Rudi Koertzen August 29, 2010

'McGrath always moaned and whinged' - Koertzen

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Rudi Koertzen, the former South African Elite Panel umpire who recently retired from international matches, has said the Australian players were quite a handful to officiate, singling out former fast bowler Glenn McGrath.

In an interview earlier this month, Koertzen said Shane Warne was the hardest bowler to umpire purely because of the pressure he used to exert. However, he wasn't always pleased with McGrath's conduct on the field. McGrath, who ended his successful Test career as Australia's second-highest wicket-taker with 563 wickets, had a few run-ins with match referees and umpires.

"He wasn't one of the happiest guys. He always moaned and whinged," Koertzen told cricket365.com. "If he wasn't getting wickets and the batsmen were hitting him for a few fours, he got a bit personal and upset. I thought I was very fortunate to get on with probably 99% of the players in world cricket.

"There was always the odd individual who had to be babied all the time. You had to be like a policeman to them. A fielder like Matthew Hayden or Andrew Symonds, you always had to be alert when they were on the field because something was going to happen. If you didn't pick it up as soon as possible things were going to get out of hand."

Koertzen also sounded out a warning for players to not let their emotions get the better of them. He referred to the incident where the England fast bowler Stuart Broad flung the ball back to Pakistan's Zulqarnain Haider, striking his shoulder. Broad apologised for his spontaneous act and was fined 50% of his match fee. Koertzen felt that Broad, who's not shy of showing his aggression on the field, was deserving of that punishment, or else it would have led to a bad precedent.

"It's so unnecessary for a bowler to pick up the ball and throw it at the batsman. It's just not part of the game," Koertzen said. "He is a good lad, honestly he is. But sometimes he gets a bit too emotional. When it happened I thought: 'Here we go'.

"It had been breeding for a while and the first thing I was waiting for was to see whether he was reported or not. He was reported and that was a good thing. If he gets away with it on one day, then the next day he is going to take advantage of players and umpires again."

Koertzen is a strong backer of the Umpire Decision Review System and wants it to be implemented across all series. The system has been used haphazardly as cricket boards like the BCCI have shown little or no interest in implementing it.

"The guys are, probably, 75% happy with the system. The problem is, why should you have England against Australia or England against South Africa with the system, but India versus Sri Lanka without it?"

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  • BillyCC on September 4, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    Vikram Narayanan, don't know what planet you are from or whether you just made a typo but to suggest that South Africa were a better team than Australia between 1990 to 2010 is absolutely ridiculous. Regardless of Australia's behaviour, they were the clear world champions in this period having lost the least number of series, won the most number of test matches and series, won three World Cups, had the most successful bowlers, the most successful batsmen, and held the number one ranking for a good 12 years. And really, they didn't win in 2008, it was 3-all after six Tests (three in Australia and three in South Africa).

  • on September 1, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    I am not an aussie fan & I don't like their behaviour just as Rudi.

    But w/o them cricket would be ruled by SA with no nearest rival both mental and cricket talent wise.

    So I would say AUS with the likes of Warne/McGrath,S.Waugh at the end of the day after all these yrs post retirement have contributed, w/o them cricket would be very predictable w/o tussles.

    Look at AUS-SA 1999 Semis and all the test battles to have taken place between them. SA were THE BETTER TEAM than Aus 1990-2010(had big batting depth,2 qlty fast bowlers and what not) on paper yet they underperformed. Glad they won in Aus 2008. This was as Kallis said close to winning a WC, if not better.

  • BillyCC on August 30, 2010, 23:07 GMT

    redneck, the point you make about the Windies fast bowlers is excellent. There is a romanticism about the Calypso style, and the legend has grown. Most of it was deserved, but I'm sure there were incidents of poor umpiring back in those days followed by complaints from the Windies, and also examples of bad sportsmanship as well. Of course, the passing of time meant that a lot of the negative stuff was forgotten and only the legend remains. In the case of Australia, a lot of people still remember the bad stuff, but let's face it, in 40 years time, people will read only of McGrath's greatness. Only true cricket historians will bother with articles like this.

