Pakistan in South Africa 2012-13 October 23, 2012

South Africa reject Pakistan's request for schedule change

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Cricket South Africa (CSA) has turned down the Pakistan Cricket Board's (PCB) request to alter the dates of Pakistan's tour to South Africa starting February 2013 citing busy international schedule as the reason. The PCB had requested the change to expand the current 12-day window for its proposed Twenty20 league that follows the South Africa tour in March.

"We wanted to expand our window (for the T20 league), but they (CSA) didn't agree so we decided to continue as per the Future Tours Programme," Zaka Ashraf, the PCB chairman, told ESPNcricinfo. "CSA told the PCB that they had already announced and sold tickets and it was not possible to make any change."

Pakistan are set to launch their T20 premier league in March and were hoping to have a bigger window while avoiding a clash with the 2013 season of IPL that starts from April 3. They are scheduled to play three Tests, five ODIs and two T20s between February 1 and March 24, 2013 and wanted the dates to be advanced. However, South Africa will be busy hosting New Zealand in December and January.

"They (PCB) asked us to move the tour earlier but it was just not possible because of our schedule," Jacques Faul, the acting CSA chief executive, told ESPNcricinfo. "We always try to accommodate other countries but we can't always manage. The program is very busy these days. We also play our domestic competitions while tours are ongoing."

Meanwhile, the PCB is expediting the staging of the inaugural T20 premier league. One of the purposes of the league is to take steps towards the revival of international cricket in Pakistan by inviting overseas players to participate. The confidence has increased after the success of the matches played between International XI and Pakistan All Star XI in Karachi recently that saw international players for the first time in Pakistan since the attack on the Sri Lankan team bus in March 2009.

Umar Farooq is ESPNcricinfo's Pakistan correspondent and Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Crick_Expert on October 25, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    Matches b/w PAK & SA will be great event for cricket lovers. SA is great & #1 team in Cricket ranking. PCB should open eyes and send a solid team who can plays well on SA grounds. Please don't include junk players like; Shoail Tanvir, Yasir Arafat, Mohd. Sami, Shoaib Malik, Umar Gul anymore in the team. The team should be as; Imran Nazir, M. Hafeez, Shahzeb Hasan, Ahmed Shahzad, Azhar Ali, Nasir Jamshed, K. Akmal, S. Ajmal, Raza Hasan, Shahid Afridi, A. Razzak, Tabish Khan, Mir Humza, Anwar Ali, U. Akmal

  • sumit176 on October 25, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    @wickyroy....dont worry.....we have enough young talents to beat your side anyday

  • WickyRoy.paklover on October 24, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    @g.narisma,@sumit420,wel i hav never undrstood why indian fans always gloat ovr their board's monetry strength?would u plz explain has it anything to do with team's perfrmance or its sucess?frankly speaking bcci havn't done worthmentioning to unveil the young talent,they hav at best introduced "ipl","cl" which have provd countrproductive to indian crickt's health.

  • arifzakaria811gmail.com on October 24, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Duplicates or Imitations do not hold any value or the aura of original. Hyundai might come up with new models and new features but Toyota came first and established a name and reputation with cannot be dented now even if Hyundai made similar quality or even better quality cars. The reason ..Toyota was mater, pioneer and original and the first to make super quality cars. In a similar manner IPL came first, was innovator and is original private T20 league. All BPLs, SLPLS. PPLS. and XYXpLs will always be compared with IPL as baseline and that standard is huge to match because of immense sponsorship's available.If BCCI had asked CSA to accommodate would they have refused?????

  • g.narsimha on October 24, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    WICKY ROY PAK LOVER - in DREAMS HAD IT BEEN INDS BCCI every body knows the the out come , be happy u only can think in this way , every bady have the right to think as he likes but what others thinks on is only metters.

  • sumit176 on October 24, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    @wickyroy,,,ohh yes,,,,pcb is the richest cricketing board,,,i got it....lolz

  • warneneverchuck on October 24, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    @ Raheel Akhtar. I can smell fire some wher. By the way this substandard league most of the player if not all want to play. Talking abt league in emirates I bet no Indian will ever come as they earn far more than all other players. dude see wht happen to BD and SL league same thing will happen to PPL.

