The Ashes 2013-14 November 12, 2013

Bailey named in Test squad

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George Bailey is set to become Australia's 436th Test cricketer after beating his fellow Tasmanian Alex Doolan for the final batting place in the squad for the first Ashes Test at the Gabba. Bailey has been included in Australia's 12-man squad despite his disappointing first-class form over the past year, as the selectors instead backed his strong efforts in one-day internationals, including as captain on last month's tour of India.

The allrounder James Faulkner has also been included as expected, as has the fast bowler Mitchell Johnson, who is likely to share the pace duties with Ryan Harris and Peter Siddle, while Nathan Lyon retained his position as the lead spinner. Shane Watson has been chosen despite suffering a hamstring injury at the end of the Indian tour and the selectors are hopeful he will be able to bowl, which gives them a range of options regarding the balance of the team.

Although batting the vice-captain Brad Haddin at No.6 and Faulkner at 7 would be a possibility, as in the final Test at The Oval this year, the likely scenario is that Bailey will fill the No.6 position on debut at the Gabba. During a first-class career that has spanned ten seasons, Bailey, 31, has scored 6011 runs at 38.28, including 14 centuries, but his lack of red-ball form last season initially seemed to have hurt his chances of a Test call-up.

For Tasmania last year, Bailey scored only 256 Sheffield Shield runs at 18.28 and he later conceded that he had struggled significantly with the constant demands of changing formats. However, the national selector John Inverarity noted Bailey's form the previous summer, when he had made 697 Shield runs at 58.08, and it also helped that since Bailey's ODI debut in March last year only India's Virat Kohli has scored more ODI runs than his 1539 at 54.96.

"It was certainly discussed at great length last night," Inverarity said of the decision between Bailey and Doolan. "Alex Doolan is a very highly-regarded player in our eyes ... George Bailey has been in fantastic form with the bat. His confidence is riding high. His performance in international one-day cricket has been quite extraordinary and he's very deserving of his opportunity."

Australia's T20 international captain since his debut in the format in February last year, Bailey has impressed the selectors in the shorter formats not only with his run-scoring but also his calm, intelligent leadership. Although there was no place for Doolan in this squad, he appears the batsman most likely to be included if another opportunity comes up during the Ashes, after his impressive 2012-13 and strong start to this summer.

Apart from the inclusion of Bailey in the 12, the only other change to the side that played at The Oval was the absence of the injured Mitchell Starc, who has been replaced by his fellow left-armer Johnson. At 32, Johnson is set to embark on his third Ashes series and the selectors hope he can make the England batsmen jump, as he did during the ODIs that followed this year's Ashes, while also demonstrating improved control.

"I think he's bowling a lot more consistent at the moment," the captain Michael Clarke said. "His pace is certainly high, which is a great start. But it doesn't matter how fast you bowl, if you don't know where they're going it's always easy to face as a batsman. I think Mitch has that control. He showed that in the one-day format. I said a couple of days ago if Mitch was selected in this squad, it wouldn't surprise me if in a couple of months' time you see Mitch being Man of the Series."

Whether Johnson is one of four or five bowlers remains to be seen, but the Australians are hopeful Watson will be able to contribute some overs despite struggling with a hamstring problem he picked up on the ODI tour of India. Watson is expected to bat at No.3, after finishing the Ashes in England with a century at first drop at The Oval, and Inverarity is confident that will not be all he can do for the team.

"We're hoping that he'll be able to bowl," Inverarity said. "We're not sure the extent to which he'll be able to bowl. He's progressing very well and he'll certainly be fit to play. We believe he's likely to be able to bowl. But it's nine days to go, so we can't give a definitive answer on that."

Watson's fitness to bowl could determine whether there is a place for the allrounder Faulkner, who performed well on debut at The Oval and also made his maiden ODI century in India earlier this month. Inverarity said Faulkner was a player the selectors hoped could offer plenty to the Test team in the future.

"He has been a cricketer we've had our eye on for a long time," he said. "He impresses us with his batting and with his bowling and with his attitude, and his uncanny ability to have an impact on almost every game he plays. If you give him the ball, he always seems to be able to conjure up a wicket, when he goes out to bat he has the knack of forming a partnership ... we have high hopes for him."

Squad Chris Rogers, David Warner, Shane Watson, Michael Clarke (capt), Steve Smith, George Bailey, Brad Haddin (wk, vice-capt), James Faulkner, Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle, Ryan Harris, Nathan Lyon.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on November 12, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    I think this is the best possible team going around in Australian Cricket at the moment. I am really satisfied with the selectors choice. That doesn't mean that everyone here is going to stand up to their position in the team and perform, it just means that these 12 players have the best chances of performing in test cricket out of anyone in Australian Cricket at the moment, in my opinion. I know there has been talk about younger guys like Burns, Lynn, Maddinson, Khawaja, Hughes, Doolan and many others, and I think they just need to spend a FULL season in shield cricket this season, as I think it is important not to throw talent into deep water prematurely. For me, Bailey has shown a distinct knack for playing better on the big occasion, as he has shown in ODI cricket. his ODI record is far superior to his list A record due to this, and I cannot see how this could be different for his test record compared to his first class record. He is a great competitor in cricket!

  • Amith_S on November 12, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    Bailey has 18 avg for shield games last year, 37 overall - hardly knocking the door down but its hard to ignore his ODI form. Yes I hope he is up to it and like all supporters i hope he does well. If he doesn't then i hope Khawaja gets some red ball runs in the coming shield games as we need solid top order batsman. On Johnson's selection lets support him, instead of just bagging him. He wouldn't have been my third bowler but he would have been my 4th choice. He had been bowling extremely quick in the last few months, so lets hope he can maintain that speed and control and we could see him run through the English batting order.

  • Shaggy076 on November 14, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    Karnawata33; I'm thinking your actually trying to be serious. Harris averaged 19 per wicket in the Ashes and right now him Steyn and Anderson are the best 3 quicks going around. In a test match you would expexct to bowl around 120 overs in the first innings and you want to bank on a part timer who hasn't bowled aan over in the last 3 shield games to bowl 25 overs a. And you think what I wrote was outrageous. Let me say this I'm glad your not a test selector and I'm very confident the current selectors have the common sense to pick Lyon and he will definetelt be playing this test.

  • dunger.bob on November 14, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    @ Beertjie: I agree re the 12th man thing. Brisbane is in for a hammering weather wise according to most reports. A steamy, sticky Brisbane atmosphere on a fair but lively enough deck sounds like a recipe for swing and seam to me. There's probably heaps of others but the only spinner I can remember who consistently did well there was Warne. .. I recall reading an article where Shane himself said something about liking the bounce he got at the Gabba. Warne was a leggie though. They nearly always get more bounce than the finger twirling blokes. I can't remember too many offies bowling the house down there though. .. Faulkner in, Lyon to carry the drinks for me as well.

  • 2nd_Slip on November 13, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    The decline in strength of Aus cricket is really shocking, 10 years back I'd never thought i would live to witness such a weak Aus test team with mediocre fringe players like they have now!!!

  • KARNAWAT33 on November 13, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    @Shaggy076: Ryan Harris, One of the TOP THREE BOWLERS IN THE WORLD. Sure as hell. So who are the other two? Lyon and Doherty, I presume. If Ravindra Jadeja can be a Joint No.1 ODI bowler, why not Harris.

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I can see you're not. No point debating with you if you can come up with such an absurd statement.

    Secondly, I highly doubt Australia are planning on bowling 150 overs to the English. If in the worst case scenario, they do concede "500 runs" at the Gabba, which offers pacemen a nice tinge of grass; Smith, Clarke, Watson and Warner, all can chip in with a few.

    Also, STEVEN SMITH is not a bad leggie, he can bowl pretty well. So if I have to distribute 150 overs amongst the bowlers, I am pretty sure I can rely on Smith to chip in with a decent 20-25.

  • latecut_04 on November 13, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    @Yorkshirepudding--Thanks for noting and responding to my comments.But again there is a slight communication gap for which i amentirely responsible!!! .I meant the inability of Indian bowlers to generate reverse swing or even conventional swing for that matter(except Bhuvi/Shami but its too early) as well in the earlier post when i wrote "red ball which moves both ways"!!

  • Beertjie on November 13, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Share your sentiments @Balaji Santhanakrishnan (November 13, 2013, 7.04 GMT). If the weather forecast for rain comes true and hampers preparation, it might just lead to a green top. In that case Lyon should be 12th man. Man for man on current form and preparation or lack thereof I'd say Oz just about has the edge in such conditions. Taking Oz's 7-11 against England's gives Oz the edge. Taking England's top 6 (underdone KP v underdone Watto) I'd give England the edge. Overall a definite but not big edge in batting for England. Taking the bowlers Oz has a definite but not big edge over England. Harris v Anderson equality; Siddle v Broad equality; third seamer vMJ, take MJ. Swann v Faulkner on a green top I'd have to say Faulkner. Root v Smith equality, KP v Pup might be interesting if the latter bowls to the former! As I wrote before, bring it on and we'll see what the new guys (Carberry, Bailey) are made of. Strike quick Oz - England will come back, but there's still the WACA to come!

  • YorkshirePudding on November 13, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    @latecut_04, the white ball moves both ways, the difference is that he wont have faced a great deal of reverse with the white ball in 50 over cricket. The other issue is concentration as you look to occupy the crease more than score quickly.

    Also in ODI cricket you're relatively safe if you hang the bat outside off (Morgans main Problem) in the later stages as a moderate/thick edge will bypass the keeper 9/10 times and theres unlikely to be a slipso you can often pick up 2,3, or 4 depending on where the thirdman sweeper is.

    I've not seen enough of Bailey to form an opinion though.

  • Jagger on November 13, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    In addition, Chad Sayers (RHB) has a first class average of 20 and Mitchell Johnson (LHB) has a FC & Test average of 30. I say again, what would England and G Swann prefer to play against?

    Peter Siddle has a test average of 29, Steve O'Keefe has a first class average of 26. Steve O'Keefe is twice the batsman Siddle is. Again, Chad Sayers has a FC average of 20.33. To make the observation "Australian selection is baffling" is understating the facts. They are amateurs. There is no process, no system, no science, no logic. Nothing.

    The 'Gabba Test team should be: Rogers, Watson, Clarke, Smith, [Hodge-Lynn-Doolan- Bailey], Warner, O'Keefe, Hartley, Harris, Sayers, [Bird-Pattinson-Cummins-Gannon].

  • on November 12, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    I think this is the best possible team going around in Australian Cricket at the moment. I am really satisfied with the selectors choice. That doesn't mean that everyone here is going to stand up to their position in the team and perform, it just means that these 12 players have the best chances of performing in test cricket out of anyone in Australian Cricket at the moment, in my opinion. I know there has been talk about younger guys like Burns, Lynn, Maddinson, Khawaja, Hughes, Doolan and many others, and I think they just need to spend a FULL season in shield cricket this season, as I think it is important not to throw talent into deep water prematurely. For me, Bailey has shown a distinct knack for playing better on the big occasion, as he has shown in ODI cricket. his ODI record is far superior to his list A record due to this, and I cannot see how this could be different for his test record compared to his first class record. He is a great competitor in cricket!

  • Amith_S on November 12, 2013, 4:58 GMT

    Bailey has 18 avg for shield games last year, 37 overall - hardly knocking the door down but its hard to ignore his ODI form. Yes I hope he is up to it and like all supporters i hope he does well. If he doesn't then i hope Khawaja gets some red ball runs in the coming shield games as we need solid top order batsman. On Johnson's selection lets support him, instead of just bagging him. He wouldn't have been my third bowler but he would have been my 4th choice. He had been bowling extremely quick in the last few months, so lets hope he can maintain that speed and control and we could see him run through the English batting order.

  • Shaggy076 on November 14, 2013, 12:04 GMT

    Karnawata33; I'm thinking your actually trying to be serious. Harris averaged 19 per wicket in the Ashes and right now him Steyn and Anderson are the best 3 quicks going around. In a test match you would expexct to bowl around 120 overs in the first innings and you want to bank on a part timer who hasn't bowled aan over in the last 3 shield games to bowl 25 overs a. And you think what I wrote was outrageous. Let me say this I'm glad your not a test selector and I'm very confident the current selectors have the common sense to pick Lyon and he will definetelt be playing this test.

  • dunger.bob on November 14, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    @ Beertjie: I agree re the 12th man thing. Brisbane is in for a hammering weather wise according to most reports. A steamy, sticky Brisbane atmosphere on a fair but lively enough deck sounds like a recipe for swing and seam to me. There's probably heaps of others but the only spinner I can remember who consistently did well there was Warne. .. I recall reading an article where Shane himself said something about liking the bounce he got at the Gabba. Warne was a leggie though. They nearly always get more bounce than the finger twirling blokes. I can't remember too many offies bowling the house down there though. .. Faulkner in, Lyon to carry the drinks for me as well.

  • 2nd_Slip on November 13, 2013, 21:56 GMT

    The decline in strength of Aus cricket is really shocking, 10 years back I'd never thought i would live to witness such a weak Aus test team with mediocre fringe players like they have now!!!

  • KARNAWAT33 on November 13, 2013, 21:31 GMT

    @Shaggy076: Ryan Harris, One of the TOP THREE BOWLERS IN THE WORLD. Sure as hell. So who are the other two? Lyon and Doherty, I presume. If Ravindra Jadeja can be a Joint No.1 ODI bowler, why not Harris.

