South Africa v New Zealand, 1st Test, Cape Town 1st day January 2, 2013

Philander shoots out New Zealand for 45

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Tea South Africa 252 for 3 (Petersen 103*, Amla 66, Kallis 60) lead New Zealand 45 (Philander 5-7, Morkel 3-14) by 207 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

A wonderfully-crafted new-ball spell from Vernon Philander, which brought him five wickets in six overs, set the tone for a wholly embarrassing day for New Zealand as they careered to the third-lowest Test score in their history, and the lowest Test total since 1974, in a contest which wasted no time in giving the impression of a mismatch.

The New Zealand innings, undermined initially by Philander's excellence, but increasingly defeatist as it progressed, lasted only 19.2 overs as they were bowled out in the first session. Lunch was still 19 minutes away when Daniel Flynn made a hash of a pull at Dale Steyn to be the last man out, leaving New Zealand no nearer to finding a semblance of stability following the controversial sacking of Ross Taylor from the captaincy.

It was a gorgeous day at Newlands, and a capacity crowd soaked up the sunshine and relished the sight of South African domination.

South Africa lost their captain, Graeme Smith, in two overs leading up to lunch, but the mastery established by Philander was equally apparent with the bat. Alviro Petersen helped himself to a measured, unbeaten Test hundred to underline his growing maturity. Hashim Amla purred along much as he pleased against optimistically attacking fields, extending his repertoire on occasions as if to stave off boredom and making 66 from 74 balls, before he wandered blithely across his stumps against James Franklin and suffered for his presumption.

Statistical landmarks, though, fell elsewhere. Dale Steyn reached 300 Test wickets in his 61st Test before lunch and became the fourth South African to do so, following Shaun Pollock, Allan Donald and Makhaya Ntini. Then came another redoubtable figure, Jacques Kallis, who joined Sachin Tendulkar, Ricky Ponting and Rahul Dravid as makers of 13,000 Test runs. He briefly gorged himself on the New Zealand attack in the unconcerned manner of a king used to more exacting feats before departing with many potential courses left uneaten.

This has been one of the sorriest interludes in New Zealand cricket, with allegations of dishonesty and former players burning blazers, but when the real business - Test cricket - returned, matters became even worse as New Zealand were humbled by a mighty South Africa pace attack.

Philander's method was simple and clinical as he maintained impeccable accuracy and found just enough assistance to be persistently threatening. Martin Guptill, Dean Brownlie and BJ Watling edged to wicketkeeper or slips, New Zealand's brusque new captain, Brendon McCullum, was bowled off an inside edge trying to cover the outswing and Kane Williamson fell lbw after his recourse to DRS proved unsuccessful.

There was nothing manifestly disturbing about Philander, no trepidation caused by express pace or even lavish movement, but conditions were lively enough and he lulled a somewhat naïve New Zealand batting line-up into error, killing with kindness, a technician takinbg advantage of indeterminate footwork. It took South Africa a long time to recognise his subtle talents and he is making up for lost time.

He returned new-ball figures of 6-3-7-5, quite a feat for a bowler who had been doubtful for this Test after tweaking a hamstring a fortnight ago and who was described by Smith, his captain, on the eve of the Test as "provisionally fit". New Zealand will be provisionally judged to be out of their depth and the two-Test series will be provisionally held to be over.

All this delayed, if not entirely overshadowed, Steyn's move to 300 Test wickets. He went unrewarded in his opening spell while Philander wreaked havoc, but switched to the Wynberg End for his second spell and with his third ball bowled Doug Bracewell with a delivery that swung away to hit off stump.

The last thing New Zealand needed was a difficult decision at the toss, but that was what McCullum faced in his first Test in charge since the removal of Taylor. The pitch was green, if not especially so, and certainly not as green as the New Zealand batsmen. It would have been tempting for New Zealand captains of the old school to feel their way into the Test by having a bowl. Instead, McCullum took the assertive route, as is his style, and his team was found entirely wanting.

In cricketing terms, McCullum's decision was justifiable. There were enough cracks in a pitch dried out by the strong winds of recent days to dissuade McCullum from batting last and, if he looked upwards, he found a stunning Cape Town morning, with Table Mountain shimmering under cloudless blue skies. All they had to do was survive a session. Instead, Philander's lissom skills soon took their toll.

He had a wicket with the last ball of his first over, an outswinger edged by Guptill. There were two more wickets in his third over; a good-length ball caused McCullum to play on and Brownlie fell third ball for nought. It was a limp shot from Brownlie who was batting in Taylor's spot at No. 4 (a spot where Taylor made 142 and 74 in his last two Test innings, against Sri Lanka in Colombo), one that was hardly designed to fill New Zealand with a sense of feelgood.

Philander was unlikely to be given a long spell considering the creeping doubts about his fitness, but he made the most of his limited timespan. Williamson, after having the temerity to drive him down the ground, fell lbw to the last ball of his fourth over and BJ Watling fell to probably the best ball of the lot when the first delivery of his fifth over again found the edge. Morne Morkel preyed upon the tail.

Kallis and Steyn's historic moments will mean that much of the attention will rest upon them. But this is only Philander's third Test at Newlands and he already has 19 wickets at 9.73. He loves Test cricket and he loves nowhere more than Newlands.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Jester01 on January 2, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    As I predicted yesterday, NZ will get slaughtered… Vernon was excellent. He's not tall/quick but very intelligent; similar to Alfonso Thomas but because they are not tall/quick they don't get the recognition they deserve. I hope SA doesn't forget about another intelligent bowler Rusty Theron. All the fast bowlers were superb. Dale just needs to bowl more in-swingers; he's too predictable with the amount of out-swingers he bowling at the moment. The game's probably over as a contest now.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    This goes to show the huge gulf between the top tier teams and New Zealand. It is time for the players to take some responsibility for their continued failures!! As a so far loyal supporter of the Black Caps I have to ask when are they going to sort these batting issues....? There are talented players in the team but they need to start addressing their failures in technique and concentration. I have to feel for the bowlers who are constantly under pressure due to the top order not producing enough runs or even occupying the crease for a significant length of time.

  • TsoroM on January 2, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    This Philander is quite a remarkable test bowler for us (S African). He has played 1 game less than Bracewell but has almost 3 times as many wickets a him and almost half his average (just to put things into perspective). With that said, the NZ bowling is pretty good and had they been given a chance to bowl first, I think we'd still have a "real" test match on our hands, coz I think even with Smith gone there's just so much to do for them now!

  • ygkd on January 4, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Watching the telecast today (over 54), I heard it said in commentary that on the Australian tour, some Australian commentators were amazed that Vernon Philander could extract such assistance from a pitch with a (relatively) short frame. I maintain that Australians have become too obsessed with the height of their pacemen, amongst other things, and that South Africa has the balance right. I do not believe that Philander would have been so successful as an Australian for two reasons - his comparatively unremarkable U19 career, a supposed lack of height and a supposed lack of pace would have meant he would have been unlikely to have granted the time to show his full worth. That is why South Africa is number one and Australia is not. They do not appear to rely on one or two recipes-for-success and, thus, do not put all their eggs in the one basket. Interestingly, I understand that a South African won the national final of the speed comp for grade bowlers held during lunch at Sydney today.

  • Talhacroft on January 3, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    NZ should now hire talented youth cricketers from other nations and give the opportunity to play for NZ.

  • on January 3, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Salman you ignored England winning in Pakistan 1-0 in 2000 and a Test in Lahore (which you'd never lost in before). We were considered the WORST team in the world at that point!! Of course we also won in Sri Lanka 2-1 the same winter (having gone 1-0 down) againt what was one of the strongest SL sides ever!!

  • stormy16 on January 3, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    Dont really know if this makes sense but ever since Vernon has showed up Steyn has been somewhat (dare I say) ineffective! I know its an almost insane thing to say about the best bowler in the world but here we see it again - perfect conditions for fast bowling and Steyn knocked off two tailenders while Vernon polished off the top 5. NZ were poor (thats actually mild) but how good was Vernon - he was practically unplayable and moves the ball just enough. May be that is Steyn's issue - he does too much with the ball. SA were actually awesome with the bat too as that wicket wasnt the easiest to bat on - even the last ball of the day swung away beautifully and all credit to SA and NZ unfortunately is looking for rain and draw at best.

  • on January 3, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    You guys can't have it both ways, if Philander is not so good because the pitches are bowler friendly, then Kallis is the best ever for achieving a higher career average than Tendulkar, Dravid, Ponting, Lara while playing half his test matches on these same bowler friendly wickets. Yet I find that people want to steal recognition from both of these players at the same time, which is a logical contradiction. If philander is not the best because of bowler friendly conditions, then you have to acknowledge that Kallis is the best., if you say that Kallis is not the best, then you have to retract your statements about Philander being helped by the pitch.

  • on January 3, 2013, 8:48 GMT

    @ English Cricket! Lol!Like the saffas showed u, ur true place, where u belong in the previous english summer.

  • Min2000 on January 3, 2013, 8:38 GMT

    Even though things are bad, there are steps that can be taken now to start turning things around at home. Step one is to fire John Buchanan. Just take the hit and pay him out - we need to be rid of him (and David White). We should turn to someone like Martin Sneddon to run the NZC.

    I'd ask Hesson to step down the moment he steps off the plane from South Africa. He's in way over his head and his handling of Taylor's captaincy has damaged the side so much that his position has become untenable.

    We should look at Steve Rixon, who is currently Australia's fielding coach. Offer him the coaching job for 3-4 years beginning with the upcoming England series. Bond can coach the bowlers and Martin Crowe can be the batting coach.

    Lastly we need to get the best team on the field. Taylor, Ryder, Southee, Ronchi and Vettori need to come into the playing group - McCullum, Brownlie and Patel should not play in the England series.

  • Jester01 on January 2, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    As I predicted yesterday, NZ will get slaughtered… Vernon was excellent. He's not tall/quick but very intelligent; similar to Alfonso Thomas but because they are not tall/quick they don't get the recognition they deserve. I hope SA doesn't forget about another intelligent bowler Rusty Theron. All the fast bowlers were superb. Dale just needs to bowl more in-swingers; he's too predictable with the amount of out-swingers he bowling at the moment. The game's probably over as a contest now.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    This goes to show the huge gulf between the top tier teams and New Zealand. It is time for the players to take some responsibility for their continued failures!! As a so far loyal supporter of the Black Caps I have to ask when are they going to sort these batting issues....? There are talented players in the team but they need to start addressing their failures in technique and concentration. I have to feel for the bowlers who are constantly under pressure due to the top order not producing enough runs or even occupying the crease for a significant length of time.

  • TsoroM on January 2, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    This Philander is quite a remarkable test bowler for us (S African). He has played 1 game less than Bracewell but has almost 3 times as many wickets a him and almost half his average (just to put things into perspective). With that said, the NZ bowling is pretty good and had they been given a chance to bowl first, I think we'd still have a "real" test match on our hands, coz I think even with Smith gone there's just so much to do for them now!

  • ygkd on January 4, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Watching the telecast today (over 54), I heard it said in commentary that on the Australian tour, some Australian commentators were amazed that Vernon Philander could extract such assistance from a pitch with a (relatively) short frame. I maintain that Australians have become too obsessed with the height of their pacemen, amongst other things, and that South Africa has the balance right. I do not believe that Philander would have been so successful as an Australian for two reasons - his comparatively unremarkable U19 career, a supposed lack of height and a supposed lack of pace would have meant he would have been unlikely to have granted the time to show his full worth. That is why South Africa is number one and Australia is not. They do not appear to rely on one or two recipes-for-success and, thus, do not put all their eggs in the one basket. Interestingly, I understand that a South African won the national final of the speed comp for grade bowlers held during lunch at Sydney today.

  • Talhacroft on January 3, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    NZ should now hire talented youth cricketers from other nations and give the opportunity to play for NZ.

  • on January 3, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Salman you ignored England winning in Pakistan 1-0 in 2000 and a Test in Lahore (which you'd never lost in before). We were considered the WORST team in the world at that point!! Of course we also won in Sri Lanka 2-1 the same winter (having gone 1-0 down) againt what was one of the strongest SL sides ever!!