  • WickyRoy.paklover on October 24, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    @g.narisma,well somwhere at higher level than india.lolz

  • on October 24, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    Bring it on PCB! Eagerly waiting to see local heroes competing against international heroes.

  • KP_84 on October 24, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    The SLPL works because of the involvement of Indian companies and access Indian consumers. It's hard to see how Pakistan can make this league work since it will have neither of these things. The fact that Pakistan is cricket's second most populous nation is irrelevent. How can Pakistan's modest consumer market support a big T20 league all on it's own? Meanwhile, after just one season, the BPL is in serious trouble. The franchises still owe payments to a lot of the players, and changes are being made ahead of the league's second season. Would anyone be surprised if the new Pakistani league turns out like the BPL? Can't argue with CSA's decision. Why move mountains to accomodate for a league that probably won't work?

  • Crick_Expert on October 25, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    Matches b/w PAK & SA will be great event for cricket lovers. SA is great & #1 team in Cricket ranking. PCB should open eyes and send a solid team who can plays well on SA grounds. Please don't include junk players like; Shoail Tanvir, Yasir Arafat, Mohd. Sami, Shoaib Malik, Umar Gul anymore in the team. The team should be as; Imran Nazir, M. Hafeez, Shahzeb Hasan, Ahmed Shahzad, Azhar Ali, Nasir Jamshed, K. Akmal, S. Ajmal, Raza Hasan, Shahid Afridi, A. Razzak, Tabish Khan, Mir Humza, Anwar Ali, U. Akmal

  • sumit176 on October 25, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    @wickyroy....dont worry.....we have enough young talents to beat your side anyday

  • WickyRoy.paklover on October 24, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    @g.narisma,@sumit420,wel i hav never undrstood why indian fans always gloat ovr their board's monetry strength?would u plz explain has it anything to do with team's perfrmance or its sucess?frankly speaking bcci havn't done worthmentioning to unveil the young talent,they hav at best introduced "ipl","cl" which have provd countrproductive to indian crickt's health.

  • arifzakaria811gmail.com on October 24, 2012, 13:15 GMT

    Duplicates or Imitations do not hold any value or the aura of original. Hyundai might come up with new models and new features but Toyota came first and established a name and reputation with cannot be dented now even if Hyundai made similar quality or even better quality cars. The reason ..Toyota was mater, pioneer and original and the first to make super quality cars. In a similar manner IPL came first, was innovator and is original private T20 league. All BPLs, SLPLS. PPLS. and XYXpLs will always be compared with IPL as baseline and that standard is huge to match because of immense sponsorship's available.If BCCI had asked CSA to accommodate would they have refused?????

  • g.narsimha on October 24, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    WICKY ROY PAK LOVER - in DREAMS HAD IT BEEN INDS BCCI every body knows the the out come , be happy u only can think in this way , every bady have the right to think as he likes but what others thinks on is only metters.

  • sumit176 on October 24, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    @wickyroy,,,ohh yes,,,,pcb is the richest cricketing board,,,i got it....lolz

  • warneneverchuck on October 24, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    @ Raheel Akhtar. I can smell fire some wher. By the way this substandard league most of the player if not all want to play. Talking abt league in emirates I bet no Indian will ever come as they earn far more than all other players. dude see wht happen to BD and SL league same thing will happen to PPL.

  • WickyRoy.paklover on October 24, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    @g.narisma,well somwhere at higher level than india.lolz

  • on October 24, 2012, 4:18 GMT

    Bring it on PCB! Eagerly waiting to see local heroes competing against international heroes.

