promote Jadeja to Rohit's spot. Ashwin and Jadeja combined can score more than Rohit. India needs at least one more bowler.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 30, 2013, 23:20 GMT)

It's time we replaced Dhoni in TESTS. Gambhir should come in and take charge. Rohit dropped an important catch in the first test and has been useless with the bat, he and Dhawan need to be replaced. Gambhir has the footwork and needs to play in the middle. We need a wicketkeeper who can bat. Kholi can be the vice. Apart from Shami and Jadeja the bowlers need replacing. Wholesome changes is the solution for foreign tours. Pujara, Vijay, Kohli and Rahane have been outstanding. A-team trials for Manpreet Juneja, Kiwonjit Singh, KL Rahul and Manoj Tiwari.

Posted by jb633 on (December 30, 2013, 23:16 GMT)

I believe both sides can take positives from this series. Having watched a lot of Indian cricket of the last 2 years it has not surprised me to see their batting fire. They are a good, solid emerging side and will be a force over the next 5 years. As for SA, they are the best outfit in the world and will constantly prove this. No more questions need be asked of the no 1 outfit. I believe going forward India will be favourites when they play against us (England ) in the summer and I will be very surprised if we can take 20 wickets and score anything above 350. I expect the SA series to be closely contested with Oz but SA are a much stronger side and I anticipate a whitewash in their favour. Exciting times for both sets of fans I imagine. Hard not be jealous whilst watching our ashes debacle.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 23:14 GMT)

How do you win a Test match if you cannot take 20 wickets? Do you expect your batsmen to bail you out every single time? If I was a bowler in the Indian Team, I would really be embarassed with myself. The bowlers are a let down and keeping this Team away from greatness.

Posted by anjum170674 on (December 30, 2013, 22:41 GMT)

India is outplayed in ODIs by south africa but in tests i think india really played very well.so few teams has batted so well in SA during last few years.I guess if asian teams also learn to sledge the SAs and Aussies they can have much better results.No doubt steyn is great bowler but many wickets he grabs just to threaten set batsmen with his verbal abuse.Actually same negatie tactics were used many times by Glenn Mcgrath and Shane warne also. To see indian batting it feels if they manage to get the mental strength and cope with sldging they can take any team on any ground. Indian bowling also feeling quite good albeit not so success on this tour.only what they need is to be expert in sledging to get rid of set batsmen.

Posted by kbza86 on (December 30, 2013, 22:22 GMT)

yes we are all sad that Kallis has left the scene(very sad)..but we always new this day would come and it finally has.I'm sure there are plans post retirement..ill support any decision BIffy and Domingo take..but here is my suggestion: 1.Petersen, 2.Biff 3.Faf/elgar 4.Amla 5.ABD 6. JPD 7.Mclaren 8.Peterson 9. Big Vern 10.Steyn 11.Mornas

Simply because our strength has always been our seam and batting (ie:Donald, Pollock, Pollock, Pollock, Barry Richards, Eddie Barlow, fanie, goddard etc) we will always find another allrounder just a matter of time...just need someone to fill in till then...

Posted by Mervo on (December 30, 2013, 22:13 GMT)

The differences here were Steyn, Philander and Kallis. The wickets in SA have never seemed more benign and clearly favoured spin this series. Yet SA are such strong team mentally and physically. India's ranking was too high and there is a gap between SA and the rest of the teams around the world. And this from an Australian ...

Posted by JG2704 on (December 30, 2013, 21:55 GMT)

@gimme-a-greentop on (December 30, 2013, 18:57 GMT) Must confess as an Englishman I'm not huge re knowledge of SA cricket. For me Smith,Alviro,Amla,AB,Faf,Philander,Steyn and Morkel are all certs for the immediate future. JP and RP are not shoe ins for my money either. I'd always go with the extra bowler if the number 6 (JP) isn't contributing so yes I'd more likely squeeze an extra paceman in there. TBH Elgar played in England for Somerset and was pretty poor. Maybe he was just going through a lean period and is better than that.

Posted by jahbert58 on (December 30, 2013, 21:53 GMT)

WHY!! The ashes is the only 5 test match played series these days? why can't we have the same SA-INDIA..GOOD FOR CRICKET.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 21:51 GMT)

Like any other overseas test series, Dhoni failed as a captain.

Posted by InSINuATE on (December 30, 2013, 21:40 GMT)

Virat the worlds most amazing player made = 46 runs versus Steyn's 44!! I think that just tells me how amazing of a batsman Virat is outside of Indian flat pitches.

Posted by quittthewhinging on (December 30, 2013, 21:34 GMT)

A couple thoughts off the top of my head. India has some incredible batting talent coming through. Pujara = a Test match batsman ala Dravid/Kallis. Kohli - have to always remind myself he is only 22/23 years old. But future captain? Probably but I don't really like his aggresive temperament. Needs to cool it. Rahane - my favorite ever since I saw him in IPL. Classy player. The fact that Steyn sledged him, reflects his quality. Dhawan - more suited to ODI & T20. Vijay - should be persevered with. Dhoni - unappreciated by Indian fans. I like his cool demeanour. Ashwin - sorry overrated. Posed no threat. Bowlers? Quicks are pedestrian. India should go with the leggies not Ashwin.

SA's strength is being so difficult to be bowled out twice. They bat right into the tail, e.g. Petersen & Philander. Those extra 50 runs in an innings count. And the quicks are good by any standard. Good batsmen at the top - Amla/de Villiers ++. Good captain.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 21:14 GMT)

I only have two bits of advice for BCCI.

1. Adopt DRS otherwise whenever bad decisions are given, the fingers will point at you for both being isolated from the rest of the world and keeping your fans in the stone age of cricket.

2. Prepare bowling friendly wickets and not the ones that allow targets of 350 to be chased with ease in ODIS. Otherwise why would anyone sweat in hot climates of the sub continet to bowl fast ? And that goes for all sub continent teams since Aus, Eng and SA win all over the world while subcontinent teams struggle everywhere outside.

A piece of advice to Indian fans. Have respect for legends from other countries like Steyn, else your own words will come to bite you badly as has happened here.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 21:12 GMT)

i knew india would loose this test the moment kohli got out. courtesy poor umpiring

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (December 30, 2013, 21:06 GMT)

Steyn was a treat to watch. Kallis, the superstar of world cricket, retiring from Tests? A well deserved victory to SA. As for our team, there are some silver linings, as posted by others in this column. India should seriously start considering a Test team for India and another for foreign tours. The follow should be removed from the foreign tours Test team - Fletcher, Dhoni, Rohit, Dhawan, Zaheer. These people should feel the fear of not performing. Secondly, drop all the old guard no matter how hard they feel they "want" to play for India. Finally, there is nothing new this tour has taught Team India that we haven't already been taught over the last decade. We simply haven't learnt.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 20:59 GMT)

The reality is when India win another few matches at home all this will be forgotten again! This tour is worse for them without a single victory including ODI. Nothing much can be done, BCCI has other objectives. Unfortunately money can't buy the RESULTS they would like! Haroon Lagart is the winner!

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 20:56 GMT)

Is there a way that I can stop the video on these reports from starting automatically? I am at work and occasionally check the report and reload the page for newly added comments......and since I am on mute.. I do not often realize that the video is running....

I do not want the network traffic get noticed.. and god forbid...they block cricinfo.com @ work...... Any ideas?

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 20:49 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa

Coming to DRS, I agree something is better than nothing..

I sincerely hope that BCCI's reluctance to DRS, is their way of showing non-cooperation so that ICC comes up with a more meaningful guidelines to using existing technology....Because for now it is this reluctance that is pushing the technology to get better... try alternate sources like snicko and slow-mo..

Because once everyone accepts DRS in its current form... I doubt there will be enough push for the technology or the rules to get better.......Once a rule is in.... everyone will just try to adapt and concentrate on working around it...

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 20:49 GMT)

@aussie1993 on (December 30, 2013, 13:34 GMT) "congratulations to sa from an aussie nd india after odi drumping and 1 lucky draw test now lost the final on durban sub continent track"

aussie1993... mate, if you're aussie then i am martian ;p

@Harmony111 well said

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 20:42 GMT)

We were so fortunate to see greats like Lara,Tendulkar,Ponting,Steve Waugh Kallis,true greats of the game.

I dont want to compare Tendulkar to Kallis..both were equally great in their own ways for different reasons and their legacies can be seen in the influence they left on their teams...both left when their teams were much stronger than when they had started.Amla,A.B,Faf for S.A and Pujara,Rehane,Kholi for India are world class already or getting there ad are directly influenced by the greatness of Jacques and Sachin for their respective teams.

Posted by Chris_P on (December 30, 2013, 20:42 GMT)

@Protears . Pretty good summary. Well done to your lot, I can only imagine how it could have gone had you prepared true South African wickets rather than these slower ones. What gives anyway? Looking forward to our lot going there, no doubt you guys are favourites, hopefully we'll see the usual tough contest. I just hope the knockers from other countries don't post & we only read positive posts, but we all live in hope. Cheers.

Posted by eng_mdkhan on (December 30, 2013, 20:27 GMT)

South Africa justified its no.1 ranking and India did well to defend theirs. However, with the exception of Rohit and captaincy of Dhoni future does not look so bleak anymore. Congrats SA and well done India helluva series wish we could see some more matches between these two.

Posted by r1m2 on (December 30, 2013, 20:17 GMT)

My verdict: Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma are flat track weak attack bullies. Ravindra Jadeja is not international class batsman regardless of the surface, though his bowling seems okay at the moment. I do not think it'll pass the test of time. Murali Vijay is never going to be consistent, and his time is up to get better. For the time being he's a good option. Pujara and Rahane prooved themselves as international quality. Mohammad Shami definitely got the goods. Zahir Khan still got the goods. Ishant Sharma lost the goods when IPL season one started. Since then he's been the Mohammad Sami of India. Ravichandran Ashwin is Narendra Hirwani reborn (only as far as bowling is concerned), i.e. give him Indian pitches and he'll do well against most teams. Go out of India or most likely other sub-continent pitches and crowd and he's lost. His late order batting though is useful, if he could manage to bring his bowling quality up on non-subcontinent pitches.

Posted by Smithie on (December 30, 2013, 20:11 GMT)

BCCI myopia re DRS costs India dearly again. Time for the players and coaching staff to present a united front and insist that India have the benefit of a level playing field.

Posted by AamirKhan-SuperStar on (December 30, 2013, 19:59 GMT)

Must be a satisfaying win for the proteas. But there are many positives for India to take home from here. Watching Rahane since his Mumbai vs Maharashtra days, he clearly used to be the most stylish batsman then, i am just glad he performed as expected. All young players will only get better from here, Dhawan, Murali, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit, Rahane etc may have lost the series but learnt some very good lessons. I look forward to watching these guys play in the upcoming tours of NZ, Eng, Aus tests..

Posted by Jimmyvida on (December 30, 2013, 19:55 GMT)

Let's stop crying and look to the future. India has a good batting line up, period. Did anyone say Steyn cannot bowl when Sehwag scored his triple against them. You will notice however, that against Australia the wickets will be more batsmen friendly. We'll all be around to see. Starting with no Wanderers test, and no slightly short of a length ball flying up to the batsman's chest. No! no such thing. And for the Rohit haters, do you have any idea why Steyn sledged Rohit. If Stein is a smart, knowledgeable and fierce bowler, why did he choose to sledge Rohit. He knew that Rohit was the guy who should not be allowed to get away. Upset him. And for my very last comment on this blog: Both Ashwin and Jadeja should have played, as batsmen/bowlers. Ashwin bowled very well in the second innings of the first test: look at his pitch map.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 19:48 GMT)

It is easy to play from a position of power but character is assessed from adversity and India failed with flying colours.

Pujara and Kholi came out on Day 4 needing to elevate India to 500 run lead in the Lunch - Tea session, they batted so slowly that they lost time in trying to set the end 458 after a massive collapse which handed the momentum away.

Day 5 struggling to take wickets to the point they were close to losing a test match defending 458.

181/1 to 334 all out

68/2 starting day 5 on a flat deck needing to save a test match capitulating to a massive defeat, apart from Rahane nobody showed any application or backbone to salvage the game. It is moments of pressure when all is on the line that define greatness, playing from the front is easy, playing from behind is where class is defined.

Posted by Ibanezfan on (December 30, 2013, 19:48 GMT)

Congrats to South Africa on a good win. They looked the better, hungrier team in this match. Resumption of regular service by Steyn and India are sent packing. Maybe he read the comments on Cricinfo, eh? :) Happy for Kallis. Nice end to a great career. What a player! To India's credit, they were right in it for the majority of the test series, which is more than all of us expected. But India do need to take a hard look at their overall test squad and specifically whether their test captain is actually bringing any skills to the ground. Dhoni and Rohit have been total disappointments in this series. Tellingly, the worst of it is we expect no better from Dhoni and seem to be fine with it. It's laughable that some people claim Rohit played well in the second innings. Time to give Rayudu and Saha chances. I doubt they'd do any worse. For the upcoming tours, India should stick with 3 fast bowlers & train Ashwin & Jadeja as bowling all rounders.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (December 30, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

Pujara - Pass A+. Great batting temperament & technique. Big future. Rahane - Pass, A+. Like Pujara, & clearly fearless. Up the order. Kohli - Pass, A. Temperament has improved, still his weakness. Shami - Pass. A. Needs time on bowling tracks to complete his skill set. Vijay - Pass. Occupied the crease. Scored runs. Must do both. Jadega - Pass/Fail. Tireless, incisive bowling. Gave away his wicket. Irresponsible. Rohit - Fail. Nohit. Steyn broke him. Enough said. Dhawan - Complete Fail, test & ODI. Bully. Can only play on roads. Ishant - Did anyone expect anything different? Zak - Retire, now. Ashwin - Stay in India. Dhoni - Fail, as keeper, batsman & skipper, but who could successfully captain India? Not Virat, bad temperament.

India's test batting nucleus is great! Nohit & Dhawan are baggage. (SA's bowlers are better bats! Check the stats!)

Shami can't be the only pace bowler in India? Zak & Ishant are a liability.

Overall - India did well with only 6 good players, and Dhoni.

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 19:46 GMT)

i can not emphasise enough how much that SA walking off on that 1st day 3rd session cost us. stats of past matches in durban shows day 1 & 3 are by far best for batting & day 2, 4 & 5 are tough. http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/content/story/703689.html

so SA could make hay on the best days while we had to face the worst days. SA of course knew this & so took advantage of it & walked off when India could've driven home advantage of tired bowlers on 1st day

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 30, 2013, 19:45 GMT)

India needs big, strong pace bowlers. Pankaj Singh and Imtiaz Ahmed are 2 such bowlers playing in Ranji Trophy and doing quite well. Why not try them instead of mediocre Ishant Sharma and Mohit Sharma? Varun Aron is another good bowler, but he has a tendency to break down.

Rishi Dhawan/Irfan/Yusuf Pathan can fill in the role of all rounder. Please stop calling Sir Jadeja an all rounder. He is just a left arm slow bowler.

Posted by A_B_C_D_E_F on (December 30, 2013, 19:40 GMT)

Most of the Indian fans are critical of their "fast" bowlers (and rightfully so). The problem is that as a nation, their focus is only on batsman and run making. In this quest to see millions and billions of runs scored, they prepare flat pitches that are only suitable for batting. How do you expect to produce fast bowlers in such an environment? You telling me that out of a population of 1.2+ billion cricket fanatics they can't find someone who can bowl faster than 135km/h? Problem is that there is no incentive. Why try and be the next Zaheer Khan and slog away on flat tracks when its so much easier to be the next Tendulkar on those same flat tracks?

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 19:38 GMT)

@bhushanB I have thoroughly enjoyed your commentary during this series and long may it continue good Sir. Well played on a tough fought series.

I 100% agree with you regarding DRS, as I also believe it needs to involve a 3rd umpire to assist in making the decision but this transformation will take time. My plight is that the current system which is not perfect is being completely dispelled by the BCCI as its not '100 % accurate' . My argument lets keep using DRS as it does eradicate howlers and it will be fined tuned and improved as we go along, hopefully at some point including 3rd umpires in the picture.

To sum up, I would rather be using a 'broken DRS' system that is at least 90% accurate than watch Virat Kohli or Kallis unfairly be given out, robbing us of the spectacle of their talent.

Posted by Shan156 on (December 30, 2013, 19:34 GMT)

Tough luck India but it is heartening that they actually did vey well than the 10 wicket defeat suggests. The batting is in safe hands with the likes of Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. However, they are in urgent need of some good bowlers. Why they wouldn't pick Umesh is a mystery?

Despite the series defeat, India are now a force to reckon with and clearly the best #2 side in the world. Aussies may edge them for a while but India has a young team and will rule test cricket for a while. With England in turmoil, India will start their away series next summer as hot favorites. It is a 5 test series and while I don't think India will achieve a whitewash, Eng's brittle batting is bound to collapse at least 2 or 3 times and with India's strong batting, they should easily win the series. Their next away series in Aus. would be tough but it won't be easy for Aus. either as the Indian batting is much stronger than England's and their batsmen will be more experienced by that time.

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 30, 2013, 19:33 GMT)

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

you are spot on mate, the diffrnce between two teams is dale steyn. we negotiated him well in wanderes and we were closer to wining a test match, over here he was def. a huge factor. Unfortunately we do not have anybody like steyn or jhonson.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 30, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

i have utmost regards for kallis, but just check the number of ppl attending final test match of both the legends. GOD title given to tendulkar is not only for how many runs has he scored or the manner in which he has scored. its about how much you inspire people in general, pulling crowds to test matches keeping test cricket alive (in tendulkar's case he has indeed revived test cricket) Kallis was always on a winning team(strong bowling attack),sachin was not.

And what about pressure? kallis said it was good that he was not on strike after the guard of honor. sachin came to bat with hopes & pressure of billion ppl evry single time

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 19:24 GMT)

This may seem like a pessimistic analysis to some IND fans, but...

INDIA showed several improvement compared to their last 2 AWAY white washes...

1.) Batted 100+ overs consistently 2.) Crossed 300+ consistently 3.) Won several sessions and at times days in the tests 4.) ran through opposition, at least in the first innings...rather than waiting for them to declare 5.) Managed a first innings lead 6.) Almost won the first test, fought back in the second 7.) Younger batsmen showed that they belonged...showed the application, dedication, put a price on their wicket, showed their hunger for runs 8.) Pacers gave a scare to SA batsmen in the first innings of the first test......Away teams will now think twice before opting for those green lawns for the pitches 9.) No innings defeat 10.) Took both matches to the 5th day, final session

If the IND fans leave aside the unwarranted bragging and look honestly inside... they will surely understand that this team has achieved a lot than the 0-1

Posted by Sachin_The_Greatest on (December 30, 2013, 19:23 GMT)

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

you are spot on mate, the diffrnce between two teams is dale steyn. we negotiated him well in wanderes and we were closer to wining a test match, over here he was def. a huge factor. Unfortunately we do not have anybody like steyn or jhonson.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 30, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

i have utmost regards for kallis, but just check the number of ppl attending final test match of both the legends. GOD title given to tendulkar is not only for how many runs has he scored or the manner in which he has scored. its about how much you inspire people in general, pulling crowds to test matches keeping test cricket alive (in tendulkar's case he has indeed revived test cricket) Kallis was always on a winning team(strong bowling attack),sachin was not.

And what about pressure? kallis said it was good that he was not on strike after the guard of honor. sachin came to bat with hopes & pressure of billion ppl evry single time

Posted by Lotr3 on (December 30, 2013, 19:13 GMT)

Let's not miss the fact that this Ind squad was not expected to last a full 5 days in either test, so to have taken such a strong SA lineup to the last day of the series to get a result is a huge plus for team Ind. Great going by the guys, you all want them to win but facing such odds including an inexperienced lineup of their own, they proved that they do have fight in them. Have Ind gained here, Yes, Did SA loose some ground, maybe, did Test Cricket win, YES!!!

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 19:09 GMT)

I don't understand why people are making this out like South Africa has reached the watershed, with Kallis retired the older statesmen are Robin Peterson. Alviro Peterson and Imran Tahir at 33, Followed by Smith at 31 and Steyn and Amla at 30 and we have plenty of talent in the domestic system both bat and ball, the most promising is a 20 year old called Quinton De Kock whom India found out a lot about.

Pujara and Kholi et al are going to suffer the same obscurity as Sachin and Co did, without bowlers or sub standard bowlers who cannot take wickets on pitches that are not sand bowls on day one are the reason why in the end they will achieve nothing.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 19:07 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa

DRS.... the technology is good and it is getting better day by day... It is based on science and will only get better with time.... but the way it is used.. that is a different story altogether.....the rules are stupid.

... Should be used in any way that it helps make better decisions.....

1.) Once the decision is referred, leave it to the third umpire... after all he is equally qualified as the two on-field umpires... Let him use all the evidence that the technology provides and give the decision... Now all the crap about on-field umpire's decision remains.. if in-conclusive.... that is the stupid part...

2.) The on-field umpires should refer any decision they are not 100% sure about... Say those sounds from bat hitting shoe laces, chains hitting helmets.. and as such...possible bat in a lbw decision.. possible pad first in a close-in catch etc....

3.) If the umpires can use the no 2, to the best of their ability, there wont be as many howlers to begin with

Posted by vik56in on (December 30, 2013, 19:06 GMT)

Shikar Dhawan as an opener is a failure in seaming conditions.He is a flat track bully.Ishant Sharma will be a passenger in the team for another 5 yrs with the odd performances.Sreesanth was driven to destruction by the selector's insistence on picking Ishant over him..And now look what Ishant's outputs in return for the selector's faith in him.

Posted by Jimmyvida on (December 30, 2013, 19:00 GMT)

WHY KALLIS IS THE GREATEST. Figures don't lie: Ponting: 13,378 runs, 5 wkts, 196 catches Tendulkar: 15,921 runs, 46 wkts, 115 catches Lara: 11,951 runs, 0 wkts, 164 catches Sobers: 8,032 runs, 235 wkts. 109 catches, and finally: Kallis: 13,289 runs, 292 wkts, 200 catches

Are these figures telling lies. Clearly, who stands out? Its Kallis You can like whoever you want, but the greatest is Kallis.

Posted by pulkit10 on (December 30, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

For SA: a bit of a shocker for them. India came on top in a few sessions and nearly ran away with the game and both times, it took a special performance by key players to bring them back. In the first game, it was Kallis who made the breakthroughs with the ball and de Villiers/du Plessis with the bat while in the second, it was Steyn with the ball and Kallis with the bat.

They can't afford this too much. In the end, several of their players came through but they need to become more ruthless if they want an extended stay on top and that's absolutely crucial with Kallis departing - they are both a bowler and a batsman short now. Steyn was, as usual, brilliant - just goes to show how important it is to have a bowler that can literally produce wickets on a lifeless track and Kallis was magnificent. Contributed admirably well with both bat/ball and is stepping down on a high - the least a man of his caliber deserves. You'll be sorely missed, Jacques.

Posted by gimme-a-greentop on (December 30, 2013, 18:57 GMT)

@JG2704 .. I had the same thought as you, as to whether Smith should send Kallis in to open or not. The fact of the matter is I think he was actually a bit injured, he tweaked his hammie while batting and didn't even bowl in the second innings, which could only have been due to injury. So I think the way it worked out was good, as you say...go out on a high like few have. I commented at the conclusion of the previous match that SA were playing the big picture and Steyn would come out frothing to do well (well, it was obvious), and so it proved. This team should get more recognition for what they have achieved in Test cricket. They are so hard to beat in a series. The Test mace is an ICC trophy in my mind, and more than makes up for SA's inability to win a World Cup. Lastly...all pace attack for the Aussies - Steyn, Philander, Morkel, Abbott? or Elgar in for Kallis?

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 30, 2013, 18:54 GMT)

@Posted by IndCrab on (December 30, 2013,)We must have world class fast bowler to do well Outside subcontinent.We should find bowlers who could consistently bowl above 140 with line length.Take Varun Aaron,Anwar Ahmed , Irfan,Rishi Dhawan,Manoj Tiwary,Dinesh Karthik,Shabaz Nadim,Unmukt Chand,Mandeep Singh.Reject Zaku Khan,Ishant ,walking wicket wonders Rohit , Dhawan & footless Dhobi.

