New Zealand news December 4, 2012

Vettori out of South Africa Tests

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Daniel Vettori has been ruled out of New Zealand's Test matches in South Africa which begin early next year. He has not recovered from hernia and Achilles injuries, the latter picked up during the World Twenty20 in Sri Lanka.

Vettori, 33, has missed New Zealand's last five Tests against Sri Lanka, India and West Indies having initially suffered a groin injury in the Caribbean. He had hoped to prove his recovery from the latest setbacks in the Plunket Shield for Northern Districts but has not been able to make an appearance.

With Vettori unavailable Jeetan Patel, the offspinner, will remain the No. 1 slow bowler while Todd Astle, who made his debut in Colombo last week when New Zealand levelled the series, could be included as a second option.

New Zealand play two Tests in South Africa, the first in Cape Town starting on January 2 followed by one in Port Elizabeth from January 11.

There are reports emerging that New Zealand may not be led by Ross Taylor for the tour - which also includes Twenty20s and ODIs - after his relationship with coach Mike Hesson reached breaking point despite the impressive series-leveling victory in Colombo. Taylor, however, tweeted* he had given no ultimatum to New Zealand Cricket or made any decisions about his captaincy. "A lot of speculation out there. I have heard from the CEO once," he said on Twitter. "I haven't made any decisions. At no time have I given NZC any... ...ultimatums about Hesson or Me or South Africa."

Other than the win in Colombo it has been a difficult year for New Zealand with Test series defeats at home to South Africa then away in West Indies and India while they were knocked out in the Super Eights of the World Twenty20. They have also lost 10 of their last 13 ODIs and in the latest ICC rankings have slipped to ninth behind Bangladesh.

Taylor was named captain in June last year following Vettori's reign having previously done the job as a stand-in. The captaincy had a positive impact on Taylor's Test average with it rising to 49.85 from 13 Tests compared to his overall figure of 43.57 and he struck three hundreds in those matches, including a crucial 142 in Colombo recently.

* - 0500GMT, December 5, 2012 - The story was updated to include Ross Taylor's tweets

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  • pauln2 on December 6, 2012, 23:28 GMT

    The series in South Africa will be hard enough without making a rod for our own backs over the captaincy. Taylor has, after all, overseen two very good wins away from home in the last 12 months. He's also sure of his place - a must for any skipper. I prefer McCullum in the first lieutenant role, as he is a positive force in the dressing room but has his own form issues at times. Vettori won't be there, so stop worrying about that. And then get on with it - an awful lot of hard work has to go into the series against a team that has just hammered Australia at Perth after looking almost gone at Adelaide. The South Africans are a team with no factions, and we need to be as well. New Zealand shouldn't beat this South African side, but I'd rather see the fight of Wellington earlier this year rather than the collapse of Hamilton. Then see what happens from there.

  • Lermy on December 6, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    Feel sorry for Taylor, but suspect McCullum should have been captain from word go. Very determined and probably more inspirational. Still, it seems ridiculous timing to do it now just after a rare test win, and with Taylor now not being available for SA. The more things change the more they stay the same. Jesse Ryder for captain anyone...???? Boy could he lead the drinking sessions, and at this rate NZ might need some!

  • InvisibleMovement on December 6, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    I remember when Taylor got the nod as captain there was talk of two camps - the Taylor camp and McCullum camp. Just by watching the body language of the team on the field it seems obvious that this is still the case. John Wright hoped they could work together, but also noted at the time that the call to make Taylor captain was not 'completely cut and dried'. Nightmare scenario when it seemed New Zealand was slowly getting back on track with a few players getting used to their roles in the team.

  • PEkans on December 6, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    @Hawk89 - these are all things that can be learnt, as mentioned in a few other comments, if Taylor's given support and proper coaching, he can grow as captain. Instability does nothing to nurture this. On the other hand, it appears McCullum is totally unable to grow up or listen to any sort of advice - how many times has he thrown his wicket away at key times?

  • HawK89 on December 6, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Taylor isn't captain material. Who cares if his personal average went slightly up, he still plays around his pads and a poor technique. He doesn't know how to rotate bowlers, puts a spin bowler on when its swinging and field settings that don't make sense. Gives a leg spinner an off spinner's field. Franklin has no idea how to bat or bowl under Taylor.