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I can see you're not. No point debating with you if you can come up with such an absurd statement.

    Secondly, I highly doubt Australia are planning on bowling 150 overs to the English. If in the worst case scenario, they do concede "500 runs" at the Gabba, which offers pacemen a nice tinge of grass; Smith, Clarke, Watson and Warner, all can chip in with a few.

    Also, STEVEN SMITH is not a bad leggie, he can bowl pretty well. So if I have to distribute 150 overs amongst the bowlers, I am pretty sure I can rely on Smith to chip in with a decent 20-25.

  • latecut_04 on November 13, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    @Yorkshirepudding--Thanks for noting and responding to my comments.But again there is a slight communication gap for which i amentirely responsible!!! .I meant the inability of Indian bowlers to generate reverse swing or even conventional swing for that matter(except Bhuvi/Shami but its too early) as well in the earlier post when i wrote "red ball which moves both ways"!!

  • Beertjie on November 13, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Share your sentiments @Balaji Santhanakrishnan (November 13, 2013, 7.04 GMT). If the weather forecast for rain comes true and hampers preparation, it might just lead to a green top. In that case Lyon should be 12th man. Man for man on current form and preparation or lack thereof I'd say Oz just about has the edge in such conditions. Taking Oz's 7-11 against England's gives Oz the edge. Taking England's top 6 (underdone KP v underdone Watto) I'd give England the edge. Overall a definite but not big edge in batting for England. Taking the bowlers Oz has a definite but not big edge over England. Harris v Anderson equality; Siddle v Broad equality; third seamer vMJ, take MJ. Swann v Faulkner on a green top I'd have to say Faulkner. Root v Smith equality, KP v Pup might be interesting if the latter bowls to the former! As I wrote before, bring it on and we'll see what the new guys (Carberry, Bailey) are made of. Strike quick Oz - England will come back, but there's still the WACA to come!

  • YorkshirePudding on November 13, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    @latecut_04, the white ball moves both ways, the difference is that he wont have faced a great deal of reverse with the white ball in 50 over cricket. The other issue is concentration as you look to occupy the crease more than score quickly.

    Also in ODI cricket you're relatively safe if you hang the bat outside off (Morgans main Problem) in the later stages as a moderate/thick edge will bypass the keeper 9/10 times and theres unlikely to be a slipso you can often pick up 2,3, or 4 depending on where the thirdman sweeper is.

    I've not seen enough of Bailey to form an opinion though.

  • Jagger on November 13, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    In addition, Chad Sayers (RHB) has a first class average of 20 and Mitchell Johnson (LHB) has a FC & Test average of 30. I say again, what would England and G Swann prefer to play against?

    Peter Siddle has a test average of 29, Steve O'Keefe has a first class average of 26. Steve O'Keefe is twice the batsman Siddle is. Again, Chad Sayers has a FC average of 20.33. To make the observation "Australian selection is baffling" is understating the facts. They are amateurs. There is no process, no system, no science, no logic. Nothing.

    The 'Gabba Test team should be: Rogers, Watson, Clarke, Smith, [Hodge-Lynn-Doolan- Bailey], Warner, O'Keefe, Hartley, Harris, Sayers, [Bird-Pattinson-Cummins-Gannon].

  • latecut_04 on November 13, 2013, 11:17 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding--I had commented on Cricinfo before that 0-3 scorline of just concluded Ashes did not reveal the true picture.Also I agree with your assessment of both Eng and Aus.But my point was Bailey would face an entirely different set of bowlers bowling 'red' ball which moves both ways and committed to test cricket..atleast pretend to be commited(not that they are world class or unbeatable..)

  • YorkshirePudding on November 13, 2013, 9:28 GMT

    @latecut_04, actually SA were lucky to get a draw in at least one test which aus should have won had there not been sever weather interuptions.

    Aus cricket isnt in as bad shape as people like to make out, and English cricket is not in that good a shape either. If the weather hadnt interupted at OT then aus would probably have won but it wasnt certain. The oval could have gone either way.

  • THEBEAST7 on November 13, 2013, 8:47 GMT

    Dear Cricinfo... please have JM Bairstow listed as a wicketkeeper in the fantasy league not as a batsman.. Thank you

  • latecut_04 on November 13, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    @LAKingsFan--India have done much more damage to Aus cricket than you have mentioned.They led the selectors to believe Punter had more cricket in him(during last tour).They led a lot of fans to believe Aus batting was at least a bit sorted out(remember hundreds,'blistering' knock by Warner etc..again during their last visit)...And cat was out of the bag when Aus played SA.I am from India and this is just an honest assessment of Indian team which toured Eng and Aus last time.But hopefully I really wish Bailey doesn't add to the list.But to be honest idont think there is much chance.he wont face the white ball.He wont be batting against 2 new 'white balls' within 50 overs.He wont be facing bowlers who are clueless,paceless and are lucky to be born in India to play 'international' cricket.read Vinaykumar,Ishant etc ,he wont be facing below knee level bounce either...

  • on November 13, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    I think it is the best 11 that Australia has put in the fray..

    It is hard to leave out any one of these from the final 11...my guess is it will be either faulkner or Lyon or Smith....

    others pick themselves in...

    I only wish David warner continues his from from the RYOBI cup into the ashes and takes apart the English seamers....particularly Broad.....

    Waiting with a sense of longing at a terrific Ashes test series....

  • on November 13, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    @LAkingsFan - They picked Cowan for 1 test and u are saying they lost because of him. Other batsman were just as poor in his extended run, so why point fingers at cowan. I would take cowan over warner anyday.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on November 13, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    The stand out is strength and depth of the Aus pace battery .The young pacers are by far most electrifying bunch world has seen for some time .Add to that 2 of the 3 best quicks in world -Siddle and Harris - and 1 and only 'L/Arm Thomson' , fastest in the world ,Jonson - who is back to scary best @ 155kph bolts and is primed for most striking series of his career,even Ashes history with a M o Series prize as crowning feather to young Aus team's Ashes triumph at home which he will be chief architect of. Also a return to no.1 pos. in world displacing Steyn making him undisputed best,fastest and scariest quick of his gen -famous prediction by greatest -Dennis Lillee- coming true with the ruins of Eng's 4/5-0 battered team as seal .With plenty of similar feats, happiest will be Lillee ,am sure .-:) As to Eng,pitches they will get will be obvious as along with helping home pace attack the quick pitches will target Eng bats pace weaknesses.Eng's limited bowling also has task cut out.

  • on November 13, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    great team selection.will be hard to choose one of these guys as the 12th man.lyon probably will miss out.will be tough for the English to roll over this team .

  • on November 13, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    Australia's batting stocks must be very low when they pick a 31-year-old with a first-class batting average of just 38.

  • on November 13, 2013, 4:45 GMT

    Aus has pikced their best possible team. Bailey is a best person in this time to replace Mike Hussy. But this Aus team is having less experience in Test cricket. Most of the players haven't played with Test specialists players, & this is the main problem for Australia for past few years. On the opposite side, Eng is playing Test cricket at root level. They are waiting for bad balls to be delivered from bowler. They are having slowest run-rate among all leading test playing nations. And that's why they are no.2 currently. All Aus batters need is to have patience. This would be a good series.

  • LAKINGSFAN on November 13, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    India does it again!!! They did it to Ed Cowan. They made a batter out of Ed Cowan and CA bought into that and kept him for Ashes. Eventually when they learned Ed Cowan is not a batter per se, the Ashes was lost.

    History repeats itself. India made Bailey a batsman and CA already bought that. They play him in Ashes. Before they find out Bailey not suited for Test, the Ashes will be lost. Good luck, CA.

  • INDSlider on November 13, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    Baily is definitely better than Doolan. But still he is lacks the ability playing in fast bouncy pitches. He is a sub-continent type player who can thrive well in flat wickets. He has good ODI average due to the last series in India (avg 90+), but he played poorly again mediocre Sri Lankans in sporty wickets at home (avg 20s). Victorian Chris Rogers is a good choice. But where is Tasmanian Mark Cosgrove and Henriques from NSW. Also,medium facers Sayers and Butterworth are missing from the squad.

  • INDSlider on November 13, 2013, 3:52 GMT

    I don't think Baily is a good player who can score consistantly against good teams and in sporty wickets. He doesn't play well in domestic cricket. His domestic average is mediocre. He might be good in ODIs but still not sure as his ODI average above 50 is totally due to the last series against India in flat tracks. He is good only in sub-continent wickets.

  • Jeremy303 on November 13, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    I still think that MARK COSGROVE and SOK should have been picked. 1. Rogers 2. Warner 3. COSGROVE 4. Clarke 5. Smith 6. Bailey 7. Haddin 8. O'KEEFE 9. Johnson 10. Siddle 11. Harris. I'd also consider Cosgrove to take Rogers opening spot after this summer.

  • on November 13, 2013, 2:01 GMT

    Warner is in great form. Four hundreds and a 50 in his last few innings. Big hundreds at that.

    I would drop Watson for Faulkner and play this team.

    Warner, Rogers, Bailey, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Faulkner, Johnson, Siddle, Harris, Lyon.

  • on November 13, 2013, 1:40 GMT

    Mitchell Johnson, if I could bowl as fast as you at my 5 foot 7 inch frame, here is what I would do. No short balls in the first two overs and then 2 short balls followed by two full pitched deliveries to give the slips a chance to not drop the sharpies.

  • on November 13, 2013, 1:34 GMT

    I wish George Bailey the best in the upcoming series. He is a class act and deserves a chance despite his age. I hope he goes on to break Mike Hussey's records in every format (even though I think very highly of Mikey). All the best Aussies and beat up on the lads from England - from an Indian fan who wishes we had the likes of Johnson, Pattinson and other quicks like the Aussies on our team!!!! May the best Aussie win....

  • on November 13, 2013, 1:09 GMT

    Great to see Bailey selected, he has earned it. I would like to see Faulkner play in Brisbane, rather than Johnson.

  • Shaggy076 on November 13, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    KARNAWAT33; How does that team with 4 pacers get through 90 overs in a day then back up for another session. GOing into a test match you must be prepared to bowl between 120 and 150 overs in the first innings. As such Lyon is a must particularly if Watson is unable to give overs. Then you say replace Harris, now this is where you lost all credibility along with Steyn and Anderson - Harris is in the top 3 bowlers in the world at the moment. There wont be any chance Australia will play two left arm bowlers and give Swann those footmarks to work with.

  • Shaggy076 on November 13, 2013, 0:22 GMT

    So many comments about Australias batting woes, however I do recall the English line up only making it past 300 on one first innings in the recent series. It was 3-0 but a lot closer than that scoreline suggests as 2 of the losses were very close and the 2 draws were controlled by Australia before the weather intervened. Im not suggesting for one minute that Australia is definitely going to come out and win the Ashes but I do believe it is going to be a very competitive series. Australia will bat a lot better on home soil and the batsman have form coming into this series unlike the one going into England. For all those comments about the worries about Rogers, Watson, Bailey and Haddin well there must also be concern about Cook, Trott, Carberry, Root and Prior. England are deserving favourites however, the possibility of Australia winning isn't all that absurd.

  • Insult_2_Injury on November 12, 2013, 23:40 GMT

    Great to see Johnson back, finally the selectors have chosen a proven wicket taking wild card with a low strike rate. As long as the commentators realise they never faced 6 balls an over 25mm from off and they got out to wild slashes to bad balls, then Johnson may keep some confidence and target the flat track bullies. Shame that pie chucker Lyon is in. With Johnson, Siddle & Harris we've got 3 experienced bowlers. Give Agar a series at home to find his feet on all surfaces against an international side. He will be the Aussie spinner for the next decade and a half. At least Agar can spin the ball.

  • V-Man_ on November 12, 2013, 23:22 GMT

    So they picked a batsman based on performance in a pointless ODI series on batsmen friendly flat track where even a tailender scored a hundred. Very well done Australian selectors. True genius.

  • LongLiveTestCricket009 on November 12, 2013, 23:07 GMT

    Good to see Hughes out.. where is Fawad Ahmed? Lyon can stop the flow of runs when batsmen want to bat time and will leak when batsmen want to hit out. He never creates any doubt in batsmen's mind apart from when bowling round the wicket .. when one of his ball doesnt turn and gets a feather off Peterson's bat.

  • SmashingBaby on November 12, 2013, 23:02 GMT

    George Bailey. Is it possible that Australia will ever again debut a test batsman who made his name in first class cricket instead of twenty20? What about Chris Lyn, Joe Burns, or Alex Doolan?? They all average 40 or over in first class cricket and are all under 30. Bailey is 31 and in almost 100 first class matches has only managed an average of 38. How long does he have to improve his batting against the red ball and actually perform for Australia in tests before he will have to retire? There's nothing wrong with being a specialist in the short format. But why not pick a young guy who has consistently performed in the sheffield shield instead of an old guy just because he captains the T20 team?

  • on November 12, 2013, 23:01 GMT

    To continue on the Aussie Batting line up. If Watson doesn't play, who is the No3? Clarke is very reluctant toplay above 5. So 3 nd 4 are Smith and Bailey? Good luck with that.