  • KP_84 on October 24, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    The SLPL works because of the involvement of Indian companies and access Indian consumers. It's hard to see how Pakistan can make this league work since it will have neither of these things. The fact that Pakistan is cricket's second most populous nation is irrelevent. How can Pakistan's modest consumer market support a big T20 league all on it's own? Meanwhile, after just one season, the BPL is in serious trouble. The franchises still owe payments to a lot of the players, and changes are being made ahead of the league's second season. Would anyone be surprised if the new Pakistani league turns out like the BPL? Can't argue with CSA's decision. Why move mountains to accomodate for a league that probably won't work?

  • g.narsimha on October 24, 2012, 3:31 GMT

    WOW- SA REJECTED............ now people should uderstand where u stand

  • asim229 on October 24, 2012, 2:54 GMT

    Why dont pcb try to organize something now because pak dont have any international match till end of december.

  • mughal29173 on October 24, 2012, 2:36 GMT

    I am sure talent has its own say. Pak players inspite of all controversies are very good to be attracting crowds. Of course we should not have cheergirls the way Indians started in IPL and rest followed. We should not do everything for the sake of attracting sponsorship.

  • Saadcricketlover on October 24, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    What, Pakistan premier league.There are a few things i want to point out. We should have a different name because there are so many leagues with the same name at the end bpl, slpl ipl and now there is also going to be west indian league. I don't think pcb should start ppl. What Pcb should do is start an asian league with three teams from each country, india, srilanka,bangladesh and pakistan. Because there are so many leagues once an year it could be held in each of the country. And they should stop these other ipl, bpl , slpl bla bla bla.

  • on October 23, 2012, 21:13 GMT

    i think its nt issue that CSA is saying u need to tour SA 1st due to any reason .but the think that worries me that how it is going to b organised .wether v ll get players from AUS,SA,SRILANKA,W INDES etc if it is nt possible here in PAKISTAN v need itt to organise it in UAE.if it get clicked in uAE then v can bring it back here in PAkIStAN .i dnt know what to do but it should b a successful event .kits,growed and ground really matters that really attract the fans coz most of the ppl al our the world is watching on tv.

  • K.A.K on October 23, 2012, 20:33 GMT

    12 days is more than enough for a T20 league. Longer than that, it will become boring and repititive.

  • on October 23, 2012, 17:09 GMT

    Pakistan should host this T20 League in Dubai and get a sponsorship from Emirates and then you will see Dhoni and co running towards this league leaving substandard cheap IPL So called Cricket Tournament

  • on October 23, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    hehe why its a bitter pill to swallow for some people. its good for cricket.

  • Rahul17_1983 on October 23, 2012, 16:10 GMT

    Is it a reality that Pakistan will hold its own T20 league.I wonder who all international cricketers will opt to play.Probably sanath and co.

  • wrenx on October 23, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    @TexanBlue agree with you in principle, as a Pak fan who wants them to stick to the FTP where too many other countries ignore it. Although, Pakistan have had full tours with Zimbabwe entirely outside of the FTP to make up for the fact that other sides do not honour their commitments, so in this case it is unfair to criticise them. Agree that CSA were right not to accept, even if they hadn't sold tickets as that isn't the point: no T20 league should take precedence over an international tour

  • on October 23, 2012, 15:22 GMT

    @mensan, Forget about SLPL and BPL.... Pakistan is a way too big cricket economy than both mentioned. We might not generate IPL type revenue but after IPL, we should pay the players most. when Karachi can fill 35 k National std to see Ricardo Powel and others, Lahore and Karachi can also fill to see some more competitive matches. I hope you saw our local T20 tournament every year that how we fill all the venues... we might not see Gayle and Dhoni bla bla but even 2nd line Aussies or English players will attract us right now so PCB, bring this on.... I will purchase the Lahore edition tickets with all my friends....

