South Africa news May 16, 2014

SA's next captain not an automatic choice - Lorgat

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The decision on South Africa's next Test captain should not be a straightforward or simple one, according to Cricket SA CEO Haroon Lorgat and team manager Mohammed Moosajee. Although the position is expected to be offered to one of AB de Villiers or Faf du Plessis, Lorgat and Moosajee hope other possibilities will be considered in debates over the next two weeks.

"I would hope the selectors will not have an automatic choice. There is a process that needs to be followed," Lorgat, speaking at the Gauteng Cricket Board Awards on Thursday night, said. "There are several candidates so let's hope it is a tough choice."

South Africa's selection panel have already begun talks and will meet again before CSA's board meeting on June 3 to decide on their recommendation for the next Test captain. The person they choose will have to be ratified by the board before being officially announced. Apart from de Villiers and du Plessis, JP Duminy is has been mentioned as a possible choice, especially in light of his recent form, bigger role in the national team and years in the game.

Duminy has been playing regularly in the Test team since March 2012 with his only absence enforced when he tore his Achilles' tendon in November that year in Australia. He was handed his place back as soon as he returned to full fitness. He has established his place in the middle-order where he plays a pivot role between the specialist batsmen and the lower order, shepherding the tail. He has also been given a job to do with the ball and his offspin has allowed South Africa the option of another bowler.

As one of the more senior members of the side, Duminy is considered to be part of the core group that will lead the rebuilding phase following the twin retirements of Graeme Smith and Jacques Kallis last summer. That Duminy plays across all three formats makes him one of the constants in the South Africa XI. National coach Russell Domingo has often referred to Duminy as South Africa's "best T20 player," and he is currently the South African with the most runs in the IPL, and fifth on the overall standings.

What may work against Duminy is that he has not captained previously but South Africa's administrators have shown that is not insurmountable hurdle. Smith only played eight Tests before being made national captain at age of 22 while de Villiers had not led at any level when he succeeded Smith as ODI and T20 skipper. What is more important, according to Moosajee, is that the person entrusted with the job is able to continue to apply the team culture South Africa have built over the last few years.

"We are a diverse country with a diverse group of players and we have a melting pot of cultures in the dressing room. We have built our team environment around that, which has meant learning and respecting each other's backgrounds and using that to become a strong unit," Moosajee said. "We are fortunate that we've had inspirational leaders in the past and now we hope to have another one. We have four or five people that can fill the role."

Both Lorgat and Moosajee cautioned against looking for another Smith, who led the team for nine years and played in it for over a decade. "Graeme was one of a kind - he was tough and he wore his heart on his sleeve," Moosajee said. For Lorgat, Smith's lengthy tenure has left South Africa with "a lot to build on but big shoes to fill."

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Speng on May 19, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    @GreatestGame: re Amla not wanting to be captain - read http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/story/745753.html. The plot thickens and the Beard looms! Greatest bearded captain since WG Grace? :-D

  • on May 19, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    Duminy at times has been a lucky test selection with many form slumps. I do not see him as a leader and certainly doesn't have the astute cricket brain and steely determination of Amla.

  • Greatest_Game on May 18, 2014, 16:35 GMT

    @ ZCFOutkast predictably suggests "Alviro Petersen for Test captain next 2 years(while Bavuma is groomed as next captain)."

    You endlessly repeat this suggestion, never with justification. Alviro's ave is 37.05, he was dropped once, & his spot in the team is always under question! He's played some great innings - Leeds 2012 - but many more poor ones. Consistently seeing off the new ball is an opener's job, but Alviro is erratic, exposing the middle order early. His spot is no more secure than Faf's, & for that reason neither should get the job.

    Bavuma has yet to make the national team, & his 1st class ave of 35 does not suggest he will. Why would he be groomed?

    Your suggestions have one commonality: they are NOT based on cricketing criteria, but on a clearly evident social agenda. As you have revealed yourself not to be South African, we should not be surprised you continue to attempt to insert your social politics into our cricket.

    Here we talk cricket. Let us keep it that way!

