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Steyn lays down Twenty20 ambition

Firdose Moonda

November 10, 2013

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Dale Steyn finished with career-best figures of 5 for 25, Pakistan v South Africa, 4th ODI, Abu Dhabi, November 8, 2013
Dale Steyn is happy to play whatever role the captain wants, but just wants to be part of all South Africa's teams © AFP

Dale Steyn has laid down a challenge to the rest of South Africa's bowlers ahead of their next major limited-overs assignment at the World Twenty20 in Bangladesh: if you're better than me, you can have my place, otherwise you will have to "pull me out of this team."

Steyn wants to play at the tournament next March, even though he has not been a regular in the shortest format and has committed to playing all seven of South Africa's matches before then in the hope of establishing himself.

"I want to form part of this puzzle. I want to get my piece solidly in there so people can find a way to bowl around me or we can bowl with each other," he said. "I want to play all the Twenty20s. The T20 World Cup is just around the corner and I want to play that."

Since his T20 debut in 2007, Steyn has appeared in 29 of the 49 matches South Africa have played, including all four World T20s. While Steyn would appear an automatic choice for 2014, he has not played in South Africa's last seven T20s due to workload management but has expressed his desire for that to change.

He wants to turn out in the T20s against Pakistan in the UAE, the two in the return series at home and three against Australia to ensure he is ready for the big event. "[Shorter formats] are not as hectic on the body and it's a lot of fun. You want to play cricket because it's fun. Test matches are really hard, but I find ODIs and T20s a lot of fun. It just keeps me going," he said.

Steyn spent the early years of his career injury free but has since struggled with a range of niggles including hamstring, groin and side strains. In order to ensure he is ready to take his place in the Test line-up, he has been allowed rest from shorter formats of the game. It is thought he will prioritise Tests going forward but Steyn indicated he does not want to become a one-trick pony just yet.

"I feel young; I'm 30 but AB looks older than me," he joked. "I'll just play for as long as I can. There's some fantastic players that are coming up. Marchant de Lange is bowling really quickly. He is a guy we can look to in the future. And Wayne Parnell, he got Man of the Match in the first game [against Pakistan].

"Our cupboard of fast bowlers is great and if there's somebody better than me and they take my place, I'm happy to step aside and let them play. I want this team to do well. But while I'm fit and firing you're going to have to pull me out of this team."

While Steyn's determination to be part of the XI is brazen, he is far less adamant about where he should fit in. With pace and swing his main weapons, Steyn is always the pundits choice to open the bowling but in the third ODI against Pakistan he was used at first change with the Morne Morkel and Lonwabo Tsotsobe sharing the first duties. He was handed the new ball in the fourth match and bowled four wicket-less overs before being taken off and saved for later.

When AB de Villiers brought him back, Steyn bowled another two overs without success but struck in his third spell and finished Pakistan off in his fourth. De Villiers said he is learning to use Steyn when he wants an impact player and Steyn confirmed he to fit in wherever is required.

"I enjoy opening the bowling; it's always great to set the tone. And the players also enjoy it when it's buzzing and the ball is flying and things are happening for you as a bowler. But we've got guys who can do that," he said, taking the spotlight off himself.

"Morne Morkel is really quick and Lopsy's [Tsotsobe] record speaks for himself - he may not be 145kph but at one time he was rated the No.1 bowler in the world. There's no point in taking the ball away from those guys. Opening the bowling is about setting the tone, I believe. You want guys to come out and make a statement with the ball."

Steyn makes statements whether or not he is bowling. He was seen having words with Mohammad Hafeez, a man he has dismissed eight times in seven Tests and who is regarded as his bunny, during the fourth ODI. He was seen celebrating other bowlers' success as warmly as he did his own. He was seen pumped up at every dismissal, punching the air and roaring in delight.

And although he is now the other side of 30 he has no plans to change his approach. "I'm always fired up, that's just how I play," he said. "There's no point not being fired up - I'm a fast bowler."

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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Posted by suzonyeazdani on (November 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

true example Hashim Amla..............

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

i hve senn to bowl donald,wasim, mcgrath,pollock,waqar .they are good but steyn is the best

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

He is the closest to Waqar Younus I have seen, may be a bit better. The fact that he is bowling so much in such batting friendly times speaks volume of his class. He is right at the top for me.

Posted by ramli on (November 11, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

SamRoy ... you cooly missed Kapil Dev, the real athlete but preferred to add Zaheer?? Perhaps you did not watch him bowl anywhere. Kapil was holding the record for highest number of test wickets for sometime ... bowling mostly on dust bowls and NOT the so called green tops???

