The Ashes 2013-14 January 4, 2014

Flower gets backing of ECB into 2015

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David Collier, the ECB chief executive, has given a strong indication that Andy Flower will remain as team director after the Ashes series.

There has been debate around Flower's future with England lurching towards a 5-0 Ashes whitewash. He has been reluctant to discuss his plans but did indicate after the Melbourne Test that he wanted to be part of rebuilding the England side.

Collier, who is currently in Australia for conclusion of the Ashes, told Sky Sports he sees Flower, who no longer oversees the day-to-day running of the limited-overs sides, remaining in his position until at least 2015 when the Ashes are next contested in England and wants the Test partnership with Alastair Cook to continue.

"We need that experience," he said. "When you go through a transitional period you need somebody with knowledge, somebody who knows our system, somebody who works with all of our key coaches, Andy has all of those attributes and more and I'm sure he'll do a good job leading us into 2015. Alastair fully deserves the support of Team England and we look forward to both Alastair and Andy leading us to success in the future."

Cook has received some strong criticism for his on-field tactics during the series while he has not scored a hundred, with one innings remaining, across the ten Ashes Tests of the back-to-back series.

"People grow into the job, captains mature, players mature, it will take some time for people to reach their absolute pinnacle," Collier said. "We were absolutely convinced that he was the right man at the time and we're still convinced today."

Collier also said there would not be such an extensive review of English cricket as took place after the 2006-07 whitewash when the Schofield report was commissioned. "We're not going to do a review of that nature, but we will do a full debrief and learn the lessons we need to from this tour.

"We have to look back and reflect on what has gone right and what has gone wrong and learn lessons from it. We've had a great run coming into this series. In 13 Test matches coming into the series we'd won 10 and drew three. It had been a good year to start with, but clearly we need to re-stock for 2014."

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  • on January 6, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    Most coaches take the hit and are sacked after a marquee loss like this one. For once, I think the right decision is being made. It is a difficult decision too given how badly England lost this series. This decision will pay dividends and in a year people will look back at this non-decision as the key factor in the turn around!

  • on January 6, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    For a "great player" in the team, the tattoo of the three lions on the upper-arm seems to be just a part of the re-branding exercise, to go with the product re-positioning. Any half-a-penny worth of a Brand Consultant will tell you that!. And, not a genuine mark of pride for the country for which he is playing.

    Along with the"headmaster", he should also go to improve the atmosphere within the team. With these two drops, half the cleansing work will be done.

  • on January 6, 2014, 15:10 GMT

    @Scott McHugh on (January 4, 2014, 9:33 GMT):

    You cut the cake into the right size -- a biscuit! Good judgement, Scott; unlike ECB's.

    For some, Pounds & Shillings are more important than Pride! For those, who move from country to country in search of the "Pot of Gold", it certainly is!

  • cricwar4184 on January 6, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    ECB afriad of Andy, if they remove him from coach, he may moved to India as a coach and India tour to England is very near.

  • DaisonGarvasis on January 6, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    ECB backs Flower. ECB had dropped KP remember? Doesnt mean they are right. Just means they can do it.

  • ultimatecricketguru on January 6, 2014, 8:13 GMT

    Flower should remain as head coach..He has brought stability to the english squad over the years..But cook should be removed from captaincy..Hes way too defensive just like his batting..Stuart Broad should be made captain..He is the real fighter in this squad..He will try everything possible for a win..Thats the quality that makes a good captain..With burden of captaincy gone cook can focus on his batting and thats a plus for the side..

  • on January 6, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    Commitment & authoritarianism are two very different perspectives of the same attributes. A few have commented about Flower's commitment; the same way Michael Clarke to comment on Arthur's. I see it differently. So, are a large majority of the genuine cricket fans.

    Impact on the players, and consequently what they produce are better criteria to judge the desirability of the support staff. Not the way the players are shuffled around,or the amount of home work given to them. I am saying this with all the seriousness I can muster & also rethinking; "Am I also getting into a witch hunting exercise? No, certainly not."

  • on January 6, 2014, 5:07 GMT

    Flower is quite similar to Mickey Arthur, at least in one respect. Both, with their personal style, seem to create a dull & tense atmosphere around them. It is not particularly helpful in keeping up the morale of the players. Contrast the style of these with that of Lehman and what he achieved with almost the same team, by just with an entirely different style and its morale boosting impact on the players

    I personally think, Flower must go. Perhaps England's batting & bowling coaches too.