Varun bowls @140,I dont know abt Anwar but definitely Rishi Irfan bowls @130 which wont be enough.But yea one of them can play overseas as 5th bowler with Jadeja also in.So we will have 4 pacers+one spinner who bowls straight unlike Ashwin.Then in some pitches assisting spinners we can also replace pacer(medium) with genuine spinner like Mishra.Not many teams play leg spinner that well these days.And of course DK for Dhoni.If Rohit/Dhawan dont perform next series then think of Ghambir,Mandeep,Juneja or my fav Tiwary.this guy is very good but Dhobi dont like him.Will dat happen,never, knowing IND cricket!

Posted by pulkit10 on (December 30, 2013, 18:52 GMT)

For India: Had a pretty good series and with a bit of luck and better bowling, the scoreline could have easily been the other way round and that's saying something because SA are an exceptionally good team. The batting was, of course, the best bit - the fact that it took a Steyn special to get rid of Vijay, Pujara and Kohli pretty much sums it up. All batsmen, apart from Rohit (and maybe Dhawan) performed incredibly well. Rahane and Vijay, in particular, were excellent and the batting future of the side is in safe hands.

The bowling, though, needs a lot of work. Shami was the only good seamer - Zaheer/Ishant were ineffective. Ishant, especially, needs to be shown the door to domestic cricket. India made a tactical blunder by not having both Ashwin and Jadeja - they should have swapped Rohit for Jadeja and moved Rahane up. Would have given a 5 man attack for Dhoni to play with - improving the chances of wicket taking immensely.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 18:50 GMT)

India lost this match because of dropping of Ashwin for Jadeja, See this Durban pitch had assisted much more bounce and turn. Look how much turn does Peterson got. And Ashwin might get much more bounce and turn than Jadeja as He can flight and dip the ball nicely... I can bet you 100% that even JAdeja may have not got single wicket in first test as it was very tough and Ashwin bowled brilliantly in 1st Test batch.. In 2nd Test if ashwin had been in team then he might scored some 70-100 runs in total and may got 5-7 wickets that india might Draw this series... Pathetic selection by Dhoni... Many fools thinking that Jadeja bowls better but the reality is this pitch offered more bounce and quick turn...

Posted by abhi_242671 on (December 30, 2013, 18:35 GMT)

Sorry to see People only targeting Rohit. It seems there are many who don't care about anything but only Rohit's failure.Apart from the first ODI Rohit never looks in any trouble. Even today he was looking very good during his brief stay. In the second innings of the 1st test he was very unlucky. People should realize it is his first overseas test tour. Last time Pujara also failed terribly in SA , Kohli was also struggling in Australi in his first 4-5 innings and the same people in Cricinfo wrote him off . We shouldn't be very judgmental too early. Rohit is a class player and will comeback strongly.

Posted by rahulkb on (December 30, 2013, 18:16 GMT)

For those who are calling for Karthik over Dhoni in Tests, I can totally understand your reasons. But then we'll have to drop Vijay as I highly doubt that they can play together by looking at what happened btwn Karthik and Vijay off the cricket field..:)

Posted by docarw on (December 30, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

A completely overlooked aspect of the Kallis factor in this series is the fact that he took the first 4 wickets in India's mammoth second innings in the first test. He did that so often, and his bowling efforts were so often overlooked and ignored. He had a great series overall. I'm a bit bummed he quit at this stage because he was so close to some big stats - 300 wickets, most catches ever, 3rd most centuries - all stats that he was not far from. But I guess he really wanted to win the world cup more than he wanted to break more records. Good for him. I'm glad he picked one or the other, because I don't think playing a bit part in both was doing SA or him any favours. Goodbye JK - probably won't see the likes again in my lifetime.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 18:12 GMT)

Hey why you all are crying either for MSD's head or be it Rohit or Ashwin. 1 thing you need to understand is apart from the West Indies the other teams including the Bangladesh has a at-least a part of their nucleus impact, if not fully. But frankly speaking how many played the 2011 series in South Africa. Only one member ironically MSD although Ishant & Zaheer was there both of them have not played regularly. Okay I accept the Odi's are very disappointing as I always stress my School-team & College team "I don't mind losing but at-least fight till the last chips down." But South Africa are mighty lucky to have escaped with a draw in the I test. (I agree both AB Devilliers & Du Plesis played exceptionally but it's a pity that they neither received any unplayable delivery nor any horrendous decision). My only regret is 3 of our batsmen getting out on 90's although Kohli & Rahane's 96 would not have turned the match but certainly Murali Vijay 's 97 would have turned the match somewhat.

Posted by IndCrab on (December 30, 2013, 18:08 GMT)

Our bowling is even worse than being mediocre. We need to address our bowling issue seriously and start nurturing young fast bowlers. First Test was ours and our bowlers failed us. We must have world class fast bowler to do well Outside subcontinent. We should find bowlers who could consistently bowl above 140 km with line and length. Take Varun Aaron , Anwar Ahmed , Irfan , Rishi Dhawan , Manoj Tiwary , Dinesh Karthik , Shabaz Nadim , Unmukt Chand , Mandeep Singh. Reject Zaku Khan , Ishant , walking wicket wonders Rohit , Dhawan and footless Dhobi

Posted by GRVJPR on (December 30, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

I have been yelling for years that for god sake look for quality bowlers rather than just concentration on best batsmen. We (India) always have the best batsmen. Even in this series the top 3 run getters from bothe sides are India's and that too when they were facing the best bowling attack in the word. What we need is to shift out attention to the bowling front and find 5 to 6 fit and express bowlers of long height (preferably ) who can hit the deck and extract disconcerting bounce off the tracks. It will solve most problems and will even make Dhoni look a better captain then what he looks currently with mediocre bowling attack. Batsmen for me, all done well, including Dhawan. You can expect the world number 1,2 bowlers to trouble the young Dhawan but he will do well against other attacks with more experience.

Posted by akhilraj on (December 30, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

Why do people always consider the failures of rohit to be so unacceptable..The Idian team batting hero Virat KOHLI was also been a failure in Australian tour for the first 3 tests..then he came up wid a century..so lets hope for dat.. If u hav to compare..the compare Rohit wid SA's best batsmen Hashim AMLA,he couldnt score runs in both the tests dat too in home conditions..then y r u blaming Rohit who jus begun his career wid 2 centuries jus for his 1st abroad series failuree.. We all know dat he is a fine player,so stop comparing wid steyn and support his comments which r jus crap..we hav to Support our player instead of blaming and criticisng which adds to become him worsee..

Posted by Albert_cambell on (December 30, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

It was a great win for us. Sad to see the real god of cricket kallis is retiring.He could have easily broken sachins record after playing for 2 more years. But instead he simply considers teams future and announces his retirement. Even in his last test match he scored a 100 for his team.He is real god of cricket. Most of everyone will agree on this Kallis>>>>>>>>Sachin.

Posted by Perceptive on (December 30, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

Great Test series, the team that wanted it more own, which is fair and right.

Many positives for India, bashing Steyn is foolish as he has been the best pacer for some time. His talk is hot air designed to fluster batsmen, he seems a good bloke.n the best response is to stay calm and let your bat talk, like Yuvi did with Flintoff with 6 6s.

Dhiwani will develop as will Rohit and Rahane is class. Dhoni is my biggest concern as a batsman. We should bring in Yadav for I Sharma, he has run out of chances. The lack of wickets I can live with; the profligate freebies I cannot.

SA fans should not get too boosted. SA team is ending a cycle, India is beginning theirs, and India achieved much more in their halcyon days.

Posted by anupkeni on (December 30, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

Dhoni's batting record in test matches in overseas conditions is pretty ordinary and in this series he has done nothing to improve that record. Being the most experienced batsmen in the Indian test team, he could have spend more time at he crease, but he got out to playing rash shots in all the four innings with highest score of just 29, which is pretty poor considering the fact that he is also the captain of the Indian team. Because of Dhoni's poor form India lost the last 5 wickets pretty cheaply in all the four innings of this test series and this was the main difference between the two sides. Also Zaheer Khan's bowling in this series has been pretty pedestrian. The Indian seam bowling attack is pretty inept even on helpful South African pitches. Looking at this test series it is obvious that South Africa was the superior side and India was the inferior side. Infact, India were lucky to escape with just a 1-0 defeat. This could well have been a 2-0 rout for Team India.

Posted by bplusa on (December 30, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

Congratulations to South Africa for this magnificant win; full marks to Steyn & Kallis for putting up a wonderful show.For Indian Team I think they should go back home and plan how to maxmize their wealth through IPL because winning Overseas seems MISSION IMPOSSIBLE .

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:44 GMT)

The gutting thing about this loss is that it's hard to see how to solve the problems our team has. Our batters did really well, and put the team on top 3 out of 4 times, but our pace bowlers were simply not effective at all, since that first innings at Wanderers. And we just don't seem to have the pace bowling resources to solve that problem anytime soon. It will seem desperate but I think for the immediate future, we should go in with two spinners even in away tests, unless it's a very very pace-friendly wicket.

Posted by diri on (December 30, 2013, 17:43 GMT)

King Kallis ...The king of kings...The most valuable player the world has ever seen or will see. There will never be another like him again. India can think Sachin was the greatest but the rest of the world knows that Kallis was better and more valuable. If my life depended on it I would rather have kallis at the crease instead of Sachin....Thank you KING Kallis. We will miss you

Posted by akhilraj on (December 30, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

Why do people always see the failures of rohit that badly.the one batsmen who had done well in this series KOHLI has also been a failure in australia for the first 3 tests..nd then he came up wid a century..so lets hope 4 dat.. And even if u hav to compare.y dnt u compare rohit wid hashim Amla who is the best batsmen of SA couldnt score any runs..do not jus blame anyone jus by 1 series..we hav to support them instead of supporting steyn and make him even worsee..

Posted by khurramsch on (December 30, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

Many people here comparing pak tour to SA with this 1 and saying that india did well than pak. Pak was no5 when they tour. India no2. And india dif well than most of teams. But 1 must agree that loss is a loss. You can say that oh we did well but end result is that india lost it. And no doubt they did well. They are no2 for a reason. I dont take that home and away argument for rankings.

Having said that, to all those who are saying that we scored this and pak got out at 50. a question to these: if criteria is that what both did against SA in SA then shall we use same rule for odis?

Where a no6 team beaten SA in odi series a week before no1 odi team was thrashed by SA ?

Same rule the?

Point i am making to especially those who bring up these comparing things.

Posted by akhilraj on (December 30, 2013, 17:37 GMT)

Why do people always see the failures of rohit that badly.the one batsmen who had done well in this series KOHLI has also been a failure in australia for the first 3 tests..nd then he came up wid a century..so lets hope 4 dat.. And even if u hav to compare.y dnt u compare rohit wid hashim Amla who is the best batsmen of SA couldnt score any runs..do not jus blame anyone jus by 1 series..we hav to support them instead of supporting steyn and make him even worsee..

Posted by Biggus on (December 30, 2013, 17:33 GMT)

I think the series result flatters India. Those pitches for the two tests have to be the tamest SA pitches I've ever seen, as close to subcontinental as you're ever likely to get in SA.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 17:32 GMT)

From a South African stand point I am pleased with the series but a few areas of address need to be made, the most pertinent is balancing a Post-Kallis Protea's team.

Spinners - I have no doubt that the wrong spinners played in the wrong tests, I do believe Tahir would have been a wicket threat at Kingsmead while Robin Peterson is a more controlled bowler but neither are overly world beating, I will say that Peterson offers more balance as he can and has done on many occassion played good knocks down the order and is a good fielder.

JP Duminy - Averaged 11 for the series and is now a major point of concern for me, I don't have a sense of trust in his ability to construct a test innings nor his character for a fight, he is a little fare weather to me and should be replaced. Kallis retiring may salvage his career but he is a weak link and we have plenty talent coming through.

I would play Elgar at 3 and move Amla to 4, its the best for Elgar to try realize his potential.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:29 GMT)

The king of cricket .The most complete cricketer to play the game after sir Garfield Sobers thank you Sir Kallis .It has been an honor to see you play.For elders of cricket sobers was the perfect all rounder but i never saw him play so for our generation he will remain the prefect all rounder.In time others will come but no one will ever replace you.It is awesome for once to see a Legend retire on a high a century and series win.Perfect timing for the retirement. Jack Kallis take a bow.

Posted by davedave on (December 30, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Dhoni was not correct in selecting his team. I am really unsure why he always pick Rohit Sharma,he has been playing for India since 2005 look at his statistics. Of course, he had a great one day series against Australia and a couple of centuries against West Indies B team both played in India on a placid track. Worse thing is he took 8 years for this to achieve, I don't think any player in Indian history would have got that luxury like him. But some of the ex-players and others say he is naturally talented and lot of potential, to be honest they are not honest. Although I am not a great supporter of Jadeja, we should give him more chances for his batting obliviously, he is really useful for bowling. Another flaw on Dhoni's captaincy, when he wanted Jadeja for the second test, he should have removed Rohit and allowed Ashwin into the final eleven and finally Dhoni himself threw his wicket in both occasions.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

Two crucial umpiring decisions went against India, the wickets of Kohli and Zaheer. But India cannot complain as they have opted to play without DRS. If DRS was in place such obviously bad decisions had be rectified. Of course due to certain shortcomings in the technology and the way third umpire interprets evidence available to him even with DRS occasional bad decisions can be made. But all that is by far better than a batsman being wrongly given out due to an obvious error by the on field umpire which will be rectified almost 100 percent of time by the use of DRS technology. There cannot be any system which will be 100 percent correct all the time. Unfortunately BCCI does not understand this simple logic. DRS can only be improved by adapting it more and more so that flaws in it are exposed and rectified through further refinements.

Posted by SamRoy on (December 30, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

Vijay and Rahane played better than I expected, Rohit and Shikhar played worser than I expected, I expected a 50 from both Rohit and Shikhar.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:23 GMT)

The cricketing world were blessed with players like Tendulkar, Dravid, Kallis and Ponting. We will never be able to see players like them again. There are only few remaining classy players left playing Test Cricket and with their exit, I am afraid so does Test Cricket !

Posted by Nick_sp on (December 30, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

Dhoni is one of greatest captains India produced but if you look at his record he scored only 3 to 4 fifties in last 30 odd away test innings. To win away matches we need a very good wicket-keeper-batsmen, and at least one fast bowling al rounder. With the kind of bowling attack we have, Team India is going to struggle if they cannot fill in these slots.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:19 GMT)

when it comes to assessing the benchstrength of fast bowling there are few who merit selection in the national team.But as zaheer is almost done,my mind goes to a senior bloke called Vinay kumar whom i watched bowl with international quality in a Ranji match.Why the selectors have kept him out of test matches is quite puzzling.He is simply the best prospect of the present lot for longer version of the game.But for all the wrong reasons he has been tried in onedayers instead of test matches.So vinay alongwith shami and bhuvi could be a potent threesome.The selectors should add a quality left-armer like unadkat/nehra etc to this group of three.Jalaj saxena as an off spinner is doing very well this season.he may be given a look in.As for wk/batsman d jadhav could be a good choice.He has been to me the closest to intl. quality in domestic probables list.just see his strike rate in any domestic form.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 17:19 GMT)

Harmony you are ranting on again and again about a match winner so this is why India lost the series and never really had a chance even in Johannesburg, India took 13 less Wickets and could have been a lot worse if we hadn't declared at 497/8. Lack of penetration. India have the batsmen sorted;

Dharwan, Vijay, Pujara, Kholi, Rahane, Dhoni is plenty batting, I think they can play one or both of Jadaja or Ashwin or go with Ojha or Mishra along with 3 seamers, but Zaheer who did a lot of talking about Smith who went on to have a solid series is well passed his prime at 37 years old and is not the way forward, similarly Ishant Sharma is no longer potential but a liability. Shami looks useful but only time will tell, India need new seamers and maybe like the batting go with youngsters who will loose initially only to grow.

Posted by MCC_Tie on (December 30, 2013, 17:10 GMT)

India overrated IMO, SA are slow starters but ended the 1st Test with a better chance of winning the game. Second Test showed SAs class and Steyn back to his best. Loved Kohli's big mouth and arrogance, has made this 10 wicket all the sweeter!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:10 GMT)

First of all this shd have been a three-four test series for two of the topmost teams in the world..i dont think MSD deserves a place in Best XI ...Indian Test team for NZ shd be ...(1) Murali Vijay, (2) Shikhar Dhawan, (3) Cheteshwar Pujara, (4) Ajinkya Rahane, (5) Virat Kohli, (6) Naman Ojha (WK),(7) Saurabh Tiwary, (8) Rishi Dhawan, (9) Pankaj Singh, (10) Umesh Yadav, (11) Shami Ahmed, (12) Shrikant Wagh, (14) Amit Mishra, (15) Pragyan Ojha, (16) Harshad Khadiwale, (17) Kedhar Jadhav, (18) Dhawal Kulkarni/Ashok Dinda......we shd go by the aussie way n select best 20/18...then select best 11 keeping the conditions in mind.....then select best player to lead....from these bunch....very sad that india lost n i think non performing senior paceman ...were the culprits pushing too much pressure on young indian batting line up..

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 17:09 GMT)

An example of hypocrisy:

1. When India got to 180/1, track was flat.

2. When Kallis scored a 100 at the delicious SR of 36, track was tough.

3. When Styen got his wickets, Mike Haysman at presentation said he got his wickets in flat conditions.

4. Last one is a gem, when Rahane hit Philander for a 6 over covers in the final over of the match, the SA commentator on air said the boundary was short.

There is no end to this really. The smallest thing India will ever do will not be because of their own skill or application but it will be due to luck or easy conditions or easy bowling etc.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

yes it was a dream send off for Jaques kallis . In a sense the send off was very similar to the one which sachin got at mumbai. At mumbai India ground the limited windies bowling to dust and beat them comprehensively. Its just returned to india in the same token but by the proteas .

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 30, 2013, 17:05 GMT)

This whole tour has shown that its the domestic Ranji trophy which produces class players not IPL.Players like Mohit(even he is Sharma.lol.just joking)Rohit,Ashwin,Dhawan who got to fame due to IPL.Though Rohit/Dhawan have very good domestic record but Rohit has not done justice to his domestic record since 2007.Dhawan clearly has to play acc. to pitch & situation and he failed miserably in that.Last evening his rash shot against Peterson was the turning point of the match and he should be given some talk in dressing room by coach.Vijay played better than expected and thsts good sign but he also showed(in 1st inning 1st match and last inning last match) he has not forgotten why we Indian fans do not want him in the team.He has to show what he did in 2nd inning 2nd match and 1st inning 2nd match ie to take shine of new ball. All in all Kohli,Pujara,Rahane,Shammi,Jadeja should stay and Dhawan,Rohit should be given one full tour more.Dhoni,Ishant,Ashwin,Zak to go forever for better talent

Posted by Kavum on (December 30, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

Kallis - the quiet pro. Well done and well played. You will be remembered for those enduring skills and that famous gap-toothed grin. Many will wish to emulate you but few can. Thanks for the entertainment, me old son. Cheers.

Posted by happy-go-lucky on (December 30, 2013, 17:02 GMT)

Credit to this young batting line-up the way they battled it out against the best pace attack in the world in their own backyard. Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and even Vijay have proved themselves and exceeded all expectations. But if India have to win test matches outside subcontinent, they need a better pace attack. Ishant has shown ample evidence that he is not a test material. Zaheer is now past his shelf-life. Time to bring in Umesh, Bhuvi and some other fresh legs. Shikhar, Rohit and Jadeja need to work on their temperament. If only we had a better bowling attack, the results would have been very different.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 16:57 GMT)

My team for newzealand Gambhir Vijay Pujara Rahane Kohli Dhoni Irfan Pathan Jadeja/ashwin Umesh Zaheer Shami

Posted by EngineeredCricketer on (December 30, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

Bad luck for India as they could have saved the match and by day 5, things went wrong for them. However, Dhoni's comment about a few players never played cricket out of India actually made me think the similar but vice versa comment few days back by Misbah about his team young blood as none of those new chaps have played an International Match in Pakistan and even then they are performing well.

Posted by AvidCricFan on (December 30, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

Great win for SA. SA will miss the champion in Kalis in future. The young Indian team performed well barring the bowling. There are many positives to look into for the Indian batting. Their performance only proved that the past greats were only occupying the slots without performing in the past two years. India definitely needs to look beyond Zaheer and Ishant. If Ishant was bowling at 140 k plus like what he did at the beginning of his career, he may have been little more effective. But at 132-135k and with no proper variations, he is a pretty average bowler.

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 30, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

This Ind team needs a complete overhaul starting from Dhoni as Captain..If Dhoni is removed then players like Rohit Sharma, Ishant, Jadega, Raina will also be removed and good bowlers will get chances...scoring 20 or 30 runs in an innings as a captain and failing when your country needs you the most is not acceptable even if you achieved so many things....Dhoni clearly lacks the technique to play test matches...Ishant sharma for once and for all should be removed along with Zaheer who is clearly showing the signs of ageing...Dhoni should accept the defeat and immediately leave the captaincy in Test matches...

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 16:48 GMT)

I think we have seen Zaheer play his last for India. For a few years now, I have been critical of him cos he does not seem to have the right attitude anymore.

I would be happy to see if we have seen the last of Ishant. He should have been our strike bowler but he just doesn't seem to know what to do. Moving the ball is one thing but what about learning the basic skills of bowling accurate bouncers & yorkers? Is there anything in bowling that Ishant can do well? Oh yes, bowling that short & wide outside the off stump ball. He does that well.

I would hate to say but Dhoni is not much of a batsman in away matches. Either he should decide to improve his technique or should decide to be his natural stroke playing self or ???

India need Dhoni the captain but as a batsman he is a burden on most occasions.

India's lower order need to improve a lot. Rather comically, they need to improve in batting as well as in bowling.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 16:46 GMT)

Everyone here is criticizing zak, Ishant , Rohit but what about Dhoni....... he seems to be poorer batsman even when compared to Ashwin in overseas condition...

he usually makes a odd 60-70 runs after 5-6 innings failure and has failed to bat with lower order.. playing more than 80 tests and then also not confident in himself in overseas condition is a big question mark on his caliber... this is where adam gilchrist his far far ahead of dhoni as he use to destroy a team chance's in just 30-40 balls and always use to believe in his hitting capabilities.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 16:45 GMT)

@Harmony111 you are on about the 200 again, here is the long and short of it, Dale Steyn has made a career of winning matches he has made a career of being the scourge of India and now his reputation preceedes him. Rohit may have a 200 in a ODI and a couple hundreds against the WI and really good for him but he chose Dale Steyn of all people to cop a few words with and lost that badly. Don't chirp if you cannot cop it or back it up, Dale did.

How did Rohit do in the ODI's, how did he do in the Test Series? That 200 meant exactly jack in the end because in the end he flagged away under pressure, little bit harder than beating up the windies.

And FYI we did beat you in the last world cup, you watched your team go from 227/1 to 296 All Out courtesy of yours truly Dale Steyn.

Posted by JG2704 on (December 30, 2013, 16:44 GMT)

I just wonder if SA could have let Kallis open the batting and have him there at the crease when SA chased the target? Obviously he might have got out anyway but it would have been a fitting way to sign off. Having said that I don't think he comes across as a limelight hugger and to score a ton in your last test inns - well it doesn't get much better than that. Also you'd have to say it was a crucial ton as SA were probably behind the game when he came to the crease. Think he's timed his retirement perfectly and no one will be thinking he stayed too long - even if he'll be hard to replace

Posted by Speng on (December 30, 2013, 16:38 GMT)

India's performance was good considering having a team full of inexperienced batsmen. Rohit and Shikhar were poor but so was MSD so no disgrace there, Vijay was OK especially against such quality opening bowling. Pujara, Kohli, Rahane were as good as could be expected so the fans should be happy woth their middle order. The bowlers showed some signs in the first match but they will need to improve their fitness for the longer series in the summer against England but with three spinners/allrounders (Jadeja, Ashwin, Ohja) and 5 useful quicks to rotate they should have far more bowling depth than England.

With 5 matches in a little over 6 weeks I would chose 5 bowlers, 2 spinners and 3 pacers because Jadeja and/or Ashwin are good enough batters to handle #7 and as Swann's shown good spinners can get wickets in England. Unless England improves significantly (and I don't see how that's going to happen) India is going to give them a hard time.

