South Africa v New Zealand, 2nd Test, Port Elizabeth, 2nd day January 12, 2013

Outclassed New Zealand in tatters

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New Zealand 47 for 6 (Watling 15*, Bracewell 3*) trail South Africa 525 for 8 dec (du Plessis 137, Amla 110, Elgar 103*, Bracewell 3-94) by 478 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Utter dominance from South Africa. That should not be a surprise, but it should be admired. Say what you like about New Zealand, and their batting was again exposed in painful fashion late on the second day, but South Africa are producing some irresistible Test cricket.

This time a batsman who began with a pair two Tests ago scored a maiden hundred and another who has eased into Test cricket as though born to play it scored his second in four matches. Then the premier fast bowler in the world began to bully New Zealand's top order before a man slotting back into the side claimed a brace. Even South Africa's spinner was in on the mayhem with two wickets in his first over. A scuffle in the stands shortly before the close provided more of a fight than what was in the middle.

By the close, New Zealand were reduced to a hopeless 47 for 6, with two wickets for a Dale Steyn, Rory Kleinveldt and Robin Peterson, in response to South Africa's imposing 525 for 8. At least they made it past 45. Graeme Smith did not have to bat as long as he did, but wanted to give Dean Elgar the chance of his maiden hundred which came shortly after tea with a lofted and priceless boundary against Jeetan Patel.

It did not take long for the game to look very different with the ball in South African hands. Martin Guptill was dropped at second slip by Jacques Kallis in the first over - South Africa's catching is their only blemish in this series - but it was not long before he offered another off Steyn which Alviro Petersen grabbed. It continued Guptill's struggles in white: his last seven innings now read 11, 13, 4, 11, 1, 0 and 1.

There were suggestions last week that Steyn operated within himself at Newlands - he did not have to push too hard - but here the speedgun was peaking at 147kph. At the other end Morne Morkel roughed up Kane Williamson with two painful blows in the ribs, leading to a weak push outside off to give Steyn his second. It was the perfect example of a fast-bowling double-act.

And just because Vernon Philander was absent it did not mean any breather for a battered New Zealand. Kleinveldt, the memories of a torrid debut at Brisbane rapidly fading, produced an unplayable lifter to take Dean Brownlie's glove and then trapped Daniel Flynn with a full delivery he played around. Flynn review. It was plumb.

Could it get worse? Yes. Peterson tossed his second ball wide and Brendon McCullum, who until then had shown considerable grit, could not resist a drive which he only edged very thinly to slip as it spun from the footmarks. Colin Munro, on debut, then played forward to his first ball and gave a simple inside edge via his pad to short leg. The hat-trick ball spun past Doug Bracewell's edge. It would have been no surprise if it had taken it.

The intense closing period was in contrast to a largely sedate day with South Africa, as is their forte, producing an efficient, professional, display with the bat. Elgar, who made a jittery 21 at Newlands last week as he attempted to secure a middle-order spot vacated by Jacques Rudolph, was again nervous at the start of his innings but this time managed to ride through a tricky period. A strong pull off Neil Wagner settled him and he then began to expand against Patel.

It was not always pretty from Elgar, especially outside off stump, but he ensured he did not waste his opportunity against a tiring attack. For a while before the interval it appeared time was not in Elgar's side and he started to attack before tea to try and reach the landmark - including a six over long-on against Wagner - but with more than three days remaining it would have been a ruthlessly harsh captain not to give him another opportunity.

Du Plessis was also stuck in the nineties over an interval. He went to lunch on 99 having played out consecutive maidens from Munro, but he must have been at ease during the break as the first ball he faced on resumption, from Patel, he drove into the stands to bring up his hundred. His lofted driving was a feature of the innings as he played them against seam and spin.

Du Plessis showed during his epic rearguard in Adelaide that he has a game that can adapt to various situations despite him having made his name in the one-day arena. With the ball moving, he defended solidly, left well and waited for the poor delivery having regained his composure after a nasty blow in a sensitive area in the first over of the day from Bracewell. As ever, it provided amusement to those who sat in the comfort of the dressing room.

There was a hint of desperation when New Zealand reviewed an lbw shout from Wagner with him on 80. He eventually became Munro's first Test wicket, after a stand of 131 with Elgar, when he got a leading edge high into the off side when aiming over leg. The dismissal saw his average plummeting down to 111.25. It has been one of most serene starts to a Test career in recent memory.

The opening ten overs of the day had brought just 11 runs and the prized wicket of Hashim Amla as New Zealand probed away under cloudy skies. After passing the outside edge on a number of occasions, it was Boult's worst delivery of his opening spell which broke through when Amla flicked at a ball down the leg side and nicked through to BJ Watling ending a stand of 113. Boult's celebration amounted to a sheepish grin, but after seeing Amla dropped on 48 yesterday, even removing him for 110 will have brought a sense of relief.

Yet there was a sense of inevitably that it would be a declaration to end the innings. The problem for New Zealand was the support for Bracewell and Boult. Wagner proved expensive, Patel, although finding turn, was not consistent enough to maintain the pressure and Munro's wickets were gifted by batsmen aiming to accelerate. Ross Taylor's absence has left a vast hole in the batting, but Tim Southee has also been sorely missed with the ball.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Inducker on January 13, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    @PFEL I shouldn't underestimate Elgar if I were you. I wouldn't mind being in the same company as Graham Gooch. Hashim Amla and Jacque Kallis also had dodgy starts to their test careers.Any test hundred is an achievement. To turn it round as quickly as Elgar has shows good temperament and an ability to perform at the highest level. But I guess with all this one day and T20 trash around most fans do have short attention spans.

  • Eskimo on January 13, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    @Philip Machanick That is correct. It consists of all departments. I'm just stating it's the depart SA are the most lacking. I think everyone would agree on that.

    DeckChairand6pack stated a very good point. It is way too soon to judge this SA team. We will have more or less an idea of SA's ability after the UAE series vs Pakistan (which I will be attending).

    Unfortunately, I can't comment on the Windies era or The 1948 Invincibles, because I'm only 22-years old and can only recall on stories and history books. Nonetheless, I'm very passionate about my test cricket.

  • sammyoneboy on January 13, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    Mike Hesson said that they should crank up the bowling machine but "the guys don't like to be pushed too hard". Enough said because words fail me!

  • LillianThomson on January 13, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    @Soso Killer, I'm not talking about the previous South African team's performances in India and Pakistan - where actually Paul Harris did rather well.

    I'm talking about how this team will do. A team which will presumably try 4 quicks + Peterson in the UAE against Pakistan later this year, even though England found a 3rd quick was totally redundant a year ago. And a team which will have to face Rehman and Ajmal on spinning wickets with no bounce. For Peterson, du Plessis and Elgar or Duminy that will be a major challenge, and we don't know how much longer Kallis can maintain his lofty standards either.

    But if SA beats Pakistan home and away this year, then I think they really will be able to claim greatness.

  • PFEL on January 13, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    Even Elgar made a ton against NZ . . . they must be really bad

  • Soso_killer on January 13, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    @LillianThomson i agree with you, talks of greatness should be postponed, not just for a little while though but indefinately.

    As for the little matter of "not seeing SA winning in the SUB" i'm sorry my friend but thats ludacris. You see my friend SA was the last team to beat India in consecutive test in India until England achieved it against a weak and ailing team. Something that the "great" Australia could not achieve.

    You see my friend SA is the only team to beat India by an innings twice in their own den twice in the last 10 years (remember Dale Steyn best career figures), something that the "great" Australia could not achieve even with the "great" Warne. England also did not achieve that even against an ailing team.

    Talks of SA not winning in the SUB are uniformed and to be frank INSIPID

  • on January 13, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    @Eskimo a great team is not made in one department otherwise you would have to say the best Aus team was in Bradman's day, or WI in Lara's time. The current SA team is not so good for any 1 person's brilliance but consistent all-round performance, with a lot of the players at or near the top in their rankings.

  • DeckChairand6pack on January 13, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    I would agree that it is premature to talk of the Proteas all time greatness. Let's not forget that it was only a few weeks back that we were nil nil by the skin of our teeth against Australia. Added to this our home record is poor. We need to sustain these good results for a few seasons before we can talk of greatness.

    The Sub Continent holds no fear for the Proteas, been there done it, our record is good. Travelling is one of our strengths. I'm sure they would have no trouble taking on anyone, anywhere playing on the parking lot outside the supermarket of the opponents choosing.