  • warneneverchuck on October 23, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    I think Pak didnt learn from SLPL BPL bcoz it will be biggest failure. Domt know how many players will come to play in PAK

  • drmazhar on October 23, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    this would have been done with ease if INDIA had requested for adjustment in FTP

  • on October 23, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    waoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • kaztheman on October 23, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    Tour should be first and then T20 etc etc. Good call from CSA PAK Fan

  • on October 23, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    Not good from SA!!!! abid

  • TexanBlue on October 23, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Well done CSA for rejecting PCB's request and sticking to the original schedule. With so many countries ignoring the FTP to accomodate their own T20 league is simply a slap on ICC's face. Pak had already postponed their tour of Zimbabwe to tour India instead which is pathetic. While reviving ties with India is important but it should not have come at the cost of postponing a tour that includes Tests as well. Pak will surely be utter rusty and risk losing 3-0 to RSA in test matches since they will be playing 5-day games after 6 to 7 months while RSA will be fine tuned after playing Aussies away and then NZ at home. Pak would be better off playing 2 tests even against a weaker team like Zimbabwe before arriving in South Africa but this is how 1-day and T20 are taking precedent over tests these days and ICC must address this issue to protect the integrity of test matches. ICC must also take steps to ensure are countries get even opportunities at test matches.

  • on October 23, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Pakistan should make this League Short and only in three main cities, so they got more money to spend on Buying-Players, Facilities and Broadcasting. Good Luck

  • Syed_imran_abbas on October 23, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    Its not easy getting windows in international calender. Both things are very important. I hope PCB can plan and execute well. Looking forward to pakistan tour of SA. Especially test series. I hope pakistan can settle their fast bowling attack before that. Its gona be cracking series. Both teams have very good test sides.

  • wrenx on October 23, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Good for CSA in sticking to the FTP - too many countries utterly fail to honour this, and it should always take precedence over another piddly T20 league. Reviving cricket in Pakistan this way would obviously be a good thing, but as a matter of principle, there ought not to be an exception made that places domestic or franchise based T20 cricket over international matches, especially tests.

  • mensan on October 23, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    With BPL and SLPL suffering financially, I think PPL will fail badly.

  • on October 23, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    that bad thing that SCB did

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  • on October 23, 2012, 10:45 GMT

    that bad thing that SCB did

  • mensan on October 23, 2012, 12:01 GMT

    With BPL and SLPL suffering financially, I think PPL will fail badly.

  • wrenx on October 23, 2012, 12:07 GMT

    Good for CSA in sticking to the FTP - too many countries utterly fail to honour this, and it should always take precedence over another piddly T20 league. Reviving cricket in Pakistan this way would obviously be a good thing, but as a matter of principle, there ought not to be an exception made that places domestic or franchise based T20 cricket over international matches, especially tests.

  • Syed_imran_abbas on October 23, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    Its not easy getting windows in international calender. Both things are very important. I hope PCB can plan and execute well. Looking forward to pakistan tour of SA. Especially test series. I hope pakistan can settle their fast bowling attack before that. Its gona be cracking series. Both teams have very good test sides.

  • on October 23, 2012, 12:36 GMT

    Pakistan should make this League Short and only in three main cities, so they got more money to spend on Buying-Players, Facilities and Broadcasting. Good Luck

  • TexanBlue on October 23, 2012, 13:36 GMT

    Well done CSA for rejecting PCB's request and sticking to the original schedule. With so many countries ignoring the FTP to accomodate their own T20 league is simply a slap on ICC's face. Pak had already postponed their tour of Zimbabwe to tour India instead which is pathetic. While reviving ties with India is important but it should not have come at the cost of postponing a tour that includes Tests as well. Pak will surely be utter rusty and risk losing 3-0 to RSA in test matches since they will be playing 5-day games after 6 to 7 months while RSA will be fine tuned after playing Aussies away and then NZ at home. Pak would be better off playing 2 tests even against a weaker team like Zimbabwe before arriving in South Africa but this is how 1-day and T20 are taking precedent over tests these days and ICC must address this issue to protect the integrity of test matches. ICC must also take steps to ensure are countries get even opportunities at test matches.

  • on October 23, 2012, 13:39 GMT

    Not good from SA!!!! abid

  • kaztheman on October 23, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    Tour should be first and then T20 etc etc. Good call from CSA PAK Fan

  • on October 23, 2012, 14:07 GMT

    waoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

  • drmazhar on October 23, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    this would have been done with ease if INDIA had requested for adjustment in FTP