  • TommytuckerSaffa on May 18, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Initially I wanted to Faff to get the job. I thought he had better banter with the press and could handle pressure really well. But the T20 world cup was a real eye opener for me in terms of Faffs captaincy deficiencies. Bowling Morkel for an additional over after he went for 35 runs in the first two was just crazy. Batting order was for me, completely wrong too which sits under the captains responsibility.

    Faff batting himself too high up the order (3), this was out of arrogance or trying to lead from the front, either way it was a failure. Hansie, who was one of our best captains batted at 5 or 6. He put the team first and his ego aside.

    AB is the man for me. Because he is undroppable from a talent perspective and he really wants it. We saw in that T20 World Cup game against England when Faff was absent. AB did a great job and got us to the next stage.

  • ZCFOutkast on May 18, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    Alviro Petersen for Test captain next 2 years(while Bavuma is groomed as next captain).

    He is the best man to lead the side right now. I really can't see all of Elgar, Faf, JP&Morne being able to justify their selection ahead of Alviro over the next 2 years, so he can't&won't be dropped ... alone. Besides I've said before that AB(like Rudolph) was lowered down the order when opening was tough, so Alviro would rightly demand similar courtesy as well.

    TEST XI: Alviro(c), Amla, AB, Faf, Elgar, JP, Bavuma, Tsolekile(wk), Philander, Parnell, Steyn

    I think Elgar+JP will make a good spinning combination. JP can bowl longer spells with an emphasis on containing, while Elgar can be more attacking in shorter spells. Heck Faf can be an attacking spin option too if he works on his game a bit more. Afterall, with his inconsistency, he might need his spin to keep him in the team, just like JP&Elgar.

    Finally, they MUST get rid of ineffective Morne Morkel. Not good enough for Test cricket anymore!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    @ landl47 commented "I'm sure South Africa will be a decent side, but their time as a top side looks to be drawing to a close."

    Perhaps so, but we'll still go on thrashing England & retiring their skippers. That is a given!

    Try this: look at the ICC player rankings.Who is at the top of those lists? Now, count the number of South African players at the upper end of the lists. (Note: KP, Trott, Prior etc don't count as Saffas!)

    With all those top end players, is SA truly experiencing a Decline and Fall like the Roman Empire? Losing Smith is tough. Losing Kallis is tougher. Yet, SA STILL has a FULL XI of established, experienced, high ranking players! SA's biggest problem is who to leave out, not which player to pluck from obscurity, throw into a test to rack up some horrible figures, & then discard for the next sacrifice!

    Don't kid yourself: SA has been a top side since readmission, & will stay a top side. Look at the team rankings for the last 20 years. Read them, and weep!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    @ Ronaldus writes "There's only one guy who can deliver all of this and retain the respect of everyone, especially his team mates and that's Hashim Amla. The question is : will he be prepared to do so?"

    The answer is: NO! Hash wants nothing of captaincy. Tried it, hates it, said so publicly.

    But then, he might change his mind. There is precedent for that!

    In 2009 AB said in an interview he had absolutely no desire or intention to go back to keeping wicket. (Most don't know he started cricket as a keeper, has years of experience, & was ALWAYS Boucher's backup.) When Bouch was injured, AB was persuaded to take the gloves. He was not keen on the idea, but followed the team's wishes. (He had already been keeping in the short formats.)

    After a while he realized that he was actually enjoying being behind the stumps in tests. He found it stimulating & energizing.

    Maybe Hash would say yes, & find he enjoys it after all. Who knows?

    However, his official position is still NO WAY!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    AB started as skipper with a rock star mentality. He thought he had a new & daring approach. He failed, badly, was humbled, & learned harsh, but valuable, lessons. I heavily criticized his captaincy, but his recent showings make me think he has matured, & found balance between unorthodox instincts & the conservative orthodoxy he learned under Smith & The King. AB learned the job, on the job! Never easy!

    Hansie - rest his tortured soul - had unorthodox, but killer instincts, that brought us wins. We need some of his magic back: its time to be less verkramp! AB does have it in him.

