West Indies v India, tri-series, Port-of-Spain July 4, 2013

Battered India face uphill task

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Match facts

Friday, July 5
Start time 0930 (1330 GMT)

Big Picture

India arrived in the West Indies with their confidence rocketing sky-high but in just over a week, the engines have come off. The two losses in Kingston mean they now find themselves in a position where even two wins won't be enough to guarantee their progression. Both Sri Lanka and West Indies have the cushion of a bonus point and India will need to find at least one to improve their position. A loss won't totally obliterate India's chances either but will leave them hoping for the remaining results to work in their favour. West Indies, on the other hand, are sitting comfortably with nine points from two games and a win will confirm them as one of the finalists.

India were rightly being showered with a lot of praise after their success in the Champions Trophy which was built on the energy the young shoulders brought. Since then, the players, as well as the captain, have proudly talked about them being the No. 1 side in the ODIs in a manner reminiscent of India's Test team a couple of years back. But there are lessons to be learnt from the nosedive India took in Tests after that.

Top sides are not dependent on a couple of players to pull them through every tricky situation. Top sides have attacks that are not neutralised by conditions. Top sides do not let everything through in the field all day after proclaiming themselves as the best fielding unit. Till India can bring the consistency to deliver in a variety of conditions, their hold on that No. 1 ODI ranking will remain slippery. One thing in their favour, however, is that they have a young team which has shown the right facets to be successful in the longer term.

India's free-flowing batsmen found the going tough on the slowish pitches at Sabina Park and with the conditions not likely to be too different in Port-of-Spain, the lesson for them is that once you are in, make it count. Chris Gayle did that in the first match, then Johnson Charles followed that route in the second and in the third, Mahela Jayawardene and Upul Tharanga proved how effective it can be. Rohit Sharma did the tough part in the first match before taking a wrong turn when the freeway beckoned.

India's bowling remains a bigger worry and it remains to be seen how they regroup after the battering they received in the previous match. Shami Ahmed lacked rhythm and at times, his run-up reminded of Munaf Patel's slow amble to the crease. Despite him being as guilty of leaking runs as anyone else, he could be the first head to roll, and the onus could be back on Bhuvneshwar Kumar to bring the bowling unit's confidence back.

West Indies' bowling has thrived in home conditions. Their fast bowlers were the only ones who managed to make use of the moisture in the Sabina Park pitch and their medium-pacers and spinners have been tough to score off. With their long batting order in good nick, they are finally showing signs of extending their Twenty20 form to ODIs.

Form guide

West Indies WWTLW (most recent first, last five completed matches)
India LLWWW

In the spotlight

His claim to fame maybe T20s, but after six years and 80 matches, you would expect Kieron Pollard to crack the ODI code. But he hasn't. His average throughout his career has stayed below 30 and his underachievement in the format can be likened to how West Indies themselves have fared in ODIs - replete with talent, but nothing to show for it. Pollard has been generally found out by quality quick bowlers around the world, but in this series, he has two of the slower attacks in cricket, and in India, one of the weakest too. After scoring 0 and 4 in the series, it is high time he takes the advantage.

In a line-up full of generous bowlers, R Ashwin boasts of an economy of less than five but for a lead spinner, he doesn't buy his captain many wickets. After 55 ODIs, his best is 3 for 24. His numbers suffer further when he bowls outside the subcontinent. Two days ago, when Ashwin was introduced to rein in the Sri Lanka openers, he had no answer. India's weakness in pace is well-known, but it's the ineffectiveness of their spinners in this series that is worrying.

Team news

West Indies made one change to their squad for the Trinidad matches, bringing in fast bowler Jason Holder in place of the injured Ravi Rampaul, but they are likely to keep their pace combination of Kemar Roach and Tino Best to hustle the India batsmen. Dwayne Bravo, who was rested in the previous match as a precautionary measure following a groin strain, will return to lead the side at his home ground.

West Indies (probable) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Johnson Charles, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Dwayne Bravo (capt), 6 Kieron Pollard, 7 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 8 Darren Sammy, 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Kemar Roach, 11 Tino Best

India felt Bhuvneshwar Kumar's absence in their previous game as the first wicket that usually comes early took 39 overs to come. He could replace Shami Ahmed in the XI.

India (probable) 1 Shikhar Dhawan, 2 Rohit Sharma, 3 M Vijay, 4 Virat Kohli (capt), 5 Dinesh Karthik (wk), 6 Suresh Raina, 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Ishant Sharma, 11 Umesh Yadav

Stats and trivia

  • West Indies' win-loss record against India at Queen's Park Oval stands at 7-4
  • In this series, Bhuvneshwar Kumar is the most economical of India's frontline bowlers. He is No. 15 on the list
  • Chris Gayle has four centuries against India, his most against any country

Quotes

"The wicket last time was really slow and I just had a look, it has a bit of grass this time around, but it seems to be the same as the last time. I don't think there is much of an adjustment needed as far as the conditions are concerned."
Virat Kohli on what the Queen's Park Oval might have in store

"It's like a dream come true for me. It's always good to play in the Oval. But to be the captain of the West Indies team is something special."
Dwayne Bravo on leading West Indies for the first time at his home ground

Devashish Fuloria is a sub-editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 5, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    The loss against West Indies was very sad since there was an opportunity for India to pull through however the loss against Sri Lanka was very much needed for India. This will give them a wake-up call and re-look in to their team combination. There could be an opportunity for Amit Mishra to play some role here. They can drop Shammi Ahmed and bring back Bhuveneshwar Kumar. Also they could drop Ishant Sharma and bring Amit Mishra instead since Ashwin is available to take the ball during power play and therefore India could go with two pace bowlers. We can't do much on the batting since there is no one is available to replace.

