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South Africa gear up for 'Biff Day'

Firdose Moonda

January 29, 2013

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A fan writes a tribute for Graeme Smith on a giant shirt, Johannesburg, January 29, 2013
A fan writes a tribute to Graeme Smith on a giant shirt displayed in a Johannesburg mall © ESPNcricinfo Ltd
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It's shaping up to be a big week for Graeme Smith. On Monday, he announced his wife is expecting the couple's second child later this year. On Friday, he will turn 32 and also become the first person to captain a team in 100 Tests, when he leads South Africa against Pakistan in Johannesburg.

Cricket South Africa (CSA) are pulling out all the stops to celebrate his achievement. The first day of the Test has been declared 'Biff day', after Smith's nickname. Those in attendance at the match will sing Happy Birthday to him during one of the intervals and there is talk that a cake will be brought onto the field with candles for him to blow out.

Smith has been given a hospitality suite for his family and friends' use on the day. Among the other important guests expected to be in attendance is the country's sports minister, Fikile Mbalula, who will take time out of his football duties at the African Nations' Cup to be at the cricket.

CSA have also displayed a giant shirt, with the details of all of Smith's centuries printed on it, on the wall of a popular sports clothing store in a mall in Johannesburg. Supporters have been invited to write a personal message on the whites and some of them will appear on the scoreboard during the match.

For a man who struggled for affection from fans for a long time, the current outpouring is quite moving. At a signing session at the mall, Smith lapped it all up. He appeared completely relaxed as he signed autographs and posed for photographs.

His team-mates were full of praise as well. For most of them, he is the only Test captain they have known and he has overseen their development and integration into the side. "Graeme has been an outstanding leader. He deserves all the credit that comes his way," Vernon Philander said.

"A hundred Tests as captain - just to play 100 Tests is a momentous feat. When you're growing up, you don't imagine that you are going to play so much," Hashim Amla said. "He's taken on so much responsibility and the fact that he's still here and putting in big performances for the team is a tribute to the person he is and the commitment he has given to the team."

Amla also added a little bait for the occasion. "He got a hundred in his 100th Test, and it would be nice if he made a contribution like that and helped us win the game." Smith played his 100th Test at The Oval in July last year and scored a century to contribute to South Africa's series lead.

Jacques Kallis is the only member of the current squad to have played under different leaders, which means he is also the only one to have been alongside Smith for his entire career. Kallis has been witness to Smith's uncomfortable start and subsequent maturing and believes the changes have been pronounced.

"To achieve what he has achieved, I don't think will be achieved very soon again, if ever," Kallis said. "He's proved a lot of people wrong. He's stood up and faced the criticism and produced the results.

"He leads from the front and that's what you want in a leader. If he says something he'll be the first guy to go forward and do it. He's opening the batting, so he's getting out there first and setting the tone and the example. He's an in-your-face kind of guy who will take on challenges and never back down. He doesn't ask any player to do anything he wouldn't do himself. There are times to be brash and there are times to absorb the pressure and that's what he's developed over the years. He's learnt when to be which character which has probably been his biggest improvement as a captain."

As testament to his ability to lead by example, Smith holds an unusual record. On each of the 26 times he has scored a Test hundred, South Africa have either drawn or won the match. It is a statistic he was only made aware of during his century in Adelaide and said it was something that he was "very proud of."

Although Smith lives and plays his cricket in Cape Town, he is originally from Johannesburg and so this will effectively be a "home" celebration. Smith completed his schooling at the King Edward VII High School and played a handful of matches for Gauteng before he was snapped up by Western Province. He was made captain at the age of 22 and is currently in his tenth year in the job, having captained South Africa in 98 Tests and the World XI in one.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (January 31, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

@Cric_info_pak. You forgot to add Pakistan got thrashed in ODI series against England 4-0 in your home ground Abu Dhabi.Nearly lost to BD in the Asiacup final.Lost ODI series 3-1 in SL and lost 2-1 in Abudabi against Australia. Lost test series 1-0 in SL. If your team did well in T20s, ODIs or Tests, You will be in the top ICC 3 rankings.