  • infiniti_i35guy on August 30, 2010, 10:31 GMT

    What harbhajan said to symonds was "teri maa ki" which does sound more like a monkey. But I personally dont understand whats all the fuss about calling someone monkey and how is that racist, and can end up your careers. I am sure players on the field have used worst words on another player.

  • rollyko on August 30, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    Rudi was well past his use-by date when he finished. He made lots of errors. I am starting to wonder from his comments whether he took the field with an open mind or whether he decided if he was going to give a decision according to whether he liked the bowler.

  • satotheend on August 30, 2010, 9:40 GMT

    Ha ha ha ha!! Saw the article heading and thought... This is something the one-eyed Asian fan will just LOVE to read. I am South African and I am proud of Rudi Koertzen and his views. But Glenn Mcgrath was ABSOLUTELY brilliant. Definitely the best ever "line and lengther". And I think many people forget that he could make the older ball "talk" too. I love the bad-ass persona on the field and Mcgrath and Warne brought that typical Aussie attitude to the park but were great guys off it. They played hard and as a South African (although we got hammered by them more often than not) I really enjoyed the way they played. And to the whining and crying Indian fans... Sorry guys.. Kail Dev is abt your biggest legend... As a bowler he doesn't even come close to McGrath... So stop whining please....Good luck Rudi!!

  • Mitcher on August 30, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    I'd rather support an arrogant, succesful side that one from a corupt, match-fixing (sub) continent.

  • Rooboy on August 30, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    @TipTop32, please tell me you're joking. How can you make the statement 'Racism has been officially approved by ICC for white players ' when the most blatant piece of on field racism was perpetrated by an indian, who basically got away scot free? It also virtually ended Symonds career because he was not the same after the Australian cricket board hung him out to dry rather than stand up to BCCI bullying. @Blythesville, your comment is just wrong and is obviously based on your own prejudices because it cannot be supported by fact. Yep, Aussies complained when they were racially vilified, because racism should not be tolerated. But as for just playing hard, they can take as much as they give without complaint because they grow up with it. Did Aus complain about the kiwis taunting Clarke about his relationship break up? How about the whole SA team ganging up to try to harass and intimidate P.Hughes on his debut? Rather than complain, I believe Hughes publicly said 'bring it on'.

  • Something_Witty on August 30, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    Why does everyone assume that arrogance and pride are bad things? Successful teams need to be arrogant to be so successful. Australians are arrogant because we're used to winning, and we don't like to experience anything but winning. I see nothing wrong with that. At least we're honest about it, to me, being graceful and humble in victory just seems two faced and fake.

  • perl57 on August 30, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    No wonder McGrath name was out. He may be one of the greatest bolwers cricket has seen but the fact that he used to whing about every boundary hit by a batsmen still remains. Face it Ozs you just can't play cricket. You need some agression to unsettle batsmen. Worst thing is almost all countries are following this procedure.See what rudy also has to say abt matty and Symonds. They are the trouble makers. Ranjan Madugalle, Chris Broad, Mike Dennis are few of the refrees who always sided with Oz. These people should be done and dusted with. Because they have encouraged this kind of behavior from Oz. Whatever happens on the field stays on field, and they use many offensive instigating language. Whats the point of winning dirty? Then why do Ozs whing abt bodyline? Thats also fair. At least Eng used game.

  • BillyCC on September 4, 2010, 14:53 GMT

    Vikram Narayanan, don't know what planet you are from or whether you just made a typo but to suggest that South Africa were a better team than Australia between 1990 to 2010 is absolutely ridiculous. Regardless of Australia's behaviour, they were the clear world champions in this period having lost the least number of series, won the most number of test matches and series, won three World Cups, had the most successful bowlers, the most successful batsmen, and held the number one ranking for a good 12 years. And really, they didn't win in 2008, it was 3-all after six Tests (three in Australia and three in South Africa).

  • on September 1, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    I am not an aussie fan & I don't like their behaviour just as Rudi.