  • vaughanw on December 6, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    Just when things are starting to develop, NZC has become the laughing stock of the world AGAIN!! Even after we beat Sri Lanka at home... Nice job boys! Brendon McCullum in my view is the most over rated cricketer in NZ and probably the world! I believe he also captained an IPL team in 2009 too. As Buchannon will well know they finished last! Therefore "superior catain" based on what? Taylor's record is not exactly flash either, but it feels like something is developing - Wins against Australia, Sri Lanka, and dont forget a very spirited perfornace against SA (the best team in the world by a distance). Taylor broke his arm in the 3rd, and returned ready to bat if needed. Lead by example I say! Hesson should pull his head in and work on developing Taylor where is necessary, and McCullum should be supporting him too! Too many selfish personalities, and if the heads of NZC can let this happen then im affraid we are doomed to another decade of embarrasment!

  • Erebus26 on December 6, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    I really don't think losing Vettori is that much of a big deal for NZ - certainly not from a bowling point of view, as I don't think he was doing that well before his injury problems. Jeetan Patel bowled very well in India and Sri Lanka and Todd Astle did ok too in the latter tour so I don't think NZ will be a worse side for taking those two guys to South Africa. I think Patel bowling for Warwickshire in English county cricket has done wonders for him tbh and he seems a lot more confident about his overall game. He's not going to go through a side but he'll pick up wickets here and there and will tie down an end for his skipper whoever that will be. Oh and Ross Taylor is the best captain for the Black Caps so it's imperative that he and coach sort things out and quick. Good to read some honest comments from Wayne Carter and Malcolm Gordon on this issue.

  • anver777 on December 6, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    Ross is the ideal man to lead this young NZ for now, there's no suitable person who can replace him as captain, so better he continues the role for sometime !!!!!

  • youfoundme on December 6, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Ross Taylor is by far our best batsmen in the side. If we lose him because of this, prepare to lose all fan-based support and matches to come. Because without him or Jesse Ryder, we will be nothing but a hit and giggle team. Brendon McCullum use to be a favourite of mine, but his attitude and ability is pathetic. I'd much rather see him be given the chop along with this Hesson chump.

  • on December 5, 2012, 23:37 GMT

    if this was England or India or Australia this would be 3 or 4 different stories. But its NZ, so we can jam together a story about their most experienced player missing another important series and the possibility of a leadership change. Sad, because there are huge unanswered questions in both cases: Should Vettori be persisted with, who is coming through? Is McCullum the only replacement for Taylor, what about Guptil, Williamson...

  • pauln2 on December 6, 2012, 23:28 GMT

    The series in South Africa will be hard enough without making a rod for our own backs over the captaincy. Taylor has, after all, overseen two very good wins away from home in the last 12 months. He's also sure of his place - a must for any skipper. I prefer McCullum in the first lieutenant role, as he is a positive force in the dressing room but has his own form issues at times. Vettori won't be there, so stop worrying about that. And then get on with it - an awful lot of hard work has to go into the series against a team that has just hammered Australia at Perth after looking almost gone at Adelaide. The South Africans are a team with no factions, and we need to be as well. New Zealand shouldn't beat this South African side, but I'd rather see the fight of Wellington earlier this year rather than the collapse of Hamilton. Then see what happens from there.

  • Lermy on December 6, 2012, 23:16 GMT

    Feel sorry for Taylor, but suspect McCullum should have been captain from word go. Very determined and probably more inspirational. Still, it seems ridiculous timing to do it now just after a rare test win, and with Taylor now not being available for SA. The more things change the more they stay the same. Jesse Ryder for captain anyone...???? Boy could he lead the drinking sessions, and at this rate NZ might need some!

  • InvisibleMovement on December 6, 2012, 22:01 GMT

    I remember when Taylor got the nod as captain there was talk of two camps - the Taylor camp and McCullum camp. Just by watching the body language of the team on the field it seems obvious that this is still the case. John Wright hoped they could work together, but also noted at the time that the call to make Taylor captain was not 'completely cut and dried'. Nightmare scenario when it seemed New Zealand was slowly getting back on track with a few players getting used to their roles in the team.

  • PEkans on December 6, 2012, 21:42 GMT

    @Hawk89 - these are all things that can be learnt, as mentioned in a few other comments, if Taylor's given support and proper coaching, he can grow as captain. Instability does nothing to nurture this. On the other hand, it appears McCullum is totally unable to grow up or listen to any sort of advice - how many times has he thrown his wicket away at key times?