Posted by jimbond on (December 30, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

I am a bit surprised by the relative ease with which Indian batsmen played the SA bowlers. Indian bowlers did struggle, but I guess the conditions were not as favourable to bowlers as earlier anticipated. Most of the Indian batsmen came to terms with the pitches and the bowling. In the last innings, I thought even Dhawan and Sharma were fairly comfortable during their brief stay at the wicket. Despite the boards doing everything to come up with a cramped schedule that did not allow for any practice matches, I thought the Indian team gave a good account of themselves against SA. After this series, I am a bit doubtful about SA's chances against SA, while I am a bit more positive about India's chances in the series ahead. Its good for Indian cricket that they have lost this series, else BCCI would think that it is okay to create cramped schedules as long as the money keeps coming.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

@Al_Bundy1 & Harmony_not_Discord:

I assume you two are two diff guys (after ignoring that both of you posted the same comment merely 30 mins apart !!).

Steyn belittled Indian batsmen after ODIs, you know that?

Steyn belittled Rohit in an extremely objectionable manner saying he had done nothing in his career.

But you gleefully ignore this??

Be Indian yet Buy South African???

One major problem India has faced historically is that there have been always been a few among us who suffer from a misplaced sense of self-righteousness, a false sense of being neutral or being unbiased.

Many Indians have this great desire of looking unbiased. To cultivate this image, they will go to great lengths of hypocrisy & of showing a bent back. They will ignore everything said by the other side & will attack their own to boost this image. This is limited not just to cricket but to just about every aspect of life. I bet most Indian fans here will agree with me here.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

The real test of temperament and ability comes not when you know you have a second chance, it comes when the chips are down and you team needs you in a crisis, we have shown that we have the temperament to play backs to the wall, we did that against Australia with Mitchell Johnson and Starc and company, we did it against India at the Wanderers, it was India's turn today to prove character and even the rock Pujara flaked under pressure.

Australians flaked under the onslaught of Amla (196) and ABDV (160) second innings assault and the fired up Dale Steyn, ironic that it was once again a Dale Steyn that makes the difference.

Posted by SamRoy on (December 30, 2013, 16:32 GMT)

I have said enough dhoni and his team selections in this forum, on 1st day of 1st test I said, "with one Shami and a half Khan, no probability of getting 20 protea wkts, has Ishant not failed enough?", on 1st day of 2nd test I said, " I am worried with our ability to take 20 protea wkts. Ishant and zak will be tired and there was no threat whatsoever from ashwin, zak and Ishant on last day of 1st test." Ishant and zak bowled terribly in 2nd test also and this is what dhoni said, "I'm very happy with the performance, especially of the bowlers, without the luxury of an allrounder, they bowled to the plan that they had." Ishant and zak bowled to the plan that they had, right? As a fan is it too much to expect an honest opinion from the test captain of India?

Posted by ProdigyA on (December 30, 2013, 16:32 GMT)

I think Dhoni's time is up in Tests. He needs to be replaced by a proper wicketkeeper batsman. He is hurting India's chances abroad. He can't be in the team just for his captancy.

Posted by aussieperthindian on (December 30, 2013, 16:26 GMT)

Well done to SA. Kallis you are a legend. Steyn-what fire! India-not a bad effort at all but the determination showed in the first test was sadly lacking in the second. Poor shows by Dhawan and esp by the two Sharmas. Certainly I. Sharma needs to go. India's weakness is bowling and it is blatantly obvious - yet no concrete action gets taken. In with the young and out with the old-sorry Zak but your time is up. Until a talented batting line up has a good bowling attack to back them up India will remain second class. Please please please do something about Indian bowling!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well done Kholi, Pujara, Rahane, Vijay and Shami.

Posted by JustMyView on (December 30, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

As People said Styen scored more runs than Rohit,. What about Amla the good batsman from SA,.. He too scored lesser than Styen in this series, is he not a great test batsman ? This is not something should decide from one series. Rohit just played his 4th test. And also I don't understand everyone says he just scored a century against weak WI. who said WI is weaker they have a very good bowling attack. When Ind 83-5 , why all others batsman was not able to score and Rohit came and made a century. So let us not discourage our player. He will come up good I have that hope.

Posted by AB_DeVilliers on (December 30, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

Finally we beat this overrated team. I admit that India surprised me in this series, especially with their batting. They showed so much application and they need to be credited for it. I do feel that Nohit Sharma lacks temperament more than anything, and should be moved down to 6. Dhawan showed enough promise so no real changes to the batting. The problem is of course with their bowling - they clearly don't have bowlers to take 20 SA wickets and I for one feel they should look past Zak, he has reached his sell by date. India have still never won a series in SA which proves they can never be a super power in the test arena. Yes they will win ODI stuff, but when it comes to the real deal, they fall short because they are simply not good enough. Oh, and just to remind certain commenters, SA have previously won a series in India, we ticked that box long ago.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

Against India, even medium pace bowler also good wicket taker; if match going on in Australia, England, South Africa. Against India, England bowlers (Stuart Broad, Bresnan and Anderson) came in peak form (actually that is not peak form, Indian weakness). Now Dale Stayn came in peak form. When India will think about fast and bouncy pitch; till that time Indian result in abroad continue same like this. And little bit hope given by Pujara, Kohli and Rahane. Why they cannot think about Baba Aparajith in place Dhawan or Rohit Sharma. If one more good spinner in team with Jadeja in this match, the result is different (even first match too), and also this Baba can bat well.

Posted by Karunk on (December 30, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

India lost the test when last 5 wickets fell for 10+ runs in the first innings. Dhoni is lucky & continues to play test cricket (away series) because of being captain.His batting in test cricket looks pathetic when he faces quality bowlers on fast, seaming wickets. Absolutely no technique. Happy about Rahane. After a long wait, he got a chance and showed his class. India should start including both Pujara and Rahane in their ODI XI since, world cup is in Australia. Dhawan, Rohit, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Jadeja, Raina are all flat track bullies. If India has to cross 250+ in ODI series abroad, runs need to come from Pujara, Kohli & Rahane. Regarding bowling, India does not have a quality bowler who can run thru the side like Steyn. Period. No point in discussing. In ODI or T20, an innings comes to an end after 50 overs or 20 overs and our batting takes over from there. But in test cricket, India has to take 20 wickets and we can't expect that with this bowling attack.

Posted by screamingeagle on (December 30, 2013, 16:22 GMT)

Well played India. I for one am proud of this team. They have shown a lot of guts and that is only going to help in the future. Even though they may not say it, I do think the SA team did struggle. It was down to one big spell to seal the deal. Question marks? I would think Ishant. One off performances will not count for someone who has been around for so long. He should be told what the team expects of him, given a few tests and if not performing, ship him out. India is playing overseas, so he cannot blame the wicket. Why not give some newcomers a chance? Let them fail and learn. Lastly, unless Steyn is fired up, SA will have a tough time against Aussies.

Posted by madnayar on (December 30, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

Excellent farewell gift from SA team to their unsung hero King Kallis -Ten wckt vicory and the series. But they are going to be tested severely by Johnson , Harris and co. shortly. Good luck to them. As for India , dont include "great at home spinners" like Ashwin on overseas tours. Kohli , Pujara and Rahane have done well on batting front. Shikhar dhawan is a dud against genuine fast bowling on bouncy pitches as he has just shown us. India should retain such players players for home matches only.

Posted by Jimmyvida on (December 30, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

Ah! India need 4 fast bowlers you say. With Dhoni and Jadeja, you suddenly have 5 batsmen. You are rooting to lose heavily in NZ. With exception of Yadhav, India does not have fast bowlers. After the first innings in Wanderers Inshant forgot he must put the ball further up. SA is done and gone. India must play 2 spinners in NZ. I hate to hear about India's pace attack. That is a joke, just like their fielding is a joke. All India's fans talk about is the few dropped catches. Have any idea how many catches Australia and England combined dropped in the 4th test. If you play cricket, you will drop catches, period. It is like beating a dead horse, but India's fielding is the worst on this planet, and have been so for a long time. And finally, once again, SA board should ask Kallis as earnestly as it can to play one last series for them, the Aussies.

Posted by misterstevens on (December 30, 2013, 16:17 GMT)

@December 30, 2013, 15:58 GMT

To set the record straight, South Africa have beaten India in India in 1999/2000 - SA won 2-0

Posted by Sir_Ivor on (December 30, 2013, 16:17 GMT)

It was disappointing that India lost but the great performance in the first Test notwithstanding, South Africa was the better team apart from being the ICC No 1 test side. India was not disgraced 0-3 or 0-2 as the South Africans have been dishing out to others. But some introspection of personnel is certainly called for. from what we have seen, only Pujara,Kohli Rahane and Shami can be called the core of India's Test team.Shikar Dhawan,Murali Vijay,Rohit Sharma,are better suited for the limited over games in view of their abilities and aptitudes. It is no use pointing to anyone's talent if it remains hidden for life. The selectors must bring in some fresh blood and try them out. K L Rahul, seems technically sound and good in difficult condtions and should be tried out for New Zealand.Sardul Thakur, Varun Aaron Rishi Dhawan and Sharath could tried out for pace options and Amit Mishra must be brought in.Ideally Dhoni should be rested and Kohli made the captain for New Zealand.

Posted by MasterClass on (December 30, 2013, 16:16 GMT)

@Amol_Ind_SA - Well said! Within the team India took to SA is the nucleus of a wonderful side (at least from a batting perspective) but we need to have the patience, wisdom and foresight to make it grow and then build on it.

Posted by analyseabhishek on (December 30, 2013, 16:12 GMT)

To think that no one in the top 6 has played more than 20 tests for India- this result is a huge plus- agreed they were helped by a generous amount of luck in the first test but they deserved that too. Even in this test, there was no disgrace in defeat to a team in which Philander bats at no 9! End of an era with Kallis- Saffers will feel they underachieved while he was around. To put things in an Indian perspective, he scored as many runs and took catches as Rahul Dravid while taking about as many wickets as Zaheer Khan! The most valuable player of all time!

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 30, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

And of course we have to look beyond Ishant and Zaheer now.The likes of Varun,Ishwar,Yadav should be playing with Bhuvi,Shammi.Also playing Bhajji overseas will be good idea as he has experience.Look at his record in previous tour to SA!!He got 7 wk in a inning!Overseas Ashwin is bad coz he is not genuine spinner,just IPL find who can slow run rate and then expects to get wickets.In tests we need different strategy,a spinner who has more wicket taking deliveries rather than slowing run rate especially overseas and with no so great seam bowling attack.We should also pick horses for courses,like picking Parveen for NZ/ENG will be good idea along with Bhuvi and Shammi.There Yadav/Varun's pace have less value than these players.In AUS/SA/domestic matches pacers have more value than those who seams/swing at slow pace.But knowing how Indian team is selected and board is run,I doubt anyhting will happen.One day Patil a very honest man might quit his job in frustration! continue......

Posted by nitish24 on (December 30, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

I think the main concern is the bowling. It seems very unlikely that this bunch will be able to take 20 wickets consistently abroad. For NZL , Bhuvneshwer Kumar should be given a chance , and so should Ojha. Rohit Sharma was a big disappointment too . I feel Gambhir could be tried in the middle order . And what about Irfan Pathan ??...He is the best batsman out of Ashwin , Jadeja and a good new ball bowler too.

Posted by Dougie25 on (December 30, 2013, 16:05 GMT)

Unlucky India, well played SA. Goodbye King Kallis, you will sorely be missed.

Posted by Fogu on (December 30, 2013, 16:04 GMT)

From a neutral fans perspective, IN played beyond what I was expecting. Granted they are leaving SA without any wins but some of their young batsmen played well. Kohli, Rahane, Pujara, even Vijay. Bowlers were what we thought they were. Bowlers are hurting India's chances of winning tests abroad. SA is still top class. Steyn is the most intimidating bowler in the world today. I am surprised that SA did not prepare faster and bouncier pitches but they still won. IN fans bashing umpires need to stop. Either accept DRS or don't complain. 99% accuracy is better than 90% as someone said earlier. Congrats to SA. Much Respect to Kallis. Greatest all rounder of our time (maybe all time).

Posted by binojpeter on (December 30, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

Surprisingly in this series, batsmen did a better job than bowlers. As long as selectors do not start thinking beyond Zaheer and Ishant, hope of winning a series abroad will never materialize. Zaheer has gone past his prime and is not same bowler he was before. Ishant has never proven to be dependable match-winner in Tests. As I have said before, a guy with more than 38 average after playing 53 tests do not deserve to be in Test eleven. If Zaheer and Ishant was good, we should have easily won the first Test by their experience. It is high time to give chance to youngsters rather than persisting with so called "experienced players"

Posted by SunilSrr on (December 30, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

So much of discussions on overseas failures of India. When India wins, all is well. When India starts losing, captain becomes the punch bag for hit. Most of the cricket 2014 has to be played abroad, so these discussions are going to last longer. Definitely MSD & Jadeja played out cheaply today, more than what is expected of their standards. With the available team in hand, still there can't be a better leader for India, be it within or abroad. Any captain who has a better track record, leading the team in past can be checked in stats. All have shrugged off their responsibility considering own batting records. The basic problem is with pace bowling, where we average 10 kmph less than the forign pacers, which matters the most on overseas ground & conditions. Lack of genuine quality pacers is the real problem to be addressed for long lasting betterment of indian cricket.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

@sanman12:

Please at least read my comments properly before you start to type your response. There's a difference between innings performance from match performance, you know this?

It was not about Steyn being or not being a great or a legend. It was about saying to someone that he has done nothing in his career when his test career is all of 3.5 tests at that point of time. Incidentally, that man got 2 100s in his first 2 tests, not bad eh.

If Steyn thinks 4 tests is large enough but 2 100s in 2 tests is not much then I got to question him. And when he uses the word career then he ought to know about that 200 Rohit got in ODIs. So simple.

Getting runs on flat tracks is not the point. Has any SA batsman got 200 in their own grounds? Did any SA batsman get them even in Indian flat tracks?

If 200 in India is no big deal why did SA's 11 batsmen fail to chase <180 vs Eng & 224 vs NZ in WC2011 !!!

Any answers???

Posted by MasterClass on (December 30, 2013, 15:47 GMT)

This was the toughest test this young Indian team will likely face in recent times, not because of conditions, but because they were facing a determined opposition with the stakes raised by the retirement of Kallis. SA geed themselves up with Kallis' retirement and it was always going to be a tough tough ask once that happened. As I have commented before it is Steyn's steely determination (not just his speed and skill) that allows him to break through the opposition when that seems impossible. India may face more difficult conditions in future tours to NZ, AUS & ENG but they will not face a more fiercely focused opposition. They have walked thru fire and it will do all of them a world of good, although it may seem bitter and disappointing now. And while there is still plenty of work ahead, I do see silver linings for this team.

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 30, 2013, 15:47 GMT)

The selectors have been players with good technique and temperment such as Wasim Jaffer, Tiwary and DK and adamant in not picking good seam bowlers and we are paying the price for it...if the seamers cant even pick the tailenders wicket that too in SA pitches then we cant even win in Bangladesh for sure..when will the selectors going to learn this??? Dhoni should be sacked from the test team immedietly and Kholi should be given chance...SOS calling for good seam bowlers......

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:45 GMT)

I and many experts rate kallis "one of the greatest" cricketer of all time, i know that sachin, lara, ponting are more flamboynt than kallis, but as a cricketer he is more useful to his team. he has 292 wickets also. and a record 21 man of the match awards in test matches. a true legend, we will miss you kaliis, my all time top 5 ranking is: 1) Bradman the greatest, 2) Kallis and Sobers, 3) Tendulkar and Murli, 4) Lara and Warne, 5)Viv Richard, Imran, Wasim, Ponting ,MacGrath

Posted by Batmanindallas on (December 30, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

I am so glad Rahane finally performed. Rohit to me like the other Sharma has been riding on a few and far off performance for too long. Rohit all his runs have been in India and Rahane to me is a superior bat hopefully Dhoni and company don't mess with that. As for Ishant again as everyone was praising him to the sky it was my fear that he will be back to his usual self again. How long is he going to be allowed to be in the team on potential???

Posted by sarangsrk on (December 30, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

SA is no.1 team in the world and they were expected to win which they did in the end but not as easy as they would have liked. Lot of statements they made were proven wrong in this 2 test series - 1. Morkel saying Ind will miss Dravid,Sachin kind of innings builder. Pujara,kohli and Vijay showed them ample evidence of their long innings playing ability. 2. Steyn saying Ind batsmen are "scarred" and scared - Well, they played pull shots with as much ease as you would see. Dhoni chose to bat first on a green track. Enough to tell me no one was scared. To all Indian fans, just be proud of your team and pardon others who can't appreciate good effort by others. No need to prove any point to people with biased opinions. I want to see how SA plays against in-form Aussie team with superb bowling firepower.With no Kallis, SA will have tough time facing upto Mitch Johnson and co.

Posted by sidh78 on (December 30, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

this series was only the test of the young indian batsman only becoz we all know that how indian bowling is hopeless.young batsman played very well on fast green bouncy pitches of SA.(SL& pak teams batsman can never perform like that) they gave very tough time to sa bowler) they scored above 750 runs on fast wanderes pitch.that is a huge achivement for this yong batsmans.becoz before the start of the every one predicted that this yong inexperiance batsman can not score more than total 300 runs in both innings.they broken the myth that they are FTB.they show the world that they bat anywhere & on any track.if ind have some good bowler we had won in Sa.but last played boys(specially batsman) i m diapointed but not much after our bating performance.

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (December 30, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

SA was always the better test team and result shows it , but it seems as if everyone is waiting for an opportunity to thrash talk about India's batting , Indian batsman had almost zero experience on SA pitches and they still managed some pretty good performances , the truth is its the bowling as always that is letting the team down , to put it simply our fast bowlers are simply not good enough !

Posted by blogossip on (December 30, 2013, 15:42 GMT)

India only one advice - accept DRS! apart from that, India played well and just cudnt stop from getting stung by Steyn.

@Mohammad Talha - india is no2 coz they whitewashed Aussies 4-0 while SA drew 1-1 last time they played australia in SA.

Kallis will be missed, but whata dream test for him!

Posted by sumit1982 on (December 30, 2013, 15:41 GMT)

IF MSD on extra fast blower along with ashwin with Jadeja it could have been different story.I thing MSD need to play 4 fast blower when his team playing in Aus,South Africa ,Eng and kiwis pitches where blow is seaming around and have some true bounce to carry to the keeper.

Still it have some Positive sign for the Indian team in test series after dismissal performance in ODI series. Next destination Kiwis(lord of the Rings) hope for the best.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

N indians pls stop being in selection panel wat do u knw this is game where players lose n win. respect for Kallis anyways.

Posted by sadSajith on (December 30, 2013, 15:36 GMT)

@Badal Das, About flat tracks,which kind of tracks india does have?fast bouncy tracks? funny..I think flat track mean batting friendly tracks.Which country has the more batting friendly tracks?Sri Lanka or India? You knw the answr.About away records, For last 10 series, India lost against SA,Australia,England,Sri Lanka and won against WI,NZ,and lost to England in India..Sri Lanka hasn't done well either.But at least they manage to win one match against SA in SA.Ok should I now call your team flat track bullies?no man.Every country do better in their own backyards because where else they would perform better? If players in subcontinent need to win they should adjust the environment well..If India had more practice matches in SA they may have played better.You have to understand whenever you call any Asian batsmen or team flat track bullies, you are pointing the finger towards your self(even more fingers maybe)..Anyway hate to comment these useless things in a Kallis article..Sorry guys

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:36 GMT)

i feel pity on guys who just criticize india,, remember india fought hard in the series,, for all of ur kind information,, australia was thrashed 4-0 not so long back by India,, and i am watching cricket for more than a decade,, when did southafrica ever won a world tournament,, and the great southafrica has never won a test series in india after 2000. so all the aussie and southafrica,, the fact is that u are not good playing in sub-continent conditions. so better go and learn it before getting in thrashed in next sub-continent tour.. and oh.. aussies fans,, we know your standard..

Posted by truecric_fan on (December 30, 2013, 15:34 GMT)

Its a shame this was only a 2 test match series. Exciting cricket and some terrific performances from both sides. Steyn raised his game and showed us his furious best, Kallis century was memorable, Pujara, Rahane and Virat played well. Shami was very impressive. Rohit and Dhoni disappointed us all, Jadeja with his 6 wicket haul has some bragging rights but has been very shaky with the bat. India seriously needs to find better spinners ( are Ashwin and Jadeja the best spinners we can produce). This tour has been great experience before tour of England and Australia. As for SA, they will have a big challenge against Australia next 2 months.

Posted by TSJ07 on (December 30, 2013, 15:34 GMT)

Well.I'm also Indian but not very happy unlike other fellow Indians.We lost this match due to poor captaincy by Dhoni who did not take new ball for so long.What 3 pacemen must have been thinking that time that they are no good.You have to have faith in your players which Dhoni dint show, may be coz he does't have faith in himself overseas.We forced out Dravid,Sachin,VVS,Bhajji due to one or two bad overseas performances but what about Dhoni,he has not performed in a single series overseas.Infact I cant even recall when he went past 50 in away match.Just drop him and pick DK and Kohli as test captain.Dhoni is good only in ODI,infact his T20 record is very bad,look at his strike rate,its close to 100.Yuvi's 150! Last yr Amarnath said something against him and guys like Shastri went public against his fellow team mate,Amarnath as per the wishes of Dhoni's boss Srinivasan but its time selectors led by Patil take this decision of removing Dhoni from team for India's sake.o/w its lost cause!

Posted by ram_1958 on (December 30, 2013, 15:32 GMT)

As per the decision of Coach and Captain Jadeja is included in playing eleven as all rounder and not included two genuine spinners Ashwin and Ojah. Do we consider ICC ranking is wrong by giving No.1 spot as all rounder to Ashwin. By all mean Ashwin is better test batsman than Jadeja, even better than some of the top order batsmen. If Ashwin is considered as best bowler only in home then in this SA tour what is the performance of Shikar Dhawan, Rohit Sharma and Dhoni? So far Ashwin has played only 5 tests. 4 in Australia and 1 in SA. In the 1st test though he could not take wickets, he was very accurate and economical. Give more chances to Ashwin and he will be a match winner

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:31 GMT)

it's definitely a better result than we expected after the one days. let's give the young guys some credit. By the way how many times have we fared better in south Africa, even with an experienced team?

Posted by jiten27 on (December 30, 2013, 15:31 GMT)

zaheer and ishant sharma ahwin all experienced bowler but they r not good. need to replaced . there r lots good bowler with good at bat knocking the door for test and odi please give them chance,

Posted by ahweak on (December 30, 2013, 15:28 GMT)

Thank you Jacques Kallis. You are a legend. Cricket needs more people like him (in terms of both cricket ability and personality). India did better on this tour than the England and Australia tours where they didn't even compete. Here at least they stood up (though not all the way). Good lessons for youngsters and a great opportunity for India to find out who has the guts to stick it out in test cricket. Rahane certainly deserves a longer run in the team. In all the chances he has gotten so far, Rohit has not shown the type of application that Rahane showed.

Posted by Karthijagadeesh on (December 30, 2013, 15:28 GMT)

This series has revealed what Indian team is really capable of and fit for. Neither the 1day nor the test, India is not worth to be called as no.1 team in ODI aswell. To my view, in batting Dhoni, Rohit & Dhawan should be kept only for ODIs. In bowling, Zaheer should be dropped. India has to seriously look for a genuine fast bowler which I feel they are missing for past 20 odd years. Or let the ICC keep their boy at home and play gully cricket and say we are number 1 side.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:26 GMT)

@rvnhere your comments amaze me buddy you say jadeja's selection instead of Ashwin in this test was a bad decision oh come dude do you really think Ashwin could have taken the 6 wickets jadeja took hell no and Ashwin is the weakest link in team India when it comes to fielding Jadeja bowled 25 overs on the thraught do you think Ashwin can do that again no way sir.With regard to Ashwin playing as a batsman in the team I'd rather say drop him and play a batsman instead of half baked Ashwin.Ashwin is only fit for indian conditions make no mistake about it

Posted by buntyj on (December 30, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

part 3 who then as bowlers- shami's success at home led some observors to say that shows you dont need real pace; on the contrary the best attack away with just 3 seamers would be a genuine fast bowler with a heavy ball, a bowler with good bounce, and a good swing bowler; its unfortunate umesh yadav wasnt played in rsa tests his strike rate is good tho economy poor and he will always suffer if odi performance is the benchmark for test selection; waqar younis was the best of the genre of good strike not best economy rates but even if yadav is merely danny morrison like he would be valuable in away tests; unless of course the place is being kept warm for varun aaron; surprising that pandey with good bounce and a successful 'a' team tour recently of rsa wasn't given an opportunity to tour rsa now; options to bhubaneswar away- mohit may do well in nz and early summer eng, but not sure elsewhere or with kookaburra; rishi dhawan could be given a chance. spin- ashwin- kookaburra problem.