    But w/o them cricket would be ruled by SA with no nearest rival both mental and cricket talent wise.

    So I would say AUS with the likes of Warne/McGrath,S.Waugh at the end of the day after all these yrs post retirement have contributed, w/o them cricket would be very predictable w/o tussles.

    Look at AUS-SA 1999 Semis and all the test battles to have taken place between them. SA were THE BETTER TEAM than Aus 1990-2010(had big batting depth,2 qlty fast bowlers and what not) on paper yet they underperformed. Glad they won in Aus 2008. This was as Kallis said close to winning a WC, if not better.

  • BillyCC on August 30, 2010, 23:07 GMT

    redneck, the point you make about the Windies fast bowlers is excellent. There is a romanticism about the Calypso style, and the legend has grown. Most of it was deserved, but I'm sure there were incidents of poor umpiring back in those days followed by complaints from the Windies, and also examples of bad sportsmanship as well. Of course, the passing of time meant that a lot of the negative stuff was forgotten and only the legend remains. In the case of Australia, a lot of people still remember the bad stuff, but let's face it, in 40 years time, people will read only of McGrath's greatness. Only true cricket historians will bother with articles like this.

  • infiniti_i35guy on August 30, 2010, 10:31 GMT

    What harbhajan said to symonds was "teri maa ki" which does sound more like a monkey. But I personally dont understand whats all the fuss about calling someone monkey and how is that racist, and can end up your careers. I am sure players on the field have used worst words on another player.

  • rollyko on August 30, 2010, 9:48 GMT

    Rudi was well past his use-by date when he finished. He made lots of errors. I am starting to wonder from his comments whether he took the field with an open mind or whether he decided if he was going to give a decision according to whether he liked the bowler.

  • satotheend on August 30, 2010, 9:40 GMT

    Ha ha ha ha!! Saw the article heading and thought... This is something the one-eyed Asian fan will just LOVE to read. I am South African and I am proud of Rudi Koertzen and his views. But Glenn Mcgrath was ABSOLUTELY brilliant. Definitely the best ever "line and lengther". And I think many people forget that he could make the older ball "talk" too. I love the bad-ass persona on the field and Mcgrath and Warne brought that typical Aussie attitude to the park but were great guys off it. They played hard and as a South African (although we got hammered by them more often than not) I really enjoyed the way they played. And to the whining and crying Indian fans... Sorry guys.. Kail Dev is abt your biggest legend... As a bowler he doesn't even come close to McGrath... So stop whining please....Good luck Rudi!!

  • Mitcher on August 30, 2010, 9:33 GMT

    I'd rather support an arrogant, succesful side that one from a corupt, match-fixing (sub) continent.

  • Rooboy on August 30, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    @TipTop32, please tell me you're joking. How can you make the statement 'Racism has been officially approved by ICC for white players ' when the most blatant piece of on field racism was perpetrated by an indian, who basically got away scot free? It also virtually ended Symonds career because he was not the same after the Australian cricket board hung him out to dry rather than stand up to BCCI bullying. @Blythesville, your comment is just wrong and is obviously based on your own prejudices because it cannot be supported by fact. Yep, Aussies complained when they were racially vilified, because racism should not be tolerated. But as for just playing hard, they can take as much as they give without complaint because they grow up with it. Did Aus complain about the kiwis taunting Clarke about his relationship break up? How about the whole SA team ganging up to try to harass and intimidate P.Hughes on his debut? Rather than complain, I believe Hughes publicly said 'bring it on'.

  • Something_Witty on August 30, 2010, 7:10 GMT

    Why does everyone assume that arrogance and pride are bad things? Successful teams need to be arrogant to be so successful. Australians are arrogant because we're used to winning, and we don't like to experience anything but winning. I see nothing wrong with that. At least we're honest about it, to me, being graceful and humble in victory just seems two faced and fake.