  • stormy16 on January 3, 2013, 9:26 GMT

    Dont really know if this makes sense but ever since Vernon has showed up Steyn has been somewhat (dare I say) ineffective! I know its an almost insane thing to say about the best bowler in the world but here we see it again - perfect conditions for fast bowling and Steyn knocked off two tailenders while Vernon polished off the top 5. NZ were poor (thats actually mild) but how good was Vernon - he was practically unplayable and moves the ball just enough. May be that is Steyn's issue - he does too much with the ball. SA were actually awesome with the bat too as that wicket wasnt the easiest to bat on - even the last ball of the day swung away beautifully and all credit to SA and NZ unfortunately is looking for rain and draw at best.

  • on January 3, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    You guys can't have it both ways, if Philander is not so good because the pitches are bowler friendly, then Kallis is the best ever for achieving a higher career average than Tendulkar, Dravid, Ponting, Lara while playing half his test matches on these same bowler friendly wickets. Yet I find that people want to steal recognition from both of these players at the same time, which is a logical contradiction. If philander is not the best because of bowler friendly conditions, then you have to acknowledge that Kallis is the best., if you say that Kallis is not the best, then you have to retract your statements about Philander being helped by the pitch.

  • on January 3, 2013, 8:48 GMT

    @ English Cricket! Lol!Like the saffas showed u, ur true place, where u belong in the previous english summer.

  • Min2000 on January 3, 2013, 8:38 GMT

    Even though things are bad, there are steps that can be taken now to start turning things around at home. Step one is to fire John Buchanan. Just take the hit and pay him out - we need to be rid of him (and David White). We should turn to someone like Martin Sneddon to run the NZC.

    I'd ask Hesson to step down the moment he steps off the plane from South Africa. He's in way over his head and his handling of Taylor's captaincy has damaged the side so much that his position has become untenable.

    We should look at Steve Rixon, who is currently Australia's fielding coach. Offer him the coaching job for 3-4 years beginning with the upcoming England series. Bond can coach the bowlers and Martin Crowe can be the batting coach.

    Lastly we need to get the best team on the field. Taylor, Ryder, Southee, Ronchi and Vettori need to come into the playing group - McCullum, Brownlie and Patel should not play in the England series.

  • RoJayao on January 3, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    Way to go NZ for making Philander look like a world beater again! Just give up playing big time already and stick to playing the hapless Zimbabs for an even contest!

  • tfjones1978 on January 3, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    Even just looking at performance then SA, Eng & Aust can all beat each other. Ind, Srl & Pak can beat each other and be competitive against top three. WI & NZ can be competitive against middle three and beat each other. Bang & Zimb can beat each other and both pushed WI/NZ recently. Ireland has been competitive against Bang & Zimb, so has Afgan, Holland and others. Its time for a two tier system, being top six and next six with four tests against each team every two years (eg: two home, two away = 2 months) + ODI & T20s that are scheduled in the gaps. With relegation every two years and ICup matches only lasting two years, all 106 teams in the world would have a chance to be number one in test cricket by winning matches, not by boardroom barganing.

  • FredElliot on January 3, 2013, 8:14 GMT

    A few misconceptions here. @Soso_killer -The D/L method was not in use in the 1992 World Cup. Another rule for recalculating targets in rain affected games was used.

    @whofriggingcares - the test in which Australia were all out for 47 was won by South Africa. Scores were Australia 284 and 47; South Africa 96 and 236/2. You are probably conflating the two tests in that series, the second of which was won by Australia.

  • wellrounded87 on January 3, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    Kind of off topic but i really think Australia South Africa and England need to have 5 match series every time they face each other in test cricket. I think these are the clear 1-3 in the world currently and to have them in 2 and 3 test series is not on. SA cricket administration needs to get their heads out of their nether regions and make this happen

  • Soso_killer on January 3, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    @EnglishCricket correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't the 1st world cup after SA were banned from playing international cricket?

    Our 1st world cup was in 1992 in Australia, we should have won it if it was not for the ridiculous D/L method, 22 runs in 1 ball? What a joke

    What 80 years are you talking about? There is only one team you should mention thats England. They have been playing cricket since 18 000 BC and have nothing to show for it.

    They have been dominated in the Ashes since they began (i read somewhere that Aus have won 80% of them), what rivalry? The best series in the world is anyone that includes South Africa in any conditions, period!! (history means nothing if 2 teams have never been equal in terms of talent). No one has scored 10 000 runs despite never being isolated, no 400 wickets club. I could go on and on.

    The irony is we keep on complaining about how terrible Indian bowlers are. *SMH*

  • CricketFirstLove on January 3, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    Reminds me how India was once shot out at 42 in England with Gavaskar and Wadekar and co. batting.Wonder how that was.

  • Greatest_Game on January 3, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    OzWally - I unreservedly apologise. I read your post on a beat up cell phone, a few lines at a time, & as I have several times seen the claim that SA was 9 for 47, as opposed to losing 9 for 47, I did jump to a conclusion and misrepresent what you wrote. I am duly eating my humble pie!

    What I really have to apologize for is confusing you with Marcio - now that was just not fair! At least I did not confuse you with Front-Foot-Dunce - those would have been fighting words!

    To avoid misinterpretation, the safe way I characterise games is to quote the complete figures: i.e. At Newlands, Aus lost 20 for 331, and SA 12 for 332. Or, Aus averaged 16.55 per wicket, and SA averaged 27.66 per wicket. To show how partial figures can mislead, in Brisbane, Aus were 3 for 40, but averaged 113 per wicket. SA (1st inns) were 4 for 374, but for the match averaged a comparatively paltry 41 per wicket. In Adelaide, Aus averaged 45.39 per wicket, & SA 35.33!

    Hope that NZ improve on 4.5 per wicket!

  • philipm3 on January 3, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    @Khasrul Kabir - Good post but for one thing; you mention the number of times Aus/England etc appear in the list of low scores, but fail to mention that those two countries have played far more games than the rest of the nations, and tellingly, many times more games on uncovered wickets in the 19th century - where sub 100 scores were commonplace. So, while interesting, the list says almost nothing about the relative quality of each nation. Yes, Bangladesh appear only once - but they've played 75 tests versus England's 930! A more pertinent stat in Bangladesh's case is their losing 87% of those tests. I guess the point of your first list is if you want to see a really low score in the modern era, then you should probably watch SA!

  • Todd89 on January 3, 2013, 5:22 GMT

    @Joe De Pina - This is not a lesson between the gulf between the top tier nations and NZ but between the top two nations and the rest of the world. Aussies did the same not long ago, India looks more vulnerable than ever and only England seems to be the ones strong enough to win.

    In saying that NZ are ranked correctly but the gulf between them and Aus is not the problem as that is to be expected between the rankings but 1 and 2 are currently miles head of 3 and the rest.

  • gibbs.175 on January 3, 2013, 5:04 GMT

    Well done SA............but after Kallis s departure Smith should have sent ELGAR up there ...to make some there. but Smith POllock Boucher never supported to the youngsters...only HANSIE did that........anyway good luck

  • ygkd on January 3, 2013, 4:06 GMT

    There is a lesson in this for Australia. The South African pace attack of Steyn, Morkel and Philander is an exceptionally good one because it is varied, not on the basis of being left-handed or right-handed or young and old, but on height and style alone. The Australian way, increasingly however, is to add the very tall and young to their pace-bowling stocks, on rotation. Jackson Bird was an exception on age, his debut coming at the same age Philander's did (at 26), but Bird was no exception on height, being well over 6'. South Africa shows that there is another path to go down, one which is not fixated on tallness, left-handedness, youth or rotation. Following that path has helped lead them to the Number one Test ranking. I except that they will remain there for quite some time to come.

  • on January 3, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    SurelyCynic, you are right, a more recent years comparison are the following

    Australia 47 18 9-Nov-11 Zimbabwe 51 28.5 26-Jan-12 South Africa 58 26.1 10-Jun-12 Bangladesh 62 25.2 3-Jul-07 Pakistan 72 39.3 6-Aug-10 Sri Lanka 73 24.5 3-Apr-06 India 75 30.5 25-Nov-87

    But then, a bad score is a bad score, (both the teams played on the same pitch!

    And I could not help noticing the number of the times in the list, the names were mentioned for lowest score!

    Australia 19 English 19 India 7 NewZeland 15 Pakistan 8 S.Africa 12 Sri Lanka 2 West Indies 8 Zimbabwe 5

    Bangladesh 1

  • The_bowlers_Holding on January 3, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    kc69 on (January 02 2013, 14:17 PM GMT) I am not an authority but I am pretty sure that Dennis Lillee is a chain rattler and not a New Zealander.

  • grug76 on January 3, 2013, 2:36 GMT

    @C.A-SA1987... I am by no means a Philander hater or basher, merely pointing out that he needs to prove himself over a long period of time in all conditions before people start getting too carried away with how good he is... I agree he has had an amazing start to his career, but I also think that his success has to do with Steyn and Morkel... The opposition spend so much time worrying about the threat they pose and they relax when Philander comes on and he cashes in by bowling a disciplined line and length with a bit of movement... A bit like Max Walker's success when he bowled with Lillee and Thomson

  • Shan156 on January 3, 2013, 2:11 GMT

    @Salman Zafar, England have won more ODI games than they have lost against Pakistan since 1980. So, how is it that Pakistan hold the upper hand over England in ODIs? Even if you take recent history, since 2000, England have won more games than they have lost against Pakistan in both tests and ODIs. In tests, we are superior at home and you are superior at your home and home away from home (UAE). It is even stevens I would say.

  • Wallaroo on January 3, 2013, 0:44 GMT

    @OzWally - Population counts are irrelevant in this instance. You can't compare population counts of first world with third world countries, the demographics are vastly different.

    We live in a first world country where population counts are relevant because 99% of our population can afford to participate in sports and more importantly afford the training. In 3rd world countries this may only be true for a small % of the population and unless you have the stats it becomes a mute point.

  • whofriggincares on January 3, 2013, 0:37 GMT

    @frontFL , we will see how close NZ are to the aussies .I am pretty sure Australia won the test after being bowled out for 47, wonder if the Kiwis will? I guess this is what you get when you rule the cricket world for so so long . people like FFL and TTsaffa dedicate their lives to trolling for comments. You would think with the amount of time they spend trying to get a bite they would stumble across a comment with some meaning at some stage. Get a life lads , very sad.

  • Shan156 on January 3, 2013, 0:28 GMT

    @Taimur Huk, if the reason we beat India was because the stars were aligned right, then the reason we lost to Pak. in UAE was because the stars were not aligned right. That sounds inane and it is. You beat us fair and square in UAE but till you beat good teams in their backyard like England have, you would not be considered better than England. We beat Aus, Ind, and NZ away and drew with SL and RSA. You lost to SL recently. Pak. is a good team and were deserving winners against England. England were deserving winners against India. The ICC ranks us #2 and you at #4. That sounds right. Personal opinions may vary, but honestly, the ICC ranking is what matters.

  • Shan156 on January 2, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    @Taimur Huk, not really, we won the test (3-1), ODI (3-2), and T20 (2-0) series in England against Pakistan. We also won the ODI (4-0) and T20 (2-1) series in UAE against Pakistan. Sure, we lost the test series 0-3 in UAE and well played to you for that but based on these recent results between these teams home and away, how could you say Pakistan is better than England? England have dominated the limited overs format and won the test series at home. We also have series wins in India and Australia. When was the last time you won a test in Australia?

  • CustomKid on January 2, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    Wow that is a whooping of mass proportions.

    Is there a mercy rule in cricket like baseball? Maybe the saffas can show a little aussie spirit and bowl a few under arm deliveries to let them back in the game? That said the state the kiwis are in they might struggle to hit those of the square.

  • Shan156 on January 2, 2013, 23:51 GMT

    @Salman Zafar, yes Pakistan has won more than they lost against England since 1980 but tell you what, we won more recently in your country (2000-2001) than you won in ours (1996). Our record against all teams since 2000 is also superior to your's. When was the last time you won a test in Australia? We won there 3-1 in 2010-2011. We also are undefeated in a series in SA since 1999-2000. We have series wins in all countries since 2000. Australia is the only other team which can boast of that. Based on overall record, since 2000, England have been clearly superior to Pakistan in test matches.