    AB is a natural choice: a superb batsman in rare form, with the most international experience as player & skipper. We invested HEAVILY in his inexperience & failures. He is past the initial learning curve, & showing the spark of 'Hansie magic.' Giving up now would be a criminal waste: we MUST have courage, go the final distance, & TRULY see if that costly investment pays off.

    If it does not, replace him.

  • on May 17, 2014, 14:09 GMT

    What a Joke by Haroon Largat and his colleague the automatic choice is world grate batsman A.B.Devil liars only lead person at the S.A peak point

  • Ronaldus on May 17, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Read Ponting's autobiography and Graeme Smith's books and you get an idea of how complex being captain of a national side is. Then add South Africa's unique complexities and you end up with looking for a miracle man . . .who we will expect to lead the side back to the top of the rankings almost immediately. Oh, and by the way; he'll need to know how to bat and succeed against the best bowlers in the world too. There's only one guy who can deliver all of this and retain the respect of everyone, especially his team mates and that's Hashim Amla. The question is : will he be prepared to do so?

  • Speng on May 19, 2014, 17:09 GMT

    @GreatestGame: re Amla not wanting to be captain - read http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/story/745753.html. The plot thickens and the Beard looms! Greatest bearded captain since WG Grace? :-D

  • on May 19, 2014, 11:32 GMT

    Duminy at times has been a lucky test selection with many form slumps. I do not see him as a leader and certainly doesn't have the astute cricket brain and steely determination of Amla.

  • Greatest_Game on May 18, 2014, 16:35 GMT

    @ ZCFOutkast predictably suggests "Alviro Petersen for Test captain next 2 years(while Bavuma is groomed as next captain)."

    You endlessly repeat this suggestion, never with justification. Alviro's ave is 37.05, he was dropped once, & his spot in the team is always under question! He's played some great innings - Leeds 2012 - but many more poor ones. Consistently seeing off the new ball is an opener's job, but Alviro is erratic, exposing the middle order early. His spot is no more secure than Faf's, & for that reason neither should get the job.

    Bavuma has yet to make the national team, & his 1st class ave of 35 does not suggest he will. Why would he be groomed?

    Your suggestions have one commonality: they are NOT based on cricketing criteria, but on a clearly evident social agenda. As you have revealed yourself not to be South African, we should not be surprised you continue to attempt to insert your social politics into our cricket.

    Here we talk cricket. Let us keep it that way!

  • TommytuckerSaffa on May 18, 2014, 13:30 GMT

    Initially I wanted to Faff to get the job. I thought he had better banter with the press and could handle pressure really well. But the T20 world cup was a real eye opener for me in terms of Faffs captaincy deficiencies. Bowling Morkel for an additional over after he went for 35 runs in the first two was just crazy. Batting order was for me, completely wrong too which sits under the captains responsibility.

    Faff batting himself too high up the order (3), this was out of arrogance or trying to lead from the front, either way it was a failure. Hansie, who was one of our best captains batted at 5 or 6. He put the team first and his ego aside.

    AB is the man for me. Because he is undroppable from a talent perspective and he really wants it. We saw in that T20 World Cup game against England when Faff was absent. AB did a great job and got us to the next stage.

  • ZCFOutkast on May 18, 2014, 10:00 GMT

    Alviro Petersen for Test captain next 2 years(while Bavuma is groomed as next captain).

    He is the best man to lead the side right now. I really can't see all of Elgar, Faf, JP&Morne being able to justify their selection ahead of Alviro over the next 2 years, so he can't&won't be dropped ... alone. Besides I've said before that AB(like Rudolph) was lowered down the order when opening was tough, so Alviro would rightly demand similar courtesy as well.

    TEST XI: Alviro(c), Amla, AB, Faf, Elgar, JP, Bavuma, Tsolekile(wk), Philander, Parnell, Steyn

    I think Elgar+JP will make a good spinning combination. JP can bowl longer spells with an emphasis on containing, while Elgar can be more attacking in shorter spells. Heck Faf can be an attacking spin option too if he works on his game a bit more. Afterall, with his inconsistency, he might need his spin to keep him in the team, just like JP&Elgar.