    I was also looking at the bowling coaches of Australia & South Africa. In addition to whatever they may be doing at the nets, or in the dressing room, they are almost always there at the boundary line talking to their lead bowlers, in between the overs. I don't see that happening either with England or India. In that respect, Eric Simons, at least showed some improvement towards the end of his term with BCCI, though his judgment about his bowlers, used to go off the mark!

  • Moppa on January 5, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Personally I think Flower should go and England need a major change at the top. However, I don't think Collier's comments preclude that. In fact, its a classic example of the vague comments sports adminstrators make when asked about coaches' tenure. The classic in Australian football is that the board is 'right behind' the coach. Usually this means 'with knives' because they're gone within a few weeks. Collier has left himself plenty of wriggle room and with new man Downton in the job I wouldn't rule out a change before the northern summer.

  • xylo on January 5, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    While Flower has done a great job, what England needs is a fresh approach. Under Flower, though England were winning, they were more like minions under Gru, except that minions show some emotion, while the England team were more like robots. What England need is some flair to turn around a unit that still looks terrific on paper. Look what Lehmann did for the Aussies.

  • on January 6, 2014, 18:03 GMT

    Most coaches take the hit and are sacked after a marquee loss like this one. For once, I think the right decision is being made. It is a difficult decision too given how badly England lost this series. This decision will pay dividends and in a year people will look back at this non-decision as the key factor in the turn around!

  • on January 6, 2014, 15:20 GMT

    For a "great player" in the team, the tattoo of the three lions on the upper-arm seems to be just a part of the re-branding exercise, to go with the product re-positioning. Any half-a-penny worth of a Brand Consultant will tell you that!. And, not a genuine mark of pride for the country for which he is playing.

    Along with the"headmaster", he should also go to improve the atmosphere within the team. With these two drops, half the cleansing work will be done.

  • on January 6, 2014, 15:10 GMT

    @Scott McHugh on (January 4, 2014, 9:33 GMT):

    You cut the cake into the right size -- a biscuit! Good judgement, Scott; unlike ECB's.

    For some, Pounds & Shillings are more important than Pride! For those, who move from country to country in search of the "Pot of Gold", it certainly is!

  • cricwar4184 on January 6, 2014, 13:20 GMT

    ECB afriad of Andy, if they remove him from coach, he may moved to India as a coach and India tour to England is very near.

  • DaisonGarvasis on January 6, 2014, 12:06 GMT

    ECB backs Flower. ECB had dropped KP remember? Doesnt mean they are right. Just means they can do it.

  • ultimatecricketguru on January 6, 2014, 8:13 GMT

    Flower should remain as head coach..He has brought stability to the english squad over the years..But cook should be removed from captaincy..Hes way too defensive just like his batting..Stuart Broad should be made captain..He is the real fighter in this squad..He will try everything possible for a win..Thats the quality that makes a good captain..With burden of captaincy gone cook can focus on his batting and thats a plus for the side..

  • on January 6, 2014, 5:16 GMT

    Commitment & authoritarianism are two very different perspectives of the same attributes. A few have commented about Flower's commitment; the same way Michael Clarke to comment on Arthur's. I see it differently. So, are a large majority of the genuine cricket fans.

    Impact on the players, and consequently what they produce are better criteria to judge the desirability of the support staff. Not the way the players are shuffled around,or the amount of home work given to them. I am saying this with all the seriousness I can muster & also rethinking; "Am I also getting into a witch hunting exercise? No, certainly not."

  • on January 6, 2014, 5:07 GMT

    Flower is quite similar to Mickey Arthur, at least in one respect. Both, with their personal style, seem to create a dull & tense atmosphere around them. It is not particularly helpful in keeping up the morale of the players. Contrast the style of these with that of Lehman and what he achieved with almost the same team, by just with an entirely different style and its morale boosting impact on the players

    I personally think, Flower must go. Perhaps England's batting & bowling coaches too.

    I was also looking at the bowling coaches of Australia & South Africa. In addition to whatever they may be doing at the nets, or in the dressing room, they are almost always there at the boundary line talking to their lead bowlers, in between the overs. I don't see that happening either with England or India. In that respect, Eric Simons, at least showed some improvement towards the end of his term with BCCI, though his judgment about his bowlers, used to go off the mark!

  • Moppa on January 5, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Personally I think Flower should go and England need a major change at the top. However, I don't think Collier's comments preclude that. In fact, its a classic example of the vague comments sports adminstrators make when asked about coaches' tenure. The classic in Australian football is that the board is 'right behind' the coach. Usually this means 'with knives' because they're gone within a few weeks. Collier has left himself plenty of wriggle room and with new man Downton in the job I wouldn't rule out a change before the northern summer.

