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De Kock free to play against NZ

Firdose Moonda

January 17, 2013

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Quinton de Kock plays a pull, South Africa v New Zealand, 1st Twenty20 international, Durban, December 21, 2012
Quinton de Kock made his international debut against New Zealand last month © Gallo Images
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Quinton de Kock's disciplinary hearing for allegedly pushing an opposition player in a first-class match will not take place before next Wednesday, which has cleared him to play in the first two ODIs against New Zealand. Gary Kirsten confirmed de Kock will keep in all the matches he plays in the series.

To help de Kock prepare for his fifty-over international debut, team management roped in the services of Mark Boucher, who trained with him at Claremont Cricket Club on Thursday. "When Mark retired I said to him that his experience in international cricket is something I wouldn't want to turn away," Kirsten said. "I think he has a lot to offer. We felt the perfect place for him would be to be with a young keeper like Quinton, to spend some time with him and give him and understanding not only of the skills required but the pressures of international competition."

Mentoring de Kock also seems to be part of integrating him into the national structures because he has only emerged on the circuit quite recently. De Kock is a former South Africa Under-19s player but this is first season contracted to a franchise and Kirsten admitted he does not know much about the 20-year-old. "I've met this guy once before and the longest conversation I had with him was one minute," he said.

Kirsten's assistant, Russell Domingo, may have slightly more information on the youngster. Domingo coached the national side during de Kock's debut: the T20 series against New Zealand in which he also donned the gloves. All evidence suggests de Kock has been earmarked as a permanent replacement for AB de Villiers, who seems set to give up wicketkeeping in limited-overs. "We want to give AB a chance to just be the captain," Kirsten said.

"We feel that to captain, bat at No.4 and keep is a very hard task. It's something that we spoke about even before he started the role because I was concerned that it was going to be too much to ask of him. He really wants to focus his attention on his captaincy."

De Villiers was named South Africa's limited-overs captain in July 2011. He missed his inaugural series as leader against Australia in late 2011 because of injury and Hashim Amla stood in for him. De Villiers was first in charge for the 3-2 win over Sri Lanka last January. He also captained in the T20 and ODI series in England and the World T20 in Sri Lanka. He kept wicket in all those matches but did not play the T20 series against New Zealand, citing fatigue and a focus on his Test keeping.

It has now emerged that de Villiers also finds wicket-keeping in ODIs too taxing on his chronically bad back and does not feel he has enough of a grip on the demands of captaincy to do both jobs. "He has had all this on his shoulders," Kirsten said. "He feels keeping in 50 overs is more intense than in a Test match and he just needs to understand how he is going to go about captaining this team."

Some of the strategies de Villiers will have to get his head around are the floating batting line-up and the possibility of changing personnel. Both are tactics Kirsten will continue with, although he has indicated he may rein in the former. "We've tried to rotate the batting order, we feel we need to find a middle road there," he said. "We are certainly going to be flexible. We believe that is the way forward but, at the same time, we cannot be silly about it."

Kirsten suggested that Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel, the two quicks who play all three formats for South Africa, will be rested for some of the three ODIs because the three-Test series against Pakistan is only two weeks away. "Test cricket is our number one and we want to make sure we pick a full strength team in whatever Test we play. We don't rest players and rotate at that level," he said. "With the other versions, because there is a lot of cricket, something has to give. These guys are fit enough to play every game but I want them mentally 100 percent ready to deliver."

Although Kirsten's main emphasis is on Test cricket, South Africa will not have as taxing a year as they did in 2012. Their only away tour in which they will play in the longest format is to the UAE to face Pakistan in October.

Contrastingly, South Africa play much more ODI cricket this year. Eight matches at home (three against New Zealand, five against Pakistan) will be followed by the Champions Trophy and a limited-overs tour of Sri Lanka. With one eye on ICC silverware, Kirsten indicated the 50-over game will come into the spotlight in 2013, where he hopes South Africa can step up.

"We would like to perform at a higher level than we have done so far," he said. "We've been ok but we haven't been outstanding. We've got a great opportunity this year so there will be a lot more emphasis on ODI cricket this year."

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by SurlyCynic on (January 18, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

Other players who were initially regarded as good batsmen who needed more work on their keeping: Gilchrist, Dhoni, Boucher, Prior.

Posted by quittthewhinging on (January 18, 2013, 13:32 GMT)

@Gilly4ever. You make good points. 1) He was riled and he has to learn not to react. I remember when Kallis burst on the scene, he completely ignored sledging from the Aussies to the extent that the OZ players wanted to know whether he was deaf. 2) Obviously he cannot be regarded as a world class keeper at this stage; only time will tell. But he is athletic with a quick eye and that will stand him in good stead.

Posted by quittthewhinging on (January 18, 2013, 12:48 GMT)

I'd watch it if I were Gray from the Cobras. If there is going to be a dustup behind the cycle sheds, my money would be on de Kock. lol. Check out his arms in that pic of him with the rugby ball. He is what we in Pretoria call a "bulletjie" (little bull) and he seems to have the aggression to match. Go get him Quinton!

Posted by Saffa_1 on (January 18, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

Have to agree with Lillian. Quinton de Kock should be given the nod ahead of Dean Elgar. But where does that leave JP upon his return?

Posted by SurlyCynic on (January 18, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

@LillianThomson - I also hope as much of the population as possible plays cricket, I just want the best possible test team and if we discover our own Lara or Marshall I will be delighted. I don't think this depends on a 32 yr old keeper coming into the team though. Ntini played more than 100 tests and is the second highest wicket taker in SA history. Phangiso and Tsotsobe are in the limited overs team, while Gqamane is a rising star of great talent.

