Australia v England, 2nd ODI, Brisbane January 17, 2014

Stunned Giles must rally England

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Darren Lehmann conceded that Australia had been "outplayed for much of the game" and that Eoin Morgan produced the outstanding innings but, thanks to James Faulkner's heist, it was still Australia's coach who was able to savour an unexpected victory as England went 2-0 down in a five-match series.

Ashley Giles, England's limited-overs coach, who must have anticipated that England would be able to celebrate their first international win of the tour, was instead faced with the challenge of rallying spirits and preventing the sort of decline that took hold in their 5-0 Ashes defeat.

"We were outplayed the whole game, bar I suppose the middle overs with the ball," Lehmann told Sky Sports. "We needed 100 from 16 and we should have breezed home from there but a couple of blokes played silly shots. We got away with it really.

"Morgan was the best batsman on the night but we bowled really poorly in the last 10 overs, as probably did England."

Giles accepted that England's dressing room would be deflated after threatening to end their losing run and then falling to Faulkner's unbeaten 69 and a last-wicket stand of 57 in 33 balls with Clint McKay. They must win the next ODI, in Sydney on Sunday, to stay alive in the series.

"One thing I won't be doing is scream and shout at them," he said. "They are all feeling pretty low. We need to lift them back up. We need to get some energy back because the next game is already barely 24 hours away.

"But we need to learn our lessons as well. We need to get our skills right and we didn't quite get it right at the back end. But we were just a hair's width away from getting it right. Through this journey we need to learn along the way. We have got a World Cup here next year and as long as we are learning and improving as we go then I'm going to be happy.

"We said after batting that when our guys were going it was almost easier - it ran on to the bat and it was quite even. But still, from the position we were in, we would like to have gone to Sydney one-all."

Giles defended England's selection, which retained Joe Root at No. 3 and, to some eyes, remains batsman heavy. Root produced a tidy spell of offspin, but the departure of Boyd Rankin with more hamstring trouble did not aid England's cause.

"In terms of consistency we felt it was important to go with the same side," he said. "We will look again for Sydney. We had them 240-odd for 9 so I thought we got selection pretty right today. Morgan's innings was superb. When you are in that position nine-and-a-half times out of ten you are going to win the game.

"Stuart Broad comes back for the next one-dayer in Sydney and that is a positive for the side. We have played some really good cricket but we have not necessarily got our best or most-experienced attack out. Guys are learning and sometimes it's a steep learning curve."

Faulkner's appearance as low as No. 9, below Nathan Coulter-Nile, was a surprise, but Lehmann laughed away the suggestion that it was his latest masterstroke, stressing that the order was solely down to the captain, Michael Clarke.

"It was the skipper's decision," he said. "Nathan needed to have a hit. He hasn't played too much international cricket and he can hit a long ball. James will be back up the order next time I think."

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  • OneEyedAussie on January 18, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Calls for Giles to rally the team but the problems lie elsewhere. Is the English team of the previous two games even close to their best XI? Surely that would include Tredwell, Anderson, Finn (if he were managed properly), Broad and Pietersen. Having Hales or Wright add some power to the top 3 wouldn't go astray either.

  • dunger.bob on January 18, 2014, 10:49 GMT

    @ CodandChips: From the limited amount I've seen of him, Ravi Bopara looks like the modern day Mark Ramprakash. By all accounts should have been a star but never really made it for some reason. .. Still, unlike Ramps, it's not actually all over for Ravi just yet.

  • AusiGuru on January 18, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Bring back real players who can stand up for the pressure and give a break to incompetent captain and replace with a good talented leader. it was a shame not to win a game that would have won by any good A grade captain. What happen to PETERSON, BRING HIM AS THE CAPTAIN.

  • CodandChips on January 18, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    @Chomolungma I'd consider Vince to open for the tour of West Indies, but leave the squad as it is for now (unless Root returns home).On his bowling, its making progress, but certainly would not hope to rely on it in an ODI. On Bopara, I would ocnsider ignoring him post this series. He has not become the player he threatened to be (although at times I think England have made him to the hokey cokey on a pogo-stick- always in and out the side, up and down the order). Bopara frustrates me because his record is poor, and he never wins games when chasing- usually gets out (except in Dublin this year) eg Sri Lanka in WC 2007, India at Lords in 2011