Posted by Weloveu on (January 31, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

Biff, will provide teh buffer SA Cricket need, he will show his class and flair, he is teh major behind the troups.

Posted by JoieDeVivre on (January 31, 2013, 6:54 GMT)

If there is one man in world cricket who deserved this it is Graeme "biff" Smith, what a player and what a captain, no words are enough to describe the man. Probably gets overshadowed in this current team because of presence of players like J Kallis, H Amla, D Steyn, ABD etc but man "biff" is special. I truly believe he will go down as one of the finest captains in the history of the game not only on statistics but as someone who commanded tremendous amount of respect all around the world and played the game the way it should be, hard but fair. Deserves every bit of accolades coming his way. Remember Shane Warne talking about him after their stint in IPL with Rajasthan Royals and after that my respect for "biff" has only increased by few more notches and I'm sure this is the view of millions of fans across the world. Take a bow "biff" world cricket is very happy to see you scale yet another peak.

Posted by sherishahmir on (January 31, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

A great example of good, humble and successful captain from cricket SA, for me the most surprisingly decision was from UCB, when smith was made caption over Jacques Kallis, but time proves that every great player can't be good captain too.

Posted by   on (January 30, 2013, 19:00 GMT)

i am following biffy right since 2003 when ever he scores a ton in any format there is a lot of joy in our family .momentous ocassion for this great chap let us cherish the wonderful moments lively charecter and energitic this is what test cricket needs right now kudos to a wonderful test cricketer

Posted by Cric_info_pak on (January 30, 2013, 18:14 GMT)

@Fast_Track_Bully if pakistan is weak team then which team is strong last 2 years pakistan performanc in test....... winning series in newzeland in thier ground... draw test series against so called strong side SA .... beat srilanka by 2-0 ... 3-0 white wash to No 1 that time england..... winning ODI series in india nearly white wash them in their home ground.....winning asia cup..... that is weak team..... pakistan hardly lost in last 2 years .... compare to all other sides even your so called strong team SA lost against Newzeland in home ground by 2-1 and lost all game super eight games in T-20 World cup..... which team perform better then pakistan over all in last 2 years.... and please don't talk england , india and aussies they lost so many series and cup in last 2 years.....

Posted by MasudRUETeee091040 on (January 30, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

He is an real leader in cricket world with his brilliant mentality.

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (January 30, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

the best ever captain when it comes to leading from the front, every time he performs the Proteas follow suite. Smash a ton on friday Biff just like u did against the pomz

Posted by Pablo123 on (January 30, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

errrr Loyd4148 - Actually, Smith's back to back doubles came in 2003/2004, just a year into his career - the first in only his 10th test match. That's when the world stood up and knew there was another great on the horizon.

Posted by ZAB2121 on (January 30, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

Muhammad Irfan has a big space to sign above Castle Logo. Go on Iffy its time to impress Smith with height.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (January 30, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

A good batsman but an average leader only, I think. Hope he will celebrate it by thrashing Pakistan. Pakistan is a much hyped team by its fans - Strong on paper but very weak in reality. They are winning by few individual performances and rest of them are 0 talented. They picked to fill the gap. ICC will not allow to play with just 3 players!

Posted by SuperSharky on (January 30, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

I didn't like Smith in his first 50 Tests as Captain and thought that he made too many mistakes to continue. Now I'm so glad that he wasn't stopped as Captain after leading the Proteas in 50 Tests, because he has changed a lot. After his first 50 Tests he started to change and become a better Captain. Now he is Superb and there is no-other person in the squad that can fill his Test Captaincy role now. I've never thought I would say this, but I'm now glad that Graeme Smith will lead the Proteas in next Friday's Test. Now the Proteas will be more successful when Graeme leads.

Posted by DaveFish on (January 30, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

Captain My Captain. Well done Biff, its been amazing watching your reign.

Posted by Marktc on (January 30, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

Sad to see so many not giving Smith his due......he is modern day great, as captain and batsman. Good on you Biff.