  • perl57 on August 30, 2010, 6:13 GMT

    No wonder McGrath name was out. He may be one of the greatest bolwers cricket has seen but the fact that he used to whing about every boundary hit by a batsmen still remains. Face it Ozs you just can't play cricket. You need some agression to unsettle batsmen. Worst thing is almost all countries are following this procedure.See what rudy also has to say abt matty and Symonds. They are the trouble makers. Ranjan Madugalle, Chris Broad, Mike Dennis are few of the refrees who always sided with Oz. These people should be done and dusted with. Because they have encouraged this kind of behavior from Oz. Whatever happens on the field stays on field, and they use many offensive instigating language. Whats the point of winning dirty? Then why do Ozs whing abt bodyline? Thats also fair. At least Eng used game.

  • Meety on August 30, 2010, 5:57 GMT

    @TipTop32 - so with the above pictured Sarwan/McGrath confrontation, wouldn't you want to defend the honour of the mother of your children? Get down off your high horse, if McGrath was sledging Kallis would that have been racist? NZ players sledging Clarke for his break up with his fiance, was that racism or just trying to gain a competitive edge? Wake up - you will always be a victim! @Siddarth " I see Asian players getting sentenced for trivial stuff" Interesting given H Singe was found to have been racially slurring Symonds, thats trivial hey? Are you talking about trivial stuff like match fixing? @Subbi - Bucknor decisions went both ways, he has cost Australia & Sth Africa on a number occasions, and is India not a strong team? @Mumbaiguy79 - agreed. @Clive Dunn - LOL too true! @allblue - ALL SIDES IN ALL SPORTS try and con the Ref or Umpire, its not just Australian Cricket. @Sanjay - cry me a river! @nfer - true there should be UDRS everywhere

  • Lion_of_Lanka on August 30, 2010, 5:56 GMT

    @Sharath Komarrajuwow : " you seem to be really annoyed that Sri Lanka was not able to win the home test series even though they were literally playing India's B team" Okay so a team with SRT, VVS, Dravid, Sehwag is the B team? Then what is the A team? The one that has Jedeja? And please I was highlighting the fact that SLC should've asked for UDRS since we hosted the tournament and that SLC has no backbone to stand up and ask for it.

  • BillyCC on August 30, 2010, 5:39 GMT

    Sir Freddie Flintoff, rubbish, McGrath rarely relied on the umpire for his wickets. Only 20% of his wickets came from LBWs, which is about average compared to the other greats (Waqar and Wasim had about 30%, Ambrose about 10% and Shaun Pollock also 20%). McGrath got most of his wickets through accuracy, pressure and an attitude where giving away runs was unacceptable to him. That's why he was always huffing and puffing when he gave fours away.

  • EdwardTLogan on August 30, 2010, 4:55 GMT

    @ TipTop 32 - there is a differnece between mental disintegration and subtle sledging and calling an opposition player a monkey and not having the balls to admit it. If one cannot stand a bit of banter on the field, perhaps one should not be playing TEST cricket!

  • EdwardTLogan on August 30, 2010, 4:50 GMT

    Perhaps Rudi should have a look at his own decisions and form before casting aspersions on the Aussies. Funny that no other umpire has mentioned McGrath, Wareny and co.....

  • Vivek.Bhandari on August 30, 2010, 4:26 GMT

    Can anybody explain the following comment? Refer to the last line of the article...

    "The problem is, why should you have England against Australia or England against South Africa with the system, but India versus Sri Lanka without it?"

  • RyanSmith on August 30, 2010, 4:06 GMT

    @Robbie Spencer As an aussie I agree with you. I would hate for people from other nations to conclude ALL Australians behave like members of some of our sporting teams. I think some of it is cultural. Aussies (I'm generalizing) seem to be of the belief that what happens on the field stays on the field. But they also seem to view some of this behavior as actually a part of the sport. To them, (and I think you'd hear australian players say this) it is a part of the game. And to them this IS true. When you grow up playing sport in Australia, with Australians playing against Australians where they all seem to be ok with it, and where you have Australians umpiring, that's what you get. That's the system they grow up with and it's normal for them. And when the game is over you leave it all on the field and forget about it. Our players don't seem to realize that in other nations that's not the way they play and it's not okay. We don't understand them and they don't understand us.

