Australia v England, 4th Test, Melbourne, 4th day December 29, 2013

Rogers and Watson bury hapless England

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Australia 204 (Haddin 65, Rogers 61, Anderson 4-67) and 2 for 231 (Rogers 116, Watson 83*) beat England 255 (Pietersen 71, Johnson 5-63) and 179 (Cook 51, Lyon 5-50, Johnson 3-25) by eight wickets
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Jarrod Kimber's Ashes report: England's matrix is destroyed

This time last year, the thought of Australia's cricketers reaching Sydney with a 4-0 Ashes margin in their pockets seemed about as likely as that of the long discarded Chris Rogers making a century in the Boxing Day Test. So there was rare joy experienced by Australia, Rogers and another bounteous MCG crowd as both events came to pass, with the considerable assistance of a staggeringly listless England.

A successful chase offered vindication to Michael Clarke, who sent England in to bat in the knowledge that the drop-in pitch would improve across the match. A first Test century in Australia provided rich satisfaction for Rogers, plus the assurance that he will be on the plane for next year's South Africa tour. But another day of humiliation left England in a state of total despair, having coughed up their fourth defeat from a day three position that had looked close to impregnable.

The wretchedness of England's display was total, from dropped catches and misfields to Alastair Cook's increasingly leaden tactics. The touring bowlers, so often betrayed by their batsmen in this series, lost progressively more vigour as the target neared, allowing Rogers and a free-swinging Shane Watson to take far too many liberties. Few touring teams to Australia can possibly have put in two worse days of a Test than these.

Australia still required 201 when the day began, but Cook's men effectively surrendered the match with a pair of missed chances early in the morning session. By the time Ben Stokes struck to remove David Warner, English shoulders had slumped in anticipation of defeat, and they would slouch ever further as Rogers and Watson rolled up the target with plenty of flair in the best batting conditions of the match.

Rogers perished with 30 still to get, but even that dismissal had a silver lining. Clarke was able to walk to the wicket and collect his 8000th Test run, earning warm applause before ending the match in the company of Watson. The unbeaten and sometime estranged pair embraced warmly at the moment of victory, another scenario few would have been game to predict a year ago.

Resuming at 0 for 30, Warner and Rogers began ticking down the required runs, but would offer England a pair of chances to gain a foothold. Befitting of their play the day before, the tourists spurned them with all the disdain of a team that has lost all confidence or sense of how to grasp a match.

On 19, Rogers edged a fine delivery from Stuart Broad moving across him, and watched helplessly as the edge flew towards the slips cordon. Though it was well within reach of Jonny Bairstow, England's gloveman did not move, and Broad cursed his misfortune as the ball scuttled away to the boundary. Rogers only enhanced his feeling of injustice by upper cutting the next ball for four over the cordon.

Stokes replaced Broad after only two overs, and duly created his own chance when Warner drove at a delivery not quite there for the stroke. This time the ball travelled straight to Cook at an ideal height. When that chance went down, no-one quite knew where to look. A few overs later Warner did fall, a square slash attempt settling into Bairstow's gloves, but the muted nature of England's celebration indicated a team aware their moment may have passed.

Rogers meanwhile carried on in a manner so infuriating to bowlers, one inside edge past the stumps further cruel and unusual punishment for Stokes. There were other more fluent shots from there, however, as Rogers moved to his second half century of a low-scoring match. Watson joined in with a few sweet blows, and their partnership was soon motoring along.

As if transfixed by his own error, Cook seemed even slower to react than usual, and furrowed many brows at the ground by opting for Joe Root before Monty Panesar. Rogers was not perturbed by either, but shortly after lunch did offer another half chance - Bairstow diving over a low edge that bounced fractionally after passing under his glove.

The rest was a procession. Accompanied by Barmy Army songs that sounded evermore like gallows humour this series, Rogers and Watson unfurled numerous smart strokes, not least the punch through the off side that took Rogers to his hundred. He celebrated with a raised bat, a beaming smile and perhaps the shot of the match, cuffing Tim Bresnan through point in the next over to split Cook's attempt at a restrictive field.

Panesar eventually defeated Rogers, procuring a thin edge to Bairstow from an attempted back foot forcing stroke. But it was the merest bump on Australia's passage to victory, which Watson secured with a mow through the leg side and a fist raised in triumph. It was a win for Australia to savour, a defeat to mortify England.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on January 1, 2014, 0:19 GMT

    @pcraju of course Mitchell is trying to sledge the poms! It is cricket isn't it??! And tell you what it is working a treat.

  • ScottStevo on December 31, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    @Chris_P, I agree, I too had high hopes for MoHen, as I believe we've previously discussed, but he needs to do more if he's going to push his way in. He had a chance in India and started well, but ended too poorly. And definitely agree with your stance on guys like Maddinson and the other name that gets thrown around a lot here Silk. These guys need to prove that they can score big runs, not for a few of their first matches, but consistently. At the moment we've opted for guys with more experience in their own game. I understand that. We tried Hughes, Khawaja and had Warner and SMith in the side and we were desperately lacking experience, but more to the point maturity. Not only as cricketers but as individuals. Thats why I was all for Bailey in the test side, and even more so I was desperate to see Ferguson given a go. Two guys with experience in shield, know their games, know themselves, proven international performers (albeit ODI). Bailey won over with his unreal ODI year...

  • Chris_P on December 30, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    @ScottStevo. Mate, he toured England, Scotland & Ireland with the Australian A side during the English season & had these stats on tour, not sure why they don't show but they were FC fixtures.. He isn't the complete package as yet, but the trend is going upwards after many seasons of continued failure to live up to his potential. He is probably the most frustrating cricketer (for me) as he looks the goods & used to toss away his wicket. His first test was solid as oyu pointed out & there is no such thing as beginner's luck in tests, especially in India. He was run out without scoring by a really poor call by Wade & he has plenty of years to deliver. I am all for picking form players & although I watch NSW most games, he does stand out, having said that Maddinson needs at least a full season if not more of scoring runs before picking him, don't really believe in rushing either. Cheers.

  • ScottStevo on December 30, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    @Chris_P, where are you getting those stats for those county records you've pulled? I can't see that he's played at all in '13! Well, I'm judging his batting this season by comparing him with another who toured India and wasn't played - Ferguson. One is averaging 72, so the other doesn't have an excuse of being 'mucked around by the selectors'. Also, with scores of 0, 0, 5 and 2, he had a horror show - as did the rest of the side. He made a 68 and a 81* on debut - looks more like 'beginners luck' with that poor run afterwards. Watson didn't play well in that series, but on this evidence, there's no point claiming he did a better job using those scores, mate. Twice as well, pffft! Also, Watson didn't bowl in India, but MoHen averaged 78 with 2 wickets in 53 overs. Hardly inspiring stuff. Personally, I don't think he's up for test cricket - not even close. And Watson is a far superior player with bat and ball IMHO.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    "Rogers and Watson bury hapless England"

    Thus it is. Their level of hap is low enough as to be properly considered absent at this point.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    I've been mulling over this for a long time.

    To reduce the luck factor & eliminate post-match whingeing by the losers, here's a solution.

    The team winning the coin toss in match #1 of a series may:

    a) elect to bat or bowl, with the other team automatically getting the choice next match, & so on, the choice alternating until the end of the series; or

    b) elect to postpone the choice until the second match, allowing the other team to choose first, with choices alternating thereafter (this option being a strategic one if the first match pitch offers no clearcut benefit to bat or ball).

    At least think about it.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    @dalboy12 "Every team that goes to Aussie struggles, you have the fast bowlers. the fast pitches, the sledging, the media, the heat and the crowd all attacking you."

    And the flies. Plus MJ's moustache might also have been a factor this series.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    @samincolumbia "@Ozzz.z - Not as comical as your attempt in trying to string together a coherent sentence in english...'there' instead of 'their'. "

    You beauty, mate! It always scores huge points for your side of the debate when you can correct someone's spelling.

  • Chris_P on December 30, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    @ScottStevo. re: Mohen, I said forget him this season due to him being stuffed about by the selectors, although he did score an impressive century last start against Sth Aus.. Try looking at his fc season in England this season averaging 63 with the bat & 8 with the ball, last season in Australia 65 with the bat & 20 with the ball. You are a big fan of Watson, he did twice as well as Watson in India. Now if current form doesn't count, what does? You quoted 2012 season, that's 4 seasons ago, he has done it all since then. Yes he is a serious talent in my books. I have seen him live for 5 or 6 seasons, this guy has it all. Hopefully he can repeat again next season.

  • latecut_04 on December 30, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    @Biggus..cool down and i must say I understand your frustration and irritation.Narayanaswamy doesnt really represent all Indian cricket fans.I for one have been watching Ashes keenly from 2005.Now a HUGE majority Indians are interested only in T20(sadly) and i am sure Aus also has its share of 'test matches are boring' party.because we are so large in number when i say HUGE number of Indians number of comments would obviously be all over the internet and seen as general view of Indian fans(again sad but true.)Its almost incoceivalbe for many from here that this much interest could be generated forget sustained for a 5 MATCH TEST SERIES.i am not offering an excuse but merely stating a fact..I for one had missed Australianism in action for some time and hopefully you are right back...happy new year..!!

  • on January 1, 2014, 0:19 GMT

    @pcraju of course Mitchell is trying to sledge the poms! It is cricket isn't it??! And tell you what it is working a treat.

  • ScottStevo on December 31, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    @Chris_P, I agree, I too had high hopes for MoHen, as I believe we've previously discussed, but he needs to do more if he's going to push his way in. He had a chance in India and started well, but ended too poorly. And definitely agree with your stance on guys like Maddinson and the other name that gets thrown around a lot here Silk. These guys need to prove that they can score big runs, not for a few of their first matches, but consistently. At the moment we've opted for guys with more experience in their own game. I understand that. We tried Hughes, Khawaja and had Warner and SMith in the side and we were desperately lacking experience, but more to the point maturity. Not only as cricketers but as individuals. Thats why I was all for Bailey in the test side, and even more so I was desperate to see Ferguson given a go. Two guys with experience in shield, know their games, know themselves, proven international performers (albeit ODI). Bailey won over with his unreal ODI year...

  • Chris_P on December 30, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    @ScottStevo. Mate, he toured England, Scotland & Ireland with the Australian A side during the English season & had these stats on tour, not sure why they don't show but they were FC fixtures.. He isn't the complete package as yet, but the trend is going upwards after many seasons of continued failure to live up to his potential. He is probably the most frustrating cricketer (for me) as he looks the goods & used to toss away his wicket. His first test was solid as oyu pointed out & there is no such thing as beginner's luck in tests, especially in India. He was run out without scoring by a really poor call by Wade & he has plenty of years to deliver. I am all for picking form players & although I watch NSW most games, he does stand out, having said that Maddinson needs at least a full season if not more of scoring runs before picking him, don't really believe in rushing either. Cheers.

  • ScottStevo on December 30, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    @Chris_P, where are you getting those stats for those county records you've pulled? I can't see that he's played at all in '13! Well, I'm judging his batting this season by comparing him with another who toured India and wasn't played - Ferguson. One is averaging 72, so the other doesn't have an excuse of being 'mucked around by the selectors'. Also, with scores of 0, 0, 5 and 2, he had a horror show - as did the rest of the side. He made a 68 and a 81* on debut - looks more like 'beginners luck' with that poor run afterwards. Watson didn't play well in that series, but on this evidence, there's no point claiming he did a better job using those scores, mate. Twice as well, pffft! Also, Watson didn't bowl in India, but MoHen averaged 78 with 2 wickets in 53 overs. Hardly inspiring stuff. Personally, I don't think he's up for test cricket - not even close. And Watson is a far superior player with bat and ball IMHO.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    "Rogers and Watson bury hapless England"

    Thus it is. Their level of hap is low enough as to be properly considered absent at this point.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 12:11 GMT

    I've been mulling over this for a long time.

    To reduce the luck factor & eliminate post-match whingeing by the losers, here's a solution.

    The team winning the coin toss in match #1 of a series may:

    a) elect to bat or bowl, with the other team automatically getting the choice next match, & so on, the choice alternating until the end of the series; or

    b) elect to postpone the choice until the second match, allowing the other team to choose first, with choices alternating thereafter (this option being a strategic one if the first match pitch offers no clearcut benefit to bat or ball).

    At least think about it.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    @dalboy12 "Every team that goes to Aussie struggles, you have the fast bowlers. the fast pitches, the sledging, the media, the heat and the crowd all attacking you."

    And the flies. Plus MJ's moustache might also have been a factor this series.

  • Back-Foot-Cringe on December 30, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    @samincolumbia "@Ozzz.z - Not as comical as your attempt in trying to string together a coherent sentence in english...'there' instead of 'their'. "

    You beauty, mate! It always scores huge points for your side of the debate when you can correct someone's spelling.

  • Chris_P on December 30, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    @ScottStevo. re: Mohen, I said forget him this season due to him being stuffed about by the selectors, although he did score an impressive century last start against Sth Aus.. Try looking at his fc season in England this season averaging 63 with the bat & 8 with the ball, last season in Australia 65 with the bat & 20 with the ball. You are a big fan of Watson, he did twice as well as Watson in India. Now if current form doesn't count, what does? You quoted 2012 season, that's 4 seasons ago, he has done it all since then. Yes he is a serious talent in my books. I have seen him live for 5 or 6 seasons, this guy has it all. Hopefully he can repeat again next season.