Posted by SAFan11 on (January 30, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

An average of 50 with a technique better suited to chopping wood....truly spectacular. This is a product of his almost limitless determination and self belief. He personifies the phrase, lead from the front. He has often been written off by the cricket loving public in his own country and yet he still perseveres and succeeds. Surly he should be held up as a shinning example to any aspiring young captain around the world. He still has several years left in him so if he wants to he could easily reach the 150 mark as skipper.

Posted by MDWillo79 on (January 30, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

"Those in attendance at the match will sing Happy Birthday to him during one of the intervals and there is talk that a cake will be brought onto the field with candles for him to blow out." I hope none of this happens, it would be truly embarrassing!

Posted by Pablo123 on (January 30, 2013, 7:40 GMT)

Congrats to Biff - it is amazing as a South African, we still see him as this youngster - but he's not that anymore as time has flown. Strange to think he has captained a test side more than any other, almost doesn't make sense. I'm sure he's gonna be around for a few more years, well I certainly hope so, and we will see his captaining record soar. WELL DONE Biff. The guy has been through it all in SA. At first, praised for his scoring ability, then ridiculed for his arrogance, now he's back on top of a the crest of the wave. Great times in SA cricketing history right now.

Posted by kshitijheroes on (January 30, 2013, 7:40 GMT)

Salute to SA captain for his 100th test as captain,what he has done for SA in tests is remarkable.But he has surely disappointed in ICC events.!!Hope they rattle overrated Pakistanis.

Posted by umairasgharbutt on (January 30, 2013, 7:28 GMT)

smith is a great man no doubt but sorry folks Pakistan gonna win the match !

Posted by BaasHerman on (January 30, 2013, 7:23 GMT)

All these side shows makes me nervous! The focus is not where it should be! Pakistan is a very dangerous team and if we are not mentally in the right place then we are in for big trouble!

That said! Well done Biff! The man, the myth, the legend! Happy birthday and congratulations with your double century and man of the match! :)

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (January 30, 2013, 7:01 GMT)

@TommytuckerSaffa i thought the same. @getsetgopk I guess ponting has better win loss ratio as captain.But this is indeed an achievement and smith will have more to come. And about those trillion noises it is because of you fans who drag sachin in every article to ridicule him @Ali_Aziz May be if sachin had the same luxury of smith(likes of kallis, pollock steyn &co) his records would have bean more meaningful to you. Still remember how pakistani fans ridiculed his 136 (pak) and 175(Aus) when he took the team to close but only to be thrown away by his team members. I know you will never respect this guy for obvious reasons but may be you should leave him alone in other forums and when he is retired.

Posted by Faarhan on (January 30, 2013, 5:48 GMT)

I still remember i used to tell one of my friend in 2004/05, This guy will be a LEGEND one day, hopefully G.Smith will score many more runs and achieve very big ! Best of Luck Biff !!!

Posted by SherjilIslam on (January 30, 2013, 5:03 GMT)

My well wishes for GS.Incredible achievement.@Faizan_Bahadur : 100 percent in agreement with you, i hope your country-mate getsetgopk is listening, who has the tendency to drag India in any irrelevant post from nowhere.

Posted by C.A-SA1987 on (January 30, 2013, 4:05 GMT)

@Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (January 29 2013, 21:10 PM GMT):

Well said sir, well said.

Team victory first, personal milestones second.

Focus, focus some more, and don't stop focussing for an entire 5 days. If we win, then we can indulge all this hype.

Posted by lesslowe on (January 30, 2013, 3:56 GMT)

Congrats to a great captain / batsman. Good going !

Posted by wakaPAK on (January 30, 2013, 3:28 GMT)

Well, I hope he performs well as a player on his birthday but I hope Pakistan go on to win the match... lol, our tend seems to give chances to birthday boy but I'm sure Smith won't need any...

Posted by emrates on (January 30, 2013, 3:01 GMT)

a typically Pakistan mind will drop azhar ali because we pakistani dont look at his test average and how well he has done in the past..educated mind will play him because he is the one deserve damn player at 1 down day cricket is different from test.he is real test player..warm up match has nothing to do with real test..i have seen this guys every test inning..i know its gonna be great struggle for him in this series due to pitch and conditions...but he is fighter and does justice to his place in team..drop asad shafiq for nasir jhamshed and the rest of the team stays same as we of luck pakistan!