  • HawK89 on December 6, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Taylor isn't captain material. Who cares if his personal average went slightly up, he still plays around his pads and a poor technique. He doesn't know how to rotate bowlers, puts a spin bowler on when its swinging and field settings that don't make sense. Gives a leg spinner an off spinner's field. Franklin has no idea how to bat or bowl under Taylor.

  • vaughanw on December 6, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    Just when things are starting to develop, NZC has become the laughing stock of the world AGAIN!! Even after we beat Sri Lanka at home... Nice job boys! Brendon McCullum in my view is the most over rated cricketer in NZ and probably the world! I believe he also captained an IPL team in 2009 too. As Buchannon will well know they finished last! Therefore "superior catain" based on what? Taylor's record is not exactly flash either, but it feels like something is developing - Wins against Australia, Sri Lanka, and dont forget a very spirited perfornace against SA (the best team in the world by a distance). Taylor broke his arm in the 3rd, and returned ready to bat if needed. Lead by example I say! Hesson should pull his head in and work on developing Taylor where is necessary, and McCullum should be supporting him too! Too many selfish personalities, and if the heads of NZC can let this happen then im affraid we are doomed to another decade of embarrasment!

  • Erebus26 on December 6, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    I really don't think losing Vettori is that much of a big deal for NZ - certainly not from a bowling point of view, as I don't think he was doing that well before his injury problems. Jeetan Patel bowled very well in India and Sri Lanka and Todd Astle did ok too in the latter tour so I don't think NZ will be a worse side for taking those two guys to South Africa. I think Patel bowling for Warwickshire in English county cricket has done wonders for him tbh and he seems a lot more confident about his overall game. He's not going to go through a side but he'll pick up wickets here and there and will tie down an end for his skipper whoever that will be. Oh and Ross Taylor is the best captain for the Black Caps so it's imperative that he and coach sort things out and quick. Good to read some honest comments from Wayne Carter and Malcolm Gordon on this issue.

  • anver777 on December 6, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    Ross is the ideal man to lead this young NZ for now, there's no suitable person who can replace him as captain, so better he continues the role for sometime !!!!!

  • youfoundme on December 6, 2012, 3:13 GMT

    Ross Taylor is by far our best batsmen in the side. If we lose him because of this, prepare to lose all fan-based support and matches to come. Because without him or Jesse Ryder, we will be nothing but a hit and giggle team. Brendon McCullum use to be a favourite of mine, but his attitude and ability is pathetic. I'd much rather see him be given the chop along with this Hesson chump.

  • on December 5, 2012, 23:37 GMT

    if this was England or India or Australia this would be 3 or 4 different stories. But its NZ, so we can jam together a story about their most experienced player missing another important series and the possibility of a leadership change. Sad, because there are huge unanswered questions in both cases: Should Vettori be persisted with, who is coming through? Is McCullum the only replacement for Taylor, what about Guptil, Williamson...

  • on December 5, 2012, 22:33 GMT

    This is just utterly shambolic! Mike "who" Hesson should be dumped, there's a reason why such importance is placed in eliminating conflict of issues. Ross is NZ's best batsmen and NZC should be looking at taking care of him more so than Brendon, who has to be one of the most overrated self centred players in world cricket. He's not a world class, let alone NZ class test opener, and if he's not keeping, he should be eliminated from the test squad. Well done NZC, your rankings are testament to your mindset!

  • spesh on December 5, 2012, 22:17 GMT

    Hesson rightly put a rocket up Taylor after the Galle test. NZ showed zero fight or courage, and I don't believe Taylor is a natural leader. However he picked himself and his troups up and delivered one of the most surprising and satisfactory wins in NZ's mediocre cricketing history. This story should have been buried there. Why is the leadership at NZC not backing their skipper after a performance like that? McCullum appears a much more natural leader, and I have no doubt he would be Hesson's preferred captain, but he barely does enough to keep his place in the side as an opener. Williamson isn't fully cooked yet. Taylor wins by default!