  • Amol_Gh on January 13, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    All SA-batsmen, since the last decade or so have been great players of spin. So their coping here in IND or the sub-continent overall is not an issue at all...especially this particular SA-side.

  • ian45 on January 13, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    @lilianthomson, you seem to be struggling a lot these days, just your pathetic cricket team, give it up troll

  • Inducker on January 13, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    @PFEL I shouldn't underestimate Elgar if I were you. I wouldn't mind being in the same company as Graham Gooch. Hashim Amla and Jacque Kallis also had dodgy starts to their test careers.Any test hundred is an achievement. To turn it round as quickly as Elgar has shows good temperament and an ability to perform at the highest level. But I guess with all this one day and T20 trash around most fans do have short attention spans.

  • Eskimo on January 13, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    @Philip Machanick That is correct. It consists of all departments. I'm just stating it's the depart SA are the most lacking. I think everyone would agree on that.

    DeckChairand6pack stated a very good point. It is way too soon to judge this SA team. We will have more or less an idea of SA's ability after the UAE series vs Pakistan (which I will be attending).

    Unfortunately, I can't comment on the Windies era or The 1948 Invincibles, because I'm only 22-years old and can only recall on stories and history books. Nonetheless, I'm very passionate about my test cricket.

  • sammyoneboy on January 13, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    Mike Hesson said that they should crank up the bowling machine but "the guys don't like to be pushed too hard". Enough said because words fail me!

  • LillianThomson on January 13, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    @Soso Killer, I'm not talking about the previous South African team's performances in India and Pakistan - where actually Paul Harris did rather well.

    I'm talking about how this team will do. A team which will presumably try 4 quicks + Peterson in the UAE against Pakistan later this year, even though England found a 3rd quick was totally redundant a year ago. And a team which will have to face Rehman and Ajmal on spinning wickets with no bounce. For Peterson, du Plessis and Elgar or Duminy that will be a major challenge, and we don't know how much longer Kallis can maintain his lofty standards either.

    But if SA beats Pakistan home and away this year, then I think they really will be able to claim greatness.

  • PFEL on January 13, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    Even Elgar made a ton against NZ . . . they must be really bad

  • Soso_killer on January 13, 2013, 9:58 GMT

    @LillianThomson i agree with you, talks of greatness should be postponed, not just for a little while though but indefinately.

    As for the little matter of "not seeing SA winning in the SUB" i'm sorry my friend but thats ludacris. You see my friend SA was the last team to beat India in consecutive test in India until England achieved it against a weak and ailing team. Something that the "great" Australia could not achieve.

    You see my friend SA is the only team to beat India by an innings twice in their own den twice in the last 10 years (remember Dale Steyn best career figures), something that the "great" Australia could not achieve even with the "great" Warne. England also did not achieve that even against an ailing team.

    Talks of SA not winning in the SUB are uniformed and to be frank INSIPID

  • on January 13, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    @Eskimo a great team is not made in one department otherwise you would have to say the best Aus team was in Bradman's day, or WI in Lara's time. The current SA team is not so good for any 1 person's brilliance but consistent all-round performance, with a lot of the players at or near the top in their rankings.

  • DeckChairand6pack on January 13, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    I would agree that it is premature to talk of the Proteas all time greatness. Let's not forget that it was only a few weeks back that we were nil nil by the skin of our teeth against Australia. Added to this our home record is poor. We need to sustain these good results for a few seasons before we can talk of greatness.

    The Sub Continent holds no fear for the Proteas, been there done it, our record is good. Travelling is one of our strengths. I'm sure they would have no trouble taking on anyone, anywhere playing on the parking lot outside the supermarket of the opponents choosing.

  • Amol_Gh on January 13, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    All SA-batsmen, since the last decade or so have been great players of spin. So their coping here in IND or the sub-continent overall is not an issue at all...especially this particular SA-side.

  • ian45 on January 13, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    @lilianthomson, you seem to be struggling a lot these days, just your pathetic cricket team, give it up troll

  • 30-30-150 on January 13, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    Over past week, Mr.EnglishCricket has been asking ICC to remove Test status of Sri Lanka, New Zealand and India..! LOL. Wonder which team is next in line :D

  • 30-30-150 on January 13, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Looks like the Bangladesh supporters are on a roll here. They are happy not because SA is playing well but because NZ is doing badly. Wonder what harm the NZ cricket team has ever caused to them.. And yeah, NZ are seriously missing their BIG SIX - Taylor, Ryder, Franklin, Vettori, Southee, Martin.

  • LillianThomson on January 13, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    As I wrote earlier, SA are rightfully top of the rankings currently.

    But talk of all-time greatness needs to be postponed until they have won on the subcontinent. We heard similar claims from England when they retained the Ashes in Australia, but then in 2012 they lost 5 of their 9 Tests on the subcontinent.

    I have no idea how Peterson, du Plessis, Elgar and Duminy will bat on slow turners. And England have shown that to win in India you need to reduce to two quick bowlers and a minimum of 2 spinners. I struggle to see how South Africa can do that.

  • on January 13, 2013, 8:04 GMT

    Very proud of our side. We are looking every bit the No 1 side in the world, even if NZ are all over the show. We have a long way to go to rival the records of the great west indies and Australian teams, but if we carry on like this for a few years we are definitely going to be regarded as one of the finest test teams ever. I wish we could play those sides now and see how good we really are.

  • Amol_Gh on January 13, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    As an SA-fan, I don't care if SA has a spinner or not, as long as they win matches in this manner - ruthlessly. All that matters is ruthless results. Who cares what ingredients in the process led to it ? If this SA-side keeps performing like this for- say - next 5-6 years, that's enough for me to say that they are equivalent to the recent dominant AUS side.

  • m.marshalldgreatest on January 13, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    I don't feel sorry for these Kiwi cricketers because they did not show humility in their losses to SA when they toured NZ in 2012. They spoke of near misses and that SA were lucky in some sessions. At the awards ceremoney following the conclusion of the test series, the Kiwi administration still showed some arrogance.

    I suppose it could be argued that this was before the England and Australian series. The Kiwis talk a good talk, too bad they can't walk it!

  • Eskimo on January 13, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    The previous era AUS side would always be a better side than the current SA side as long as SA don't have a world-class spinner. Even though the batting of SA is slightly better and the pace attack matches theirs, not only the spinner, but the mentality as well. Just think how the AUS side of then toyed with other test nations. An Ambrose-type bowler (replacing Morkel) will equal the scales, but to surpass them SA needs a world-class spinner.

  • on January 13, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    The last 4 wickets should fall fairly rapidly, and I expect us to enforce the follow on. This game could end tomorrow morning.

  • on January 13, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Brendon McCullum is the worst Test Captain thats ever been produced in the world.......His record; 2 matches, 2 losses by an innings and 4 stuffups. The stuffups refering to batting first at Newlands, getting 2 shocking scores and lastly not going to the reffering to the UDRS when Boult could have got Amla caught behind.....He should GO!

  • on January 13, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    For all of you who have been slagging Sri Lanka off, I hope you have seen the latest score vs the average Aussies. Sri Lanka will always give a decent show. They have a Malinga, Dilshan and mant=y more who would make any countries test team.

  • CoxC on January 13, 2013, 5:47 GMT

    Weather forecast looks good. Only 2 days used. I would like to see Smith priming Elgar to open and play out what is left of day 3 if they bowl out the BCs. He needs more of the new ball at top? level to prove his worth. 6 belongs to Faf. Duminy is a must when ready at 7 for the extra bowling dimension. Come on SA, help to make this 4 days.

  • david_louisson on January 13, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    @cloudmess: agree that Elgar looked more composed this time around, and that Wagner would do well to take note. ;)

  • on January 13, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    I felt sorry for NZ last night. Maybe because of the mutual respect between our two nations. BUT... This morning when I woke up, I realized: If this was the ALL Black rugby team (No1 in the world rankings), playing against Argentina (current no 8 in the world) they would probably annihilate them too.

    GO Proteas!!!! Make us proud!