    Finally, they MUST get rid of ineffective Morne Morkel. Not good enough for Test cricket anymore!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 16:22 GMT

    @ landl47 commented "I'm sure South Africa will be a decent side, but their time as a top side looks to be drawing to a close."

    Perhaps so, but we'll still go on thrashing England & retiring their skippers. That is a given!

    Try this: look at the ICC player rankings.Who is at the top of those lists? Now, count the number of South African players at the upper end of the lists. (Note: KP, Trott, Prior etc don't count as Saffas!)

    With all those top end players, is SA truly experiencing a Decline and Fall like the Roman Empire? Losing Smith is tough. Losing Kallis is tougher. Yet, SA STILL has a FULL XI of established, experienced, high ranking players! SA's biggest problem is who to leave out, not which player to pluck from obscurity, throw into a test to rack up some horrible figures, & then discard for the next sacrifice!

    Don't kid yourself: SA has been a top side since readmission, & will stay a top side. Look at the team rankings for the last 20 years. Read them, and weep!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 15:51 GMT

    @ Ronaldus writes "There's only one guy who can deliver all of this and retain the respect of everyone, especially his team mates and that's Hashim Amla. The question is : will he be prepared to do so?"

    The answer is: NO! Hash wants nothing of captaincy. Tried it, hates it, said so publicly.

    But then, he might change his mind. There is precedent for that!

    In 2009 AB said in an interview he had absolutely no desire or intention to go back to keeping wicket. (Most don't know he started cricket as a keeper, has years of experience, & was ALWAYS Boucher's backup.) When Bouch was injured, AB was persuaded to take the gloves. He was not keen on the idea, but followed the team's wishes. (He had already been keeping in the short formats.)

    After a while he realized that he was actually enjoying being behind the stumps in tests. He found it stimulating & energizing.

    Maybe Hash would say yes, & find he enjoys it after all. Who knows?

    However, his official position is still NO WAY!

  • Greatest_Game on May 17, 2014, 15:30 GMT

    AB started as skipper with a rock star mentality. He thought he had a new & daring approach. He failed, badly, was humbled, & learned harsh, but valuable, lessons. I heavily criticized his captaincy, but his recent showings make me think he has matured, & found balance between unorthodox instincts & the conservative orthodoxy he learned under Smith & The King. AB learned the job, on the job! Never easy!

    Hansie - rest his tortured soul - had unorthodox, but killer instincts, that brought us wins. We need some of his magic back: its time to be less verkramp! AB does have it in him.

    AB is a natural choice: a superb batsman in rare form, with the most international experience as player & skipper. We invested HEAVILY in his inexperience & failures. He is past the initial learning curve, & showing the spark of 'Hansie magic.' Giving up now would be a criminal waste: we MUST have courage, go the final distance, & TRULY see if that costly investment pays off.

    If it does not, replace him.

  • on May 17, 2014, 14:09 GMT

    What a Joke by Haroon Largat and his colleague the automatic choice is world grate batsman A.B.Devil liars only lead person at the S.A peak point

  • Ronaldus on May 17, 2014, 14:04 GMT

    Read Ponting's autobiography and Graeme Smith's books and you get an idea of how complex being captain of a national side is. Then add South Africa's unique complexities and you end up with looking for a miracle man . . .who we will expect to lead the side back to the top of the rankings almost immediately. Oh, and by the way; he'll need to know how to bat and succeed against the best bowlers in the world too. There's only one guy who can deliver all of this and retain the respect of everyone, especially his team mates and that's Hashim Amla. The question is : will he be prepared to do so?

  • stormy16 on May 17, 2014, 8:43 GMT

    Ok where did JP come in from? The guy had to prove his worth this summer to hold his place which he did, but I dont see him as a test captain at this stage. For me this is a no-brainer that SA somehow seem to want to complicate. AB is the obvious and only choice and surely he needs to be given the opportunity and if that doesnt work, relook at it. Faf is a contender but AB is alot more experienced and is surely the only choice at this stage.

  • Naresh28 on May 17, 2014, 8:26 GMT

    @Azhar agree with you, but some how feel Amla is been preferred by CSA.