  • xylo on January 5, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    While Flower has done a great job, what England needs is a fresh approach. Under Flower, though England were winning, they were more like minions under Gru, except that minions show some emotion, while the England team were more like robots. What England need is some flair to turn around a unit that still looks terrific on paper. Look what Lehmann did for the Aussies.

  • on January 4, 2014, 21:06 GMT

    I feel Flower will only be remembered for this series and not all the hard work he has done since 2009. Like Fletcher, remembered for the 06/07 series but not the amazing work hid from 1999.

  • on January 4, 2014, 20:11 GMT

    its unbelievable that the ECB even has to announce they will continue with Flower as coach. The English cricket team has been very, very successful until this Ashes but you cant blame the coach for the lack of discipline and courage England has been showing.

    The ones to blame are the ones with the experience and the selectors.. KP has been disgusting this series, throwing his wicket away several times and then following it up by explaining in the media the batsmen on the other end weren't real batsmen..

    Who has been very poor, maybe not as much with his batting is Cook. His captaincy has been very negative, setting fields to defend the run rate..

    Jimmy Anderson has been doing alright but performing under par.. Bowling way to short and defensive. Like they have been explaning in the Ashes Verdict on Sky Sports, England, from all the balls bowled, only 6 % has been hitting the stumps!

    Ones to blame are the players for showing lack of discipline and not taking responsibility!

  • mukesh_LOVE.cricket on January 4, 2014, 19:52 GMT

    Really bad call from ECB , flower as coach and cook as captain will spell disaster for England team , nothing much to say about cook the captain , he is simply not imaginative but whats even more serious is captaincy burden is seriously affecting his batting , as a batsman he may be boring but when he gets going he takes the shine off , gives England the huge scores and grind down opposition bowlers , the guy is a run making machine and as for flower his methods has had their time , he will suitable for a young inexperienced side (like SL) but not for teams like England

  • on January 4, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    I think England should be confident with Flower, but not as confident in stating he will lead the team into 2015. Give him 6 more months and see how the team go. Definitely the players themselves need to be looked at. The number 3 position needs to be seen to especially, I dont think bell or root can take it on. James Taylor, Moeen Ali or even Nick Compton can be looked at for the number 3 position. Also the wicket keepers position needs to be seen, I personally feel that keep going with Bairstow for a little while to give him more confidence and help him improve his glove work. Other than him I would see steve davis or jos Butler to take the role.

  • on January 4, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    It has to be wrong, in terms of business process, for Collier to issue a vote of confidence while the train-wreck is still unfinished. Reappointment of the captain and coach should follow an examination of their performance by the Managing Director of Cricket, the recently appointed Paul Downton. In his place, I would either want my job description re-affirmed (to include these matters) or resign, having realised that my appointment was a charade. In any case, it cannot be that the board has already formally reviewed the evidence and concluded no-change is the best strategy, or Collier wouldn't be announcing that the review would be less thorough than in 2007. And if he already knows the answers, why do even a limited review?

  • SDHM on January 4, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Absolute joke. Has done a wonderful job for England but the team has been in decline for the past two years - magnificent win in India aside, although that appears to have been a red herring - but it's quite clear his methods are no longer working and the atmosphere he's created has lead to a bunch of players playing without any sense of freedom and joy, and unable to think for themselves. Saker's busy ruining our bowlers, Gooch the same with the batsmen. And then Cook's captaincy brings it all to a lovely head. We know he's no tactician but amazingly he seems to be regressing on that front, and if he's lost his ability to lead from the front then what on Earth does he have going for him? Let him concentrate on his batting, Bell as captain. May be a bit football-esque to cry 'sack the lot' and it feels slightly wrong, but in this case, I think it's wholly justified. And not just wholly justified, but entirely needed. Bring in Gillespie, Thorpe and Welch and watch the young guns soar.

  • Yorks1 on January 4, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    The great tennis player John McEnroe, who probably knows nothing about cricket but much about competing at the highest level, got it right when he screamed "You cannot be serious"!

  • on January 4, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    What an amazing commitment given that Flower's style has been the root cause of the disaster - suffocating the team in micromanagement. As for Cook I would have thought that it was obvious to even the casual cricket supporter that Cook's tactical appreciation of the game was very limited, and being captain has destroyed his own batting.