  • david_louisson on January 13, 2013, 4:54 GMT

    @Henning: guess you're too young to remember the SA side of 1970. Aussie came to SA having just beaten a WI side (that included Sobers, Fredericks, Kanhai, Lloyd, Hall, Griffith, Gibbs) 4-0 with high hopes of beating SA. But SA demolished them 4-0 in 4 tests: Barry Richards, the Pollock brothers, Mike Procter, Eddie Barlow, Lee Irvine, Tiger Lance, Denis Lindsay. The current SA side certainly has some depth, but let's not forget that Aust (well, mainly Clarke & Hussey) held their own in the first 2 tests a month or so back, and might have won in Adelaide if it wasn't for Faf's fantastic rearguard effort. Moreover, just about any team could beat this NZ side. Agree that this is a fine SA team, but IMO Steve Waugh's Aussies, and the WI sides of the 1980s were every bit as good, and possibly marginally better. Man for man, Bradman's 1948 Invincibles were the greatest ever.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on January 13, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    I'm very sorry to say but I'm going to repeat again, New Zealand shouldn't be allowed to play test cricket. They are making our clueless team (India) look like champions. It's sad but they have to go.

  • NickNZ on January 13, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    This is easily one of the weakest NZ teams of the past 20, maybe even 30 years. Forget about SA being an incrdible side, this NZ side is stuggling to compete with anyone on a consistent basis. This past year has really highlighted the lack of depth in NZ cricket, with four top players unavailable it's showed that NZ has a very limited pool of quality players to choose from. The country's population is only 4 million. The only way NZ will be able to be competitive against England is if Ross Taylor, Tim Southee, Daniel Vettori and Jesse Ryder are all available. Daniel Flynn has to go, 43 test innings without a hundred isn't good enough. Is Watling's batting record really good enough to justify his position in the side while a capable wicketkeeper like McCullum is also in the side? From 18 test innings Wating has 1 hundred against Zimbabwe and 1 50 against Pakistan, both on batter friendly pitches in Napier.

  • jonesy2 on January 13, 2013, 4:10 GMT

    new zealand are simply and utter disgrace past the point of embarrassment. they have to be barred from test cricket because right now people attending these tests should be sueing them. i seriously hope not a single soul turns up to the next match NZ host. absolute disgrace. letting dean elgar score a ton against you is the last straw but getting half your side bowled out for 40 after the 45 all out is the point where NZ have to asked to leave test cricket.

  • on January 13, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    Well N.Z. have selected two ex-South African bowlers (Wagner & Munro), think they need to get their talent scouts busy in South Africa and find some South African batsman to bolster their poor batting line-up.

  • Whatsgoinoffoutthere on January 13, 2013, 3:21 GMT

    And another stellar innings from opening batsman Brendan McCullum. Even if he gets a triple ton off 50 balls in the second innings I'll still say he's not up to it. And where's Ross Taylor? Oh yeah, stitching him up was such a great move, wasn't it?

  • Spuddab on January 13, 2013, 2:45 GMT

    Please can someone explain to Brendon McCullum that you won't get caught if you play the ball along the ground. Compare his innings with his Aussie counterpart Michael Clarke... tragic unfortunately. I do remember Brendon making his name in cricket as a wicketkeeper batsmen batting at number 7, that's where he belongs, as he doesn't have the defensive technique to combat the quicks... but he's not alone.

  • LillianThomson on January 13, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    A wonderful day, apart from the fact that I'm a Kiwi :(

    The atmosphere was delightful, and I've added St George's Park to my must-visit list.

    I must eat my words about Dale Steyn: it was great to see that he can still hit the high 140Ks. When he does, he is transformed from being an above-average quick into a great fast bowler. Keep it up!

    I've learned nothing about Elgar, as the Kiwi attack without Southee and Vettori is even worse than it is with them in our team. I really like FAF do Plessis though: to me he's a "proper" tough batsman who will fight it out.

    It's difficult to tell against such poor opposition, but this SA team is reasonably number 1 at the moment. And it is probably only 3 players (2 Petersons and Elgar/Duminy) from greatness.

    I'm not sure why Quinton de Kock isn't already in the team: one year ago he was playing against Ehsan Adil whom the Pakistanis are bringing over to SA.

    Anyway, well played SA, and well played that wonderful crowd at a lovely old ground.

  • on January 13, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    @The Ashes and others,

    Uh, do you really fail to see that we played Zimbabwe home and away at the end of 2011? We went to Zimbabwe, beat them there, then went to Australia, won in Hobart, Zimbabwe came by for some chips and a smashing and then we hosted South Africa so we could try getting smashed ourselves. And we've hosted Bangladesh far more often than a lot of other countries, so stop flogging that dead horse. We don't refuse games against them. Try Australia and England, they hate playing minnows.

    @Fahad Ahmed Sheikh

    "I believe that NewZealand are short of their five main players... which are Daniel Vettori, Ross Taylor, J.Ryder, Frankin and Southee, whose absence has seriously costed the NZ side already."

    Seriously now, Franklin played in the first test and was rubbish, please do not mention him in the same breath as Vettori, who averages 40 with the bat over the last few years. I hope NZ never include him again as he has shown time and again that he is useless at this level.

  • Sugath on January 13, 2013, 2:22 GMT

    The tragedy with Kiwi cricket cannot be summed up purely from what transpired so far. When coach thinks he is the best of all and start to treat seniors like school boys, then you are up a gum tree. Just as with Lanka in Aussie Land Kiwis too as I see has not done their homework. It is obvious that a tour SWOT has not been done no has any situation strategies worked out based both on assumptions before game and actual during the game. They also have not done an Audit of all factors. This is how poor coaching and faulty leadership destroy quality.

  • The_Ashes on January 13, 2013, 2:03 GMT

    Had it been Ban or Zim, would've seen all sorts of harsh comments i.e. remove them, embarrassment, waste of time blah blah blah. New Zealand have played Test Cricket since 1926 though :)

  • Tal_Botvinnik on January 13, 2013, 1:30 GMT

    india a useless team.no dravid,laxman,tendulkar to save them.even if they were there they won't make anything significant.their erratic fast bowling is even worse than bangladesh's,even bangladesh have better spinners than ashwin and co.their batting is exlusively made for ODI and t20s not test. example=dhonni,kohli. they should play against teams like zimbave,kenya on spinning tracks.they are wasting a lot of time against playing with good test nations.

  • heathrf1974 on January 13, 2013, 1:19 GMT

    South Africa are playing great cricket and New Zealand are currently giving Bangladesh a run for their money.

  • Jayzuz on January 13, 2013, 1:18 GMT

    @ TommytuckerSaffa, you really do have a HUGE chip on your shoulder when it comes to Australia, don't you?

  • on January 13, 2013, 1:01 GMT

    Why is Southee not in the team?

  • Min2000 on January 13, 2013, 0:59 GMT

    For NZC it's time to wipe the slate clean and start fresh. So the final act of the NZC board (in its current configuration) should be to get rid of Hesson, White and anyone else involved in the sacking of Taylor - and that includes McCullum.

    That's all the short term.

    Next we need appoint coaches and administrators that can be trusted to take the game and this team forward.

    We need an experienced coach. Someone mentioned Siddons, who would be a good choice, but I'd also like to see Steve Rixon offered the job. He knows what's required. More importantly he's a no-nonsense sort of coach and we need right now.

    Long term, we need to take advantage of our proximity to Australia. If John Buchanan is to stay on, then why doesn't he make himself useful and tap his contacts across the Tasman to get a NZL side into the Sheffield Shield. Let that be his legacy here, rather than overseeing the steady decline of performance and standards in this country.

  • AFKgamer on January 13, 2013, 0:46 GMT

    OK with Southee and Vettori with injuries. Taylor and Ryder taking time out. NZ are depleted. Why not play Chris Martin? He has a career average of 26.72 against SA yet he's carrying the drinks.

  • class9ryan on January 13, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    South Africa need to find a excellent spin bowler who can take 8-10 wickets in a subcontinent match. If they can get one they will be the toughest side 2 beat in any conditions

  • on January 13, 2013, 0:33 GMT

    I think the time has come to create 2 Divisions for Test Cricket. Promote 1 team from II to I and demote 1 team from I to II at the end of each year. That way the games will be competitive and not become such travesties as this SA-NZ series - without meaning offense to anyone. IMHO the current Divs would be:

    Division I: Australia, England, India, Pakistan, South Africa. Division II: Bangladesh, New Zealand, Srilanka, West Indies, Zimbabwe.

  • Albert_cambell on January 13, 2013, 0:28 GMT

    @Kohli_DaBest. Why mate? u want india to suffer a series whitewashes after facing Aus,SA and Eng in Tier A.