  • on May 17, 2014, 5:29 GMT

    At present for the PROTEAS ; you need a captain to bind things together and therefore an aggressive captain in all terms.. DU PLESSIS is the best possible option. DUMINY seems to be a responsible batsman and does possess a golden arm, but he is no where near an aggressive and an attacking personality. STEYN and AMLA are the best players in the current squad in their respective departments; so you cant afford to lose track of their strengths by concentrating on their captaincy.

  • landl47 on May 17, 2014, 4:03 GMT

    It's going to be a challenge for whoever gets the job. Two superstars have gone, Amla, ABD and Steyn are all over 30 and there's not a lot of real class coming through. De Kock is the only young (under 26) player who looks like being a true heir to the great players of the last 10 years.

    I'm sure South Africa will be a decent side, but their time as a top side looks to be drawing to a close. They need a strong captain to make the most of their resources and Du Plessis appears to be a better captain than ABD in the games I've seen.

  • on May 16, 2014, 22:12 GMT

    Its obvious who theyre going to pick. As long as hes not white heh? Its how the new SA works. Apartheid in reverse is getting into full swing.

  • cricfanGenZ on May 16, 2014, 21:51 GMT

    Haroon Lorgat and team manager Mohammed Moosajee have used wrong choice of word in "not automatic" OR just trying to force there official power and show who is the boss. Because, if a person was not already choosen and was in front of the pack as obvious choice... then person Haroons capacity would simply say "We have a process for choosing...." and not start the statement with negative connotation.

  • on May 16, 2014, 21:42 GMT

    Looking in from the outside, and so without really knowing the true characters involved, it seems to me that the interests of further untapping the vast potential still not yet exposed to cricket would be assisted by thinking outside the box on this. Whereas AB would appear to be the logical successor, there are merits in selecting a player "of colour", as long as he has three key attributes: * cricket ability * leadership ability * willingness AB seems to have these, but if JP does too, then he should be given serious thought!

  • Alexk400 on May 16, 2014, 19:17 GMT

    There is none better than Faf du Plessis. I do not think he is a good batter. But he is a good leader by birth.

  • on May 16, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    Faf and Duminy have not cemented their place in the team as firmly as AB. And AB has lead SA in ODIs. So why not make him the Test skipper too?

  • on May 16, 2014, 18:48 GMT

    has anybody given any thought to quinton de kock as long term captain? he could start with the t/twenty format as of now... from what i have seen of him, he seems to have an excellent head on his shoulders.. and given time and responsibility, he should mature very nicely.

  • Greatest_Game on May 16, 2014, 18:15 GMT

    @ Speng asked "is there some reason why Amla is not mentioned? He's been on the team for a awhile, great player, and probably going to play for a while yet."

    Amla has very specifically said that he does NOT want any captaincy duties. He did lead SA in a few short format games, and said "never again."

  • GrindAR on May 16, 2014, 18:04 GMT

    they have to think about their u19 captain as well... pull him in and get some matches as to get accustom to the tough skin.... and then let him do the job... honestly ABD will suffer in all areas if he takes on captaincy.... simple reason... he go wacky when pressure mounts.... Find a talent who will not loose his mind when pressure mounts.... Nobody handled better than Hansi... Smith was counter attacking... following the newtons law... but one need to come out of the situation and see it from outside and make decision and get into the game.. which I think... Dhoni use to do that... and in the recent retires history... Kumble/Gilchrist/Steve Waugh did that... In the generation old history I can remember only one... Viv Richards did that... So, the seniority is not important in leading the side... it is the quick and steady thinking matters

  • Speng on May 16, 2014, 16:15 GMT

    is there some reason why Amla is not mentioned? He's been on the team for a awhile, great player, and probably going to play for a while yet.

    I liked that they said not to look for another Smith because the idea that a guy can do it for 9 years and 100+ tests is unlikely - if you're lucky the guy can last 5 years and more likely 3 and that's irrelevant of how well the team's doing.