    Indians should think to score 100 in the first 15 overs and another 100 in the next 20. If this happens they could push themselves to score another 100 in the last 15. This should be their target. 15-20-15 for 100-100-100.

    Two losses put them in a very difficult situation and I hope they will recover fast to enable them to be qualified for the finals.

  • Twinkie on July 5, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    That's what I've been saying. Good bowlers and batsman find ways to conquer all conditions. Blaming a little early moisture in a wicket is lame. Also the success of the team cannot be dependent on one or two player. I think that the difference between the top eight teams in cricket is small. It's a matter of one or two players. That is why No. 8 can beat No. 1 if those two players have a bad day. There is no really dominant team right now so the rankings will keep changing, especially factoring in the home and away conditions.

  • Harmony111 on July 5, 2013, 18:58 GMT

    @cricketsunami: Nicely said to Nampally. While we should not go that hard on him cos he is a brother but he has the habit of bringing in Pujara in just about everything. I guess he will bring in Pujara even while having Halwa. I agree with him on most points but can't see any proper reasoning in saying that not only should Pujara play in the ODIs but that he be made the captain. Had this been a suggestion it would have been fine but he goes on to assert wholeheartedly that Pujara, who is yet to play a single ODI, will definitely do well than those who are in the team and would make a better captain than anyone else, esp Virat Kohli who has won the U-19 WC as captain.

    I keep saying that we should not hype our new players up. I trust them to do well but why put extra pressure on them? I hope Nampally sees what we are talking about and goes easy on our fresh crop of players. Nothing personal here with Nampally who is a nice guy but we must not go the way of the likes of FFL etc.

  • miggfigg on July 5, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    Its about time that West Indies turn the clock around and showcase their true talent. The t20 champions league is long gone and our focus now is to get over the hurdle of the tri-nation series in Port Of Spain. The first two wins of the series for them have definitely put them in a dominating position, however, its important that they don't become complacent because both their competitors have the ability to turn things around. In terms of the W.I. captaincy, kudos goes out to Darren Sammy for his continued commitment and support to both the team and the new captain, Dwayne Bravo. GO WEST INDIES!!!!

  • on July 5, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    Even through virat is a great player but he have the lack of captancy.Last match also we saw, he try to himself to bowl with lot of loose deliveries.He doesn't try to unit the team.I think suresh raina having good captaincy skill unlike virat

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    Great cricket. Ahead. I think in the end India. Will prevail.. Got used to India. Stealing the shoe in the end.. Hope it works out...... All the very best. To team India ....jai-hind....:::))))

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:36 GMT

    What ever happened to the batsmen, who was also the last u19 winning world captain, have not heard anyone talk abt him

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    all the best india .......we will still love you even if u lost

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    @Sandip Manjrekar on (July 5, 2013, 6:39 GMT). Oh, come on Mr Manjrekar! Don't you know, in India, all of us love to play "Selector- Selector". No more "home-Home" or "Office-Office", as we all used to, several decades ago !

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    i think indian players need some rest

  • on July 5, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    The loss against West Indies was very sad since there was an opportunity for India to pull through however the loss against Sri Lanka was very much needed for India. This will give them a wake-up call and re-look in to their team combination. There could be an opportunity for Amit Mishra to play some role here. They can drop Shammi Ahmed and bring back Bhuveneshwar Kumar. Also they could drop Ishant Sharma and bring Amit Mishra instead since Ashwin is available to take the ball during power play and therefore India could go with two pace bowlers. We can't do much on the batting since there is no one is available to replace.

    Indians should think to score 100 in the first 15 overs and another 100 in the next 20. If this happens they could push themselves to score another 100 in the last 15. This should be their target. 15-20-15 for 100-100-100.

    Two losses put them in a very difficult situation and I hope they will recover fast to enable them to be qualified for the finals.

  • Twinkie on July 5, 2013, 1:39 GMT

    That's what I've been saying. Good bowlers and batsman find ways to conquer all conditions. Blaming a little early moisture in a wicket is lame. Also the success of the team cannot be dependent on one or two player. I think that the difference between the top eight teams in cricket is small. It's a matter of one or two players. That is why No. 8 can beat No. 1 if those two players have a bad day. There is no really dominant team right now so the rankings will keep changing, especially factoring in the home and away conditions.

  • Harmony111 on July 5, 2013, 18:58 GMT

    @cricketsunami: Nicely said to Nampally. While we should not go that hard on him cos he is a brother but he has the habit of bringing in Pujara in just about everything. I guess he will bring in Pujara even while having Halwa. I agree with him on most points but can't see any proper reasoning in saying that not only should Pujara play in the ODIs but that he be made the captain. Had this been a suggestion it would have been fine but he goes on to assert wholeheartedly that Pujara, who is yet to play a single ODI, will definitely do well than those who are in the team and would make a better captain than anyone else, esp Virat Kohli who has won the U-19 WC as captain.

    I keep saying that we should not hype our new players up. I trust them to do well but why put extra pressure on them? I hope Nampally sees what we are talking about and goes easy on our fresh crop of players. Nothing personal here with Nampally who is a nice guy but we must not go the way of the likes of FFL etc.

  • miggfigg on July 5, 2013, 15:04 GMT

    Its about time that West Indies turn the clock around and showcase their true talent. The t20 champions league is long gone and our focus now is to get over the hurdle of the tri-nation series in Port Of Spain. The first two wins of the series for them have definitely put them in a dominating position, however, its important that they don't become complacent because both their competitors have the ability to turn things around. In terms of the W.I. captaincy, kudos goes out to Darren Sammy for his continued commitment and support to both the team and the new captain, Dwayne Bravo. GO WEST INDIES!!!!