  • yorkslanka on December 5, 2012, 21:47 GMT

    vettori needs to listen to his body...ross taylor is the future of nz cricket

  • plow on December 5, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    I spent a lot of time bagging Ross Taylor as captain, now I wish I hadn't. He seems to have sorted out his batting temperment at test level. That indicates to me he is growing as captain as well. He has shifted somehow, just in the last test he was a different player. I hope they sort this out and that we can continue to get the best team on the park working together. NZ cricket fans need some unity and some performance on the park. Just to give us something to be proud of. Get into a closed room guys, grab a box of beers, air your differences and get over yourselves... you have a much bigger fish to fry than just your own personal preferences.

  • shiven. on December 5, 2012, 20:41 GMT

    South Africa are gna teach them a lesson they'd want to 4get bcz south africa arnt a depleted srilanka ....SA are number with number batsmen n bowler n allrounder n coach n captian !!!! New zealand ...can't say the same ...n I wonder who's nose steyns gna break ....n hw many will amla make .....all these questions will be answered ..... Taylor better player than brendon mre consistent ....vettori huge loss experience gna be missed and ther coach needs to motivate nt them

  • SurlyCynic on December 5, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    I think NZ have a good chance of winning the test series against SA.

  • on December 5, 2012, 16:19 GMT

    IMO RossTaylor is too introverted to be a good captain. He's a smashing player, seems like a decent bloke etc but just not sure he's captain material.

  • 6pack on December 5, 2012, 15:11 GMT

    Good solid batsman and developing into a fine captain... NZ should stick with Taylor.

  • jplterrors on December 5, 2012, 14:53 GMT

    tough dilema for NZ with the 2 best captains in world cricket in their ranks, McCullum wd be an excellent choice but I just hope it dosent isolate Taylor out of the team and lead to him quitting the scene early we can not afford 2 lose Taylor in his prime. Dans got 3-4 seasons left in him a break might do him gd but he seems 2 be injuring everything atm.

  • S.Jagernath on December 5, 2012, 14:28 GMT

    This is seriously weird behaviour from NZ Cricket.Ross Taylor has struggled a bit,but NZ don't win that much in any case.His a player with some talent & he deserves more time.I can't believe that they are still waiting for Daniel Vettori.

  • Whatsgoinoffoutthere on December 5, 2012, 14:23 GMT

    As a complete outsider to this, appearances give me the opinion that Ross Taylor could expect a little more support here. Also, in the past I've seen him more or less hand his wicket to the opposition, asking if they'd like it gift-wrapped, but I thought he was improving and the stats seem to back that up.

    Vettori should take a break from the IPL or accept that NZ are going to move on without him. I was surprised at the time of the last tournament that he didn't recognise the need for a rest. It's not as if he's had an injury-free career.

    Brendon McCullum is not an Test-class opening batsman. The end.

  • aby_prasad on December 5, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    this is one big difference in a team like India and other teams. New Zealand media and fans handle it in a quiet/loud way but in a controlled environment. If this was India's issue, god save the captain's peace of mind, the coach and the board while fans and media buz would reach a feverish pitch. Its hard! amazing how players handle such pressure.

  • on December 5, 2012, 10:59 GMT

    From what I can see Ross Taylor leads by example with the bat and as a terrific slipper. He seems to put the team first but I'm not sure how he is as a mentor or senior member but I'd definitely keep him as Captain. Brendon McCullum's form is a worry and it's probably best he bats at number 5. Anyways, I'd stick with the current side and I hope this latest victory spurs them on to a series win.

  • amclean on December 5, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    NZC is having a dreadful couple of years. First they appointed John Buchanan as John Wright's boss (what was the thinking there?), then they lost Allan Donald and John Wright, the best coaching partnership we'd ever had. Next they give Brendon McCullum a holiday during a winnable ODI series in the West Indies and then they appoint a coach (Mike Hesson) with scant international experience (Argentina and Kenya!).

    Now Hesson wants to appoint McCullum as captain, when Ross Taylor has led the team to Test victories in Australia and Sri Lanka in the last 12 months and improved his own form considerably as captain. It's time NZC (David White as CEO) sorted this mess out, starting with getting a coach in the same class as John Wright and looking very hard at whether Buchanan's role is really needed. And finally making McCullum do what he does best - keep wicket!

  • on December 5, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    There is no way Hesson could give the job to McCullum now. Look for someone like Kane Williamson to be given the captaincy if there is any change at all.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on December 5, 2012, 10:16 GMT

    Taylor should remain as the captain while get rid of coach.