  • LegSpinBowlr on May 16, 2014, 16:12 GMT

    Dale Steyn can be an good option cor captaincy, infact it might bring the best out of him

  • on May 16, 2014, 15:25 GMT

    what about Dale Steyn for captain! why don't teams ever pick bowlers for captains any more ??? His aggression and passion will carry the team forward. I am positive he can be a good tactitian too

  • on May 16, 2014, 15:10 GMT

    I believe, JP would be a good ODI captin and AB a test captin.

  • crktcrzy on May 16, 2014, 15:10 GMT

    I don't know why du Plessis is even an option? He is not yet even an established test player- I don't think highly of his '4th innings specialist' label, bcz 85% of tests don't even need a '4th innings specialist'. And we all know he is not a great sportsman. For me de Villiiers is the first choice, followed by Duminy and Aamila. And I also think that Vernon Philander should be made vice captain, no matter who is the captain.

  • betzalel on May 16, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    Elgar is a good option i think de villers should take tests and duminy odis

  • on May 16, 2014, 14:05 GMT

    Dean Elgar? Puh-leeze. He barely makes the national team and now you want him to captain.

  • on May 16, 2014, 12:55 GMT

    The talk of "diverse country with diverse group of players" worries me. I hope we aren't selecting a captain based on anything other than their ability to lead the team.

  • Stormf on May 16, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    Of the three only FAF has been a captain at all levels of his cricketing life except Test and ODI.

  • MrGarreth on May 16, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    @Richard Payne what's wrong with captaining for 4 or 5 years? That's actually a long time in cricket. Ask Ponting for instance who has a fantastic record as a Test captain with a considerable amount of games as captain under his belt. Graeme Smith was the exception and not the norm. And even he one day might admit that he got the captaincy to early. Personally, if it gets the gloves off AB and moves him to no4 (how many great batsmen have batted below 3/4? Not many) then I'm all for it. AB at 4 will absolutely dominate, partnering regularly with Amla and stop the rot before it starts really. Hope whatever the decision the selectors make ultimately turns out to be the correct one. Feel SA has sold themselves short over the last few months (probably years too). They should be doing a whole lot better with the immense amount of talent in the country. Have yet to see anything awe-inspiring about any of Domingo's SA teams. No direction and therefore seemingly no purpose.

  • on May 16, 2014, 12:28 GMT

    ab ,jp, faf is captain is abd is such excellent captain ab is such future option dekock kepper my 11 alviro kock faf abd miller albie steyn robin morkel philander tahir

  • on May 16, 2014, 12:03 GMT

    I would make Miller the captain... he has proven in domestic level that he can do the job. My XI: Reeza, QDK(wk), Amla, AB, Miller(c), Duminy, Philander, Harmer/Subrayen, Steyn, Morkel, Rabada

  • vatsap on May 16, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    Seriously where do these Administrators come from. There is none better than AB right now. The only worry would be would that affect his batting, which as a fan I am more worried I would be deprived off. Faf is still too inexperienced (yeah Smith was also) and Duminy is not consistent enough.

  • on May 16, 2014, 10:36 GMT

    I think all of AB, Faf and Duminy are too old - they're all around 30 years old, so in about 4-5 years we'll have to pick another captain.

    I'd make Dean Elgar the SA Test captain. He's captained at both franchise and 'A' level and he's young enough to be a long-term option. He also comes across as a tough-as-nails guy that a team could follow into battle.

  • ArnoldVDH on May 16, 2014, 10:27 GMT

    @wanatawu

    You know that is just about so unlikely to ever happen.

    The guy is already on the wrong side of 30 (about 33 I think). AB will in all likelihood get the captaincy, with Elgar opening for Smith and De Kock taking over the gloves.

    That really is the most likely scenario.

  • JamesSmithee on May 16, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    AB is my favorite. But SA will be strong if FAF got the title.

  • vallemj on May 16, 2014, 10:07 GMT

    wanatawu, only players who have made the side on merit can be chosen Thami is nothing more than a average domestic player and has never been a full blown member of the Squad.

  • on May 16, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Deviliers as captain in tests and odi. His deputy in tests should be faf du plessis. Duminy should be playing across all formats.

  • anver777 on May 16, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    I think AB is the right man to captain SA in tests at this juncture !!!!! he's the most experienced guy after Smith & is ideal for new role....