  • one-eyed-but-keepinitreal on January 18, 2014, 2:20 GMT

    After the exhiliration, now is the time for a realistic appraisal of that match. Firstly that was a 320+ run wicket, as was the case in the 2012 Aus(321) v Sri Lanka (307) match. It was a belter and both sides had a stronger tail than the 2012 match with bigger hitters. Given their position at the 40 over mark, England should be happy with their low end of par score. Australia probably should have given Clarke and Maxwell more overs. Unlike the first ODI, England had a lot of luck (Morgan not out was calculated - not luck) which carried into their bowling innings. Nonetheless, at 5 down with 15 overs left and only 100 to get (a chaseable total pre-new rules and pre 20/20) Australia should have coasted to victory. Somehow, they stumbled, losing the two set batsmen in the same over to innocuous bowling. Then they lost lost their way for a while until a brilliant innings by Faulkner helped them to win.. England should have tried Bopara earlier.

  • CrikiLeaks on January 18, 2014, 2:01 GMT

    electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 17, 2014, 15:33 GMT) - You must be talking about the 2011 SCG game [ODI no. 3094]. Tredwell didn't play in it though and Watson scored fast 51. Pretty sure this 301 is the highest chase at the Gabba.

  • CrikiLeaks on January 18, 2014, 1:42 GMT

    @nlpdave - That's the whiney, bitter attitude that seems to infect so many english fans when the team is not winning. Australia bowled exceptionally well in the tests, to not acknowledge that is to do a disservice to the England players. As for the latest defeat, Faulkner has played innings like this before. If Australia get done 2/3-0 in tests and lose the ODI series in S.A. I'll accept that they are average but until that series we should reserve our judgement. Also, Warner was dropped after the incident you are referring to and had to earn his spot again in all formats.

  • on January 17, 2014, 23:36 GMT

    Ridiculously bad captaincy. 4 or 5 overs to go. No 11 on strike. Cook has the field deep so he can get an easy single to let Faulkner take the strike. Then last ball of I think the 3rd last over, Faulkner on strike is allowed to take an easy single because the field does not come in.

  • warnerbasher on January 17, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    nipdave just remember that most of us are descendants of convicts so a bit of violence and punch ups are just part of a normal day down under. Perhaps we should look to English soccer as a beacon for how to behave given the impressive history it has for crowd behaviour and non violence. Is it still the case that opposing fans are herded into different parts of the ground? Finally as you have categorised Australia as an average side it would be much appreciated if you could categorise the English team given that it is 0-7 on the tour so far. I have a view but haven't got time to express it because I'm off to a punchup.

  • Chris_P on January 17, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    If the reason in playing ODI's was to provide entertainment to both the crowd & tv audiences, then both sides should take a bow for providing a nail biting match with a great climax. It's not like England rolled over as their last 10 overs onslaught was equally impressive & just as brutal. For pure spectacles, it was fantastic.

  • OneEyedAussie on January 18, 2014, 12:02 GMT

    Calls for Giles to rally the team but the problems lie elsewhere. Is the English team of the previous two games even close to their best XI? Surely that would include Tredwell, Anderson, Finn (if he were managed properly), Broad and Pietersen. Having Hales or Wright add some power to the top 3 wouldn't go astray either.

  • dunger.bob on January 18, 2014, 10:49 GMT

    @ CodandChips: From the limited amount I've seen of him, Ravi Bopara looks like the modern day Mark Ramprakash. By all accounts should have been a star but never really made it for some reason. .. Still, unlike Ramps, it's not actually all over for Ravi just yet.

  • AusiGuru on January 18, 2014, 10:02 GMT

    Bring back real players who can stand up for the pressure and give a break to incompetent captain and replace with a good talented leader. it was a shame not to win a game that would have won by any good A grade captain. What happen to PETERSON, BRING HIM AS THE CAPTAIN.

  • CodandChips on January 18, 2014, 8:12 GMT

    @Chomolungma I'd consider Vince to open for the tour of West Indies, but leave the squad as it is for now (unless Root returns home).On his bowling, its making progress, but certainly would not hope to rely on it in an ODI. On Bopara, I would ocnsider ignoring him post this series. He has not become the player he threatened to be (although at times I think England have made him to the hokey cokey on a pogo-stick- always in and out the side, up and down the order). Bopara frustrates me because his record is poor, and he never wins games when chasing- usually gets out (except in Dublin this year) eg Sri Lanka in WC 2007, India at Lords in 2011