  • latecut_04 on December 30, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    @Biggus..cool down and i must say I understand your frustration and irritation.Narayanaswamy doesnt really represent all Indian cricket fans.I for one have been watching Ashes keenly from 2005.Now a HUGE majority Indians are interested only in T20(sadly) and i am sure Aus also has its share of 'test matches are boring' party.because we are so large in number when i say HUGE number of Indians number of comments would obviously be all over the internet and seen as general view of Indian fans(again sad but true.)Its almost incoceivalbe for many from here that this much interest could be generated forget sustained for a 5 MATCH TEST SERIES.i am not offering an excuse but merely stating a fact..I for one had missed Australianism in action for some time and hopefully you are right back...happy new year..!!

  • pcraju on December 30, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    Johnson doesn't deserve the MOM in this match. It should have been Lyon or even Rogers. MJ is rude. He should have atleast accepted the mistake in the press conference if not directly to Pieterson. Since he came to know that a child was crossing why cant he accept that it was not right for him to throw the ball in frustration. He crosses the line to be a professional cricketer. KP did the samething to Siddle, did Siddle do the samething that MJ did? MJ has become arrongant now since he has started taking few wickets these days. When he doesn't get wicket, he tries to frustrate the batsmen with his sledging.

  • on December 30, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    Ian Chappell has described this team as the most generous of all English touring parties - no truer word has been spoken! They are a disorganised rabble at the moment and are not capable of performing as a cricket side. I have to say, its a pleasure to be proven correct about the series outcome - to all my English friends who scoffed at my predictions - keep watching in Sydney, its only going to get worse!

  • Biggus on December 30, 2013, 5:49 GMT

    @Narayanasamy Balasubramanian:- Two points:- 1) His name is Mitchell, NOT Michael. 2) You can't understand why the Ashes is given so much importance? Easy, you're Indian and your team isn't involved. Similarly, when India plays someone other than Australia I'm generally disinterested. The big difference however is that I don't feel the need to go to the comments section of those games and state my disinterest since it's obvious the relevant fans couldn't care less whether I like their game or not. Getting the picture? We don't care if you find the Ashes a bore, we don't play it for your benefit, that SHOULD be obvious. Why comment at all? After all you have your own series to follow atm. Is it such an imposition to not click on the articles that don't relate to 'Team India' games, or do you really think your pleasure or otherwise is a matter of global importance?

  • Jeeves_ on December 30, 2013, 4:22 GMT

    Gary Ballance was the back-up test batsman. After 3 tests since Trott went home, he is yet to debut. Compton should be in, and Onions should have been back-up. No idea what happened to Matt Prior's mind? His form was shocking in England. Why was their no back-up in the touring squad?

  • jmcilhinney on December 30, 2013, 3:45 GMT

    @shot274 on (December 29, 2013, 16:18 GMT), agreed. It has been the theme all through the series that Australia have bowled well but not well enough to justify the carnage we've seen. The England batsmen just seem all at sea at the moment. For whatever reason, they did not come into the series with great form or the correct mental state and things have just gone downhill from there. They started to get into trouble and seem to have no idea how to get out. This latest debacle epitomises how low on confidence they are. The fact that Carberry, known as an attacking batsman, was plodding while Cook, known as a plodder was attacking started the whole affair and, once Cook was gone, it seemed that noone knew what to do. These guys really look like they need some time off but they just aren't going to get it, so I'm not sure how things are going to change any time soon. The best thing England could do right now is rest every Test player from the upcoming limited-overs series I think.

  • shijin1429 on December 30, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    feel shame o england.this is very disappointing 4 fans like us.poor captancy frm cook throw root and include some one.morgan is handy why carberry, compton is 100% better than carberry.this is not good sign 4 england do somethng

  • Wallaroo on December 30, 2013, 2:30 GMT

    I'm over the moon for Rogers, he is a stalwart in the Aussie squad, I love people that just dig in, not flamboyant or vivacious but solid and reliable they are the people that make history and build nations, businesses and teams.

  • Alexk400 on December 30, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    England Tall bowlers concept not working outside England. England need to find fast bowler and also i think they lack real all rounder.

  • Bonehead_maz on December 30, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    Nathan Lyon bowls England out destroying the lower order. Then Chris Rogers, serenely scores a century to win it. These guys just won an Ashes test match ! Lyon and Rogers no less. Smith having won the previous. This could be a very useful side !

  • on December 30, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    A point which I want to emphasis in this context. Michael Johnson really a good bowler. When the Aussies have pocketed the victory in their pocket what is the fund in fighting vigorously the fourth one which is only in academic interest and Clarke the captain is also ferocious on the ground . It is funny. And even the crowd behaves senselessly to this effect. I do not know why the Ashes tournament is given so much importance.

  • CustomKid on December 30, 2013, 0:15 GMT

    @pommy80- not sure I agree with making KP the skipper, I'm positive he'd be more aggressive with his tactics but the fact that no one in that change room actually likes or respects the guy probably makes him a worse option than Cook.

    It would be interesting to see but it won't happen.

    Oh and Buck Rogers you little beauty, you rode your luck and produced a ripping knock, it is a Cinderella story for me. The guy is just too humble for his own good which I think is part of his charm. I love the story of the boys making him re-enacting his super man catch at the WACA post the team song out in the middle. The flying ginger completed it with a beer in his hand!

    You deserve everything that comes your way as the sun sets on a great first class career with the icing on the cake being test matches in the baggy green.

    Well done and keep making every post a winner.

  • shoddy on December 30, 2013, 0:12 GMT

    Pretty obvious England players didn`t even want to be there in the first place, they`re not robots and who can blame them, we`re nowhere near as bad as the results suggest. Aus is a very primitive country even by developed world standards just too tough a tour after an intense summer, I don`t blame the players or Flower at all.

  • on December 30, 2013, 0:02 GMT

    Some stats showing how close the contest was in England, albeit Eng winning 3-0...after 4 Tests in both series the number read as such:

    In England: Eng scored 2273 compared to Aus's 2132. England took 74 wickets to Aus's 70.

    In Australia: Aus have scored 2587 compared to Eng's 1837. Aus have taken 80 wickts to Eng's 57.

    A 3-2 result for Eng would have been fairer in England (Aus deserving 1st and 3rd Tests. Anyway, justice is being served now so is regular (As I have grown up with) service! (England being caned!!!) :)

  • Coolbanker1234 on December 29, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    Rankin, Finn and Tremlett are these the tallest water boys we have seen in the history of test cricket? England had a "process" of winning test matches based on solid contributions at the top from Cook, Trott, Petersen and Bell. If they failed, yoy had Prior, Broad, Swann, Bresnan getting you out of trouble with some decent contributions. Then Anderson and Broad did their work (supported by a steadt 3rd seamer) and if they didnt get you Swann and Panesar got the over the line. The problem when you have a "process" is when that doesnt work. It is very hard to find what they need to do to get back on track. I see the fear of failure in all their eyes. They just need to go back to basics and start enjoying playing cricket.

  • gidgea_rail on December 29, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    While Smart Stats are an interesting summary, if you are going to talk about the same achievement by different players, then the pertinent stats should be included. For instance, how long a batsman took to get to 8000 runs is a meaningless stat in comparing performances; surely, after a valid comparison of the Aust batsmen in the previous paragraph, Cook, Pietersen and Tendulker should be compared on the same terms - 181, 176 and 154 innings respectively. Age and time taken have very little meaning.

  • on December 29, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    I'm just curious. Was this the lowest scoring Ashes Test ever?

  • postandrail on December 29, 2013, 22:30 GMT

    The problem with English cricket as I see it is if they avoid defeat in Sydney the UK press will headline "COURAGEOUS ENGLAND AVOID ASHES WHITEWASH" and on returning home the players will be treated like heroes and rewarded by her Maj. And it's that attitude that leads inevitably to results like this.

  • on December 29, 2013, 22:15 GMT

    Well played, Australia, I think this Test defeat is the most depressing of the four so far for England. Trying to avoid a PomWash doesn't look likely. Disappointingly poor, England.

  • on December 29, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    for the people saying England got no up and coming talent we have in abundance for example robson chopra vince ali taylor ballance buttler woakes rafiq mills jordan overton that is just naming a few off the top of my head . don't know if the mindless selectors will pick any of them though as they don't like to do things like that very often

  • on December 29, 2013, 22:08 GMT

    @Mitty, I don't know where you get your stats from but I'd be checking them. Rogers 116 is definitely not the highest 4th innings score by an Aussie. Dave Warner's 123 n.o in Hobart springs to mind immediately and I'm sure there is many others. Mark Waugh also scored 116 at Port Elizabeth going back a while. Then there was Ponting's 156 at Manchester in 2005.

    Check your stats mate!

  • wellrounded87 on December 29, 2013, 21:52 GMT

    I think This innings has justified Watson's place in the team. His last to big scores were in, well i won't say meaningless circumstances but they certainly weren't under any pressure whatsoever. One with a series long gone and England experimenting with a few debutants and the second with the game Pretty much won for Australia with a quick dash of runs required.

    This time the pressure was on. At 1 for 60 odd Watson could have easily thrown his wicket away and Australia been deep in trouble. Watson is finally starting to perform the way everyone expected him to be playing for the better part of the last decade. Let's hope he can continue his form in they SYD test and SA

  • ScottStevo on December 29, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    Chris_P, I disagree, FC/shield form certainly does not equate to test match form - see M Ramprakash, Hick, et al. Though I agree his selection was deserving, albeit a few years ago. Prior to the previous ashes, it was the exact type of selection that if the Poms had made years ago we'd all be killing ourselves laughing at. Fortunately, Rogers did just about enough during that series to save our blushes from what would've rightly been good reason to be ridiculed. Only with this century today has it confirmed that selection to be a decent one. Fair play to him too. Question is, how long will he go on? He'll do very well to be part of the squad post the SA series. Oh, and one last thing re MoHen, Ferguson was also on the last Indian jaunt and unplayed, yet he has averaged 75 this season with the bat. When, Lord, when will this guy get a run!

  • ScottStevo on December 29, 2013, 21:36 GMT

    @Chris_P, except this year he averages 34 and the previous year he averaged 65 from 8 innings with 1 not out big hundred and 3 half centuries. Not bad you say. Well in the county season earlier that year he averaged 8 from 8 innings amassing a grand tally of 64 runs. Hardly impressive for anyone with 'serious talent' as you suggest. With the ball he averages 37 this season. His average looks god the previous few though, but even as a 5th bowler at test level, he doesn't have enough to succeed. No, he didn't perform better than most in India! He scored 68, 81, 0, 0, 5, 2. They make for horrific reading, no matter how poorly the rest of the side played, that's a shocking series. Also averaging 76 with the ball. We won't be seeing M Henriques in the side any time soon, and rightly so.

  • JG2704 on December 29, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    @Chris_P on (December 29, 2013, 3:35 GMT) Beefy's prediction was embarrassing. To make a 5-0 prediction after the Oz tour of India would IMO be a little OTT but Australia showed what they are capable of in the last Ashes series. I think alot of our pundits think we're a whole lot better than we are and the blips we had in UAE , NZ and vs SA and now here are just one offs. It seems to me that we're actually having more blips than great series which makes me wonder who are the real England?

  • samgannon22 on December 29, 2013, 20:42 GMT

    Don't get me wrong, I love Australia winning and Lehmann, Clarke, Haddin and Johnson have been great. HOWEVER, England are seriously pathetic!. If poor old Pakistan had lost 5 wickets for 5 runs on a flat pitch and dropped catches like the Poms there would be cries of match-fixing echoing around the globe. I have seen every series here for 40 years and the current English team are the worst I have seen. Bangladesh would be better. Australia currently is a fairly average side being made to look like world - beaters by a team devoid of skill and courage.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on December 29, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    This series has been nothing short of ruthless; Australia simply unrelenting, and with even all of the Marmite players like Watson and Rogers pitching in consistently it's virtually impossible to look beyond a 5-0 drubbing now. Cracking series, and it really must be hard for the England players to get up out of bed in the mornings. Months ago, England were talking big about going all out to reclaim the number one spot in tests; at this rate, they'll struggle to keep their test-playing status. Instead of cook-books and "Tactics Vindicated" articles and the likes, England should take good hard notes on this tour and realise that scraping about for narrow wins/shameful draws will never threaten the top test nations. The New Year needs to bring in new players, new management, new strategies, new mindsets...

  • 4test90 on December 29, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    On New Years Eve 2002, Aust led 4-0 and the possibility of whitewash was on.Considering the only Ashes whitewash ever had been 1920/21 I remember thinking I may never experience this again. Well it happened in 2006 and has happened again now. It seems Eng can only win down under every 25 years or so.

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    @ScottStevo. Buck Rogers has probably been the form Australian batsmen for the past 6 years both here & in England. He has consistently averaged 50+ wherever he has played. That form doesn't go away when playing tests, his inclusion, while delayed was totally deserved & a long run with the team was vital for him to deliver, which he has. I got no problems with giving guys an extended run when in current form in the format they are playing..

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    @ScottStevo. I really do wish Watto starts to add some consistency & cash in on his obvious talents, but he has continued to let us down for a long time. Agree his bowling is a huge bonus, he has to bowl, period. I have to disagree with you re: Henriques though. I have been watching him for years & this guy also has serious talent, but has also failed to deliver on it until recently. These last 2 years he has been averaging over 50 with the bat & about 20 with the ball in FC cricket. He performed better than most in India in what was a very poor overall team. Forget him this season though, they took him to India, didn't play him at all, missing the Ryobi Cup games & the first shield game meaning he started way behind everyone else.

  • on December 29, 2013, 19:07 GMT

    Mitch has been FANTASTIC and the MAIN MAN behind Aus regaining the Ashes but Chris Rogers was the man that saved and then won THIS TEST. Mitch is right, Rogers deserved the MOM award.