Posted by Petesta on (November 11, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

I think Steyn should open with Lopsy with Morkel as first change. Morkel is not as reliable as Steyn to "set the tone" as Dale mentioned.

Posted by TengaZool on (November 11, 2013, 7:57 GMT)

Good honest attitude. Away from the nonsense of preserving his body for the "greatest format", and yes, it is nonsense. Dale obviously loves T20 and wants to be competitive, even in a place like Bangladesh that is not known to be a fast bowler's paradise. The truth is - even though we all enjoy Test Cricket, the test cricketers like most of the audience love to be involved in a T20 tussle as well.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 7:40 GMT)

dale steyn is well ahead of McGrath .wasim. waqar. look at his test wicket average . he's taken over 340 wickets in 67 tests .he's taking his wickets faster then any other bowler in less matches. genius. another 30 tests he will have 170 wickets.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 7:32 GMT)

How to be No.1 a true example Hashim Amla don't have resort to onfield antics unruly Behaviour Just calm serinity.Cricket is a gentlemans game or has Everybody has forgotten.roast beef with mashed potatoes and gravy for lunch,cucumbers sandwiches and muffins for tea,Pat on the back we'll played now just a dream from the past. Bring on caged cricket play untill death.

Posted by mzm149 on (November 11, 2013, 7:32 GMT)

It will be a treat to watch how featherbed centurions Kohli, Dhawan, Pujara, Sharma and Dhoni will crumble against Steyn and his comrades on competitive tracks and world class bowling attack.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 7:30 GMT)

with inclusion of steyn sa wil be ready fo a fighting in workd t2o


Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 7:27 GMT)

@ madni42 dude who does count vareity wen yu can pick up wickets... and fo a smal comparison steyn strikerate in test 41.40 and in odi 34. 4 akram strkrat in test 54.6 in odi 36.2

akram is a legend..., dat doesnt mean steyn is not... he is one of th great fast bowlers..., and do check his stats wen he finished his career he wil be far above than akrsm, mcgrath, etc....

steyn is th best, no argumentz fo dat...,

Posted by 504429641 on (November 11, 2013, 7:23 GMT)

Steyn is one of the best in test cricket. He can play T20's too like he has played in IPL for DC/SRH. he was one of the best bowlers in IPL over last 2-3 seasons. If he wants to play T20I, then let him. But having said that, life of a fast bowler is very less. with the tight schedules we have right now (international and domestic, including IPL), i think its better for him to not play T20I's. He is such a force in tests, he will remain one of the best bowlers in test cricket. eagerly waiting for SA Vs IND test series, Steyn vs Ind batsmen.

Posted by Madni42 on (November 11, 2013, 7:12 GMT)

Steyn is good but please don't compare him with Marshal, Wasim, McGrath, Waqar, etc. Steyn when comes to variety.. he is far behind..

Posted by siabbasi on (November 11, 2013, 6:21 GMT)

I'm your fan sir Steyn. You are a true fast bowler and proved it even more today. All the best in 5th ODI.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 6:18 GMT)

I Agree only test match stats shape the performance of any cricketer and steyn is best bowler in this planet dude..... his bowling average is tooooo good than others ....... just i am waiting south africa tour which is too limited only 3 ODI & 2 TEST...

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 11, 2013, 4:49 GMT)

Cpt.Meanster wrote "I guess we will NEVER have another Waqar, Wasim, McGrath, Walsh, Ambrose in our life time."

Too true. And we will never have another Sachin, another Kallis, another Murali, another Lara, another Dravid, another Steyn. That is how it goes with the true greats. There will never be another, because they are distinctive.

There are greats, and there are legends. Only 3 players of our time are really legends. Murali, Tendulkar, Kallis. Bowler, batsman, all-rounder - unchallenged. The records are indisputable.

My great regret is that due to CSA & the BCCI, we'll never see two legends - Sachin & Kallis, on the same field again. Seeing just one was a privilege. The last test between India and SA was dominated by 3 men. Satchin, Kallis, & Steyn. What an incredible game. Sachin vs Steyn was spellbinding, even hypnotic. Kallis, ribs broken, scoring a ton in each innings was an unbelievable display of skill & iron will.

A game like that, my friends, we WILL never see again.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 4:30 GMT)

Please have some basic knowledge and under standing cricket then open your mouth . Irfan and aamer is compare and included list of world gr8 fast bowler go have reality check for your self. Good and great batsmen or bowler is judge on his performance in test cricket.Any tom dick and harry can play t20 cricket. I bet who comment negative about dale cannot even survive 1 over of him and wet pants also for sure.