  • cricket_fan_1 on August 30, 2010, 3:30 GMT

    Guys, the topic here is Rudi and Australian playes. Lets stick to that.. There are other places on cricinfo to comment on other topics..

  • cricket_fan_1 on August 30, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    Mr. Rudi, though i appreciate your comments, i have a simple Q for you. why didn't you say this while you were still an active official ICC umpire. Were you scared that CA will rob you of officiating in their games in Australia?

  • AhmadSaleem on August 30, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    @Sharath Komarraju: Do Tendulkar, Dravid, Laxman, Sehwag, Dhoni, Harbhajan play for India B?

  • redneck on August 30, 2010, 1:23 GMT

    @Sir_Freddie_Flintoff you are clueless! mcgrath was dead accurate, easily the most accurate bowler going around in his time! he deserved the wicket tally he got by his careers end! true legend of the game!!! dont really care if rudi found him hard to deal with! most successful fast bowler ever! its funny how these people commenting will jump at the chance to knock an aussie legend but then praise the old west inidan attacks which were renouned bad sports! i recon fast bowlers showing aggression while their out on the field is what people pay money to see! certainly rather the mcgrath or holding way of playing as oppossed to the crap pakistans bowlers dish out, their bowilings for sale to the highest bidder it would seem!

  • on August 30, 2010, 1:08 GMT

    I'm an Australian but have to admit that as a nation we tend to be pretty bad sports. This is a generalization of course. Glen was probably the greatest fast bowler I've ever seen, but yes he got a bit cranky at times. Off the field though he seems to be a really nice guy, and as far as I'm aware well regarded by teams he faced.

  • Mannix16 on August 30, 2010, 0:16 GMT

    @sharath really? India's B Team? gambhir, sehwag, dravid, tendulkar, laxman, yuvraj, dhoni, harbhajan, ojha, ishant, mithun are india's B Team? Man.... does india's A team have Ponting and Kallis and Murali added to the squad or something? Only thing Indians missed was Zaheer and based on the recent tri series with new zealand there, it looks like they rely completely on the Fab 4 and Sehwag..... wonder what happens when fab 4 retire next year.. will sehwag be next tendulkar?

  • Gizza on August 29, 2010, 23:58 GMT

    @Sir_Freddie_Flintoff , most of McGrath's wickets (I'm guessing more than 80%) were non-lbws. All of the great batsmen he got out (Lara, Tendulkar, Kallis etc.) were normally caught in the slips or top edging a pull-shot. So he can't pressure the umpires to give decision in his favour all that much.

    I don't have the stats with me but having watched Australia play in their backyard every year on TV since 1995 I'm pretty sure bowlers like Warne and Gillespie used to get a lot more lbw's than McGrath. I think maybe around 30 of McGrath's wickets were not really out and there will be around 10-15 which he didn't get get in his career but were actually plumb. But once again remember he didn't rely on reverse swing like Akram or Waqar Younis, he just used line and length which most of the time the batsmen get out in the slips.

  • on August 29, 2010, 21:14 GMT

    @nfer - wow, you seem to be really annoyed that Sri Lanka was not able to win the home test series even though they were literally playing India's B team. If that makes India mediocre, I wonder what that makes Sri Lanka.

    BCCI has a right to refuse use of the UDRS, and they're doing it. Simple as that. If the ICC makes it compulsory and if it can organise the funding necessary to make it compulsory, why would the BCCI object?

  • on August 29, 2010, 20:55 GMT

    There we go. Another one confirms where Australians stand. They're the one who brought spirit of cricket down to slum and still doing it. Obvous to the enitre world except Aussie fans that Ponting has picked up the ball effectively from where McGrath left it. Watson, Katch and couple others are keeping Australian tradition of unsportsmanship going and keep throwing abusive tantrum at the oppositions out in the field. The key thing is that these Aussies escape untouched though... Rudi is complaining now, but how many of them did he book for the match referee?