  • WeirPicki on November 12, 2013, 21:52 GMT

    It's pretty sad when a limited overs specialist like Bailey makes the team. Sorry George but you are not up to Test level, then again neither are a few other "batsmen" in that side.

  • HOMEBREW on November 12, 2013, 21:11 GMT

    Jonathan_E totaly agree with you, Dougie has come back with that fire in the belly and standing toe to toe with the batsman, he should be in. How on earth Cameron White did'nt make it into the side is beyond me. He is a much more mature cricketer than when he first played for Australia, plus he bowl some spin & he is a good fielder. As Bailey stated "I strugle with the change in format" So why would you pick someone who doesn't have that confidence? Bailey's first shield game scores not many, White's first shield game scores 50's in both innings.

  • on November 12, 2013, 19:27 GMT

    Lack of quality spinner is going to hurt Australia big time. BTW looks like the best possible team available at the moment. Good Luck Australia since u need it the most at the moment. From an India Fan

  • KARNAWAT33 on November 12, 2013, 18:58 GMT

    A balanced XI for Gabba would be (in batting order):

    Warner, Rogers (Explosive and experienced opening pair, both batsmen are in form)

    Clarke (As PUNTER said, "The best batsman should bat at No.3")

    Bailey, Smith, Watson (a middle order which has the right mix of youth and experience, all batsmen can adapt and play in any mode as per the requirement of the team)

    Haddin (not in great form, but a fierce competitor and Oz's best glove man)

    Faulkner, Johnson, Siddle, Harris (A strong pace attack on the green tinge of Gabba)

    Smith's leg spin can be put go good use, plus Pup n Watto can chip in with a few if required if their back n hamstring hold up, respectively.

    Playing Lyon would prove useless frankly, he won't be able to penetrate the English batsmen, but if OZ want to play a spinner for the 'heck of it', Harris can be replaced.

    Also, James Faulkner and Mitchell Johnson provide a very long tail which will come in handy looking at Australia's recent history of batting collapses.

  • on November 12, 2013, 18:40 GMT

    The opening combination is the weakest link in the lineup. Warner is unpredictable, Rogers is old and not agile. Australia should look to bring back Marcus North a formidable opener or give Aaron Finch a chance.

  • on November 12, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    Leave nathan lyon from the XI and play the rest. This is the best possible 11 aussies could play with

  • milepost on November 12, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    Chris_P, LOL. Nice one, all that snooty nosed stuff from those elitists deserves it so I like your comment. It is just cricket, we just want a good contest and you want a thrashing? Cmon, the best outcome is a great battle, an enthralling contest, anything else just ponders to people with special needs and inferiority complexes!

  • Jonathan_E on November 12, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    What on earth happened to Doug Bollinger? He's still playing, and has a Test bowling average of under 26. Yet he hasn't been selected for three years. Why not?

  • AshesErnie on November 12, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    I'd rather have England's 1953 pairing of Watson and Bailey to bat for my life than these two wannabes.

  • on November 12, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    australia have lacked quality spinners over the years michael beer or kreja r far better than lyon

  • mrmonty on November 12, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    Why is Steve Smith in the Test team? The bloke can't stand still for a millisecond.

  • on November 12, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    Oh Boy, this Aussie batting line up must be sending shivers down the spine of the fans. You have Warner who is very unpredictable, Steve Smith who is just finding his feet and Debutant Baily. The only reliables are Rogers and Clarke. The tail starts at Six and may be even before? Haddin is a fighter who wil give you 30 and 40s but no more. Bowlers who can bat a bit Johnson, Siddle are not exactly your best backup plan. Not quite sure what the selectors game plan is for this series. This line up doesn't sound very convincing. Good luck Australia.

  • Chris_P on November 12, 2013, 16:32 GMT

    @Milhouse79. Nice that you have put us all in one category old boy. I'll do you a favour and cast you in the small unknowledable big mouthed whingers category we are all familiar with, but unlike many of your fellow countrymen, who actually put meaningful statements about cricket, yours, FFL, et al do provide comic relief. Chin up and all that toff......

  • Jaffa79 on November 12, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    @ Millermin, who is providing the hype mate? England have beaten you guys in the last 3 series! 3 times by an innings last time in Aus, 15 minutes away from 4-0 this summer and you have been spanked by India and beaten by SA in the meantime! You blokes are the ones banging on about your amazing bowling line up with Mitchell 'scary' Johnson being touted as the quickest bowler ever! You guys are running your mouths off about your chances, not us. Like most Aussies, I expect you to crow until the action starts and then, like your supporters, will stay at home and sulk when the going gets tough.

  • on November 12, 2013, 15:43 GMT

    he is good player nd a captain of his team i think he will his century in a debut ;-)

  • Millermin on November 12, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Nothing to fear. Autralia prepare for a wooping. 3-0 to England at least.

  • milepost on November 12, 2013, 15:19 GMT

    Chris_P - Thanks I had a feeling about Gilly and NSW but did not know that. YorkshirePudding I think you are right, I am pretty confident looking at the sides Australia will win the Ashes, albeit narrowly but I think they will win 2 or 3 tests, especially the Gabba and WACA. I just don not see England winning in Australia, they are not the team of 2010-2011. There is no doubt that England are a very good side but they are closer to Australia than they are South Africa. Not to mention with two days in Sydney looking like a washout their preparation will be limited. I hope for a compelling contest, a repeat of 2005 would be nice, with a different result!

  • wonderstar1 on November 12, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    Time for Australia to show these overhyped poms their true place. @FFL are you listening?

  • vsroc on November 12, 2013, 14:42 GMT

    Posted by VenkatSraman on (November 12,20130 Commendable job has been done by Australian selection committee in selecting the beat possible cricket team to play against England in the Ashes series.The selected Australian players will prove their worth in coming out with flying colours.

  • brusselslion on November 12, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    @James_Murphy: I disagree with some of your markings (e.g. Warner 8; Carberry 4) but I agree that England will miss Bresnan (and Prior if he's not fit). 3-0 flattered England in the last series but it could be a similar scoreline this time round. There again, as you say, it could be Australia that are 3 up. IMO there's not much between the two teams.

  • on November 12, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    where is the astonishing boy, ashton agar, the nearly century maker on debut???

  • on November 12, 2013, 14:30 GMT

    I reckon Bailey would do the same as Rohit Sharma did and also similar taught around him too before his debut but made a mark. It's now for bailey to set the highest score by a debutant.

  • cosmos_kapil on November 12, 2013, 14:21 GMT

    Australia's bowling is no doubt going down after the retirement of some greats of the game. They batting too is now penetrable enough to have a sneak through it.After the retirement of Mr. Cricket it is somewhat become 'orphan' and the injuries of Clark and Watto adding to the worries. It's very surprising to compare the Australia team of now with the team of 8-10 years ago. Anyone who starts to see the Australian team from 2-3 years hard to believe that this is team who has Champion Spinner & Fearsome pace attack. I think Australia missed the trick of developing McGill to fit the shoes of Warne (well somewhat), Doherty is also a good prospect but hardly these guys get chance. Lyon is hardly a spinner. Australia should give more chance to their young breed of domestic cricket for this long tour if they have to built future rather than rotating the known.

  • srikanths on November 12, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    If Johnson can get back his delivery which comes in to right hander, he would be a real therat to the English. He has been bowling 145 plus consistently and was getting back his effective bouncers. Ryan Harris staying injury free plus a tight Johnson could be really good. Of course one has to remember that even in Eng the bowling did quite okay , it was the batting which caused grief to the Aussies, consistently bad.They need Warner to kick the start the campaign ,that requires a luck plus pluck.

  • vvbr on November 12, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    I think, this series will see Aussies regaining the Ashes. There is hunger/purpose in Ryan Harris, Peter Siddle and James Faulkner. Now, that Mitch has joined it will be a very strong bowling attack and what it makes it more dangerous is the fact that they are playing in their own backyard. This Australian team has got that spark what England had before winning Ashes back-to-back but this time I don't see any hunger left in English players to win the ashes back! Ashes is all about - Games of Hunger!

  • 1st_april on November 12, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    @First_Drop @YorkshirePudding i agree with your prospect , i see Matt Prior's injury portending the same fate as did Glenn McGrath's in 2005 Ashes!.... if Harris' fitness creaks ,then we might be in....i still feel England can bat better than Australia , albeit we didn't cross 400 even once in the last series , my suppostion is that Starc/Harris enjoyed English climes more for their bowling , far more than they will in Australia

  • class9ryan on November 12, 2013, 13:59 GMT

    Faulkner could be a valuable addition if included... his wicket taking ability is just so very handy to Australia. Australia don't have as many good batsmen but the truth is apart from Katich all the best batsmen are in this squad. We can't blame the selection panel if there aren't good batsmen around. Australia needs to make likes of Ferguson, Doolan, Burns play in tougher conditions to make them of any status. I think the three mentioned above and Faulkner are the future of Australian cricket and CA have to make sure they continue to do well.

  • Chris_P on November 12, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    @Campbell Sinclair. Warner's test average IN AUSTRALIA is 50, away 25. I don't like the guy, but in Australia, he has delivered & those figures demand selection for tests in Australia. He shouldn't play overseas although I would give him a go in South Africa. I would suggest that with a 50 average for tests in Australia, he has the ability to play in Australia until someone betters his efforts, or his form dips. Overall average doesn't, in this case, paint the real picture.

  • James_Murphy on November 12, 2013, 13:45 GMT

    Head to head on form for the first test I think it looks like this. All players rated out of ten for form and proven ability in Australian conditions. Rogers 7 Warner 8 Watson 7 Clarke 9 Smith 7 Bailey 6 Haddin 6 Johnson 7 Siddle 8 Harris 9 Lyon 5. Overall 79 Cook 8 Carberry 4 Trott 6 Pietersen 8 Bell 9 Root 5 Bairstow 4 Broad 7 Swann 8 Anderson 9 Rankin 4. Overall 72.

    England really miss Bresnan and Prior, need them back quickly or it will be too late. Could be three nil AUS by 3rd test, done and dusted.

  • YorkshirePudding on November 12, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    @First_Drop, Australia only really outplayed england in 2 tests, Old Trafford and the oval, Durham was about honours even especially considering the implosion of the australian batting in the 2nd innings where they needed around 150 with 8 wickets remaining.

    That said im not optimistic about Englands chances this time, I expect a narrow win by Australia, 2-1 or maybe an England draw, the WACA will be the crucial game if the series stands at 1-0 to Aus or 1-1 after the WACA, then england might grab a series victory, at 2-0 or 2-1 to aus then england will struggle to win the series.

  • on November 12, 2013, 13:11 GMT

    @Chris_P Warners has an average of 37. He will never have the ability nor consistency be a long term opener for Aus. He will come in get 50 of 40 balls then get out , never grinds out a massive century. In ODI's he has never lived up to his billing. 2 centuries in 39 ODI's and an average of 29 means he never sticks around either.

  • Rid66479 on November 12, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    What happened to Mitchell Starc, James Pattinson and Pat Cummins?? and where did Ben Hilfenhaus go???????

  • on November 12, 2013, 13:06 GMT

    Warner is one of those players who will get a quick fire 50 then get out. He is not a capable test player who will get a massive century and set Aus up. I wouldn't have him within a mile of the test side

  • First_Drop on November 12, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    @facebook user - the England batsmen, in the last Ashes, played as well as they could against an excellent Aussie attack. Without a regular Ian Bell rescue, England may well have lost the series. As regards 'one way traffic' - I don't see any signs of a ressurgent england, do you? Big question marks hanging over the batting of Carberry, Cook, Root, Trott and Prior, and the bowling of Broad, Rankin, Finn and Tremlett. Still some questions hanging over the Aussie squad as well, but the general consensus amongst my English friends is that Australia outplayed England in the last 3 matches. So, though I like optimism, I don't know where yours is coming from...

  • CricketChat on November 12, 2013, 12:51 GMT

    Good selection. Bailey deserves his chance after stellar performance with bat in Ind and when his confidence high. He might do a Rohit Sharma for the test team.

  • 200ondebut on November 12, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    The bowling line up looks pretty similar to the last time Eng were in Oz - as does England's batting line up. Last time Eng were made to bat twice in only two of the five tests and one of them they got 500 for 1!

    Good luck to the new guys .....you are going to need it.

  • on November 12, 2013, 12:18 GMT

    England were awful in the last home series and still won the series 3-0. A bit of form from the batsmen and it should be one way traffic. Only Clarke can bat and Harris is the only bowler (and he wont last 2 tests let alone 5).

  • on November 12, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    In Test Match Cricket you play the Team, the Environment, the Situation and the Time. TEST.

    It will be raining in Brisbane until 2-days before the test. The pitch will be a green top .... this will not be a OD flat-top but probably a batsman's nightmare. If the rain stops the game could be over before lunch on the 4th day.

    I would not be taking a spinner into the game and I would not be taking Warner and I would not take Watson. My opener would have the capacity to grind out 30-runs in 100balls. I would be taking Cowan and Doolan.

    I would not have Haddin as his batting, not gloves, are weak, and he hasn't played red ball cricket since August. So Harley is in because his form with the bat is solid.

    Rogers, Cowan, Doolan, Clarke, Smith, Faulkner, Hartley, Cutting, Johnson, Siddle, Harris.

    WIN THE TOSS!!