Posted by ak_dragon on (January 30, 2013, 1:28 GMT)

Cricketing Brain with Born Leadership qualities......!

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (January 29, 2013, 22:14 GMT)

As an England fan, I have to say this is a momentous achievement for Smith, he has been such a competitor during his career. He always wanted a piece of England whenever SA/ENG played, you could see it in everything he did. From when he first played here, scoring 277 at Lords (to put a well-judged end to Nasser Hussain's tenure), to the last series in England, where he knew then, at that time, just what a mighty effect winning the first test (with Hashim Amla on board and the chance to bat first on a beautiful deck) would have upon the rest of the series. He has had some great players at his disposal over the years, and rightly took South Africa to the summit last summer. Hope he has a good 100th test.

Posted by maddy20 on (January 29, 2013, 22:03 GMT)

Congrats Biff. I would rate you as the best test captain in recent times(yes better than Ricky Ponting). Why? COnsistent success all over the world, especially in England where he retired one English captain after each tour(Nasser, Vaughan, Strauss). I am pretty much sure that you will add Misbah-Ul-Haq to your list of "Casualties" if you can call it that! Keep going Biff and all the best to the SA team!

Posted by getsetgopk on (January 29, 2013, 21:21 GMT)

In the 99 tests he played as a captain, achieved 47 victories, 25 losses and 26 draws that makes it a win loss ratio of nearly two. That would be any captains dream and by the looks of it, its going to stay a dream for captains for a long long time. South Africa has always been less hyped and talked up team, they have produced some of the most talented players I have ever seen, polluck, donald, kluzner, boucher, procter, steyn are just a few of them. A hundred percent talent, unlike india where its 2% skill and 98% hype generated by 1.2 trillion mouths.

Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (January 29, 2013, 21:10 GMT)

This all sounds wonderful, but please don't lose focus on the 1st day of the 1st Test of a tough series. The guy is a legend and has contributed to many of the wonderful memories that I have of the Proteas. But this hulabaloo will be welcomed by the opposition and I can't help but think it is innapropriate. Get the job done and then have your cake and massive shirt.

Posted by crashed on (January 29, 2013, 20:35 GMT)

SRT Played in 194 tests and Allan Border in 154 tests however I doubt if either captained their respective teams to 100 games ... Gratz Graeme gr8 player gr8 Captain and gr8 team :) u still have some ways to go to get to 200 tests - go for it :)

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 20:33 GMT)

Congrats to Graeme Smith on such a remarkable feat. Can Pakistan become the Marty McFly to his Biff?

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

100 tests (probably many more) as captain will remain a record for ages, like Bradman's average, Sachin's 100 centuries (probably many more) and Murali's 800 test wickets.

Posted by kami_alvi on (January 29, 2013, 19:19 GMT)

Still remember when SA announced a youngest captain ever in world of test cricket. And the time passed by n now he has become a legend with 100 tests as captain! Well done Smith! Best of luck in future!

Posted by Robster1 on (January 29, 2013, 18:52 GMT)

Tremendous achievement indeed and under trying circumstances. When the ICC eventually delete the silly one off World Test (as they retrospectively did the similar "test" tours of the early 70's) the second test will rightly be seen as Smith's 100th as skipper. Bring on many more.

Posted by sirvivfan on (January 29, 2013, 18:42 GMT)

Great leader. Playing a vital role for new South Africa. I have lot of respect for him, compared to guys who have abandoned their native country and have become mercenaries because they did like the change. Good luck to him, though I don't want him to be too successful on the day as I am Pakistan supporter. Well done Biff!