  • on January 13, 2013, 0:17 GMT

    Oh dear, poor NZ.This South African side is nowhere near the best test team ever but the NZ is certainly the worst NZ side ever. One thing the Kiwis always had was guts,this crew are sorely lacking even that. Time for a painful enquiry into the administration and then roll out the guillotine.

  • tfjones1978 on January 12, 2013, 23:24 GMT

    I agree with the idea of two years, but it needs to be two tiers of SIX TEAMS that play four tests against each other over two years (ie: 20 tests). With 3 pts for win, 1 for draw/tie, teams would have max of 60 points and four tests would be enough to prove who the better team is (eg: two home, two away occuring over two month period). ODI & T20s could be added in like currently between all full members and top associates. On current form, top tier would be: SA, Eng, Aust, Pak, Ind, Srl. Second tier: WI, NZ, Zimb, Bang, Ireland & Afgan. Every two years sixth (eg: Srl) would auto swop with seventh (eg: WI) and fifth (eg: Ind) would play home test series against eighth (eg: NZ) to retain top tier for two more years. Lets make matches worth something. You win you get promoted, you loose, you get demoted!

  • on January 12, 2013, 23:02 GMT

    And a very happy New year @ Ross Taylor. Enzed cricket seem to be in a contest with West Indies Cricket for the Board for the most ability to destroy a side award.

  • on January 12, 2013, 22:54 GMT

    @maanii "Look at these over excited Saffas over their performance against minnow, thinking that they are invincible,unbeatable. Lucky to survive against AUS and soon their so called mighty batsmen will be tested hard against PAK bowlers."

    Weren't you the guy that was saying Rory Kleinveldt was a useless bowler and that SA attack would be weak without the likes of Philander?

    In fact, a few people were saying this,, jb633 and Lilian Thomson comes to mind. Those people are all quiet now, but you still have the nerve to keep talking? Do you deliberately forget what you wrote the previous day? Or do you just pretend that it wasn't you?

  • maf17 on January 12, 2013, 22:48 GMT

    I keep wondering how NZ is able to keep getting Test series against the power white teams of SA, Australia and England, despite being little more competitive than Bangladesh or Zimbabwe. They toured Australia last year, are in SA currently and have an upcoming home series against England. Australia havent played Bangladesh since 2006 and are unlikely ever to play another Test against Zimbabwe. Similar for SA and England. Yet they all line up for series against NZ. Puzzling.

  • BG4cricket on January 12, 2013, 22:34 GMT

    Jarrod & Glenn - NZ are absolutely the worst team in test cricket outside Zimbabwe and you are spot on that the real problem lies in the shambolic administration & coaching. As a start Hesson and Buchanan have to go & then the selectors and after doing this the chairman of Cricket NZ should also resign as all of the rot & ridiculous man management & selection debacles have occurred on his watch. Somewhere in NZ domestic cricket there must be 2 decent opening bats who could play alongside Taylor, McCullum, Williamson and Ryder with Watling to keep and Southee, Boult & Bracewell to bowl seamers & find someone who can really turn the ball to compliment - there is hope but not for this series.

  • cloudmess on January 12, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    Lovely to read about Elgar getting the better of Wagner.

  • on January 12, 2013, 22:08 GMT

    Don't overanalyse guys. SA are very good (if not the all time best team Glenn10 thinks - Peterson and Kleinveldt cannot, at this stage, be judged as greats, and I would rate the early 2000s Aussies as better). NZ are a very average side who in my opinion would not win the County Championship in England. While their national administration is in tatters, this doesn't hide a current lack of talent and technique. As an England supporter, I hope NZ put up more of a fight in the upcoming series.

  • on January 12, 2013, 21:35 GMT

    Is anyone really surprised? We NZ fan aren't. NZ Cricket is a shambles right now, we are reaping the results of an organisation that has treated the sport as politics for far too long. Our top 2 batsmen have been discarded and treated poorly, and so have many other players over the last 5-10 years. The organisation is broken and NZ cricket wont regain its competitiveness until that is sorted out. It's a shame, NZ have never been world beaters, but you could normally rely on them to battle.

  • philvic on January 12, 2013, 21:30 GMT

    this is the best SA team since readmission. Not sure how they would compare to team of late 1960s/70- similar in many ways - very strong batting and allrounders , great pace attack, a little short in spin department.

  • Glenn10 on January 12, 2013, 21:28 GMT

    Talk of a two tiered test platform is rubbish. You will lose most of the fans who are left. It was only 1 year ago we beat Australia? The problem here is simple. This SA team is possibly the greatest team to ever be assembled on the planet and to go in with key players out was always a big ask. Then to pick the wrong players of what we had available was simply criminal. Hessen should resign over this and McCullum offer the captaincy back to Taylor. Could be the biggest loss ever. Careers are on the line in the second dig, but I can't see it being much better. Anyone who thought the bowling was a strength had also better have a re-think. As I have been stating for weeks: Patel is not test standard, Wagner bowls one good spell and then can't get it above 130k, and Realistically Munro is a fill in. Boult is probably the best bowler but hardly a spearhead and Bracewell is in my opinion still out of form. As for the batting, get the broom. Only a 100 will save Guptil (from tests) and Flynn

  • C.A-SA1987 on January 12, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    @Posted by Kohli_DaBest on (January 12 2013, 20:09 PM GMT):

    "...with top cricket nations INDIA, AUS, ENG, SA playing each other in tier-A"

    One of these is NOT the same.

  • on January 12, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    Someone here posted that NZ were playing blind man bluff, be so woefull in the first that SA would be so complacent and NZ will do what they did to Aus and SL and hit the sucker punch. Bad news here is they are not playing a run of the mill Aus or SL outfit and by evidence I think realistically NZ stink more than stinky cheese and this is a harsh reality. This series is a complete embarrassment and you can almost sense the SA teams desperation to end this monotonous bore fest.

    Someone also posted that James Franklin is a more enviable proposition to coaches than Jacques Kallis, I am pretty sure that was a LillianThompson troll because no sane person will take that seriously.

    I really hope it ends tomorrow because it is a complete waste of airtime.

  • on January 12, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    @Kohli_DaBest: The state Ind team is in, ICC wont keep it in tier D believe me.

  • hitngiggles123 on January 12, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    on the 12/11/2010 ,nz cricket was sold a mazda 323 running 30psi boost,it ran good times ,but they didnt understand why ???,so they decided to wind the boost down think it would be more reliable ,hmmm maybe they forgot it was a mazda 323 ???

  • anwar10 on January 12, 2013, 21:13 GMT

    @ Kohli_DaBest according to your theory INDIA would not be in tier-a as they are currently ranked 5th while PAKISTAN would as they are 4th according to test rankings..... LOL at least look up the info ur typing

  • BokkeForever on January 12, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    Not sure if this a reflection of how good SA is or how poor the Kiwis are? Maybe a bit of both?

    To all SA fans, lets keep our feet on the ground. Remember what goes around comes around.

  • hhillbumper on January 12, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    It is a shame that new Zealand are missing some good players.Southee especially is developing int oa good quality bowler. Taylor not playing is also a big knock. They have some work to do to be sure but hope they get better after July

  • rivernile on January 12, 2013, 21:03 GMT

    @Kohli_DaBest - so you think that India are tier A material? May I please have some of what you are smoking? It is a shame about NZ cricket! The board should seriously look at the mirror and ponder if they are doing NZ cricket any favors? Taylor is the best captain option for test and should be picked as such.

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    @OzWally...Yes 15 matches tells the whole story. I you think you know what you're saying then you should be playing Cricket shouldn't you? :)

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    @Kohli_DaBest...Dude common are you serious? - India in tier A? unless its a joke or something.

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:39 GMT

    As the question was asked to the commentators: "Is this the best SA team of all time?" But they where hesitant to answer. I firmly believe that this is indeed. We've got a strong and solid batting lineup, and the worlds best bowling lineup. This is not NZ that must be critisized but SA's strong team that must be valued. Personally I think that there is no team in the world that can come close to SA. All thanks to Gary Kirsten!

  • DeckChairand6pack on January 12, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    The Green Machine is on fire! This is what we wanted to see, the Proteas wearing the number one tag with confidence and dominating as they should. Good to see Elgar getting his ton and Kleinveldt having some success. Hopefully they both crack on. If the Proteas are going to stay at the top for a while they will need 20 players, any of whom you could seleect, with strong competition for places. When Aus did it in the 90's and 00's they had a 2nd team that would walk into most country's 1st XI.