    Go Aussie!!! 5-0, please!!!

  • on December 29, 2013, 19:00 GMT

    People are saying England are doomed because there is no up and coming talent. This is not true. The selectors seem to not want to try people like Ballance, James Taylor, Finn. There are plenty of potentially great players in the county set up and Lions. They need to drop Bairstow and let him play more county cricket and development. He's continued to disappoint. Carberry HAS looked solid. Forget the last innings. He needs to score big yes, but remember, this is an Ashes tour of Australia. No batsman has performed so you cannot criticize Carberry for not hitting a ton. I believe Moeen Ali, James Taylor, Root are the future. Butler needs this season at Lancs to turn into a good first class bat and gloveman.

  • ScottStevo on December 29, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    @Chris_P, and the same could be said of Buck too, whom really shouldn't have been selected when he was. Also, just so you know, I'm not Watsons biggest fan and was one of the strongest protesters to his inclusion in the side back in '09. However, at the moment we need him. We need him as he allows us to have a top 6 of specialist batsmen and also to aid our fast bowlers with his nagging pressure and ability to break crucial partnerships without looking at clowns like Maxwell and Henriques who aren't anywhere near test players. To be honest, I'm just sick to death of him being crucified after every innings he doesn't score a century. If he scores 50, it's same old 'Watson can't go on with it'. Even when he does score a match winning century it's somehow derided by a perceived lack of meaning or an acceptable amount of pressure. Get off our players backs and support them when the team is winning well...

  • Cricfever_PM on December 29, 2013, 18:40 GMT

    One must feel for Eng as they can't even hold the third straight Ashes for at least 3 months!! Cook was the backbone of Eng's success for last two or three years but he didn't click, and KP, Bell & Prior are in very very bad form! Bowlers are doing what they suppose to do but it's their batsmen's responsibility of not stepping up and deliver! I really don't know why Comptom dropped during the Eng Ashes and Root was brought in and got succedded but suddently he pushed to No.6 & No.3. If i would have been the captain Carbery wouldn't get the chance!

    What is the use of Gary balance selection? Why they pushed Swan to retire at middle of the serious, and i think Trot may know this would happen and escaped.

    With not having single 100+ opening stand and continues middle order failure are reason for lose, i hope it's right time for sit and do the home work rather then pushing another seniors to retire!!!

    All the teams are just the lion in Home and rat in overseas!!

  • SL-USA-Lions on December 29, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    @ Everyone:

    Aus. played really well. A total dismantling of Eng.

    Few weeks back I said that this return series has been played too soon. I still stand by my judgment. A bare few months between two Ashes series is unheard of. Regardless Eng were not mentally/physically prepared for the series.

    When I say a total dismantling I mean down right total drubbing... I wanted Eng. to win but one player pulled out mid series sighting personal issues and another quit right after?

    What's going on with the Eng team? Are they trying to go back in time to the mid 90's when they pretty much were humiliated by everyone?

    Success or Victory waits for no one... You can't just wish and hope for it without hard work, application and commitment.

    Eng will have to regroup and revitalize their team. It's pretty sad when two Ashes series were played within an year and some teams have no tests for like ages...

    Just because he got a BIG MUSTACHE Johnson IS NO Lillie...

    But this series SEEMED LIKE IT.

  • blogossip on December 29, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    apart from tour of India, England was struggling on overseas tours and only bowlers were preventing them from defeat. Australia lost a narrow ashes contest in England and it was ominous England would be exposed but 4-0 is way too much.

    What was Monty selected for?? very poor captaincy from Cook

  • greek-paratha on December 29, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    Flowers wilted in the Australian heat and Alaister's cooked.Roll on Australia for a 5-0 drubbing.They use to employ Dhobis in the colonial days now it seems the old country gents have been given a complete wash-out! Lets wait and see how theiy fare against a proper cricketing outfit in S.Africa.No doubt England will try to boost morale in those pointless ODIs to follow.

  • xtrafalgarx on December 29, 2013, 16:36 GMT

    You do realise Australia has never lost in SA for well over 20 years?

  • balajik2505 on December 29, 2013, 16:30 GMT

    Surprising. At the start of the series, I confidently predicted England would win. They looked to have all the bases covered. But it has all gone horribly wrong. I haven't watched much of the cricket, but I could'nt believe how England fell apart. Too many collapses. 1 wicket gets 3. Time to rebuild. Maybe England needs to take another look at James Taylor and Nick Compton. Prior seems to have lost his mojo, and Bairstow's glove work is being roundly panned. England need to look for a good keeper. All keepers are generally pretty handy with the bat. Gilchrist and Prior were gifts their teams happily took. As for Australia, most of the team is in their 30's. They have done well, but they need to look to the future. However, staying in the present, the 2 players who are the stars of the show are Johnson and Haddin. It's a toss up as to who is player of the series.

  • shot274 on December 29, 2013, 16:18 GMT

    of all the surprises in this series the one that stands out for me is Lyons 5 wicket haul in the middle of the third day on a pitch not offering spin.What was that about? i can understand MJ who on his day can blow most batting sides apart; but Nathan Lyon-a decent spinner but thats about it. And all wickets to attacking strokes when England simply had to bat 2-3 more sessions to give Aus a 350 target.Almost defies reason.

  • jmcilhinney on December 29, 2013, 16:10 GMT

    I'm not going to go overboard the way some people do and claim the the England batsmen have no courage or whatever because I have no doubt that they are trying as hard as they can to succeed but they really are failing miserably at the moment. It's hard to see how they will avoid a whitewash from here as if they couldn't take advantage of a good position here then there's no reason to expect a turnaround in Sydney. There could be a few dark years at least ahead for England until they get a new generation of batsmen with some experience coming good. Who knows whether Trott will be back and it wouldn't surprise me to see KP retire at the end of this series. Can Cook, Bell and Prior make a genuine comeback to form? Carberry was always a stopgap measure so England still need another opener in the next couple of years, if not sooner, and probably two middle order batsmen at least. Stokes has shown promise and may be an important piece of the puzzle as an all-rounder.

  • jmcilhinney on December 29, 2013, 16:03 GMT

    I feel for the England bowlers at the moment. They must feel something like the Australian bowlers did on their recent tour of India. I don;t think that the England bowling has been great but it's been quite good and good enough to have won some games if not the series. In the four first innings so far, they've been good in three. They failed to inflict the knockout blow in Brisbane but still bowled Australia out for what was considered a below-par score at the time. In Adelaide they would have had Australia out cheaply but for some poor catching. In Perth they had Australia in trouble early but let themselves down by bowling short to Smith in particular. In Melbourne they again did a very creditable job. Every time though, the batsmen have left them in a position where Australia were under no pressure in the second innings so they had no real chance after having had no real rest.

  • gudolerhum on December 29, 2013, 15:14 GMT

    Jonny Bairstow is NOT a Test wicket-keeper. One should NOT expect him to do the job. The best thing that has happened to Matt Prior on this tour has been his omission from this Test. Cook just had no options at his disposal and it was obvious in his manner on the field. The bowlers are frustrated at the lack of support from the batsmen and seem unable to reach their best. Why carry the two tall fast men and never give either one a sniff is a strategy beyond comprehension. Flower seems to have become too obsessive in his detailed planning and needs to resign. It would be unfair for him to be dismissed. There is an opportunity for England to 'experiment' in the last Test and try to rebuild on their return home. There are tough times ahead for them.

  • Hummingbird0 on December 29, 2013, 14:46 GMT

    England done and dusted. So much for a team who were pushing for No1. More ridiculous when they compared themselves with Aus of 2000. And Anderson as Mcgrath and swann as warne. There is nothing more sweeter than this revenge. Expecting a whitewash which they can dream of in dishing back.

  • on December 29, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Well done Rogers, thoroughly deserved 100. Can't wait for the Sydney test! If we win 5-0 I will never forget this ashes series the so called "worst ever Australian test team" whitewashes England. I went to the Adelaide test match and the atmosphere was great can't wait till the oval is fully constructed 50,000 fans will be Awesome! Let's go Aussies

  • IMCG67 on December 29, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    Well played Australia - 3-0 flattered England in the summer and allowed complacency to set in. England have had their chances this series but the difference is that Australia have finished England off when they were down and England could not finish Australia off in the same circumstances ! Brad Haddin and Mitchell Johnson have been the difference between the two teams, seems strange that there have been questions over their places at different times this past 12 months - for England they need to look no further than selection - how good is Joe Root without a 180 when he could have been caught for 9 last summer ? Bairstow is no back up keeper OR batsman and why take 3 fast bowlers only to leave them on the bench ?? No need for radical changes but changes there need to be for a team very much in transition !

  • Ravi_kr on December 29, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    It's been long time that Aussies have won anything. One can say England have lost the last test before it could start. If England takes the last test to the 5th day then that would be called great for them.

  • RohanMarkJay on December 29, 2013, 12:58 GMT

    I was at the MCG today. It was great to be at the MCG historic and Iconic cricket venue close in prestige to Lord's though its too big for playing cricket. Also the size of the arena gave more fans to come through the gates Now that in London, England they have vast stadium similar to the MCG called the Olympic Stadium. It is the only big stadium in England that can host cricket. Authorities there should seriously consider Olympic Stadium as an ashes venue in 2015 I hope sports authorities there ensure at least one ashes test is hosted at the Olympic Stadium with a drop in pitch I am sure like at the MCG interest will be high and big crowds will come generating a great atmosphere.This is the third time I have attended a day of ashes cricket. Following from 1990/91,1994/95 and now 2013. Also first time I attended a day of cricket since Lord's 2002. Nothing like seeing live cricket. As a follower of the England cricket team for decades its disappointing though to see them play this badly

  • on December 29, 2013, 12:57 GMT

    Cook's tactics were all wrong , we needed to attack not put 5 or 6 boundary riders trying to defend. Root was not tried as an occasional bowler something the aussies were not used to where are Finn and Tremlett neither used yet the aussies showed fearsome pace was the way to go we use medium pace swing bowlers in an area where swing is unknown to happen Time to rebuild and stop this stupid resting period between tests . makes players rusty and lazy so takes them too long to get upto speed . I think flower is still the man to go with but he needs to get the chopper out and rebuild to many players nearing retirement age and are complacent. Swanny saw it coming and got out before he was blamed wise man

  • whoster on December 29, 2013, 12:31 GMT

    Cook has to go as captain. Got to feel sorry for him, but the way he handled England's bowling options in the morning was absolutely shocking. The one bowler capable of getting on a wicket-taking roll (Broad), gets taken off after two overs (straight after producing a ball that should've provided the first wicket), and doesn't come back until just before lunch. Joe Root is given TWO spells before Panesar gets a bowl - which very obviously says that Cook has no faith in Panesar whatsoever. That was terrible captaincy and man-management from Cook, and a real act of surrender.

    I'd very seriously consider Broad for the captaincy. He's been our star performer amid being vilified by the Aussie crowds and media, and he's dealt with it brilliantly on-and-off the pitch. If Broad doesn't want the job, then God knows who the other candidates are.

    Well done to Chris Rogers on his century. He's done a solid job for the Aussies, and he deserves his time in the limilight.

  • on December 29, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    Lol England were looking to take some positives from this match but ended up recieving more humiliation.

  • OneEyedAussie on December 29, 2013, 12:08 GMT

    Rogers drew on all his experience gained batting 4th innings for the Vics on MCG drop-in pitches to steer his country home in emphatic style. As for England, they were in the game momentarily due to Pietersen and a good first innings performance by Anderson and Broad.

  • lancs-lion on December 29, 2013, 11:51 GMT

    It's surely time to re-build for England? Add some young exciting talent to the central core of the few cast-iron senior players. This should be the end of the road now for Bresnan who was ridiculed at 7 an over here and only scored 1 run in 2 innings. Panesar cannot field or bat and if Cook won't bowl him then he should not be picked. Butler in for the jaded Prior. remove the bloated ego of Petersen and build some team spirit around a young new coach who wants to make a name for himself...Flower did a great job for us but surely it has now come to a natural conclusion?

  • DylanBrah on December 29, 2013, 11:42 GMT

    Time to bring Hughes into the team at the expense of Bailey who doesn't look Test quality. Groom him at no.6 and when Rogers retires/is dropped move him to opener. Would like to see Faulkner given a go too - maybe 'rest' Watson. Harris should absolutely be rested too. Would like to see either O'Keefe (leading Sheffield Shield wicket-taker), or Sayers (leading wicket-taker out of the quick bowlers) given a match. 5-0 is appealing, but this is an awesome opportunity to try out a few other players too.

  • SherjilIslam on December 29, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    I have said it before and i am saying it again, Cook as a captain is waste. He's overly defensive. England were lucky to emerge winners against India and Australia but this time were brutally exposed with poor leadership qualities of Cook. I mean which team will allow to score 40 odd runs for the last wicket at such a crucial juncture of the match?? 5-0 is inevitable now

  • jonesy2 on December 29, 2013, 11:33 GMT

    its only going to get worse for England with no up and coming talent whatsoever. Australia on the other hand are going to be number 1 in the world very soon and stay there starting with beating south Africa.

  • Dazako on December 29, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    Have to say Brad Haddin has got to be close to Man of the series, In my mind it is almost too close to call between Hads and MJ. Haddin has rescued Aus with the bat several times this series, and like Johnson without his contribution we would not have won without him. And his keeping has been incredible cant believe a man his age can move that well.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 11:29 GMT

    I know Steyn Philander and Morkel are the best attack in the world, but I am hoping defending 150 might be above them.