  • YorkshirePudding on November 12, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    Its not a bad looking line up, the top and middle order are starting to look settled, and the only question mark really is over Johnson who wouldnt play if Pattinson wasnt injured.

    It should be an interesting test, especially as brisbane can start to become flat late on day 2 early day 3 and just get flatter.

    The key will be winning the toss to exploit early movement, then bat second to put on a decent score.

  • on November 12, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    Good selection in today's T-20 era.... Mostly looks like a one day squad but in current situation Aussies does not have too much choice..!! Will be interesting to see playing11.... My guess they will play bailey in for smith or may drop siddle for Johnson..!!

  • Chris_P on November 12, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    @milepost. Although Gilchrist represented WA when playing test cricket, he is a NSW lad, first playing for them as a batsman. He moved to WA to be able to keep as NSW had Phil Emery who was also their captain & also a top keeper. Gilly was born & raised from my area, near Lismore. His Dad is a legend in country NSW cricket as a coach.

  • Front-Foot-Sponge on November 12, 2013, 11:33 GMT

    On Bailey, he has a first class average the same as Prior. Based on the reckoning here does that make Prior a poor selection? Sorry to put facts into statements again, no offense meant.

  • Chris_P on November 12, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    @Sachit1979. You ask what ground was Warner was selected? Try having a 50 average on Australian grounds in tests for starters. Try also kicking off the current fc season with 104 & 51no plus his 3 centuries in the Ryobi Cup. Not sure what else he has to do, but of course, this is not good enough for you, is it? As for Fawad, his got creamed in the shield match, positively creamed, he is, simply said, not up to test class, not by a long way, he has to do his time & deliver sustained perfomancews over a season.

  • on November 12, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    Looking forward to seeing if Doolan can score a century or two and knock the door down for selection.

  • thebarmyarmy on November 12, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    Australia seem to have chosen a great team... for an ODI. 4-1 to England!!

  • Front-Foot-Sponge on November 12, 2013, 10:44 GMT

    @greatest_game, excellent analysis. I don't usually read much into stats but you make a compelling case. Besides, it's clear Haddin is our best option and a better player than Prior (who is very good no doubt). Aussies, stop whinging, this is our squad, back them. Bailey is a great inclusion, ODI is still played with a bat and ball right? There are many players in all teams that play the 3 formats, get over it and get behind the lads.

  • Greatest_Game on November 12, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    Those knocking Brad Haddin, think about this: a keepers "average" is his ave dismissals per innings, or D/I. In the records (min 10 tests) Gilchrist is #5, D/I 2.178. Next is, would you believe it, Brad Haddin, D/I 2.106.

    Some names Aussies (& Poms) might recognise are: AB de Villiers, 2.033. Mark Boucher, 1.975. Rod Marsh, 1.950. Ian Healy, 1.763. MS Dhoni, 1.710. Matt Prior, 1.66. Sangakkara, 1.6. Mathew Wade, 1.565.

    Batting averages (when keeping,) are different. de Villiers, 56.17, Gilchrist, 47.60. Prior, 42.36. Sangakkara, 40.48. Dhoni, 39.72. Wade, 34.61. Haddin, 33.97. Boucher, 30.30. Healey, 27.39. Marsh, 26.51.

    Haddin is a better keeper & batsman than Healey or Marsh …or Wade. His batting not his glove work, is his weaker skill.

    P.S. Poms: re that "best batsman/keeper debate," Note that AB is way above Prior in batting & keeping, & shares with Russel the Most Dismissals in a Match record! Prior's record is Most Byes Conceded in an Innings. He is #2, #3 & #10. Oops!

  • on November 12, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    How about dropping warner for doolan? Warner has not done anything to retain his place.

  • KGY27 on November 12, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    Well E. Cummings are you a biased Englishman? This team can only get stronger. What short memories you have. All of those players you mentioned had to start somewhere. Seemed Ryan Harris worked out Root, Cook, Trott, Pietersen and it was Ian Bell a few times who saved the English at home and Swann of course. I think you had better watch out as the Aussies are not as brittle as you think.I don't recall the English bowling coach ever making a test side do you? So as for Saker working us out???? Personally, I hope the Aussies stick it to them. In fact, I think there may well be a corner or two turned. If not this series, it will come and the English shouldn't criticise our old blokes with the likes of Bell, Anderson, Prior, Swann and Pietersen in your side. What goes around comes around!!!! My word people have short memories!!!!

  • davidge on November 12, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    Only 2 decent batsmen and 2 decent bowlers. Is this all the Aussies have???

  • on November 12, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    Can't complain too much with the selections, I guess. Would have preferred Hartley or Paine over Haddin, and I'm not entirely convinced with Johnson; but I hope he proves me wrong.

  • on November 12, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    Much as I disagreed at the time, the Australian selectors were probably right to deny Michael Bevan a long ride in the Test side. Reason? Although he could murder attacks in ODIs, when the field was back, he couldn't do it with three slips, a gully and a fast bowler digging it in short.

    And so with Bailey. How on earth can you pick a Test batsman on the basis of outstanding ODI form? As Ian Chappell has pointed out, his flaws in red-ball cricket have been advertised for the world to see.

    Re Johnson, it's a 'where have all the flowers gone' moment - when will they ever learn?

  • stormy16 on November 12, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Not sure what has happened to Aus's options but this is about the same lot that got hammered in Eng! Yes you cannot just make wholesale changes but I would have invested in a younger batter than Baily whose first class record is average at best and he is on the wrong side of 30 as is Rogers and Haddin. I would only consider these sort of players if they are outstanding and none of the three are.

    I guess it's Johnsons last shot and really it's time he delivered or expect to be forgotten. I somehow don't see Lyon spinning Aus to a win on any Aus wicket so it should be 4 seamers backed up by Smith and for the last time, can we please forget about Watto the bowler. Yes it's hard but the risk is he wont play at all and Aus certainly cannot afford that

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 9:52 GMT

    Jagger for that reason and Australia has 4 right handers in the middle order both left armers will not be playing.

  • Thuram3 on November 12, 2013, 9:47 GMT

    I feel that the Aussies are discarting Phil Hughes a bit too soon. One would think he'd be at least next in line since he's not in the matchday squad. I have no doubbt that this Doolan oke is good but I feel that since Hughes has been there he should be given a proper go...just my opinion.

  • Captainman on November 12, 2013, 9:46 GMT

    Yawn. Another boring Ashes series and despite those back to back ashes there will be another one in England in a year and a half's time. Just proves how unpopular the sport is lool! hardly anyone is going to watching this boring ashes series considering the time zones anyway hehehe....

  • Nerk on November 12, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    Would have rather seen Bailey have a good season in Shield before his baggy green... but his batting in OD matches has been skillful and mature. He may well surprise us and he would not be the worst selection.

    Overall, not a bad line up. Questions about whether the batsmen can score enough runs. Also, the question in my mind is who takes the new ball? Siddle and Johnson love first change. Will Lyon take it with Harris then?

  • brusselslion on November 12, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    Seems that neiither side are any closer to knowing what their best 11 is, than they were prior to the series that has just completed.

    What Mitch will turn up? The one that can run through the best of teams or, the one who will give Haddin an all-day workout and, possibly, put the slips' lives in danger?

    As ever, the Ashes should be interesting.

  • Mary_786 on November 12, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    BigMaxywalker i think we are lucky to have 2 good spinners in Lyon and SOK

  • Cyril_Knight on November 12, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    Lehmann promisied big changes; bringing back Johnson, who England almost destroyed as a cricketer, last time and one batter in George Bailey; doesn't equal massive changes. Dropping the useless Hughes and Khawaja shows intent though.

    England will be very happy, they beat nine of the XI easily, without playing anywhere near their best. They are not scared of Johnson and I'm sure many of the batsmen will be quite excited about facing him, and he ended the ODIs in India bowling to the left and right again . Bailey is in form, but those pitches were so very flat and the Indian seamers quite pathetic. Saker will work him out.

    The question now is; have the Australian players improved enough in three months to challenge England? Lehmann believes so, but there's no cricketing evidence to confirm this.

  • Lmaotsetung on November 12, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    So the future of Aussie cricket is Warner/Smith/Faulkner?

  • on November 12, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    it is good combination because bailey in prime form and hope to help to oz to win ashes

  • Thefakebook on November 12, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    I think this is a good squad my only concern is if Watson pulls another hamie then that's it for him (as far as the Ashes go anyway)so it would have been smart to include Alex anyhow.Select a 13 man squad for carrying out loud then on the eve of 1st Test go with your best 11.I wonder about the curious case of Fawad Ahmed?

  • o-bomb on November 12, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    I've seen Bailey bat a few times in ODIs recently and I've been impressed every time by his technique and his patience as much as anything else. He has the ability to build an innings which seems to be lacking in a lot of younger players at the moment. I was surprised when I saw how bad his 1st class average is over the last year. It'll eb interesting to see how he goes.

  • on November 12, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    The mighty Australia is struggling there are no young batsmen that are insight . Remember this is the land of the Bradmans, rge Chappels, the Waughs, the Pointings, The Taylors etc all great batsmen for Australia in the past. Imagine an old man like Rogers at 36 with 3 Test matches and not even a stable spinner from the land of Shane Warne. The West Indies have company

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 9:05 GMT

    Big_Maxy_Walker; Lyon is a brilliant fielder I doubt O keefe is better.

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 9:03 GMT

    Big_Maxy_Walker; I actually agree with you on the Indian situation, I would have prefered O Keefe to Doherty. However, I think Lyon is doing a really good job, neither of them are world beaters but Im happy with the role Lyon plays in the team.

  • Jagger on November 12, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    So with the inclusion of two left arm pacemen, we can be certain there will be a great patch of deep rough generated outside off stump for the right hander. Note that the inclusion, George Bailey, is a right hander.

    I'll back Swann to use it better than Lyon will.

    Try explaining to a casual watcher it wasn't the English who picked our Australian squad.

  • ajmaldomintesswann on November 12, 2013, 8:59 GMT

    Excellent team selection..One thing people didnot notice is that there are less left handers in this team,may be its tactic to negate swann who is exceptional against left handers.Bailey selection will be a masterpiece because he knows how to bat with tail and he can make crucial runs in the end.He is another hussey for australia,though not much in talent but in devotion and determination.I think series will decide in Brisbane and MCG.because england will win at sydney and adelaid and australia will cruise in WACA...I will like to see Faulkner instead watson as faulkner is a full bowler and very handy with bat too .GO aussies GO.We pakistanis are with you as always

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 8:59 GMT

    Meety; I would be very happy if we didnt find out and just saw him push our advantage. I reckon he is a determined cricketer whether he will make it I dont know.

  • kkk999 on November 12, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    my 11 for the first ashes test:- 1)warner 2)rogers 3)clarke 4)watson 5)bailey 6)smith 7)haddin 8)johnson 9)lyon 10)harris 11)siddle...12)faulkner though onjohnson and faulkner but id certainly go for experience in the first test..

  • Charlie101 on November 12, 2013, 8:43 GMT

    It makes sense to play Bailey at 6 for a number of reasons

    1. He is in form

    2. He is a possible next test captain of Australia because if Clarke loses 2 Ashes series in a row the media will call for his head , epsecially with the recent book revelations from Ponting and Warne's comments.

    Bailey looks an excellent player and a good leader of men

  • Sachit1979 on November 12, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    Where is highly talked about and most awaited Fawad Ahmed and on what grounds David Warner got selected in the squad? I guess either of Watson or Faulkner should take fifth bowler's slot in the team.

  • on November 12, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    This Aussie bowling attack (with the exception of Hilfenhaus) is nearly exactly the same as the one England destroyed on their last tour here. If the Australian team was picked on form in first class cricket the team should be something along these lines-- Rogers, Warner, Doolan, Clarke, Smith, Lynn, Hartley (wk), Siddle, Harris, Sayers, O Keefe, Faulkner(12th man)

  • Front-Foot-Sponge on November 12, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    Top squad, it matters little what the knockers say, especially the pathological misgivings of a few serial pests, this is our team. Aussies let's unite behind them, they can beat England who are themselves seemingly searching under rocks for their best 11.

  • Naresh28 on November 12, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    @hhillbumper - From Indian fans we want to see Oz win. They deserve to rise again after poor performances. You have home advantage and this is the best shot. I like the inclusion of Bailey - he needs to prove himself that he is not just the one day player. A future captain? Kawaji and Maddinson are fringe players who could also get a look in. Starke and Pattison are missing - injured?

  • milepost on November 12, 2013, 8:19 GMT

    Derogatory and inflammatory comments really will look stupid soon. Bailey is a good selection, some might find he's the leading run scorer in 50 over cricket this year (that's international cricket for those that don't follow cricket) if they looked. An average of 18 is more like Prior's form in the last 12 months. Apologies if facts upset anyone.

  • on November 12, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Finally bailey given the chance , expecting an australian win ....

  • on November 12, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    Welcom back 2 team warner

  • willsrustynuts on November 12, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    Have a good look at this squad selection and tell me that it is different from the teams that came before... you know the teams that the fans and selectors thought not good enough to win. This is England selection process circa 1995.

  • Iloveasunburntcountry on November 12, 2013, 8:08 GMT

    Front foot lunge......I have been silently enjoying your comments for ages and appreciate the kind words towards our Aussie team.

    On the selections, I believe this is the best team possible (although,I am a long way from a Mitchell Johnson supporter) given the state of our fast bowling stocks.