  • MrZygon on December 5, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    It's a bit odd cricinfo isn't giving this story more prominence. Maybe the NZ media are beating it up a bit but seems an absolute crisis in NZ cricket. CEO has been doorstepped coming off the plane from Dubai and can't give a straight answer. Be madness to drop Taylor as Test captain tho. Only him Southee, Boult and Williamson would be guaranteed to be picked for tests in Sth africa.

  • bwnz on December 5, 2012, 6:24 GMT

    This is classic nz cricket. Alienate one of our best players, almost exclusively through the media, allow speculation to bubble up, allow pockets of power to build and then let this burst, wrecking any kind of promise our team was starting to build.

    SORT IT OUT!! Captain based on merit, allow time for development, batsmen need to get back to basics (see Martin Crowe's fine article), the bowlers seem to be doing okay so don't try and mould them into generic robots. Simple!

  • on December 5, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    One Hundred Percent behind Ross Taylor.

  • abyrao on December 5, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    Ross has to be the captain, that last test against SL was the beginning of a climb from the slump, you cant chop him. Who will lead apart from Taylor - only McCullum can. Williamson is a over hyped cricketer he first needs to be consistent to cement his place, Guptill is another guy who is inconsistent and i feel he will not be able to cope Steyn and co. So they need to patch up if there are differences and go on with Taylor, also Ryder should be a part of the team.

  • OrgiaMode on December 5, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    I think we might as well consider Vettori retired at this point unfortunately. Can't remember the last game he actually played for us.

  • VivtheGreatest on December 5, 2012, 5:17 GMT

    Really, they want to sack Taylor after winning a Test and levelling the series in Sri Lanka which is a very difficult task for most non-subcontinental teams. Better to get rid of the unheard of coach as his role is overrated. Like Ian Chappell once said, for international teams a coach is something to carry u from the stadium to the hotel!!

  • kiwicricketnut on December 5, 2012, 4:46 GMT

    Nz cricket is a shambles so much so we are now ranked below bangladesh, the aussies running the ship just have no idea and the farce they are creating is trickling down to the players. I was a mccullum backer when the race for captaincy was on, i thought his aggressive style was just what we needed but taylor was picked and needed a decent crack at it.so now we have yet another circus before another important tour because the men at the top are clueless and just damn destructive to the game is this country. Feel for you ross its not your fault but you're the fall guy

  • sonu77 on December 5, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    NZ will miss his experience badly in the upcoming tour.btw like to see ryder, redmond & watling in the squad.My NZ squad for SA tests : martin guptill, Aaron redmond, kane williamson, BJ watling(w/k), jesse ryder, ross taylor, brendon mCcullum, colin munro, doug bracewell, todd astle, tim southee, trent boult, neil wagner, jeetan patel, chris martin.

  • TheDoctor394 on December 5, 2012, 1:38 GMT

    I'm amazed at the possibility of Taylor not captaining New Zealand anymore. Yes, they haven't had a good year, but how many times DO they? That win in Sri Lanka (and remember the win in Australia last year) was oustanding, and Taylor's form has obviously improved with the captaincy. Surely he should keep the job.

  • Sinhaya on December 5, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    Oh no so sad to see Vettori out again. I dont think changing captains is right. Give Taylor more time as he managed 2 away test wins (in Australia and Sri Lanka) sans Vettori.

  • nzcricket174 on December 5, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    McCullum is poison to this team, he needs to go! He is the most overrated player in the world, and this is coming from a kiwi. He is talked up so much, but where are his performances? Let me think back. He struck a T20 hundred against Bangladesh earlier this year, a few good knocks against Zimbabwe, hm what else? Oh yeah, a double hundred two years ago on the only thing flatter than 180°. McCullum wins his position on talent alone. Taylor, however, has provided us with those much needed innings when required. As mentioned, he is averaging around 50 as captain, showing he has stepped up to the plate.

  • ArsalanMujahidGhouri on December 5, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    Newzealand surely miss One Man Army (Vettori) in SA tour

  • ArsalanMujahidGhouri on December 5, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    how come a reasonable performed captain can lose job just because of clash with coach. N Mcc is hopeless in everything except his keeping skills..

  • on December 4, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    There is nothing on New Zealand crickets homepage, but talk back radio is full of a Hesson v Taylor rift. Upcoming decisions could lead to Taylor, who is our best batsman leaving the game. Sort it out NZ cricket, let the fans know what is happening.