  • PFEL on January 2, 2013, 23:48 GMT

    @ Soso_killer, just going by what i've seen, rather than statistics skewed by helpful conditions. To be honest I would rate Jackson Bird, Aus quick in his 2nd test, ahead of Philander, from what i've seen

  • on January 2, 2013, 23:30 GMT

    Oh dear. Doesn't bode well for NZ cricket.

  • BG4cricket on January 2, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    What an abject debacle from a very sorry team !! Seriously NZ cricket needs to wake up to itself - they have very few talented international standard players - maybe Southee, Taylor & Baz - creating a situation where you alienate your best player & captain from such a series & look at the result ! This team is getting worse by the series and change must come for the sake of world cricket - Buchanan & the useless coach MUST go and it is only fair they are followers by the Chairman of Selectors & CEO of Cricket NZ who were party to & approved such nonsense.

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 23:20 GMT

    And did I enjoy the win over SL by only taking 7 wickets? Not really. I'd much rather see a close game. But what were we supposed to do, let them bat a 3rd time? We could still have enforced the follow-on, they were that far behind.

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    @Soso_killer - Wow, a whole post condemning me for things I've never ever said. The whole reason for bringing up the 47 run thing was because of an earlier post saying NZ's effort was the same as ours. I was merely pointing out the differences between the 2 games, 2 teams losing 19 wickets for 94 in the same day isn't exactly the same as 1 making 45 and the other 3/252. Make sense?

    And regarding your other posts, yes, I'm an Australian fan, but I'm also realistic. We had the upper hand in both the 1st 2 tests and should have won both. Obviously in Brisbane, you missed Duminy tremendously and a draw (through weather) was a fair result. 2nd Test we got lucky with the Philander injury (though he didn't really set the world on fire in the 1st), you lost Kallis for bowling, but he batted tremendously & even though we lost Pattinson, we still should have had enough firepower to win.

    I said at the time we'd missed our opportunity to knock out the #1 side, and it showed. Fair enough?

  • nzforever on January 2, 2013, 23:13 GMT

    Philander 3 times a many wickets as Bracewell in one less test ??????? Bracewell 43 from 14tests Philander 72 from 13tests

  • RednWhiteArmy on January 2, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    @Salman Zafar But we beat you comfortably last time we played in England. Maybe if your boys stopped throwing games you could be better.

  • EnglishCricket on January 2, 2013, 23:00 GMT

    @Salman Zafar - Dude! 87,77,95 these were a long time ago, yes Pakistan beat England here and there but I'm talking about overall series win in the last 12 years in any format. You were lucky to beat us 3-0 in UAE because we didn't prepare as much and our players came back from a huge break and that 4-0 ODI series win over your team was proof that we lacked enough practice in the test series otherwise it would've been 3-0 to England so you were lucky basically. But South Africa will show Pakistan where they really belong soon.

  • Mitch1066 on January 2, 2013, 22:59 GMT

    I want clarify to Pakistani fans out there four things why Pakistanis beat England 1 we failed prepare correctly 2 we under estimated Pakistan bowlers 3 your world class spinner 4 brittle batting . I don't think South Africans will be as easy knock over for Pakistan as England were. I do think though if South Africa had second run making machine as opener you be untouchable don't get me wrong smithy pietersen amala de villiers du p etc are epic and by rights best side in world

  • nzforever on January 2, 2013, 22:49 GMT

    We need to replace Mike Hesson and John Buchanan with John Wright and Martin Crowe in charge of coaching and admin. Chris Martin James Franklin Rob Nicol Doug Bracewell (back into 1st class cricket to regain confidence) should be discarded from any forms of international cricket. MacCullum Guptill Fynn must be told to perform or go. We can't do any worse than give any of the Cachopa brothers a chance try Rutherford as opener Kitchen in ODI's and stick with Milne and MacClengahan as well as Todd Astle in the bowling department.

  • Mitch1066 on January 2, 2013, 22:42 GMT

    Right I'm going put this out in field for you posters out there, lets wait and see who comes out top between Pakistan and South Africa . But I truly believe South Africa got best bowlers in world morkel steyn philander imagine if you put beat spinner in world ajmal in that bowling side that be epic .south Africa got best batting side aswel. Only thing Pakistan has is best spinner in world . Plus not sure how well Pakistani do outside there own yard to comment. New Zealand are struggling at minute seams many teams in transitions like New Zealand Australia India England South Africa seam be only one who team at there top . Well done South Africa you are truly showing your class above the rest

  • landl47 on January 2, 2013, 22:37 GMT

    I'm feeling NZ's pain. With the smallest population of any test-playing country, they have to have their best XI playing in order to be competitive. This isn't close to NZ's best side.

    Having said that, a superb and clinically efficient job by SA. I can't remember another test in which one side led the other by such a big margin after one day. They played like the #1 side they are.

  • on January 2, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    Aussie fans are so funny. Its like they completely forgot about the injury to Duminy in the first test, a test in which he was supposed to bowl a significant amount of overs and contribute close to 50 in each of his innings. He bowled 0 overs and scored 0 runs due to being injured, which in turn had a SIGNIFICANT impact on SA's performance. The bowlers were overused because there was no spinner (i.e. Duminy) and everyone had to take on extra duties in his absence.

    Then for the 2nd test SA gets unlucky and Philander is injured the morning of the test, to be replaced by Kleinveldt. Steyn was injured for a portion of one of the tests, as was Jacques Kallis. And Australia fans are complaining about injuries?

    The series was in Australia. All SA needed was to draw. They did that.

  • on January 2, 2013, 22:24 GMT

    @ EnglishCricket! Lol!We beat u in ur backyard in three consecutive series in 1987,1992,1996. In 2005, when u won the ashes, we beat u 2-0. Now, when u were no.1, we beat u 3-0. So u can see for urself, who beats who most of the times. Since 1980, Pakistan has had upper hand over england in tests and odis. I know it may be hard for u to digest, but it is the truth.

  • Soso_killer on January 2, 2013, 22:17 GMT

    @OzWally lol, i just love how you Australians cheer yourselves up. SA posted 90 odd, wether they lost 9-47 is irrelevant, we did not loose 10 wickets for 47 runs, end of story!!

    You must be one of those Ausies screaming about how Australia "dominated" SA even though they could not take 20 wickets in a single match in Australia. On top of that you moan about injuries as if SA had none, i love how you guys play the victim card.

    Tell me did you want to win a test match by taking 7 wickets like you did against Sri Lanka? Shame, I mean after all Kallis, Steyn JP, Vern were all injured at one stage right? SA were unfair right they should have rolled over and play dead

    South Africa were also unfair by playing with eleven man in the 3rd test. Poor Australia they were robbed.

  • C.A-SA1987 on January 2, 2013, 22:14 GMT

    To all Philander haters, please consider the following simple question before you start bashing:

    If Vern is only able to take wickets in "helpful" conditions, please explain his ridiculous success in recent times relative to other bowlers in his team/opposition under said similar conditions?

    Could it perhaps be that he is just a fantastic technician of seam bowling? His success streams from the fact that he has simplified bowling and become highly disciplined at the basics.

    He has shown great patience and tends to go past the bat more often than most. He is dangerous with old ball and new ball alike and has been known to take wickets when we need it (Strauss and Cook late on 4th evening at Lords, and Warner on 4th morning at Perth).

    He is a captains dream.

    He would STROLL into any test team right now... the opposition fans may disagree, but i'm sure that any coach would gladly welcome him in.

  • Jayzuz on January 2, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    ... BTW, that's not to suggest SA doesn't deserve their #1 status (they do, based on performances). I just don't see that they are far above some other teams. You don''t get truly dominant teams being thrashed around regularly like we saw on the recent SA tour to Australia.

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 22:00 GMT

    @Greatest_Game - I never said they were 9/47, I said they LOST 9 for 47 - at one stage they were 1/49 (as you stated) and were bowled out for 96. That means they LOST 9/47. Okay?

    So both I and Marcio are correct. I'll be awaiting an apology, flowers aren't necessary. :)

  • on January 2, 2013, 21:59 GMT

    @English Cricket-taking solace in an ODI series win. lol ok Pommy.

  • Glenn10 on January 2, 2013, 21:59 GMT

    What a debacle! I thought NZ would get thrashed, but not murdered and diced into pieces. I would go as far as to say, possibly the worst day NZcricket history. Half the team are not the best players we can put in there right now: Munro, McClenaghan, Ronchi, Milne, and Bruce Martin would be way better bets than Brownlie, Flynn. Franklin, C Martin and Patel. Thats almost half the team you could argue aren't up to it. Look at the first class stats of all these proposed players and test records of the incumbents and tell me I'm wrong. Enough is enough! Sack the selectors. They couldn't pick an argument.

  • Jayzuz on January 2, 2013, 21:55 GMT

    @Shan156, it cannot be said that SA are 'way ahead of the rest". They drew with Australia at home and were very fortunate to beat them in Australia, when Australia were giving them the run around for most of the series - before injury meltdowns and mass replacements. Australia have also had the better of SA in other formats recently, which suggests their cricketing strength is roughly on par with SA's.

  • on January 2, 2013, 21:52 GMT

    Can someone please tell me why R Taylor is not playing?Is he injured,dropped or self imposed exile for losing captaincy.

  • on January 2, 2013, 21:44 GMT

    @The_Ashes. The ftp however, whilst guaranteeing games does not guarantee GOOD games: & based on many posters on this site, test cricket is 'dying'. Well I can assure you it is not, but will if frequent mismatches occur. I'm sure that as a child you have either doled or or received a 10 wickets win/loss, a 10-0 thrashing at soccer or hocket, a 50-0 game of rugby. In any case, it's not really enjoyment to be on the winning or losing side. A tiered system, with gaps for non-Championship games, surely would be better. Only the results amongst those sides in your Division count over a two year period. Promotion of top team Div 2 / Relegation bottom of Div 1, Playoff between 2nd Div 2 and 4th of Div 1. A proper championship where everyone knows categorically who is best. However, as has been pointed out, the Test Championship was abandoned by the BCCI-dominated ICC - and I suppose it will be impossible to change their minds. Just because India don't like it doesn't make it wrong (?DRS)

  • Jayzuz on January 2, 2013, 21:42 GMT

    @grug76, actually SA lost their last nine wickets for 49 (not 47) that day. So clearly it was a superior performance to Australia's. ;-) I seem to recall Shane Watson wrought havoc that day, a bowler of similar pace and style to Philander, and I don't think that is a coincidence.

  • EnglishCricket on January 2, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    Its silly comparing Pakistan to Aus, Saf and Eng because they beat you in a series most of the time. Probably in Asia Pakistan is the best but not in the world. Also your team is a lot lot older compared to any other so you won't have as much strength soon. To the person that replied to me, yeah you may have beaten us 3-0 but after that test series who beat you 4-0 in that one-day series? hope you can come to your senses now.

  • Jayzuz on January 2, 2013, 21:38 GMT

    NZ appear to be very weak at present. They got done by SL recently, and SL are going through their own tough time. The good news is that horror performances are rarely repeated in close succession, and quite often are followed by good performances. As for creating two divisions in test cricket, that is just silly. It takes more than a couple of bad games to suddenly send a team to purgatory. SA were beaten at home by SL a year ago.They have a relatively poor home record. Should we assign them a second division home status? I didn't see this game, but I confess to being puzzled as to how how Philander can take 5-7, after seeing him play in several away games in England and Australia in the past six months or so where at times he couldn't buy a wicket to save his life. I remember Michael Clarke's comments about the Newlands pitch immediately after he'd scored 150 there a year ago. He said it was the most two-faced pitch he'd ever played on, great when sunny, treacherous when cloudy.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    Why are there so many comments about Bangladesh on the SA-NZ cricket article? I'm sure there is a Bangladesh section on Cricinfo where you can all talk about how great Shakib is and reminisce over magnificent wins against Zimbabwe.