Posted by gottalovetheraindance on (January 29, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

Playing over 100 tests is a great achievement, having an average of almost 50 as an opener for such an extended run 'considering he plays a fair amount of cricket in tough batting conditions' is amazing, leading your team in almost 100 tests & winning more than half of them is outstanding But to do all this with the burden of taking leadership after the whole Cronje Catastrophe at the inexperienced age of 22 with only 8 tests under his belt is almost superhuman. I put Smith over Kallis 6 times out of 10

Posted by Sports4Youth on (January 29, 2013, 17:53 GMT)

Smith. This name will remained itched in stone in South African cricket for a long long time to come. He will certaintly be "one of the youngest Captain" in international cricket if not "the youngest captain" . Add to that 100 tests as captain, this is just unbelieavable. And the guy is still just 32. By the time he finishes, His record as Captain will be beyond everyones reach.

Posted by M.Y.Ali on (January 29, 2013, 17:51 GMT)

@ WeeBee, I believe you are lost in dreams, last time PAK met SA, it was a drawn series and the last Test Series PAK played was 3-0 in favor of PAK against ENG (enjoying their no. 1 spot in rankings). Wake up dude.

Posted by Ali_Aziz on (January 29, 2013, 17:20 GMT)

WHat a player. "On each of the 26 times he has scored a Test hundred, South Africa have either drawn or won the match." A true legend of the game. That is what you need from your star player - bet Sachin's record makes for poor reading in comparison.

Posted by WeeBee on (January 29, 2013, 17:08 GMT)

Congrats to Smith. It will be an honor for Pakistan to play against you in your 100th test as captain. There are much going on with him .. Great. And i just want Pakistan to make this test memorable for Smith ... by playing Good.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 29, 2013, 17:04 GMT)

Hang on didnt Alan Border have more. It seemed like he played forever!!

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (January 29, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

Hang on surely someone like Alan Border has more???

Anyway CONGRATS SMITH - fully deserved and thank you for talking us to No.1 in the world in Test cricket. It was dark days when he was appointed at the tender age of 22yrs old. SA was in the scandal of Hansie Cronje and we had just been booted out of another tournament.

Well done Graeme, plenty years in the tank still to come. !!!!

Posted by Faizan_Bahadur on (January 29, 2013, 16:56 GMT)

10 years as captain!!!pheww!! thats some long time..In Pakistan we celebrate if our captain survives 10 months without any "interesting" incident.

Posted by Rolling_in_The_Deep on (January 29, 2013, 16:36 GMT)

His innings in pursuit of 434 against Australia was a thing of Beauty.. It set the tone and that day I became a fan of this amazing cricketer from South Africa.. He is an aggressive captain and he has built a strong team which has performers in every department. I know he is not a ODI captain anymore but a 50 Over WC victory is the final frontier.. would love to See him leaving on a High note after winning the world cup..

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (January 29, 2013, 16:33 GMT)

Definitely deserves the well-wishes he's receiving. He wasn't a great captain(tactically and aggression wise) but was an inspiring figure. Even when there were calls for his head after his form loss he was still his usual tough self. He did have a decent team to captain throughout his career but that doesn't undermine any of his achievements as both captain and skipper.

Posted by Surajdon9 on (January 29, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

Real and True Captain legend along with Ricky Ponting and Imran Khan. well done smith.Hats off to you Legend.Happy Birthday On advance..What a captain he has, simply great n great....

Posted by Reececonrad on (January 29, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

Well done Graeme, stats don't lie and they reflect an immense record that you boast, but they also do not tell the whole story. When we were in a crisis and you were fairly new to first cricket class, let alone international cricket you were the deep end at the age of 22 and you have responded so well that you can't write a script that could fit as perfectly as your career has panned out. Sure there have been ups and downs, but to remember all the amazing triumphs 438, 2008 and 2012 beating england and australia name a few. I have a been a massive supporter of yours for a very long time and its great that you finally get some recognition for your achievements. Take a bow Mr Smith.

Posted by tickcric on (January 29, 2013, 15:29 GMT)

The way CSA is marking Smith's 100th Test as captain shows the love and admiration South Africans have for him. He deserves every bit of it. People know that the contribution of someone like Smith cannot be seen through statistics alone ( potent as it is anyways). I think it will be a memorable day for Smith, his family, team mates & countless fans & admirers. And who knows Smith might just add to the glory by cracking yet another ton in the momentous match! Congrats Graeme Smith.

