Pakistan in South Africa 2013-14 November 8, 2013

PCB and CSA to increase ties

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The PCB and CSA have agreed a Memorandum of Understanding that will increase cricketing ties between the two countries. Pakistan will tour South Africa later this month, filling a void left by India's truncated visit, and the boards have now signalled their intention to cooperate further after a meeting between Najam Sethi, the interim PCB chairman, and the CSA chief executive, Haroon Lorgat, in Abu Dhabi.

The arrangement could see more Pakistani players taking part in South Africa's domestic competitions. Sethi said that it was time for the PCB "to stand with CSA", while Lorgat welcomed Pakistan's decision to come to South Africa for three ODIs and two T20s in November, following the ongoing meeting between the two teams in the UAE.

"[The] ideal thing would be for us is to play a series at home but unfortunately for various reasons that is not possible," Sethi said. "It's important for our players at the national and Under-19 levels to play internationally and I am very keen to support that, so when the opportunity came along, although it's a tight time frame, it was time for us to stand with CSA. We don't end up making too much money but we don't lose anything and our boys get to play South Africa in South Africa, which is very exciting."

Pakistan have already toured South Africa once this year and their players could gain further experience of the conditions by turning out for the franchises. Sohail Tanvir has been a successful recruit for the Lions over the past two seasons and his international team-mates may now follow in his footsteps.

Pakistan has not hosted a series since terrorist attacks on a Sri Lanka team bus in 2009, limiting the team's game time, although they have been successful playing in the Emirates. Pakistan players have also been excluded from the IPL in that period, after the 2008 Mumbai terror attacks, but Sethi expressed a hope that this situation may be reversed.

"Our players will also play in South African domestic cricket and that will give them more cricket," he said. "I have talked to Lorgat, he has promised me to encourage our players to play in their local leagues. My concern is that our players should play in India in the IPL and in county cricket, we want to do that. If they let our players in the local leagues then it will give them good outing and good education."

The visit of Pakistan was hastily arranged after India cut their South Africa tour to two Tests and three ODIs. Such was CSA's desire to arrange the fixtures, it is prepared to make a financial loss. Lorgat has been a supporter of cricket in Pakistan, travelling there as a consultant to the proposed Pakistan Super League after finishing his tenure as ICC chief executive last year. He denied, however, that a tightening of relations between the two countries would stoke the ire of the BCCI.

"We are excited and happy with that great engagement with Pakistan and it's pretty obvious that it fills a gap that has risen out of a curtailed tour," Lorgat said. Asked whether the Indian board would be unhappy with the arrangement, he replied: "I don't see why it should, Pakistan was available and it's a bilateral arrangement between the two and we are simply delighted that we can get Pakistan to South Africa."

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  • on November 12, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    good decision and looking forward to it... playing with players like Dale Steyn Morkel Philander Kallis G Smith H Amla and super talented AB Devilliers is great opportunity for our players.... Thanks SA and good decision PCB

  • Taha_Farrukh on November 11, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    we will totally support SA in every phase of Cricket, as a Pakistani i would love to see Pakistan in Southafrica and Southafrica play in Pakistan....very soon

  • on November 11, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    it is need of the time to develope such a strong block....pakistan hs to support africa it will also help paksiat n

  • hussain.r97 on November 11, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    Will Pakistani players be allowed to only play T20 Cricket in South African Leagues or will this mean Pakistani players will play First Class and List A Cricket in South Africa? If this is the case, this will be a huge boost to Pakistan Cricket, especially for the Batsmen, who will be able to play and experience in more testing conditions...

  • asiacricket1234 on November 11, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    Aah... It seems the common enemy brought these two teams together lol. This is a great decision from Pakistan's point of view. Their team is deteriorating. Playing in SA will help them to get back their touch again but not sure how this going to help SA.

  • British_North_America on November 10, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    Tie with Pakistan after collision with India? Sounds interesting

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 10, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    We welcome PAK players to our league. Fundamentally talented players just lack the opportunity to bat on more testing tracks to improve their techniques.

    Also PAK bowlers (fast bowlers) will relish the opportunity to bowl on our tracks and get real rewards.

  • likeintcricket on November 10, 2013, 13:19 GMT

    Dravid used a term"Technically Deficient" for some West Indian lower order players. I think that is the right word for some of the upper order Pakistani players. Over the years the quality Pakistani domestic structure has deteriorated so much that they cannot expect 11 quality players to come out of it specially the batsman. They need to identify 20-25 talented youngsters and send them to countries like SA, Australia and England to play at least 2-3 years of competitive cricket before drafting them in the main team. They have to follow SriLankans example of selecting few youngster and working on them.