  • on July 5, 2013, 13:18 GMT

    Even through virat is a great player but he have the lack of captancy.Last match also we saw, he try to himself to bowl with lot of loose deliveries.He doesn't try to unit the team.I think suresh raina having good captaincy skill unlike virat

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    Great cricket. Ahead. I think in the end India. Will prevail.. Got used to India. Stealing the shoe in the end.. Hope it works out...... All the very best. To team India ....jai-hind....:::))))

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:36 GMT

    What ever happened to the batsmen, who was also the last u19 winning world captain, have not heard anyone talk abt him

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    all the best india .......we will still love you even if u lost

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:14 GMT

    @Sandip Manjrekar on (July 5, 2013, 6:39 GMT). Oh, come on Mr Manjrekar! Don't you know, in India, all of us love to play "Selector- Selector". No more "home-Home" or "Office-Office", as we all used to, several decades ago !

  • on July 5, 2013, 12:00 GMT

    i think indian players need some rest

  • on July 5, 2013, 11:46 GMT

    loss of 2 matches are past. forget what happen in past & think about present . so still india have a chance to play final..so we hope india will bounce back strongly in next two games... we are still strong in all depts batting,bowling,fielding.. ALL THE BEST to TEAM INDIA ....

  • on July 5, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    As a Indian ...Its amazing to see how the times changes abruptly. 10 days ago Indians were Unbeatable and now this team looks like the weakest team of the tournament. It also prove, what a single change in winning combination can do to the team. Its tough time for kohli's aggresive captaincy which proves why dhoni's calmness is important to the team. This team have to unite,assemble and fight hard with confidence to grab a win. Definitely without dhoni it looks dull and their body language shows why a Dhoni-type-leader is required to build the moral of the team.Overall good luck to indians. Go hard play well and of course "BE CONFIDENT" !! All the best ..Make us proud ..

  • on July 5, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    @madras_boy: I agree with you that VIjay should get some more chances but more than his batting his fielding is the bigges worry....did u c how he didnt tuk the catch of Jayawardane and that too when he was on 25...it turned the game massively didnt it....for his mistake India paid the price heavily....He doesnt have enough confidence in him to play big innings in onedays u can c this in his body language....we should go with Rayudu instead who is unproven in international level...

  • Shajahan.P on July 5, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    @ Posted by on (July 5, 2013, 9:47 GMT):

    Who is Manoj Tiwary, Did he play last IPL? lol...

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    india should loss the game.

  • Lokeshrrcskfan on July 5, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Bring Vijay to the team...he is performing well I mean vijay zol, U19 captain

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    These are fairly superficial comments.There needs to be more depth to the articles.Batting & Bowling performances,especially averages out of the context of the match and the occasion do not really speak of the potential of a player.India has shown remarkable consistency in winning the U-19,Senior Cup & Champions trophy,as well as a few bilateral series.They are way ahead in the one-day stakes-something they were not even in the days of Kapil Dev & Gavaskar. Our real concern is Test performances overseas and not the shorter version of the game,and something should be done towards redressing that.....

  • RolandoBloom on July 5, 2013, 10:48 GMT

    From an ardent Srilankan fan. These two losses I think are minor blips for India. There's no doubt about the abundant talent in their ranks. They are blessed with such skillful batsmen as Virat, Shikkar, Suresh, MSD, DK and bowlers like Ashwin, Buvi etc , and the ever so talented Sir Jadeja as they call him. There's absolutely no need for anyone to panic after 2 losses. I agree with the commentators that fatigue and the relative insignificance of this series following the CT series has definitely played a part here. Good luck to India , looking forward to enjoy their exciting brand of cricket for many more years to come. Calm down everyone!

  • D-Ascendant on July 5, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    @Dharmatma LOL! Good to see Cricinfo is finally appreciating some humour in the comments pages.

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:43 GMT

    As far As performance of team india is very good to me they doing it very well. to me dhoni is still the best captian

  • philipsmgp on July 5, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Dharmatma Suryavanshi.....Are you serious man?If you are not serious... That must be the most funniest comment published in cricinfo.Yusuf would not even be the captain of his street team.... And Vinod kambli....Everyone wants Sachin to quit...and you want Kambli back...How come man....cant stop laughing....Thanks ..though... ..

  • brusselslion on July 5, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    For once, I am in total agreement with @Cpt.Meanster (July 4, 2013, 18:44 GMT). This is nothing but a pointless, money making exercise (same as the Eng-NZ T20s).

    If I were an Indian player, I think that I would find that an old injury is now starting to play up, which means that I will have to miss this series and also the forthcoming Zimambwe trip (the very definition of 'meaningless'). This injury will, of course, heal in time for the SA series.

    My suggestion to posters here; pop over to the England - Australia thread and have a look around. A rather more important series of matches are about to get underway.

  • sachinisawesome on July 5, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    @ Subodh Sarin Utter Rubbish if form is the reason then Ishant and umesh will never get selected. Yuvi scored a brillient 70 against pakistan in a t20 and was out of form in the IPL. He should be in the team. But Gambhir and sehwag should prove that they r in form.

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    @Subodh Sarin

    Adding to your comments, we must keep faith in current squad. It is not a time to discuss who should be in & out. By the way we should not forget WC 2007 where all theses stars were playing and we bowed out. We saw most recently and after WC 2011 that they were consistently failed. So keep patience.

  • philipsmgp on July 5, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    Ashwin can really become a very good bowler but only if he stops bowling those annoying pause deliveries.I never thought the batsmen have ever been decieved by that.Why doesnt the bowling coach ask him to stop bowling that non-sense delivery.