  • TheRisingTeam on January 2, 2013, 21:36 GMT

    @corzaNZ...ah! New Zealand! New Zealand! not only their team has gone downhill but they have a pathetic youth system compared to us the future stars of Cricket. But you will know for yourself what us Bangla fans have been talking about from now to the next 3 years till then enjoy the little moments you have left. Millions and Millions supporters are right behind our team unlike yours :)

  • Shan156 on January 2, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    @Dhumper, dream on. What makes you think Pak. is the second best team in world cricket? SA surely are way ahead of the pack but if Pak. can be called the second best team just because they beat England 3-0 in UAE, then Eng. can rightfully claim it is the second best team based on their performances against India in India and Australia in Australia. We drew with SL while you lost. In fact, the ICC ranks them #2. So, England is the incumbent #2 but I admit they are not way ahead of others - Aus. and Pak. are contenders but until Pak. also strings together a few away wins, they can't be considered #2.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 2, 2013, 21:28 GMT

    @ BravoBravo on (January 02 2013, 20:50 PM GMT) Not a bad idea, although my tiers would be tests for SA, ENG, AUS, WI with SL PAK, and India to fight out the 5th spot as they only win at home, 50 overs for SA, ENG, AUS, WI, NZ, PAK, IND, SL, BD, WITH THE WINNER OF THE WORLD CUP PROMOTED TO TESTS IF NOT ALREADY THERE. T20 for Canada, Ireland, Zim, and other qualifiers, with the winner promoted to 50 over tournaments.

  • Lermy on January 2, 2013, 21:28 GMT

    Wow, i started out hoping NZ would compete, and ended up hoping SA would knock them over for less than 26 and set a new low score record. Compelling first session. Like a train smash, you just can't look away. Now that SA front line team is out there, NZ are like ducks in a shooting gallery, possums caught in the headlights, with nowhere to run or hide. What a pity SA didn't have the sheer guts and arrogance to forfeit their first innings and put NZ straight back in. Does anyone think NZ would have batted any better second time around? The scary thing is SA didn't even look like they were trying. I really believe this test could have been finished in one day with a concerted effort. This is obviously the answer to player burn-out for SA. Just play NZ more often! Amazing stuff!!!

  • grug76 on January 2, 2013, 21:24 GMT

    @FFL... if Philander is the amazingly brilliant wonder bowler that you and others keep raving about then surely he would be able to take bags of wickets on any kind of surface, much like legendary fast bowlers such as McGrath, Walsh, Hadlee, Akram, Ambrose, Dev, et al... To me he looks like a younger version of Gordon from Sesame Street whose stats have been boosted by helpful conditions in South Africa, England and New Zealand

  • AzAb12754 on January 2, 2013, 21:20 GMT

    @corzaNZ - also yeah you play all year and always lose more than 90% of the time now lool!!!

  • AzAb12754 on January 2, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    @corzaNZ - You can talk, instead of worrying about our team worry about your new minnow team. Cricket is not as popular as it once was in New Zealand while our Cricket is growing in popularity. A country that had full status in 1926 and still playing the same old same says it all times are of course changing so get I'd use to it before it gets to you :P

  • grug76 on January 2, 2013, 21:16 GMT

    @Greatest Game... I'm afraid you (and the NZ batsmen) are the ones who embarrassed themselves. OzWally said " same day Australia made 47, SA lost 9-47 themselves", he did not say that SA were 9-47. I followed your advice and looked up the scorecard and SA were 1-49 before being all out for 96, meaning SA lost 9-47 during that innings. Maybe you should get your facts straight.

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    @corzaNZ:- Sour grapes? our future in Cricket is fantastic compared to your declining team but don't worry because another banglawash will be coming for you so we can shut you up and show where you belong now. Bangladesh Cricket is growing, your Cricket is shrinking. If we can beat India, Sri Lanka and New Zealand then New Zealand should be manageable good luck! :D

  • pie314 on January 2, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    @Greatest_Game - Ozwally said SA lost 9 wickets for 47. As a cricket supporter, you should know that this is different from being 9-47. It may be advisable for you to learn to read and comprehend what others have written. I'm sure that in this day and age, there is adequate schooling for this in whatever country you are from, so there is no excuse not to.

    That being said, great performance from the underrated Philander.

  • Sasnz on January 2, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    Oh the backlash is gonna be huge back home(NZ).....The boys looking after the boys at NZC are going to be gettin g nervous soon.

  • BravoBravo on January 2, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    What a mismatch. I am in agreement of creating a tier system in Test matches. The tier system include factors such as over all WIN to LOSS ratio, number of whitewashes and recent performances. Tier 1: SA, ENG, PAK, Tier 2: AUS, WI, SL and Tier 3: NZ, IND, BD, ZIM I will put SL in Tier 2 as they are the least whitewashed team as compared to other teams of Tier 3. Considering the NZ and IND (most whitewashed team) poor performance for last 80 years, they must be in the bottom tier, it should be sort of warning before stripping them off of Test status. Tier 3 teams must play with associate nations regularly to be competitive, a loss against associtae nations should result in loosing their test status, and awarding associate teams as full test status. Just a comment about BB McCullum: This man play one inning of substance in a year in all format combined, and then fails. He is not by any chance a Test material. He is just an IPL material nothing else.

  • corzaNZ on January 2, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    @Warm_Coffee is this all you do all day is sit on this and talk up Bangladesh, cant wait for the next international game Bangladesh play and hope you get rolled to keep you quiet, but yeah you don't play all year lol

  • Cric_info_pak on January 2, 2013, 20:44 GMT

    india , newzealand , and india should play test match with each other, three teams equally match

  • kc69 on January 2, 2013, 20:44 GMT

    I believe it will be a long festive season for SA bowlers as Pakistan(Feb) and India(Dates not yet finalized) will be touring SA this year.With this kind of pace attack expect loads and loads of wickets.Our subcontinental batsmen will be sitting ducks(Thank god SL will not be touring SA this year)

  • on January 2, 2013, 20:40 GMT

    Steady on, everyone. South Africa - and in particular Vernon Philander - were fantastic today! And New Zealand were woeful. But it was just one session of cricket. Don't forget that this bowling attack did the same to the Aussies a year ago. Now, I'm not suggesting that New Zealand are at the same level as the Aussies, we know they aren't. But I don't think we should be writing about vast gulfs and rock bottom quite yet. Let's wait until the two tests are complete. Maybe New Zealand really are that far behind South Africa, but maybe they aren't. Maybe they are quilty as charged, I just don't think we should be condemning on the evidence of a single disastrous morning.

  • dalboy12 on January 2, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Calls for two tier system are way of the mark --- SA did this to Aussie not that long ago and surely Aussie would be in the top tier. When SA get it right they are pretty unplayable, apart from a few tail enders its not like the Black Caps got out playing bad shots, they were got out by great balls. I hope the Black Caps do really fight it out --- if for nothing else other than future tours and the SA public deserve to see a fight and good crowds at their games

  • Stark62 on January 2, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    @ EnglishCricket "Pakistan does not deserve to be compared to the 3 big teams (Aus, SA and Eng)", really?!?!

    Correct if I'm wrong but.........SA and Eng have NEVER won the WC and probably never will, meaning Eng and SA don't deserve to be compared to the 3 big teams WI, Pak and Ind.

    Also, Aus have never won the T20 WC, hence they don't deserve to be compared to the 3 big teams WI, Pak and Ind.

  • Mervo on January 2, 2013, 20:23 GMT

    Really one has to question whether NZ and Bangladesh and Zimbabwe should have Test cricket status, or at least there should be two Divisions, as in football. Philander was quite innocuous in Australia and is a good 'home' wicket bowler. However, it was great to see fast bowlers in action, swinging the ball and bowling fast. After so many weeks of having to watch boring 'donkey drop' spin bowling day in and out in the India-England series, it was a nice change.

  • Greatest_Game on January 2, 2013, 20:21 GMT

    @Ozwally. This is Crinfo. Any reader can in a matter of minutes look up the results of any international match. I suggest you try this so that you do not continue to embarrass yourself as you have today.

    In the Nov 9, 2012 test at Newlands, test number 2016, the game in which Australia were bundled out for 47, South Africa were NEVER 9 for 47. That is a myth perpetuated by you and the troll Marcio I'm beginning to think that you are one and the same as you both repeat this basic, dumb, easily checked mistake.

    SA were 2 for 49, then 3 for 49. They were 9 for 83, but they were NEVER 9 for 47. Following is IP of the Cricinfo archive of the match scorecard. Check for yourself. And in future, before you make such assertions, take the few minutes to check the records. It may prevent your appearing to be either ignorant, or a bare liar, for such are the assumptions readers make when presented with such falsehoods. http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/514029.html

  • shovwar on January 2, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    @ LILLIANTHOMPSON. This vernon performance should be dedicated to u. LOL. But wait this Vernon performance was against a mediocre team, so nothing special.

  • The_Ashes on January 2, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    ha! tier systems won't work instead what can be done is to abide to the ftp rule with all fairness for every full member whether top or low to play eachother on home and away bases. But when weaker teams like New Zealand, Zimbabwe etc tour countries like England, Australia play in a one-off test match maximum 2, Sri Lanka v Zimbabwe 3 test matches between them and bigger teams i.e. South v England can play in 4/5 test match series. These are just examples which gives every team despite the strengths a chance.

  • AK47_pk on January 2, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    Forget about tier system. Top 6 shud play regularly each other nd rest shud be asked to play associates. Bangla failed to justify there test status so their test status shud be d3bated in next icc meeting. Personaly I think newzeeland nd bangla shud be given rest for atleast 5 years.

  • Cricket_fan85 on January 2, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    45 all out .. Kiwis.. you are a bunch of jokers over there in SA.. I am sorry to say this but you really are on your way to loose test status .. poor you.. test matches needs good crowd now , you cannot play like this and kill the interests of spectators .. sense less selection from NZC .. with out Taylor , Southee and Vettori , you guys are lost in a country where you need techique, patience and application to even stand there and score 250.. McCallum is not a test player he is a slogger ... god save newzealand cricket

  • on January 2, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    my son will play for NZ, as he has no chance with the current SA system. This has been explained to him in depth. His biggest dream is to play for the proteas, and I have explained to him at length, him being thirteen, that youe chances of playing for your national side, are not as good as playing for any other test playing nation. There are so many players fighting to get in for the next 5 years, focus on another country.

  • gothetaniwha on January 2, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    We deserved all this , this is what get when u take on the No 1 team without your two best batsmen .Should have bowl first and Mc Clengagan and Wagner should have played .Martin and Patel 0-100 and climbing , can't see a spinner in SA team so why play a spinner . Hessen , Mc Cullum and the NZ board have to be held accountable for this .

  • on January 2, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    Good luck Kiwi new year. Good luck this match.

  • on January 2, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    @Ahmed Hussein-the only reason that PCB asked BCB to tour our country was because we couldn't find any other country to tour us so we went to the last resort. We just wanted to show the international cricket community that we could host a series. We knew we would wallop Bangladesh in all matches in all formats. Once we successfully hosted Bangladesh, we could move on to better and worthy teams.

  • rickyvoncanterbury on January 2, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    i can tell that the SA supporters are on top of the world with no paranoia at all, thats why the word Australia appears 157 times in these conversations about a game between SA V NZ.

  • on January 2, 2013, 19:37 GMT

    @English Cricket-you were pretty fortunate to beat a declining Indian side in India. Pakistan would have fancied their chances of a 3-1 win or a 4-0 whitewash too. The stars were aligned for you in that particular series. Indian spinners lacked pace and variation, Indian batsmen were struggling, Rahul and VVS had retired, etc. And talking about "favorable surfaces", you guys lost to South Africa on your home pitches 2-0 last summer. So the favorable surfaces argument doesn't hold. The only reason I can find for your reluctance to accept Pakistan as a first-tier team is prejudice and which part of the world we come from.

  • kiwicricketnut on January 2, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    That was the best display of bowling i have seen, when conditions suit philander is simply unplayable. Even though i knew we would loose, im such a tragic i actually thought we might compete but the gulf in class is just too massive. All this rubbish of stripping test status from nz has to stop that wont help world cricket at all if only the elite play tests we are ranked 8th not 18th. We were a good not great but good test nation not that long ago we can get there again but our batsman need to relise they are not test standard go home or abroad and work like they never have before and sort out their short comings, it seems other teams batters get better during their carrears ours stay the same, are we uncoachable?

  • on January 2, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    Tier systems won't work in Cricket and countries like India and its major allies will obviously object to it, its too late to have such a system in place...@Taimur...it looks like you Pakistanis are still made about that tour rejection, first sort out your country then start thinking of hosting, the Pakistan team is old and will go through a big transition you will see.