    The inclusion of bailey seems logical, with the selectors hopefully having an eye on Lynn, Doolan, kawahja and I know I will get lambasted for this, maxwell (can't take the Victorian out of the boy).

  • on November 12, 2013, 8:05 GMT

    Its remain to be seen that Selectors can take pressure off the players and stick with the same combination no matter what happen in first match or two,unless of-course a player is injured or go for a second spinner if wicket is expected to spin furiously.Selectors have a big role to play and sustain pressure from media,social media and ex players etc. in the event of initial upset and stick with same set of players for whole series.

  • on November 12, 2013, 8:02 GMT

    Seriously Aus is running short of options. Aus need to find someone with a serious good technique to bat at no. 3 hughes, khwaza & cowan r definitely better test players but they have failed again & again. Watson as such is not the best option at 3. Try steve smith at 3 & put watson at 6 after clarke & bailey. it will be interesting to see who will be the 12th man. Siddle/Johnson/Lyon/faulkner/harris. cant guess right now

  • VivGilchrist on November 12, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    @shaggy076, what are you talking about? How is Lyons Test record like OKeefes FC record? Let's face it, the only reason why Lyon, Beer, Agar, and Doherty have been chosen over OKeefe is that someone in power does not like him. His FC record SMASHES all the others. No logical reason.....

  • hhillbumper on November 12, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    5-0 to aaaaaus then.The greatest BOWLING ATTACK EVER will be in full flow.Poor England with their slow attack and no young talent.Shall we leave you the urn now and just save our blushes

  • on November 12, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    Bailey deserves a chance in this format as well.....he is inform and currently scoring runs. There are no technical reason as well to keep him out of test cricket.

    Nathon lyon i dont think will be giving any tough time to England as they have played world class spinners lately in Asian pitches and UAE

    Australia really need to find a world class spinner as soon as possible

  • xtrafalgarx on November 12, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    @David O'Brien. Typical rambling, Warner has opened in how many tests now? He was only tried at six for one innings then opened in the last 3....Not sure what you are on about. Watto, if you havn't noticed has now been batting at 3 at every opportunity he gets even in ODI's and T20's, not sure what you are on about there either.

    The O'keefe train, he didn't "outbowl" lyon, he only got 1 wicket more, 1 of which was Aaron "walking wicket" Finch who shouldered arms to a straight ball and bagged a king pair! Hardly classy bowling, he just darts them in and even if picked he won't do anything significantly better than Lyon. Lyon is way more experienced than any other spinner in the country now, bar Hauritz, but even he played less tests.

  • latecut_04 on November 12, 2013, 7:49 GMT

    Batting may not cause THAT many issues for Aus this time ,prime reason being the venues.Eng have a balanced bowling attack but pace bowling is Aus strength and if you come up with fast,bouncy decks Aus could come up victorious.They won even last time on the fastest track(Perth).Playing Lyon for the sake of variety or playing a spinner doesn't help if he wont cause trouble to Eng batsmen.This is especially valid since you have the likes of Faulkner and Watto in the side(for bowling variety.)Eng is a far more settled side but the likes of Bailey are lucky they are making debut at home(IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.)but all those runs he made in India was against a mediocre bowling attack on small grounds against 2 new WHITE balls within 50 overs.(not to mention the lack of bounce on the pitches.)But hes worth a gamble.atleast Doolan should have been named as a cover.Have been hearing that name for a while.Also there was a certain SteveOKefe Aus supporters mentioned a lot in the past.whers he..

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on November 12, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    @Shaggy. Regarding O'Keefe. Steve has been the best shield spinner of the last 3 years and outbowled Lyon in the last 2 straight shield games. His shield record is much better than Lyon's record in first class and tests. He is also a much better batsmen and fielder. Plus the added bonus of being a left armer which definitely helps against the English lineup with all the right handed batsmen. O'Keefe definitely should have partnered Lyon in India. Certainly would have done better than Doherty and Maxwell. Having said that, Lyon has the runs on the board and I would pick him for Brisbane just because he has the test experience. I would play both spinners in Sydney and if Lyon is struggling by the third or fourth test, O'Keefe get his go

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 12, 2013, 7:48 GMT

    With a batting average of 18, Bailey fits well into this team. The only problem is with Clarke: His long-known fall out with Clarke that may (or have may not!) kept him out of the test side for all this time, may really start to show when England are 300-2 and the only trick Clarke can pull is to try and distract the batsmen with his trampoline act. It's going to be quite a series, I just hope all fans are present at the end to see it. We all remember what happened last time in Aus, where not a yellow shirted fan could be found within 10, 000 of a cricket stadium.

  • dunger.bob on November 12, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    I don't like Watson as a specialist batsman so I hope he can bowl. .. Surely Bailey will be in the 11. They wouldn't go in with Haddin at 6 would they? I wouldn't be surprised if Lyon is 12th man but I think Faulkner is more likely to be doing the drinks.

    I've got to say that naming the squad so far out takes a bit of the fun out of it for we fans. All we've got left to argue about is who the 12th man is going to be. .. Still, it's done now and it's probably great for the team to have a long lead in with all seats taken. I wonder if it helps England out too.

    @ latecut_04: Yes. Cummins, Pattinson, Bird all injured. Along with Hazlewood and Bollinger and probably some others I've forgotten.

    @Sir_Harry_Flashman: Many people are saying Johnson has matured a lot in the last year or so. I hope they're right.

    @ Peter Richer: "A splendid blend of relying on Clarke and depending on Harris." I have to give it to you, that's a great one liner.

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on November 12, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    Insane to keep picking the same players and expect to win Ashes. My team would be: Rogers(maturity and proper batsmen) Cosgrove(versatile batsmen, knows English attack well from county cricket, proper batsmen) Watson(hopefully not injured seriously) Doolan(good form and some youth, proper batsmen) Clarke(looks troubled by Broad, hopefully back is ok for series) Smith(very good form which hopefully holds, only future captain material here) Hartley(best keeper of the last 3 or 4 seasons in shield. Most importantly, doesn't throw wicket away, and can catch) Faulkner(jack of all trades needed as Watson will not likely bowl, more reliable than Johnson) Siddle(hopefully is fit and raring to go) Harris(same as above) Lyon(has to flight the ball more, take his time and not go defensive too quickly)

    With Cutting, Bailey, Johnson(used in Perth), Paine, and O'Keefe(outbowled Lyon in two straight shield games and has a much superior first class record than Lyon, play him in Sydney) in the squad

  • Fan1969 on November 12, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    Good team selection. I think this one will go 2-2.

    Aussies have a good pace attack and with a bit of batting support I see the turn around soon.

    Should be great watching.

  • Chris_P on November 12, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    @Meety, good to see you back & about. As usual, I am off to day 1 & 2 of the Gabba test in my annual jaunt there. My own season has kicked off well, still to get out! Pretty much the exact side I thought they would pick. Not my preference, MJ makes me very nervous, Bailey, while looking good with a solid technique, & I really wish him well is probably not the future the way Doolan is. Warner has the track record at home, probably Faulkner will be 12th. Don't like Watson being there, but obviously first class form is not a major consideration nowadays.

  • winner2008 on November 12, 2013, 7:35 GMT

    I hated Aussie teams in the past primarly due to their antics despite their talent . Now they seem to have completely changed. And now I really like the behavior and attitudes of Baily and Faulkner.Being an Indian, I had supported England in last ashes. Possibly I will be in a neutral mood or support australia in coming ashes and also I would pray for Baily,Faulkner,warner and Smith to perform well. They performed very well against India in Indian conditions. I feel that Australians should stop sledging as they have more than enough talent to win a cricket match. Best of luck!

  • taslu613 on November 12, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    I am really hopeful that recent form of Bailey will add value to Autralian Batting line up.May be England have the good form of late in test matches but there no reason to look Autralians as underdog.Their recent performance in india in ODI was outstanding.I am sure,this ashes series will be highly contested one.its difficult to pick a winner right now but England have slight edge on Australians.

  • on November 12, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    I don't think there's much evidence that they have any real idea who should bat where. Before the Ashes it was decided that Watson was an opener again, and Warner was a 6. That lasted how long? They're pretty much just chopping and changing and seeing what sticks. If Warner were still considered a #6 then nobody would have been talking about the 6 spot, and they would have been looking at Phil Hughes, Alex Doolan, Mark Cosgrove or Ed Cowan to either open with Rogers or come in at 3.

    I don't want to be negative, but picking Bailey over so many players with top shelf first class records and in recent times? And SOK not even in the running despite outbowling Lyon in every innings they've played for NSW so far?

  • xtrafalgarx on November 12, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    @Amith_S: I know you love Khawaja, but he just may not be good enough for test cricket. Since his debut in 2010/11, he hasn't improved one little bit, if anything, he's got worse! He was weak against spin back then, 3 years later Swann still toys with him. He was weak against the ball just outside off like most people but he seems to knick off more than mose. His FC average has plummeted from the 50's to the low fourties and soon to be in the 30's.

    He has never looked like a test player after his first innings and he just isn't consistent enough. I hope he proves me wrong but he is a long way yet from the test team.

  • GeoffreysMother on November 12, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    Though, if Johnson proves he can perform over a five day high pressure test, I think this is Australia's best squad, it is interesting to see how much the selection philosophy has changed. Gone is the Arthurian 'fine crop of cricketers that were to be Australia's future' - Hughes, Khawaja, Wade and the bowlers (if Johnson bowls well it would suggest none of the young bowlers would get in the side even if fit). In their place is a pragmatic collection of 30 somethings with a remodelled Smith and Johnson. Only Warner remains and he still has much to prove. Rogers and Haddin are the right choice but might , at their age, struggle more on fast Australian wickets than on the slow ones in England (where experience was crucial). Subtle changes to the balance of both teams mean that this will be much more than a simple repeat of the last (English) summer.

  • Sir_Ivor on November 12, 2013, 7:23 GMT

    I am absolutely thrilled to know that George Bailey has made it. I wish him the very best in his Ashes debut. He did well in the ODIs against England and I think he would have derived a lot of confidence from his success in England and later India to do well in his latest challenge. I hope he turns into the next Mr Cricket for Australia. Michael Hussey also made his debut rather late but when he did, he made it memorable. Doolan should get his chance soon enough I think. The media seems carried away by Ashton Agar's intellectual background and rockstar looks. He should stick to academics. His CV will certainly look impressive if he mentions that he played cricket for Australia there ! But jokes apart, he will never make it.I expect Australia to win since they are playing in Australia and rain will not be a factor. I hope we have a well fought Ashes though. Like the last one was. When Broad's controversial not out,the rains and the umpiring made a difference.

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 7:20 GMT

    Do we bring Feldman and Hastings in for Harris and Siddle or perhaps these bowlers benefited from the test quality bowler from the other end.

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    It's time for a dose of reality to the O Keefe supporters, who are sounding more and more like the Khawaja supporters every day. O Keefe granted a good player but to say he will potentially bowl us to victory is absurb, he is a tidy bowler in much the same respect Lyon is. I must admit I havent seen O Keefe in any red ball cricket but from white ball cricket he doesnt have much flight or turn. He has found himself on the outer of the NSW team when Hauritz was playing for NSW. His shield record is similar to Lyons test record. As for outbowling Lyon in the shield games, the figures look pretty identical to me and NSW has used Lyon in the role of bowling a lot of overs, prefered over O Keefe. Since we are about to go into the test match with only 4 bowlers i would suggest Lyon is a lot better at bowling the 30 over a day role than O Keefe. also noticed Feldman "outbowled" Harris and Hastings "outbowled" Siddle in recent shield games. TBC

  • milepost on November 12, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    @Meety, correct me if I'm wrong but I though Gilly was a WA player, not NSW? This is the best team. It's good that there is debate about selection, it means there are alternatives. I really don't feel England have a plan B and it's not just wishful thinking. Carberry looks good but is unproven, Trott and Cook had lean Ashes, Prior is out of form and injured, Root won't magically not be susceptible to the same modes of dismissal if he moves and the 3rd seamer spot is undecided with no one knocking the door down. Look I'm not knocking England, they did a number on us last series and fair play but this looks a good opportunity to give them a run for their money on our home turf. I just want thrilling cricket and no DRS controversy!

  • Meety on November 12, 2013, 7:13 GMT

    @Shaggy076 on (November 12, 2013, 3:59 GMT) - I hope to be proven wrong, but can Bailey tough it out? The one thing in Bailey's favour - is that it is unlikely any of the Pommy bowlers will be as hostile as Harris was the other day on a flat track - but the Gabba should have a bit in it early. So I am not sure. The only thing that makes me want to select Bailey ahead of Doolan, is that Bailey is more likely to handle the pressure of a first Ashes Test on Debut better than Doolan. @BradmanBestEver on (November 12, 2013, 3:28 GMT) - who knows with SO'K, but whilst I am a fan of Lynn - his form last year was ordinary. He needs a FULL Shield season with preferably a min of 2 tons, to get into calculations. I would choose Burns ahead of Lynn any day of the week.