Please don't include tainted player in great playesr list and bring down there level dump person.

love from India! cheers!

Posted by greenluv on (November 11, 2013, 4:26 GMT)

Hello Steyn, Dude play all the levels to entertain the 1st SA and sec the Fast bowling but keep in mind only play selective games as fast bowler nowadays have hard time staying fit since crazy amount of cricket being pushed in. Good luck as U r one fav pick of a bowler. Luv from the land of Fast bowlers Pindi Express:D

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 11, 2013, 4:21 GMT)

@ Cpt.Meanster accepts that Steyn "can bowl well in test cricket" but then claims that "the REAL challenge is bowling in a limited overs cricket."

Come on Cpt.Meanster, we know you will take any chance to bash a South African because we see you do it day in and day out. However, claiming that the "real" test of a bowler is limited over cricket is simply a pathetic way to try to bash Steyn.

It is called LIMITED overs cricket is because the challenge is limited. Bowling 10, or just 4, overs per game is no test of endurance, stamina, or will power. Limited overs, limited challenge, limited attention span!

One test match equals 4.5 ODIs, or 11.25 T20s. Put this way, the real test is playing 4.5 ODIs, non-stop, for 5 days, and playing them well!

Rohit's century on debut was special because he had waited for 108 ODIs & 36 T20s, for 144 limited over matches, to achieve his goal: to play test cricket - the ultimate challenge.

Try telling Rohit that his debut ton was not his biggest test!

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 4:16 GMT)

@LionsoftLanka- Please don't compare Thisara with Steyn. Thisara has a lot to improve. Remember how Dhoni and Pollard murdered him. I think Thisara is the least accurate bowler in our line up. That's why he is going for more than 6 runs per over in most matches. But he has been able to pick wickets with his bowling style. Hope he will improve in the future.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 4:08 GMT)

@LionsofLanka: I'm a Sri Lankan too, but I seriously think its stupid to compare Stayn with Perera! Perera could be a good bowler, but Stayn's a legend. Don't ask for trouble mate.

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 11, 2013, 3:40 GMT)

@ LionsofLanka. The best way to compare Steyn and Perera is to compare their stats when bowling in the same team, under the same conditions, at the same batsmen. That takes all those tricky variables out of the analysis, right?

In the 2013 IPL. Steyn & Perera each took 19 wickets. Steyn's ave was 20.21. Perera's was 25.15. Each wicket of Perera's cost five more runs. Steyn's econ was 5.66. Perera's was 8.01.

The difference between them is that Steyn does not hand out runs. Perera is no. 7 on the list of MOST runs conceded in an innings. Steyn is down at no. 20, along with Malinga, Jadega, Murtaza, Balaji & ... Perera, again. Every player has a bad game, but Steyn is on that list ONCE, Perera is the ONLY player on it THREE times.

IRON MAN Perera, as you call him, is only more effective at leaking runs and losing games. The stats always tell us the truth. Do you?

Posted by Greatest_Game on (November 11, 2013, 3:34 GMT)

@ gsingh7. In the 2013 IPL, of the full-time bowlers, Steyn's econ was bettered only by Narine: 5.46 for Narine, 5.66 for Steyn. (Min 8.1 overs.)

However, you wrote "on flat ipl tracks he (Steyn) was thrashed by even mediocre batsmen." Well, if that is the case, then every other bowler in IPL 2013 was thrashed much more by "mediocre batsmen." As every bowler did not get thrashed to hell every game, then as the stats clearly tell us, Steyn was NOT thrashed by mediocre batsmen - he was the 2nd most economical bowler in the competition.

Now, are the stats published by cricinfo lying? You say he was "thrashed by even mediocre batsmen," and cricinfo's records say that he was, by 0.2 runs, the 2nd LEAST thrashed bowler. Either the stats are wrong, or you are. I don't believe that cricinfo's stats are lying. I do believe that you have no idea what you are talking about - you just posted trash talk to bash Steyn. Unfortunately for you, the stats tell us who is lying.