  • JamKam on January 2, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    A Perfect day for SA-Bowling,Fielding,Batting.

  • CricketingStargazer on January 2, 2013, 19:18 GMT

    @Naf Akbar I think that 2 dvisions of 6 is more realistic. It allows less repetition of series. However, would sides like the West Indies be happy to have to renounce series against England and Australia? How will the finanaces of New Zealand and Caribbean cricket be affected by a diet of just playing Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and Afghanistan?

  • RameshRayaprolu on January 2, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    This was bound to happen. Firstly, NZ is missing on its good test players. Second, even though they bring back their top notch test player(s), NZ did not seem to be a good test playing team in the recent past.

    Now, NZ competing with world test champs in their home soil is not going to be good for them at least !!

    My deepest condolences to NZ team, and wish they can show a decent fight in their upcoming games in SA.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    I don't feel sorry for the Kiwis, I feel sorry for Peterson and Kallis as they didn't get a chance to bowl one ball.

  • EnglishCricket on January 2, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    People talk about tier systems which I feel is ridiculous and won't work in this day and age and such a system should been in place about 20/30 years ago when Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe got their test status. Neither New Zealand nor South Africa despite playing Cricket for more than 80 years have still not won a world cup but does that mean they shouldn't play in the world cup? of course not. Winning and losing is part of the game.

  • Expat2 on January 2, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    Apart from a managment coaching overhaul,NZ might want to blood young players like Bronson Meehan.Why is Neil Wagner not in the team. He is the #1 wicket taker in NZ.Ecven with Taylor in the team,they would not have done better.:Philander was devastating.The Saffas are definitely #1 allround.

  • EnglishCricket on January 2, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    @Taimur Huk - Why are you comparing Pakistan to England, South Africa and Australia? yes you beat us in UAE 3-0 but these were on your favourite surfaces and England just beaten India. When your team toured to England in 2010, your team got thrashed 3-1 and still despite playing Test Cricket for over 50 years, Pakistan have still not won a test series against Australia in Australia. So Pakistan does not deserve to be compared to the 3 big teams based on these statistics.

  • on January 2, 2013, 19:01 GMT

    @Warm Coffee: I don't think Bangladesh belongs in the third tier even. New Zealand are still a cut above Bangladesh despite their recent struggles. I think BD should go back to being an Associate level team. Your record in Test cricket speaks for itself. 3 wins, 3 draws, and 67 defeats. The reason you don't get enough cricket is because no one wants to play you guys on a regular basis. And you know why that is? Because they don't find you guys worth the time to play as your team is no better than a club-level team in their countries. If you guys had started putting up a fight in your earlier Test matches, you might have achieved a more respectable record in that format. But every Test match you guys lose reinforces the belief that you guys are not cut out for this level. Next time, don't be shameless enough to ask Pakistan to bail you out; you're on your own from now on.

  • THE_MIZ on January 2, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    It makes me laugh to think that before the series some NZ fans were talking about Petersen as the weak link in the line-up. Well played Petersen on the supposedly 'doctored' pitch!haha!

  • cricketlover111 on January 2, 2013, 18:59 GMT

    Just an embarrassing day to be a NZ fan. Shame on NZ circket administrators,coaching staff and Board for not doing everything possible to get our best players to South Africa!

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @Taimur Huk...First of all behave sensibly I was replying to you because you had a problem with that other post of mine so if you don't like it then you should just ignore it and respect other people's view instead of criticising its my view and I still stand by it. Don't care if you don't like it fine just move on cheers!

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa - I probably typed too fast for you to keep up the last time so I'll type slower this time. Yes, 47 was embarrassing, probably even worse than losing 9-47 the same day. And I don't know how we tied that series 1-1, we were sooo lucky. I also noticed you lost a test to Sri Lanka at home after that, they must be incredibly good, I'm really worried about our upcoming series with them.....oh, wait.

  • creekeetman on January 2, 2013, 18:47 GMT

    time for NZ to be put into a second division test league... along with the likes of Zim, B'desh, Sri lanka, Kenya and perhaps Ireland, and leave a top division with Aus, WI, SA, England, India and Pak. every year or two the top team in div 2 goes up, and the bottom team in div 1 goes down. this would greatly reduce rubbish tests such as this and those in the series between Aus/SL.

  • Htc-Android on January 2, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    @Narbavi. Dont forget you team is playing a test series in SA next year. Thats also without dravid and laxman. lets see wat ur team can do.

  • Htc-Android on January 2, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    I can see some funny comments posted by Bangladeshi fans saying that they will do better than nz if they play more test matches. The fact is they played 75 test matches in the past 12 years( at an average of 6 tests pers year) and they are still not able to draw a test match at home. Yes NZ are on a low in these days. but even when they are on a declining note they managed to win tests in Aus and SL. The reason is SA has a far superior bowling attack. Dont forget they bowled out AUS 47 and SL for 43. So please, tell ur bangladesh team to win a test match at home. Of course people will criticize Bangladesh, if they lose every single test match they play. even at home).

  • on January 2, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    As a cricket lover and SA fan, I am hoping that the Black Caps can get inspiration from their fearsome rugby counterparts very quickly. NZ cricket teams have never boasted mass individual quality in recent years (although Shane Bond was my fave bowler when he burst onto the scene), but they have always had serious fighting spirit. Perhaps the Ross Taylor issue, and/or lack of Vettori has somewhat dulled their temperaments. NZ batsmen are currently giving their wickets away - albeit great bowling from the World's no.1 Test Side. Still, Newlands was definitely not a 45 all-out pitch. McCullum wants to play assertive cricket, I get that, but surely this should be tamed down a bit on the morning of a day-1 test pitch? Perhaps assess things, show patience, wear down the 3 SA quickies - and then apply the necessary assertion? As a cricket lover, watching tightly contested test cricket is always first prize. Sure I want SA to win, but NZ are surely better than this first Test display.

  • on January 2, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    LOL. I'm safe. My Division 1 includes Pakistan

  • hhillbumper on January 2, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Did anyone else think this was like watching England bat in the old days

  • on January 2, 2013, 18:33 GMT

    its time for ICC to give TEST STATUS to Ireland and Afganistan and hve a three tier division system wit relegation and promotion....4 teams in each group....the top tier consists of Australia, Saffers, Poms and Pakistan... the second tier shud hve INDIA, WINDIES, NZ and SL and THIRD tier BD,IRE,ZIM and AFG.... dis is da best way our playrs will get more exposure and is a bettr way to make improve cricketing skills of da lower teams as dey can play regularly.... i am still in doubt wit AFG as dey dont hve a home ground... but wishing dere success in cricket.... no offense BD fans as i am a hardcore BD fan we need to accpt our team shud be focused on playin more tests rather dan da opposition dey face.... u dont need 2 acclimatize to test only playin wit big teams.... rotation for 4 yrs to play day test championship between da top two teams in da first tier lyk PLAYOFFS in NBA....TEST CRICKET IS WAY TO make CRICKET POPULAR T20 is a joke........um only 20 so not all young ppl r into t20's

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 18:33 GMT

    @Warm_Coffee - how do you not feel population is not relevant? If you had to find just 1 excellent person for anything (name it) would you rather have a pool of 10 to choose from or 1000? And thanks for bringing up India - with their population, they should dominate world cricket for forever and a day.

    And playing more Tests doesn't mean more victories - if your winning % is 1% - it will still be 1% no matter how much you play. I suppose at some point you will get better - which you appear to be doing in ODI's - but when will it translate to Tests?

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 2, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    NZ weren't that great today and big Vern was excellent. but at least kiwis weren't as bad as Oz when they were full strength and got rolled out for 47.(Should've been 29 but siddle and Lyon hung around)

  • on January 2, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    @Warm Coffee: "If Pakistan can beat South Africa in just 1 test match soon then I will happily to rate them as a tier 1 team."

    Ok, dude, first of all, worry about your own team winning ONE Test match, let alone a series. You guys couldn't even beat West Indies in your own backyard despite being in comfortable positions in both matches. In fact, you lost. Pakistan beat England 3-0 in a neutral venue because we're not allowed to play in our own country. And secondly, why would your opinion of Pakistan change if Pakistan beat them in just one match when Pakistan defeated the then NO.1 England 3-0?

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    @Taimur Huk: I was just being as honest as possible doesn't mean I'm right or anything just giving my fair view. If Pakistan can beat South Africa in just 1 test match soon then I will happily to rate them as a tier 1 team.

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    @FrontFootLunge - Nice try, but you seem to forget that same day Australia made 47, SA lost 9-47 themselves. Perhaps you missed that as you were researching how to spell "minnow" for your 2012 post fest.

  • on January 2, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    I feel real sorry for the supporters at Newlands who bought tickets for days four and five. This Test will be over by Friday (day 3) tea time. SA will bat the whole day Thursday and declare 45 minutes before stumps at about 475 ahead. NZ 25 for 3 by Thursday night, UNLESS the top order get their heads down and bat like Test batsmen. Hopefully B Mac, Guptill and Williamson do that and make a game of it...Well done, V Philander, he must be the top medium-pacer in the world at present.

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    @OzWally: Why are you bringing population into this? Does India ring any bells? Bangladesh play less than half the test matches New Zealand play otherwise we too would've won the same amount of tests probably a bit more than New Zealand. We're above them in the ODI table so :)

  • on January 2, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    @Warm Coffee: Perhaps you forgot that Pakistan whitewashed England 3-0 earlier this year. How do you explain a team in the 2nd tier, as you put them, whitewashing a 1st tier team? At least you had the sense to put your own Bangladesh team in its rightful place, 3rd tier.

  • on January 2, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    Pity that NZ got beaten so badly. Are we going to see a change in rankings? Bangladesh overtopping NZ?

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 2, 2013, 17:43 GMT

    Embarrassing for New Zealand but this goes to show how close they are to Australia, the Australians made 47 in recent history on this type of deck. Pity for Mccullum who was apparently unable to do a thing to stop the rot after Philander, back again playing on a pitch other than the flat pancakes of the type he got down under, shot out the entire top order with some quality bowling. Well bowled Vernon P.

  • on January 2, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    @Warm_cofee - I am not sure that separating "tiers" is a good idea. Yes, NZ is currently in a low right now, but hopefully it will turn things around. But if you categorize them as a tier 2 team and relegate them to play only other tier 2 teams, I doubt that they will break out of the funk. As a Tiger fan, I would love to see BD face the top teams too. @ZiggyMarley- well put dude! The pompous Aussies were brought down to their knees in their OWN back yard. And now that Hussey is gone, methinks that India will kill them in India. And I hope Eng humiliate them in the Ashes. But back to the game at hand - sorry state for NZ indeed. Ross, what have you done? Please comeback!

  • edgie on January 2, 2013, 17:40 GMT

    where is our kiwi "expert", lillian, surprisingly absent in her anaylsis, and pfel, shame, think u also need to change the channel u r watching from espn classic... u abviosuly not watching the same game, or even living in the same decade, sad...

  • OzWally on January 2, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Last time I checked, no one was talking about taking away BD's test status, just why are they not improving and why can't others (Ireland, etc.) be given a chance. Also, don't compare yourselves to NZ, as bad as NZ is at the moment, they still won more tests in 2012 than BD have in there history. And 1 more fact - NZ has a population of just 7 mil, BD 161 mil. Who do you think should more likely to come up with 11 that can play?

    That being said, what a horrible display by NZ. And how do you bat on that track when you're up against that bowling attack and you know your own weakness is batting. BMac should be sacked as Captain for that 1 decision alone.

  • hst84 on January 2, 2013, 17:35 GMT

    NZ has always remained predictable and off colored when they're in Test match mode and specially when playing abroad. The plain reason being their lack of technique, focus and temperament to work on foreign pitches and play with patience and temperament. Their team seems to be focused on ODI and T20 format and without any experience in their ranks, they are sure to get off the track on any playing pitch, let alone SA

  • TheRisingTeam on January 2, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    @Rahane-Fan:- I disagree with the improvement bit Bangladesh yes a weak team still but definitely they have improved and at this moment, we should look at this as a positive not because there are no quick fixes for weaker teams to become stronger teams. An unimproved Bangladesh don't give good tough games with the team above, minnows don't beat India, Sri Lanka and West Indies is the same year. However, I agree with you Bangladesh will be okay in limited overs but Test Cricket a long way off yet. Very few teams play test Cricket well anyway. What New Zealand did today in conditions similar to theirs is unacceptable and their recent record.