All these players earned their spot on merit. Would playing Tsolekile suddenly generate more interest in young African kids? If the debate is between pure 'keeping' skills and a keeper who bats then that is fair enough, although most countries these days go for a keeper who averages more than 30 at FC level.

Posted by LillianThomson on (January 18, 2013, 4:12 GMT)

@SurlyCynic I will spoil our new-found agreement by saying that I view Tsolekile as keeper as a similar but different sort of long-term investment.

de Kock as keeper in 2013 is a bid to ensure that as many as possible of the 2015 Test first eleven players are of genuine world class.

Tsolekile as keeper in 2013 is a bid to ensure to ensure that as many as possible of the 2025 Test first eleven players are of genuine world class because young Africans are engaged now.

I don't support transformation for window-dressing reasons. I support it for pragmatic reasons, because South Africa is already the number 1 team, and if it can fully mobilise the entire population base it has the potential to be a superpower.

I'd be happy with either de Kock or Tsolekile as keeper in the forthcoming Pakistan series. But I'm disappointed by de Villiers occupying that role, which strikes me as short-sighted.

India has shown what happens when you prioritise the short-term.

Posted by Robster1 on (January 18, 2013, 0:50 GMT)

Great idea to have Boucher involved at the highest level - it seems as though Vilas is now the "reserve".

Posted by SurlyCynic on (January 17, 2013, 23:50 GMT)

@LillianThomson : I actually agree with you, and the example of Boucher is a good one. But at the moment I'm just glad De Kock is being given a chance in limited overs cricket, so he can show what he can do and take the gloves from AB in the near future.

I haven't seen him make mistakes keeping, and his batting talent is exceptional. Since the T20 v NZ he's actually been opening the batting for his province and keeping (as Thami was carrying an injury), which is quite amazing for a 20 yr old - and he made a 50 in each of the 3 games. Earlier in the season he hit the best 50 over century (off 70 balls) I've seen from an SA keeper.

But if you lived in SA you'd realise what a controversy there has been over Tsolekile not playing tests, and how some journalists have been attacking De Kock for not being 'international material' yet. So I'm just glad he's getting some sort of exposure. Keepers who can bat in the top 4 are rare, as are 20 yr olds with his FC average.

Posted by Soso_killer on (January 17, 2013, 23:29 GMT)

As for Elgar, i think people are writting him off too soon. The guy averages 50 in first class cricket give him a chance. He has only played 3 matches and only 4 innings out of 6. Let him play the full Pakistan series and then we can talk.

Otherwise everything is simple Elgar is competing with de Cock, and Faff with JP. Depth is looking good for SA.

Posted by Soso_killer on (January 17, 2013, 23:23 GMT)

@Lillian Test Cricket is not the only way to groom a youngster. Look at Faff.

However if he is going to be groomed through limited overs cricket then he needs to bat high up the order so that he can learn how to build an innings. Maybe rest Smith during this series and let him open with Amla.

The bonus for SA is that he opens the batting for his franchise so he will learn how to build earn innings quickly.

Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (January 17, 2013, 22:44 GMT)

@axe_hay and SurlyCynic - Tsolekile isn't good enough a batsman for Tests (although SA have more than enough batsmen to cover it up). Likewise, I've just remembered who van Wyk is: that bloke who played in the last World Cup and looked utterly clueless against spin. I don't rate him. Jacobs, Vilas and Kuhn are players I don't know enough about to comment, but de Kock looks like an exciting prospect: I'd be tempted to suggest he's the man for the future & should be picked in all competitions now. I'd be concerned if this disciplinary issue was evidence of a lack of maturity & not a one-off. I recall being unimpressed with Mark Boucher early in his international career, but turned out OK didn't he?

@Sohaibmirza - You would appear to be a rising star of comedy. If you manage to get a DVD of your live shows out before next Christmas, let me know so I can put it on my wish list. However, winning against India with what was effectively a 9-man team is a punchline that'll take some beating.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 17, 2013, 21:27 GMT)

@axe_hay yes its true and isnt it good news. Why bother with average keepers when you can have one of the most talented keeper/batsmen to hit the face of the planet since Gilcrest, and only 20 yrs old. Great news.

@Sohaibmirza we are waiting for you and you are going to get a cricketing lesson. Our tracks are not like the flatbeds in the UAE. Steyn and co are going to rip through your batting line up like hot knife to butter.

Posted by Sohaibmirza on (January 17, 2013, 20:44 GMT)

SA.. we are coming soon .be prepared .we rushed on india .so you should be aware .

Posted by SurlyCynic on (January 17, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

axe_hay: If AB is injured in the Pakistan tour Thami will keep as he is the reserve test keeper. De Kock is the limited overs keeper. This may change in a year or so but it's pretty clear that that's the current situation.

Posted by axe_hay on (January 17, 2013, 17:35 GMT)

So this means that the international careers of Hieno Kuhn , Morne van Wyk,Davy Jacobs, Dane Vilas and Thami Tsolekile are over unless Quinton fails at the international level miserably .

Posted by GoCho on (January 17, 2013, 17:34 GMT)

Please learn Indian selectors! "Test cricket is our number one and we want to make sure we pick a full strength team in whatever Test we play. We don't rest players and rotate at that level". Not that we have 1 half decent fast bowler but getting our priorities right can be a good start.

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