Posted by   on (November 11, 2013, 2:23 GMT)

@Iftikhar Ahmad Syed, I suggest you look again at your stats for Steyn against Waqar in tests. Economy rate is similar, but in 20 less tests he has taken wickets at a much faster rate than Waqar has and already paralleled him in 5 and 10 wicket bags. Sure he might not match him for ODIs, but ODIs have changed markedly since Waqar's days on the park, so making comparisons is not so straightforward. Tests have not changed near as much. Waqar's stats look much better in ODI's, but Steyn substantially beats his stats in tests.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 22:14 GMT)

CPT meanster - stein averages averages less than 28 with the ball. Can u name bowlers today that have better averages than steyn. The real challenge is bowling in test cricket, where u have to bowl well consistently to get the batsman out. Not limited overs, when u can pull off cheap wickets when batsman are looking to slog u. Fact is that a good test bowler will always to well in ODI and T20. I think u need to reobserve his T20 stats, they are BETTER than those of Malinga - widely regarded as best T20 bowler in the world. FACT IS A GOOD TEST BOWLER IS GUARANTEED TO DO WELL IN ODI'S AND T20. ANDERSON'S ODI STATS AREN'T TOO BAD BY THE WAY. RAHUL DRAVID ONCE SAID: TRANSITION FROM TESTS TO ODI IS A LOT EASIER THAN THE ODI TO TEST.

Posted by neo-galactico on (November 10, 2013, 21:17 GMT)

I suppose according to some folk in this neck of the woods Malinga is a better bowler than Steyn because he supposedly "handles the pressure" of bowling in limited overs cricket better. PS although Steyn's ODI record is average (although over the last 2-3 years it has been excellent), his T20 record is exceptional. That said, Steyn is still the best bowler of his generation regardless of statistics and any team would welcome him into their ranks in any era of cricket history.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 20:43 GMT)

Cpt.Meanster - That's just bull. While Steyn wasn't all that reliable in his early days as an ODI bowler, he's continually improved, particularly when given consistent game time.

Looking at his stats since the start of 2010 (econ 4.61, 27.3 avg, 35.6 SR), he compares well with most quality fast bowlers in the ODI circuit. And if you check his performances since WC2011 (econ 4.27, 25.0 avg, 35.2 SR), you'll see he's right up there with the elite fast bowlers of that period. With Morkel and Tsotsobe now providing opening and death options along with a number of quality allrounders (McLaren, Parnell, etc.) to fill other gaps, SA can finally reliably use Steyn as an out-and-out strike option - when they've done that in past, he's put in some incredible, match-winning performances (e.g., vs. India in WC2011, against Pak just the other night, etc.).

Speaking of Morkel, with an avg of 23.9 and a SR of 29.8, he's been ranked in the top 10 for years. He's one of the best in the world, mate.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 20:16 GMT)

@lionsoflanka I really don't know what you talking about.. comparing The DALE STEYN with thisara paerera should be a joke.. mate wake up to reality u hardly have 11 players that can play tests or limited overs outside your country

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 20:11 GMT)

@gsingh7 : Steyn in asia, 15 test 71 wickets at 23.59 average, 40.7 average. Against your great indian batsmen in india, 26 wickets in 5 tests, average 20,strike rate 34. IPL is a worthless tournament, but again in last IPL he was in top 5 or top 3 among bowlers with best economy rate. Do some analysis before talking. Cant believe after playing almost 70 tests and destroying teams all over the world still some people doesn't appreciate his greatness.

Posted by LionsofLanka on (November 10, 2013, 19:48 GMT)

Steyn has to accept the reality instead of challenging others. Look at IRON MAN from Sri Lanka, the one & only Thisara Perera. He may not be as quick as any body but much more effective in limited overs. Pace is useless but bowler's line & length is more important. Look at Glen McGrath & Chaminda Vaas.

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 10, 2013, 19:35 GMT)

steyn is good only in swinging conditions. on flat ipl tracks he was thrashed by even mediocre batsmen. he is overrated since apart from 1 good test performance on green underprepared nagpur wicket he cud not show why he is best bowler. his mediocre record in t20 and odis is testimony that when put under pressure by rampant batsmen he loses his cool and accuracy. who was the opening bowler when sachin made first 200 in odis at ripe age of 38?, u guessed it right . it was steyn.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 19:06 GMT)

Waseem,Waqar,McGrath,Donald,Shoiab Akhtar,Ambrose,Walsh,Imran Khan,Marshel, Lee,Irfan,Aamer, and Dale are beauty to world's fast bowling.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 18:44 GMT)

Dear I disagree with your approach.Look at waqar's achievement and then prove Dale better than waqar.No doubt Dale is the best Fast bowler at the moment.All the best wishes for him. Steyn: 75 onedays: 108 wkts-- best 5/25 Economy: 4.87_ 4wkts 5times, 5wkts 2times Tests: 67m 340 wkts BBI: 7/51 BBM: 11/60, Economy: 3.28 4wkts: 20 times, 5wkts:21times, 10wkts: 5times

Waqar:262 onedays 416 wkts__ best 7/36 Economy: 4.68 4wkts: 14times 5wkts:13times Tests: 87m 373 wkts BBI: 7/76 BBM: 13/135, Economy: 3.25 4wkts: 28 times, 5wkts:22times, 10wkts: 5times