  • on January 2, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    If I was SA, I would have declared at 46, bowled NZ out again for less than 50, then chased the target down just after lunch on day 1 lol

  • on January 2, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    Sad day for NZ specifically, but also for competitive cricket. Unfortunately unlike the Australian 47 debacle, this is evidence of a more systemic failure in NZ cricket. How they move forward is one for far better minds than mine. However it has crystalised my thinking that Test Cricket should be split into two groups of 5, each playing each other home and away in 5 Test Series over 2 years, with promotion / relegation of the top side. 10 'League' Tests per country per year in Division 1, maybe 3 match series in Division 2. There would be sufficient time for short, say 2 match, 'non-Championship' tests to fit in around that. I leave the inevitable bickering as to whom should be the 5th team in Division 1 to the rest of the posters - personally I think West Indies are showing the most promise - but I leave it open

  • Captainman on January 2, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    With the exception of Bangladesh and Zimbabwe reason is because they haven't played enough test matches, since the beginning of 2010 till now, New Zealand have played 19 test matches winning only 2 which happens to be the worst amongst the elite. This is unacceptable because you usually see this from the minnows and I'm sorry too say New Zealand are a minnow now they're even below Bangladesh in the ODI table lucky they play more tests than them otherwise they would've ranked below them in tests also as well as T20 tables.

  • Captainman on January 2, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    No excuses for New Zealand and its fan, this wasn't a typical subcontinent pitch infact it was exactly like New Zealand pitches and conditions swing and seam. But it looked as though South Africa was using this match the first day as practice for the Pakistan series which should be a cracker btw. Ajmal v Amla is just one example....

  • ExtremeSpeed on January 2, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    Why aren't people talking about New Zealand test status? excluding Zim and Ban, they have by far the worst record of all the top 8 double standards indeed plus they play more than twice the test matches Zim and Ban play not fair :P

  • ExtremeSpeed on January 2, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    @Gupta.Ankur:- You also forgot West Indies where they lost to them away last year 2-0.

  • ExtremeSpeed on January 2, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    What's so good about the top 8 cricketing nations? I can't wait when New Zealand tour Bangladesh this year so we can give them another Banglawash but this also includes the test series forget about T20s, anyone can win those games. Can't believe New Zealand are going to be playing in the ICC Champions Trophy this year.

  • 30-30-150 on January 2, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    @Khasrul Kabir.. Well, how many Tests have BD actually played? 70 odd is my guess. How many have England played? 930!! By the time BD plays 930 Tests, the table would be upside down for sure LOL.

    @TheRisingTeam.. A couple of fair points you make.. but BD fans, in general, give the same excuse of "lack of matches" when their team fails in Tests and when the team loses T20s they say "T20 is anybody's game".. It has been 13 years and BD is showing very little signs of improvement. I do see BD becoming a good ODI side in the coming few years but certainly not better than NZ. And lets not take anything away from NZ on those two wins. They played brilliantly to win them. Even NZ have an inexperienced Test team.

  • InsideHedge on January 2, 2013, 17:01 GMT

    NZ are at a low point but in the last 12 months, despite their struggles, they've managed to score Test wins in Hobart, Australia and Colombo, SL. That's an amazing statistic. Even Sri Lanka managed their first win in South Africa against this same team/attack. It also proves that Test cricket is a lot healthier today than compared to the 70s when it was far more one-sided.

    Don't forget Australia narrowly avoided an all-time low score in South Africa last year, and then promptly won the next Test Match. This test is still in progress, so my message to all the kids who typically comment here is to wait till the match is over before typing away. It's called patience, and a dash of experience.

  • Gupta.Ankur on January 2, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    NZ just ask yourself.........are you a test side? or perhaps more relevant one would be to the batsmen....are you good enough for any 1st class team in england,australia,england, India?

    Answer to both would be no.

  • SamRoy on January 2, 2013, 16:55 GMT

    It is precisely the kind of test match I hate apart from the other stuff where 500 meets 600. It is a boxing match between 2 boxers, where 1 boxer knocks out the other in every round and the referee is so unmerciful that he lets the bout continue till 12 rounds.

  • Dhumper on January 2, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    Can't wait for Pak - SA series which is up next as they are perhaps the best 2 teams currently.. Gul, Junaid and Ajmal vs Philander, Steyn, Morkel. Yummy contest on lively wickets. Last series on dead UAE picthes between us was a draw so this will be a cracker. I believe Pak batsmen could score good enough in SA and it will set up an amazing contest!

  • Shan156 on January 2, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    India better be prepared when they face the world's best pace attack at the end of this year. I think they would need Tendulkar then more than ever provided he is fit and firing. It is going to be a really tough tour for them.

  • on January 2, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    Well it maybe the 3rd lowest total NZ have ever posted in a test match innings, but the Black Caps did achieve one record. This is the lowest number of overs they have ever faced in a test match innings. They faced 19.2 overs for their 45 runs. Oh dear, oh dear, can it get any worse? Methinks it could!

  • British_North_America on January 2, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    Everyone talks about Bangladesh, can anyone talks about new zealand's test status?

  • on January 2, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    NewZealand all out for 45 . If they continue for 1 year like this ,i will not be surprised if NZ got relegated to Associate Nation status like Ireland

  • on January 2, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    Oh God...whats happening to NZ????????

  • on January 2, 2013, 16:20 GMT

    if situation goes like this . NZ may be relegated

  • virendra_s on January 2, 2013, 16:15 GMT

    NZ needs to give up test status . There are countries like Ireland and AFG which will produce similar results but cannot play test cricket.

  • Sinhaya on January 2, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    This is seriously a big worry for test cricket. Sad to hear this. This way test cricket is in danger. Only 4 teams are doing well in tests today and they are SA, England, Australia and Pakistan.

  • crickketlover on January 2, 2013, 16:09 GMT

    It is good India did not play SA..Indian batsmen will get out cheaply as NZ! Looks like India and NZ batsmen are very similar. If there is swing and pace, both batsmen struggle. If the ball comes on to the bat without any movement, the batsmen from India and NZ excel in scoring runs otherwise they are like deer in the headlights!

  • MohammedPadela on January 2, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    Pietersen!!! its Petersen.

    KEVIN PIETERSEN AND ROBIN PETERSEN

    Both were born in South Africa ;)

  • bighit14 on January 2, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    Difficult to say whether B Mac's decision at the toss is right or wrong. But the batting unit should have shown some fight otherwise the result would have been same even if they bowled first.

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    @SurlyCynic:- I agree with everything in your last comment except that last small point because really Zimbabwe are better than Bangladesh in tests and I'm a Bangladesh fan who is saying that I mean the record between the two weakest test nations shows that Zimbabwe owns Bangladesh but hopefully for us Bangla fans like me, that can all change when these 2 meet this year.

    About this match where New Zealand got bowled out embarrassingly and people talking about a tier system in tests and that maybe a good idea but it doesn't mean the top teams shouldn't play the bottom ranked teams they still have to definitely away to these countries but you may have a right not to invite them if they play like New Zealand did today away to South Africa.

    Tier 1 in Tests - South, England and Australia. Tier 2 in Tests - Pakistan, India, West Indies and Sri Lanka. Tier 3 in Tests - Bangladesh, New Zealand, Ireland and Zimbabwe.

    ODIs and T20s you don't need tiers as these formats are perfectly fine.

  • on January 2, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    CSA have got a great and FAST bowling attack. Tsotosbe, Styen, Philander, Morkel, Parnell... Best attack equaling Pakistan (will put Pakistan slightly above)

  • gdevilliars on January 2, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    The only bad thing about Steyn getting his 300th wicket is that he got it before Kallis achieved his 300th. Those 13000 runs will have to do for now for king Kallis.

  • on January 2, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    Any NZ fan must be dreading the next few months of test cricket. They have 8 Test matches against the 2 best sides in the world!! They could lose all 8 (and badly to).

  • backwardpoint on January 2, 2013, 15:31 GMT

    Philander(er) has returned postively good stuff. I initially thought it was a tennis score in a masters by looking at his figures! Damn.

  • Soso_killer on January 2, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    @PFEL Philander took a 5-for at lords on a good batting strip. You rate Siddle and Harris above Vern? What a joke

  • on January 2, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    watching SA over the past year I haven't noticed anyone pointing out how many wickets they get caught behind or first slip. With all the plaudits getting handed out, how solid has Smith been at first slip, and Kallis's take of Trott in England was the catch of the year for me, at a critical time. De Villiers has been no slouch either

  • PDV1 on January 2, 2013, 15:11 GMT

    Well put ZiggyMarley. How some fans can think Australia is anywhere near the top team in the world with their recent Ashes history and having just lost in the their own backyard to SA is beyond me. The fact that they are claiming the first two Tests against the Proteas as some sort of victory says it all. Just desperate. And things will get worse when Hussey retires. A lot of humble pie to be consumed by Aussie fans in 2013 I reckon.

  • on January 2, 2013, 15:03 GMT

    Well done Kallis. Second best all rounder to ever play the game.

  • on January 2, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    Superb Bowling by SA.. My Hot Fav. Team after Pakistan.. :) .. I hope that they play till Day 3 nd Score heavily.. they don't need to Declare early..

    Current NZ doesn't hav potential to last long.. so SA shouldn't worry about them Sticking long enough.. :D .. what's the record for Cheapest 10-for in a Test? Philander have a Big chance of beating Some Record Books in this series.. :P go Proteas go... for 1000 runs.. ;)

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    Khasrul Kabir: The lowest scores in most countries were in the days of uncovered pitches, when rain made the pitches muddy and then minefields when they dried. Look at the dates of those lowest scores, early 1900s. If Bangladesh start winning tests against teams other than Zim then criticism will stop.

  • on January 2, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Their cricket reflects their politics. Pack it in and become a state of Australia. None of their current crop would make the Australian team except for Vettori.

  • Soso_killer on January 2, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    @rahulcricket the problem for Pakistan is not just about how well they bowl, but also how well they bat. Sure their bowlers will be a handfull for SA, but how will their batsmen cope with this awsome bowling attack?

  • Soso_killer on January 2, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    Kallis is the greatest cricketer of all time, to think that he averages 60+ in SA the toughest place to bat in the world. *Unlike flat track bullies i know*

  • on January 2, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    Here are some interesting facts I picked up from the lowest score table from the New Zeland South Africa match, I thank Cricinfo for the info, though this is a bottom chart, but it brings perspective into the regular Bangladesh Bashing by the cricket connoisseurs

    Lowest ever cricket score by countries. Team Score Overs RR New Zealand 26 27 0.96 South Africa 30 18.4x5 1.91 Australia 36 23 1.56 India 42 17 2.47 England 45 35.3x4 1.88 West Indies 47 25.3 1.84 Zimbabwe 51 28.5 1.76 Pakistan 53 24.5 2.13 Bangladesh 62 25.2 2.44

    Not bad for the worst cricket team, Bangladesh

  • ZiggyMarley on January 2, 2013, 14:45 GMT

    I can't believe there are still Australians who think they dominated SA in the recent test series. You had one player (Clarke) batting the best he has ever batted (and probably ever will), scoring almost 500 runs in two innings. You had SA with debutants (Kleinveldt/Du Plessis) and injuries (Duminy who couldn't even be replaced, Kallis & Philander) hitting them hard and Tahir, who bowled the worst spell in test match HISTORY. And guess what? Still couldn't beat SA! Remember, SA had England twice 9 wickets down in the final session in the 2010 series but had to settle for draws and eventually a 1-1 draw in the series. It works both ways. Admire our resilience in trying situations, and lament your own lack of killer instinct.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on January 2, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Congratulations to Kallis as well. 13,000 test runs and counting! Hopefully see a massive score from him this innings...

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    Funny to see comments saying Steyn only bowls well in certain conditions. I remember some great performances in unfavourable conditions, including India and last years Oval test where SA easily got 630-2 and he got a 5-fer in the second innings to win the game.