  • on December 29, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    one of the greatest bowling performance ever by australia.. horrifying the english batsmen.... specially MJ was hostile nd best he can get bt i still think that australian batting is not put to real test as their bowling covered it nicely... it will be interesting to see their batting against steyn morkel nd philander in SA........

  • Pritt32 on December 29, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    Fans paid so much money to watch an even Ashes contest, with so much media hype received. England has let the fans down, with awful displays. Swann retirement and Prior been dropped highlights the shambolic state of the team. 4-0 down in a series. 2014 looks a bleak year, unless the team wakes up to reality that they need fresh blood and new inspiration. It is worn out unit needing a new lease of life.

  • on December 29, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    i saw few comments regarding subcontinent wickets. Like australian & england wickets support swing & seam bowlers similarly subcontinent wickets support spin bowlers after day3. speaking about england defeating india at home.please you are talking about 2years old story.get over it.you are talking about time when top players were injured & many greats retired. then i can also refer to the champions trophy win beating england at their home ground. About englands performance in ashes this winter.frankly i expected it to be even but somewhere the aussies showed hunger & they won.you win test matches in sessions.by partnership. pressure was always on cook.even carberry took some strides but was pathetic in 4th test.some wickets taken by aussies were incredible but majority was give away by england batsmen. as far as england team future holds lets not concentrate on this series.its done over.existing team must really work on their basics & i believe they are formidable side.

  • on December 29, 2013, 10:59 GMT

    After the Brisbane win I predicted a series win for Australia and with Mitch bowling like a fiery beast it all seemed obvious at the time. Now the writing is on the wall. With the best bowling attack in the world and batting getting better by the day! And with the worlds best batsman in the side, and with a dearth of bowling and batting talent waiting on the sidelines Australia will dominate in 2014. The South Africa tour is going to be quite interesting. Looking forward to it after a 5-0 whitewash of England!!!

  • DJAbacus on December 29, 2013, 10:22 GMT

    @sickofwhingers

    'shows what most genuine cricket fans would know, Australia with a bit of stability are still a very good test team and that England have been on the decline for the last 2 years'

    I know what a great feeling it is to be an innings winning fan...I have been one in 4 of the last 6 Ashes Series....but don't spoil it for yourself by making embarrassing statements like this. The first part of the statement doesn't even make sense. As for the second part, in the last 2 years we have beaten India away 2-1 and beaten you lot 3-0 at home. This is not a team in decline.

    Australia have shown they can be a good team at home, but where do they go from here? Surely, you don't think they can beat SA in SA. England have been treading water for a couple of years but have lots of young talent coming through and will hopefully heal their Ashes wounds next summer with wins over SL and India.

  • Steve355 on December 29, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    @Alexk400. Give it a rest mate. Ashes series' and cricket in South Africa, NZ, and WI is proper, interesting Test Cricket; the way it's supposed to be played. A genuine contest between bat and ball. If you want to talk about boring, one-dimensional cricket you must be talking about the subcontinent. Doctored dust bowls where spinners regularly open the bowling. Quick bowlers bang the ball in short but it's lucky to reach the batsmens knees allowing them to swing like a rusty gate at everything. Constant 3/600 score lines. Now THAT is a yawn-fest.

  • Eight8 on December 29, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    I will certainly enjoy the here and now as the good times can be fleeting, and will certainly be hoping for a rare 5-0 whitewash. But looking ahead, Aus will soon have to enter another phase of transition. Rogers, Haddin and Harris surely only have a year or so in them and replacing them will be a challenge. Clarke's back may mean he has not much longer and his batting and tactical captaincy will leave a big hole. Even MJ, Watson and Bailey aren't spring chickens.

    Suggest Hughes in at 6 for the SA tour with a view of moving up to opener once Rogers goes. Then pick and stick with the most promising younger batsmen at 6 once that happens (maybe Silk, Doolan, Maddinson, etc).

    Key transition areas will be finding a keeping replacement (Haddin has been awesome!), and developing a number 3. Also a no.4 when Clarke goes. Young pace bowling depth is great with Cummins, Pattinson and Starc. and Lyon is more than serviceable as a spinner.

    Tricky transition ahead to maintain current momentum.

  • sickofwhingers on December 29, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    Great win by the Aussies and shows what most genuine cricket fans would know, Australia with a bit of stability are still a very good test team and that England have been on the decline for the last 2 years. Oh and the reason you don't see FFL, Plumridge, Hammond and Red and White army is because he is the same person and has been shown up as a very foolish chap with a very limited grasp of the game.

  • GurSinghgur on December 29, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Come on England fans, cheer up. If only we'd fixed the weather, the ball, the pitches, the umpires, the tosses, the crowds and the luck to favour us, bowled twice as well, batted half as badly, dropped fewer catches... we might have won the series (though probably we wouldn't). And pigs would be flying in every inch of Australian sky from Hobart to Alice Springs, while the laws of cricket would forbid whitewashes (as we shall no doubt soon discover that they don't).

    Still, we could probably beat Oz at morris dancing, tiddlywinks and shove- ha'penny.

  • heathrf1974 on December 29, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    I wonder if Root will play in the next test. His confidence seems to be very low. Bresnan might get the chop as well.

  • on December 29, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @everyone who underestimates Watto's bowling and wishes to swap him for the like of a Phil Hughes type.... Yes watto should be dropped and yes hughes should be in the side. But if we make that direct you may aswell just shoot Harris, pattinson, cummins, siddle and all our other somewhat frail bowlers. How bout Faulker/Henriqz for watto and hughes next in line for the slot Bailey hasnt locked up?

  • disco_bob on December 29, 2013, 9:15 GMT

    One question that has not been asked of this England squad, is how are they enjoying the food down under? Have we fulfilled our obligations as per their 82 page menu guide? Were the mung beans to their satisfaction, enough brandy in the Christmas pudding?

  • RednWhiteArmy on December 29, 2013, 8:59 GMT

    Yep, its officially time to play this team for the SCG 1 Cook 2 Root 3 Bell 4 KP 5 Ballance 6 Stokes 7 Bairstow 8 Borthwick 9 Broad 10 Anderson 11 Panesar/Finn/Rankin? Time to roll the dice for this last test.

  • Matt.au on December 29, 2013, 8:58 GMT

    Posted by Front-Foot-Lunch "England get the moral victory."

    If the English players morale has been boosted by this comprehensive loss, good grief they must have been in a bad state prior to this flogging.

    Outside of your understanding of reality of course the English didn't recieve any concept of a morale boost.

    I do understand following your team with passion and sticking by them in the tough and hard times. Sometimes though you just have to say well done to the other side and hope for the best next game or series.

    Making statements that are just plain ludicrous and bagging the winning side is sour grapes and disrespectful and will not in anyway change the facts of what actually happened.

  • Four_Bits on December 29, 2013, 8:57 GMT

    @milepost Haaa, brilliant. Perhaps Aus could be sporting and doctor pitch in favour of English for Sydney. Aus bat on minefields, just to make the game a bit more competitive

  • Vishnu27 on December 29, 2013, 8:48 GMT

    @pommy80: as opposed to the months of tripe we've had to endure from you lot?? Speaking of "one-eyed fans", where are your comrades now, BTW?? Ghost town England, all back to supporting their football teams. As my Spurs supporting, cricket loving Pommie mate has been saying these last wonderous 5 weeks: "it's footy season". Ah, bless....

  • RandyOZ on December 29, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    @Eight8 - back in Australia for Christmas mate and haven't had much of a chance to get online!

  • MaruthuDelft on December 29, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    Certainly this guy the Aussie coach is special. During the uncertain times before the England leg of Ashes he announced Watson and Rogers were to open well in advance of the first test to calm Watson. Watson didn't click. Moved to No 3. Just survived. Allowed to continue in Australia. Again he just survived. The coach didn't show his disappointment. But now He has given him 9 tests to see he is not good enough. Although Watson has the capability to coolly score a century in a session against any side I don't think he will survive against SA; he doesn't maintain motivation long enough at the right times of a test series and within a given test match; no easy cure available; somebody has to make him young which is not possible. The Australian coach is making preparations for the chop. The Aussie coach is smart and fair.

  • Shaggy076 on December 29, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    Srinik_Chennai; Like drop catches have been the only difference between Australia and england. If England took there catches in the Adelaide test then the Aussies still would have won by the same margin and here we still would have passed them two down. There has been a bigger margin between the two sides than just dropped catches.

  • pommy80 on December 29, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    @Mitty2 "Centuries update: Australia 8 England 0 New Zealand 1 South Africa 0".... Fantastic stat. Let me remind you how many players of your Rugby team are Australian? Fact is KP, Prior, Stokes all have English parents.

    What a contrast though, amazingly Aussie fans have come out in force. Not many were seen a few months ago.. I suppose Aussie's have forgotten there terrible team performances overseas. One eyed fans.

  • on December 29, 2013, 8:19 GMT

    Paul Rone Clarke Fair enough summary. But Monty should never be playing Test cricket, he's barely good enough for county cricket. He gets very few wickets in county cricket and his fielding is an absolute disgrace no matter how much he supposedly practices. We need half a side now but I don't know where we will get them from. English county cricket is tending to go the same way to a lesser degree as football. Too many overseas players making up the teams. Our batting shows distinctly the adverse effect that one day rubbish has had on it.

  • on December 29, 2013, 8:16 GMT

    I think the MJ MOM decision was harsh on Rogers in a match pretty much dominated by the bowlers apart from him. It will be interesting in South Africa, as there are still some frailties to this team but definite hope for the future.

  • foeofdevil on December 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    All are busy talking about Rogers,Johnson and Lyon. Bradd haddin is the man who played the pivotal role in first innings that avoided a psychological advantage and won the match. Sure I would give man of the match to him with glad.

  • Shaggy076 on December 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    Srini_Chennai; Yes i cant wait for that series you talk about between the two best sides. It will be interesting to see if South Africa can finally beat Australia on home soil as they havent done it since the early 70's. All records in SOuth Africa will count because there pitches are equally suited to quicks and spinners, like the pitches in NZ, England, WI, Sri Lanka, Australia and Pakistan. The only country where you consistently see two spinners opening the bowling is when India change the nature of there wickets to play Australia. I love all forms of test cricket but you can see what this policy has done to Ishant Sharma who was a very promising bowler.

  • milepost on December 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    I'm feeling guilty and need to apologise to England fans for doctoring pitches, we denied it but it looks to be true. The first 3 games the pitch went road-minefield-road-minefield. This game it went road-minefield-minefield-road so clearly something fishy went on. Let's hope in Sydney is us a fair pitch for both teams in returning back to road-minefield-road-minefield, depending only on if Australia bat first of course otherwise the order will be reversed.

  • DJAbacus on December 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    Confidence is everything in Sport. Australia are full and England are empty. They got it wrong in many areas including selection and Australia got it totally right. It's not for lack of effort and I am less critical of the individuals than the other England supporters. It happens in Sport. England have to take this on the chin and move on.There is plenty of talent in this squad so we will start winning again soon. Full credit goes to Australia for the way they have played.

  • pommy80 on December 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    Well done Australia. Beating a team that didn't care one bit about this match....

    Anyway time for change. New captain that isn't defensive (or is it the coach that is making Cook defensive?).. and new coach. Bring back KP for captaincy, atleast he would know how to set fields for teams 9 down..

  • Shaggy076 on December 29, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    Lyndon Mcpaul; Just some info for your argument he has not opened the batting and kept in the same game, Nevill has been keeping for NSW. He has had a good start to the year but Hughes, Voges, North, Fergusson and even Cowan have had better years so far. Then you have the likes of Khawaja, Burns, Pomersbach, Maddinson, Silk, White, Cosgrove, Henriques and Head probably in front of Carters.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on December 29, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Wow there's so many funny comments here, too many to address them all. In brief, no one can say anything to detract from, excuse or take the glow off Australia's 4 magnificent victories. No barbs about the tosses, luck, Mitch, crowds, lame supporters, doctored pitches, seagulls or the tooth fairy can touch us nor are any true. We've won well and responded to every challenge. Today was another fantastic victory. Thank you to those that Australia are playing some good cricket at the moment, that's all the fans wanted. @neil99 is @Front-Foot-Lunge, just so you know lol! As far as vs SA, we look the goods to go and win there.

  • BlackShipWreck on December 29, 2013, 8:07 GMT

    Great stuff Aus and all without the help of mint sweeties and jelly beans :)

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on December 29, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    contd.. No doubt top 3 teams now are SA,Ind,Aus. Though SA are clear no.1 are hardly 'great' team.In fact there are no all round great teams now.All are vincible can -esp. top 3-beat 1 other.Both Aus/SA are'nt strong as bef. Both will be happy with 1-1.

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    @Lyndon McPaul. All well & good, the only problem is that Carters is not keeping wickets for NSW, Nevill is.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    England are cooked & their excuses are over done. They should be ashamed as professional sports people. hey up nonnie, looking for 5 nil?