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    there is no need to discuss this rubbish.... the reason of india's loss is ms dhoni's absence. Once he cum back to the team, you all will accept this as the champion team. Not to forget this team lifted the Champion's Trophy by beating the host team at their country...

  • bingster on July 5, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    This just shows that indian team is average at best Yes they won the CT but that doesnt make india a better team..I thiink players like shikhar dhawan,rohit sharma,raina,jadeja arent that good that people make them i mean yes for a short span of time they might be good but not consistently..India needs some good bowlers to be able to compete at world stage they cant just rely on Dhoni to save them there should be 11 players and not 11 players depending on 1

  • pavankumark on July 5, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    New Venue, New Fortunes for Team INDIA. Match Prediction :- They will win this match with a Bonus Point, BAT First and compile 300+ Runs... Raina Scores a Century ;)

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:14 GMT

    To all those who keep asking for Yuvi, Gambhir and Sehwag - they were dropped due to poor form and performance. Selectors are absolutely justified for keeping them out, till they demonstrate a return to form in domestic cricket. Mind you, I have all the respect for their past achievements. It is ironical that for years the grouse against Indian selectors was that they were too influenced by past records and reputation, and current form and performance was not valued enough. Under Sandeep Patil, the selectors are boldly treading this path, but the carpers are still in full flow.

  • on July 5, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Drop v kohli , bring back yusuf Pathan as the captain of Indian team , also Vinod kambli deserves one last call , wake up selectors!

  • on July 5, 2013, 9:57 GMT

    where is IRFAN PATHAN. he will be better than ishant. he swings the ball both ways and can bat deep down

  • on July 5, 2013, 9:47 GMT

    India should definitely change the bowling combination and should rest bowlers like Ishant and Yadhav....must recruit gud fast bolwers and spinners from domestic level...if a team like SL who was the bunny of Ind for so long was able to score 348 runs from our bowling attack then there is something terribly wrong with our attack....and for God's sake what is raina and dinesh karthik doing in the team when players like manoj Tiwary still waiting to get a chance...

  • madras_boy on July 5, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    Again I can see someone bashing at Vijay. He scored 30 runs in the last match and was better than the openers and also at a faster rate. What else can you expect ? He was getting settled in the game when he was bowled by malinga yorker. Nohit Sharma got 80 ODI. Guess how many Vijay got without a break ?

  • karthikarmyphysio on July 5, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    YOU FAIL - to let know the world you too can falter after being Champions in England. YOU RISE - to let the world it is part and parcel of being the champions. Not the Wins that makes us Champions, like a stream. The FAILURES and the ability to Cope with that and RISE again. It may not be today but neverthless the boys need some rest too. Kohli did his best to save us i beleive. Yes there may be few judgement errors he made. Remember Dhoni has entrusted Kohli to Lead and like him and my fellow Indians let us trust this boy. Im Sure he will rise up to challege. Game against WI in the first one was a thriller. We had chances to win. There was a stumped chance in the last over i beleive and DK missed it. That could have turned the game. Some chances against SL game was there too and we missed it. IT's OK BOYS....NOT to WORRY...CARRY ON THE JOURNEY.

  • priceless1 on July 5, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    W' Indies are just a bunch of T20 bullies, most of the time they cannot even play out the 50 overs , unless one of their big two really gets going ( Gayle or Pollard)they will end up with another below par score today ( either batting first or second )

  • on July 5, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    Rohit is a middle order batsman and Vijay is an opening batsman, why do the team think tank tamper with a players comfort level? Swap them both may be thats the right answer for a winning combination. Ishanth has been wayward and way too expensive in all matches including the champions trophy. Replace Ishanth with Vinay kumar who has not got a single game in the tours. Middle order needs Kohli, Raina and Jadeja to perform, DKs performance has always been a bonus if clicked. Spinners are very effective on slow pitches ,Indian spinners esp Ashwin needs to think n perfom avoid getting whacked. Sunil Naraine is getting more purchase as his confidence is better than Indian or Srilankan spinners. Ind XI 1dhavan 2vijay 3kohli 4karthik 5rohit 6raina 7jadeja 8bhuvaneshwar 9ashwin 10vinay 11umesh

  • on July 5, 2013, 8:49 GMT

    India Should give one more chance to Sehwag & Yuvi. They are still a match winners... Don't forget them. Hope they will come back...

  • on July 5, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    I think SL is the best team in the tournament.They will be Champs..

  • Baseball-Sucks on July 5, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    A massive victory for W'indies on the card.

  • Manowara on July 5, 2013, 7:57 GMT

    Yes i agree Sandeep IPl did very good thing to team India, There are many good picks all of sudden. A very important player can be dropped by a young talent and proved capable. Who imagined of Indian national team playing without Sachin, Viru, Yuvi. In a way its better but if people try to drag the team in 8 directions. It looks like there are 8 selection boards in one country.

  • on July 5, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    Gayan Perera

    Top sides can only talk on why they are top. Absolutely right that they are not depending on pitch conditions and hence they are top. Your perceptions won't effect on them. Don't compare them with your team as you are suggesting that your team depends on 2 players mahela & Sangakara. Every body knew this.

  • on July 5, 2013, 7:44 GMT

    Haiderpakawsome

    PAK expecting in WI tour shortly. Keep focusing on it. IND will play with WI without thinking any thing in mind. They will take care about bonus point so you don't need to be worried. Be focus on how PAK should avoid another blank series after recent ENG tour.

  • Ranta on July 5, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    I would play Rayudu ahead of Vijay. Rayudu being a middle order batsman should be preferred. Good lower order batsman, Plus Vijay is a backup opener & opening slot for now looks taken. Plus Vijay has looked out of sorts & with openers also taking time to settle you can't have your one down batsman eat up balls too. Kohli is good one down as he rotates strike and takes singles with ease. Put Rayudu at 6. He might not of best of stats to show for but he is a good competitor, which is a great quality to have.