Posted by astrodee on (December 30, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

Well done SA. I really enjoyed this test, and never thought the result in doubt once Kallis was set. It will be an interesting series against the Aussies with Kallis retired.It will be wonderful watching Johnson, Harris, Siddle, Steyn, Philander and Morkel in the same test match. Can't wait.

Posted by U.A.1985 on (December 30, 2013, 15:22 GMT)

@Harmony111 - Kallis was going great guns in that last test and if he had stayed little longer he would have increased SA run rate which would have allowed extra runs to SA and thus a win...so the howler in the first test was a also a howler. Bad decisions affect both sides.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 15:21 GMT)

Rahane should bat at No.5. SA could not get him out in this test.

For me Rahane is the find of this tour... Pujara and Kohli lived up their expectations. Vijay did his bit, and should make it a habit to bat longer periods.

It was IND batting vs SA bowling...

Top three run getters are from IND, so they lived up to their fame.

As for top three wickets takers, SA had two of them in Steyn and Philander..

The key difference has been, the top three run getters from IND.. found zero support from the rest of the batting dept... where as Steyn and Philanderer.....found excellent support from Morkel, Kallis, Robin Peterson and even Duminy.

For me Steyn has been the key difference between the two teams, someone who can cleanup the tail fairly quickly and unsettle the top order......

Take Steyn out of the equation, rest is quite obvious.

IND needs to find their own Steyn/MJ for these away tours....

Posted by Vish78 on (December 30, 2013, 15:21 GMT)

Seriously guys why do we forget that India was playing the No.1 team in the world on their backyard with the most dangerous bowling line up. On top of that, we had a very new batting line up. Everyone were expecting a white wash but we surprised everyone. We have the potential and need experience in overseas conditions. It is important we retain the same side and give them ample opportunity. Happy with the way Rahane, Kohli, Pujara and Vijay batted. Rohit was disappointing He was looking comfortable today till he was trapped by a sharp incutter. I know he got his hundreds against West Indies. But don't forget he bailed out India from difficult situations when the top order failed. Also, Kohli had a slow start in his test career but we stuck with him and he performed. Let's be patient and don't overreact.

Posted by MAYURESHmagic on (December 30, 2013, 15:17 GMT)

No blaming anyone, the only person who is responsible for this is Dhoni. As a batsman he never contributed for india in overseas and he mostly gets caught out to slips or close fielders and he is very defensive and sometimes he looks cool but i think his brain get freeze. He forgot he could take new ball in one inning. Rohit played very well at 6 against WI so he should be there and Shikhar must be at 5th and Rahane must open. Why the hell Ishant is there, his bowling average is like average of good batsman. In case swing is not working then hold seam tight and get more speed like Steyn does with old ball. Indian bowling line up is weak is a lame excuse which only motivates laziness for bowlers.

Posted by ramsrr on (December 30, 2013, 15:17 GMT)

I think MSD influencing with selection process and making too many experiments with younger talents but we need to balance the team with experience coupled with younger talents..We have proved ourselves in only Indian pitches as Dawan and Rohit could not prove on bouncy wickets and on international venues..On batting front Suresh Raina Jadeja have failed and barring Kohli and Pujara no one have shown worth in SA...we have got really exposed in this series....Shewag , Gambhir are still need to be back in the team as we need not test them in Domestic cricket for them to to be back since they have already proved earlier..We should not forget Gambhir's World cup final knock and ICC cricketer award few years earlier.. Shewag need to be encouraged and could return to form..In the past experienced Cricketers like Sachin, Dravid Laxman had long stint in Test cricket and so we cannot keep dropping experienced cricketers for few bad performances and would seriously affect our test rankings..

Posted by phat55 on (December 30, 2013, 15:17 GMT)

well done to my beloved Proteas on the series victory.it definitely was not an easy series.India played very well for long periods in the series but lacked the firepower bowling wise.their batsmen,especially Pujara Kohli Rahane & Vijay to an extent,showed they have the technique n temperament to make big runs in the future & more importantly outside of India.Steyn showed why he is the most feared bowler by taking 9wkts on a placid pitch.damn I still wish Kallis would not retire but alas.....goodbye to a legend & to me the greatest cricketer to have played the game

Posted by Silverbails on (December 30, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

What an absolutely pathetic batting display from India, and that on a very subcontinental pitch!! How much lower can they get? Who knows! It's the usual inept 3rd innings of the final match in any SA series that we've all come to expect, especially from this pathetic side. Can India not take 20 SA wickets in SA. As I've said before, the search goes on for a series victory in SA, one of the 2 holy grails of Indian Test cricket!! Truly sad phase of Indian Test cricket. Perhaps time to relieve MSD of the captaincy. In addition, time to replace Rohit and Ishant, one and for all!! When will India ever produce any decent fast bowlers for overseas tours? Who knows? A sad, sad day for Indian Test cricket...

Posted by K_Srini on (December 30, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

Needless to say that if a team has to win a test match, it requires the bowlers to take 20 wickets. Being a hardcore Indian fan, I need to admit the fact that this set of Indian bowlers are just not capable of doing it, lacking killer instinct so badly. If you cannot get a team out after having almost 460 runs to defend (1st test), no need to tell more. Also, tail-enders like Steyn & Philander making merry with the bowling poses a big question on the standard of Indian bowling. More than the batting, its the bowlers who need to be held responsible for this dismal performance.

Posted by MianMoosa on (December 30, 2013, 15:12 GMT)

Same old story for India when it comes to play abroad, they don,t have bowlers to take 20 wickets & win a match, their batting was always their strength & seems like it will be, pujaara, kohli & rahane have shown applications & method to play in such conditions, MS Dhoni test record in overseas matches is terrible, he don,t know how to play the game in abroad conditions, indian bowling, well i can,t understand why they are not producing quality fast bowlers, muhammad shami looks best from a lot, but even he was not able to take wkts consistently, ishant sharma played 53 test matches with average of 38 & he is still in the team, that shows how poor their bowling is

Posted by buntyj on (December 30, 2013, 15:11 GMT)

part 2 msd's failure again away against decent attacks means away india's tail starts at 7 and we can't avoid playing with 6 batsman rather than 5; this means 4 bowlers away though without truly top notch bowlers 5 may've been preferable; with 1 spinner it means 3 seamers; its surprising bhubaneshwar with his good test record especially with new ball (look at rsa opening stands this series) wasnt played; briefly while assisted by weather at wanderers zak, shami, ishant looked ok and will likely exploit helpful conditions elsewhere but without such assistance they clearly lack penetration; their averages and strike rates overall do not merit persistence away but the captain n selectors may well continue with them and if nz prepares greentops they may get wickets; ishant appears to be persisted with for non cricketing reasons, zak is at the end of his career and shami will need time to learn to be effective with the kookaburra ball and grounds less encouraging than in asia for reverse.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (December 30, 2013, 15:10 GMT)

Drop Dhoni, make Pujara the captain and bring DK in Dhoni's place. Drop Rohit and bring in an extra bowler. Nothing more. India is doing fine apart from those two. Goodbye to Zaheer and Ishant as well. Bring in Umesh and Shukla. Ings comes in in India at the expense of a pacer. That's all.

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (December 30, 2013, 15:10 GMT)

@Muhammad Asghar - (cricinfo please publish)

When was the last time Pakistan won a Test in SA? Ans: 2006/07,, When was the last time India won a Test in SA? Ans: 2010/11

When was the last time Pakistan won a Test in AUS? Ans: 1995,, When was the last time India won a Test in AUS? Ans: 2008

When was the last time Pak won a Test series in ENG? Ans: 1996,, When was the last time India won a Test series in ENG? Ans: 2007

Posted by Amol_Ind_SA on (December 30, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

When Smith became the captain in 2003, he was NOT surrounded by greats. SA was down in the dumps till 2004 with Donald, Rhodes and Kirsten priorly retired. And with Pollock the only bowler of quality, Ntini being one-dimensional until 2005, only when he burst into wickets, SA wasn't that good till 2006. So Smith wasn't given a ready-made champion team on a platter. He built it on his own and I hope IND too learns from this example and starts rebuilding with lots of Patience+Talent in their bags being the first priority.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 30, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

@Deven Sharma. Its funny to read your comment. What do you expect Dhoni to say on TV? That Mr. Ishant Sharma is the worst bowler India has who can grow long hair but can not get a wicket even if he bowl all day. Or Mr. Zaheer Khan is very old and can bowl good only in the first innings, after that he has aching joints? Or his bowlers are so pathetic they were almost unable to defend 458 runs on last day of a match where no team has ever made 400 in 4th innings? Dhoni knows that has no Steyn playing for him so he is trying to keep up what ever morale our bowlers have. How criticizing bolwers on TV will help team India if you dont have many options? Get real. Dhoni was criticized by many Indian fans for not declaring earlier in first test. look what happened. but for last 8 runs match was lost. Just imagine if he had declared for only 400 to win. Those fans would have been criticizing him for declaring too early.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Congrats South Africa and Well played India. From here onwards Pujara and Rahane should be ODI regulars and Kohli should be sandwitched between them. So my ODI Team for NZ series 1. Rohit Sharma 2. Shikhar Dhawan 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Virat Kohli 5. Ajinkya Rahane 6. MS Dhoni 7. Ravi Jadeja 8. Ravi Ashwin 9. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar 10. Mohammad Shami 11. Umesh Yadav 12. Varun Aroon, 13. Ambayati Rayudu 14. Dhawal Kulkarni 15. Manoj Tiwari (If Fit)/Saurabh Tiwary 16. Robin Uttappa (If Fit)/Manish Pandey.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:06 GMT)

India has once again shown that they only possess a reasonable batting line up at best, but have no bowling unit. I put emphasis on a reasonable batting line up because they only fire at home. India can never be a proper cricket unit as long as it lacks a good bowling attack. The South Africans have exposed Indian shortcomings very painfully. Then, the Indian batting unit was scoring 300+ runs on its home soil, but isn't able to score such huge totals on a bouncy green track. Indian fans that are satisfied with such a mediocre performance

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

India was never a problem for South Africa & will never be. South Africa is much better than India. Best of luck South Africa. Keep going like this.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

This has not been a demoralizing loss for India. They can reflect on this tour with much positives to take back home unlike , especially batting. It outperformed many people's expectations. Bowling was a huge let down. Although Shikhar Dhawan got off to starts, Rohit Sharma definitely needs to work on his batting.

Posted by vrkp on (December 30, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

We need to make some changes to the playing XI and batting order in NZ tests.

Ashwin could be tried as a opener. In my opinion, he is similar to Ravi Shastri, player with limited bowling skills and reasonably better batting skills. So Ashwin could open the batting with Vijay, then Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and one of either S Dhawan/Karthik/Rohit to be tried at no.6. Followed by MSD, Jadeja/Rishi/Irfan, Bhuvi, Shami and Yadav.

If the pitch doesn't take spin at all then drop Jadeja and play either Irfan or Rishi or pacer allrounder. For Rohit, NZ series should be the last chance to play for India. if he doesn't score at least 250-270 runs with 3 fifties then he should be dropped form the team for ever. And please don't take Ishant anymore.

This gives the team 5 full time bowlers and 6 batters and couple of all rounders.

Posted by Haz95 on (December 30, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

Why is every hyping the Indians up? Look I'm a neutral observer but everyones predictions were that India were gonna lose, there will only be a fight by their batsmen but they were still gonna lose. Now 1st test, this exactly happened had it not been for the fluke the Indian bowlers got in SAs first innings which caused the draw since in the second innings with a target of 458 they couldn't manage the wickets and ICC Test XI Ashwin was nowhere to be seen after. This game, no fluke in the bowling meant that India gave 500 runs to the opposition, a fight in the batting by an unusual Rahane meant that it wasn't an innings defeat. Stop overrating your cricketers so much, its what makes guys like 'harmony' look pathetic. It was obvious that Indias old farts were stopping their good batting which caused whitewashes. Nevertheless, Rahane, Pujara and Kohli are gonna be the very same fighters in a New Zealand team which is drastically improving

Posted by rvnhere on (December 30, 2013, 14:59 GMT)

I my humble opinion all bashing on Ashwin is not fair and leaving Ashwin (for Jadeja) was a bad decision for this match where the wicket is helpful for spin. I agree Ashwin is not very effective in foreign conditions with the ball, so are our other bowlers. In a slightly seamer friendly tracks, our Zaheers, Ishants & Samis could not do as well as SA seamers. But definitely he is better with the bat than most of our batsman & would have given more needed strength to the Indian tail. He was consistently scoring 30s in the tour to Australia (2011-2012) and had third best batting average. If not as a lead spinner, he should be part of the test team for his all round capabilities.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:58 GMT)

Well, let's be honest here. No one expected India to win anything in the test series and even the die hard Indian fans were fearing an abject thrashing before the series began. Given that background, I would say, they have done pretty well. Pushed SA till the end on the first test and showing some fight in the second as well. The batting gives hope with Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and, to some extent, Vijay. While Shami continues to impress. Not sure what Mr Nohit is doing there. All these talks of so called talent and I have never seen him come up with the performances against tough opposition.

Posted by Sachinfan8 on (December 30, 2013, 14:58 GMT)

Though India lost for a team that's rebuilding they put a commendable performance against SA..well done.India need bowlers who can bowl quick.whats the point of having umesh yadav in the squad and not picking him..the same with ojha.he is much better than ashwin.would rate this indian team the better than the other teams toured SA in past

Posted by buntyj on (December 30, 2013, 14:58 GMT)

part 1 lets be honest, while india had its moments it was lucky at the end not to lose 2-0 (10 consecutive tests abroad it nearly was, 9/10 in any case); but yes there were benefits unlike the last 2 tours- batting kohli confirmed his class, pujara showed he can now score runs away and rahane that he belongs at this level, and bowler jadeja that he can take wickets away with the kookaburra ball with an acceptable economy rate; and vijay showed grit though he had his share of luck in surviving; dhawan and r sharma disappointed and while both may continue in nz there will be questions asked in case of more failures; dhawan has some issues in shot selection and was out yesterday to an exceptional catch while rohit generally again appeared casual raising issues on temperament; dhawan may well be another sandeep patil with a handful of good knocks, and rohit an indian lawrence rowe; personally, i feel that juneja and zol should be given opportunities sooner rather than later;

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:58 GMT)

India have lacked the bowling power to win matches in this series. The batsmen have all tried hard with reasonable success but the bowlers did not stick to a task. Ishant was not bowling to a plan and was interested in only banging the ball. Zaheer never looked like swinging it at pace and Shami was good in some spells only. Jadeja worked hard for his wickets but when a side scores 500 in 1st innings a five -six wicket hall does not win you matches. The positives India can take back is the emergence of Rahane at no. 6. Rohit is yet to prove his worth and Dhoni does not look comfortable against the swinging ball. India has a lot of overseas touring to do and if they want to avoid the debacle of 2012 they have to develop a strong bowling attack pretty soon

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

Great send off for Kallis All the best Kallis , We miss. You Have a great retired life

Posted by THE_MIZ on (December 30, 2013, 14:56 GMT)

Special mention to Steyn for being the second fastest to 350 wickets! Will go down as an All time Great!

As for King Kallis, thanks for the memories! The world shall never have another Jacques Kallis. The Proteas have aptly given the great man the perfect send off.

I wonder who replaces him now. I'd go with another all rounder like McClaren or Parnell. Thoughts fellow fans?

Posted by ranjahna on (December 30, 2013, 14:56 GMT)

Sorry for this post cant help... Dhoni master of excuses...till last test jadeja was THE allrounder and when we lost today its due to lack of allrounder...man this guy really have multiple reasons for any loss...except his own batting...he is long time loitering in the team as captain..better to give kohli the responsibility and get others wickies to get in who can score 20s and 30 s

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:56 GMT)

It is perfect send off for great Kallis. he should be happy with the hundred in his last Test match. I feel India has done enough after coming here with inexperienced team. The way Rahane played in both the innings was incredible. He found he was not in intent of scoring century. he was selfless when he was in 90's. India can take many positives from this series especially from batting side. Bowling seemed quite improved on arrival Zaheer in first match but it went into same track in second. As usual Indian bowling looked miserable.

Posted by GreenBouncySpin on (December 30, 2013, 14:55 GMT)

@Cricket_Next SA is a great team, no one questioning that. But saying India is not even a good team is certainly uncalled for and goes to show how narrow minded your thinking is. India is definitely not a great team, yet. However, the way we played is clearly a sign of a very good team, at least in terms of batting. We may have failed to seize the moments but it is purely because of 2 factors - lack of good bowling and the way SA fought back in the first test. To put things in perspective, many good teams have wilted against SA in the past and performed much worse. India, with so much inexperience and lack of practice stood head-to-head for majority of the series.

Posted by Roleplay on (December 30, 2013, 14:54 GMT)

Congratulations to both India and South Africa for providing great test series unlike whats happening in Ashes (host bullies tourists).South Africa had to bring in their best game to win and Indian Team with their youngsters and inept bowling didn't disappoint fans around the globe by fighting it out. Atleast watching test cricket within top 4 countries isn't disappointing .It makes me so angry to see that guys like pujara and rahane were sitting outside due to politics and overwieght pathetic technique batsman were blocking their places.Without any doubt indian teams future looks great. And guys Kallis is Kallis and people shouldn't compare one player with another.We should feel lucky that we ve been watching the greats from past two decades who have recently retired.Kallis has left great standards for the younger generation for not only cricketing statistics point of view but also the way he played the game with grace.Murali Vijay has definitely won my heart and surprised many.

Posted by Iceman29 on (December 30, 2013, 14:54 GMT)

First of all i would like to congratulate SA for their Victory...you guys showed why you are number 1...And for India the take away for this very good series is we have found some 4 to 5 guys who are real test materials (Kohli, Pujara, Rahane, Vijay to some extent and Shami) the rest of our Indian players are not suited for Test matches.. the selectors should atleast pick some real good fast bowlers who can bowl fast and swing as well if we need to win matches abroad....Having said that SA will be tested when they visit India..Pitches will not assist fast bowlers here so i would really like to see Philander and Steyn how they perform...

Posted by ShaikhArsalan on (December 30, 2013, 14:52 GMT)

Lost the second match by 10 wickets and almost lost first one after setting up a huge target, is this TOUGH TIME? I think Indian team and management needs to raise their standards! because cricket is not what is played in India only

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

Pathetic display by Indian batsmen,specially Dhoni and Rohit. What happened to Dhoni and his coolness in this match, first of all he let the SA getaway by using the old for too long and then not applying himself as a batsman. In no way India should have lost this Test, except the fact they have to blame their own batting. Rahane should have been sent before Rohit after so many dismal performances from Rohit, 3 to be exact in this series. It looked as if Jadeja was out for batting practice ! Also Rahane threw away his wicket in the end going for a slog, instead of farming the bowling intelligently and pushing the last ball instead of swinging his bat like a tail ender! Not pardonable, so what if he scored 96, it was the Test match he was playing to save or at least make it difficult for the SA.

Posted by wolf777 on (December 30, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

India cannot have both Rahane and Rohit Sharma in the eleven at the same time. It was the wrong team composition that done India in. Last 5 wicket of The fact that South Africa added over 200 runs after being 5 down, clearly shows that India was out of bowlers. This has been the story for Indian team for few years now. Time and again, oppositions are allowed to escape after having lost the top order as Indian bowlers get tired. Still, Dhoni lives on in 6 batsmen fantasy land. I think if Dhoni does not come out of his fetish of playing 6 batsmen, it is time to change the leader.

Posted by vrkp on (December 30, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

I think MSD is still the best man to lead this young team as making Kohli or Pujara captains at this early stage may have severe impact on their batting performances. One may say that how about Smith started leading SA team at 21. But unlike Smith, Pujara or Kolhi are not surrounded by great batsmen or bowlers.

MSD should be leading at least in NZ and unless he or the team fails miserably, he should lead in Eng tour also.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:46 GMT)

Farewell Jacques Kallis, the greatest all rounder from our era, doubt we will see too many people like him again. What a servant he has been for s.a. and great ambassador for cricket. From a Pakistan fan

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:46 GMT)

it was some good sensible batting by pujara, kohli and rahane,, to an extent vijay,, that made india stay alive in the series,, but i feel we should have won the first test.. Bowling is our problem as always,, look at ishant average in the series,, 62 ( his bowling average guys),, why is he still playing for India ,, even after 53 test matches,, look at his record,,and its time for zaheer bhai to say good bye.. he never looked like taking a wicket.. Why dont we try new fast bowlers now,, give bhuvi, umesh, varun all chances,, any way our bowling cant get worse than this.. and rohit sharma.. what to say man,, i thought u rediscovered yourself,, but the way you were dismissed baffled me,, experts say u are so talented,, they how come u miss a straight ball from steyn,, i hope we make some changes for newzealand test.. my playing eleven: dhawan, vijay, pujara, kohli, rahane, rayudu, dhoni, jadeja, bhuvi, shami and umesh..

Posted by GreenBouncySpin on (December 30, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

@priceless1 I am sure you must have been waiting for this moment to abuse Indian team performance, after probably spending sleepless nights all this while. Try to give credit where its due. Indian batsmen far exceeded the expectations and proved many critics wrong by brilliant performances. You sure can't be talking about our bowling, though. It's equally toothless in India as well. But any team that goes through a transition, will do so one step at a time. One can't become a champion overnight and it requires step-by-step steady progress - which India clearly practiced and demonstrated.

Posted by soaf on (December 30, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

great performance from proteas.easily the best team in this match and in the world right now.the only disappointment in the match was lack of involvement of crowd.you can easily have a feel for it because it was a mismatch of huge proportion- world number one side vs a cricketing minnow india. we hope to see crunch games between two evenly balanced side in feb when aussies will visit us .good hospitality from SAF as well by providing our minnow guest some flat tracks so they can feel at home(as smith also state this in post match present.) but still india showed its true color and bundled out like a minnow.

Posted by B.C.G on (December 30, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

I would like everyone to recognize Robin Peterson's performance.Why do so many fans bash him?He gives his all for the team.Guess what-SA would have won this 2-0;if............. RPeterson had played in Joburg.His bowling would have been hit(was Tahir better)but his batting would have won them the game.Plus his fielding is superman like.Real disgrace how people call for his head at the merest opportunity.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:44 GMT)

talha malik@ agree with you mate because a team who even lost to zimbewaye dose not deserve to be in the top 10 ranking.

Posted by Zaheerahmed on (December 30, 2013, 14:43 GMT)

India was lucky to escape from losing 1st test but reality dawned on them today. I was right in saying that they intentionally avoided touring abroad for last two years as they knew that they would be humiliated. Outside the comfort of home they have a club level attack. In their last ten matches abroad they have managed to take 20 wickets in a test match only twice. Dhoni is completely confused captain once touring abroad. He was playing with three seamers in 2nd test match against SA but decided to use the same ball for almost 150 overs.

Posted by coarsecricketer on (December 30, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

Before the SA vs India Test series began I posted the facts about India's performance in SA, compared to SA's in India. I pointed out that, based on those facts, India had very little chance of winning in SA - despite what some of their unrealistic fans were predicting. And so it has turned out: the Indian team departs having won nothing. SA won the ODI's 2-0 and the truncated Test series 1-0.

Many congratulations to the SA Test team on a fantastic win, fully worthy of the world's no. 1 Test side. And well done Jacques Kallis for all the pleasure you have given fans of Test cricket over 18 years, and for going out on such a wonderful high note.

(By the way, I have to laugh reading comments here from Indian fans outraged by the (very few) umpiring mistakes in the Tests. You and the BCCI can't have it both ways. Either accept DRS or don't complain.)

Posted by THE_MIZ on (December 30, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

First of all, Well done to the Proteas for an excellent performance, bouncing back from the criticism of the first test. Steyn proving once more why he's been the best in the world for many years now.

As for India, I'm not going to belittle India's individual's performances, as Harmony and his fellow bashers have about SA players. Instead huge credit must be given to India's very impressive young guns particularly Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and Shami. Dhawan was disappointing, Vijay didn't manage to build too often on solid starts and Rohit never truly looked in. Regardless of their scores the others managed to look comfortable and so I believe this Indian batting line up will really be successful in the coming year. Lots of respect from SA. The same story about bowling...apart from Shami, india needs to find new fast bowlers because relying on 1 spinner isn't enough to take 20. If india do manage this, the batsmen will guide india to overseas wins Well played india.