  • Vishnu27 on December 29, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    @Srini_Chennai: got one for you, mate! What about the hammering India are going to suffer here in Australia, on your next tour (December 2014)??!! Again & as usual, BTW. If MJ & co can wreak such havoc against a side used to pitches with grass on them, imagine the mental anguish India is in for??? It will be brutal. Get ready, mate

  • Digimont on December 29, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    I haven't been impressed with the Barmy Army this tour. They sang their songs throughout the 3rd test presentation, and even continued singing today when Chris Rogers was celebrating a century. I don't think they're there to support England, or to watch cricket. I think they are there solely to get drunk and have a singalong in public. They could learn to show appropriate respect at the right time.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    Gahaoamacham Oz didn't "work out" Anderson, bowling with the Kookaburra ball is Oz did it for them, he couldn't swing it, no one does. Bowling with the Dukes ball in English conditions is totally different. But then again, that's not your fault, you would have to know something about cricket to know that.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:50 GMT

    Bairstow looks so far from test standard as either a batsman or a keeper it's embarrassing. Cookes captaincy is of the "paint by numbers" variety. Anderson takes to these conditions like Brian Blessed at a Trappist monastery. Bells form has dipped sharply, Root and Carberry, while putting in the effort just have not been effective. Broad takes the wickets... Or no-one does. Bresnan, Anderson and Panesar just seem to be holding an end...when Cooke deems Panesar good enough to bowl.

    A shockingly bad England display. Again. This is NOT an Australia team of anything like the caliber of 2006/7 yet the result will likely be 5-0 as it was then which shows how poor England are away from home.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on December 29, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    @Srini_Chennai-well had to break it to you that Aus has best recd. of all team in SA since 1992 -SA incl. As if 'home' team is Aus not SA! Yes, mostly was due to a v good -much superior to current bunch - SA being up against-arguably-greatest team ever.

  • mamboman on December 29, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    I don't think all is lost for England and I don't think all is won for Australia. England are basically a very good side being let down in some key areas - most notably a weak, incapable captain and a wretched wicket keeper. Equally, if Australia can't raise their performance markedly and quickly, I think they'll be in for a very tough time of it in South Africa. The signs are good but there is still weakness and inconsistency throughout the batting and good as the pace trip av been the Saffers have more than their match in a dynamite batting line up. The trie test awaits.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    @ Srini_Chennai on (December 29, 2013, 6:34 GMT) no mate, you are wrong , playing the saffers along with all cricket loving nations counts, but it does not mean you have to love the way all nations boards and curators behave.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    @ everyone who wants to improve Oz batting...As far as a possible replacement for the struggling Bailey how; how about Ryan Carters? He has made runs against the touring side twice (also previous tour). He has made both his hundreds this season opening for NSW so must have a reasonable technique and he is a wicket keeper; which means that he has the capacity to concentrate for long periods. It is quite remarkable actually that he is able to back up a full day's keeping then come in and score a Hundred opening the innings. He could make a great understudy to Brad Haddin in the long term and would be handy if there were ever a mid match injury to Haddin. He is not quite dominating this season yet as Hughes is but still has the opportunity to finish the season off very strongly.In my reckoning he has the key ingredients of a great project player a'la Clarke and if he does do well at 6; has the fc experience to bat anywhere. The other main weakness is 3. Hughes for Watto in my book.

  • Bones87 on December 29, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    England should drop out Bresnan and Root. Give Rankin and Ballance a game and see what they're made of, and move Bell up to no. 3. I hope Prior can find some form and come back into the side for the English summer, Bairstow has a lot of work to do to get to test level, IMO, and so does Root for that matter (and I DO like both of them and see a good future for them).

  • first_slip on December 29, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    @ Pavan Kumar, how India beats England in England when India cant beat them in india, remember last England tour to india? and Indian tour to England? time to stop dreaming My Friend, ;)

  • PrasPunter on December 29, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    @popcorn , fantastic victory for us, no doubt about that, but think MC got away with asking Eng to bat first as he himself admitted during the post-match interview. Almost this time yesterday, for sure, MC would have been wondering why he did so when Eng moved to 100+ with 10 wickets in hand. I am sure he wouldn't opt to bowl first in Sydney if he wins the toss. Having said that, Steve Waugh famously quoted that the toss is just a way to start the game . So irrespective of that, we should put a quality show, which is what the boys have done. Aus, you beauty !! Love to see a 5-0 whitewash !!

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    If they r exhausted its their fault. They hogged every important team in sight, leaving SA without worthy opponents to play with.

  • gahapanmachan on December 29, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    Once Oz work out Steyn, like they did Anderson, they'll have field day in SA. Add the rejuvenated Aussie pace attack, I cannot see SA doing a lot better than England. Watch out Warner and Bailey(if he holds) for a feast.

  • DanTas on December 29, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    Brilliant stuff Aussies. Poms are down and out. Much has been written about Mitchell's wonderful performance thus far. I reckon Australia's position of such emphatic dominance has more to do with Ryan Harris being able to stay on the park. The guy is an out and out superstar and would have been an all-time great but for injury. Heaven help him after cricket coping with his knee(s). Mark Taylor compares his bowling to that of Malcolm Marshall. No greater compliment. Hope he can manage the South African tour.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:12 GMT

    People are a little disappointed with Anderson. I remember watching a show where SKY commentators were analyzing whether Anderson or Steyn is the best bowler in the world. After this series, that comparison simply seems ridiculous. Maybe Anderson had a good couple of seasons, but Steyn reigns supreme !!

  • ultimatecricketguru on December 29, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    England should make winning as second priority and should focus on enjoying the sport.. this whole winning everything by playing boring stressful cricket is causing all the problems..example is how KP is playing..he is simply an outstanding attacking batsmen..but all he is done this series is trying to survive..no one in the english batting lineup is trying to score..and their team selection is also pretty bad..playing monty was not a great decision..australian pitches are not spinning pitches..lyon is succeeding because he knows the conditions and what lengths to bowl..monty has no clue..england should have played rankin or finn which would have made it a much more attacking bowling unit with four seamers and occasional spin by root..

  • lillee4PM on December 29, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    For all those wondering why Aus are 4-0 up in this series and were so poor in England. Well, Eng have lost 80 wkts so far and MG Johnson has taken 31 of them. The South African tour next year will be the Johnson v Steyn showdown (bring it on!). If Mitch gets injured before we go to SA then God help us. For those that think test cricket is boring, then go and watch tennis.

  • on December 29, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    @cpt.meanster, fully agree with you.next time india tour england they will give england a tough time.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 7:01 GMT

    @ Srini_Chennai on (December 29, 2013, 6:34 GMT) no mate you are wrong, how many times can you say that to certain supporters, playing the Saffers always counts

  • PrasPunter on December 29, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    @Srini_chennai, to beat even that relatively weak aussie team you had to selectively water your tracks and prepare playing areas that are excuses for test wickets. What to call that ? An Ashes and several careers on the line and still we didn't resort to those sort of tactics like yours !! Even Eng would grudgingly admit that. We are not a good team, certainly not and we could still be beaten by SA but you know what, at-least we wouldn't insist on the removal of their CEO to make the tour. Enough said ?

  • Eight8 on December 29, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    @neil99: I think you really are front-foot-lunge. "Crawled out of their burrows"? Australian fans have been gloating for 3 straight tests. There was only 1 day of England dominance in the last 18.

    Can't win away. Yes we got smoked in India amongst our probable lowest point with form and team morale (coach was sacked just after), and we were certainly competitive in England despite the scoreline (pity England hasn't been as competitive this tour). But before that under Clarke we won in Sri Lanka, West Indies and drew in SA. Not that long before that we won in Pakistan, India, NZ, and have towelled the POMs up for years in England. We've won all round the world buddy.

    Speaking of burrows, where are all the usual suspect England posters now (FFL, etc). Suggest they are in their burrows.

    ps: despite being quite vocal while we the Aussies were down in England and stading by his team, barely heard a peep from RandyOz these past 4 tests. Felt sure he'd be all over the posts this past month

  • foeofdevil on December 29, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    @vishnu27 even I support aussies but just want them wrest victories from their strength not from gifts. South African tour may be a nice contest for Clarke to exploit the reprieved series.Its Indian tour I cant throw out of my mind.Luckily it was an ODI series.

  • one-down on December 29, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    @ dalboy12... "disgraceful that 3 & 4 can play 10 tests and 1 & 2 only get play a 2 test series." for this you can blame the greedy and pig headed BCCI as well as SRT who wanted to have a home farewell!!! :))

    @Fruit_For_Lunch... "Australia have just been lucky. If we'd won all four tosses we'd be leading 4-0, not Australia" have you been sniffing glue all the while your pathetic team has been 'trying' to play cricket? no if's & but's, wake up & smell the coffee... the Ashes are gone! crying over spilt milk will not bring them back :)) consider this: IF your team had played competitive cricket they would have had half a chance to put up a fight :)

    @Front-Foot-Lunch... "England get the moral victory" we are soooo happy for you... keep your moral victory... while we keep the Ashes :)

  • on December 29, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    Ring the changes for Sydney - Cook, Root, Bell, Pietersen, Ballance, Stokes, Bairstow, Borthwick, Broad, Finn or Rankin, Panesar. Not suggesting that's the end for any of those dropped but I can't see Anderson or Bresnan are likely to contribute much on the remainder of this tour. Wicketkeeper very much up for grabs come the Sri Lanka series - Prior, Buttler, Bairstow, Davies, Kieswetter will all have a chance to impress in county cricket.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 6:44 GMT

    @ Fury on (December 29, 2013, 6:15 GMT) you are right, but the Aussies have played probably 20 (its only a guess) players in that time trying to get things right, when with hindsight it might have only meant changing the coach, England have solely relied on the top 11 for ever, it can only have a limited time span.

  • Srini_Indian on December 29, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    @rickyvoncanterbury: Ya, since australia has horrendous record in India, matches in India don't count, don't they? I'm sure in 2 months time you'd be saying matches in SA don't count either as Steyn and co will have a field day against these 30+ old aussie batsmen. SA won't drop as many catches as England did in this series, so get ready for a aussie hammering, mate.

  • Cpt.Meanster on December 29, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    I just listened to the BBC podcast and it's absolutely RIDICULOUS for Geoffrey Boycott to say that the Ashes is the ONLY contest that's relevant to English cricket. This is why I feel England could lose all matches they play between Sydney and the next Ashes series. India and SL will give a tough time to England later next year during the English summer. England are not as good as they were. I already see too many excuses offered by English fans as to why England is losing. If England is losing 4-0 because of fatigue, then I guess India also lost 4-0 twice due to fatigue. Poor poor reasons for an abysmal performance. Wonder what other excuses English fans will provide following a 5-0 whitewash.

  • popcorn on December 29, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    I am delighted to have been part of the Record MCG Crowd as we watched our Team completely overpower England , and the tactically briliant, out -of- the-box Thinker, Michael Clarke, demonstrating to ALL Australian Captains,past and future, that the Axiom, "Win Toss, bat first, 9 times out of Ten,the tenth time, think hard, elect to bat", can also be reversed under certain conditions. Our bowlers justified the faith that their Captain had in them.Wonderful to see Chris Rogers score a century when it mattered most, and Shane Watson cementing his spot at Number 3. No longer do we need to fear tricky run chases. Now, George Bailey, will you please score a 100 at the SCG, and get on that plane with the SAME ELEVEN to South Africa? Oh, and more thing, Pup. It will be nice to see a 5 nil whitewash of England at the SCG. Like your predecessor Ricky Ponting did in 2006-07. And Warwick Armstrong. No "dead rubber syndrome", please. " You said in an interview,"We want to win every Test".

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    @Adrian Ratnapala. My friend, there was no one at the Gabba on day 5 because the test was finished in the 4th day! Wait, I think the groundsman was there, not sure though.

  • Shaggy076 on December 29, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Chris Gibson I disagree it was a very good batting wicket, England had a shot and were deflated mainly by Mitch. He took a wicket and run out early on day 3 to put us back in the game. Mitch made the biggest contribution towards winning 8/88 is outstanding and deserved the prize.

  • BMDeep on December 29, 2013, 6:22 GMT

    @insult to injury: True mate,I see so many ppl calling for a change of captaincy but I dont think they have a player in d current XI who is capable of taking charges from him. Perhaps Broad would be a choice but I dont see him carrying such burden given his work load and fitness levels. Alas,I havent seen Eng in such a shambles in last 8 yrs. Even their 0-5 defeat in Aus in 2006 havent caused them such misery.What is d point of bringing bringing in Rankin and Finn when they r warming benches.The thought of strengthening their batting to no 9 is an awful thought when d need of d hr is to go for a kill. Rankin would have made an excellent choice with his touch extra pace and surprise element.Anyway,they have nothing left now except to repent and remorse. As for d aussies,they played well and they deserve huge amount of appreciation for turning d tables around in a matter of 3 sessions. MJ is enjoying his form of life.All these will make for a good series in SA now with Kallis retiring.

  • Vishnu27 on December 29, 2013, 6:22 GMT

    @inthebag: Australia are now third in the ICC rankings, leapfrogging England. That win was humiliating enough, don't you think? I think it it was a comprehensive drubbing, that exposed England as mentally frail & simply not good enough. England had their chance & totally & utterly blew it. They are a hollowed out husky shell of the side that toured here '10-11. No wonder it is SO silent from the usual partisan England fanboys...

  • Fury on December 29, 2013, 6:15 GMT

    The England squad is exhausted. no other team has played as many Test matches over the last 3 years (38), although Australia has run them close at 35 and look at the injuries that work load has provoked in both camps. if South Africa or India had played anything like as many Tests in that time period, I doubt they would still be 1 and 2 in the rankings.

    All credit is due to Lehmann for re-installing Australian pride and self-belief. Flower's clinical efficiency and meticulous preparation now looks brittle and devoid of passion. He has been brilliant in dragging England out of the mire of the Pieterson/Moores debacle but it's clearly time for England to find their own Lehmann for the next stage.

    The loss of Trott cannot be overestimated. He was the glue that bound the batting line up together, mentally as well as technically. he knew it and it proved too much to bear. Swann knew his game was up after his surgery but couldn't resist a last hurrah. All very sad but not the end of days.