  • one-eyed-but-keepinitreal on January 18, 2014, 2:20 GMT

    After the exhiliration, now is the time for a realistic appraisal of that match. Firstly that was a 320+ run wicket, as was the case in the 2012 Aus(321) v Sri Lanka (307) match. It was a belter and both sides had a stronger tail than the 2012 match with bigger hitters. Given their position at the 40 over mark, England should be happy with their low end of par score. Australia probably should have given Clarke and Maxwell more overs. Unlike the first ODI, England had a lot of luck (Morgan not out was calculated - not luck) which carried into their bowling innings. Nonetheless, at 5 down with 15 overs left and only 100 to get (a chaseable total pre-new rules and pre 20/20) Australia should have coasted to victory. Somehow, they stumbled, losing the two set batsmen in the same over to innocuous bowling. Then they lost lost their way for a while until a brilliant innings by Faulkner helped them to win.. England should have tried Bopara earlier.

  • CrikiLeaks on January 18, 2014, 2:01 GMT

    electric_loco_WAP4 on (January 17, 2014, 15:33 GMT) - You must be talking about the 2011 SCG game [ODI no. 3094]. Tredwell didn't play in it though and Watson scored fast 51. Pretty sure this 301 is the highest chase at the Gabba.

  • CrikiLeaks on January 18, 2014, 1:42 GMT

    @nlpdave - That's the whiney, bitter attitude that seems to infect so many english fans when the team is not winning. Australia bowled exceptionally well in the tests, to not acknowledge that is to do a disservice to the England players. As for the latest defeat, Faulkner has played innings like this before. If Australia get done 2/3-0 in tests and lose the ODI series in S.A. I'll accept that they are average but until that series we should reserve our judgement. Also, Warner was dropped after the incident you are referring to and had to earn his spot again in all formats.

  • on January 17, 2014, 23:36 GMT

    Ridiculously bad captaincy. 4 or 5 overs to go. No 11 on strike. Cook has the field deep so he can get an easy single to let Faulkner take the strike. Then last ball of I think the 3rd last over, Faulkner on strike is allowed to take an easy single because the field does not come in.

  • warnerbasher on January 17, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    nipdave just remember that most of us are descendants of convicts so a bit of violence and punch ups are just part of a normal day down under. Perhaps we should look to English soccer as a beacon for how to behave given the impressive history it has for crowd behaviour and non violence. Is it still the case that opposing fans are herded into different parts of the ground? Finally as you have categorised Australia as an average side it would be much appreciated if you could categorise the English team given that it is 0-7 on the tour so far. I have a view but haven't got time to express it because I'm off to a punchup.

  • Chris_P on January 17, 2014, 20:48 GMT

    If the reason in playing ODI's was to provide entertainment to both the crowd & tv audiences, then both sides should take a bow for providing a nail biting match with a great climax. It's not like England rolled over as their last 10 overs onslaught was equally impressive & just as brutal. For pure spectacles, it was fantastic.

  • SAF-Fan-no-1 on January 17, 2014, 20:47 GMT

    Drop Cook, Bresnan, Root - These guys are no good for One day international - They might fit for Test but not oneday. England should dropped them - Get Moin Ali - Jonathan Bartshaw, James Taylor. They guys are good for onedays. Shame on England...........!

  • PeerieTrow on January 17, 2014, 20:12 GMT

    Giles rallying England? That'll be worth watching!

    I like the team (including your choice of captain) CodandChips, with the exception of Ravi. Unfortunately messing with his membership of the team over the years seems to have messed with his confidence. I would have James Vince at#3 behind Bell and Carbs, and shuffle the rest down one place. I'm relatively confident that you will have a view on Vince's developing bowling skills which are really no worse than Ravi's.

  • nlpdave on January 17, 2014, 19:01 GMT

    Perhaps an unseen downside of central contracts is keeping players past their sell by date? It certainly isn't working now as the England side are going to struggle to beat anyone, confidence is going to be hard to restore. Maybe there needs to be a little more competition for places, as the much vaunted coaches can't seem to pick winners perhaps performance should have more of a say. The worst performing player in a side should be automatically dropped and the next cab on the rank called up. Currently it's all far too cosy.

  • nlpdave on January 17, 2014, 18:51 GMT

    I get the feeling that England won't win anything on this tour, morale and motivation are at rock bottom. Someone should slug Warner in a bar, or perhaps at a presentation and begin to push back at this average Australian side. After all thumping a member of the opposition isn't unprecedented and comes with very little punishment. In Australia I imagine such actions are heartily encouraged.