Posted by fast_gun on (December 30, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

After watching the final ball, I can confirm 3 things. Number 1: Steyn is undoubtedly the best bowler going right now, watching him bowl with the fierce passion he did today was superb! Number 2: If india continue playing like they did in this series they will win more tests away from home, I forsee a series win in England. Their batters showed application in trying conditions, it was not easy. Virat and Pujara are pure class and an equal treat to watch. Number 3: SA need to play test series longer than 2 games! its absolutely atrocious that we always see these 2 test series, if only to see more from Steyn! Wow! he is really great to watch (and I say that with rose tinted glasses on!) LONG LIVE TEST CRICKET!

Posted by wapuser on (December 30, 2013, 14:40 GMT)

rahane should play at no 5 instead of rohit. bowling is worry for india as always

Posted by suman2 on (December 30, 2013, 14:40 GMT)

I think it's overall a good series from an Indian point of view. They fought. On the other hand Rohit's career so far has been exasperating and infuriating. As for Dhoni, he had said that he would possibly retire from Test cricket. I think he ought to reassess. We do not need meaningless 200s at home and 20s abroad. I am sure he ought to play only limited overs cricket and lead India. I am even more sure that he will continue to be India's test captain. I am with Mohinder Amarnath on this issue. He ought to have given way to someone else after Australia away series whitewash.

Posted by sharath_rao on (December 30, 2013, 14:38 GMT)

Difference was in the bowling department - Indian bowlers could not bowl out SA on final day of first test but SA bowlers did that on final day of second test.

Sending a night watchman for Kohli would have helped - someone who could defend against spinners 4th day evening and then play for few overs 5th day morning. Loosing Kohli first ball on 5th day was a disaster !

Posted by wapuser on (December 30, 2013, 14:38 GMT)

indian team done great job but bowlers nd rohit sharm

Posted by Cricket_Next on (December 30, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

This series shows why India has ways-to-go before it can be called even a good team (leave alone greatness). If they had seized the key moments, the series results could easily have been reversed with 1-0 in favor of India. If you cannot take 8 wickets on a final day pitch and cannot drive-in the advantage of 180/1 or 315/5, you will forever be chasing the top teams. The search for a potent bowling attack (bane of India right from the first day of the teams existence) continues.

Congratulations to South Africa and especially to Steyn.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

Being an Indian I didn't expect a good performance from this Indian team but I must say I am pretty happy the way they have performed. This team needs minors tweaks and is all good to the take on the top teams in the world.First and foremost remove Dhoni from captaincy and throw him out of the team his negative tactics have cost us many matches Wanders was India's match to loose and what we do bowl bouncers wide of off stump and place fielders in boundary if SA wanna win let them hit I am happy with a draw.Day 2 of Durban Steyn mayhem and Dhoni has his mind set on a draw again whole of day 4 he bowls with older ball with his so called tactic of if you wanna win score quick hit runs I am in no hurry I am looking for draw.We all know about his ability as Batsman in test so show him the door many dhoni fans may say he has done this and that Dhoni is never aggressive in tests home series against WI 6 wickets in India 45 odd runs 15 overs we agree for draw.So many tours we need a new man

Posted by ABHI-DCricketFan on (December 30, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

As expected the only fight that could have come from indian batsmen was from Kohli , Pujara and Rahane . Dhoni , Rohit Sharma and Jadeja were walking wickets and they proved it once again . Dhoni once again proved his inefficiency outside the subcontinent and Rohit Sharma will need 100 test matches to justify his selection . Indian selectors need to look beyond these too . There is no point coming back to the same players after they score runs in IPL . I think we need more guys with solid technique if we want to do well in test cricket

Posted by Amol_Ind_SA on (December 30, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

The 90s scored here by the Indians were of higher value and quality than the centuries scored by them in the previous Test against Tahir.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 30, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

@ Talha Malik,

Agreed ICC should do that. But the problem is when other teams lose 4-0 (Australia), and 3-0 (Srilanka) away from home, ICC backs off from your suggestions. And also a certain team has no home so if they lose overseas (which will be all the time) , ICC becomes confused about which standard it should apply for the test ranking.

Posted by Simon.Says on (December 30, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

A DRAW is the best India could manage in whole tour and even that was due to coward decision by SMITH wasting all the effort from AB and FAF otherwise humiliation was all there for so called champs. Nearly conceding a world record 4th innings chase. Pathetic performance by India.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

Some tough questions and realizations post this series : 1.) India cannot win abroad if they don't have fast bowlers capable of taking 20 wickets/match. 2.) Do the Indian think tank really think Ishant is better than Yadav? I would really like to see an explanation. 3.) SA are the number 1 team for a reason. Their decision to play for a draw in the first match has been vindicated. 4.) Jadeja really looks like the right choice in overseas conditions. He bowls at a fast pace and hence is helped more in bouncy pitches , aside from his extra-ordinary accuracy. However, I feel India is missing Ashwin's batting skills. India's selection panel is however really good and i have full faith in them for solving the problem of fast bowlers.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

@Maverick_26 dont be dumb, india no1 in ODI minus HOME GROUNDS is like no8 in ODI, and PAK is no6 with all away series and we managed to win in SA something u cant u flat track players.. even Champ Trophy 13 the pitches were so flat for bating and spin, had there been bouncy tracks and swinging conditions typical english, india would not even reach semis.. u guys should thank ICC(indian cricket council) for those tracks in england. Cricket is not about bating only, Pak team consists of youngsters having not much exposiure to international cricket still we manage to win away! and dont forget the ipl advantage ur youngsters get.. in current time still Pak is way better than india, so STFU and accept it

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:34 GMT)

Dhoni - "I'm happy with bowling performance." WOW! He has been saying this in losing after match interviews from 2011 again and again and again and he is still happy with this mediocre bowling attack that can't take 20 wickets.

He should be happy that he is blessed with true fighting cricketers like Pujara, Kohli, Rahane Shami and Vijay in the team, otherwise rest are all flat track ODI and T20 bullies.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

@sharongill no team is 'world class" at the moment.Aus get thrashed in ind and eng.eng get thrashed in aus and uae.SA choke at the slightest pressure in in icc tornament.india are the same.india sent a rookie inexperienced team to the toughest place for a subcontitent team and done a decent job.yes they do need a couple of world class fast bowlers...and the odi performances were because of only 2 days of prep resulting the inter board feud, reasons for which we dont know...so relax no need to blast other countries as your anti india sentiments get expressed....chill down and make reasonable comments...SA are the only team close to be called world class....

Posted by StaalBurgher on (December 30, 2013, 14:33 GMT)

@Maverick_26 - Wow so you are saying that one day in the future SA will no longer be no.1 and someone else will be and that makes SA not really no.1 today? lol

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

at the end of day one india were 181/1. most of indian fans said SA bowling is nothing and steyn is not much better bowler against india. but the end result is SA drive home easily. kohli, rahane , vijay , pujara are excellent. but dhoni , rohit , dhawan are did nothing. the loss bcoz of these three guys. shame on u three. anyhow its a better performance while compared to past.

Posted by INDIANFOOL on (December 30, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

India won nothing in SA. Even the first match they were lucky to secure a draw. If SA had another couple of overs they would have snatched the target. Being the number one in ODIs and number 2 in tests that's a pathetic show by them once again outside sub continent. May be even worse than Pakistan and SL who actually won something last time they toured SA.

Posted by shinewindies on (December 30, 2013, 14:30 GMT)

@ all those India Bashers who at first opportunity just jump on criticizing Indians instead of appreciating a hard fought Test Series which is a rarity now a days.

Ok lets assume if these 2 tests were being played by Pakistan in SA right now. Lets start with Joburg, Pak 1st Innings 77 all out.(on that wicket on day 1 i guess i am giving 20 runs more to Pakistani batsmen, never mind) Sa 1st Innings 223 all out.(assuming the best attack in the world which just comprises of Ajmal and Md.Irfan bowls well, never mind) Pak 2nd Innings 140 all out. Sa wins by an innings and some runs.

Now Durban, Pak Ist inn 163 all out( still giving benefit of doubt to Pak batsmen that one of them would score 50) Sa 1st inn 329 all Out Pak 2nd inn 151 all out, again Pak loose by an innings. (And mind you both tests would finish within 2 ok sorry 3 days).

Would want comments here from fans of good cricket worldwide if they agree with me or not,

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (December 30, 2013, 14:29 GMT)

Very well said by @Harmony_not_Discord - Excellent match and brilliant performance by SA to win the series 1-0. SA managed to draw the last match by the brilliant batting from Faf and AB chasing 458 and they nearly came close to winning it. But here on relatively easier pitch for batting their pace bowling showed its class. SA deserved winners with emphatic 10 wicket victory.

Dale Steyn became 2nd fastest bowler ever to get to 350 wickets mark after Murali. What a bowler! All well and good to be patriotic but it just shows that the ones who belittle Steyn here (the whinger Harmony111, GRVJPR & the Ilk) are just meanies and not true cricket lovers.

From India's point of view, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane and Shami showed they are talented and the ones to watch for the future. India needs to look for good pacers

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:29 GMT)

Enough is enough,dhoni should be Sacked from test cricket,sack vijay,zaheer n rohit also,bring in manoj tiwary for the australian tour.

Posted by BlackShipWreck on (December 30, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

@faircricketindinus: sorry but that is incredibly one eyed. I'm not a SA fan but they deserved to win here and 2-0 was probably a fairer reflection. Having drs wouldn't have made any difference but we all know why the BCCI don't want it. Enough said.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

Dale Steyn - "I'll remember the wicket of Pujara for a while, he's a good batsman as well."

That sums it up nicely what a player we have in the making. Good luck the new "bullet Proof Wall" of India. You've made me your fan after religiously following Dravid.

Posted by ddmumbaiindian on (December 30, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Wow what a series. I had expected this to be a complete lope sided test series. But a nail bitting Joburg test and than SA proving their supremacy against relatively or rather absolute inexperienced side. I had mentioned that Rahane is no possibility in test side, but he made me eat my words. Accepted SA has defeated Ind with sheer brilliance with bat and bowl. Well played SA, we gave u equal fight with bat but India has miles to go before fighting with ball.

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

thank you BCCI for according due respect to the one & only SRT by arranging a home series. it allowed the fans to give him the farewell he deserves, in the exhilarating atmosphere he richly deserved for his last test instead of playing in empty grounds like Kallis.

Posted by henchart on (December 30, 2013, 14:24 GMT)

Indian fans got to stop making excuses for their team and accept that key to win tests in Aus,Eng and SA is having bowlers who can take 20 wkts .Second Innings matters and Indians floundered at Kingsmead while SA showed they are the better team by batting out at Bull Ring. Rohit Sharma is not cut out for bouncy pitches and Dhawan needs to be patient. Pujara,Kohli and Rahane proved their worth while BCCI needs to do a serious rethink on MSD's captaincy in tests.Indians might survive in NZ but a pasting awaits them in Eng.

Posted by A_B_C_D_E_F on (December 30, 2013, 14:23 GMT)

For those that don't know, many South Africans (myself included) had decided to boycott this series in protest of the manner in which the BCCI have conducted themselves. Absolutely shocking display and total disregard for other governing bodies within the sport. I read comments where the Indian batsman are described as "flat track bullies". Anyone got any adjectives for what kind of bullies the BCCI are ?

For those complaining about the bad umpiring decisions, again the BCCI are using their power to bully the ICC. Why should countries be given the option? All countries that can afford the DRS technology should be forced to use it. The fact that Indians don't really know how to use the DRS correctly is not excuse enough. Sure it's not 100% but why not accept 98% versus the 90% that we have without it ?

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

Get Sehwag in for newzealand tour one last chance for him.Include Varunaaron ,shami Iishanath should play ranji .

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

Guys....the fact in contemporary cricket is every team is a champ in its own backyard...no matter whether its SA, India, England or Australia. None of them has the ability to win a series abroad. Those days are over!!

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 30, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

@bladerunner - Yes done to SA they are the top test team. We will one day meet your team and ours. You predicted a whitewash for India in tests? I guess you win some, liose some and draw some!! Its only a game.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

kallis is a great cricketer but certainly not the greatest.there are different facets to greatness and hence comparison with tendulkar is meaningless.... 1.never heard kallis winning many odis with his batting.if a score of 300 is on board he is practically useless.not many players survive with strike rate of 72.many SAfrican fans have questions his place in odi setup. 2.he does not counterattack due to his low range of shots.never heard him of seizing the initiative,or enforcing a strong position like the ponting ,tendulkar and lara did. 3.struggled in aus ,eng,. 4.unable to help SA win major trophies inspite of having a champ team. 5.people talk of his batting on spicy green tops,but only AUS has fast bowlers to exploit those conditions.medium pacers and spinners are cannon fodders without spin and reverse. 6.he was no way a matchwinner but definitely a great matchsaver. 7.failed to inspire a generation of cricketers like tendulkar and lara ,and nobody wants to be a kallis.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

legendary way of retirement! ,, good job Jk

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:18 GMT)

Complete white wash by south africa... nothing gained by indian players , now the reason may stand as" YOUNG INDIAN SIDE, INEXPERIENCED".......

Posted by BnH1985Fan on (December 30, 2013, 14:16 GMT)

Hopefully India fans will be take this as an unexpected. They put up a great fight and should be proud of their new batsmen. India lucky to lose by 1 rather than both matches. Bring on Australia! Steyn vs Johnson should be great fun!

Posted by yorkslanka on (December 30, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

It has to be said that India do have some positives from this tour despite being unable to win a single match. Kohli and Pujara (and rahane to a certain extent) have batted well on foreign wickets and that's what any team needs, two or three guys who can score big runs when playing away..don't be too disheartened Indian friends...

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

@yorkslanka ...every team especially ind and pak hunt SL for food home and away,it is like an insurance series,when things arent going well..how many tests have your team won in aus ,eng ,ind? zero.sanga and mahela are pure flat track bullies.sl is not an international quality team now.india now can thrash you playing 4 bowlers and 2 batsmen virat and dhoni. congrats SA your are definitely the no1 side.shame SA people who do not love their sportsmen,and calling for 5 test series...hardly 5000 people for kallis last test...you must be kidding me....

Posted by bigdhonifan on (December 30, 2013, 14:12 GMT)

@priceless1 India is the only team given a tough time to SA in SA for last 5 years...

Posted by imtiazjaleel on (December 30, 2013, 14:12 GMT)

Definitely a much better performance from India.Nobody gave them a chance after the ODI's. I felt the bowling let down India more than batting. 458 runs with enough time to bowl SA out in the first test.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:10 GMT)

Dale Steyn to Rohit Sharma - "I've got more runs than you this series, and You have done nothing in your career."

LOL Indian here but i agree with steyn that he has done nothing in his career. Talent talent talent that's what i only hear, when it comes to perform, there's nothing to speak expect few once in a blue moon inning against some mediocre team at home.

Posted by bharath241222 on (December 30, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

Indian team cannot win away tests till someone removes Rohit Sharma from the team. Scoring centuries against spineless West Indian team should never be the selection factor. True gritt shown by Rahane,,Rohit cant even manage a total of 50 runs in this whole tour,,,this sums up his credibility,,,

Posted by ARJQ on (December 30, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

I am from Pakistan but love cricket more than my team. I think India have put up a good show, win or lose does not matter - it is the way you play. With this young team they played quite well and batsmen did their part. Bowling has been problematic area for India for long time. BCCI focuses on finding good batsmen but don't understand why not they focus on finding good bowlers that is their real problem, they always try to find bowler who can bat as well. If India have two quick bowlers who can take 2 or 3 early wickets then Indian team can be a tough side to beat even outside India. Batsmen cant always take the pressure of bowling failure. Zaheer, Ashwin to me are ordinary bowlers, might perform well in India but not on foreign wickets. The solution does not lay in removing Dhoni from captaincy, to me he is the best captain after Kapil but he does not have good bowlers to bowl. Rohit or Dhawan's failure comes next discussion. Only thing to improve right now is bowling!

Posted by Harmony_not_Discord on (December 30, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

Excellent match and brilliant performance by SA to win the series 1-0. SA managed to draw the last match by the brilliant batting from Faf and AB chasing 458 and they nearly came close to winning it. But here on relatively easier pitch for batting their pace bowling showed its class. SA deserved winners with emphatic 10 wicket victory.

Dale Steyn became 2nd fastest bowler ever to get to 350 wickets mark after Murali. Taking wickets on helpful pitches is one thing for a pacer but its cutting edge to take 9 on an unhelpful pitch. What a bowler! All well and good to be patriotic but it just shows that the ones who belittle Steyn here (the whinger Harmony111, GRVJPR & the Ilk) are just meanies and not true cricket lovers to be able give credit where it's due.

From India's point of view, Pujara, Kohli and Rahane showed they are talented and the ones to watch for the future. And India needs to look for good pacers if they are to do well overseas.

Posted by RESM on (December 30, 2013, 14:08 GMT)

Its really great to see Kohli, Rahane, Pujara and Vijay coming off in flying colors..The worry for India is to get a good wicket taking bowlers becoz thts the only way we r gonna get 20 wickets to win test matches...

Really sad tht Rahane was not supported by the lower order and middle order .. atleast a century from him would have been something to savor for the disappointed Indian fans... Lets hope tht this series becomes a turning point in India s checkered overseas tours history..

Dhoni, Rohit and Dhawan need to put greater price on their wickets esp abroad...

Posted by vrkp on (December 30, 2013, 14:08 GMT)

Though I'm sad that we lost a test/series once again in away series but overall the batters have done well. In my opinion, the team selection possibly contributed to this defeat more than Steyn bowling or poor bowling from our pacers or even the LBW decisions. I can't believe that Dhoni went with only one spinner even after checking the pitch conditions. If only Ashwin played instead of either Rohit or Dhawan, we might have at least drawn this match. I can see why Rohit is given one more chance after all he scored back to back centuries only 2 tests before and that under trying circumstances (83 for 5 and scoring 50 plus with no.11). If Dhoni wanted 6 batters then he should have dropped one pacer and kept Ashwin (based on pitch condition).

One thing I must admit. Before the series started, i didn't think Rahane can stay at the crease for more than 30balls in any of the innings. But he made me to eat humble pie. Well played AR, it would have been great if he had scored the 100.

Posted by tokoloshe on (December 30, 2013, 14:07 GMT)

Great cricket, great players and a great advertisement for the greatest game on earth. Loved every minute of it. Well done SA you good thing! Well done to the young Indian side, you have made the rest of the world take note. They will be there or there abouts in the next year or two. Hope Amla gets that front/back leg problem sorted before the Aussies get here.Bring on the Aussies!

Posted by DhairyBoghani on (December 30, 2013, 14:06 GMT)

Now BCCI stated to make pitches which help fasters. On the first day of Ranking matches total 109 wickets fallen of 10 matches(11 per match). So we will find two spots of fasters in short time to win matches all over the world.

Posted by StreetView on (December 30, 2013, 14:06 GMT)

@TommyTuckerSaffa Totally agree with you on your assessment of every Indian Batsman. Especially Rohit . Even South Africans seem to understand why he is in the side :P

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

I think ICC needs to award and penalize teams on overseas performance if it wants it rating system to be taken seriously. The No2 side in the world has lost 4-0 4-0 to Aus and Eng and now 1-0 to SA.

Posted by vish2020 on (December 30, 2013, 14:03 GMT)

Why is it that when India beats Aus 4-0 at home its fault of flat track but when Aus and SA win at home they are superb test teams?? Guys, it's just two teams winning at home. Nothing else. We do that too at home. Good fight India! Congrats on win SA and Kallis we will surely miss you!

Posted by SA_FAN315 on (December 30, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

This was a below average show from the SA side ...even though they won the series and dominated the odi series i still fell they should have won both the test with an innings defeat....a 1-0 win for SA was only acceptable had they played in IND ....but in home conditions 1-0 result is still below par performance that we've come to see from this SA side... Love to see BCCI invite SA to tour IND in the near future .... That would be much more interesting because SA is also the best and the strongest touring side...

Posted by Maverick_26 on (December 30, 2013, 14:01 GMT)

Well if stats and numbers is all that matters in the end -- then IND is the No# 1 team in ODI & No# 2 in Test & T20 . SA on the other hand is No# 1 in Test but No# 4 in ODI & No#2 in T20. To explain this mathematically -- IND -- 1(ODI) + 2(Test) + 2(T20) = 5 & SA -- 4(ODI) + 2 + 4 = 7. This shows that when we talk about which team currently is the best in all the 3 formats when looked together , its clearly IND. Stop boasting about the one off 2-0 ODI victory. The rankings are calculated over a period of 2-3 years which shows who is a consistent performer. SA lost to PAK recently in their own backyard. Lost to PAK...seriously? a team which is at No# 6 in ODI rankings! -- The honest truth though is that SA is a good test team and difficult to beat when they play in their own BACKYARD! and they have done well playing abroad as well in the last 2-3 years...Hence the No# 1 test ranking. But IND and AUS are in the process of building strong teams....its just the matter of time!!

Posted by edgie on (December 30, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

India did well, but were not good enough to win either tests. SA showed true guts to draw the first test, just as they did in Aus, and like the test series in aus, went to on win the next test and series. Mark of a true no 1 team, they know just when to bring out their best performances.

Promising team the Indian one, but they need to learn humility as well when they know their backs are against the wall.

On to the Aussies in SA, now that is going to a mouth watering series!

Posted by vjust on (December 30, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

Give credit to Indian batsmen Rahane, pujara and kohli . For India being an away series this was not a disaster

Posted by IndTheBest on (December 30, 2013, 14:00 GMT)

Despite of result, it was a good series. I was expecting Indian team to draw the 2nd test match as well but better team won. No blame to cloud/rain on first day. Though this young team performed fairly. I'd still suggest to have some changes in the test team to make it better. First change - Rahane and Gambhir to open the inning and take Rishi Dhawan or Shewag at #6 will make it stronger team. Good luck for the NZ tour.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:58 GMT)

And one more thing-if you are supposed to lose abroad against stronger teams quite inevitably,the use of DRS will not further worsen your fate than this.So from next tour allow the use of DRS ,atleast overseas.Had you gone with it we might have drawn the match,to say the least.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:57 GMT)

Good bye,Jacques Henry Kallis.U will remain as a great all-rounder in history. Now that the series is over,India have some highs and lows

1.India batted well.The tail needs to stick to the crease. 2.The young team stepped up to show that they are not underdogs. 3.India avoided a white wash. 4 Jadeja bowled well but the selectors will have to do some changes.Bring in Ashwin and Bhuvi in the place of Sharma and Dhawan as he has flopped on this tour.

These changes can do wonders for this team

Posted by israrak on (December 30, 2013, 13:55 GMT)

@roleplay ... i dunno ur talking about which time 52 all out in uae ... about your 4-0 win over australia ... it was not a big achievement as this was the most weak team of Aus that ever visit India but for pak defeating Eng 3-0 was a big achievement as they were no 1 at tht time they whitewashed you in Eng and defeated your team at your own home ... n stop making excuses as we didn't have any practice to do same with pak they didn't have any practice match still they won the odi series ... we also won in india last time … And if you r talking about your win in End in 2007 Pak has won 3 test series in England ... Pakistan has not been playing at their home since 2009 still they are performing well ... so mate instead of critizing other teams first look at your team ...

Posted by bohurupi on (December 30, 2013, 13:55 GMT)

Indians can console that they were not as badly battered by SA in the test series as the were in the ODI. They were expected to be outplayed by a crushing 2.0. Somehow managed to escape from a total humiliation.

Posted by Temuzin on (December 30, 2013, 13:54 GMT)

Well played South Africa. You were deserving to win this series. Congratulations to them and hats off to King Kallis. He is one of the greatest players to have played this game. Well played to this young Indian side too. Young Indian players played very well despite their lack of experience on fast and bouncy pitches playing against one of the greatest bowlers of all time- Dale steyn. I think Indian batting is in great shape and as time passes by they will become very dominant. Only thing India needs is to find/or train two good fast bowlers. Sharma is not good enough at this level and Zaheer is old now. I hope Varun Aoron will be fit for NZ tour. Any way good series from both team

Posted by marubini on (December 30, 2013, 13:54 GMT)

As a saf I wanna say india gave us a tough series and congratulations to them,I think that young man rahane will be a star in future,oh what can I say about steyn?he is still the best fast bowler around.salute to king kallis enjoy ur golf mate.