  • allblue on August 29, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    @mumbaiguy79 There is a difference between an umpire (or player) making an error of judgement in an instant, and what I believe was a calculated assault on umpires by Australian players from Steve Waugh's time onwards. He talked of "mental disintegration" and he was talking about umpires as much as the opposition. I'm old enough to have seen dissent in football mutate from an occasional impassioned outburst to systematic psychological warfare on referees, and the danger is there for cricket as well. If the ump gets one wrong, the players should accept it as easily when it goes against them as they do when it goes for them, and persistent efforts to wear the umpires down should be stamped down on by the match referee whenever it occurs. Cricket has got enough on its plate at the moment, the last thing we need is cynical histrionics from the players eroding this great game further.

  • Clive_Dunn on August 29, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    Wow, Glenn McGrath was a miserable git ? I'd never had guessed that from all those years watching him stamp his foot at every possible opportunity.

    Still, he was a great bowler - one of the very best ever. And part of the reason he was so great is he hated every single batter he ever faced, hated when they got a run against him, hated not taking a wicket every ball. For me, as an Englishman, he was the epitomy of a great fast bowler. If only Gus Fraser hadn't ruined his hip.

  • mumbaiguy79 on August 29, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    OK Rudi. So McGrath and Warne were not perfect, but I think you were not perfect either. I've seen some pretty ordinary umpiring from you now and then. One that comes to my mind is the Sangakarra dismissal in Australia where you robbed him of a double century. To your credit you did apologized to him later. It's a game after all.

  • on August 29, 2010, 18:22 GMT

    No Doubt Rudi was a better Umpire than Steve Bucknor..anytime....Bucknor always favoured the Stronger Opposition....his umpiring decisions have cost India,Zimbabwe n Sri Lanka a lot of matches.....

  • on August 29, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    am still surprised how Mc Grath / Stuart broad and Nel got away with their on field behavior. I see Asian players getting sentenced for trivial stuff

  • Tiptop32 on August 29, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    I wont blame Aussie players or Broad. I will only blame the umpires and the match referees who will punish the Asian and WI players severely with highest possible punishment whereas others will be let off without any punishment or a mild namesake punishment. This is how ICC is functioning till date and some players like McGrath, Broad, etc are taking advantage of that. I can tell lot of incidents with concrete proof of how the match referees do their task partially. Racism has been officially approved by ICC for white players to abuse other players but when others respond they will be punished severely. We have two laws in cricket one for white players and other for non-white players. ICC's rule for punishment still imposes slavery on the non-white players.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on August 29, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Glenn McGrath's behaviour on the field was a real disgrace. He used to put a lot of pressure on the umpires to give decisions his way. And most of the time the umpire would eventually give an incorrect decision in his favour. Glenn McGrath would have got hardly 250 test wickets instead of 563 if he did not employ these underhand tactics.

  • Blythesville on August 29, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    What we have observed and always known for years. 4 Aussies singled out. The Aussies got away with so much unsportsmanlike behaviour. While it is admirable to see what "fierce competitors" and "passionate" players they were, they were the first to complain about others who did it to them.

  • Lion_of_Lanka on August 29, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    "The problem is, why should you have England against Australia or England against South Africa with the system, but India versus Sri Lanka without it?"

    It's because the BCCI are a bunch of sissies who rely on umpire errors to win the game for their mediocre team. Glad it backfired in the 4th ODI in the tournament. How come an intellect person such as Dhoni doesn't know how to use it? Oh that's right, because Dhoni is a muppet of the BCCI and SLC has no backbone to stand up against BCCI and ask for UDRS. We hosted the series and we should've got the say but no, since BCCI financially backs SLC, SLC has to what BCCI wants. It's a shame such a great cricket team is backed by a board that has no backbone (SLC) Where is Arjuna when you need him?

  • Eunhyuk on August 29, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    warney and Mcgrath both used to do that. constant appealing for no reason at all.. sometimes one wondered if they knew the laws or not!!