Posted by PrasPunter on (January 29, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

Biff thoroughly deserves all the accolades !! A fierce competitor, a gritty batsman and a highly successful captain. Not losing an overseas test-series for more than 6 years is no ordinary thing !! Respect to Biff !! Good luck and best wishes !!

Posted by loveall on (January 29, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

Tremendous Total test 107 as captain 100. Simply a dream career. Good Luck From a Canadian Fan

Posted by TRIN999 on (January 29, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

A supporter from India >>> Great achievement .....Keep going mighty and meaty Biff

Posted by SurlyCynic on (January 29, 2013, 15:05 GMT)

It's a great achievement to captain a test side 100 times, so congrats to him.

I do feel, however, that the celebrations should come after the game, not before or during. Forget about singing 'happy birthday' and stuff like that, the focus should be 100% on a test against a dangerous Pakistan side. Once the game is over (hopefully won) then the shirt signing and interviews can take place.

Posted by Paracha420 on (January 29, 2013, 15:03 GMT)

Gr8 achievment as a test captain he is argubaly a gr8 leader i still remember his hundred in australia with a broken hand,who would have thought that a 22 year old unexprienced player will lead his team to 100 tests///.....all the best Greame Smith

Posted by   on (January 29, 2013, 14:42 GMT)

I can still remember you pulling brett lee when he bowled balls in the high 150's. You scoring your double tons in consecutive tests after being chosen as captain. I remember how the people called for your head when you lost form and I knew that you would get runs as all great cricketers do. From being this hot headed young lad to being the person you are now. Hope you captain the test side a while longer. SA salute you mr. Smith.

Posted by StarsnStumps on (January 29, 2013, 14:31 GMT)

An amazing achievement. He might not be the most tactically brilliant captain but when it comes to leading by example i don't think anyone can match him. From the moment he responded to Nasir Hussain's pun up till now he has been the toughest cricketer in the world. And i think he is underestimated as a batsman the record mentioned here is amazing. Lots of respect from a Pakistani fan.

Smith: Greatest Skipper ever?

Posted by sunrisers_dktej on (January 29, 2013, 14:27 GMT)

Congrats Smith. . .U deserved this. Hats off to brilliant left hander and awesome cover driver.And nice gesture from SA Cricket board and fans.Take a bow Biff.

Posted by class9ryan on (January 29, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

I have not seen a player who has produced such a result over the years facing so much criticism... He has been a exceptional figure and I am glad that he is leading the No. 1 side in the world.... Tribute 2 him a legend.... People wont know him as the highest run getter may be not as the best opener but will remember for the character he has been .... A wonderful team man and a man who has brought glory from no where when his career started

Posted by Abdurrazaaq on (January 29, 2013, 14:22 GMT)

I must admit that 10 years ago I thought it was a completely absurd decision to make a then immature Smith captain the side. The way he has grown is nothing short of amazing! His proved all his critics wrong! Well done Biff. U truly a south african legend. #Pureprotea

Posted by shankar_boys_Palani on (January 29, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

It's really a great acheivement. Congrats Smith.

Only the players who are performing consistently can play more than 100 tests. You have acheived this feat at your age of 31. Congrats Smith! Apart from playing in more than 100 tests you have lead your team on 100 occassions. This feat cannot be achieved by anyone in future. Because if one has to remain in the team, they have to be consistent.

We always support you. Shankar Boys wishes you a great 2013!

Posted by swat1999 on (January 29, 2013, 14:21 GMT)

Good luck to Smith. I am sure he will be player of the match in Johanesburgh. Hope this 3 match series would be very exciting one

Posted by Bowlersholding on (January 29, 2013, 14:17 GMT)

You go Biff! We will be at Wanderers to see it!

Posted by Gamla on (January 29, 2013, 14:14 GMT)

All hail the great Biff! Well done, you have been immense for SA and cricket in general.

Posted by Harmony111 on (January 29, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

Wow, 100 tests as captain. That is mind blowing. And he is still going strong. Congrats and good luck for the future...

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