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 18:43 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster: Real challenge is t20 and odi for a bowler? are you kidding? In test cricket batsmen are defensive, you have to bowl hour after hour, often under hot sun and in flat pitches, to get them out, your skill-fitness will be truly tested. You can live in past romanticism but steyn is no less than wasim, ambrose and other great bowlers.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 18:39 GMT)

Dale steyn running in fast, bowling 145 kmh outswingers is sheer poetry, the best sight in cricket i've ever seen. I really hope he stays fit till late 30's and become highest wicket taker in test(among fast bowlers).

Posted by B.C.G on (November 10, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster-Steyn isn't an ODI great yet because he plays so few of them.In 7-8 yrs of playing international cricket;he's only played about 80 ODI's.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 17:44 GMT)

such a good player! keep doing well for ur country!! love from India! cheers!

Posted by rohan024 on (November 10, 2013, 17:30 GMT)

Its really hard not to love Steyn, he's such a likeable character. Wish him well, and hope he ends up with 500 wickets in Tests, and 250 in ODIs to finish as the world s top 3 bowlers of all time.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (November 10, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

He is a good bowler who some times does NOT know how to bowl in ODIs and T20s. He can bowl well in test cricket all right but the REAL challenge is bowling in a limited overs cricket, with less fielders outside the circle, batsmen always looking to take you on, smaller boundaries and Steyn fails consistently. In fact, he is not alone. James Anderson, Morne Morkel all fail consistently in limited overs cricket. This proves they are FAR from being complete "cricket" bowlers. Bowling in one format is simply not good enough. I guess we will NEVER have another Waqar, Wasim, McGrath, Walsh, Ambrose in our life time.

Posted by InsideHedge on (November 10, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

Clearly, SA have underachieved in limited overs ICC tournaments. These competitions are incredibly important. Perhaps, England is the only country whose fans seem to be indifferent, they almost enjoy turning their nose up in order to set them apart, England's T20 World Cup win is rarely mentioned by its fans or the English media.

But I suspect SA fans would love to see their team lift a trophy. They need to play their best team and give themselves the best possible chance. Great to see Steyn admitting that he enjoys the ODI/T20s stuff along with the importance of Test cricket. And that's how it should be, the real fans enjoy all THREE formats, everyone has their favourite but they're all important.

Posted by ThinkingCricket on (November 10, 2013, 17:01 GMT)

@ Pras Punter: Maybe because not everyone thinks Tests are the be-all and end-all of life.

Posted by Amol_Ind_SA on (November 10, 2013, 16:47 GMT)

SamRoy: I totally agree with your analysis...almost...because I personally I believe McGrath is the most defensive bowler I have ever seen (after watching the game since 1996) relying too much on his team-mates to make catches in order to add to his wickets-tally. So his awesome length of career doesn't count for me. A true Fast bowler doesn't last that long. He wasn't even that much fast either. I count McGrath below Donald and Waqar Younis which are the true specimens of fast bowlers...A great combination of Aggression and Accuracy. My favorite Australian bowler (not much guesses needed) is and always in the near future will be Shane Warne.

Posted by Gregg22 on (November 10, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

I agree Bram. I love this guy two.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (November 10, 2013, 15:55 GMT)

Dale I love you. In an Era where its all about flat pitches, small boundaries, sixes and fours plus rule changes. You defy the norm and continually terrorise batsmen well into your career. This kind of Passion for fast bowling is a pleasure to behold and long may it continue. Surely the best fast bowler we have seen in the last 10 years.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (November 10, 2013, 14:48 GMT)

I'm surprised Philander doesn't play for SA T20 side he bowls great areas consistently and can hit a serious ball if needed as he showed for Jamaica in the CPL. Steyn and Phillander would be my first choice bowlers no question.

Posted by PrasPunter on (November 10, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

I wonder why he should try anything with the limited-over games. He is a champion bowler with test-cricket. So why bother ?

Posted by kartcric on (November 10, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

Aggression marks a fast bowler,and Dale Steyn has it right away.The best bowler I have seen,and he deserves all the compliments he is getting.Go on man!.But just wish he doesn't fire against India in the upcoming series.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

Passion, enthusiasm right there. Talent and hard work has always been there. No wonder he is regarded as the best fast bowler of the modern era.

Posted by mzm149 on (November 10, 2013, 12:32 GMT)

He is the best pace bowler of this era. He should play maximum games.

Posted by   on (November 10, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

i love this guy

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