  • ravi_hari on November 12, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    At the end of away Ashes question marks were raised on quite a few players. Warner, Watson, Smith, Haddin, Falukner, etc. Everyone was looking at Shield games to find an answer. Warner and Smith gave fitting replies with their bats. Warner in particular has been in murderous form. Smith also contributed consistantly. Haddin did not do much, but being the senior pro needs to be persisted with for the time being as comeptition has not hotted up for the spot. Watson and Faulkner did very well in India re-emphasising their importance to the team as all rounders. So the selectors' job was pretty simple. Fill the 12th man in the squad and replace Starc. Jhonson is bowling at his best so should be used when he is hot. If he fails at the Gabba that would be the end of it. The last selection is of Bailey. If we see all the innings Bailey played in India, they were of quality batsmanship. He did not throw his bat but gathered methodically. That went in his favour. He could be the man for No.6.

  • featurewriter on November 12, 2013, 7:05 GMT

    Meety: All-time catching record for Haddin? One test match doesn't make a career. I her what you're saying though. I think we're about to do to Hartley what we did to Wade Seccombe. He is way too good a keeper to not play test cricket. That said, I think the test lineup looks good - and we have some good players in good form waiting for a chance: Doolan, Lynn, White, Cutting, Ahmed, even Eddie Cowan is back in touch.

  • mukundnarayan on November 12, 2013, 6:57 GMT

    Faulkner is performing consistently and Watson is not. Banking on potential and previous records won't give you a test win. If Clarke was sensible he would drop Watson and give Faulkner a chance. After all Faulkner has the "uncanny ability to have an impact on almost every game he plays".

  • smudgeon on November 12, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    scarab666, you'll find that while Faulkner has made a name for himself recently in ODIs and the IPL, he is far from a short-form specialist. His domestic first class record is excellent - he put in a fine performance in last year's Shield final (player of the match, no less), averages 22 with the ball and just under 30 with the bat. Add to this a fairly good debut Test in England, and I think we can safely put the idea of him being a short-form specialist to bed. Just saying.

  • ShutTheGate on November 12, 2013, 6:49 GMT

    Only 9 more sleeps, I can't wait.

    The back to back ashes really builds intensity. I imagine that the players are getting nervous. We might see a first over like Harmison in Brisbane during the 06/07 season.

  • on November 12, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    Delighted to see Bailey's selection.

    Unrealistic; but let me give my choice. Replace disruptive Clarke with unifier Bailey, for Captaincy. If Clarke has to be in for his excellent batting skills against both pace & spin; the No 4 & No 5 slots are a tossup between Bailey & Clarke.

    Watto, if fit & in, should go one down, to get the full mileage out of him. Down the line, if quick runs are needed, Faulkner is the right there. Watto is a good hitter against pace; but Faulkner, if he is sure about the Captain's faith in him, is a good hitter against both pace & spin.

    Overall, good selection. Guess, Haddin has to keep, until OZ finds a credible young alternative WK-batsman for the future. Do you have anyone other than Wade or Paine?

  • TEST_CRICKET_ONLY on November 12, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    Any test team that contains Lyon, Watson, Johnson & Bailey is second rate. Just give the Poms the Ashes again and move on.

  • millsy24 on November 12, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    latecut_04 All of those you have mentioned are out injured with stress fractures. Not sure when Bird will be back, Pattinson is possibly going to be back by the 3rd or 4th test, Starc will hopefully resume in the Big Bash after Christmas. Cummins will take longer more than likely. He is only 20 and can unfortunately expect to get these types of injuries for the next 3 or so years.

  • RDLikesCricket on November 12, 2013, 6:32 GMT

    Happy to see Bailey in the Test Team. Hope for his sake he makes a good impact with the opportunities he gets. Positive statement by the Aussie camp by naming their 12. Will England play Carberry as an opener? Or will it be young Root to partner Cook? Interesting test series on offer... as a neutral fan of Cricket... im excited to see the Ashes... backing Australia to win...

  • Mr.CricketJKNotHussey on November 12, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    @MohammedPadela Chris Rogers while old, is a proven player at the first class level. He has a higher FC and Test avg. than Hughes. Plus he knows the English bowlers well since he played there for most of his career. He is old, but he was only brought on for this double Ashes series, so he should be utilized. He also brings stability to the side with his experience, something Hughes can't just yet.

    Ashton Agar had a fantastic debut (with the bat) and while he is certainly a prospect for the future, he is too young right now. His bowling is not upto the mark yet, as he only took two wickets against England. Lyon is having a decent run so it makes sense to pick him, but he could have Fawad Ahmed or Steve O'Keefe as back up if required.

  • Meety on November 12, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    @CameronHunt on (November 12, 2013, 3:05 GMT) - Hartley has been the best Keeper in Shield cricket for 5yrs or even more, but you said "..wicket keeper batsmen .." - which implies a Keeping allrounder. That he is not. His batting has improved with a gritty tenacity & I would of loved for him to have been given a shot at the Keeping duties at National Level. The last 2 Keepers from NSW to play for Oz were Gilchrest (All Time Great) & Haddin (All Time Catching Record).

  • hotcric01 on November 12, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    I don't see any real test standard batsman in this squad apart from clarke and rojers.Neither steven smith nor george bailey is suitable for a position upper than no.06 in a test batting line up.They should pick doolen as a long term no.03 .Making runs in flat pitches in india in odi format doesn't guarantee a place in a test batting line up especially in a lively pitch like Brisbane gabba.Same is true for faulkner.I don't think he is a test no.07 batsman.Bowling attack is decent enough to take 20 wickets.

  • milepost on November 12, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    Good selections. I think the only remaining question is who will they leave out? Faulkner or Lyon I think. If Watson isn't fit he shouldn't play. I suspect Copeland and Doolan weren't far off. This is a very long batting lineup too, arguably Lyon is the only player that can't and even he can play an Anderson-like role with the bat. OK some England supporters might argue it's a very long tail :-) but let's see what the cricket brings!

  • Sachin_The_Greatest on November 12, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    As a neutral, & a fan of how Australia played their cricket, i think this is a good team which can give a fight to Eng in the ashes.

    i would have def. liked to see Simon Katich in the teams ( as i last heard he ws scoring runs) & the enthusiasm which he has shown after a fiasco, got to give it to the guy.

    Lets hope that we get a better test series this time around

  • on November 12, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    much expected squad ............ cant name a better squad when u consider the experience of players ..... i am really excited ... but i fear australian bowling will let the team down than batting ..... Bailey must prove his ability like rohit sharma ....

  • Maelstromoracle on November 12, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    Even though I'm not a huge fan of ODI form being used to select for tests, I do concede that Bailey has got a good temperament for the longer game. I remember when he was picked for T20's and everyone whined about him not being a short format player and that he's better suited to the longer format. He obviously found his way and adjusted his game to suit. Hopefully he can master it in reverse.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge. on November 12, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    Well I'll be - Australia have picked a reasonable side here.

    As a proud Englishman I'm always, in equal parts, delighted and alarmed when Johnson is picked to play us. We've got the run of results over him, this much is true, but he struck fear into the eyes and hearts of all he bowled to in our recently lost series to Aus in the ODI's. Latest and fullest goes to him.

    Lyon is no Swann, this much is also very true. I wonder what that kid I've heard about (is it O'Keefe?) has to do to get a run?

    I think we'll still take the series here, but I must admit that this is very much a step in the right direction for the Australian side.

    Looks like Cook and Carberry will open, I'm thrilled by this. I hope Cook can be a bit more multi-dimensional in his captaincy though, despite the pains it inflicts upon me I must admit he's very dull, drear and sedate.

    Prior's been terrible lately, and Bairstow has had some stick in the media, so either way I'm concerned there.

    C'mon ENGLAND.

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    I'm pretty sure it has already been decided that Faulkner will be the 12th man no matter what. There is no chance of not playing Lyon particularly if Watson is a risk then we need a spinner to bowl 30+ tidy overs in a day. Even Harris comments the other day about no issue going in with 4 bowlers which means the bowlers have been briefed and Watson will be playing as a batsman only who may give 7-8 overs a day.

  • on November 12, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    good decision. i see no reason as to why he cant excel at the test arena. lot of player in contemporary cricket started their career in odi and went on to become a solid test player. when he has good shots up his sleeves and a good cool head on his shoulders he can. one of the few gentleman in contemporary cricket and he has become one of my fav. better then the younger hussey in all respect. good luck to him for his success in the ashes. all the best to the aussies. come'on pull this up.. cheers (from an indian fan). go and demolish the english and the barmy army...

  • Sachin_The_Greatest on November 12, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    Posted by millsy24 on (November 12, 2013, 4:24 GMT)

    while i do agree that clark is def. a best batsman Australians have ? but it is not necessary that your best batsman will definitely be your best captain.

    look at all the sides in world cricket, SA - Smith, B B - Kallis Ind - Dhoni, BB - Kohli Eng - Cook BB - Peterson (IMO)

    even steve Waugh was hardly a best batsman in his time but he was damn good captain & a leader.

    mate you can't suspend your players for non performance of a task? although i do agree that players failed but you want your team to be a family so that each one enjoy other's success , you don't want your team in which captain is a master & others have to follow whatever he says.

    It may not be his idea to suspend but he could have def. raised his voice against it.

  • venkatesh018 on November 12, 2013, 5:49 GMT

    So its a shoot out between Faulkner and Watson for the final spot.

  • scarab666 on November 12, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    This test side will not win the Ashes back, again we are selecting on ODI form for most players…..yet we are playing test match cricket. Mitch Johnson's test career is over lets move on from him, Watson is not a test player either his record speaks for itself plus he's injured and this is a 5 day game not a ODI. Faulkner is a short game specialist not test match. Warner ?????? 3 x ODI tons does not mean 'a test opener' . Alex Doolan deserves a shot, Silk and Maddinson are to immature yet.

  • on November 12, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    Good to see Baily in test squad!!! Hope to see some exciting innings from Ausies..

  • cric4evr on November 12, 2013, 5:45 GMT

    1st of all i would like to congratulate bailey for being selected in ashes squad..his 1st class average over the yrs: 2004-05 (Australia) 5 match 23.12 2005-06 (Australia) 10 match 43.22 2006-07 (Australia) 11 match 36.82 2007-08 (Australia) 10 match 43.17 2008-09 (Australia) 10 match 37.38 2008-09 (India) 2 match 38.00 2009 (Australia) 1 match 3.50 2009-10 (Australia) 10 match 43.64 2010 (Australia) 2 match 130.00 2010-11 (Australia) 11 match 30.43 2011-12 (Australia) 9 match 55.69 2012 (England) 2 match 31.25 2012-13 (Australia) 8 match18.28 2013 (England) 5 match 37.57 2013-14 (Australia) 1 match 37.50 nt the average that opponent would fear bt every alternate season he averages 40+...yes he only averaged 18 last season so hopefully he rises to the occasion as in odi...good luck mate...

  • PrasPunter on November 12, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    I dont take the ODI runs for consideration - given all the fielding restrictions, flat tracks, 2 new balls , short boundaries and all that stuff. However, wish Bails has in him to rise to the occasion. Good Luck to him ! And truck-loads of wishes to the Aus team !! Go get it !!!

  • GSB_Plow on November 12, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    CORRECTION : This Australian team looks a much much balanced team than the teams which toured England and India in 2013 (which was mentioned by mistake as 2012 in previous comment). George Bailey, whom I saw batting with confidence and situational awareness of the match in recent ODI series in India will do lot of good in the middle order and provide much needed stability to the Australian squad along with Steve Smith, another bright prospect and Brad Haddin. With balanced middle order, guys like Warner and Watson could have enough breathing space to attack the opponent bowlers at the top. Hope Johnson lives up to his reputation which he has gained during past 4-5 months. Good Luck to Australia! Regards, GSB (Pind Plow,Patti,Tarn Taran)

  • ShutTheGate on November 12, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    @ Peter Richer

    MJ bowled reasonably last summer against South Africa. But apparently he's changed his run up and we should expect to see more consistency now.

    I'm not sure if your opinion on our reliance on Clarke is fair. Watson scored more runs than Clarke last ashes and Rogers and Smith were only 30-40 runs behind Clarke in the series. I'd suggest that that is fairly balanced.

    The Australians achilles heel is their tendency to collapse or miss important opportunities in the match, which is why I think George Bailey has been included.

    Anyway the our inexperienced players are gaining momentum the more they play and I'm looking forward to some matches going right down to the wire on the 5th day.

  • VivGilchrist on November 12, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    If Johnson plays it has to be as the fourth seamer. He is just too loose and will undo all the good work of Harris and Siddle. You need the insurance of Faulkner now that Watto can't bowl. If the Gabba looks like a road, I say play 5 bowlers as Faulkner and Johnson ( once he passes 10) are more than handy at 7 and 8. Let's remember, Australia have to WIN the series while the English/Irish/Southern Africans only need to draw.

  • on November 12, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    aus always used to win in the past due to its pace battery and good spin bowling which is not there for the last 5 years, so they are losing, even they lose in their home ground. so what i suggest , search and bring in very fast bowler form the domestic side. i can see this ashes aus as victorious, as England is falling down gradually.

  • Paul_Rampley on November 12, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    @Amith_s is spot on, we need to stop putting players down and lets support the team that's been chosen. I also would have like to see a guy like Khawaja included as cover for Watson if he is unable to bat but he must be coming along well and that's good to see. Our incumbent batsman need to keep scoring in sheild as there will be opportunities in a 5 test series for other players as well. Lets go Pup, we can do it.