  • on January 4, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    Good news

  • on January 4, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    One of the reason that england are playing so badly is the planing of the tour, They should waited for a couple of years, not play Australia in a coupe of months. where some of the players have test matches in Australia, or been out classis by a better unit. Where there have gone home and retired from international cricket...

  • kamrankarim on January 4, 2014, 9:57 GMT

    I think this is a great news, we must not forget he done a great job, Look back England's winnings in last few years since he took over, We should fully support Andy:

  • on January 4, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    That takes the biscuit. If Flower has any pride, he walks as soon as this final ball is bowled. It can't be and isn't all his fault, but it happened on his watch. Simple.

    The ECB themselves aren't without blame, however, scheduling matches left, right and centre (why have we got so many grounds needing an England pay day just to survive?) and denying England players the chance to go back to their counties, to raise standards in domestic cricket and to become more visible to the public.

  • MaruthuDelft on January 4, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    Thats That. England will fail until 2015.

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  • MaruthuDelft on January 4, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    Thats That. England will fail until 2015.

  • on January 4, 2014, 9:33 GMT

    That takes the biscuit. If Flower has any pride, he walks as soon as this final ball is bowled. It can't be and isn't all his fault, but it happened on his watch. Simple.

    The ECB themselves aren't without blame, however, scheduling matches left, right and centre (why have we got so many grounds needing an England pay day just to survive?) and denying England players the chance to go back to their counties, to raise standards in domestic cricket and to become more visible to the public.

  • kamrankarim on January 4, 2014, 9:57 GMT

    I think this is a great news, we must not forget he done a great job, Look back England's winnings in last few years since he took over, We should fully support Andy:

  • on January 4, 2014, 10:28 GMT

    One of the reason that england are playing so badly is the planing of the tour, They should waited for a couple of years, not play Australia in a coupe of months. where some of the players have test matches in Australia, or been out classis by a better unit. Where there have gone home and retired from international cricket...

  • on January 4, 2014, 10:44 GMT

    Good news

  • on January 4, 2014, 11:37 GMT

    What an amazing commitment given that Flower's style has been the root cause of the disaster - suffocating the team in micromanagement. As for Cook I would have thought that it was obvious to even the casual cricket supporter that Cook's tactical appreciation of the game was very limited, and being captain has destroyed his own batting.

  • Yorks1 on January 4, 2014, 12:13 GMT

    The great tennis player John McEnroe, who probably knows nothing about cricket but much about competing at the highest level, got it right when he screamed "You cannot be serious"!

  • SDHM on January 4, 2014, 12:31 GMT

    Absolute joke. Has done a wonderful job for England but the team has been in decline for the past two years - magnificent win in India aside, although that appears to have been a red herring - but it's quite clear his methods are no longer working and the atmosphere he's created has lead to a bunch of players playing without any sense of freedom and joy, and unable to think for themselves. Saker's busy ruining our bowlers, Gooch the same with the batsmen. And then Cook's captaincy brings it all to a lovely head. We know he's no tactician but amazingly he seems to be regressing on that front, and if he's lost his ability to lead from the front then what on Earth does he have going for him? Let him concentrate on his batting, Bell as captain. May be a bit football-esque to cry 'sack the lot' and it feels slightly wrong, but in this case, I think it's wholly justified. And not just wholly justified, but entirely needed. Bring in Gillespie, Thorpe and Welch and watch the young guns soar.

  • on January 4, 2014, 15:18 GMT

    It has to be wrong, in terms of business process, for Collier to issue a vote of confidence while the train-wreck is still unfinished. Reappointment of the captain and coach should follow an examination of their performance by the Managing Director of Cricket, the recently appointed Paul Downton. In his place, I would either want my job description re-affirmed (to include these matters) or resign, having realised that my appointment was a charade. In any case, it cannot be that the board has already formally reviewed the evidence and concluded no-change is the best strategy, or Collier wouldn't be announcing that the review would be less thorough than in 2007. And if he already knows the answers, why do even a limited review?

  • on January 4, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    I think England should be confident with Flower, but not as confident in stating he will lead the team into 2015. Give him 6 more months and see how the team go. Definitely the players themselves need to be looked at. The number 3 position needs to be seen to especially, I dont think bell or root can take it on. James Taylor, Moeen Ali or even Nick Compton can be looked at for the number 3 position. Also the wicket keepers position needs to be seen, I personally feel that keep going with Bairstow for a little while to give him more confidence and help him improve his glove work. Other than him I would see steve davis or jos Butler to take the role.