    Indian cricket will only benefit by making use of this talent, I hope he makes debut as this is time to show what all the talk was about.

    Note from a Rayudu fan since 2004, the wait so far has been frustrating but things finally are coming together, Hope he makes best use so India can see what we have in him.

  • phunny_game on July 5, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    Its because dhoni came and conquered the world straightaway that makes people think everybody can... that is not true. Kohli needs some time and i would not mind losing a couple of series to benefit indian cricket in the long run. This guy did not have a great start to his odi career too. Was on the verge of being dropped after 15-16 matches, i remember each and every column or article as well as former cricketers said that he has had his chances, and then he showed the the world what he can do. He can do well under pressure when leading. He just needs some time to figure out a way. As far as the match is concerned, notnsure what to expect except a good fightt from both the teams.

  • Sundara-Chandare on July 5, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    Ishanth Sharma is a mediocre bowler.But IND team managment still keep him in the team just because his height.Because 6ft 3 or above players are very rare in India and Sri Lanka.So India and Sri Lanka give too many chances to these tall players.Remember Dilhara Fernando and Nuwan Zoysa.But they don't know how to use their rare height to the game.But short fast bowlers[below 6ft] have sucseeced in the Asia.Players like Malinga,Kulasekara,Bhuvi,Vaas for examples.

  • AamanSomani on July 5, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    I don't think that V Kohli is doing a good job as a captain. Dropping B Kumar was just mad. Instead of B Kumar he must have dropped I Sharma. R Vinay Kumar should be given a chance or else Amit Mishra should be given a chance. B Kumar breaks the top order of the team and gives us early wickets. He was not there therefore they made a partnership of 218. The batsmen should also take responsibility. I think M Vijay is not playing his natural game of hitting. If he does so, he can also score hundreds. Instead of V Kohli; S Raina or R Sharma should be given captaincy if it is possible.

  • Naresh28 on July 5, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    SL went in with a plan in the last game. It paid off. For example they knew that the Indian batters hate lack of pace and did not give them much apart from Malinga. Whilst batting SL decided not to let the spin bowlers take advantage and get the upper hand - it paid off as well. I am sure if Dhoni was there he could have figured a way to counter. Just shows how valuable he is to team India. Dhoni also mentioned in the TC that the team needed to experience different conditions as part of their development before next WC.

  • on July 5, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    Come on India!!! Your fans know that you are a far better team than the other two sides in the tournament. Definitely you will prove that the previous two defeats were just an aberration.

  • hnlns on July 5, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    Both SL and WI are not the strongest of oppositions, so Indians just need to play some decent cricket to get out of this hopeless position. The massive loss to SL is just the kind of kick on the butts that the Indian team needed, if they had become a bit complacent after the Champions trophy euphoria. They can and should come back strongly to earn back the 2 bonus points which they have gifted to WI and SL. They have shown that they can win tournaments without SRT, Sehwag, Gambhir or others, same logic should apply in case of MSD as well.

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:52 GMT

    Cont.. from Prev....

    But still we want Pujara to play as a player & as a captain in ODI. We don't like defeats. We have a short memory. We never keep wins & losses in our memory. IND plays 40 ODIs per year approx. Still we are giving importance to ODI only. The selectors picked new look team and for the first time since long time it is seen about their vision & firmness. There is no hope of YUVI, NEHRA, VIRU, Pravin would come back as they are not only far away from their best but they look dismal. Gambhir may come if he corrects his off side weaknesses though unlikely. Let this team play continuously under kohli no matter they lose 4-0 in WI & 5-0 in ZIM. Why do we need change? Kohli can't be MS in one night. We need to be calm and show some kind of patience now.

    By the way some outsiders have new gum to chew for next 17 years now after last ODI win as 1996 S/F seems to be very old. ENG fans need to be wary of Boof who may steal ashes & you will never know.

  • Nick_Singhal on July 5, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    Hoping to see some fire from Indian pace attack this time.....I will love to see Bhuvneshwar replacing Shami Ahmed as well as a slight reshuffle in the batting order as well.Murali Vijay should allow to open along with Shikhar Dhawan and Rohit Sharma can get back to his number 4 position.Virat Kohli should produce runs and Ashwin need to get breakthroughs.Indians have faced this kind of situation earlier also and they have achieved victory in the pathetic conditions too.It's time again to prove.....go Team India go.....:)

  • Night_Fury on July 5, 2013, 6:44 GMT

    the best way to preserve the quality of cricket and players is to separate teams in 2 tiers, with Eng/SA/IND/AUS in tier 1 and SL/PAK/WI/NZ in other tier. The same tier teams play each other more often and every 2-3 years tier 1 visit tier 2. This will allow better cricket and quality performances.

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:42 GMT

    I will wait for the series to complete to get an opinion, losing a couple of games I don't really think reflects a lot. But WI has been looking good which is very nice to see. They performed well in CT and now this.

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    IND wins CT 2013 and fans all over the IND & world started to change this winning young team for giving exposure to new faces. Although this winning combination is comprising of young best players in the country. 2 Defeats and chaos everywhere!! There is a problem among us that if we win, we want change winning combination. If we lose, then also we want to change the team. Who is going to be next captain? Is it Virat, Rohit, Raina, Ashwin, Gambhir or Pujara? So many suggestions by fans. After 1 defeat Virat seems to be immature. How? Now some people want to call back YUVI, VIRU, GAMBHIR. Some want Sanju Samson, Binny, Rishi Dhawan, Manoj Tiwary. Some want Nehra, Pravin. Some ask for Pujara. How many of us know that some of these are injured and some are playing in AUS under 19? The IPL has made some strange effects on us. The entire fans are divided into 8 groups. The selectors have kept Pujara for SA test and selecting players keeping in mind for SA. ....To be cont.....