    Mohandas Menon just tweeted that Steyn is the second fastest ever to 300 wickets (in balls). Waqar: 12602, Steyn: 12605, Donald: 13690, Marshall 13755, Trueman 14599, Lillee 14942. Amazing.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on January 2, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    Congratulations Steyn and Philander; abysmal stuff from NZ. It's disappointing that so much turmoil (e.g. Ross Taylor saga) is going on with NZ at the moment, because there are a lot of talented young players there. SA are looking dominant in test cricket, and best of luck to them - they deserve a long run at number 1. Really great side to watch/follow.

  • kc69 on January 2, 2013, 14:17 GMT

    No doubt SA has the best pace attack in the world.This was bound to happen,feel sorry for NZ cricket where the greats like Dennis Lilee,Martin Crowe,Stephen Fleming had played and this team has put up such a poor show.Win or loss doesn't matter its the fight that matters.

  • QingdaoXI on January 2, 2013, 14:08 GMT

    New Zealand should fast track and bring Taylor and Ryder into the team for 2nd test otherwise same thing will happen and both the test will finish in 2 days. McCullum expt as opener should be stopped, it will be better if he comes down the order at number 6 not above than that. Team for second test should be Guptill, Flynn, Willamson, Taylor, Ryder, McCullum, Watling, Wagner, Bracewell, Boult, Martin. if they dont play with this team than it will better to leave South Africa after this test.

  • NasserAliKhan on January 2, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    You may not be noticed if you are not tall or quick as a pace bowler. But if you perform, the figures will not just get you noticed, they will shout.

  • Front-Foot_lunge on January 2, 2013, 14:04 GMT

    13 thousand runs for Kallis, joining Ponting on 13k as well.With England's top scorer being Gooch at 8.5k (with an avg around 40 too!!), that would make the south African and Australian best about 150% better than anything we can produce. English fans should stand and applaud that achievement and hope we can produce something, anything, like this in the next 10-20 years. To do anything else would be churlish.

  • jb633 on January 2, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Anybody talking about Bangladesh need to pipe down. New Zeland have been embarassingly poor for the last 4 years but the administration is more to blame than the talent pool. NZ simply cannot afford to lose the best players through ignorance. Taylor, Ryder and Vettori are all absent for one reason or another and IMO they are 3 of the best players in NZ. Imagine in BD if you took out Rahim, Shakib and Tamim out of the test match side. Then stick that side in against the best bowling attack in the world on a grassy top. Bangladesh are getting better, but they have absolutley no right to speak about the test match status of any other country. New Zeland have so little depth that they can't afford to have arguments with Taylor and Ryder. Like England did with KP the water needs to be pushed under the bridge and an agreement must be reached. It may not be perfect but it can't be any worse that the debacle we are witnessing right here.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on January 2, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    @SamonandTrout - Keep dreaming mate ...... you talk of mediocre... they don't come any more mediocre than the Poms hence only 1 team is going to be smashed in the Ashes....no it's not the 'mediocre' Aussies'....On the subject of mediocrity it's bit funny as @TheBigBoodha alluded to- Having his mediocrity exposed by the Aus' young batsmen- the likes of Warner and Cowan co.- he does look a world beater on specially doctored green tops and to minnows - Phlilander that is - only to be shown true worth as a 120 kph 'dibbly- dobbly' smacked around by top teams like Aus even by a green top order bats like Warner etc....

  • leggar on January 2, 2013, 13:41 GMT

    Much has been made of the potential of NZ's batsmen but it is hard to see the basis for such an assessment when the majority of them do not even have first class averages over 40! McCullum's average is only at 35 and yet he feels he has the ability to open at test level. The difference in class between NZ and SA is there for all to see and NZ cricket needs to address what is becoming an ever widening gap between their test batsmen and the rest of the world. With the exception of Taylor no other player would be a certainty even in the lesser team's batting line ups. As for Hesson - he has to go.

  • TheRisingTeam on January 2, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    @Rahane-Fan:- You're missing the point, the only reason New Zealand won those odd two test matches you mentioned and Bangladesh and Zimbabwe can't is simply because the amount of test matches these teams play nothing else. About that World T20 win, I agree Bangladesh played pathetically in that tournament and deserve to get knocked out but in the end it was a T20 game and anyone can win those games. You haven't forgotten the the day when Netherlands beat England in England have you? When Bangladesh last played their test matches against West Indies after almost a gap of a year which already tells you something, this minnow team didn't lose by an innings but New Zealand look set now even Sri Lanka lost to an innings to Australia the other day so indeed times are changing :)

  • shortsillypoint on January 2, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    Aus were dismissed for 47 in 2011 so its that unusual. Strange decision to bat first with such a shaky batting lineup but then McCullum is full of bravado. TV commentators said today SA was the most difficult place to bat - cant be that bad when they have so many world class batsmen in SA and abroad?

  • on January 2, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    If I was Captain Smith I will declare South Africa's Innings by Tea and bowl New Zealand out before the end of the day. Such Test Matches deserve to last no more than one day. In fact it will create a new format of Test Cricket for weaker teams where they play two 20 overs a side innings and the matches last one day.

  • Alexk400 on January 2, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    Steyn is flashy great bowler. But philander uncanny accuracy helps him. He is bowling within himself. He looks innocous but great accuracy gets him the wicket. Sometime you do not give respect to innocous bowlers. That way philander has knack. For me philander do not play well against a team who give him some respect. All batsman give respect to steyn , thats one reason he do not get wickets as much unless ball is swinging. Steyn is akram level when ball is swinging as you know he can take wicket at every ball. He disappears in flat wicket though. The rate it goes philander may have more wickets than steyn when they retire.

  • PhaniBhaskar24 on January 2, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    I am forseeing India's future in SA..if NZ bowled out for 49...india might be bundled out for 90 odd...OMG....and if NZ can bowl out SA for say 300 odd...India may give away 600...unbelievable...India really need to pull up their socks in test cricket..otherwise, humiliations such as this may invite india against World No.1

  • PFEL on January 2, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    I'm sure Philander bowled well, but until he slogs it out and starts getting big wickets in some tough conditions I am far from sold on him. He's figure's are amazing, true, but he's had a dream first year in tests in terms of bowling conditions. Whenever i've seen him on a decent batting pitch he's been pretty much useless. So still a long way to go before i compare him to Steyn, Morkel, Siddle, Anderson, Ryan Harris etc.

  • THE_MIZ on January 2, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    @Vincent Josef Albert Barwinski, to answer your question "Does that mean you only want to play us on green tops???????? ----Not in all conditions?" No we do want to play Aus on flat pitches as well just that one can't expect SA to constantly win on them (Neither did Aussies of old). The difference is that on flat pitches we can still knuckle down and draw whilst on pacy wickets Aus got crushed!

  • JustAG on January 2, 2013, 13:24 GMT

    @ Vincent Josef Albert Barwinski……….. Not sure where to start with your argument,

    Do you think SA is the number one team in the world but they are only good on "green" tops?

    Your argue that Aus dominated the first two test matches in Aus but they didn't win, which is what counts so don't think it's a valid argument to bring up.

    The current test match pitch doesn't look like much assistance for bowlers, SA have a decent score of 119/2 at a decent run rate.

    Have a look at South Africa's record of recent and see how many of the test matches they won, actually had what you call "green" tops

  • heathrf1974 on January 2, 2013, 13:21 GMT

    Awesome effort by Philander. He should take that Newlands wicket around the world with him.

  • tanstell87 on January 2, 2013, 13:20 GMT

    @ Vincent Josef Albert Barwinski - Warne & McGrath struggled on flat tracks of India in 2001 & 2004....even they needed green tops to pick wickets.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 13:14 GMT

    Vincent Josef Albert Barwinski : If the Aussies were so 'dominant in the first two tests' how come they didn't bowl SA out twice in either of those tests? Isn't that the point of test cricket? Warne and McGrath also had tests where they didn't perform.

  • Mayan820 on January 2, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    This is the exact same pitch on which the Proteas bowled Australia out for 47. They have done it again, this time it was the Kiwis for 45. I am beginning to like this particular Newlands strip more and more. Well done Vernon and team!

  • Bangla.tiger on January 2, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    why people blame only Bangladesh???? see recent performance NZ and SL

  • THE_MIZ on January 2, 2013, 13:10 GMT

    I wonder where are the guys that talk about SA's 'fading' attack that fail to bowl out teams? e.g. @LillianThomson and @jonesy2 and others? 45 all out! Not bad, hey? Doctored pitch? Yeah, its so bad that SA already lead by 69 with only 2 wickets down and Amla scores a 66 off 79! Brilliant stuff from the Proteas!

  • moBlue on January 2, 2013, 13:10 GMT

    man, i am an IND fan, but whenever oz are dethroned, as they will likely be for a long winter in hibernation now, the oz fans fall from grace - predictably - as evident in their comments herein! don't be jealous of the saffers' bowlers, oz fans! :) yes, i remember the same philander ran circles around your superstars in SA not too long ago and you guys greeted SA with flat decks when they toured oz as a result. the rest of the world knows - and acknowledges - that oz ain't at the top of the heap when it comes to world bowling dominance nowadays, even if siddle and gang are pretty good. the prize of honor goes to steyn, morkel and philander, and PAK might run them close! you might learn to show some grace so that the rest of us don't have to hold our noses and support your superstars if/when they ever make a big-time comeback! we are all aware that oz is the only cricketing country in the world with such boorish fans who lack grace when an opponent plays well! as an aside, i feel for NZ

  • Herath-UK on January 2, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    Aussies managed only 47 & SA about 90s in 2010 on this pitch though Sri Lanka did extremely well to score over 300 last year against Philander & Company.Doctoring pitches is not a new phenomenon, see what Aussies did in Hobart against Sri Lanka with a cracked lively pitch.However what is not right is moaning & groaning you hear from outside teams about subcontinent spinning wickets when they lose. Ranil Herath - Kent

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    @SurlyCynic:- Yes BUT both Zimbabwe and Bangladesh play less than half the amount of test matches New Zealand get to play so obviously New Zealand will win a test match here and there but fact is they are becoming a weaker team.

  • Gizza on January 2, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    @Noyon Pandit, I think if Bangldesh were batting instead of New Zealand today, the lowest Test score ever (26) would have genuinely been under threat. @Vincent Barwinski, with Warne and McGrath Australia could dominate on any sort of pitch. But since then, even the Aussie curators like the Indians and everyone else have started to doctor their pitches. The Adelaide and Sydney pitches get a lot greener when a subcontinental team arrives (well only India and SL, Pak have the fast bowlers for such a plan to backfire but they can never put enough runs on the board).

  • on January 2, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    Poor Cricket. But outstanding bowling by the South Africans.

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Hopefully there's no running away for the teams above to avoid facing Zimbabwe and Bangladesh next time especially when teams like New Zealand get bowled out for a minnow minnow score. But in my opinion, might as well include a potential test team like Ireland because there are so many weaker teams at the highest level in Cricket now and you can't just get rid of them otherwise there won't be Cricket. Having Ireland means that you will have a good set of teams at the bottom level and a good set of teams at the higher level so everything is balanced and smooth and top teams won't have to play and waste their time with bottom teams as much considering that bottom ranked teams will have plenty of Cricket anyway with the inclusion of Ireland just my stance on the current situation in the World of Cricket.

  • SamonandTrout on January 2, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    To @ Vincent Josef Albert Barwinski ---You have to be trolling dude. "Australia's total dominance"???? You obviously don't understand test cricket. sa played badly in 2 test matches and you still couldn't beat them, then you got demolished in the last one. Can't wait till your mediocre ozzy team get hammered in the ashes.

  • 30-30-150 on January 2, 2013, 12:58 GMT

    @Noyon Pondit @NAZMO-CRICKFANN... The difference is, this is a one-off poor showing by NZ, whereas BD always puts up such performances. Remember, NZ beat Aus in Aus 12 months ago and beat SL in SL 2 months ago. Can BD do that? NZ reached WC semis in 2011 in the subcontinent.. Even at the WT20, NZ thrashed BD, that too in the subcontinent :)

  • AllRightyThen on January 2, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha - Perhaps you are confused... this is Vernon Philander with the following test stats....

    12 Matches, 67 wickets, Best innings bowling 6/44, Best match 10/102, Average 17.98, Economy 2.90, Strike rate 37.2, 5 wickets - 7, 10 wickets - 2

    Doctored pitch??