Posted by Jimmyvida on (December 30, 2013, 13:52 GMT)

Well done SA. SA board should ask Kallis to retire after Australian tour. Good to see some of the batsmen from India apply themselves on these 'foreign' wickets. Kumar and Shami as opening bowlers. Send the rest home. I watched Dhawan in the second innings. He really looked out of sorts. In the upcoming series against NZ, realize that Boult swings the ball away from right handers and brings it back. Here's another problem for India's batsmen who are used to groping outside off stump. If India isn't careful, it can loose handsomely against NZ. We'll see, won't we.

Posted by priceless1 on (December 30, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

This one day series and last Test proved that India is a toothless tiger when away from home

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

Another "specifically designed stat" to highlight why Kallis's WAY TO GO is the best of all; and why "Tendulkar and Ponting lived long enough to see themselves as a villain " harming the game of cricket more than anything...

Number of Test Innings Between the batter's final innings and his last 3-figure innings>>> Tendulkar.......41 Ponting..........12 Lara...............2 Kallis..............0

P.S. Dont forget Ponting was dropped from ODI before he CHOSE to FALL in his last test series!

P.S.2...Yes I am biased, and will dig out anything to humiliate Tendulkar and Ponting for their selfishness:P

Posted by Sharo0nGill on (December 30, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

So there you are the world champs...this is how the series results stand for you: 1st ODI: you lose by 140 runs, Rohit misses 16 balls in a row(he would have hit those 16 for sixes at home). 2nd ODI: again la loss by a staggering 136 runs, a top order collapse, de Cock with a century again. 3rd ODI: de Cock with a third century on the trot, again the stage set for a 140 margin defeat,,rain saves you.

1st Test:you are saved the humility of the largest Test defeat in the world by a mere 8 runs, only a over or a couple more would have done it 2nd Test: a loss by 10 wickets..

Lets see all that exaggerated exaltations of this mediocre, over-rated batting line-up that my Indian friends will come up with..with the stats above in mind, you definitely cannot picture a world class team..

Posted by FairCricket_indinaus on (December 30, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

Good umpiring would have secured a draw or even Indian win...not just bad decisions, there were heaps of marginal ones which didnt go indias way but it was the other way around fro SA and India were at the receiving end for all sorts...

Posted by cric_fan123 on (December 30, 2013, 13:50 GMT)

Stats: Dhoni overseas records since 2011 - 9 matches, 18 innings, 394 runs, 21.9 avg, 3 fifties Ashwin overseas record since his debut - 4 matches, 8 innings, 181 runs, 22.63 avg, 1 fifty

The question really becomes why do we need Dhoni on a bouncing pitch when Ashwin can play as better.

Posted by Diaz54 on (December 30, 2013, 13:50 GMT)

Bad Dhoni interview! He used bad decisions for failing today! The fact that Kallis was given out first test match is why there was a draw in the first test.

That said India should be proud of their young new batters?

Good luck Kallis I have enjoyed watching you. You are the best! Riaz from Pakistan

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:49 GMT)

Glad to see all of Jacques Kallis' fans turned up at the ground for his farewell match. All 200 of them. this despite of free tickets. #emptystands

Posted by yorkslanka on (December 30, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

@ harmony 111- you forgot one option,that people disagree with the bullying tactics of the bcci with schoolyard tantrums and their response is not to come?

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 30, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

Dhoni has scored 87 runs in 4 innings @ an AVG of 21.00. What a champ. LOL. I mean home track champ. Didn't he score a double ton against Aussies recently ??. Ah..sorry it was on an Indian flat deck.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:45 GMT)

congrats south Africa and Kallis.Disheartening for an Indian but this has been the way Indian team has fared abroad against strong teams.Winning at home on spinning tracks fills the heart with joy alright but its transformation ito sorrow is almost inevitable and sordid with an overseas tour.Time for selectors to ponder over producing a bowling attack which can take 20 wickets twice.Zaheer and Ishant have a big question mark over their presence in the side.Dhoni is almost done with overseas tours.Three successive defeats,what else?so sorry for him.Great man!And the great kallis is doing rounds of the ground.What a moment! will miss you Kallis!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:45 GMT)

Well done South Africa, well done Jacques Kallis and well done to India who did pretty well over the series. But these two test series are a joke. This needed at least 3 and should have been 5 considering you have the current #1 and a former #1 which is performing better of late.

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:45 GMT)

i had huge respect for SA players but in this series all those negative comments, many of which were plainly disrespectful if not derogatory, & then their on field behaviour today (when they were on top & there was no need for it) has meant that i'm no longer a fan

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:44 GMT)

South Africa should not be allowed to host any further Test matches at home IF they cannot even bring in crowds of 5000 per day. And, they were demanding India play more Tests :-) To empty stadiums ??? Who pays for it ??? India ??? No bloody way.

For a country that claims to have a sporting heritage, they are an absolute disgrace.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:44 GMT)

The much better team won! Congrats SA! It really is hilarious to read the absurd excuses that Indian fans are giving for their defeat. No surprises there since Indian fans are always sore losers. Face the fact buddies. You lost!

Posted by yorkslanka on (December 30, 2013, 13:44 GMT)

Congrats to South Africa on a good win and a clean sweep of the odi and test series. @ yousefahmed- what happened to all you prefer series bragging about how you were the real #1 team and your batsmen would destroy the SA bowlers?? No doubt you will spout your usual boring vitriol about Sri Lanka but at least we won 2/5 Odis and 1/3 tests in South Africa..

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:44 GMT)

After the Indian innt the match so far, all Ravi Shastri could think of is how good is SA bowling, their fighting ability and how some Indians palyed well. No word about the howlers from the Umpires. This was the main issue because of which SA able to win this match so easily. Ravi Shastri shame on you. Any other commentator would have made atleast passing remarks on this issue.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

congratulations to SA. They win the match, also win the test series

Posted by yorkslanka on (December 30, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

Congrats to South Africa on a good win and a clean sweep of the odi and test series. @ yousefahmed- what happened to all you prefer series bragging about how you were the real #1 team and your batsmen would destroy the SA bowlers?? No doubt you will spout your usual boring vitriol about Sri Lanka but at least we won 2/5 Odis and 1/3 tests in South Africa..

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

The reason why Dhoni plays with nonly 4 bowlers is to hide his inability to score runs and contribute, so to cover that he plays extra batsmen. Look at Ab and Haddin, they are the reason why their teams are doing so well.

Dhoni is extremely defensive and will never succeed on test because his horrible technique is tailor made for t20 and odi cricket only, where he is unmatched and the best finisher, but as far as tests are concerned he is no where close.

Posted by tao585 on (December 30, 2013, 13:42 GMT)

I would sum up India Tour of South Africa.

India definitely played better than other teams who visited SA recently but more than this I noticed arrogance in this young team which was not there when Sachin was around. Indian bowling was far better than other teams who visited SA recently. So, dont need to drop your bowlers unnecessarily.

Count the blessings. This has not been White Wash and believe me SA had to play their 'BEST' cricket to win.

Best Wishes for NZ Series.

Posted by parikshit_Ops on (December 30, 2013, 13:39 GMT)

Now an important thing that should be noticed here. Ranji records do matter. Rahane and of course Pujara who have scored heavily in Ranji have proved successful in International Tests. Now its time for BCCI Selectors to find some hidden talent among Ranji players. Please do away with your ridiculous and often faulty habit of giving chances to players in Tests just because they were successful in IPL/ODIs e.g. Raina and in the Past, Yuvi. Tests do require different qualities from limited overs cricket. 2 Players I want to highlight here ( There are others too). One is Manpreet Juneja, plays for Gujarat 23 Yrs Old Avg. of 58+ and 5 100s. Another player which maynot be so much known is Ankit Bawne from Maharashtra, 21 Yr old lad with 54+ Avg,, in prolific form and already with 8 100s, Hope Selectors plan for future now..

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

@ lady cricket..completely concur..Hats off to India for a very competitive duel. Pujara, Rahane, Vijay and Shami are worls class. Will ne watvhing tjem closely from SA..

Posted by CricketFever11 on (December 30, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

Pls include Ashok Dinda, Vinay Kumar and RP Singh to Indian squad to strengthen their bowling powers.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:37 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar did't play his last series in South Africa only because he knew he would not end on a winning note. That is why BCCI invited West Indies to the dead pitches of India. lol.

Posted by DhairyBoghani on (December 30, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

Despite defeat we fond out four batsman up to the order in Vijay, Poojara, Kohli, Rahane & two good bowlers in Shami and Jadeja.

Just need two good young agresive cansistant fast bowler along with Shami.(B.Kumar can be one of them).

I bet then India can be a great team like SA/early AUS/early WI.

Posted by Blade-Runner on (December 30, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

Congratz to SA for their 10 wkts victory over this home track champs. And Congratz to India too, for their renewed away record of 9-0. Bravo !!!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

You know it was DRS that prevented SA from winning the first test.Kallis was scoring freely that day.SA would have won that test by tea

Posted by cric_fan123 on (December 30, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

While the big 3 - Dravid, Laxman, Sachin were scrutinised to death for their failures in previous tours, what about Dhoni? I am still unclear about Dhoni's role in the team in overseas test matches. A wicketkeeper who can't bat? I know everyone says he is the best captain India has produced and 'Captain Cool'. But fact is, he is a liability and a walking wicket in overseas test matches. The tail literally starts from him, along with 4 bowlers we really can't have 5 people who cant hold their own against fast bowling in the team. That is simply asking for trouble. Whenever the top 3-4 fail India is bound to lose matches with him down the order. While he can remain captain for t20, odi and domestic tests, we need to find a replacement for overseas matches. He has to go sooner than later.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:36 GMT)

Well played India for the first time in a long time away from home. However, King Kallis proved he is a bigger legend than Tendulkar with his batting average and wickets and fielding. He is no doubt the most complete cricketer ever lived.

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

Umpires seem intent on making India opt for DRS. maybe they don't want to work. Even while bowling the marginal decisions went against them (at least 3 i remember were umpire's call & 1 was totally wrong) and when they were batting all the wrong decisions (2 of them) went against them

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

Phew finally SA managed to win this test vs India, thanks to some really poor umpiring & unsporting tactics used by them on Day One.

Sa were 2.5 wickets away from losing a match they were supposed to win in 3 days.

SA win on day 5 a match they were supposed to win in 3 days, thanks largely to umpires.

Some people will say poor umpiring could have been avoided had DRS been there but my point is, not having DRS is no excuse for poor umpiring. Kohli's wicket was due to an atrocious decision as was the not out decision for Peterson's lbw appeal. There were other poor decisions too but frankly they are too many.

Kallis got a rough one in J'burg but it actually helped SA as ABD came in early and got quick runs. Had Kallis stayed there, SA won't have got quick runs & SA would have eventually lost.

So SA played well to win this test & series, as was expected. India did well in patches but need better bowling. Batting is good & will get better as they gain exp.

Posted by mzm149 on (December 30, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

Congratulations to South Africa for winning against the most overrated team. Complete whitewash would have been even better. But 10 wicket win in test and two 100+ wins in ODIs is an eye opener for those Indian fans who consider their team invincible.

Posted by CricketFever11 on (December 30, 2013, 13:34 GMT)

Pedestrian Bowling. Pedestrian batting. Way to go world champions.... Lol......

Posted by aussie1993 on (December 30, 2013, 13:34 GMT)

@congratulations to sa from an aussie nd india after odi drumping and 1 lucky draw test now lost the final on durban sub continent track

Posted by Crazy_Pk on (December 30, 2013, 13:33 GMT)

Another defeat to Team Ind. Now be ready to listen an expected excuse from MS Dhoni. Can anyone tell what did team ind get in this tour???? Hey Indian... it was your great team india... BC

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 13:33 GMT)

@ Ahmedpakistan6 Have some sense nobody deserves to get bad decisions. Maybe your pathetic SL team needs luck to win matches not this SA team.

Posted by CricketFever11 on (December 30, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

Getting hammered all over the park. Where are the ODI double centurions?

Posted by jjradha on (December 30, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

Thanks bhushanB.

I was expecting appreciation from Ravi Sasthri and Manjirekar. They both sent Amith mishra back to Ranji . Its time they should be banned from writing, commenting and suggesting players. Last (lost) England tour and current SA tour clearly reflects where we are, how good we are in playing bouncy pacy tracks. Our players are totally unhappy and uncomfortable about swing pace and bounce. Where is the training, where are the practice matches. Many of us are still wasting our time in watching matches.

Posted by Un_Citoyen_Indien on (December 30, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

Ajinkya Rahane's fighting 96 in my opinion was WAAAY more valuable than Rohit Sharma's ODI 200 against Australia recently.

Rohit Sharma has scored fewer runs than Dale Steyn this series.....

Once again, India have lost a Test series overseas. India's overseas Test record in the last 10 games? 0-9

M.S. Dhoni should probably think of easing himself out of Test cricket before 2015. He has no prayer of being a proper Test match batsman.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:30 GMT)

good bye j kallis really i hav taken many of yr gaming tac tics as a batsmen n bowler. v gonna miss u . hope to c u in ipl....

Posted by PrasPunter on (December 30, 2013, 13:29 GMT)

By the end of Test #1, wondered whether we have seen the best of Steyn . Alas, normal service has resumed !!

Posted by ladycricket on (December 30, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

Haha, I love how some are trying too diminish SA's win because of the few poor decisions that went against India. It's not our fault India won't use DRS. Haters gonna hate, I guess.

Well done, boys! I am especially proud of this win. They copped such fierce criticism after the Wanderers draw. They then come to Durban, lose the toss and find themselves behind the game on day 1 playing on an unfavorable pitch. So to win the game with ten wickets in hand is stellar. We've been criticised for our slow scoring rate, told we play negative cricket, but we ended up with a magnificent series victory. Wonderful job and what a great farewell for King Kallis.

Thank you India for a great series. I wish it was longer, but what we got was some absolutely thrilling cricket. India have got some magnificent talent, it's scary to think how good they will be in 2 or 3 years time. I look forward to the next series against India. Cheers and good luck against NZ!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

South Africa win by 10 Wickets ... Woohooooo !!

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 13:25 GMT)

@Shaggy076 & Protears:

Steyn said to Rohit that he has done nothing in his career. What does the word career mean? Career spans everything, isn't it? Or are you saying career means only this series? What sort of comprehension is that?

Btw, Rohit had a 100 in his debut test & 2 in his first two. Not bad eh?

And if I am keyboard warrior, what about you? You are no different than me. The hollow logic of some guys here is really starkly visible on most occasions.

As for calling test the ultimate game, which I do not really deny, the attendance SA people have shown for this test & for the prev test tells us the reality. Even the fact that this would be the last test of Jacques Kallis & even on the final day, attendance has been poor.

Either SA people do not think this is the ultimate format OR they do not like this ultimate format OR they do not have much appreciation for Kallis for his contribution (whatever it may be).

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:24 GMT)

india lost because thy dnt have d fast bowler to take early wkts..and I request selectors to pls pls drop d 1 bowler(tallest) who dnt knw how to bowl seam up aftr plyng 6 years of int cric..i dnt want c him again...il happy with d battng efforts frm pujara kohli vijay rahane against quality bowlng.. ind jus need 2 quick who can take wkts to win d test overseas wel done sa..wel done jack and steyn

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

@ Jamshaid Raza I had no intent to demean PAK I was answering to the other person who seems incapable of appreciating India and trying to belittle us. And we also did win in SA last time we visited and as for the ODI series win in SA. My hearty congratulations, it indeed was a great victory for PAK young Guns. All I am demanding is a little perspective here. We accept that we don't have a good bowling attack but India has indeed punched above their weight as these are very young players. Most of them have not played a test outside India let alone against the no. 1 team and those who have played outside have only played couple of matches.

Posted by edgie on (December 30, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

To all those indian supports who are moaning about bad umpiring, that is why the DRS is there. U know, that thing your board is soooo reluctant to use? It would helped u. And don't matter who scored more runs than who, SA are no1, and india are no 2...

Posted by Gerry_the_Merry on (December 30, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

I think if India does the following 1) remove the clueless Dhawan or teach him to count beyond 20 overs 2) remove dhoni from the captaincy, make Kohli captain 3) remove Zaheer Khan and bring in Yadav 4) try to develop some good spinners instead of Ashwin who cannot bowl overseas or field anywhere - we have the makings of a good team. Vijay, Rahane, Kohli and Pujara are excellent material for the next several years. I cant comment about Rohit Sharma and Jadeja (todays batting was disappointing - does he really have triple centuries in Indian domestic cricket?)...

We badly need a change of captain. I cannot imagine what can be more furstrating than the sight of a deserving bowler like Shami bowling without lips when the ball is merely 50 overs old, in the first innings of a match. Dhoni probably thinks a test is 5 ODIs. Whatever, we need change. Cant have a captain who has the patent on losing overseas embarrasingly.

Posted by mars2009 on (December 30, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

There is flood of justificaiton, excuses, reasons about to come over here from my Indian friends. My dear neighbours expectations should be real. The more you expect, the more pain you will face.

Posted by jah-ir on (December 30, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

before starting the series everyone made cheap comments on inda like SA will win both the matches by an innings (including SA coach) nd nw 1st test SA struggled for draw now came up 2 final session.This young team shows better performance than other teams. when cmes to Dhoni he is the perfect captain for current Indian situation This is his first test series loss in SA as a captain tht even 0-1 And negative from Dhoni is he should become scaring batsman like Gilli,ABD he shouldnt sweep the ball bad umpiring 1st kallis lbw(given),steyn lbw(nt given) peterson lbw(nt given),kholi (given out) zak lbw (given) This shows worst umpiring ever.ppl comments 4 DRS then y this umpires r given salaries better take them and depend on DRS ....... WELL PLAYED INDIA AND SA TOO

Posted by Roleplay on (December 30, 2013, 13:18 GMT)

@israrak .I DONT WANNA WAISTE MY TIME.JUST CHECK 3-0 AT HOME BOTH SRI LANKA AND PAK .52 ALL OUT IN UAE.(REMEMBER).And please read my comment carefully i had mentioned that india had one bad year in tests in 2011 when we lost in eng and aus without winning one.Also we replied australia with 4-0 at home though which none of the teams you defend can dream of.Eng never ever won except in 2012 which they believe is triumph only during aus series at home slectors started choosing the right team.Beware now young guns are on the roll.And before mentioning our wash outs please check how many washouts your team had.We also won in eng in 2007.next year 5 tests eng will be thrashed and made a laughing stock.Just watch out.Stop talking about odi's in front of no.1 odi team.We lost to sa without any practise match .everyone saw when young guns spent a week in sa and what a change dale steyn also saw.no wickets for 69 overs but he did came back coz he is without doubt one of the greatest fast bowlers

Posted by parikshit_Ops on (December 30, 2013, 13:18 GMT)

Fantastic Batting From Rahane. Also Zak Tried his best. I had dearly hoped that Indian Team would win atleast one test this time but was disappointed. Anyway, I, as a fan would not stop supporting you' Team India'. Maybe sooner or later we would achieve our dream of defeating AUS/SA in their home soil. Now time for some tough decisions, hope our Cricket board has become more liberal/more modern as our populace. Rohit should be dropped at least from Team XI. Ashwin should be taken in the team along with Jadeja. Ashwin is quite better than Rohit/Jadeja in batting, particularly in overseas he would be successful. Jadeja ofcourse shou;d be taken as a spinner but must be told to prize his wicket more. We need to move beyond Ishant. Innumerable chances, hardly anything delivered.Try Mohit/Dhawal/Umesh/Aaron. Ofcourse Bhuvi is always there. Zak can be persisted with 2 or 3 test series until we find one reliable pace bowler and most importantly its time for Dhoni to go, atleast from captaincy

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:14 GMT)

As expected everybody now targeting Rohit Sharma. Entire year since Jan 2012 he is performing wonderfully in all conditions. Till Nov end he was amongst runs. He is one top 3 batsman who scores more than 1000 runs in one international year. But within no time everybody again started critising him. What a player can do better than this performance ? Name the batsman in the world who scored tons of runs in his very first overseas tour. Sachin took 16th inning to score first overseas 100, Dravidian took 8 innings, Vvs took 16th innings...even Pujara was the biggest flop in his first overseas attempt if we remember last SA tour. So why everybody is expecting Rohit to score runs right from the word go ? It is happening to everybody. We need to support all our youngsters, from this experience only we can make future Indian masters, not by critising all the times. Rohit made 333 runs in 4 tests with average of 66.66. I think this is not atall bad from any angel. All the best Rohit.

Posted by 200ondebut on (December 30, 2013, 13:14 GMT)

Dont think even SA can bottle this one.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

After hearing a lot of talk from many fans on Indian batting line up, here is my synopsis: Vijay - good opener, watchful, gets the shine off the ball and great skills Dharwan - only good in flat track conditions Purjaja - Absolute Gem of a batsman, will have a long and prosperous career. Kholi - quality, fast scoring batsmen with skills on all surfaces to show Sharma - clearly in there because he is mumbai boy. Not quite test material Rahane - quality, watchful batsman - one for the future. great talent.

I am not going to comment much about the fast bowling, I will leave that to the Indian fans. I think Ashwin and Jadaja are top quality but not in the same league as Herath and Ajmal but wish either one could play for SA.

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

What can you expect when you're playing with 2 bowlers. What absolute rubbish Zak and Ishant were bowling. No intention, no thought, no discipline, no pace, no movement, nothing. Zak is obviously still reeling from effects of last test. So much for his "fitness". these 2 were also responsible for us not winning the last test series in SA (& 0-8 results). I bet you if bhuvi and umesh had played we'd have won this series

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

SA knows how to play cricket in their own country so too is India but what is different between the two teams is that India know how to loose they cannot play in pressure situations. They say dhoni is mr cool that is a phony look, all indian cricketers are mentally weak. Dale Steyn was right to say Indian batsmen look afraid.

Posted by CricketChat on (December 30, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

Why can't Jadeja, who has 2/3 triple centuries in FC that greats like Gavaskar, Sachin, Dravid and a host of all time Ind great bats do not have, score a 5th of these in tests when it matters? That's why those scores mean nothing. Same story with Rohit and even Dhoni. Come IPL, these guys will slaughter hapless bowlers on flat piches. SA richly deserves the win.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:08 GMT)

We have lost yet another away series because of Dhoni, had he taken the new ball when it was due, Petersen and Steyn wouldn't have scored that many runs and we would hv had at least 100+ runs lead to play with for a draw.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 13:08 GMT)

Posted by PrasPunter on (December 30, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

@Ravi Krishnamurthy, so how does it feel when your own board's baseless reluctance towards DRS comes back to bite you ? You sowed it and this is the time to reap. Time to pull the head out of sand and look big ??

Couldn't have said it better myself. Bravo PrasPunter. Well said Sir.

Posted by piyo_thanda_jiyo_thanda on (December 30, 2013, 13:08 GMT)

Very disappointing bowling performance by India, letting SA score half a thousand runs for second innings in a row. I made a comment at the beginning of the tour that if India bowl even half-decently, they stand a very good chance. Can't expect batsmen to score 300 runs in ODIs and 450 runs in test matches every time. Overall, India's batting has been quite good. Dhawan is a class player and will be back in form soon. Nohit Sharma can't have the luxury of being allowed to play 100 test matches, like he got to play in ODIs, before getting into some sort of form. I get the feeling Nohit will be dropped. Time to say goodbye to Zaheer once and for all and bring in Umesh. Ojha can be tried at the test match level on a consistent basis. Sir Jadeja has shown some potential. Overall not a terrible tour. Good luck to this young team India. I am sure they will go from strength to strength. All the very best guys. We are with you always.

Posted by sssaaahhhiiilll on (December 30, 2013, 13:07 GMT)

India may did poorly in South Africa but they will definetley do well in New Zealand. They will learn from their mistakes from this series and do well in New Zealand. India did'nt do that bad afterall there were some good points as our No.6 batsman Rahane found his touch in the middle order and some good batting displayed from our No.3 and 4. However the bowling needs to improve that they don't leak runs espically when the tailenders are batting and also our openers (Dhawan & Vijay) need to find their touch by making big partnerships and keep less pressure on the middle order. I hope the next series against New Zealand will be a lot of different and India will show their hardwork and determination. Can't wait for the next series. :)

Posted by Arrow011 on (December 30, 2013, 13:07 GMT)

I would say India needs no mercy, they were the ones who always are against DRS, now they have no right to be cry babies. Either accept it or just shut up even if there is a dubious decision.