  • Marktc on May 16, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    AB will probably get the nod. Sadly we do not have any great captains in the team at the moment, and I do not think AB is a great ODI captain, let alone test captain. I do support that at the same time, a vice captain should be appointed from the young bunch, who will take over from the current captain. Faf may not be set in the test team but I think he is a better captain than AB. As for JP, not even worth the mention.

  • wanatawu on May 16, 2014, 9:19 GMT

    I yhink Thami Tsolekile will be the next captain as he is already the captain of the Lions

  • SaulB on May 16, 2014, 9:01 GMT

    If AB gets the spot I hope QdK will get the gloves, he is young and may yet prove himself as the next Boucher, with a better batting average.

    That said, smith got the captiancy young and that led to stability, maybe we should be looking at the new generation to find a stalwart, perhaps de kok, Morris, elgar or Miller, ingram, ... that's looking to the future. Maybe behardien can pull himself together for a full 5 days.

    I don't think that AB, Faf or JP should get it because they would need replacing in 4-5 years and we'll have the same problem again.

  • Blade-Runner on May 16, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    AB is a brilliant cricketer. But I feel that he is lacking those tactical skills to lead the test side. He's been leading the ODI side for sometime now but hasn't done much to prove his leadership skills. CSA management needs to think outside the box like they did when they made 22 yr old Smith the captain.

  • on May 16, 2014, 8:09 GMT

    All 3 candidates mentioned (AB Devilliers, Faf and Duminy) are around 30 yrs old.In my opinion, AB deVilliers has earned it. He has the most experience and the most test caps. AB should be given the honours of leading his country in tests.

  • bighit14 on May 16, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    This will be as simple as appointing ABD as captain. I can see no other person to fill in the shoes.

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  • bighit14 on May 16, 2014, 8:04 GMT

    This will be as simple as appointing ABD as captain. I can see no other person to fill in the shoes.

  • on May 16, 2014, 8:09 GMT

    All 3 candidates mentioned (AB Devilliers, Faf and Duminy) are around 30 yrs old.In my opinion, AB deVilliers has earned it. He has the most experience and the most test caps. AB should be given the honours of leading his country in tests.

  • Blade-Runner on May 16, 2014, 8:48 GMT

    AB is a brilliant cricketer. But I feel that he is lacking those tactical skills to lead the test side. He's been leading the ODI side for sometime now but hasn't done much to prove his leadership skills. CSA management needs to think outside the box like they did when they made 22 yr old Smith the captain.

  • SaulB on May 16, 2014, 9:01 GMT

    If AB gets the spot I hope QdK will get the gloves, he is young and may yet prove himself as the next Boucher, with a better batting average.

    That said, smith got the captiancy young and that led to stability, maybe we should be looking at the new generation to find a stalwart, perhaps de kok, Morris, elgar or Miller, ingram, ... that's looking to the future. Maybe behardien can pull himself together for a full 5 days.

    I don't think that AB, Faf or JP should get it because they would need replacing in 4-5 years and we'll have the same problem again.

  • wanatawu on May 16, 2014, 9:19 GMT

    I yhink Thami Tsolekile will be the next captain as he is already the captain of the Lions

  • Marktc on May 16, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    AB will probably get the nod. Sadly we do not have any great captains in the team at the moment, and I do not think AB is a great ODI captain, let alone test captain. I do support that at the same time, a vice captain should be appointed from the young bunch, who will take over from the current captain. Faf may not be set in the test team but I think he is a better captain than AB. As for JP, not even worth the mention.

  • anver777 on May 16, 2014, 9:28 GMT

    I think AB is the right man to captain SA in tests at this juncture !!!!! he's the most experienced guy after Smith & is ideal for new role....

  • on May 16, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Deviliers as captain in tests and odi. His deputy in tests should be faf du plessis. Duminy should be playing across all formats.

  • vallemj on May 16, 2014, 10:07 GMT

    wanatawu, only players who have made the side on merit can be chosen Thami is nothing more than a average domestic player and has never been a full blown member of the Squad.

  • JamesSmithee on May 16, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    AB is my favorite. But SA will be strong if FAF got the title.