  • corzaNZ on December 4, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    What a joke! Brendon McCullum. he should be questioned whether he should even make the team. McCullum hasnt performed in a long time, apart from his 225 hes been riding on for 2-3 years and his 100 in T20 World Cup, so other than that his record is POOR, any other player in the team would be under pressure to keep their spot. and they are wanting to hand the captaincy to him..... huge mistake!!!

  • Sombrehombre on December 4, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    I think NZ is better off with 4 pace bowlers in South Africa rather than Patel or Astle occupying a spot. Vettori picks himself when fit but he is the only class spinner NZ have. NZ stick to your strengths - remember hobart?

  • TrickyKid on December 4, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    Dumping Taylor would be a bad move. Sure NZ are in dire straits at the moment but his captaincy has improved and I don't think McCullum offers anything better... apart from he is mates with the new coach. His cavalier approach to his batting wouldn't suit captaincy, especially a NZ team that relies on team work so much. They should take heart from their recent win and keep rebuilding. The NZ board are the ones that should be dumped... go back to lawn bowls. The captain is the one everyone should unite behind and not play childish games behind his back.

  • on December 4, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    lolz New Zealand are new minnows slipping behind to Bangladesh. If they couldn't at all beat South Africa earlier this year then them touring over their place will be even more one-sided.

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  • on December 4, 2012, 22:08 GMT

    lolz New Zealand are new minnows slipping behind to Bangladesh. If they couldn't at all beat South Africa earlier this year then them touring over their place will be even more one-sided.

  • TrickyKid on December 4, 2012, 23:20 GMT

    Dumping Taylor would be a bad move. Sure NZ are in dire straits at the moment but his captaincy has improved and I don't think McCullum offers anything better... apart from he is mates with the new coach. His cavalier approach to his batting wouldn't suit captaincy, especially a NZ team that relies on team work so much. They should take heart from their recent win and keep rebuilding. The NZ board are the ones that should be dumped... go back to lawn bowls. The captain is the one everyone should unite behind and not play childish games behind his back.

  • Sombrehombre on December 4, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    I think NZ is better off with 4 pace bowlers in South Africa rather than Patel or Astle occupying a spot. Vettori picks himself when fit but he is the only class spinner NZ have. NZ stick to your strengths - remember hobart?

  • corzaNZ on December 4, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    What a joke! Brendon McCullum. he should be questioned whether he should even make the team. McCullum hasnt performed in a long time, apart from his 225 hes been riding on for 2-3 years and his 100 in T20 World Cup, so other than that his record is POOR, any other player in the team would be under pressure to keep their spot. and they are wanting to hand the captaincy to him..... huge mistake!!!

  • on December 4, 2012, 23:44 GMT

    There is nothing on New Zealand crickets homepage, but talk back radio is full of a Hesson v Taylor rift. Upcoming decisions could lead to Taylor, who is our best batsman leaving the game. Sort it out NZ cricket, let the fans know what is happening.

  • ArsalanMujahidGhouri on December 5, 2012, 0:21 GMT

    how come a reasonable performed captain can lose job just because of clash with coach. N Mcc is hopeless in everything except his keeping skills..

  • ArsalanMujahidGhouri on December 5, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    Newzealand surely miss One Man Army (Vettori) in SA tour

  • nzcricket174 on December 5, 2012, 0:28 GMT

    McCullum is poison to this team, he needs to go! He is the most overrated player in the world, and this is coming from a kiwi. He is talked up so much, but where are his performances? Let me think back. He struck a T20 hundred against Bangladesh earlier this year, a few good knocks against Zimbabwe, hm what else? Oh yeah, a double hundred two years ago on the only thing flatter than 180°. McCullum wins his position on talent alone. Taylor, however, has provided us with those much needed innings when required. As mentioned, he is averaging around 50 as captain, showing he has stepped up to the plate.

  • Sinhaya on December 5, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    Oh no so sad to see Vettori out again. I dont think changing captains is right. Give Taylor more time as he managed 2 away test wins (in Australia and Sri Lanka) sans Vettori.

  • TheDoctor394 on December 5, 2012, 1:38 GMT

    I'm amazed at the possibility of Taylor not captaining New Zealand anymore. Yes, they haven't had a good year, but how many times DO they? That win in Sri Lanka (and remember the win in Australia last year) was oustanding, and Taylor's form has obviously improved with the captaincy. Surely he should keep the job.