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  • Eunhyuk on August 29, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    warney and Mcgrath both used to do that. constant appealing for no reason at all.. sometimes one wondered if they knew the laws or not!!

  • Lion_of_Lanka on August 29, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    "The problem is, why should you have England against Australia or England against South Africa with the system, but India versus Sri Lanka without it?"

    It's because the BCCI are a bunch of sissies who rely on umpire errors to win the game for their mediocre team. Glad it backfired in the 4th ODI in the tournament. How come an intellect person such as Dhoni doesn't know how to use it? Oh that's right, because Dhoni is a muppet of the BCCI and SLC has no backbone to stand up against BCCI and ask for UDRS. We hosted the series and we should've got the say but no, since BCCI financially backs SLC, SLC has to what BCCI wants. It's a shame such a great cricket team is backed by a board that has no backbone (SLC) Where is Arjuna when you need him?

  • Blythesville on August 29, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    What we have observed and always known for years. 4 Aussies singled out. The Aussies got away with so much unsportsmanlike behaviour. While it is admirable to see what "fierce competitors" and "passionate" players they were, they were the first to complain about others who did it to them.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on August 29, 2010, 17:09 GMT

    Glenn McGrath's behaviour on the field was a real disgrace. He used to put a lot of pressure on the umpires to give decisions his way. And most of the time the umpire would eventually give an incorrect decision in his favour. Glenn McGrath would have got hardly 250 test wickets instead of 563 if he did not employ these underhand tactics.

  • Tiptop32 on August 29, 2010, 17:44 GMT

    I wont blame Aussie players or Broad. I will only blame the umpires and the match referees who will punish the Asian and WI players severely with highest possible punishment whereas others will be let off without any punishment or a mild namesake punishment. This is how ICC is functioning till date and some players like McGrath, Broad, etc are taking advantage of that. I can tell lot of incidents with concrete proof of how the match referees do their task partially. Racism has been officially approved by ICC for white players to abuse other players but when others respond they will be punished severely. We have two laws in cricket one for white players and other for non-white players. ICC's rule for punishment still imposes slavery on the non-white players.

  • on August 29, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    am still surprised how Mc Grath / Stuart broad and Nel got away with their on field behavior. I see Asian players getting sentenced for trivial stuff

  • on August 29, 2010, 18:22 GMT

    No Doubt Rudi was a better Umpire than Steve Bucknor..anytime....Bucknor always favoured the Stronger Opposition....his umpiring decisions have cost India,Zimbabwe n Sri Lanka a lot of matches.....

  • mumbaiguy79 on August 29, 2010, 18:48 GMT

    OK Rudi. So McGrath and Warne were not perfect, but I think you were not perfect either. I've seen some pretty ordinary umpiring from you now and then. One that comes to my mind is the Sangakarra dismissal in Australia where you robbed him of a double century. To your credit you did apologized to him later. It's a game after all.

  • Clive_Dunn on August 29, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    Wow, Glenn McGrath was a miserable git ? I'd never had guessed that from all those years watching him stamp his foot at every possible opportunity.

    Still, he was a great bowler - one of the very best ever. And part of the reason he was so great is he hated every single batter he ever faced, hated when they got a run against him, hated not taking a wicket every ball. For me, as an Englishman, he was the epitomy of a great fast bowler. If only Gus Fraser hadn't ruined his hip.

  • allblue on August 29, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    @mumbaiguy79 There is a difference between an umpire (or player) making an error of judgement in an instant, and what I believe was a calculated assault on umpires by Australian players from Steve Waugh's time onwards. He talked of "mental disintegration" and he was talking about umpires as much as the opposition. I'm old enough to have seen dissent in football mutate from an occasional impassioned outburst to systematic psychological warfare on referees, and the danger is there for cricket as well. If the ump gets one wrong, the players should accept it as easily when it goes against them as they do when it goes for them, and persistent efforts to wear the umpires down should be stamped down on by the match referee whenever it occurs. Cricket has got enough on its plate at the moment, the last thing we need is cynical histrionics from the players eroding this great game further.