  • hycIass on November 12, 2013, 5:22 GMT

    Amith couldn't agree with you more. No surprises here. Looks a decent team, 5 batsmen with Watson as the all-rounder (I'm sure he'l bowl), one swing bowler, one hit the deck bowler, one left arm tear away (never much fun to face) and a spinner. Good balanced line up. I have my doubts on Bailey as i think guys who haven't succeeded at shield won't in test cricket but i would love to heat humble pie. Guys like Marsh and Khawaja will get a chance in this series as long as they keep scoring in shield because the English quicks will expose those batsman who can't play pace bowling at test level. Khawaja plays pace well but needs to be shown faith. Cutting was one i would have bought in but i am happy for Johnson to be given the first bowl. Bring on the Gabba. I have my tickets.

  • wellrounded87 on November 12, 2013, 5:21 GMT

    Disappointing to see Cutting, Doolan, Lynn, Hartley, Paine and Lynn overlooked.

    Bailey is a huge gamble, hopefully it pays off. ODI runs don't necessarily translate to test runs, Michael Bevan was the perfect example of this as are Chris Gayle and MS Dhoni. The bowling is different, the fields are different, the ball is different and the pitches are different. Like picking a marathon runner based on his sprint times. MJ is also a gamble, he's always been solid in ODI's but does he have the temperment and consistency to perform at test level? Sure if he can swing the ball he's going to be a weapon, but if it doesn't swing then what? We get a repeat of the 10/11 ashes minus the perth test?

    Our persistence with Haddin is a complete and utter joke. Both Paine and Hartley are far better glovemen and bats. But then again Haddin is from NSW...

  • Bonehead_maz on November 12, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    @ Peter Richer. Not out of line at all. All we Aussies think the same and like the risk because we are playing a better side. Jonson played in the 2 most recent Tests played in Australia. He took 9/170 and caused 3 retired hurt. Breaking Sangakarra's hand leaves only Cook among top left-handers not put out by Johnson for several weeks. See we why like the gamble ? One ball in Brisbane could tilt the whole series.

  • Mary_786 on November 12, 2013, 5:12 GMT

    Well said Amith, lets get behind our boys

  • Mary_786 on November 12, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    I don't think there are any surprises here but i am still not convinced ODI form will translate into test cricket. There are some encouraging signs in shield, Silk is one i like the look of ..maybe Maddison and also Joe Burns..we need to develop 5 day players who are not impacted by T20 or ODI..some old school orthodox bastmen that have good footwork good technique and value their wicket hare to get out for the top order...Smith has done well to working at his batting still only 23 and under rated leggie. Khawaja is among my favorites and i hope he translates his Ryobi form into shield cricket in the coming weeks as he is a great player of pace and someone we can do with in the ashes as England possess a very good pace attack. For Johnson I think the best chance of him turning up to play is if he understands that he's not the pack leader and he doesn't have to talk himself up. Try and take as much pressure off him as possible. Harris is the pack leader. Also Cutting was unlucky.

  • Ozcricketwriter on November 12, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    Given it is in Brisbane, I think that Nathan Lyon will be the one to miss out. Out of the 12 players listed here, Lyon is the one in the worst form. I would be absurdly harsh to dump Faulkner after a very solid debut and a dream run in the ODI series, which followed a fantastic FC season last year, and a great FC record overall. If Lyon isn't the one to miss out, I think that Johnson has to be the one to go.

  • GSB_Plow on November 12, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    This Australian team looks a much much balanced team than the teams which toured England and India in 2012. George Bailey, whom I saw batting with confidence and situational awareness of the match in recent ODI series in India will do lot of good in the middle order and provide much needed stability to the Australian squad along with Steve Smith, another bright prospect and Brad Haddin. With balanced middle order, guys like Warner and Watson could have enough breathing space to attack the opponent bowlers at the top. Hope Johnson lives up to his reputation which he has gained during past 4-5 months. Good Luck to Australia! Regards, GSB (Pind Plow,Patti,Tarn Taran)

  • Tongariro on November 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    Only 1 batsman (Clarke) in the top 7 with a test average of over 40. Says a lot. Bailey deservers a go but his first class average is not great at 38.28. Will he show the others up?

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    I am English and am very much looking forward to the coming series. I anticipate it being closely contested, however do not believe that Australia currently have a side that can win test matches.

    Firstly, the move to include Mitchell Johnson is a brave one. His white ball form has been excellent, nobody can argue. But I honestly cannot remember the last time he performed consistently well in red ball cricket. Good luck to him, but I can't help but feel Cook et al. will feast upon his average ball (short and wide).

    On the theme of one day cricketers, I think that George Bailey is a very much deserved test debutant. His level of success in International one day cricket suggests he has every chance of adapting to test cricket. I accept he has not had the expected level of success in first class cricket, but he was one of the guys that English supporters were hoping didn't get picked. Stick with the distinctly average Khwaja or pick Doolan. Please.

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:51 GMT

    I love the people suggesting Fawad Ahmed is better than Lyon. Smith and Warner tore Ahmed apart last weekend. I think this is a reasonable side. Doolan, Cutting and O'Keefe would be the next in line if injuries occur in their respective disciplines. As for the next keeper, who knows? Haddin is by far the best - one dropped catch in India doen't matter as his keeping was much better than Wade's was on the test tour. I think the selctors are waiting for Sam Whiteman from WA to gain a bit more experience. He looks a great prospect.

  • Street_Hawk on November 12, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    What Steve O'Keefe gotta do to earn a call? Lyon, Agar, Beer gets selected time after time without any notable performance..

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:36 GMT

    Realistically Johnson is a serious gamble from the Australians. On his day he is an excellent bowler, but I honestly cannot remember the last time he has performed with a red ball? (please let me know if I'm out of line here..? Selective English memory and all..)

    On the other hand I feel like Bailey is an excellent inclusion. I realise he has not lived up to expectations in the first class game, but success in one day cricket is not to be frowned upon. It brings confidence, and as a batsman myself I know how much that matters.

    On the whole I'm very happy about the Australian side (as an Englishman). A splendid blend of relying on Clarke and depending on Harris. Should be a good series.

  • Sir_Harry_Flashman on November 12, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    Great - Johnson in the Aussie squad! I do really believe that Johnson doesn't respond well to crowd baiting and he will be target number 1 for the Barmy Army during this series. I've seen several instances (Sydney test, 2010/11 comes to mind both with bad and ball) when he mind goes when the Johnson songs start being sung. As a confidence bowler he's susceptible to the influence of inebriated crowd chanting, which at his pace could be bad news for the Aussie attack given the critical role of bowling line and length to England's batsmen.

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    What is JOHNSON doing here in the squad?? He was awe-full in his line & length in India and also very expensive. He played in Shefild Shild but did nothing notable there either. Perhaps BEN CUTTING would be better choice than MJ.

    2nd thing, Fawad Ahmed is far bettter bowler than Lyon.

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    Lets just hope the Gabba pitch is fast so that we can justify playing all 4 quicks; that way we should be able to have effective 'Mitch Insurance' for any wayward spells. The beef I have with the squad is that they have sacrificed one of the most important fundamentals of Test Cricket strategy which is to establish an effective newball bowling partnership but instead have opted for a 'Mitch fireworks display'. I will be ecstatic to wear egg on my face though if Mitch proves me wrong and rips into 'em but still insist that Cutting displayed all the attributes of an intelligent and effective newball partner for Harris! I always get toey when my cricket side is wicketless in the first 45 mins of a test match due to newball wastage; even moreso than if they were batting and 2 wickets down. With the hungry and ruthless Cook; it makes me even more nervous! CMON MITCH PROVE ME WRONG!! RIP INTO 'EM!!

  • Hareendra on November 12, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    1.Rogers 2.Warner 3.Watson 4.Clarke 5.Bailey 6.Haddin 7.Faulkner 8.Johnson 9.Siddle 10.Harris 11.Lyon

  • Ragav999 on November 12, 2013, 4:30 GMT

    @latecut_04: Cummins,Pattinson, Bird and Starc are all injured. Pattinson was injured in England after the second test. Bird and Starc were injured after 5th test. Cummins has been injured for a long time now and has only played few games between his injuries.

  • vish57 on November 12, 2013, 4:27 GMT

    Batting is still a weak link, except Captain of Australia , no big players. Top 3 will be fragile against English bowling. Good luck Australia, England has the edge in the series.

  • millsy24 on November 12, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    Ms.Cricket, how were they results below expectations? We have had a bunch of talented, but ordinary, players for some time. They are improving and I expect this series to be a lot closer than the last one. Clarke won't resign as captain and nor should he. He is the only world class player we have and the only one that would walk into any test team, apart from Watson maybe, around the world. The others wouldn't even come close.

  • Ben1989 on November 12, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    surprised to see so many people bringing up SOK, whilst he has been harshly treated, there is no spot in this squad for him, we need a batsman at 6, he's a bowling all rounder - of which if we needed one - would be Faulkner being a pace all rounder not spin, you don't just throw a name up in the air because he's done well in the past, think present guys... present!!!!!!!

  • Ben1989 on November 12, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    @BradmanBestEver on (November 12, 2013, 3:28 GMT) I thought that it's blatantly obvious why they were picked over Lynn & Cutting, Cutting is in essence not much of a different bowler compared to Harris/Siddle, we need variety & it was the best idea to replace a left armer with a left armer, Johnson has proved he's bowling pretty well at the moment & deserves his spot back in the team (for now!!) Lynn well can't believe you've even said he should be in the test team, yes the lad has had a great start to the yr but he wasn't even a member of the QLD Shield squad last yr & his recent 4 day game would've been the first for quite some time with QLD, why would you comprehend even considering someone whom is so young & hasn't proven themselves in the longer form of the game until the past couple of weeks, both Bailey & Johnson have international experience & proved they're able to handle the stress of an international cricket match, has nothing to do with political skill like you mention...

  • latecut_04 on November 12, 2013, 4:14 GMT

    I had asked this yesterday aswell but whatever happened to Cummins,Pattinson,Bird etc?(I hear Starc is injured).Are they injured?this is from India and me asking a genuine doubt.Harris and Siddle and these bowlers alternatively or may be together should have been the mix.Why dont Aus go far fast bouncy pitches.Their strength is bowling and the above mentioned bowlers or even Mitch will win them matches on these turfs.(Remember Perth).Will Harris last 5 matches.And who will fill in in case he wears out.

  • on November 12, 2013, 4:09 GMT

    IMHO Michael Clarke is the best test bat that Aussies have at moment but he may not be the best person to captain Aussies.

  • MohammedPadela on November 12, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    Squad looks balanced but there can be some changes. Good inclusions: 1. George Bailey 2. Jamed Faulkner.

    Surprise inclusions 1. Chris Rogers ( Age factor+ didnt do much in England) 2. Nathon Lyon ( Over used hasnt proved his selection for a long time now(

    Must be in squad 1. Philip Hughes ( He looked in good form in India and can play as an opener instead of Rogers) 2. Ashton Agar ( Can be handy with the bat and much better than Lyon)

    Usman Khwaja should be in the squad whether he is in the playing 11 or not. Must train him from now.

    Opinions please?

  • Fan1969 on November 12, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    Indian fan here.

    Guys Bailey was the only batsman who never looked like getting out. Whether it was to spin of Ashwin, Jadeja or the new find Shami he was really good. I agree that the red ball swings more than the white ball but give the guy a chance.

    Remember Aussies were in India for a TEST series in early 2013 and except Clarke, as an Indian fan I did not care who from Australia was batting. They were all looking average. Infact Starc and Siddle batted better than the batsmen.

    Bailey is really good.

  • Shaggy076 on November 12, 2013, 3:59 GMT

    I've known since Inverarity spoke a couple of weeks ago that this was going to be the squad and that Faulkner will be 12th man and over those couple of weeks after initially not believing Bailey good enough to be picked, I have come round to his selection. We need a genuine lower order bat one that can tough it out in trouble but if we are in a very good position take the game on. As most contenders are top order bats it left Bailey, Voges , White, Fergusson. I don't know why but I think it is a good choice. The only change I would personally make to the team is to bring Hartley in for Haddin - after seeing Haddin dropping the easiest of catches in India, it is time to move past a 36 year old aveage glove man.

  • jmcilhinney on November 12, 2013, 3:54 GMT

    @Hauritzj on (November 12, 2013, 3:21 GMT), Faulkner will only play if Watson can't bowl and they feel they need that 5th bowling option, in which case Bailey will likely be the one to miss out. Haddin will bat at #7 if Bailey plays and probably #6 if Faulkner's in.

  • smudgeon on November 12, 2013, 3:52 GMT

    BradmanBestEver, I agree that there must be something else going on with SOK than his record. Whether it's political or perhaps his interpersonal skills, I've no idea. However, Nathan Lyon should retain his spot based on his recent test performances. It's a while back now, but he took 7 or 8 in his last match against India, and then performed well in his last three tests against England. If they turn up a green track in Brisbane, he might find himself shunted aside in favour of Faulkner, though.

  • T.H.Farooqi on November 12, 2013, 3:44 GMT

    Wellcome Gearge Bailey,best of Luck.I hope perform well.

  • on November 12, 2013, 3:39 GMT

    Pretty good squad I reckon, the big question is "will Clarke be able to bad a tad higher than number 5?" Playing XI for the first test (Assuming that Watson will not be able to bowl).