    NZ have some challenges at the moment, small nation in terms of population and player pool but they've never let that stop them before. They will be back

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:15 GMT

    A shambles, complete and utter. Shows us what happens when your 2 best batsmen are not playing(Taylor and Ryder). We know that they should have been in the team but obviously the NZ cric admin doesn't. They should go and go fast before the team is well and truly buried. I live here in NZ, love the place and love my cricket. It hurts and hurts bad when you see your team failing like this time and again. I mean, at least put up a goddamn fight and lose, not get road-rolled like this. News media and public pressure has to get the old men out and new guys ( cricketers) brought in to run the game. Or else its RIP NZ cricket. Sad, really sad!

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:13 GMT

    I heard some nz supporters saying how good they were in previous series when they drawn two matches, but they forgot they got saved only due to rain.

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:12 GMT

    The great S.A team of the 60's/70's had fiery pace,great batsmen,a prolific,aggressive scoring keeper batsman,seam bowling all rounders,a shrewd,iconic captain and great fielding plus a regulation spinner.In many ways they were the incarnation of modern cricket and the signature S.A combination.The current S.A outfit echoes many parallels and might become the great team of its era given that it has not been beaten on foreign soil since 2006.Of course no team is perfect-the great Windies did not have a Gilchrist nor a great spinner,the Warne era Aussies didn't have a great allrounder and the current Saffers dont have a great spinner.However they just might have the best specialist batting line up ever and if Duminy/Elgar cement that 7 spot then it will be truly formidable.I think the magnificent cricketers of the old S.A team like the Pollocks,Proccie,Barlow,Goddard,Richards were amazing but even they might have to take a back seat to the current powerhouse.Sorry Kiwis.

  • Kohli_DaBest on January 12, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    this surely calls for a two-tier test system., with top cricket nations INDIA, AUS, ENG, SA playing each other in tier-A while the rest can form a tier-B competition. otherwise all competitiveness from test cricket will be gone. fans losing interest.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 12, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    @mahjut

    I agree with you on all fronts. JP vs Elgar is a no brainer, against the Ozzies Elgar looked like a walking wicket and in the first test against NZ was very unsure. Faff on the other hand debutanted like a seasoned proffessional in that Adelaide Epic - I have never seen a new comer to test cricket so confident.

    Thami was hard done by, purely for the fact that he went back to first class cricket and improved himself - he also was the best gloveman in SA and in that season had a good average. People cry politcal foul when he was given a central contract, but lets be honest Boucher never had a great average either - so not much to lose. He was promised the gloves for NZ but AB has now decided he wants to keep - what to do....I dont RP will be dropped, SA have now finally realised you need to have a decent spinner to at least hold one end up and take a few wickets - which RP has done well so far (and can bat).

  • OzWally on January 12, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    Enough of the "removing test status" comments please. Test cricket needs more teams playing not less for the sport to grow. And NZ has at least 4 players out that would improve their team dramatically - Taylor (pouting), Southee & Vettori (injured) & Ryder (suspended??/injured).

    And also enough "lip" from the BD supporters - current ICC rankings - BD 9th place 15 matches 0 points - enough said.

  • on January 12, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    I believe that NewZealand are short of their five main players who shd have been playing but are out due to various reasons. The players which are Daniel Vettori, Ross Taylor, J.Ryder, Frankin and Southee, whose absence has seriously costed the NZ side already. With the retirement of a high calibre all rounder i.e. Jacob Oram, NZL cannot afford to drop these players thus it shall focus more on retaining as many as possible players from these. thus taylor, ryder and franklin must play the next game and bring the balance into this already imbalanced match.

  • talkcric.com on January 12, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    South African cricket is on a real high. Really classy batsmen and a bowling attack that is terrifiying. When you see the Indian attack compared to these ferocious South African quicks it makes you cringe.

    This South African unit would come out on top against the Australian team of the early 00's, mind blowingly good.

  • Stevo_NZ on January 12, 2013, 19:37 GMT

    Woke up this morning to see another NZ test fiasco. For the good of the game NZ needs to have its test status removed (much like Zimbabwe did) until NZ cricket can demonstrate it has a competent administration and a sound player development pathway. Having recently lived in NZ for 13 years the decline in NZ cricket has come as an avalanche. I personally blame the Rugby Union - they take all the sponsorship, eat in to the cricket season with their scheduling, take all the TV time, take the best athletes and take the best cricket grounds. NZ was strong in many mens sports in the 80's - now it is Rugby and rowing to the detriment of all other sports including cricket.

  • balajik1968 on January 12, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    South Africa are putting up a terrific performance, but for me it is sad to see New Zealand struggle this badly. I do remember in the early 80's when England were touring NZ, and took a huge innings lead or enforced the follow on. What followed was an epic ton from Jeremy Coney with some good support and the match was drawn. That got half a broadsheet in The Hindu. NZ were never a great team, but a highly competitive one through the 80's and 90's. They'd show a lot of spunk, a lot of fight. They did not win much, but they were respected opponents. I really wonder what's wrong now. They have a good bowling attack, but even they are struggling with the morale so low.

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 19:28 GMT

    @Ashik Imran: I'm not a NZ supporter I'm an SA supporter. This is an article on test matches not ODIs. I only mentioned Bangladesh to ask Bangladesh supporters to stop mentioning their team here as this is a NZ/SA article, and to stop calling for NZ to be thrown out of test cricket - because if you look at test results NZ have done far better than Bangladesh who lose almost every test.

  • on January 12, 2013, 19:13 GMT

    @ SurlyCynic : Donot compare NZ with BD team ! let NZ and BD play 3 tests in a neytral ground and see who win ! Bangladesh donot play test matches as frequently as NZ ! if played, they would have higher ranking than now... Donot undersetimate other cricketing nations to prove your supremacy. Just improve your own game. In ODIs Bangladesh is a superior team to NZ at this moment. Coz, Bangladesh is one of the countries that beat England in England and ofcourse in Bangladesh. Bangladesh is a country that beat SA already. Beat India and Srilanka last year. So may be, Bangladesh is not that good a test team. but how u can say thay BD should have no ranking point ! if yours is true than don't u think that NZ should give up playing tests for next 5 years ???

  • mahjut on January 12, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    Tommy tucker saffer ... it's great to see Elgar do well, brightens the future but JP takes his spot back immediately for me (really a no-brainer) - and de Kock? that's got to be too soon. Personally i wish they'd given Thami these two tests - he earned it in the 2011/12 FC season i think, with a 53 ave and 5x50s in 18 innings! I see him as a bit of a Bouch so against the top 5 test teams maybe he could build to that slowly. No disrespect to this NZ side (I'm a Zimbo and understand practicalities of sides blooding players) but they would have been a good reintroduction for him and reward - like Vern - for going back to the FC set up and developing his game. It's a moot point (unless they think JP replacing Elgar may be enough spin to replace RP with Thami - would be a mistake that i doubt the SA selectors would make) but i really feel for Thami.

  • Erebus26 on January 12, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    Losing wickets to Steyn and Morkel is par for the course but you know NZ are completely out of their depth when Peterson is making mugs out of them. But in fairness, this was simply the result of fierce and sustained pressure from the SA quicks. I don't know where the Black Caps can go from here. For this match it will be all about losing with grace by fighting in the second innings and trying to put a big score on the board. For the next series with England so big changes are going to have to be made - for me Guptill, Flynn, Patel, Franklin and Wagner are going to have to disappear. None of those guys have cut it for me in test cricket whilst Hesson and McCullum are going to have to kiss some serious backside to get Taylor back on board. Missing the likes of Vettori, Taylor and Southee during this series wouldn't have made much of a difference to the result of the series, but I don't think the defeats would've been as emphatic.

  • AzAb12754 on January 12, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    @SurlyCynic: Stop behaving silly look at the ranking table properly and see how many games teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe play who are unranked and that's why they have no points. The funny thing is though that you have a ranking table even though a few teams play Cricket lolz worry about your declining Sri Lanka instead of our team :P

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:56 GMT

    what happened to milne i thought he was a good bowler

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    This is all pretty embarrassing, isn't it? Time for the ICC to take drastic action, create a couple of new teams & implement a three-division Test championship incorporating an annual one-up, one-down league structure with four teams in each division playing two-Test series home & away against each other (total: 12 Tests each).

    It'd look like this: Division One: South Africa, England, Australia & South African Exiles (Compton, Lumb, Trott, Pietersen, Munro, Kieswetter, Prior, Henderson, Meaker, Wagner & Dernbach); Division Two: Pakistan, West Indies, Sri Lanka & an Associates' XI; Division Three: Bangladesh, Zimbabwe, New Zealand & India.