  • Chaudry_Cricket on November 9, 2013, 23:40 GMT

    This is a good step by the PCB. We should send our u-19 teams and a-teams their regularly. The likes of Maqsood, Shehzad, Akmal etc should be sent to play domestic cricket there to gain exposure and experience.

  • t20cric on November 9, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    This is a great step forward for Pakistan. What Pakistan should do is make players who have performed consistently well in Pakistani domestic circuit play in the SA domestic teams to adapt in those conditions. If a player shows consistency there for a good portion of a year then they should be moved in to the A-team to do tours for a few months and then be go into the international stage. This way Pakistan will have new players on their team who have already played in SA(where Pak players fail badly) which would mean that the batsmen will have good technique and bowlers will be good as well. Players who are in the international team but out of form can play in SA domestic tournaments to get back in form(if they fail then send back to Pak domestic tournament) and then return to the team. Pakistan can also possibly hold their PSL tournament SA or UAE(preferably SA) so that their players get international exposure. Pakistan should also try to get SA to tour Pak so that int. cric returns.

  • on November 12, 2013, 18:13 GMT

    good decision and looking forward to it... playing with players like Dale Steyn Morkel Philander Kallis G Smith H Amla and super talented AB Devilliers is great opportunity for our players.... Thanks SA and good decision PCB

  • Taha_Farrukh on November 11, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    we will totally support SA in every phase of Cricket, as a Pakistani i would love to see Pakistan in Southafrica and Southafrica play in Pakistan....very soon

  • on November 11, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    it is need of the time to develope such a strong block....pakistan hs to support africa it will also help paksiat n

  • hussain.r97 on November 11, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    Will Pakistani players be allowed to only play T20 Cricket in South African Leagues or will this mean Pakistani players will play First Class and List A Cricket in South Africa? If this is the case, this will be a huge boost to Pakistan Cricket, especially for the Batsmen, who will be able to play and experience in more testing conditions...

  • asiacricket1234 on November 11, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    Aah... It seems the common enemy brought these two teams together lol. This is a great decision from Pakistan's point of view. Their team is deteriorating. Playing in SA will help them to get back their touch again but not sure how this going to help SA.

  • British_North_America on November 10, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    Tie with Pakistan after collision with India? Sounds interesting

  • TommytuckerSaffa on November 10, 2013, 16:00 GMT

    We welcome PAK players to our league. Fundamentally talented players just lack the opportunity to bat on more testing tracks to improve their techniques.

    Also PAK bowlers (fast bowlers) will relish the opportunity to bowl on our tracks and get real rewards.

  • likeintcricket on November 10, 2013, 13:19 GMT

    Dravid used a term"Technically Deficient" for some West Indian lower order players. I think that is the right word for some of the upper order Pakistani players. Over the years the quality Pakistani domestic structure has deteriorated so much that they cannot expect 11 quality players to come out of it specially the batsman. They need to identify 20-25 talented youngsters and send them to countries like SA, Australia and England to play at least 2-3 years of competitive cricket before drafting them in the main team. They have to follow SriLankans example of selecting few youngster and working on them.

  • Chaudry_Cricket on November 9, 2013, 23:40 GMT

    This is a good step by the PCB. We should send our u-19 teams and a-teams their regularly. The likes of Maqsood, Shehzad, Akmal etc should be sent to play domestic cricket there to gain exposure and experience.

  • t20cric on November 9, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    This is a great step forward for Pakistan. What Pakistan should do is make players who have performed consistently well in Pakistani domestic circuit play in the SA domestic teams to adapt in those conditions. If a player shows consistency there for a good portion of a year then they should be moved in to the A-team to do tours for a few months and then be go into the international stage. This way Pakistan will have new players on their team who have already played in SA(where Pak players fail badly) which would mean that the batsmen will have good technique and bowlers will be good as well. Players who are in the international team but out of form can play in SA domestic tournaments to get back in form(if they fail then send back to Pak domestic tournament) and then return to the team. Pakistan can also possibly hold their PSL tournament SA or UAE(preferably SA) so that their players get international exposure. Pakistan should also try to get SA to tour Pak so that int. cric returns.