  • Vishnu27 on December 29, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    Oh please, nemesisofdevil! Do dry up. Another absolutely absurd statement. Of course, Australia are an absolutely rubbish side & it's just that England keeps on gifting us wins. How could we ever forget. neill99 has the burrow warmed up for you both.

  • on December 29, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    Australian Pace bowling reserves simply outstanding. Pattinson, Starc, Cummins, Jackson Bird sitting out. When Shane Warne was in India commentating, he was speaking highly of Coulter-Nile. Compared to SA bowling reserves of Tsotsobe, McLaren, Kleinveldt, Abbott Australia certainly seems well covered and Lyon certainly far better than any SA spinner presently.

  • on December 29, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    Maybe Swanny was right. The English way is to believe they're invincible after one victory. This has happened not only in cricket: football, rugby etc. They seem to assume that victory is their god-given right. I suggest exchanging the staff responsible for the menu with a 'reality' coach.

  • on December 29, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    @Chris_P "Over 30,000 for each of the first 4 days in Brisbane". But nobody turned up for day 5, and the prospect in Melbourne is not looking any better!

    @Front-Foot-Lunch: I agree. Watto couldn't even get a ton here -- and it's Lyon's fault, for not leaving the tail in long enough.

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    @Jamie McIlwraith. Smith struggling? He did get the MoM just one test ago after rescuing Australia from a precarious position. He is good for the Australia in the long term, this extended run in the team, while we are winning, can only be of benefit to his development. I just wish Hughes was there was there as well.

  • inthebag on December 29, 2013, 6:03 GMT

    Australia should have (I say should have) silenced a few critics in this match. They came back hard from a long way behind, knocked off a 200+ chase for 2 wickets and totally humiliated an England team 2 spots above them in the rankings. They're 4 wins out of 4 games, what else are they supposed to do?

  • on December 29, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    Swann was right. Let us wait and see what reasonthe Poms attribute this series loss to. Good performance by Australia.

  • on December 29, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    Johnson has a "five-for"

    Lyon has a "five-for"

    Will Australia get a "five-for"??

  • geoffw on December 29, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    So here's a coupla calls for the forum:

    1) Poms had most of the luck in Eng - including the big tosses; Aussies fought back after getting (deservedly) slaughtered at Lords. Bell the difference in the series, Broad had his moments. 2) Aus have had most of the luck in Aus - including all 4 tosses so far; Johnson the difference in the series (hard to call on the way in to the series- but undeniable) and Warner having some good moments.

    Broad. Well played mate. Credit where credit is due for your bowling. Cook. Time for captaincy school mate. Doesn't have to be all out attack; can't be all out defence. Stokes. Find of the year for the Poms. Lyon. Red ink for the series, and 16 for not many. How good is that. Johnson. Hasn't his fielding been good. The numbers for his bowling and batting are freaking awesome.

    Looking forward to Sydney - my home test !!!!!!!!

  • BradmanBestEver on December 29, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    So Australia win the 4th test by 8 wickets - a floggerama, a spiflication, a belting, a caning, a whallopping, a thrashing, a hiding and so on. Yet another obliteration in a very one-sided series.

    There is no absolutely no doubt that Australia are better than England - regardless of what happens in the last test.

    Major changes must be made by the clueless English selectors - starting with themselves. The "just serviceable" types of Pietersen and Anderson have had their day and must make way for new blood.

    Swann saw the writing on the wall and jumped the English Titanic early. They did the right thing with the hopeless Prior but more is needed.

    For Australia? Bailey must go and Slik or Maddinson should come in. Tweaking is needed with the batting but that is all.

  • Mervo on December 29, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    DarrylWalker I am not sure what games you are watching but Watson is integral to the Australian success so far this series with bat and ball. Warner is also a second innings run scorer, would you drop him too? Come on realise how lucky we are with Watson. There are no others with the same ability. Hughes will be lucky to spend the rest of his days in the Shield, as an average player and Kawaja like Hughes has consistently failed at test level. Silk and Burns are the future players at 3.

  • on December 29, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    Given the way this match played out, I'm surprised that Chris Rogers did not get the MOM. Looking at the Smart Stats in the right hand side of this column, it's even more unfathomable that his efforts were not rewarded with MOM. The fact is, he's a GINGER... and Mitch the Mo is the flavour of the month. He looked embarrassed to be collecting the award... and rightly so...

  • mike.iz on December 29, 2013, 5:55 GMT

    Brilliant .Clinical display by Australia. England played the best they had done all series but couldn't win the important moments when they where batting in the 2nd innings. They crumbled under pressure big time after the really good start they had.Johnson was brilliant.Chris Rogers was all class today. Dashing knock to the usual workman like effort you ill expect from him. With his solidness and consistency at the top of the order he gives real steel to the Aus batting line up. Watson played really well as number 3 should-controlled aggressive batting. 2 100's & 2 50's in last 5 tests @ no.3. not bad going and does not deserve all the bashing he is getting.Hes a work in progress and showing positive signs of his skills as a test batsman. Australia are just to good at the moment & I see a 5 nil trashing at the end of the Sydney test!!!!

  • foeofdevil on December 29, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    It's never that Australia played well, but it's England which is giving it away in the best suicide phase in every test. If the couple of chances early in the morning of day 4 been used, no wonder an Australian collapse would have showed up. England got to believe firstly, the only thing missing in way to open a door like a key.

  • Shaggy076 on December 29, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    I can't believe people saying our batting won't take us to number one, our bowling is brilliant and a lesser Aussie side almost beat South Africa last year on top of that we haven't lost in South Africa since the early 70's. South Africa's batting isn't as great as people say, they currently have a struggling Peterson, Dumont and Du Plessis trying to hold there spots in the team, they also need to replae Kallis and don't believe Smith is at the best of his game either. There bowling lacks a spinner although there pace attack is class. India have a poor bowling unit and then several Vijay, Dhawan, Sharma and Rahane in the side and its hard to say they are better than our lesser likes. We are a long way of our team ofthe 2000's however we are only a small margin away from today's number one team.

  • nketnz on December 29, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    @Ozzz.z - you mean "their"?

  • Glottalpoly on December 29, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    Based on the series averages, in Sydney, Australia would win the toss and bat first : Aus 1st Innings 364 Eng 1st Innings 204 Aus 2nd Innings 284-5 Dec Eng 2nd Innings 256 Aus wins by 187 runs

  • Vindaliew on December 29, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    I wish Rogers got the MoM. Australia's bowling has been top-notch in this series, and the batsmen have been fallible. A hundred from a batsman is probably worth more than a 5-wicket haul from one of the excellent bowlers. The same probably goes for England, really - both sides bowl well, it's a matter of who bats worse.

  • on December 29, 2013, 5:40 GMT

    Yes, Australia won!! English team finally found barefoot!! Aussies finally got one right.

  • on December 29, 2013, 5:39 GMT

    Well done Australia :-)....

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 5:34 GMT

    @Alexk400. Do people bother watching? You do realize a world record crowd of 91,000 were there on day 1? A world record 2nd day crowd of 77,000. A record crowd for an Adelaide test match. What planet have you come from? Over 30,000 for each of the first 4 days in Brisbane? I mean where else int he world do you get crowds like this for tests? Don't like tests? Then don't bother reading or posting about it. We don't need your comments. Amazing there are so many negative people out there.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    @ BounceTrack_BULLY on (December 29, 2013, 5:05 GMT) you are correct about the Aussie comeback, but it is insignificant compared to India's comeback after being whitewashed by England a couple of times whitewashed in Australia, to come back and draw a test in South Africa must make you proud. if only the cricketing public counted games played in India, people would think they were good.

  • BigDataIsAHoax on December 29, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    After the 4-0 drubbing Australia received from India, this is a remarkable result. They have pounded England into submission at home by playing an aggressive brand of cricket and taking full advantage of the vociferous home support. But, they must not get carried away with this. Their batting is still very vulnerable and may get completely exposed in South Africa in February. Smith and Bailey are not test match material. Watson is hit and miss, far from consistent. Warner and Clarke have been consistent this series and Haddin has always come to the rescue. They are yet to prove their true mettle. The South African series will answer that.

  • inefekt on December 29, 2013, 5:21 GMT

    @neil99 I suggest a bit of research is needed before mouthing off like that, you look pretty silly otherwise. Firstly, I doubt there were many Aussie fans slagging off a team that had just won back the Ashes and were leading a series 3-0, those that were are obviously pretty dumb 'fans'. And as for the (deserved) thrashing the Aussie team received at the hands of India earlier in the year, well that team hardly resembles the one that is currently representing the baggy green now. For a start, that side included out-of-their-depth players such as Henriques, Doherty, Cowan, Khawaja and Maxwell. It was riddled in controversy following the ridiculous 'homework-gate' saga and it had a coach who was not respected by any of the players. Lastly it DID NOT include such players as Rogers, Harris and most importantly, an in form Mitchell Johnson. So as you can see, it was a very different side. I bet you're feeling a little red faced right now?

  • on December 29, 2013, 5:14 GMT

    Good win by Australia and, sadly, England is playing like a team without a shred of morale left. Any talk of Australia closing in on World # 1 ranking is somewhere between optimistic and unrealistic. Our bowling attack is probably as good as any right now. However, the Aussies are still off the pace when compared with South Africa and India when it comes to batting strength. Apart from this excellent 4th innings run-chase, Australia's batting has been brittle, saved in the first dig 4 times in succession by Haddin. Smith is struggling and iffy, and Bailey is simply not up to the standard you'd expect of an Australian Number 6.

  • DarrylWalker on December 29, 2013, 5:13 GMT

    Unfortunate consequence of a great series win is that we are stuck with the serial underperformer Shane Watson at number 3. Runs in the second dig in Perth (gathered in one day slog mode), and now in Melbourne with all the technical flaws on display for all to see, lull us into thinking that he just might be the answer in this batting position. What the likelihood that Watson will make a match winning 150 facing Steyn, Morkel, and Philander, on day 1 after being sent in by G.Smith., on a challenging wicket. That's what nos 3,s do. Very hard to see Watson doing it with his bowling machine derived technique. So we need to endure another series before Aust contemplate moving on, and moving Watson on.

  • RandyOZ on December 29, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    Crushed. This England side is one of the most spineless we have seen, including India last time they were in Australia. The cupboard is bare though so I am not sure how they are going to rectify it.

  • Vishnu27 on December 29, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    Fruit_For_Lunch? Definitely think it's been something a bit stronger than just fruit you've imbibed for lunch. England has been thoroughly smashed pillar to post in every test (381 runs, 218 runs, 150 runs & now an 8 wicket margin)! I would suggest the burrow option that neil99 would be very wise to slip back in to

  • BounceTrack_BULLY on December 29, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    Congratulations Australia!!! They recovered well after 4-0 whitewash in India and hard fought series in UK.

  • RVC-38 on December 29, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    @ dunger.bob on (December 29, 2013, 4:46 GMT) mate, I do not think he would have sent any other team in, after the first three tests of batting first and retaining the ashes why not see how they bowl first (although I did drop my bourbon) we cannot win every toss.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    You'd think that David Cameron would have had a quiet word with the Minister of Magic about transferring Harry Potter from Quidditch to the England cricket Test team!

  • Wasim_Wasamadroota on December 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    @neil99, we Aussies whether winning or losing (we don't play for draws) support our team through thick and thin but we also demand success. For a period we had a support crew guiding our team which were misguided themselves - now we have cricket people making cricket decisions and letting cricketers play cricket, simple really. There is only one team that can lay claim to consistently beating us away and that is India - we still struggle on dustbowls. We have superior records away against every other team. Wipe away your tears.

  • Alexk400 on December 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    Worst Ashes series. Why do even people watch boring one sided chicken games

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on December 29, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    @FFL- only team o/played was your team -Eng- as the score '8 wkt win' usually would suggest so. As to Lyons wkts, Bell/KP are m/order bats - in my opinion at least . Hardly tail enders. Wrong on 2 counts here. Again.

  • dunger.bob on December 29, 2013, 4:53 GMT

    Australia has a chance to book-end England's run of 3 straight with 5-0 blot outs. How symmetrical can you get ! I love symmetry.

  • dinosaurus on December 29, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    I get tired of the commentariat here sledging Australia for their behaviour. Take a look at other teams, for goodness' sake! I can't think of any occasion where behaviour of Aus players has led to the imposition of new rules. England's "Bodyline" caused new rules. The run-out of Ponting by a fleet-footed substitute (still often acclaimed here as a masterstroke) led to re-writing of the "sub" rules. The SL captain Ranatunga was the most high-profile stretcher of the "runner" rule to the point that new rules were brought in and, finally, the concept was abandoned. My guess is that England's antics in this series to slow the Aus bowling rate by shenanigans at the crease will also have to be addressed. And that isn't even mentioning the re-writing of the bowling rules to accommodate (originally) one bowler.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    It just shows that you can't play a part time wicketkeeper in a test match. Bairstow should never be placed in that position as you can see he is so fearful every time the ball comes to him. This, of course, has an effect on the slip cordon and their confidence. It was there to see and expect Prior back at Sydney, unless he retires too.

  • ModernUmpiresPlz on December 29, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    @bren19 I think that one was tongue in cheek.

    @neil99 By Australian conditions do you mean when the sun shines and rain doesn't gift England a draw when they're on the verge of defeat? Australia wasn't anywhere near this bad in England, it was close for a lot of that series and without rain the final tally would have been a lot less flattering for England. As for India, I still feel we would have done better if we'd just stuck with Lyon, and I don't like England's chances there next time without Swann, who was without a doubt a great off spin bowler. Good luck with that, though.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:52 GMT

    @neil99 : Assuming that losing 4-0 away to India makes you the worst team ever (I can't quite follow the logic) this team does not include Phillip Hughes. Or Moises Henriques. Or Usman Khawaja. Or Ed Cowan. Or Xavier Doherty. Or Glenn Maxwell. Or Matthew Wade. Or James Pattinson. In fact, only five players from the last test in India played today. So do try and keep up.