  • CoolWorthy on January 12, 2013, 18:49 GMT

    Wow!! What a performance by SA....i have watched every ball of the 2nd day and to be noted that how good the test matches are....I am an Indian and saying this the test cricket is the most exciting one to watch....Look at the SA batting/bowling compared to NZ batting/bowling.....there is nothing wrong with the pitch or the conditions...all that matters is the mental balance and how good you are on the field...it was amazing to watch Steyn and Morkel bowling together...and look at the accuracy they were bowling, simply amazing...best example for their coordination is the wicket of Williamson...Morkel set up with raw and Steyn followed with aggressive...even the Rory and Pieterson....look at their confidence...i bow my head to these bunch of SA group...

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 18:43 GMT

    Warm_Coffee: NZ are not below Bangladesh on the ranking table in tests so please stop bringing up Bangladesh here. I don't think Bangladesh even have any ranking points in tests as they lose almost all their games.

  • NasserAliKhan on January 12, 2013, 18:43 GMT

    Is this guy called Saud nuts? As a Pakistani supporter, I would not gloat over NZ's annihilation in SA. May be he needs to read a bit and look at our performance in SA and Aus. Absolute rubbish when even our "world calss" batsmen like Inzimam, and Younis Khan failed repeatedly. May I also INFORM Saud that Pak population is 185 million while NZ's is not even 4 million. In other words there are 46 Pakistanis for every New Zealander and NZ are world class in many games while Pakistan can't even get a measley Bronze in the Olympics. Face the facts and only then can you hope to deal with your problems effectively.

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:42 GMT

    I am a proud South African and love when we win but I have to say one thing about my fellow SA supporters, we lose badly and we are bad winners as well.

  • Sudhir65 on January 12, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    I would request BCCI to please invite New Zealand and Sri Lanka to India for Test and ODI series. India is feeling very low right now but if NZ or Sri Lanka visit here, there could be smiles on Indians' faces.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 12, 2013, 18:31 GMT

    @quittthewhinging It really is a tough one to work out and answer. What happens when Duminy comes back? Duminy before he got injured was in excellent form and now with Elgar finding his feet, Faff in terrific form and the potential inclusion of De Kock in the test team in the future as keeper, there is going to be a serious scrap for places !! Who do you drop ??!! I'm a big fan of Faff and Duminy, woudnt want either to get dropped which means thats Elgar and de Kock excluded from the test team (for now).

  • Smahuta on January 12, 2013, 18:28 GMT

    @Maani >Pakistan will be no different. They cant handle the conditions in Sa much better than NZ can. Those tests will last 4 days instead of 3. It will be different when they play on those flat tracks in the UAE but the result will be the same anyway.

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    Syed, my man! U r forgetting we won a series against the Kiwis not too long ago. So if we whitewash them again, it will be a mere repeat of what we did earlier.

  • Warm_Coffee on January 12, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    @Andrew Warren: The only reason why I think Taylor was sacked was because New Zealand slipped below Bangladesh in the ranking table so the people were probably finding an excuse to unfairly blame someone. Taylor was a good captain.

  • duncanmoo on January 12, 2013, 18:25 GMT

    @maaanii of course SA supporters are excited; No 1 and keeping it up, it looks good. Eng in UK, but they had an internal KP issue (arn't they always?), AUS in AUS, but it was close, NZ at home, but they also had an admin melt-down. Who is left, SL, AUS just beat them, IND, but ENG just beat them; AAAAAH PAK, some real competition! Something worth watching! YAY!

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    Hey try the Tigers. We would score more than 48 I promise. If that lunatic Tamim decides to stick around in the crease long enough, we can score upwards of 200. What do u have to lose? This will be your chance to groom a new kid for cricket on the premier stage.

  • Lermy on January 12, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    NZ totally outclassed in every facet. Don't deserve to be on the same field as SA. You can't even say that this is good practice for SA for upcoming tests. I'm just sorry I missed the NZ innings, as it is compelling ineptness against good bowling. There is nothing to build on, no foundation at all, please nobody look for "positives". Let's bury the corpse. None of these NZ players are capable of playing test cricket against top sides and the sooner that is recognised the better. They don't even belong in the third division! This is men playing school boys!

  • tickcric on January 12, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    I watched (TV) the final hour & the South African bowling was real good. Alongside the crowd was having a great time ! Music groups generated amazing atmosphere at St George's Park! Can't remember having seen that before in South African grounds. Even Graeme Smith acknowledged their wonderful job with a clap. Nice to see.

  • on January 12, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    New Zealand have themselves to blame for this shambles. Why was Taylor sacked? Where is Southee? Vettori is sorely missed. On the other hand you have to admire how good this SA team are. How great is it when your no. 6 and 7 can both produce centuries against a tiring attack. And a batting lineup that can withstand Steyn, Morkel and Philander, still has to put up with Kallis's annoyingly powerful swing bowling and a spinner who is not afraid to tempt you. This is our best side since readmission. We mustn't get too arrogant though. Pakistan wiped the floor with England (3-0), and they will wipe the floor with us too if we allow ourselves to get big headed.

  • kiwicricketnut on January 12, 2013, 18:09 GMT

    Come home you're embarrassing yourself and your fans not only that you are undoing all the good work of the NZ cricket teams before you that made teams respect us through gutsy performances. Being rolled for under 100 was always on the cards, but our pace attack (apparently our strength) looked toothless and never looked like taking a wicket on a pitch with that much variable bounce this now makes not only our batting a disgrace but our bowlers have caught the disease too. The good news is only way is up from rock bottom.

  • hash98 on January 12, 2013, 18:08 GMT

    test cricket is already facing challenges for being such a long event and then to see such dismal performance, its disappointing for the fans. It could be the internal politics where a world class batsmen Ross Taylor pulled out or it could be the fact that NZ cricket needs a complete overhaul. In my view countries Ireland and Afghanistan should be given a chance to play test cricket and there should be a format where qualified countries like NZ, Bangladesh, Zimbabwe should get the run for their money - atleast they should fight for retaining test status. Please no offense to any country supporters, I am only highlighting a need to give a chance to other countries as well.

  • Harlequin. on January 12, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    @ShrikantG, are you suggesting that your 4-y-o son go out to bat against Steyn and Morkel? Now what did I do with that NSPCC number..... ;)

  • BravoBravo on January 12, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    NZ, IND must be now stripped off of their test status or be on probationary status. Cricket Fans do not have to suffer through this kind of mismatches ENG vs IND, AUS vs IND,and now NZ vs SA. They (IND, NZ) are atleast playing for last 80 years each. Why they are playing international matches even now? Deserving team like Ireland, Afghanistan should be given test status. @The_Ashes "Don't understand why New Zealand avoid matches against teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh." NZ has the same reason as IND does for not playing with BD, ZIM. Because, BD and ZIM are better teams as compared to IND and NZ and they loose against them, and then they wont have any place else to hide.

  • 200ondebut on January 12, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    No need to panic just yet - NZ have the bravehearted Patel due in next. He'll tough it out regardless of what is thrown at him.

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Cricket shouldn't be this depressing.

  • quittthewhinging on January 12, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    @ SurlyCynic. I'm a Duminy fan but, it's by no means certain that he will be the one to replace Elgar. That's one permutation. It looks as if they may be planning to let de Kock, not de Villiers, keep in the one-dayers. If he performs maybe they will go the whole hog & select him for the Test team too. de Villiers cannot be the long term solution to the w/k problem. If they do select de Kock then he would fill the #7 spot. Bit tough on Elgar I guess.

  • SyedAreYouDumb on January 12, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    The way New Zealand are playing, when they tour Bangladesh this year, they will find it hard to beat them as well. So what are New Zealand good at playing: spin or pace? From the looks of it… none!

  • ReverseSwingMaster on January 12, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    Look at these over excited Saffas over their performance against minnow, thinking that they are invincible,unbeatable. Lucky to survive against AUS and soon their so called mighty batsmen will be tested hard against PAK bowlers.

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    everyone is dissing NZ but very few realize that SA are just a great test team at the moment, i just hope and pray this invincible phase passes when pak get there in feb, although i think pak may surprise us all (even me) anyway congras to SA for some great cricket

  • RandyOZ on January 12, 2013, 17:26 GMT

    I seriously cannot believe how good South Africa are considering they now have to fill 2 and a half International Cricket teams. Well played.