  • Iddo555 on January 17, 2014, 18:39 GMT

    Broad will come in for Rankin which will only strengthen the side. Root is struggling with the bat but did a good job with the ball. England aren't far away but far enough to be 2-0 down

    Cook needs to pull his finger out and show he's a one day player, otherwise he's going to have to go. Bopara needs to pull his finger out, scores of 16 and 24 aren't good enough.

  • CodandChips on January 17, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    In a way a decent result because I fear that if we had won, Giles would have stuck with his absurd formula forever. This game is an excellent example of why it did not work for the following reasons:

    1.Had the top order done their job we would have got nowhere near 300.

    2.4 bowlers is not enough, especially when Rankin is poor and Stokes is not a full time bowler

    3.Finishers need more time to do their work

    Next match- out Cook, Root (both need a rest), Rankin and Bresnan. In Carberry, Woakes, Broad and Briggs. Woakes is arguably just as good as Bresnan but can bat better and has potential. The only advantage Bresnan has is experience. Broad is class and better than Rankin. Briggs cos we need a spinner and I don't trust Tredwell anymore following his annihilation at home. Carberry to try and score quickly at the top.

    1.Bell 2.Carberry 3.Ballance 4.Morgan (c) 5.Bopara 6.Buttler 7.Stokes 8.Woakes 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Briggs

  • CM1000 on January 17, 2014, 17:37 GMT

    @tanstell87 All teams are pretty reticent to play bowlers that can't bat well / score quick runs and chase totals at the death when required (the way Australia did today). Of the four missing English bowlers that you mentioned, in my opinion only Broad could potentially be a useful part of a chase like that. You could never call Anderson, Finn or Tremlett anything more than true tail-end batsmen, whereas Australia had Faulkner at No.9 today scoring 69 off 47, and Johnson at 10 who has a Test century to his name. An attack with Anderson, Finn and Tremlett may well have restricted Australia a bit more today, but England then would also very likely have been short of runs given they were eight down.

  • Iddo555 on January 17, 2014, 17:11 GMT

    England played well and deserved to win but when push comes to shove, it's 2-0 to add to the 5-0 in the ashes. I don't see England coming back from this defeat. The last bit of fight they had in them has now gone.

    England have been taught a lesson on 'foot on the throat cricket' England often take their foot off the gas when they are winning and allow the opposition to get confidence. This is a lesson and England need to learn from it

  • on January 17, 2014, 16:14 GMT

    MiGHTY AUSSIES ARE BACK they are gonna win it B| love them

  • Yevghenny on January 17, 2014, 15:45 GMT

    England have been a bowler light on the bowling in ODI's for a while now. Bresnan is a change bowler, not front line. Joe Root as the specialist spinner??

  • looloogun on January 17, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    surely england lacks direction ? utter confusion players get picked but goes home in the middle >> mcikey arthur said the aussies dried up skill level but suddendly there is huge pool of talented players running in the mix under lehman.. well enlish cricket needs direction not the english international team ,,,it can do away with just a coach or a manager these are international class players produced from a quality county syatem .you dont need direction for14players simple old way ?just have to hit the ball,

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on January 17, 2014, 15:33 GMT

    @tanstell- All of those you mentioned-except. Tredwell-played in Gabba ODI in last Eng tour in 2011 v 2nd string Aus. Result- Watto s/handedly trampled Eng as Aus gallopped to smashing win chasing well over 300 with some to spare.

  • shammini on January 17, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Sheer madness is what comes to mind with ECB tactics for this series down-under. How else do you explain the same mistakes being repeated over and over ...and over again?. There is something called 'best man for the job' 'put your best foot forward' etc. ECB needs to learn this aplenty if they are going to help their cause at all. All their current tactics are doing is luring cricket fans further and further away from English cricket. Its not like England lacks talent, they are just too afraid to try them out. The less said about Cook and Root, the better. They need to be protected from a total meltdown like Swann or Trott did. Bring in Carberry, Onions, Taylor etc. Would like to see the backs of Bresnan, Rankin etc too - limited talent and even that would disappear fast under current circumstances.

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    Poor captaincy from cook, that should sum up for the defeat today.

  • chapathishot on January 17, 2014, 14:40 GMT

    Ishant sharma will be blamed less as he has a team to share it with him

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 17, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    Giles and Cook have to be sacked. Enough is enough. Cook has had enough chances with the bat since the English summer, but his batting is hopeless. Giles doesn't seem to have a clue about team selection or strategy. ECB can't afford to humiliate the national cricket team any further. The cricket fans will turn away from this England side, and it will be a financial disaster for English cricket.