  • Insult_2_Injury on December 29, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    England can't take a trick, you'd have to say that Cook is completely shell shocked. You could see him trying something different in this test match but attacking cricket not only goes against his grain, but also everything the million back room buffoons have been plumping him up with for the last 18 months.

    The irony will be when he is dumped....who the hell in that team will replace him? Does Brearley have a son?

    Well done Australia, well and truly back on track....with still a long way to go. The true sign was yesterday when the Poms, especially Pietersen tried to slow the game down by claiming someone in row Z150 in the nose bleed section had moved their sleeve and Johnson ripped into him. The umpiring was woeful, Pietersen should have been told to be ready when the bowler was.

    Where the Poms are struggling is not just bat and ball & inability to catch, it's the Aussies not allowing them to play at their snails speed. Well done Boof!

  • samincolumbia on December 29, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    @Ozzz.z - Not as comical as your attempt in trying to string together a coherent sentence in english...'there' instead of 'their'.

  • Rowayton on December 29, 2013, 4:49 GMT

    Front-Foot-Lunch, you forget to mention that Prior showed his superiority over Haddin - Prior did not drop a single ball in the whole match. Seriously though folks, do you realise that since the start of the series in England, Cook has been out LBW more often than Watson - and yet the English bowlers still seem upset every time they pitch a ball on leg and Watto doesn't miss it. I used to think Cooks weakness as a captain was that he didn't have plan B - now I'm not sure he has plan A either.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:48 GMT

    Bell, Prior, Cook, Prior, Root, Root, Cook, Pietersen, Stokes, Swann, Panesar, Pietersen, Bell, Stokes, Bresnan, and Broad. By my calculations Lyon took 10 wickets from the top 6, number 7 twice, and numbers 8-11 once each. Hardly only cleaning up the tail. Unless of course you think the entire team are tail enders. Some pommy fans need to think before they type rubbish they haven't checked.

  • Tumbarumbar on December 29, 2013, 4:48 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunch, you are 100% right, the way they have batted in this series Bell and Peiterson are absolute mug tail enders so when you look at it that way Lyon did only pick up bunnies. Love your work, keep your spoon sharp and your stirring counter clockwise, (Coriolis is cacky handed in the north)

  • dalboy12 on December 29, 2013, 4:47 GMT

    Every team that goes to Aussie struggles, you have the fast bowlers. the fast pitches, the sledging, the media, the heat and the crowd all attacking you. But it's always been that way and fair enough it's home advantage - but teams never seem prepared for it. Some teams recover and even go on to beat Aussie --- like SA last time, England last time. Other teams never recover from that all out attack in the first few tests - like India last time they toured and England this time. England just haven't looked like they even want to be there. Would be interesting to see what the result of these two series would've have been if the tours had been reversed. If England has come to Aussie first and then Aussie toured England??? Just an interesting thought to ponder. Anyway looking forward to following the top two teams battling it out tonight - Ind v SA - disgraceful that 3 & 4 can play 10 tests and 1 & 2 only get play a 2 test series.

  • dunger.bob on December 29, 2013, 4:46 GMT

    That's the way to chase a target boys ! I shouldn't forget to add, Thanks for the help England !

    I'm pretty sure Cook thinks the word 'Attack' means a small nail you hang up pictures with. .. Sure, they dropped a couple of catches early but the point is they created two chances! .. He should have been encouraged by that and gone for the jugular, not go back to poor, tired, useless against this lot defensive tactics. Sheesh. If ever there was a time to try and rip and tear this morning was it.

    Anyway, @Mitty2, I was a critic of the send in. I'm happy to eat my words but I still think it was silly. .. against another team we might be crying in our beer today.

  • pat_one_back on December 29, 2013, 4:46 GMT

    Clarke's ambitious decision to send Eng in surely vindicated by Australia romping home in 3.5 days with 8 wickets in hand! More rest for Sydney than Ryno would have dreamed of and huge confidence to be taken for the journey, nothing like a come from behind win let alone a thumping one. The whitewash is surely all bar inevitable now, the only real question left to be asked is can poor old Eng get any worse?

  • disco_bob on December 29, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    @neil99, au contraire, FFL, it is you who have crawled into the burrow. Permanently one would suppose.

  • venkateshkm on December 29, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    England lost because they didnt know that scoring runs fast can get you an advantage. Carberry defended as if he needed to prove Tavare was a quick scorer. Even decent bats like Bresnan and Broad felt "scared". They just defended till they got a ball they couldnt handle. Also the line and lengths bowled by England was a touch off line and touch shorter than the Aus bowled. That wont get your wickets in Aus. As a cricket enthusiast, it was gutting to see them bat yesterday. I switched off when their 5th wicket fell. It was too easy for Aus.

  • Broken_F-ing_Arm on December 29, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    FFL - WHAT?? U must be joking Australia were 2/232 when they won, you can't score 260+ If you're chasing 231. Lyon picked up bell and stokes, hardly tailenders, and has been consistently bowling well throughout the series without to much luck, moral victory - for England, oh dear, the opposite my friend, when you are 0-60 with a 110 run lead in the 3rd innings end up losing by 8 wickets, it couldn't be worse for tour morale. Whilst aus now believe they can win from any position, with also huge confidence boosters to Rogers, Watson and Lyon + @mitty2 as a regular Watson basher on cricinfo, pls at least acknowledge that Watson did everything right that he usually does wrong

  • Biso on December 29, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    @dsig3: You have a very valid point in saying that England are making you look better than what you actually are. In fact during the last Ashes , in England, the Oz batsmen made England look far better than they actually were. But, the difference here is more worrying as English media and supporters will harp on their over-hyped glorious days which in reality had a lot to do with both Australia and India in transition and being "already aged over the hill side" respectively. India are fast completing their transition and Aussie transition will need a few course corrections by the end of the SA tour. I do not see much happening in the England team. It will be back to the old days,bizarre selections, fleeting faces, perpetual chopping, stream of injuries ( most infuriatingly at the wrong times) leading to unbalanced teams. Ultimately, losses and few odd wins with a few or odd talented player unable to shine coz of general mediocrity all around. Can foresee Oz among top sides soon.

  • disco_bob on December 29, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    The best part is that we won the toss on a good batting track and sent England in in sympathy and then chased a drop in MCG record. I was hoping that sending in to bat would stop the 'we haven't won the toss' whinging but the bbc stats say that England haven't won a match this year when they've won the toss.

    Therefore I suggest that at the toss at the SCG, Clarkey let's Cook choose, heads AND tails. Mind you the coin will probably land edge on.

  • scarab666 on December 29, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    England are shot ducks, their time at the top is over and its been an impressive 8 years of results. Australia have not performed that well they have just capitalised on Englands fall from grace, the true test will come in SA. Cook needs to resign as captain…..he's awful under pressure, Carberry has been a failure….so has Root. England have lost this series by not playing Australia at their own game. To have 3 Glenn McGrath wannabes sitting on the bench is the biggest mistake made especially since Anderson has always failed on Oz wickets.

  • whofriggincares on December 29, 2013, 4:34 GMT

    @unbiased_moron, anyone who could label this match as "one dimensional" is seriously deluded and has no idea about cricket, just keep your stupid comments for another forum which involves your team or whatever inferior format you prefer (T/20 presumably). @oze13 , any team containing such a balanced and talented attack , the best batsmen and captain in the world , a wicketkeeper batsmen that has dominated the series with both bat and gloves , a true gutsy shoot me to remove me opener in Rogers and two genuine matchwinner ( albeit inconsistently) batsmen in Warner and Watson doesn't deserve to be labeled the worst team in 25 years. Keep telling yourselves how bad we are, believe me the saffers will be doing their homework and hoping everything goes right or they know we are good enough to beat them over there, it will take some doing but if we play like we have in this series it is possible. England are weak and pathetic compared to SA , but thrashing them will give us confidence.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:30 GMT

    It appears the Poms are sinking true and fast, listless and hapless and aimless. I wish the supposedly sure footed English Premier who think that English cricket is the greatest has seen it all. Since CHOGM English are sinking in all areas. But hope the guys will try to resurrect them for at least the final test and it will be a herculean task. Good luck Poms.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    As I went to bed with CricInfo's display showing a Bairstow 6 around 175-5 I felt England were finally showing up to the party. Better late than never. I thought I had a nightmare when in fact I subconsciously saw a brief, glowing light of the score. it wasn't a nightmare but a collapse so feeble that will leave psychological scars on this entire team. Australia fully deserve their success but boy, how we've gift wrapped this series instead of a child being asked for a present on Christmas morning. Utterly contemptible performance from England.

  • DylanBrah on December 29, 2013, 4:27 GMT

    Looks like that 5-0 scoreline most England fans (including Ian Botham) predicted is about to become reality... Oh wait...

  • Fruit_For_Lunch on December 29, 2013, 4:27 GMT

    Australia have just been lucky. If we'd won all four tosses we'd be leading 4-0, not Australia.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    I really don't understand removing broad out of the attack immediately after a catch was dropped from his bowling. Why would Root bowl so many overs ahead of Panesar? If Root is so better then ENG could hv played another batsman in place of Panesar. Has flower told Cook no point having 3 or more slips at the start of a new day? Is there a rule Bell should never bat at 3 despite how ever many times Root fails? Would anyone bowl Ben more overs than Broad when u hv 201 to defend but take ten strong Aussie wickets?

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    After their disgusting lack of respect in the English leg for both the Australian team and the public the English are now whining about fair play and big egos. Add to that literally months and months worth of useless dross from the braindead cheerleaders and it's no surprise that the Australians have less than zero sympathy for the Pom plight. #5-0.

  • Clavers on December 29, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    @MaruthuDelft: What was "easy" about the circumstances in which Watson batted today? A fourth innings wicket, the match on the line, England coming of a good bowling performance in the first innings, and Australia chasing a target that was higher than they'd made in the first dig.

    He has plenty of history in performing in difficult circumstances. Recall that when he was first picked as an opener midway through the 2009 Ashes, a series in which Australia was beaten, he scored half-centuries in his first three innings. In first-class cricket he has scored a double century in a Shield final. And in the T20 World Cup he was Man of the Match in almost every match while the rest of the team struggled.

    Perhaps Watson's batting style, technically very good but nonetheless laced with plenty of slogging, makes the batting look easy, or the opposition bowlers look impotent, whenever he makes a score.

    By the way, his average for his most recent five tests is now 55.0.

  • bren19 on December 29, 2013, 4:24 GMT

    @front foot lunch - sneaked home? The second innings was 231 with 8 wickets in hand - you are kidding - Australia could have chased down 400!!

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 4:23 GMT

    @ScottStevo. I know you think Watto is the 2nd coming, but an average of 31.11 since the last Ashes down under just shows he isn't cutting it, given it included 83no & a ton in Perth. Give anyone enough chances & the odds say they will perform from time to time. He will need to perform these next 4 tests (incl) Sth Africa like this & under pressure to prove his knockers wrong, but seriously doubt it given his history & his age. But, I wish him all the best because he certainly has the talent.

  • Front_foot_cyber_bully_aka_Milepost on December 29, 2013, 4:15 GMT

    I see the so called Australia fans have crawled out of their burrows. It was only a few days ago you were slagging your team off - typical of fair weather supporters. And if you look a little further back, this was the worst Australian team ever after getting smashed 4-0 in India.

    This series has shown that Australian can only win with home advantage -we know they get pummelled away, whilst England can't play fast bowling at least they can win home and away as the beating of India proved.

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:15 GMT

    Remember Churchill's words, England. "Failure is never fatal. It's COURAGE that counts." Go for it in Sydney!

  • on December 29, 2013, 4:13 GMT

    Great win by Australia who looked beaten after day 2. Will further demoralise England. 5-0 looks very possible now. Pleased for Rogers, deserves his moment.

  • ODI_BestFormOfCricket on December 29, 2013, 4:12 GMT

    finally eng manages 7-0, hoping 8-0 in the next match.

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 4:10 GMT

    @ samincolumbi. Don;t take the rantings of very few as gospel, we are far off it, we still got a lot of boxes to tick off before we get there, especially in the batting, but the bowling & keeping depth is sound. Rogers, btw, needs to be applauded for his showing, it should silence his knockers. This guy has been delivering for years.

  • disco_bob on December 29, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    @MaruthuDelft, I'm not a big Watto fan but you can't call his knock here 'easy circumstances', although in the end he made it look easy, with Warner gone cheaply another fail from Watto could have led to a mini collapse and suddenly 231 could look like a difficult total.

  • Ozzz.z on December 29, 2013, 4:04 GMT

    Didn't take Indian fans to get there Two Bobs Worth, it's my comical part of the day reading there comments.

  • disco_bob on December 29, 2013, 4:03 GMT

    England have plenty of positives they can take with them to the SCG, like er... there's only one more Test to play.

  • xtrafalgarx on December 29, 2013, 4:01 GMT

    @Samincolumbia" Believe what you want, but both the players and fans know that our batting isn't good enough at the moment to be the best in the world.