  • RichDeGroen on January 12, 2013, 17:25 GMT

    SA are a fantastic side. They are ruthlessly, and at times beautifully destroying a NZ side already staggering from shooting themselves in the foot before arriving in SA. Having said that: How many times do we need to see Guptill pushing forward, hands well well out from under his eyes and nicking out in identical fashion? How many times do we need to see Williamson playing from the crease, pushing at wide, wiiiiide deliveries and nicking out? How many times do we have to see McCullum doing a pantomime of 'knuckling down' only to throw it away and get himself out slogging? It's all so tedious and repetitive for a NZ cricket supporter.

  • OzWally on January 12, 2013, 17:24 GMT

    A much improved NZ performance in this test. They've lasted longer than 20 overs AND scored more than 45. I really expect them to put the hammer down tomorrow and plow their way through the mythical (for them) 3 figures mark.

    And what a great knock from the Captain. Saw off the new ball and when the team was nicely positioned at 4-39 and had a good look at the spinner (1 ball), went on the attack, and was unluckily dismissed by a great catch at deep backward 1st slip. If it wasn't for the extremely deep boundaries, he would have been justly rewarded, SA really caught a break there.

  • suve on January 12, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    @ EnglishCricket: Why are you bringing Sri lanka into this?. Sri lanka put up a great fight and won a test match convincingly vs the same SA bowling attack last year. New Zealand have some players that are world class and are going through a bad patch just like England did last year and India right now. Ireland have no chance of getting Test Status in the next 10 years. They will continue to play T20's in world cups to fill up the spaces left by teams like Canada and Netherlands.

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 12, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    Now I know why the administrators started the test match on Friday. It ensures that even if the game ends in 3 days at least people at the ground can watch some cricket over the weekend. I think NZ will be rolled out by lunch tomorrow and SA will put into bat again, they will probably survive until lunch or tea on day 4. Think this game will be over by stumps day 4.

    NZ next opponents are England. England and SA are head and shoulders the 2 best teams in the world at the moment, followed by Pakistan in 3rd place, 4th India and Australia in 5th.

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    India,Sri Lanka and New zealand are going through a similar phase...Newzealand and Sri Lanka are playing away from home so their woes are more than apparent as they have no way out... India is playing at home and just because of their home advantage they are able to win some matches just enough to keep them afloat...i would back Sri Lanka to perform better at home but new zealand would struggle even at home against top sides...at the moment its all south Africa as they have a really strong side and can beat any team any ground with their flawless batting and supreme bowling... Pakistan has a nearly as good bowling attack but they lack in batting...the teams that can run south Africa close are Australia , England and possibly Pakistan...west indies have just hitters in their line up and Bangladesh have lots and lots to prove to be considered as a good team...its evident that south Africa is the best team by far in test cricket and team that manages to beat them will be over joyed.

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:10 GMT

    Oh oh...I think the kiwis need to play India at Auckland to get back confidence ;) Anyway I hope NZ fight - as a neutral am disappointed at such one-sided contests.

  • avas on January 12, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    its painful to see a score sheet like that.. Come on New Zealand, please

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    Commiserations to NZ. This reminds me of some of the steamrollerings England received from the 1970s / 80s great West Indian sides. I hope this is taken in the right way, but I didn't post the following deliberately after the first test, though I thought it at the time. IMHO, rather than the naughty boy nets after the 1st Test, NZ may have been better off with a good sports psychologist. I've always been wary of this 'pseudo-science' but when one's confidence is so-battered, then perhaps it's worth trying. If not then one or more could end up so shell shocked they'll not play again - and they haven't all become inept cricketers overnight. I'm sure every single one just wants to get home. The ODIs could be hell

  • on January 12, 2013, 17:05 GMT

    Come on! Surely, New Zealand are better than this! Let's hope for a fightback of sorts tomorrow, this is embarrassingly one-sided. BJ Watling century tomorrow? You never know! ;)

    SA are just at another level to every other team out there. Elgar's got his first century out of the way now, maybe he can kick on from here like Faf Du Plessis has.

  • ShrikantG on January 12, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    I am very dishearten to see the poor (well that is also not so fit word) performance by an international team. If my 4 year son can stack building with 52 playing cards, then why the 11 totally mature cricketers are struggling to make even 50. Really hard to understand, may be apart from coach and other medical staff, NZ Team needs a Eye Doctor to make sure that there is nothing wrong with the players vision.

  • Armoured_cricket on January 12, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Well played South Africa! Pity your country's majority can't watch your supremacy on TV thanks to the utterly useless SABC........

  • ShrikantG on January 12, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    I am very dishearten to see the poor (well that is also not so fit word) performance by an international team. If my 4 year son can stack building with 52 playing cards, why not the 11 totally mature cricketers struggle to make even 50. Really hard to understand, may be apart from coach and other medical staff, NZ Team needs a Eye Doctor to make sure that there is nothing wrong with the players vision.

  • neo-galactico on January 12, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Wow! I'm so bored. A classic example of men versus boys. New Zealand weren't expected to win but for them to surrender so meekly is disgraceful. Where are the Pakistanis, get here quick and save for from watching such horrendous cricketing displays shown by the Black Caps. And honestly the Proteas wouldn't lose sleep over Taylor, Vettori etc even if they were here.

  • on January 12, 2013, 16:55 GMT

    A terrible mismatch for sure. NZ score more is some rugby games than they do in cricket these days. What a pity because in the past we have had som great contests against them at cricket. Is it that the administators have messed upor the more likely scenario that NZ just DONT have anty depth

  • The_Ashes on January 12, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    Not enough teams in Test Cricket so that's why these kind of matches cannot be refused. Might as well include Ireland because there already so many weaker teams in Cricket. I wonder what England will do to this team home and away? :D

    Don't understand why New Zealand avoid matches against teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh.

  • jacobs_the_man on January 12, 2013, 16:50 GMT

    Its not just watching thats embarrassing.Its reading these comments from people around the world,listening to the SA commentators with the distain in their voices,and its all completely warranted as we are a joke.At least we get a respite when we get back home and only have to play the 2nd best team in the world,England.Yippee!

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    I hope those who said Steyn could only bowl 135kph these days (like LillianOZ) were watching Steyn's 147kph thunderbolts, but then it seems these people don't watch much cricket anyway (and assume speedguns are set up the same on every tour).

    Anyway, great work by the three centurions and all the bowlers! Don't worry Morne, your luck will change. And although some will say Elgar's century 'only' came against NZ, he was playing for his career and was under a lot of pressure.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on January 12, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    Well done SA, on a helpful wicket you'd expect the no.1 test team to bowl as well as they did. New Zealand have shown this series how close they are to Australia, who performed about the same they did against this strong SA side.

  • EnglishCricket on January 12, 2013, 16:44 GMT

    New Zealand should be stripped of full status and be given to a deserving team like Ireland. You expect at least a top 8 team to put up a fight. Sri Lanka can be said of the same.

  • Inducker on January 12, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    @Albert Dominique Thomas I guess the answer lies with cricket administrators. You leave a world top 10 batsman at home at your peril. Heavens, SA has had its fair share of administrative problems with political agendas and with appointments of people like Norman Arendse and with excess numbers of blazered dead wood cluttering up the board room SA will continue to have their off field problems.. Don't bet on SA's run at the top in tests (with top coaches like Kirsten and Donald who have been there finally in charge) not being messed up. As an example I recall being in the crowd at Newlands when Norman Arendse used a farewell speech to one of SA's greatest cricketers Shaun Pollock to congratulate his daughter on her birthday. A deliberate insult in my view.

  • m.marshalldgreatest on January 12, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    The Kiwis always talk a good match beforehand, take Neil Wagner who said that he will relish bowling to Dean Elgar who would still be feeling nervous and unssure after a bad start to his test career. A long on six answered Mr Wagner's question! Good SA players end up playing for England, not sure about the ones playing for New Zealand.

  • EnglishCricket on January 12, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    lool!!! Another double figure all out New Zealand new minnows. Feel bad for tv companies, sponsorships for the match not lasting 5 days, too one-sided etc I agree with MaskRider why are New Zealand playing the big teams so much and not teams ranked around them? this is insane.

  • Lesiba on January 12, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    As a South African fan, I am enjoying SA's performance but I wouldn't say it's fun seeing NZ crumble this way. Clearly the problems that have plagued NZ's off-the-field have had a disastrous effect on this team.