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    First and foremost, no match or series is meaning less in my view. It is just that we lost the match due to our planning and tactics. Although we lost to W.I. narrowly, the lost to SL was just because of poor fielding, where we miised 2 many run out opportunity and also gave life to batsman like Mahela who could take away match away from opposition. And as always our bowling is not as threatening as other good teams and Selectors could not be blamed either because of not much available resources. So now their vital role of them is to ensure that we get quality pace bowlers who could swing and bowl according to the match situation. Because with the current set of bowlers we could win few matches and few series but cannot win constantly.

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:22 GMT

    Kohli was total mess in both last IPLs in captaincy. India need superior captain, experience will never change him because he can't control his anger. Bowlers needs to learn that length ball not works everyday. if pitch is slow, you have to go fast a bit and try yorkers and quick bouncers atleast once in every over. Bowl wide yorkers in death overs if batsman moves go to middle stump. Think with brain don't work like toys with keys and batteries.

  • on July 5, 2013, 6:20 GMT

    Top sides are not dependent on a couple of players to pull them through every tricky situation. Top sides have attacks that are not neutralized by conditions. Top sides do not let everything through in the field all day after proclaiming themselves as the best fielding unit...." (prime example is the Australia in their hay days- they never depend on one or two players and neither cares about the conditions )

  • Naresh28 on July 5, 2013, 6:12 GMT

    India has plenty of talented players. Clearly the fielding in the last game showed that India lacked intensity. Plain tired of the long road some of the players have been on. Look at our U19 team in OZ right now they are winning every game. Clearly our selectors should have given a break to some players and brought fresh ones in.

  • cric_leo on July 5, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    according to current situation there is no real no one ODI team at the moment (though India nominated as No 01 team at ICC rankings). the last clear No 01 ODI team was Aussie led by Rickey ponting, with the powers of Gilchrist, Hayden, Martyn, Warne, Symonds and Mcgrath. statistics wise or quality wise they had most devastating outfit at their ranks at that time. I don't think MSD led India have same amount of talent to dominate the cricketing world. even South Africa also struggling in sub continent conditions, there no clear No 01 team in ODIs.

  • on July 5, 2013, 5:51 GMT

    Kohli's out of form worry for India. If Kohli do something that mean's india hope alive in the series and rest too....

  • sachinisawesome on July 5, 2013, 5:47 GMT

    @ nickcarter80 "They played well in Champions trophy by but this team does not have the talent or consistency to become No. 1 side in the world." They are the no. 1 side in the world so they don't have to BECOME the no. 1 side in the world. Teams that u mentioned were thrashed by India couple of weeks ago. I guess u belong to one of those teams. Still hurting huh.

  • on July 5, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Top sides are not dependent on a couple of players to pull them through every tricky situation. Top sides have attacks that are not neutralised by conditions- Cant agree More!

    also Baffling to see Amit Mishra warming the Bench...he's as an attacking spinner and should be a perfect foil for R ashwin.... Ashwin, Jaddu and Mishra should form a dangerous troika...Kohli needs to show some leadership skills too

    India should give a chance to Rayudu, Mishra and should give one more chance to shami ahmed.

  • andrew27994 on July 5, 2013, 5:34 GMT

    Only now most Indian fans realise what a difference Dhoni makes to the team. When we suffered a big losing streak of 8-0 in Tests, everyone were calling for Dhoni's head. And some people want to change their opinions and say he is a good captain in ODIs but horrible in Tests. The fact is that our Test team was simply not good enough so we kept losing badly. Our batsmen in particular couldn't even save us Test matches. But when we changed our whole team structure, we got a completely different result. The fact is that we still have a very good side even without MSD but MSD is special because he can win us games from seemingly difficult situations. He is the calm head of the team. India need players who can perform under pressure. That's where players like Kohli, Raina and Rohit are very important in such situations.

  • on July 5, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    I think either Suresh Raina or Jadeja, should be promoted in batting order. Vijay could come at number 6 or bring in Irfan Pathan at 7 and leave Murali Vijay out. Shikhar Dhawan has not been a success in West Indis last time. He needs to work on his game here. Rohit Sharma, still remains under achiever, he has the talent and resources for a big innings, but he needs an attitude to play that.

  • on July 5, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    Its Really hard to understand why Suresh Raina is in the team. and why Yuvi is not there..!

  • calcu on July 5, 2013, 5:20 GMT

    Why is every one degrading India here. They are the no.1 side, winners of world cup and champions trophy and by far, The current best ODI side. Just one bad day means nothing!!

  • on July 5, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    guys give kohli a break... he has just got the captaincy responsibility.... let him captain for couple of tours.. he is a good learner, his improvement in batting is a good example for that... and he has bit of experience in handling the unmature team of under19..... so he will learn eventually.....

  • on July 5, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    The problem with India is they depend on Dhoni very much these days which is not a good thing for them or any other team to depend on a individual player! I dont think Dhoni would have done any better in the last match even if he was on the field. they deserve some loses like last much.

  • Sir_Ivor on July 5, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    I agree with Jose Puliampatta's views. The team looks devoid of motivation if the body language is any indication. I wish they give chances to everyone in the side to see how well they counter the conditions and the opposition. I wish the selectors had sent a team with some good young players.They would certainly have acquitted themselves creditably. In any case, probably as well as the present team is doing. Many players with promise come on considerably if they get a chance to rub shoulders with international opposition. Sandip Patil and his team would be well advised to keep this in mind when they select the team for Zimbabwe today.