  • Ozzz.z on December 29, 2013, 4:00 GMT

    Great Game Australia. Can't wait till Sydney. Grate to Lyon for his 5fa, Mitch J for his timber rattlers and helmet kisses, and mighty Rogers on a great first and second Innings. Keep it up Australia.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:58 GMT

    Ranganathan Sundararajan Ranganathan Sundararajan a few seconds ago near Chennai Horrible show by England, who gifted the game in about 30 mints. Pietersen was the only exception and to some extent Cook in the second innings. Both Flower and Cook must give up their post gracefully before they are sacked. Four tall fast bowlers were specially brought for this Ashes who are not used at all, but relied on Bresnan who is a disaster. Warne is right in his comments that Cook is a very unimaginative and defensive fellow, though he is a good opener. Even KP in the first 2 Tests threw his wicket after getting a decent start. a few seconds ago · Like Ranganathan Sundararajan Write a comment...

  • Front-Foot-Lunch on December 29, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    Australia were unable to pass England's first innings total even though they had two goes at it, so while Australia just sneaked this game after being comprehensively outplayed, (especially Lyon who can only get cheap tail enders) England get the moral victory.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    never imagined this result for this ashes, complete humiliation for Englan, 5-0 most likely result

  • samincolumbia on December 29, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    The world's best team (according to their fans and commentators) on track for a 5-0 whitewash. They won't be bringing up India's 0-8 record for the next few years for sure. hehe.

  • mixters on December 29, 2013, 3:45 GMT

    I guess this is the difference between a real 4-0 score line and a fantasy one as our missing friend front foot lunge will be feeling right now. A great display of POSITIVE cricket a lesson for captain Cook. You cannot just sit back and try to bore the other team out of the game, and the crowd out of the ground. 271,000 people in 4 days!!! what was the biggest crowd for a test in England this year? I suppose that also destroys the other desperate english supporter comment about crowd numbers dose it not??? What will they think of next?

  • Jeeves_ on December 29, 2013, 3:44 GMT

    Where to now for England? Maybe Marcus Trescothick or Andrew Strauss can make a comeback?

  • jimbond on December 29, 2013, 3:43 GMT

    I was thinking that 230 on this wicket given the first innings scores, was a tough target. Yet one felt the English players gave up too early, they did not believe that they could win this match. This self doubt is going to make them cut and chop and ruin a team that was doing quite well. Three of the main crew are already damaged or quit. Johnson and co have done such a thorough mental demolition job that Lyon could enjoy his five. It would be interesting if Australia allow their main bowlers to rest and allow others like Faulkner, Bird, Pattinson, Starc etc to enjoy being part of an English massacre.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:43 GMT

    Australia won by 8 wickets

  • MaruthuDelft on December 29, 2013, 3:40 GMT

    Ha Ha Ha, You can't get rid of Watson until you lose in SA. Hang on..No...Aus is good enough to beat SA but your Watson...He looks capable but only scores in easy circumstances..My be he will prove all wrong in SA because he is capable.

  • oze13 on December 29, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    Absolutely woeful from England. Everyone single one of them should hang their heads in shame. This is the worst Australian team there has been for more than 25 years and to be losing 4-0 to them is a national disgrace. Also, Cook's captaincy is awful as Warnie has said all along.

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:37 GMT

    Lol.

    AUSTRALIA - 57/2589

    ENGLAND - 80/1837

    Australia lead by 23 wickets & 752 runs.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    @CicketAus pulled out an emphatic win over @ECB_Cricket to take Ashes 4-0.. Won by 8 wickets.. You guys are rockin.. ROGER that England.. #LoveTowardsAustralia..

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 3:35 GMT

    Calling Beefy! How's the foot in mouth going, pal? @Hammond, seeing you have dropped out of sight since the "bog average" side started to do well, any comments? No comments from our friend, FFL? No disrespect to the true English cricket followers who post intelligently, believe me, after the last 3 Ashes campaigns, I know how you feel, but seriously, your side isn't as bad as many make out. This test, up to the 4th day had a lot of swings to both sides & was a contest. Kudos to the crowd for the great atmosphere.

  • ModernUmpiresPlz on December 29, 2013, 3:34 GMT

    Oh England.

    Why did they swap Bairstow for Prior again?

    Also, how long will Cook remain captain? That was pathetic work. For once Shane Warne's badgering in the commentary box was undeniably spot on.

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:33 GMT

    Oh and we're are all the know it alls who were bagging Clarke for bowling first? England's first innings efforts so far had all been dreadful, their confidence is as down as it possibly could be and now the team divided - for all it mattered Clarke could have declared for 0/0 and we still would've won. Anyway there's a slight suspicion that Clarke bowled first to prove how little impact the toss had in the first three tests - and to counter our terrible recent chasing record. Bowling first generally means a loss on drop in wickets (the highest chase on a drop in at the G is under 200 I think?) so well done to Aus for a complete domination and credit to England for taking no half-measures in being as terrible as possible. Ireland would be a more competitive opponent.

  • unbiased_referee on December 29, 2013, 3:32 GMT

    When Michael Clarke won the toss and invited ENG to bat first, I thought innings' defeat for ENG was imminent because AUS would have to bat only once. So this is the only consolation ENG can take home from this test match. I have loads of empathy for ENG & AUS fans to keep supporting utterly one-dimensional Cricket such as this as frequently as every six months [every 18 months involuntarily]!

  • ScottStevo on December 29, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    To all those slating Watson 2 days ago with rubbish like, he's not good enough at 3, or he can't perform under pressure - take that! That was a beautiful innings from Watson today and between he and the magnificent Rogers, they've won us this test match with 2 splendid innings. Rogers rode his luck early doors, but he looked magnificent today and was a great calming influence on Watson too. Excellent knocks boys!!! Eng in real turmoil...

  • lillee4PM on December 29, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    As England sink under the weight of their own stupidity the Barmy Army sing along like the band playing on the sinking Titanic. Hilarious! Massive win for Australia, well done boys.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:25 GMT

    At the end of the first innings of each team, England was holding all aces. Within a day OZ reversed the fortunes and were having one leg on the door and ensured that the door is not shut. Chris and Shane opened the door wide open with positive cricket and England were well and truly out of the game. Great show of strength and character by Auzzies.

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    Worth noting: Rogers has played at two very different tempos as required in this Test. Sign of a very good opener and if only he weren't short-sighted and colour blind! I reckon he scored 50 of his runs through third man (credit to Cook for keeping that region open - such a pattern for England, they are just gifting us these tests!) and that his strike rate of 70 compares to the first innings strike rate of 40 shows how he can adapt to the match situation. Apparently Rogers' century was also the last time an aussie scored a 4th innings match winning century since Punter's in 2006!

    Oh and the stat that makes me so so happy:

    Centuries update: Australia 8 England 0 New Zealand 1 South Africa 0

    Well done England!

  • Biggus on December 29, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    Tragicomic stuff from England today. Seldom have I seen a team which looks so good on paper have such a dramatic meltdown. Seldom have I seen a Test Captain so unsuited to the job as Alastair Cook, and I'm reminded by the examples of Graeme Yallop and Kim Hughes that a good batsman does not necessarily a good captain make. The test of a captain is how he functions when his team is in trouble and Cook's on field tactics have been woeful, real 'Deer caught in the headlights' stuff. Who would have thought I'd feel sorry for Stuart Broad, but after Bairstow didn't even go for the early edge from Rogers I felt his pain just a little. Anyway, great stuff from Rogers, pack your bags for SA mate, I for one am a big fan of as little stability at the top. Commiserations to England fans, it's tough when your team has a complete loss of plot. Time for a new captain and a little house cleaning IMHO.

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    This has been an amazing game - and by far and away the most humiliating defeat for England. 4 - nil, cop that! It's been very good to watch for the last three days - couldn't go day 1.

    What typified Cook's usual terrible captaincy was this: it was around 90 mins gone on day 4 - and Broad and Panesar have bowled two overs between them. And finally when Panesar comes on (albeit second spell in the day) - he gets a wicket! Although his captaincy for Haddin and Lyon in the tenth wicket partnership was the worst with just a slip in the in field. To think that some English on here (optic, FFL, and a few others) actually thought that Cook wasn't a quarter as good as a captain as MC?

    Just heard two lovely stats: #1 No team in test history has been a 100 or more ahead with all wickets standing in the 3rd innings of a game and lost by 9 wickets. Lol England. #2 Rogers has played the highest ever 4th innings total by an Australian. Well done to the adopted Vic!

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    Next 5 years no need to look beyond Rogers and Warner to open.. Phil Hughes can use this time to hone his technique to play strokes down the line and not just horizontally..

  • IndianEagle on December 29, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    after months of training in aus against FC team, eng even failed to draw a single game. england are totally out of gas, they need big break about 1 year to refresh their body and mind. But india and oz are playing throughout the year.

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 2:44 GMT

    This should silence the Roger knockers. He has consistently scored runs wherever he has played & his (& Haddin's) experience have been invaluable to Clarke & this run chase. Great stuff, Buck!

  • aussie1993 on December 29, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    congratulations to aussie for their brilliant performance what a innings by rogers why y were poms saying that we will grab 10 wickets tomorrow

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on December 29, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    Lunch time,Aussies rolling smoothly to the v near destinat. like a unstoppable train.Eng look like barely know what hit them. Barely hour or 1/2 to the inevit. think so. Time to get champagne out of fridge.Before it waiting for Rogers chanceless 100.

  • on December 29, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    England is trying very hard to go from bad to worse. It shows in their body language. And in Africa, the Southerners only want " draw" as the outcome. The second test is headed that way as well given the slow and lethargic run rate on a very docile pitch. Can't understand their mindset at all.

  • dsig3 on December 29, 2013, 1:57 GMT

    This England team are an absolute disgrace. At least we had a go when you beat us in England but this is pathetic. Batsmen going home early and players retiring mid tour. We know you can play better than this. You are making us look better than we actually are which is disturbing. You have had one good day for the entire series. What a farce.

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  • dsig3 on December 29, 2013, 1:57 GMT

    This England team are an absolute disgrace. At least we had a go when you beat us in England but this is pathetic. Batsmen going home early and players retiring mid tour. We know you can play better than this. You are making us look better than we actually are which is disturbing. You have had one good day for the entire series. What a farce.

  • on December 29, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    England is trying very hard to go from bad to worse. It shows in their body language. And in Africa, the Southerners only want " draw" as the outcome. The second test is headed that way as well given the slow and lethargic run rate on a very docile pitch. Can't understand their mindset at all.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on December 29, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    Lunch time,Aussies rolling smoothly to the v near destinat. like a unstoppable train.Eng look like barely know what hit them. Barely hour or 1/2 to the inevit. think so. Time to get champagne out of fridge.Before it waiting for Rogers chanceless 100.

  • aussie1993 on December 29, 2013, 2:42 GMT

    congratulations to aussie for their brilliant performance what a innings by rogers why y were poms saying that we will grab 10 wickets tomorrow

  • Chris_P on December 29, 2013, 2:44 GMT

    This should silence the Roger knockers. He has consistently scored runs wherever he has played & his (& Haddin's) experience have been invaluable to Clarke & this run chase. Great stuff, Buck!

  • IndianEagle on December 29, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    after months of training in aus against FC team, eng even failed to draw a single game. england are totally out of gas, they need big break about 1 year to refresh their body and mind. But india and oz are playing throughout the year.

  • on December 29, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    Next 5 years no need to look beyond Rogers and Warner to open.. Phil Hughes can use this time to hone his technique to play strokes down the line and not just horizontally..

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    This has been an amazing game - and by far and away the most humiliating defeat for England. 4 - nil, cop that! It's been very good to watch for the last three days - couldn't go day 1.

    What typified Cook's usual terrible captaincy was this: it was around 90 mins gone on day 4 - and Broad and Panesar have bowled two overs between them. And finally when Panesar comes on (albeit second spell in the day) - he gets a wicket! Although his captaincy for Haddin and Lyon in the tenth wicket partnership was the worst with just a slip in the in field. To think that some English on here (optic, FFL, and a few others) actually thought that Cook wasn't a quarter as good as a captain as MC?

    Just heard two lovely stats: #1 No team in test history has been a 100 or more ahead with all wickets standing in the 3rd innings of a game and lost by 9 wickets. Lol England. #2 Rogers has played the highest ever 4th innings total by an Australian. Well done to the adopted Vic!

  • Biggus on December 29, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    Tragicomic stuff from England today. Seldom have I seen a team which looks so good on paper have such a dramatic meltdown. Seldom have I seen a Test Captain so unsuited to the job as Alastair Cook, and I'm reminded by the examples of Graeme Yallop and Kim Hughes that a good batsman does not necessarily a good captain make. The test of a captain is how he functions when his team is in trouble and Cook's on field tactics have been woeful, real 'Deer caught in the headlights' stuff. Who would have thought I'd feel sorry for Stuart Broad, but after Bairstow didn't even go for the early edge from Rogers I felt his pain just a little. Anyway, great stuff from Rogers, pack your bags for SA mate, I for one am a big fan of as little stability at the top. Commiserations to England fans, it's tough when your team has a complete loss of plot. Time for a new captain and a little house cleaning IMHO.

  • Mitty2 on December 29, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    Worth noting: Rogers has played at two very different tempos as required in this Test. Sign of a very good opener and if only he weren't short-sighted and colour blind! I reckon he scored 50 of his runs through third man (credit to Cook for keeping that region open - such a pattern for England, they are just gifting us these tests!) and that his strike rate of 70 compares to the first innings strike rate of 40 shows how he can adapt to the match situation. Apparently Rogers' century was also the last time an aussie scored a 4th innings match winning century since Punter's in 2006!

    Oh and the stat that makes me so so happy:

    Centuries update: Australia 8 England 0 New Zealand 1 South Africa 0

    Well done England!