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    This is the price of unceremonious removal of Ross Taylor as the captain of the New Zealand and nothing else.

    The moral of NZ team must be pretty low.

    Remember Aussies were skittled out for 49 by South Africans in SA itself few seasons ago. !

    Has Philander come off age ?

  • Warm_Coffee on January 2, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    New Zealand are the new minnows its clear, if it was Bangladesh then we would've heard all sorts of criticism right now double standards as usual. Hopefully when excluding stats, we'll be seeing on reports and articles "excluding Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and New Zealand" next time :)

  • bhrangi on January 2, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Great bowling by South Africa., Lets see what Kiwi will do @KiwiRocker : Where are you dude ? ?? ROFL

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    Maybe now SA will play for a win, rather than a draw.

  • Starboomber on January 2, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    And a team consisting of a mediocre Philander still won, says a lot about the opposition.

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    As a kiwi, and a cricket fan I was horribly embarrassed and outraged by the Ross Taylor debacle. Could NZ cricket slump any lower......think the Black Caps first innings today answers that question. Dantnz agree with you whole heartedly and have said so many times on Espncricinfo. When will we see heads roll and a change in administration and coach.

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:44 GMT

    To @starboomber -- So can Philander, Morkel and Steyn only bowl on green tops???? Again I say, flat pitches, green tops and middle of the road pitches are all part of test cricket, just like grass, clay and artificial surfaces are part of tennis. Warne and McGrath on the other hand could test batsmen on ALL types of pitches. We never needed to make and never did make excuses for them by saying "Oh the pitch is flat". On your recent tour to Oz, considering Australia's total dominance in the first two tests, our bowlers definitely out performed the SA bowlers on the so called flat pitches, while your bowlers performed much better on the bouncy Perth pitch. (Albeit against a rookie Oz attack). Does that mean you only want to play us on green tops???????? ----Not in all conditions?

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    Noyon Pondit: I'm not a Kiwi but at least they win some test matches, and in the last year have won in Sri Lanka and Australia. When have Bangladesh ever done that?

  • RednWhiteArmy on January 2, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    Its bad, but its not the end of the world NZ. Just remember this same lot bowled australia out for 47 in South Africa not so long ago.

  • baranasai on January 2, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    Vernon is an outstanding bolwer.I have seen our Indian players struggling against him as well as the great aussies. One should appreciate the fact that some bowlers like Steyn Philander Morne etc are outstanding servants for SA. It is bad luck the Kiwis could not recover in time.i hope the greta Fighting spirit of kiwis comes backm in their boiwling as well as in the second innings -who knows it may end up in a draw. Happy New year to all My cricket loving friends whom we see all the time in the comments section

  • 200ondebut on January 2, 2013, 12:36 GMT

    Shame they couldn't get 3 more so as to beat the Aussies score last year!

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    Thanks God! If Bangladesh showed this performance, then some self-declared specialists questioned their Test status. Is not it Funny ..?

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 2, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    This is just superb seam bowling by Vernon. Morkel and steyn werent nearly as effective. Vernon put it on a 6 pence and got the rewards - outstanding seam bowling no swing on offer. Doctored pitch - laughable, Amla has just gone on to 50 of 50 balls.

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    JESTER01, I don't question Philander's intelligence but I think that his success has more to do with control than with intelligence. He bowls consistently from wicket to wicket and holds a line dead on off stump. He also keeps an upright seam consistently which causes the ball to swing in or out. He got McCallum with the ball swinging in and Guptill with the ball swinging out. Hold a consistent line, present a upright seam and the ball and the pitch would do the rest. It's not Algebra.

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    Ohhh!!!!!!!What a good perfomance from South Africa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Starboomber on January 2, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    Yes same Philander who too 5-17 against Australia in the same venue. Isn't it the same reason you prepared flat pitches Down Under?

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:15 GMT

    You guys are pretty judgemental on Philander. Do you forget that all cricketers, batsmen and bowlers a like have their off days and series'. Vernon has been incredible and is very handy with the bat as well. If you have nothing good to say about an fantastic performance, keep it to yourself. I'm pretty sure even if this was another team, say Aus. The results may not have been that much different since most of the wickets were bowler inflicted and not the other way around...

  • JustAG on January 2, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    @Rob Fisher & @TheBigBoodha…Yup it's the same Philander who took 8 wickets against Aus on debut and then 6 in the next match against Aus… if Philander is your comparison, guess Aus is not too far ahead of NZ

  • Flash_hard27 on January 2, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    Whoa there, don't post a comment about a poor pitch if you are not watching the game. I have followed every ball up to lunch on the TV from England (and am an England fan not a Saffa). There is nothing wrong with the strip, it is a little green with a slight covering of grass but perfectly playable and up to test match standard (unlike that soggy rubbish presented for the final India vs England test last month). NZ are where they are due to a combination of poor batting technique, hubris from their captain (NZ won the toss and still batted on what all commentator and pundits were saying would be the best day for fast bowling!) and some super swing and seam bowling.

  • on January 2, 2013, 12:09 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha. Don't you have anything costructive, or even interesting, to say? Same Philander that has just got his 8th - YES EIGHTH - 5 wicket haul at the start of his 13 Test. Second fastest to 50 Wickets ever. Give credit where it's due, man.

  • Prabhash1985 on January 2, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    New Zealand is a great side... I think they will come back... I always supported South Africa, specially I love to see Dale Steyn bowling. He is a genuine fast bowler, with a lot of aggression. But, now, I wish New Zealand come back strongly... They have very good bowlers who can be threatening even to South African bowling attack... They fought back at many occasions where the defeat is evident, but turned the game upside down. This is a game, not a war. So, even if they get defeated, life goes on, they will catch up... It was a beauty to watch, the way South Africans bowled today. Unbelievable take by Amla... This is such a great game to watch... Good luck both sides.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    TheBigBoodha: So a pitch with a little bit of seam movement, where SA are now 63/1, is 'blatant doctoring'? So all pitches have to be flat roads like Brisbane or already crumbling like in India? Good one.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 12:01 GMT

    ajithabey: We like watching test cricket (and Newlands is sold out) and the players like playing it. Players like Sachin only play tests these days, Kallis too. The cost of tests is more than covered by sponsorship and TV rights. There is more than enough T20 played, and it's hard to remember any meaningful T20 matches. So no, the long history of test cricket is not going to come to an end because you want more T20.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:59 GMT

    This South African bowling unit is really something ! WOW !!

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 2, 2013, 11:55 GMT

    Thats why Oz prepared flat tracks in in the test series (except perth, where they lost), to negate guys like Vernon ripping through thier batting lineup. This is not a greentop, very battable and is a good contest between bat and ball.

  • PFEL on January 2, 2013, 11:47 GMT

    I haven't seen any of the match, but i think it's probably safe to make certain assumptions about the pitch . . . Philander looked an average bowler on the Aus tour but he seems to come into his own on helpful pitches. First Aus all out for 47, now NZ for 45 a year later, with Philander playing a big part both times. If i was a SA selector i'd be picking him for grassy pitches, and leaving him out on flatter tracks, where he was pretty useless, eg. The Gabba test against Aus

  • rahulcricket007 on January 2, 2013, 11:47 GMT

    i have a gut feeling coming from inside that pakistan bowlers like mohammad irfan , junaid khan ,umar gul will make saffas dance on these tracks . sa -pak will be a cracker .

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:42 GMT

    NZ Cricket board, wake up now, you have only one quality batsman, Ross Taylor & u lost him bcoz of dumb decision to make Macculum captain. Macculum id highely over rated batsman, apart from T 20 he wont get place in any of the test playing teams. Wake up or get blown.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    Is this the same Philander that snared the very un-impressive bowling figures of 4/199 for the whole test series against Australia?? Amazing batting display by New Zealand then.

  • TheBigBoodha on January 2, 2013, 11:28 GMT

    Counterstrike, 120-something km/hr bowlers only take a lot of wickets on one kind of pitch. No exceptions. Talk about blatant doctoring!

  • dantnz on January 2, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    Outrageous, is this the worst innings in about 40 years? How much mismanagement can we take? NZC seem to always want to side line the best players and coaches. Hesson must be sacked over this, get a real coach with some experience and skulls. Roscoe must be reinstated, only consistent world class test player we have.

  • Soso_killer on January 2, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    Philander is the spear of this attack make no mistake about that, what a player

  • ajithabey on January 2, 2013, 11:26 GMT

    So this is test cricket at its worst.Thanks to the advent of T20 cricket techniques of modern day cricketers have gone haywire.ICC Administrators think carefully about playing test cricket in the modern world with economic crises worldwide,time factor and the huge sum of money needed to stage test cricket over a period of 5 days in addition to pre-match preparations and logistical nightmares such as travel,accomodation for long periods of time etc. It may be more suitable and economically viable to play a series of 50 over and T 20 cricket instead of staging test matches which sometimes do not last more than 3 days as witnessed in the recent past.

  • TheBigBoodha on January 2, 2013, 11:25 GMT

    Is that the same Philander who took 5 innings to take a wicket vs Australia? God, the Kiwis must be bad.

  • CrICkeeet on January 2, 2013, 11:21 GMT

    NZ brothers, keep playing T20 more nd more.......... nd make Such type of "SUPERB" batsman B MCcullum who can only PLAY T20.........NOTHNG MORE!

  • Narbavi on January 2, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    Point to note is this is the same team which beat srilanka recently in a test match, probably just a month ago, which probably means lanka would get dismissed for a similar score against south africa on current form

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    Hey Buchanan this debacle happened on your watch! Stick this shambles in your statistics...The worst day of my life! Well done Boys!!!!

  • NAZMO-CRICKFANN on January 2, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    i dont hear any talk about removing new zealand from test status, i wonder why

  • OTempletub on January 2, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    Suck it up kiwis - take your beating

  • cardassian on January 2, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Was an awesome spell by Philander. Just a shame to see when we're the opposition.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    Working down the road from Newlands... :( By the way its not Wineberg End...its Wynberg End ;)

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    Amazing bowling performance by SA, particularly Philander who was remarkable. Perhaps those Kiwi posters like LillianThomson who labeled Philander 'mediocre' might want to reconsider. He now has 72 wickets at an average of less than 17.

  • dakshinap on January 2, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    Excellent bowling Mr. Vernon keep it up.

  • on January 2, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    sack the New Zealand coach,

  • umangsagar on January 2, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    They called for it, not having Ross Taylor in their side. and worst of all McCullum as captain, he has never been good at it and has always wanted to be. In my personal opinion, bound to be differed by others, I do feel he is way over publicized as a batsman esp in the test arena, in the shortest format, he comes good one in 5 innings, in test you need guys with much more quality and perseverance.

  • Porky_PigTheToon on January 2, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    Whoa ! Superb bowling by Philander. Even with speed of "128kmph" he is eating wickets quite comfortably.

  • Porky_PigTheToon on January 2, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    Whoa ! Superb bowling by Philander. Even with speed of "128kmph" he is eating wickets quite comfortably.

  • umangsagar on January 2, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    They called for it, not having Ross Taylor in their side. and worst of all McCullum as captain, he has never been good at it and has always wanted to be. In my personal opinion, bound to be differed by others, I do feel he is way over publicized as a batsman esp in the test arena, in the shortest format, he comes good one in 5 innings, in test you need guys with much more quality and perseverance.

  • on January 2, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    sack the New Zealand coach,

  • dakshinap on January 2, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    Excellent bowling Mr. Vernon keep it up.

  • SurlyCynic on January 2, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    Amazing bowling performance by SA, particularly Philander who was remarkable. Perhaps those Kiwi posters like LillianThomson who labeled Philander 'mediocre' might want to reconsider. He now has 72 wickets at an average of less than 17.

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    Working down the road from Newlands... :( By the way its not Wineberg End...its Wynberg End ;)

  • cardassian on January 2, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Was an awesome spell by Philander. Just a shame to see when we're the opposition.

  • OTempletub on January 2, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    Suck it up kiwis - take your beating

  • NAZMO-CRICKFANN on January 2, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    i dont hear any talk about removing new zealand from test status, i wonder why

  • on January 2, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    Hey Buchanan this debacle happened on your watch! Stick this shambles in your statistics...The worst day of my life! Well done Boys!!!!