  • on July 5, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    India was the best tram in the world bcaus the best captain lead them... but in last two matches Dhoni took no control over the team as he wanted to see how good virat is as a captain.!

    Now am juz waiting Msd to return fit.....best of luck team In.♥dia

  • AnoMaLy on July 5, 2013, 4:33 GMT

    Funny how the haters come out in force as soon as India starts to lose. Classic case of sour grapes. When you can win the big tourneys CONSISTENTLY then talk. nuff said

  • bharatvishwa on July 5, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    @jackthelad: Unfortunately what you dont remember is India won 6 ODI matches prior to the CT T20 final, 2011 World Cup and we are No 1 in the rankings. 2 losses in a row will not make us a bad team. India will be back to winning ways soon. The history is that England have not been able to win any of the Major ICC tournaments and they Choke in the crucial matches. Lets see if that will change.

  • attanayake1 on July 5, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    Kholi's mathematics paper

    India = Dhoni Dhoni = victory India - Dhoni = ??????

  • jimbond on July 5, 2013, 4:07 GMT

    jackthelad: Rankings dont come on the basis of one or two performances. It reflects consistency in performances, and India is the no. 1 ODI team for a reason. The way they won the CT was comprehensive. Had it not rained in the finals, probably the finals win also may have been more one sided. Injuries have brought in the focus on keeping freshness and backups. Rohit Sharma seems slightly better captaincy material than Kohli- possibly Gambhir is better than either of these two. No harm in trying Ashwin also as a captain. Even Kumble was never thought of as a captain earlier, and when he did become, he was the best test captain that India ever had. No harm in trying people like Rishi Dhawan and Jalaj Saxena and Rasool and also Samson.

  • on July 5, 2013, 4:06 GMT

    when they win they are invincible when they loss they are tired, too much cricket, lmao if u look at the stats, srilanka has played more cricket in last few years than any other team

  • Gustus on July 5, 2013, 3:55 GMT

    Has it struck anyone that no one really cares about meaningless tri series. It seems espncricinfo is promoting the importance of this series to keep the relevance. India are now reigning world cup and champions trophy champs. I am sure the next time we are in a compettive tournament the team will shine again. They need a break and then play the series against australia which will be a contender in 2015. Alos series in SA will be important for the type of pitches 2015 wc will ve played on.

  • on July 5, 2013, 3:46 GMT

    Hope for an another thrashing defeat for team India. WI go for the kill...

  • jaguar7777 on July 5, 2013, 3:41 GMT

    i am surprised no one is talking about amit mishra. on our last visit he was our main weapon against the west indies on slow west indian pitches.we must pick him from here on to stand any chance of progressing .i would certainly drop ishant sharma,the enigma and also bring in b kumar for s ahmed

  • on July 5, 2013, 3:27 GMT

    Good job India Keep loosing Go lanka go Cheers from canada

  • on July 5, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    Indian will definitely go out from the tournament... they deserve that i guess..

  • westindiesupporter on July 5, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    Go WI,show everyone that you are the best.My X1 for today-Gayle,charles,darren,dwayne,pollard,ramdin,samules,sammy,holder,roach,narine. Best should be replaced by holder.

  • Gopal321 on July 5, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Come on guys, all teams win and loose so the same for team India. But then this team is the world champs. Win when it matters most. That this team has done, not the others.

    Maybe Lisiki can achieve what this team has achieved.

  • anoop3301 on July 5, 2013, 2:04 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is the fittest Indian cricketer going around. While fielding he never dives, while bowling he never puts in enough efforts, while batting he has no attacking shots.A simple and effective way to prevent injuries and stay in the team for ever. What a fitness freak ! I bet he is going to overtake Courtney Walsh's record for most test matches by a fast bowler. Pity that we don't find more Ishants.Long live indian fast bowling.

  • on July 5, 2013, 1:55 GMT

    Talent filled sides. They need to focus more on technique and less on ability now. we all know they can play, whats remaining to be seen is how well. Indias success depends upon the newbies performing outside India, everywhere outside India. Fielding was a problem, if not fixed we may as well plead back Sachin, Saurav and Dravid in hopes of making runs, our fielders looked older than all of them.

  • nickcarter80 on July 5, 2013, 1:54 GMT

    India No. 1 side in the world? No way, SA, WI, PAK are way better than India. They played well in Champions trophy by but this team does not have the talent or consistency to become No. 1 side in the world. Specially bowling is not at all international material. Prepare a flat batting track, India will win, but when there is a good wicket they will fall like house of cards.

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 5, 2013, 1:05 GMT

    Ramdin out for 3rd bowler alongside Best and Roach please

  • on July 5, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    Mahindra Persaud-Bahamas

    I like the comparison made by Abitha on Sabine Lisici ,coming back from 3-0 in the final set against Serena Williams and winning the match at Wimbledon. India have been known to play outstanding cricket when they have their backs against the wall. One has to remember that India won the Perth test after Bucknor made some serious blunders in the Sydney test to give Australia victory. These young players lie Dhwan, Kholi, Bhuvaneshwar, Rohit, and more, have to understand that there will be both good and bad days as they transition from Tendulkar, Sehwag and Zaheer. It is not how many times you fall, but getting up, each time you fall is what counts. This tri-series needs a resurgent India! Perhaps the venue-Port of Spain-which brings precious memories for India including a magnificent chase of over 400 to win a test match and also a Tendulkar 100 in a winning cause, can provide some respite for India. A form West Indies will make this an exciting contest.