Dhoni has no right to continue as a test captain, he makes too many elementary mistakes, can you imagine South Africa going with 2 spinners & India 1? They are relying on Jadeja as if he is a Kumble, Murli or Warne. Dhoni did not take new ball for 145 overs in 1st test, this is to let Jadeja bowl, the lone spinner & for the 3 pacemen in the team he delayed the new ball. This shows he has more confidence in 1 spinner than all 3 pacemen, then why play them at all? He could have brought in Ashwin & even Ojha in place of 2 pacemen. Logically he should always play 2 spinners irrespective of the pitch as Indians are better bowling spin than pace. Now his captaincy record looks even worse after 8-0 loss in Eng & Aus. Ashwin should be made captain immediately for tests & Dhoni as keeper.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:07 GMT)

Courtney Walsh 500th test wicket and zaheer khan 300th test wicket both inside edge of Kallis and resulted in lbw decisions

Posted by fguy on (December 30, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

what nonsense. first day when IND were in great position the umps called off play in better light than this. on 4th evening Ind were in a precarious position and they continued in much worse light. and if look at these stats http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-india-2013-14/content/story/703689.html past matches stats shows day 1 & 3 are by far best for batting & day 2, 4 & 5 are tough. so SA could make hay on the best days while we had to face the worst days. that bad light session on 1st day cost us BIG TIME. we could've taken full toll of weary bowlers with 2 batsmen set at crease. we could've been 270/3 at worst & then had some more time to bowl at SA on the spiciest day (2nd day)

Posted by Shazli on (December 30, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

f you had expectations greater than how India has performed in this test series,after seeing what happened in the ODI series and our last 2 away tours from sub-continent, then you must be the absolute optimist."

Posted by heathrf1974 on (December 30, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

Although India will lose this test they have put in a fine fight against the number 1 team at home. Rahane should hold his head high. Shame for SA that Kallis is retiring, he will be missed.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:06 GMT)

india should agree with drs.

Posted by latecut_04 on (December 30, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

@Asamb--please have some perspective.Did you expect Murli Vijay to bat with the grit and patience he has displayed throughout.(except yesterday.)Only Dhawan and Rohit have been disappointing and Rohit needs to be given another series.Indian batting(top and middle order)have been quite good overall and there is a lolt of promise out there.Facing Steynand Co is the ultimate test and look at the runs scored by Pujaras,Kohlis and Rahanes.They are no T20 babies and that DEFINITELY is a positive.Please publish

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

My prediction is that South Africa wins this and the series #tongue in cheek

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

Dhoni, Ishant and Zaheer are the most mediocre "test" players i have ever watched played the game of cricket.

The Irony is, when Rahane and Dhoni were playing, Rahane was showing superb class and solid defense, Dhoni goes to Rahane from other hand give him tips to play steyn where he himself was looking awful against steyn and Rahane was playing him so beautifully.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (December 30, 2013, 12:32 GMT) @TommytuckerSaffa: The DRS system is FLAWED. Improve the umpiring or replace them with robots, who will at least be more competent.

@ Big_Poppa_94 You know they once said the earth was flat and we can never fly into space...

I know DRS in not 100% accurate but its a stepping stone towards getting more right decisions, more of the time. It was used in the SA vs Aus series and so many bad decisions were reversed. I am a huge supporter of using technology and bettering it while in production.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

From a SA and Test Cricket fanatic i have this to say.....THANK YOU INDIA FOR AN AWESOME SERIES. The team that India brought along was an unknown and expected to struggle. However they have shown tremendous fight. Was touching seeing Graeme Smith and other SA players talking tobthe young guys when they walked off the field. It showed the respect they have for this new breed Indian team. They will leave South Africa with great confidence and belief in their ability. If wise they will have learnt on how to handle pressure abroad and Captaincy. SA took some slack on how they dealt with the series, but once again won it. Always put yourself in a position notbto lose the match as to get into the oppositions heads. New India team is now my 2nd favourite test team.

Posted by Greatestdravid on (December 30, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

Kohli got a tough one. Unlucky and accepted. But decisions do go wrong in matches. They did and they will continue to go on. More so for us as we avoid the DRS. But application from Rohit & Jadeja needs to be questioned too. Overall a good series. Enjoyable test cricket for a fan.

At least here we are getting 5 day tests. Just disappointed at the crwod turnout. Specially for the kallis Ton!!!

Posted by tao585 on (December 30, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

It is amazing to read all concocted excuses given by Indian fans. Accept that you have been outplayed. It would be better for future overseas matches.

Posted by fairfan70 on (December 30, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

I have to say, Dhoni is the reason India lost this series. Timid, safety first captaincy and no contribution with bat. He played with 4 bowlers in each test. Ashwin contributed nothing in the first test which fully tired out the three Indian seamers. And Dhoni played same 3 seamers again without the support of a fourth seamer in the second test. Also, three umpiring decisions did make it easy for SA in this match.

Posted by Diaz54 on (December 30, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

Send Kallis to bat first!! Want to see him whites for last time. Well done Kallis you are my favourite player of all time. Riaz from Pakistan

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

Philander is undoubtedly the best fast bowler in the world! He has taken more wickets than stern since making the team!

Posted by VinodGupte on (December 30, 2013, 12:59 GMT)

nohit sharma, shikhar dhawan and ZK must not be picked for the NZ tour. pick manoj tiwary or badrinath and gambhir. replace ZK with dhawal kulkarni who was only a passenger on the last NZ tour. it is unfortunate that IND is stuck with a mediocre dhoni as a WK/Captain. DK is likely resist more overseas than dhoni. but what can one do about it? IND has to carry this non-performer in tests wherever they travel.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 30, 2013, 12:56 GMT)

It's time we replaced Dhoni in TESTS. Gambhir should come in and take charge. Rohit dropped an important catch in the first test and has been useless with the bat, he and Dhawan need to be replaced. Gambhir has the footwork and needs to play in the middle. We need a wicketkeeper who can bat. Kholi can be the vice. Apart from Shami and Jadeja the bowlers need replacing. Wholesome changes is the solution for foreign tours. Pujara, Vijay, Kohli and Rahane have been outstanding. A-team trials for Manpreet Juneja, Kiwonjit Singh, KL Rahul and Manoj Tiwari.

Posted by israrak on (December 30, 2013, 12:56 GMT)

@ Roleplay ... I think ur living in another world ... pak n srl even whitewashed at their home ??? when this happened ??? n what about ur team 8-0 overseas defeat now it will be 9-0 ... also beaten by End at your own home ... n pak whitewashed end last yr ...n for ur kind information pak has drawn series in SA before and drew series with Aus in Eng 2010 where conditions are more tough ... In 2003 series india was lucky as there were no mgrath and shane warne at tht time .... Pak is the only the Asian team who has won odi series in Sa ... so please think before you comment on other teams ...

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:56 GMT)

well well india going to loose this test here in sa .....I think the most important thing is selection has not been done as per the requirements. and also Indian nust be think how to bowl in these condition.

Posted by Arrow011 on (December 30, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

The way Dhoni is persisting with 2 medium pace bowlers in Zaheer & Ishant it is going to be a problem for long time to come. Ishant will be the first pace bowler to complete 100 tests with least number of wickets, LOL. He is going for a reverse world record, thanks to Dhoni. No team would have selected a bowler who has taken 149 wickets in 52 tests at around 38 per wicket. Some people say Kallis can command a place in South African team just as a bowler 292 wickets in 165 tests, if that is true then Ishant is way better than Kallis.

This test is a gift from Dhoni to South Africa, he squandered this test right from team selection. Commentators are unnecessarily glorifying India, they do not deserve anything in the 2nd test & also in 1st test the last day was full of South Africa. It was a virtual victory for South Africa even then.

1. Ashwin commanded a place being the world no. 1 allrounder, Rohit should have been rested. 2. 2 Spinners are a must for India 3. Dhoni should bat @6

Posted by PrasPunter on (December 30, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

@Ravi Krishnamurthy, so how does it feel when your own board's baseless reluctance towards DRS comes back to bite you ? You sowed it and this is the time to reap. Time to pull the head out of sand and look big ??

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 30, 2013, 12:53 GMT)

@rags57 - Dhoni needs replacing otherwise we always going to go down the same path. Dhawan and Rohit need to be taken out. Gambhir (at least he has footwork) can take charge and play from the middle. Rahane needs to open with Vijay. The bowlers need replacing apart from Shami and Jadeja.

Posted by jah-ir on (December 30, 2013, 12:53 GMT)

@navi kamboj then zaheer khan has more runs than amla in this series

Posted by momer79 on (December 30, 2013, 12:52 GMT)

What a bowling performance from SA bowlers on this kind of pitch which favours indian batsmen. Well done!

This is a time for india to look for really good pace bowlers if they want to compete with good teams in WC2015.

Again well played SA. You are really a no.1 team in the world.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:47 GMT)

dhoni is not a test cricket player. ..drop him ...hand over the test captaincy to virat...

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 12:46 GMT)

Indian team for tests here had batsmen like Dhawan, Murali, Pujara, Kohli, Rohit, Rahane. Other were not expected to do much anyways. Indian bowling was not supposed to pose any serious threat to SA anyways.

Before the series started, Greatest_Game said he couldn't wait to see another 50 all out score by India. Before the series started, India were said to be full of FTB who were walking wickets to bowlers like Steyn, Morkel & Philander.

No Indian fan ever claimed that India would win here, did we? I had myself commented that a 0-1 score would be a relief.

When the series started, India dominated the 1st test for 4 days & were 2.5 wickets away from winning it on day 5. Kallis wrong lbw actually helped SA there.

Except Dhawan/Rohit, others from the above list have got runs, in fact most got more than most SA batsmen.

4 of those 6 proved they can get runs anywhere. India proved that with a little bit of practice, they are a proper match for SA & need just one good bowler.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:45 GMT)

Without DRS it happens. If Kallis was not given out in first test 458 might not been enough for draw.....

Posted by FairCricket_indinaus on (December 30, 2013, 12:45 GMT)

Bad umpiring has cost india dearly. First Peterson not given, then kohli given out and now zaheer given out.....what a shame....kohli wud have still been out there with rahane and india wud have had a lead of 150 by now...

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (December 30, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

I would stick with Dhawan and Rohit...simply because they have played less than 10 test matches each. But, if I were an Indian selector, I would sack Dhoni, Ishant, Zaheer right away. It's anybody's guess how Dhoni would fare on seaming wickets in NZ and then in England and Australia. Time to get Dinesh Kartik the gloves and the bat. Dhoni is a pretty lame WK when compared to Haddin and ABDV. No mobility behind the stumps. Only collects balls within 2 feet of him...compared to ABDV who covers probably 2-3 metres on either side and probably a metre and a half up in the air!!

Posted by eilsaky on (December 30, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

Blunders by Dhoni and his incompetence as a batsman and wicketkeeper costing India. Wrong tactics costing India dear. I know the comment would not be published as it is against the Srinivasan boy Dhoni. Ashwin and Dhoni should play ODIs and T20s only. Not fit for tests.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:41 GMT)

To all the Sri Lankan fans whose team has been called club level for so long by a few less than courteous Indians,drinks are on me. To all the other Indian fans,hard luck.Hope you come back strongly next time.Well played SA!!!

Posted by Rags57 on (December 30, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

The difference between the two sides is actually what the tail did in batting - in fact even going one step further it is what the Indian tail did not do in the fist innings that has made a difference to the match outcome. From 320 for 5 India ended up with 334 - in the second innings it was 104 for 5 to 233 - if only the tail added another 70 to 80 runs in the first innings India would have ended up drawing the match at the very least. Zaheer showed great application in the second innings - why was it missing in the first innings? Even Dhoni needs to step up his contribution if India is to make a difference overseas. Hope the lessons are learnt for the tours to NZ and England.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

It's part of the game !! Could have happened to SA as well (bad umpiring).

Posted by Perceptive on (December 30, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

Well done Rahane, shows what a bit of old fashioned application can do.

A lot of positives here, regretful to see some of the comments on here from both sets of fans. Questioning Steyn is plain idiotic, whilst 'Tommytjecker saffa' lauding a 1-0 series victory at home on the final day as though it is some sort of emphatic triumph is equally stupid. The 5 day format suits SA - apply a bit of pressure in a tournament context and - well we all know about that don't we.

Moving forward, India need to replace I Sharma and bring in Yadav. I think Zak as a first change can still play a part and pass on experience to Shami/Yadav/Kumar. I hat to say it but Dhoni may need to go. His batting is irresponsible and sets a terrible example. Had he stuck it out with Rahane in ODI fashion we could have got the draw. Jadeja will learn, and Rohit needs one more chance as no point going backwards, although the idea of Sehwag at 6 excties me.

The team that wanted it more won, so fair play.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

I wonder whose fault it is that DRS is not being used in this series.The BCCI has always insisted that DRS is not perfect well human umpires are not perfect either..

Posted by Roleplay on (December 30, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

India had only one bad year in 2011 in tests (though odi champions trophy should compensate that and so called no.1 team will accept that chokers hurt much)but look at england whitewashed recently,I wont even say pak and sri lanka coz they are whitewashed even in thier home series.India aways challenges no.1 teams (earlier australia and now south africa).Down under in 2003 india were the favourites not for steve waugh's gritty farewell ton and in 2007 oz series everyone knows how aus managed to win with farce decisions(11 of them in sydney).last 3 test series between india and sa were drawn.already we have whitewashed oz now its turn of the poms the ways their team is playing kohli and co will eat them for dinner.gone are the days when underperforming seniors took indian team for granted.Watch out guys.India just needs one fast bowler to win all over the world.How many teams have been humiliated in sa but young guns can have their head held high.

Posted by Testcricketistop on (December 30, 2013, 12:37 GMT)

@ravi, so SA should not be proud of a win because umpires made mistakes?

It is swings and rounabouts mate, India decided they won't be using the DRS.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

Dale steyn has more run in this series than rohit sharma .. Haha .. Poor NOHIT SHARMA .. U must retire from test cricket for the sake of our country

Posted by heartbreakerz on (December 30, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

same old story for india...their bowlers are not good enough to take 20 wkts outside india, no other team would have conceded 450 on that pitch in jo'burg...so no matter how many runs they score, they have no hope of winning with these bowlers.

Those indians complaining about umpiring decisions need to remember that they have no right to do so bcoz they are the only ones who have been opposing the tool to eliminate those mistakes.

Posted by jagansanthanam on (December 30, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

It may not be a bad idea to rest/drop Dhoni for the NZ series and pick Dinesh Karthik either as a batsman / WK that can replace both Dhoni & Rohit or give Saha an opportunity to play as a specialist keeper and give Rohit one more chance. Playing Dinesh Karthik in place of Dhoni & Rohit will give us a chance to play an extra bowler. It is like AB's position in SA that gives them an opportunity to bat deep. Since our bowling is weaker than our batting, having an extra bowler will be a good option to have

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

Fijicricket on (December 30, 2013, 12:19 GMT) Add 183 runs made after bad LBW decisions plus Kohli's at least his 50 plus Zaheers 5 and SA would have been chasing 296 in 50 overs! Kohli certainly not out but not sure you could bank 50 for him though he's been playing well. Was Zaheer's LBW controversial? remember in the 1st test Kallis also given out LBW after big bat pad when he was batting well, but for that SA would probably have won that match. That said India have played very well and if they can find a few better fast bowlers will challenge any side in any conditions. Good comparison will be to see how SA fare v Australia next year although absence of Kallis will make that comparison less valid.

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (December 30, 2013, 12:36 GMT)

I noticed how in the 1st Test match, South Africa used the HEAVY ROLLER in the 2nd innings, which literally flattened out the pitch. That's why South Africa got so close to that mammoth target.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 12:35 GMT)

Well, I did not need the Hawk eye to tell me that ball definitely missed the stumps a long way.. that Zaheer was adjudged LBW.

If at all he stood his stance with his legs stretched, instead of standing up immediately, the umpire would have taken into consideration how forward he has been...

But quite surprised none of those renowned commentators did not pick it up until the Hawk eye replay was shown....

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

The only reason why India has been losing overseas Tests is because we cannot take 20 wickets. That is the only way you will win any match or series.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

Congrats Pujara and Rahane for being selected into the IND ODI team.

Long time coming... but better late than never...

Good luck!!!

IND surely needs your skills in the ODI format, at least in these away tours..

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

@yousufahmed..Seems like you cant digest that india is loosing thats why you are commenting on other teams (Lowest Scores) so here you can see india's Lowest scores and 2 lowest scores in INDIA. So if you are talking about history then india have 9th lowest score in Test history..so dont talk about pakistan because pakistan won 1 test match against Southafrica.and won One day series in southafrica with (YOUNGSTERS). so you please be humble..its southafrica vs india and india is loosing..accept it and enjoy cricket. well Played Southafrica and i must say rahane is the next wall for india..He play like Dravid, Lovely Inngs.

India 42 vs england Lords

India 58 vs australia Brisbane

India 66 vs england Leeds

India 75 vs Westendies (DELHI)

India 76 vs Southafrica (AHMEDABAD)

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (December 30, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa: The DRS system is FLAWED. Improve the umpiring or replace them with robots, who will at least be more competent.

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (December 30, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

Terrible umpiring. India has paid for not using DRS yet again. South Africa will be happy with that...surely those 4 terrible decisions against India has handed the match to the Saffas on a platter.

Posted by Roleplay on (December 30, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

Kohli getting out with a dreadful decision .Imagine same happened to kallis where they would have been.However this game of cricket is not about if and buts .Irrespective of the result young indian team whose most of the players have not even completed ten tests challenged no.1 team on their own backyard(though cullinan said smith never ever captained like no.1 team).there will be some pots calling the keetle black but a true cricket fan would appreciate indian teams performance.Imagine what happened to sa without dale steyn as they looked toothless recently and if their core of the team is replaced with young ones and asked to perform in india i can bet they will be thrashed like we did to west indians.Oh wait a second they will still be thrashed within three days coz dust bowls will be waiting to welcome them.Manjarekar and cullinan did accepted that only australians played to win and this team sa i dare say did unvieled their cowardliness .(1st day took off)

Posted by zzby on (December 30, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

Bad performence plus lack of support for DRS costed india another away series....

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (December 30, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

Looking forward to Australia's tour of South Africa. A team that can actually take 20 South African wickets with frightening ease.

Posted by ssenthil on (December 30, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

SA were winning with a 12th man in Steve Davis. 3 Absolute howlers 1 to save Robin Pitersen, 2nd to Kohli to give out and then to give LBW to Zaheer Khan. I think without this blunders India may have managed to draw the match and series. But the real blunder is from Dhoni, who underperformed for long in overseas tours. He should be sacked from the Test team immediately and hand over it to either Virat Kohli or Pujara but as long as Srini is there, I doubt any one have the backbone to sack the perennial under performer Dhoni. I would like to see Dhawan, Rohit Sharma, Dhoni and Ishant Sharma being dropped for the next tour of NZ.

Some may ask why don't BCCI get DRS but no one forgot England series were some of good original decisions were overturned through DRS.

Posted by Capricorn60 on (December 30, 2013, 12:29 GMT)

Although we are going to lose handsomely with SA needing only 58 to win, there are quite a few positives to come from this series like the excellent batting of Pujara, Rahane, Kohli & Vijay - dispelling the myth our batsmen are just 'flat track bullies'! Fielding has been fairly good too. However our innocuous medium-pace bowling has been found out to be hapless as expected & Yadav needs to be given a chance in NZ - even if he leaks a few runs at the beginning but he'll learn to tighten up with experience. For overseas tests, we need only one frontline spinner - be it Ashwin or Jaddu - & we could really do with a seam bowling all-rounder, like perhaps Rishi Dhawan as some fans have suggested.

Posted by yashonfire on (December 30, 2013, 12:28 GMT)

This young Indian team should be proud of the way they have performed against the number one team in their own backyard. Not many have expected for these tests to last till the fourth day. Had they played both Jadeja and Aswin, they could have easily won the first test and would have had more than a fighting chance in this test as well. While Jadeja was applying pressure, runs were leaking from other end and on this pitch, I would back Aswin to get a couple of wickets as well. If he got any wickets when SA were 3 down, they would have got bowled out under 300. Time for India to think about dropping Ishant and Rohit/Vijay as Rahane can open too. Rishi Dhawan should come in place for Ishant(till Zaheer's career is finished) and along with the 2 spinners who can bat, he can make up for the loss of one batsman. It gives ample variety to the attack and adequate rest for the pacers. On a green top, always Umesh Yadav can get into the shoes of a spinner. Time to put team before individuals.

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

@jjradha

Good one....the best satire I've come across this series...

Future captain Rohit scored a classic 25 and Vijay failed again. MSD scored only 15 sack MSD and make Rohit as captain

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (December 30, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

How good is Steyn? Take a bow .Cleary the 2nd hottest pacer around after Mitch. Good as likes of P'lander/Morne and Harris/Sidds are they are some way below both in quality. Cant wait for tough contest bet. 2 best pace attacks short while.

Posted by tao585 on (December 30, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

It is true that Pakistani team was bundled out for 50, but they also did win a match against South Africa and when SA board wanted some one to fill in the void created by opponent's haughty board they complied and agreed for a One Day series. Sportmanship.

Be Humble.

Posted by Kiyaora on (December 30, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

If only Dhoni & Jadeja had shown some resilience like Zaheer, we could have posted a bigger score, and what a knock from Rahane under the circumstance, should be promoted on the batting order.

Posted by sanman12 on (December 30, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

Harmony111. Guess what Steyn took 9 in the match. Second fastest to 350 wickets. I think u need your facts straight. He is already a legend. !0 wickets in a 2 match series in spite of a poor first test. Imgine if he had fired in the first test. If he is so toothless why cant your batsman play him here. Also all 200 plus runs in ODI s were scored in India on dead wickets. That does not make you a good batsman. That is now being exposed on livlier wickets although I would go as far as to say the wickets have sporty and very fair here in South Africa. Just the Indian batsman are barring a few are not up to scratch outside their home grounds. The bowlers even more so. ANywhere outside the subcontinent they get Hammered. England Australia and now here in SA. Just to recount for you what Steyn did to India in their last ODI match ion world cup. MOM figures of 5 for 50 odd after being hammered early on. Again Steyn is now a legend.

Posted by S.Seshachalam on (December 30, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

No point blaming Dhoni the batsman and also the other batsman. The root problem is with our bowling. We need to have 2 quicks and an all rounder ( like Kallis) who should be able to take 20 wickets. They can be supported by Ashwin and Jadeja in the spin department. Of course Jadeja needs to work on his batting very seriously. Immediate action. Sack Zak & Ishant. or Zak can retire and Ishant can take a two year break from cricket!!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

India played well but had no answers against steyn and co. They surely did better than many other teams in SA but a loss is a loss.

Some positives though are Kohli, Pujara, Rahane . and this young lot did very well. but 1 can say that bowling has let india down. they should be more disappointed to have a draw in 1st test when they were so close to winning it and were on top for almost 4 days. But it was the bowling which gave them that edge in the 1st place. couldnt seal it off.

In the end 1st test's result remained 50-50 for them. Disappointed as they were on top for 4 days. But one can say lucky as SA didnt push for win to make it 2-0.

SA played like a top team. thats why they are no 1. seen it vs AUS, seen it vs Pak, vs Eng, whenever they were down, they came back strongly. and some 1 stood for them.

will be disappointed to not push for win and make it 2-0. but same time will be happy to come out of 1st test as they were totally down.

Good cricket.

Posted by aussie1993 on (December 30, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

@yousf at least pakistan won odi series in sa and also drew the test series against sa in uae but india were destroyed in odi series and now lost the test series 1-0 could hve been 2-0

Posted by bhushanB on (December 30, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

Congrats Pujara and Rahane for being selected into the IND ODI team.

Long time coming... but better late than never...

Good luck!!!

IND surely needs your skills in the ODI format, at least in these away tours..

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

Another poor performance of overrated indian batsmen I think they must opt to play in their homeland only

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

Horrible umpiring..SA will not be proud of this win. Bad judgment from Umpires went against Indian batsmen at very crucial times.

Well done Rahane. Its pity you couldn't complete very well deserved hundred.

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 30, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

Add 183 runs made after bad LBW decisions plus Kohli's at least his 50 plus Zaheers 5 and SA would have been chasing 296 in 50 overs! Any way congrats SA for a questionable win!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

bad luck for rahane and india

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

morefully expected frm sa. well done guys.