    Sanity is required and changes are required from the coaching team upwards before the players themselves are blamed for this mess.

  • Gareth_Bain on January 12, 2013, 16:34 GMT

    I was at the pub, but Steyn's spell made me want to hide behind the couch...

    It's in one way sad for NZ to suffer this, with Taylor and Ryder they might not have suffered quite such disgrace. It's a warning to RSA as to the effect mis-administration can have on the team...

  • on January 12, 2013, 16:30 GMT

    Only hope now is for NZ to declare overnight!

  • on January 12, 2013, 16:29 GMT

    Is it to early to say GAME, SET and MATCH!

  • gtruds on January 12, 2013, 16:28 GMT

    well...gotta applaud sa...they r invincible @ home 2 say the least....nz cricket doesnt use their young talents properly n it shows..1st of all change the coach!he hasnt played a single match in his life!

  • avmd on January 12, 2013, 16:27 GMT

    Stop this please, this is no match, this is not test cricket. let NZ play with BD, Zimb, SL and India, but not with big boys of test cricket, please.

  • on January 12, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    SA are an excellent unit-well done to Kirsy and his subjects.A log of the best and the less successful must come into fruition.It will be good for the sport,the players and the sponsors.The propagation of cricket by the ICC must be stepped up.NZ are not on the same ship.Need a bit more bite and mental toughness.The heros of yesteryear should step up to the plate and give their talents to the new generation.Meanwhile SA can be very happy on their days play especially the new kids on the block

  • TommytuckerSaffa on January 12, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    What an amazing venue to watch Test cricket - well done Port Elizabeth the singing and band were awesome !!!

    Dale Steyn bowling hostile at 147kph, Morkely battering Williamson and Kleinveldt coming to the party with great swing bowling.

    FAFF another Ton and well done to Elgar for getting his maide ton. Amla just cant stop scoring Tons. Well done boys. I genuinely feel sorry for the Kiwis, i dont know what their next move is. PROTEA POWER !!!!

  • on January 12, 2013, 16:25 GMT

    After the retirement of Jayawardene and Sangakara, I am sure, Sri Lanka will not be the same test side. Now we are left with a scenario. Make two groups - Group A. South Africa, Australia, England and Pakistan. Group B. India, Sri Lanka, New Zealand and Bangladesh. INDIA CAN NEVER, REPEAT NEVER, BE THE SAME TEST TEAM EVER IN FUTURE.

  • on January 12, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    This is kinda sad. Where has NZ cricket gone. They use to produce some really good players and were competitive. Now look at this team.

  • Captainman on January 12, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    I really don't understand why New Zealand are allowed to play so many games against teams like South Africa and England when they are no match for them. Instead play teams like Sri Lanka and Bangladesh because this series has been so one sided that it has become a no contest practice game for South Africa.

  • on January 12, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    @Sam Sloane

    What are you on about? SA hold the ICC Test Mace. Meaningless matches - They beat Aus and England away For many Test cricket is the pinnacle and ODIs and T20s are a side show

    BTW - Fyi they wopn the ICC Champions trophy in 1998

  • THE_MIZ on January 12, 2013, 15:35 GMT

    And another one for the naysayers! Kleinveldt bowling hostile and picks up two!

  • on January 12, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    wow sad to see new zealand getting hamered like this looks like australia, england and south africa are the only good test teams left

  • on January 12, 2013, 15:29 GMT

    Only a few are maiden centurions.. Well done Dean

  • Smahuta on January 12, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Actually Sam, SA have won the ICC tournament in 1998. Not a world cup but still an ICC trophy. The test team is waaaaay better than the one day side though, they don't even compare.

  • stone-mason on January 12, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    Great Play Proteas. My early observation is that it didnt take long for someone to make a detracting comment to the events on the playing field. Test cricket is played amongs 10 various nations - we all know who they are. From time-to-time we will get the top rated nations playing each other and all of these top sides will eventually play the lower ranked teams, hence Sa playing the Black Caps. Why is it that there are always Sam Sloanes around. Why Mr Sloane has this now a meaningless match? And why Mr Sloane do you feel this as the opportunity to mention SA has not won a major international cricket trophy? Yes we have won an ICC trophy and yes we have been battling to secure a world cup trophy. However we are playing TEST cricket now, where SA happens to dominate in this match and the several we have played in the last two years. Why not comment on how SA is the only current test teamwho boasts the ntire top 7 batters having test centuries? Perhaps just watch & comment not?

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Sam Sloane: Maybe some of us care more about tests than limited overs 'trophies'. SA did actually win a Champion's trophy in the 90s but your comment just shows how 'memorable' that is.

  • THE_MIZ on January 12, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    And then they said Steyn supposedly lost his pace , outswing and is fading! 147kph not quick, right? What a joke by all those people who criticised him before this game...haha!

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Sam Sloane, do you honestly think England ans Australian matches are meaningless?

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:49 GMT

    Well done to Dean Elgar. Equally well done to the captain for giving him the time to reach his century. Team building at its beat.

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    sth africa just win and win and win... meaningless matches. they have had simply the greatest batters, bowlers and allrounders of all time... but happen to have never won an international cricket trophy.

  • on January 12, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    South Africa becoming a very good no.1 test team and they fully deserve it their top 5/6 is frightening and they bat long and their bowling attack is one of the best i reckon they will be at the top for a while yet

  • on January 12, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    Coming up another big defeat....hang in there NZ....you don't want to lose your supremacy over the bottom 4.

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    Good to see Elgar finally get some runs. Amazing how after just one test everyone called for him to be dropped, surely someone with a FC average of 50 deserves more than a test or two to prove himself. After all, Thami got 3 tests against England, averaged 9 and dropped crucial catches leading to us losing the series.

    I always thought Elgar should also get 3 tests - but Duminy will still take his place when fit (and adds useful offspin).

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  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 11:01 GMT

    Good to see Elgar finally get some runs. Amazing how after just one test everyone called for him to be dropped, surely someone with a FC average of 50 deserves more than a test or two to prove himself. After all, Thami got 3 tests against England, averaged 9 and dropped crucial catches leading to us losing the series.

    I always thought Elgar should also get 3 tests - but Duminy will still take his place when fit (and adds useful offspin).

  • on January 12, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    Coming up another big defeat....hang in there NZ....you don't want to lose your supremacy over the bottom 4.

  • on January 12, 2013, 13:57 GMT

    South Africa becoming a very good no.1 test team and they fully deserve it their top 5/6 is frightening and they bat long and their bowling attack is one of the best i reckon they will be at the top for a while yet

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:31 GMT

    sth africa just win and win and win... meaningless matches. they have had simply the greatest batters, bowlers and allrounders of all time... but happen to have never won an international cricket trophy.

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:49 GMT

    Well done to Dean Elgar. Equally well done to the captain for giving him the time to reach his century. Team building at its beat.

  • on January 12, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Sam Sloane, do you honestly think England ans Australian matches are meaningless?

  • THE_MIZ on January 12, 2013, 15:00 GMT

    And then they said Steyn supposedly lost his pace , outswing and is fading! 147kph not quick, right? What a joke by all those people who criticised him before this game...haha!

  • SurlyCynic on January 12, 2013, 15:01 GMT

    Sam Sloane: Maybe some of us care more about tests than limited overs 'trophies'. SA did actually win a Champion's trophy in the 90s but your comment just shows how 'memorable' that is.

  • stone-mason on January 12, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    Great Play Proteas. My early observation is that it didnt take long for someone to make a detracting comment to the events on the playing field. Test cricket is played amongs 10 various nations - we all know who they are. From time-to-time we will get the top rated nations playing each other and all of these top sides will eventually play the lower ranked teams, hence Sa playing the Black Caps. Why is it that there are always Sam Sloanes around. Why Mr Sloane has this now a meaningless match? And why Mr Sloane do you feel this as the opportunity to mention SA has not won a major international cricket trophy? Yes we have won an ICC trophy and yes we have been battling to secure a world cup trophy. However we are playing TEST cricket now, where SA happens to dominate in this match and the several we have played in the last two years. Why not comment on how SA is the only current test teamwho boasts the ntire top 7 batters having test centuries? Perhaps just watch & comment not?

  • Smahuta on January 12, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Actually Sam, SA have won the ICC tournament in 1998. Not a world cup but still an ICC trophy. The test team is waaaaay better than the one day side though, they don't even compare.