  • on November 9, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    pcb official's need they invite sa players to home seris tour play in pakistan

  • on November 9, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    @Clifford Bradford, totally agree with you that we should not have to beg for IPL but have to concentrate on our own or join hands with other countries like us.

  • on November 9, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    @abhimanyu Unfortunately you're only capable of viewing things in monetary basis. This is a good opportunity for younger players in Pakistan to develop their skills in fast n swinging wickets. Also a good opportunity for smaller and local clubs in SA to increase their brand value at a bargain. All in all, it's refreshing to see some action being taken in cricket that isn't solely based on monetary gains.

  • on November 9, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    Good. Nothing better than this to train Pakistani batsmen as to how to think and act.

  • on November 9, 2013, 7:05 GMT

    these fresh pakistani batsmen can't play atm. they need a break. they need to regroup and play small t20 and odi series in the beginning of 2014 before the t20 world cup or else we will lose every game in that as well and knowing hafeez, he won't play abdul razzaq so experience will be on a low

  • on November 9, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    Good decision .... really appreciate CSA and PCB significant step.

  • on November 9, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    I think pak,Ind and sa will have trial nation series in sa

  • on November 9, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    Although this seems to be great news for the cricketing faternity of both countries, unfortunately this will have zero positive effect for both countries. I am not saying it would hamper anything, but the net gain would be minimal, looking from a monetary point of view. Also Haroon Lorgat seems to be the only problem BCCI has with CSA. And how much we talk about "strained ties" between BCCI and CSA, its seems to be only temporary, as Mr. Lorgat wont be around forever.

    Its sad, because for all the good BCCI has done for Indian cricket( and yes they have done a lot to be honest), this current administration has allowed personal problems to get in the way of good cricket. But in the long run things will be back to normal for India and SAF.

  • on November 9, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    Maybe Pakistan can start using S. Africa as their third "home" ..

  • on November 9, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    I wish the West Indies would take this idea on. It would be great for the fans and WI crickets to get to see and play against great players from PAK, NZ, Bangladesh etc. It's time for the "lesser countries" to stop begging for the IPL/County cricket berths and set up their own top class first class and List A cricket leagues.

  • on November 9, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    this act of pcb very good pakiitan domesti system is not good pcb give pak players oppertunity

  • CricketChat on November 9, 2013, 2:15 GMT

    This is a very good step. As cricket is becoming increasingly global, we should see overseas players participating in domestic tournaments all over. This can only increase standard for all countries.

  • on November 9, 2013, 1:21 GMT

    Please give chance to young cricketers like Zain Abbas, Haris Sohail, Sharjeel Khan, Maszoor Amjad, Sadaf Hussain and Babar Azam - they are promising and kick out mediocre players from the team.

  • chechong0114 on November 8, 2013, 23:32 GMT

    This is HUGE!! The sport of cricket needs stuff like this, I wish only prosperity and greatness to these 2 boards for the initiative they have taken, Pakistan cricket definitely needs something of this magnitude, I cannot stress enough how big this is GOD bless them both.

  • Smiling on November 8, 2013, 22:49 GMT

    Positive step however, the national players are exhausted and squeezing in another tour to SA this year is unfair to them. No other country has to deal with playing every game, every tour outside of their home and must be horrendous on their families. It's about time the young players were given chances...send A teams and at least give the national players time to rest. Remember, it's not just the days they play but days to travel, lead up games etc...a tour is way longer than what we watch on tv!

  • on November 8, 2013, 21:58 GMT

    This is music to my years. Given the restrictions of no home series, this proposal will be a significant step for our talented young cricketers' to get International experience they so badly deserve. It speaks volumes when Pakistan has to look to another Continent for improving the talent of their budding stars, whilst our neighbor shows apathy and no desire to assist in Pakistan's plight. Next, perhaps a South African tour of Pakistan, who knows. But, this is how relationships are built. South Africa/Pakistan please makes this a reality. It is good for world cricket. Having recently watched the series between the two countries, I was most pleased with the South African commentators, especially Keppler Wessels who not only recognized the Pakistani talent, but also praised it accordingly.

  • ProdigyA on November 8, 2013, 21:55 GMT

    How about coming to Pak for a bilateral series since Pak is helping SA in time of crisis.