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (December 30, 2013, 12:16 GMT)

@Humble Khan: All the Indian batsman except Dhawan (first overseas tour), Jadeja (only played one match), Rohit (first overseas tour) and Dhoni (never was good overseas) have SCORED runs.

Kohi - 119, 96, 46, 11 (last score wasn't out) Pujara - 25, 153, 70, 32 Vijay - 6, 39 (blunted the new ball), 97, 6 Rahane - 47, 15, 51, 96

Next time get your knowledge up.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:16 GMT)

Test match convincingly goes to South Africa... i think SA should have won the 1st test but they decided to draw so that was a good sign for India... but i would say that EVEN India could also win 1st Test.. because they set the gigantic total of 450for Proteas..... which is defendable for India.. but they can't control AB & Faf......

Posted by Delmeister on (December 30, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

How brilliant has Steyn and Kallis been ... Steyn destroys India's batting again, and Kallis grafts a superb ton in difficult conditions. Great players proving their worth, and SA proving yet again they are genuine number ones of Test cricket. Fantastic performance.

Posted by Naresh28 on (December 30, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

It's time we replaced Dhoni in TESTS. Gambhir should come in and take charge. Rohit dropped an important catch in the first test and has been useless with the bat, he and Dhawan need to be replaced. Gambhir has the footwork and needs to play in the middle. We need a wicketkeeper who can bat. Kholi can be the vice. Apart from Shami and Jadeja the bowlers need replacing. Wholesome changes is the solution for foreign tours. Pujara, Vijay, Kohli and Rahane have been outstanding. A-team trials for Manpreet Juneja, Kiwonjit Singh, KL Rahul and Manoj Tiwari.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

After this innings, Rahane should be made to bat at 5. Scored consistently on this tour under pressure and in difficult conditions. And even shut his mouth and concentrated on batting unlike Sharma who was having a go at Steyn despite having been exposed on this tour. Serious question marks on Rohit Sharma's tempermant.!?????

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

Harmony111,devan sharma and some others have slated SA so much here over the past week that i wonder what is next for them.. I am from the West Indies(Caribbean) and i just knew Sharma would struggle in SA.Scoring 2 hundreds on flat wickets against a West Indies bowling attack of today is nothing to boast about.Their new ball bowler bowls at 120k.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

steyn gun rocckz..

Posted by sundersingh on (December 30, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

I think dhoni will quit test cricket...(As He said last year of " I will have to make decision at the end of 2013 on any one of the format" MSD)

Posted by Fijicricket on (December 30, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

Zafar Saleem on (December 30, 2013, 11:37 GMT) Easy men of the match - umpires! And to present the award- Steve Bucknor!

Posted by Cric_fever_forever on (December 30, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

mr mzm149 no South Africa winning at there Home Grounds Isnt uPSETTING. buT South Africa Winning at Durban that too against asain team is upset for me just check there record at durban for last 5 or 6 years or maybe 10 years. im happy for them as nuetral fan.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:12 GMT)

Thank You Almight India for not wanting to use DRS.

Posted by Haz95 on (December 30, 2013, 12:10 GMT)

Love for Rahane from Pakistan....He is underrated and he's a good batsmen without any arrogance either.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 11:28 GMT) Imagine these 4 wrong decisions(Alviro's stumping, Robin peterson LBW, Kohli's catch and zaheer's LBW) going against SA. Hell would have broken.

@Yousufahmed1 Its quite easy to imagine they wouldn't have been out if your Board wasnt so stubborn about not using DRS and moving into the 21st century.

Heading for 1-0 Defeat in Test and almost a whitewash in the ODIs. Good luck in Australia !!

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 12:06 GMT)

@ Humble Khan India has batted better than most teams here in SA. I gues you have forgotten that your team was bundled out for less than 50 in SA. So please be humble Mr. Humble Khan.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:04 GMT)

steyn joint second fastest to 350 wickets. ..... lets not hate

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 12:04 GMT)

@IronCobra sack dhoni??cnt believe d extent of overreaction...and indeed we shud sack d others u mentioned...srsly??sure and den u shud lead d indian cricket test team overseas...cuz clearly u will make a better wicketkeeper batsman as well as a captain...

Posted by jjradha on (December 30, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

Future captain Rohit scored a classic 25 and Vijay failed again. MSD scored only 15 sack MSD and make Rohit as captain

Posted by sundersingh on (December 30, 2013, 11:59 GMT)

definitely MOM of the match KALLIS he is the one who grinded Indian bowling and allowed petersen to score and bowl.. with out that effect petersen will be 0 for 120

Posted by aussie1993 on (December 30, 2013, 11:59 GMT)

@steyn is the fastest seam bowler to 350 test wickets and 2nd overall besides great muttiah muralidaran and still indian arrogant fans will say that he needs break to get wickets blah blah

Posted by Shaggy076 on (December 30, 2013, 11:57 GMT)

Harmony111; You know what is funny? A hack a keyboard warrior such as yourself who has achieved nothing sledging Steyn. He has achieved plenty. renowned as the best test bowler in the world leading the attack of the number one test nation. We are currently playing a game of test cricket so what does ICC trophies have to do withtthat. He is the best bowler in the ultimate game and you say he has achieved nothing.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 11:51 GMT)

India can never win against south Africa. not even in India. india are scared to give south Africa a four test series , cause south Africa would easily win.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 11:49 GMT)

@harmony111, Steyn told Rohit he has more runs than him in the series, which he does, thought that was pretty funny and it flustered him up. As for Rohit's 200 in a ODI, I really don't think it matters much in the context of this test match but whatever.

PS: Steyn has 8 thus far on a dead wicket, oh well.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

hope at least now dhoni will stop denying rahane a place in the test side... such a tough bloke and he s played just 3 tests and a handful of ODIs and T20s... if only he had been given half the number of chances as rohit I bet he would have been one of the mainstays of the team in all formats along with kohli... rohit is talented but talent without the ability to use it is a waste.. when guys like vinod kambli and badrinath have been dumped by India without due respect for their skills I dont see any reason why rohit should be accorded royal treatment.... also please drop ishant and bring in umesh...try to mould pacers with genuine pace like umesh and aaron else we will never take 20 wickets in an abroad test

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Press will raise questions over Dhoni's place in the side especially considering his keeping is not exceptional. NZ tour will be defining for Dhoni. Has to make some runs outside sub-continent. Rest of the batting looks alright. Dhoni and the bowlers have a lot to answer !!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

Guess man of the match. Kallis or Peterson?

Posted by Hash_Tag on (December 30, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

So much for those foolish people who said that Kallis was not a great player and that South Africa were playing for a draw. What utter rubbish. Kallis has now delivered South Africa a match winning knock and it is India, not South Africa, who are playing for a draw. I cannot see how we can get out of this now with 8 down. Please let us have some sanity when we make comments. We were very lucky to avoid defeat in the first test, and now, despite so much big talk by some on here, we are going to go down to yet another overseas defeat. Well done Kallis - you have stopped us once again. A great player - well done, you will be missed.

Posted by DhairyBoghani on (December 30, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

I want to ask them a question who are questioning on Dhoni's captaincy Have you any option who have a permanent place in team and have abilities to captain this young side.I believe he is not great at bat overseas but we havn't any option to replace him as WK or Caption. read my points & then tell...

If batsman throws his wicket(likes of sehvag, Dhavan or Jadeja) or If bowlers bowl bad line continusly or not having wicket taking abilities, What can he do? He can just inspire them & he does that very well as we can listen some of those words on TV.

It was his calmness to save first test. He rested Shaming & Ishant early at tea so they can prevent SA to win in last hour.

Posted by mzm149 on (December 30, 2013, 11:32 GMT)

@Cric_fever_forever: South African win at their home ground is upset for you. You got to be kidding.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 11:32 GMT)

A Number 1 side means Number 1 in every aspect...which unfortunately India is certainly not. Indian batting line up is very good again unfortunately on Subcontinent pitches only...that's it... where as SA have the best pace attack and a very good batting line up and excellent fielders... SA batsmen score Subcontinent, Middle east and their own home country... They take wickets on every soil... BCCI has nothing to do with it...and nothing wrong with the captaincy as well... Most of the cricket played by India is in India...that explains it all

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (December 30, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

Strange are the quirks of game -test ckt.Was'nt Kingsmead suppo. to be with Perth among fast/bounciest pitches in world? Exp. all quicks -OK maybe not Ind's- to be picking bagful. Instead 2 mediocre L/arm spinners doing damage.P'sen vs Ind- supp. 'best'.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

I was ROTFL when Steyn said to Rohit that "You have done nothing in your career".

Here is a bowler who is perhaps the only one in the history of the game who has seen batsmen scoring 200 in ODI & 300 in Tests. I think this is the ultimate proof of the way how batsmen have torn him apart. For a bowler supposed to be among the greats, this is humiliating.

Here is a bowler who may be great but is yet to help his team win a tournament of note.

Here is a bowler who talked of scarring the Indian batsmen but was himself seen limping away when India rendered him toothless. So ironical.

And this bowler is jibing at a batsman who is playing his 4th test ^ saying he has done nothing in his career? What career does one expect in 4 tests? Steyn being poor in arithmetic? How large is the number 4?

And this batsman happens to have a 200 in ODIs, only the 3rd one ever. Maybe Steyn should first win some ICC trophy for SA or get a 8-9 wicket haul before talking like this.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (December 30, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

Another umpiring decision goes against team India. Tell me, how long until we attitudes change from the BCCI before we can see technology being used in matches when India plays. Both these decisions would have been easily reversed, providing a different outcome of the game. 80% technology accuracy is better than 100% human error.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Imagine these 4 wrong decisions(Alviro's stumping, Robin peterson LBW, Kohli's catch and zaheer's LBW) going against SA. Hell would have broken.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Another bad decision Zaheer was not out. It was missing. I hope India agrees with DRS after this series.

Posted by Harmony111 on (December 30, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

I was ROTFL when Steyn said to Rohit that "You have done nothing in your career".

Here is a bowler who is perhaps the only one in the history of the game who has seen batsmen scoring 200 in ODI & 300 in Tests. I think this is the ultimate proof of the way how batsmen have torn him apart. For a bowler supposed to be among the greats, this is humiliating.

Here is a bowler who may be great but is yet to help his team win a tournament of note.

Here is a bowler who talked of scarring the Indian batsmen but was himself seen limping away when India rendered him toothless. So ironical.

And this bowler is jibing at a batsman who is playing his 4th test ^ saying he has done nothing in his career? What career does one expect in 4 tests? Steyn being poor in arithmetic? How large is the number 4?

And this batsman happens to have a 200 in ODIs, only the 3rd one ever. Maybe Steyn should first win some ICC trophy for SA or get a 8-9 wicket haul before talking like this.

Posted by Bokesh on (December 30, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

Does any body remembers my comment on the first day M.Vijay batting on 93 or so, with absolute brown turf,and steyn & co. making no dent.Come the showers in the evening, and M.Vijay getting out on 97.I said if he and Pujara see off the first hour I would agree that Vijay has really matured as a great batsman.I was sure he could not and he didn't. It rained yesterday also and the result is in front of you. Unless and until they master the art of facing the artillery kind of SA has,they would keep on losing overseas or outside subcontinent. That's why likes of Sachin/ Rahul are special. It is one thing to score fastest century on debut in subcontinent and facing such bowlers on their tracks is different.

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (December 30, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

@Nandan Nadkarni: Indian bowlers were able to bowl out South Africa actually. Flat track bullies? Kohli, Pujara, Rahane and even Vijay ALL scored runs. Kohli and Pujara proved why they're the future. Whilst Rahane and Vijay showed guts, determination and technique to survive overseas conditions. Do not forget that it is STILL Dhawan and Rohit's FIRST series played overseas. You were expecting them to be Bradman-esque weren't you? Barring Shami, Zak and Ishant MUST be dropped and replaced with Yadav and Aaron. Jadeja is poor at batting, but is a more able spinner in overseas conditions than Ashwin. He also has more control. Ojha should still play instead.

Get your knowledge up and stop putting down a relatively young Indian team. If you think you're so goo then why don't you play up against Steyn, Morkel and Philander.

Posted by Hiba.R on (December 30, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

India's secret to succeed lies in a positive attitude especially by the Indian Captain, who for some strange reason decided not to take a new ball even long after it was due....reasons he only knows. The team management should not allow this man to play with the emotions of a billion people, rather make him understand that he is there to deliver to the expectations and not to his likes or dislikes. The captain's attitude tranforms in to team spirit and attitude, the same was on display today. Steyn showed more temperament than Dhoni in batting as the later needs the flatest of the pitches to hit the ball with no or very little technique. BCCI should seriously think about fixing these issues and also stop opposing the use of DRS which, if was in affect, in this series would have benefitted Indian team more than SA. Stop the non-sense or people would stop showing up for the IPL, which perhaps the only way to tame BCCI and the non-performing so called superstars.

Posted by wapuser on (December 30, 2013, 11:15 GMT)

The first n d most important decision wud b to replace Dhoni with a better wicketkeeper 'BATSMAN'..m not complainin for limited overs but in test criket it is of utmost importance if Ind r to start winnin overseas..n d reins must b handed to either Cheteshwar Pujara or Virat kohli.. The second need is d replacement of Ishant Sharma n Zaheer Khan..v hv Varun aaron..Umesh Yadav ..Ishwar Pandey..Siddharth Kaul..isnt it?? N d last thing is ti recognise each ones role..Jadeja is not an allrounder..he shud cum dwn at no 9-10

Posted by sundersingh on (December 30, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

I think MSD should come out of the shell As imagining him as a pure batsman and the bat like Gilchrist who often rescue the team with his hard hitting. Please MSD make u as hard hitting batsman in tests also. we wouldn't criticize you for ur batting.. if dance down the track given a hard bottom hand punch to that delivery THat robin Petersen will reach Capetown.... for searching ball. please change ur batting style and not ur tecnique.. then u will be regarded as danger as Gilly used to....

Posted by Ahmedpakistan6 on (December 30, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

@Yousufahmed1 - You guys deserve to get bad decisions by the umpire because you dont want DRS.

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (December 30, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

Sack Dhoni, Zaheer, Ishant, Ashwin and the umpires. Get on board with DRS. It is not fool proof but not using it cost us the match today. Kohli and Pujara would have easily handled Steyn and Morkel. There was another shocker yesterday when Petersen was given not out and he went on to tonk a lot. All in all bad luck to India. Proud of the commendable performance of young guns Kohli, Pujara, Rahane, Vijay, Shami and Sir Jadeja. But SACK the guys mentioned in this comment!! ASAP. Start with DHONI.

Posted by rpaul44 on (December 30, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

Somehow If Zaheer can hang in there with Rahane and post a lead of 120-130, it can seem very dangerous for South Africe.

Posted by DhairyBoghani on (December 30, 2013, 11:04 GMT)

I think India till have a chance (15%) of saving this test as rahane is playing and tail showed their ability to stay at crease. Khan(with Harbhajan saved test in aus) Ishant(with lakshman tI make 100 runs partnership to win a game & series witn 2-0 vs aus) Shaming(with Rohit to led him to 111 from 46 vs WI).

Posted by Cric_fever_forever on (December 30, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

this is going to be big Upset for me keeping in mind South Africa record against asian team at Durban is Not outstanding. they had clear plan at the start of there innings like it or nor the exicuation was slow but spot on. So well done to South Africa. match is Still on so there any chance of rain?? my best wishes with proteas and kallis can be fitting way to end his test INNINGS cheers every one !!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

Can't see SA losing a test series anytime soon. The boys are sooooo good its untrue. We run this test game. #1

Posted by SydneyIndi on (December 30, 2013, 10:58 GMT)

Dhoni's negative captaincy is now most likely cost the series for us. Instead of taking the new ball and try knocking over steyn, petersen, etc he opted for very negative tactics. We can't win by trying to give away less runs with an old ball! What has happened in this series? Our youngsters played very well but Dhoni managed to let SA off the hook in the first test and after 181 for 1 in this test, we may still loose it. All due to his pathetic negativity. It is now time to look for a new captain with sound batting skills and most importantly with an attacking mindframe. May be some one with experience like Sehwag or Gambhir or the like (I don't like Kohli or Pujara to lead yet. Not ready yet. They need to concentrate on batting) We also need a proper wicket keeper batsman whose technique is sound against fast bouncy bowling O/S. Keep Dhoni for only ODIs and T20s. In reality, he was not good enough for tests O/S; we need to recognise and acknowledge that. Otherwise the same continues.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:58 GMT)

SA play better in this test match than india

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

The umpire made his call , and it was wrong . If happens

India's own fault for being so against drs . If it was active in the series the error would have been reversed

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (December 30, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

Well the brief resistance from Ind -esp. the admirable Pujara showed lot of grit- ended v early via a howler -BCCIndia be the last team to complain though- then some 'crack'-a-jack good 1s by SA pacers.And another inevit. occuring of an Ind O/seas looms.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

south africa is a better team than india. and strung is a great bowler.

Posted by GoCho on (December 30, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

Thank you India for giving me a much needed dose of reality. I was worried that India would draw/win the series and the BCCI would get away with this sort of bullying and pathetic scheduling. So Indians will return with a mauling in the ODI series and a 1-0 loss in the tests (which were much closer than I expected). Wake up BCCI!

Posted by khanzblr on (December 30, 2013, 10:50 GMT)

I think this Indian team did a very good job when all of us expected nothing much than a low scoring innings every time they batted. We should still support every player in this team as this has been the best performance in South Africa by any Indian team. This team is not like the one which would bundle out in 35 to 40 overs scoring under 150 runs... It will be interesting how the same team would perform if they go to NZ and AUS tours...

Posted by Capricorn60 on (December 30, 2013, 10:50 GMT)

As expected, Dhoni's defensive & negative strategy of yesterday has totally backfired & we are going to be soundly trashed today! However may not be a bad thing as only then something may be done to get rid to all the 'deadwood' from our team & realize we need some genuinely fast hostile bowlers to ably compete when playing abroad. Our batting & fielding has seen to be very able but we can't back this up with such mediocre medium-pace bowling - as seen yesterday when even the SA tail made merry & easily slaughtered our useless seam bowling.

Posted by TheOnlyEmperor on (December 30, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

This tour highlights a couple of points which have always been India's weakness abroad: 1. The Indian fast bowlers don't have line and length discipline, hence unable to take wickets unless the batsman commit serious mistakes. Not being able to bowl out the opposition on the last day and 4th innings after 135 overs should be revealing to all! 2. Our batsmen don't have the temperament to watch and play and play by minimising risk. It's a shocker how the tail got out in the first innings leaving Rahane stranded in the 2nd test and leaving Ashwin stranded in the 1st Test. 3. I'm unable to comprehend why the Indian top order struggle to play off the first 15-20 overs of quality pace bowling, without losing their wicket, especially when there is no pressure on them to score at any given rate! Shows poor technique! All their big scores and averages in Indian first class cricket are worthless!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Indian fans see the calibre of our superstars ..who are reallly flat track buliies . In the first match our bowling was exposed and now its the batting....on a track when robin peterson decimated the hapless Indian bowlers our batsmen couldnt even manage to survive. Dhawan and Sharma were totally exposed. Indian still persists with Ishant Sharma and there is no replacement for ageing Zaheer Khan. Not to worry though very soon BCCI will arrange a home series against Zimbabwe or West Indies.

Posted by PACERONE on (December 30, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

If Kohli is fined for showing descent then the Indian cricket board should pay his fine.DRS was put in place for just this type of dismissal.Teams prefer to use it for other reasons.

Posted by Protears on (December 30, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

India's issue is the team composition, in my opinion the team should be;

Dharwan, Vijay, Pujara, Kholi, Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Jadeja, 3x seamers There is plenty batting and less taxing on the seamers with spin options

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

I snigger at all these "taking positives" baloney people are saying. India and Dhoni stuffed up again in winning a series in South Africa. But yet Smith gets all the critcism. Bowling on a wearing pitch for five sessions coldnt bowl South Africa out. Being 181/1 and look what happened.

Posted by wapuser on (December 30, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

Visual tests should be done for the umpires before each test.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

sir jadeja?? When was he knighted?

Posted by eilsaky on (December 30, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

To perform on foreign soil in Test Cricket India needs to get rid of Dhoni, Ashwin. People who are of little talent and cant perform in demanding conditions. Dinesh Kartik has to be persisted with in test cricket. I cant figure out how Wriddhiman Saha can be a reserve WC ahead of Kartik. Is it simply a ploy by Dhoni to avoid any competition. Amit Mishra needs to come into the side for NZ tour knowing that the kiwis are not so good against wrist spin.

Dhoni has amazing acumen for the limited overs cricket but in Test Cricket he seems clueless. Also his limitations as a keeper and a batsman are exposed on demanding surfaces abroad.

Posted by zzby on (December 30, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

Steyn is the boss , after first match everybody was making jokes now make more please!!!

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (December 30, 2013, 10:37 GMT)

@ K.M.Salik We will enjoy IPL don't worry. We still are placed well in ICC rankings in all the formats, we are enjoying that as well. Obviously we don't expect words of appreciation for this young side and the fight that they have shown from Indian haters like you. We even had 3 bad decisions in this game, 2 when SA were batting and one for kohli but we still are proud of our young team coz they didn't get bowled out for under 50 like most of the teams who visited before us. We are enjoying the fact that series will be decided on the last day of the last test which was not expected before. We do enjoy all these things. Thanks for your concern.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

Good match by both sides. The better side won.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:35 GMT)

Steyn BEWARE. In IPL Rohit will be waiting for you ;) One more overseas series loss for Dhoni. Time to get a new coach and be a bit more prudent in selections of flamboyant players like jadeja, Rohit and even dhawan. Yes other players could have failed too but what's wrong in preparation? grooming an all rounder etc is part of the preparation. This is like saying "I will study during the exams".

Posted by K.M.Salik on (December 30, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

this was the first time in the test match series that india had to bat with south africa in the lead....and this pressure was enough for them to collapse...had south africa batted first in both tests it should have been 2-0...smith just missed a trick of batting first in first test

Posted by Maverick_26 on (December 30, 2013, 10:31 GMT)

OK, so it seems this game will be finished before Tea most likely. There are two ways of looking at IND's performance on this tour. These young IND batsman did show that when they apply themselves they can indeed play a long innings. IND has definitely found some good talent as they build a solid test team for future. If one talks about Batting, I think Pujara, Kohli & Rahane have demonstrated great skill and application, hence these should be our No# 3,4,5. The openers were exposed but I think it would be too early to be too critical on them. Vijay showed great patience and applied himself ensuring the new balls were seen off. Dhawan needs to improve but I think he has the talent so should be retained. That leaves no# 6 & 7 -- Rohit sharma needs to work on his game if he wants to stay in the team so does Dhoni with Dinesh Karthik knocking on the door. Now between Jadeja & Ashwin only one can stay in the team for abroad test matches, we dont need 2 spin all rounder overseas!

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

Rohit sharma is just a waste in test and specially in overseas.. Just limit him to ODI only.. Most important thing is remove dhoni from the tests and let puajra do the leader workout.

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

so this will be a bitter end to the 7 match undefeated streak ...:-(

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

Well Played SA. India defensive plan didn't work. They should have gone for quick runs to save themselves. Anyway a very good series of cricket almost came to an end :)

Posted by   on (December 30, 2013, 10:20 GMT)

Even with this test and the series lost, I would be happy by the performance of India, considering what we all expected out of them in this tour. A very inexperienced side, it only has upwards to go, and they have shown the intent against the N01 test team in their own backyard. Plenty of positives for India on this tour. Hope they get better for the upcoming overseas tours.

Posted by K.M.Salik on (December 30, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

Today india showed the performance expected from them overseas...so they do unable to change their overseas record....it was as expected..nothing to worry indian fans..u should enjoy ipl at home

Posted by truecric_fan on (December 30, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

What was Sir Jadeja thinking when he played such a reckless shot. Did he forget that this is a Test Match and not IPL Game. Another concern is that these 2 tests have exposed Dhonis weaknesses in Test Cricket especially overseas. Our tour to Australia may be a little more challenging if Mitch Johnson keeps bowling like he is in the Ashes.

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South Africa v India at Durban - Dec 26-30, 2013
South Africa won by 10 wickets
South Africa v India at Johannesburg - Dec 18-22, 2013
Match drawn
SAf Invit XI v Indians at Benoni - Dec 13-14, 2013
Match abandoned without a ball bowled
South Africa v India at Centurion - Dec 11, 2013
No result
South Africa v India at Durban - Dec 8, 2013
South Africa won by 134 runs
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