    1. Rogers 2. Warner 3. Watson 4. Clarke 5. Smith 6. Haddin 7. Faulkner 8. Johnson 9. Siddle 10. Harris 11. Lyon

    The biggest risk in doing this is that Australia would lose one genuine batsman, however should Watson be able to bowl, Haddin will bat at 7 and Bailey would come in and bat at 6.

  • Cobra0077 on November 12, 2013, 3:39 GMT

    I'm neither for either of these countries, but, value a good cricket match ( not a fan of T20 & ODI ), having said that, I think England are going to be in a dogfight with this Aussie team, in fact they may be a bit surprised if injuries does not play a part in the outcome and I also hope the pitch does not play a major factor in the outcome and please NO MORE FLAT TRACKS. That's a recipe for injuries for fast bowlers. I was expecting Bailey, Faulkner and Johnson to be selected. On the other side I hope KP and the rest are fit and ready. Will definitely be worth being awake the whole night (time zone problem living in US ) and going to work without any sleep, TORTURE.

  • espncric on November 12, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    Still Finding trouble to plck as a best squad for aus team My squad for aus team openers roger & ......... 1 ............... 2 Clarke 3. Bailey 4 haddin / paine 5 faulkner 6 johnson/Henriques 7 harris 8 siddle 9 lyon/ other probably watson & warner are not best test player i think so, instead they are best odi & t20 players. Aus need to find the best position as opener , one down player , wk ,spinner

  • on November 12, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    Surely someone didnt mention Steve O'keefe and mark cosgrove ? Good line up with good form , every player down to number 7 except clarke and haddin has made a ton in there last 5 appearance's

  • jimbond on November 12, 2013, 3:37 GMT

    Test selection should be ideally based on first class performances, but as there is no stand-out batsmen at the first class level (apart from Katich or Mike Hussey or Ponting), Bailey is a welcome addition. Chris Rogers and David Warner are good at the top. Shane Watson at No. 3 could be a problem, though he may perform better in Australia than in England. Michael Clarke, and Steve Smith are good at 4 and 5(or at 5 and 4) and George Bailey at 6 and Brad Haddin at 7. For the four bowlers, the likely four are Mitchell Johnson, Peter Siddle, Ryan Harris, and Nathan Lyon. James Faulkner-given his recent performances- at 12-is a good joker in the pack. He can come in for Watson (if he is injured) and strengthen the bowling- without really weakening the batting. Else he can come in for any injured fast bowler and thereby strengthen the batting- without much appreciable loss in bowling quality. I believe that Lehmann can get a decent performance out of this team.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on November 12, 2013, 3:34 GMT

    I knew Baily will make it. I know runs were made in ODI's and were made on docile tracks, but its not that he scored only in India. He has been scoring them frequently since his debut in ODI. More than runs scored, its the manner in which he scored runs which is important and the thing which had been missing from this Aus squad except Clark. A solid batsman I will say. And when we say docile tracks, didn't Johnson troubled us match after match and we kept on wondering after each match perhaps ANOTHER Mitch turns out today? Doesn't that shows that he is doing it consistently now? Consistency- the factor which was missing from not so long back Mitch version? But playing Harris & Johnson together is laced with one risk, both are impact bowlers and best when used in short bursts. Harris can bowl long, he is workhorse what then do you want to play him only 1-2 tests in series? That is where I think Faulkner comes in picture in place of Watson if Watto is not fit enough to bowl longer spell

  • alstar2281 on November 12, 2013, 3:32 GMT

    I like the side but for the inclusion of Johnson. I think he is a big gamble. He is historically hit & miss, both performance wise & in his ability to bowl in the right areas. He is coming off the back of what was an average ODI tour of India, a place & format he has done well in previously due to the assistance he gets to swing the ball + a up & down start to the shield season where he has been expensive. It seems the selectors continue to like to gamble on X-Factor, however I don't see the Johnson has it. Harris is menacing & fast enough, Siddle offers you the workhorse. The third spot should be for an out & out swing bowler or a leftie who can bowl good areas. Johnson is a hedging of the bets. If he starts spraying them Australia will be a bowler down and in all sorts of trouble. I think England would be wise to target him, he is the potential weak link.

  • BradmanBestEver on November 12, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    It has to be the case that SOK is being overlooked for political reasons.

    Bailey and Johnson? Lynn and Cutting are (1) younger and (2) have better long game form. Probably Lynn and Cutting lack the political skill....

  • Ivan on November 12, 2013, 3:24 GMT

    Team is what was expected. If Johnson can fire the poms will be in big trouble. No one likes facing genuine pace at around 150kph.

  • Hauritzj on November 12, 2013, 3:21 GMT

    This 1st test squad is an interesting squad with a few surprises. Brad Haddin shouldn't bat at 6 rather 7. James Faulkner should bat at 8 rather 7. It is a aggresive move to have both allrounders in Shane Watson and James Faulkner. Watson and faulkner together should bowl about 20-25 overs not into the 40 or 50 over mark. The openers in Chris Rogers and David Warner will be a good opening pair. With Watson coming in at 3 the top order looks solid. George Bailey is an interesting selection. He is a great player with the white ball, but his red ball career could be questioned. Bailey should be replaced by Michael Klinger Nathan Hauritz still is number one off spiner in the country. He should play instead of Lyon. The spinners should be in this order of selection. Hauritz, Lyon, Holland, Doherty, Beer, Maxwell. My ideal test XI would be: Rogers, Warner, Watson, Clarke (c),Klinger, Smith, Haddin, Johnson, Siddle, Hauritz, Harris. Hopefully Australia can win the first test in Brisbane.

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on November 12, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    The definition of insane is picking the same players again and again and expecting different results

  • slow.mo on November 12, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    No surprises there which is a good thing. But I am still doubtful about Bailey. A long form specialist ie. Doolan would be a better choice in my opinion. Bailey will be under lot of pressure to perform. He knows his inclusion is questionable to some.

  • Ms.Cricket on November 12, 2013, 3:06 GMT

    Bailey's selection is welcome. Warner's not. Will Clarke resign as captain if Australia lose another series. The 0-4 defeats to India, 0-1 to SAF and 0-3 to England were results below expectations.

  • CameronHunt on November 12, 2013, 3:05 GMT

    Chris Hartley has been the best wicket keeper batsmen for the last 5 years in all forms of domestic cricket - if only he was a NSWelshman.

  • Red_Drag0n on November 12, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    Very happy for Bailey. If he gets going, he will be rock solid in middle order.

  • Jeremy303 on November 12, 2013, 2:56 GMT

    Good on Bailey for getting selected - he'll do a good job for the lower-middle order. If Watson was ruled out, I would have picked MARK COSGROVE. Australia's top order needs him there. Also, SOK overlooked once again??

  • ShutTheGate on November 12, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    I suppose a question Boof and Clarke will have to consider is whether to play a spinner or 4 paceman in Brisbane and potentially Perth.

    It could be beneficial depending on the pitch to rotate Lyon to 12th man for the Gabba and WACA matches and bring Faulkner into the starting 11. That will give us an attack of 4 seamers plus Watson with Steve Smith bowling so leggies.

  • cricketsubh on November 12, 2013, 2:51 GMT

    great squad but i donot play watson in the 1st test becoz he is not play any 1st class matches so i pick fulkner for 1st test and watson can back in to the team in the 2nd test and also chance to play some shild matches between 1st and 2nd test .i also pick 4 pacers for gabba pitch i think this pitch will be fast .

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    Excellent - our squad is older than the Poms. It's going to be a long summer.

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:44 GMT

    A good Squad and good selction and mixture of batsmen and bowlers hope it worked out. Best Luck Aussie, Win it This Time.

  • CosmoCrawley on November 12, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    Bailey and Johnson wouldn't even have been in contention if I were a selector and this just underlines how low our stocks have fallen. The selectors will just have to learn the hard way that one day form means nothing when it comes to real cricket. Doolan should have been picked ahead of Bailey, and Faulkner, who performed with distinction in his only Test outing should be the first pick left-arm bowler.

  • ShutTheGate on November 12, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    IT's good to see that the selectors have gone with some consistency. I think that settling down as a team present the Aussies with their best chance of winning the upcoming series.

    I do think that Doolan will get his chance soon enough, I'd prefer him to Hughes or Khawaja. Hopefully he continues to make runs in the Shield so that he can not be ignored.

  • Gurudumu on November 12, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    Interesting that Fawad was not selected! Lyon is definitely not better than him and I believe there's a little of politics behind this selection - recall 'noises' from past Australian cricketers that Lyon had been "hard done by". How long will outside influences continue to determine the fate of OZ cricket? Your guess is as good as mine.

  • popcorn on November 12, 2013, 2:33 GMT

    This is The Ashes-winning Team! At last, stability has returned to the Test side! Thank you, John Inverarity.

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:32 GMT

    Well picking the test team based on ODI form didn't work so great in Inida (or ever), if anyone's going to be the exception though Bailey's got a lot of hype around him. Failed in both innings last week, averaged 18 last summer, averaged 37 in county, career FC average 38. I'm not convinced but not surprised considering how well he's done against international opponents.

  • Little_Aussie_Battler on November 12, 2013, 2:29 GMT

    Wonderful, all common sense thrown out the window and our test team is now being selected by the populist media.

    Bailey does not, nor ever has test match selection. His performances in the four day games have been average at best.

    Where are you Ian Chappell?

  • landl47 on November 12, 2013, 2:28 GMT

    The only surprise in the squad is that they've only named 12. That seems to indicate that Faulkner might get the nod over Bailey as cover if Watson can't bowl. Of course, if Watson can't play then they will both be in the side.

    Going in with Bailey plus the erratic Johnson and the notoriously injury-prone Harris and Watson would be a pretty big risk. Still, maybe Warney is advising the Australian selectors!

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:22 GMT

    blanced side...i can see this winning the ashes.... go aussie

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    baily in????wooo woo woo..of course baily is a good batsman...but its india's pace army who pulled out tha real tallent frim baily..nd aswin's pause delivery also,..ishant and vinaya did a lot...ausies sud be thank ful to them..who brought a bew tallent right wen ausies are going under batin crises

  • ak_dragon on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    A Very balance attack & Batting line up...This squad will definitely give tough time to poms...!

  • JAH123 on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    A very predictable XI, which is a good thing. the only question is whether they play MJ or Faulkner. I think that depends on how fit Watson is for bowling - if he can't bowl much then I would play Faulkner because he is more consistent and will take some pressure off Harris and Siddle. MJ can be more damaging but if he is off then it makes it tough for the other front liners.

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:14 GMT

    nice squad..AUSSIE well ready to beat englishman

  • skkh on November 12, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Pretty straight forward selection, I reckon. Lets hope that Mitch comes out both guns blasting as he is the only bowler on either side with the x-factor. Lets hope that our batsmen click this time around and here's wishing Bailey the very best.

  • smudgeon on November 12, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    Congrats George - now to prove a new bunch of naysayers wrong! Good luck, buddy.

  • azzaman333 on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    If we're picking Mitch Johnson, I'm supporting the Poms.

  • CrICkeeet on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Best of luck George! His career is a Dream... Suddenly from nowhere came in T20 team nd directly as a CAPTAIN!! then got ODI captaincy (4 pup's injury) nd now in ashes squad...

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    wow !!! bold move but probably not in the right direction. Test places should be given based on First Class performances and not on the basis of scoring tons of runs on flat pitches. I hope Bailey proves me wrong, but well there were far better and more deserving candidates who might feel a little unsatisfied with this decision.

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    wow !!! bold move but probably not in the right direction. Test places should be given based on First Class performances and not on the basis of scoring tons of runs on flat pitches. I hope Bailey proves me wrong, but well there were far better and more deserving candidates who might feel a little unsatisfied with this decision.

  • CrICkeeet on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Best of luck George! His career is a Dream... Suddenly from nowhere came in T20 team nd directly as a CAPTAIN!! then got ODI captaincy (4 pup's injury) nd now in ashes squad...

  • azzaman333 on November 12, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    If we're picking Mitch Johnson, I'm supporting the Poms.

  • smudgeon on November 12, 2013, 2:10 GMT

    Congrats George - now to prove a new bunch of naysayers wrong! Good luck, buddy.

  • skkh on November 12, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Pretty straight forward selection, I reckon. Lets hope that Mitch comes out both guns blasting as he is the only bowler on either side with the x-factor. Lets hope that our batsmen click this time around and here's wishing Bailey the very best.

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:14 GMT

    nice squad..AUSSIE well ready to beat englishman

  • JAH123 on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    A very predictable XI, which is a good thing. the only question is whether they play MJ or Faulkner. I think that depends on how fit Watson is for bowling - if he can't bowl much then I would play Faulkner because he is more consistent and will take some pressure off Harris and Siddle. MJ can be more damaging but if he is off then it makes it tough for the other front liners.

  • ak_dragon on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    A Very balance attack & Batting line up...This squad will definitely give tough time to poms...!

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:20 GMT

    baily in????wooo woo woo..of course baily is a good batsman...but its india's pace army who pulled out tha real tallent frim baily..nd aswin's pause delivery also,..ishant and vinaya did a lot...ausies sud be thank ful to them..who brought a bew tallent right wen ausies are going under batin crises

  • on November 12, 2013, 2:22 GMT

    blanced side...i can see this winning the ashes.... go aussie