  • on November 8, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    i dont agred with 1 of comments that its the case of CSA helping pak. its more of a monetry issue. pak will also gain some money. sa will recover some loss.

    instead of more players in t20 leagues, what pakistan should do is to send A team or u19 team there in next few months or next cricket season in SA. and that will help in selection of wc2015

  • on November 8, 2013, 20:17 GMT

    This is good. It will be to the benefit of Pakistan and world cricket for young players to play in South Africa. Hopefully for a better team than Griqualand West though. I hope South Africans will also get the opportunity to play in Pakistan :)

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    a very noble step from both boards. Pakistan stand to lose nothing and can only gain money, competitive cricket and crowd pleasure. People say its overkill but i highly doubt there are any better players to play against than ABD, Amla, Styen and Morkal. PCB should try to focus on CSA, Kiwis and Sri Lankan boards as they can be the the best friends in long run.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:35 GMT

    South africa played really well in UAE and won series but i dont think it was possible without steyn's presence so he really is a fortune for SA cricket. Pakistan playing SA is really helping the team to improve insha allah and i am grateful for that to Both Team's Cricket Organistations. Can pakistan undo the loss at UAE in south africa series it will be about re-think for pakistan team coach, one factor will be important in that Mohammad Hafeez will he play or drop from series, so interesting decisions and situations to follow likely :D I will be in for watching it surely.

  • Zahidsaltin on November 8, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    Sethi should think about arranging some A-team tours to SA, Aus and Eng.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    Finally someone has taken the side of PCB, hope its a good omen and it will continue in the future as our players are really struggling to find their feet in International Cricket.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    Finally someone has taken the side of PCB, hope its a good omen and it will continue in the future as our players are really struggling to find their feet in International Cricket.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    Very excited to see that CSA helping Pakistan cricket and ultimately helping cricket improve.. it is the high time Pakistan players concentrate on this and grab the opportunity.... thanks CSA for being so kind..

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  • on November 8, 2013, 19:10 GMT

    Very excited to see that CSA helping Pakistan cricket and ultimately helping cricket improve.. it is the high time Pakistan players concentrate on this and grab the opportunity.... thanks CSA for being so kind..

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    Finally someone has taken the side of PCB, hope its a good omen and it will continue in the future as our players are really struggling to find their feet in International Cricket.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    Finally someone has taken the side of PCB, hope its a good omen and it will continue in the future as our players are really struggling to find their feet in International Cricket.

  • Zahidsaltin on November 8, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    Sethi should think about arranging some A-team tours to SA, Aus and Eng.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:35 GMT

    South africa played really well in UAE and won series but i dont think it was possible without steyn's presence so he really is a fortune for SA cricket. Pakistan playing SA is really helping the team to improve insha allah and i am grateful for that to Both Team's Cricket Organistations. Can pakistan undo the loss at UAE in south africa series it will be about re-think for pakistan team coach, one factor will be important in that Mohammad Hafeez will he play or drop from series, so interesting decisions and situations to follow likely :D I will be in for watching it surely.

  • on November 8, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    a very noble step from both boards. Pakistan stand to lose nothing and can only gain money, competitive cricket and crowd pleasure. People say its overkill but i highly doubt there are any better players to play against than ABD, Amla, Styen and Morkal. PCB should try to focus on CSA, Kiwis and Sri Lankan boards as they can be the the best friends in long run.

  • on November 8, 2013, 20:17 GMT

    This is good. It will be to the benefit of Pakistan and world cricket for young players to play in South Africa. Hopefully for a better team than Griqualand West though. I hope South Africans will also get the opportunity to play in Pakistan :)

  • on November 8, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    i dont agred with 1 of comments that its the case of CSA helping pak. its more of a monetry issue. pak will also gain some money. sa will recover some loss.

    instead of more players in t20 leagues, what pakistan should do is to send A team or u19 team there in next few months or next cricket season in SA. and that will help in selection of wc2015

  • ProdigyA on November 8, 2013, 21:55 GMT

    How about coming to Pak for a bilateral series since Pak is helping SA in time of crisis.

  • on November 8, 2013, 21:58 GMT

    This is music to my years. Given the restrictions of no home series, this proposal will be a significant step for our talented young cricketers' to get International experience they so badly deserve. It speaks volumes when Pakistan has to look to another Continent for improving the talent of their budding stars, whilst our neighbor shows apathy and no desire to assist in Pakistan's plight. Next, perhaps a South African tour of Pakistan, who knows. But, this is how relationships are built. South Africa/Pakistan please makes this a reality. It is good for world cricket. Having recently watched the series between the two countries, I was most pleased with the South African commentators, especially Keppler Wessels who not only recognized the Pakistani talent, but also praised it accordingly.