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    cook made a great mistake not to pick Tredwell. i m not with his captains tactics.he have to improve his batings. worst captain at the moment

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:07 GMT

    Baffling selection by England again. Even had Tredwell played, it would have been a very inexperienced attack with the exception of Bresnan, who is now no more than a medium pace pie chucker (Bopara was quicker on the speed gun). Rankin has always been bigged up way beyond his abilities (mainly because of Ashley Giles' Warwickshire -tinted spectacles) and Root should have been sat on the plane home next to Finn. Cook should take a break for his own good and let Carberry sink or swim opening. Team for Sydney:- Carberry, Bell, Ballance, Morgan(c), Buttler, Bopara, Stokes, Broad, Tredwell, Jordan, Briggs. At least that way we see some new talent and rest those who are so obviously jaded and/or sub-standard.

  • on January 17, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    another nail in england's coffin

  • tanstell87 on January 17, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    the effect of not playing Anderson or Broad or Finn or even Tremlett in ODIs...why is Pietersen not in ODI team...cant understand why England don't give importance to ODI cricket...why is Tredwell not playing...look at Root figures today...

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  • tanstell87 on January 17, 2014, 12:50 GMT

    the effect of not playing Anderson or Broad or Finn or even Tremlett in ODIs...why is Pietersen not in ODI team...cant understand why England don't give importance to ODI cricket...why is Tredwell not playing...look at Root figures today...

  • on January 17, 2014, 13:22 GMT

    another nail in england's coffin

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:07 GMT

    Baffling selection by England again. Even had Tredwell played, it would have been a very inexperienced attack with the exception of Bresnan, who is now no more than a medium pace pie chucker (Bopara was quicker on the speed gun). Rankin has always been bigged up way beyond his abilities (mainly because of Ashley Giles' Warwickshire -tinted spectacles) and Root should have been sat on the plane home next to Finn. Cook should take a break for his own good and let Carberry sink or swim opening. Team for Sydney:- Carberry, Bell, Ballance, Morgan(c), Buttler, Bopara, Stokes, Broad, Tredwell, Jordan, Briggs. At least that way we see some new talent and rest those who are so obviously jaded and/or sub-standard.

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:23 GMT

    cook made a great mistake not to pick Tredwell. i m not with his captains tactics.he have to improve his batings. worst captain at the moment

  • AJ_Tiger86 on January 17, 2014, 14:36 GMT

    Giles and Cook have to be sacked. Enough is enough. Cook has had enough chances with the bat since the English summer, but his batting is hopeless. Giles doesn't seem to have a clue about team selection or strategy. ECB can't afford to humiliate the national cricket team any further. The cricket fans will turn away from this England side, and it will be a financial disaster for English cricket.

  • chapathishot on January 17, 2014, 14:40 GMT

    Ishant sharma will be blamed less as he has a team to share it with him

  • on January 17, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    Poor captaincy from cook, that should sum up for the defeat today.

  • shammini on January 17, 2014, 15:13 GMT

    Sheer madness is what comes to mind with ECB tactics for this series down-under. How else do you explain the same mistakes being repeated over and over ...and over again?. There is something called 'best man for the job' 'put your best foot forward' etc. ECB needs to learn this aplenty if they are going to help their cause at all. All their current tactics are doing is luring cricket fans further and further away from English cricket. Its not like England lacks talent, they are just too afraid to try them out. The less said about Cook and Root, the better. They need to be protected from a total meltdown like Swann or Trott did. Bring in Carberry, Onions, Taylor etc. Would like to see the backs of Bresnan, Rankin etc too - limited talent and even that would disappear fast under current circumstances.

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on January 17, 2014, 15:33 GMT

    @tanstell- All of those you mentioned-except. Tredwell-played in Gabba ODI in last Eng tour in 2011 v 2nd string Aus. Result- Watto s/handedly trampled Eng as Aus gallopped to smashing win chasing well over 300 with some to spare.

  • looloogun on January 17, 2014, 15:39 GMT

    surely england lacks direction ? utter confusion players get picked but goes home in the middle >> mcikey arthur said the aussies dried up skill level but suddendly there is huge pool of talented players running in the mix under lehman.. well enlish cricket needs direction not the english international team ,,,it can do away with just a coach or a manager these are international class players produced from a quality county syatem .you dont need direction for14players simple old way ?just have to hit the ball,