  • on July 5, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    Yes I can go with that 'TIRED' stuff. But it is not only the Indian players. U can clearly see that some of the stars in the other two teams also look tired. But then again look at some other sports eg Lawn tennis Williams and Nadal r out. The Spanish soccer team looked tired. Too much of one thing good for nothing. I suppose it is all about economics. Maybe.

  • on July 5, 2013, 0:11 GMT

    (1). India do not look motivated; looks more like they were "asked" to play to help out the finances of W I cricket. (2). When , nothing important to play for, why should they waste their time and risk injuries, as Dhoni did). Let SL & WI play the final. (3). Since they are already there, the only sensible thing to do now, is to give chances to ALL players to get some experience, in the conditions prevailing there. (4) Take the next two games, and the Zim tour as "developmental" games, keeping in mind the long term goal of finding a bunch 15-20 young players to represent the country for another 5 years. or a bit more.

    Let us be realistic (instead of making bombastic claims, after winning an ICC trophy)

  • on July 4, 2013, 23:05 GMT

    This tournament is by no means meaningless..It shows that even thou you won a title you could still be trashed the very next match..If India is such a champion then they should keep beating their opposition and win another title.Stop complaining about playing too much cricket because the next time you will complain you didn't play enough cricket. They won seven straight games werent those meaningless to them or the other teams as well? England let the final game slip otherwise India wouldn't have no CT TITLE.Come on Please stop finding excuses for India's trashing..

  • Haider-pak-awsome on July 4, 2013, 22:55 GMT

    Indian team without Dhon is clueless. There is no fire in bowling in absence of Zaheer / Pathan. WI is going to win another one with probably bonus point.

  • usernames on July 4, 2013, 22:54 GMT

    Ha, the serious *is* useless, no matter what others say! But, for all those bashing Kohli, give him some time. In the longer run, he would be a better captain than Rohit because if these losses hurt him, you can bet he will make a team better than any other Indian team in a couple of years!

  • somethingdifferent on July 4, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    I donot think anyone can pin point the reason for these unexpected indian losses. Batting failure can be due to the lack of experience of W Indian wickets but one fails to understand why the bowling is unable to extract any help from these wickets whereas the other two attacks are doing fairly well. Fatigue is no excuse as most of the West Indian and Sri Lankan players have been continuously playing in IPL and CT as well.

  • KajenW on July 4, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    I dont understand this talk of "a tired Indian team." It is completely inexcusable, look at Sri Lanka and the West Indies. Not all of but some of their key players took part in the IPL also. In fact look at SL before the IPL they had bilateral series consisting of test matches and ODIs with Bangladesh, you dont hear them or their fans complaining. The cricketer's job is to win games consistenly, they dont need a vacation.

  • Cpt.Meanster on July 4, 2013, 22:36 GMT

    @jackthelad: Err.. which team are you talking about ? Please be a bit more specific next time. If you meant India, then all I can say is that India have been one of the FEW teams in the history of cricket to always feature in the top 3 or 4 of the ICC rankings for each of the formats. They are currently no.1 in ODIs, no.3 in tests, and no.3 in T20s. That's pretty good IMO. Besides, any person left with an ounce of sanity wouldn't pay too much attention to this particular series right after a major ICC event. It's just like how the English do not read too much into an ODI cash cow following the Ashes.

  • on July 4, 2013, 22:29 GMT

    It would have been interesting what the comments from Indian fans would have looked like if they had won the first two matches. All I am seeing is comments from sore loosers. enough said.

  • on July 4, 2013, 22:11 GMT

    I love the number of people outside India who hate Indian cricket,maybe because of the BCCI or maybe because of the arrogance of some of the Indian posters over here. To be honest,no series is meaningless,but it's just that this one doesn't excite many Indian fans. Not an excuse,still especially the way we played against Lanka in the last match. I think,with Dhoni out of the series,this will be a good learning curve for Kohli and this is bit of a trailer as far as Indian captaincy is concerned for Kohli. You can write off the Indian team. I think Umesh needs a break and not BK. Vijay is a useless player,Rayadu needs to play at 4-5. This is a pretty good team,it was only weeks back that this team was beating every other side in a high profile ICC tournament. I just laugh when people criticise the same set of players who they praising a week back. Anyways,I believe in all these players and 2 failures don't trouble me at all. We have a good team keeping 2015 WC in mind. No problems at all

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    to jackthelad: you sound like you haven't got over your bitterness at England losing yet another ODI final. England were beaten despite having the better of the conditions. If England had had to bat through stop/start with rain, the game would have been a repeat of India's semi against SL.

    And if you are writing India off based on one ("morning after the night before" performance against Sri Lanka, then maybe we should do the same to England for their 20/20 defeat against NZ, ha?

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:46 GMT

    Mr. Lasantha: I can not say " Mr. Mahela is a good player now". Indian misfielding lead him to reach century. Mr. Kohli does not have enough experience to lead the team. They have to bring Mr. Bhuvanesh in coming match.

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    Best india team now 1 Shikhar Dhawan, 2 Rohit Sharma, 3 M Vijay, 4 Virat Kohli (capt), 5 Dinesh Karthik (wk), 6 Suresh Raina, 7 Ravindra Jadeja, 8 R Ashwin, 9 Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 10 Ishant Sharma, 11 Vinay Kumar,

  • Temuzin on July 4, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    @Nampally: I like your comments because you are never satisfied even with your own decisions. You change one captain everyday. When Dhoni was failing you were telling us that Kohli should be made captain and now yesterday you were asking for Pujara to be captain and today you are endorsing Rohit sharma. Keep going man by the end of Zimbabwe series you may pick 11 different captains and 111 different players. That way all Indian fans will be satisfied. Its another matter that all 11 captains will fail and India will be back to to early days when drawing a test was considered a victory. Keep going maan I am loving it.

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:17 GMT

    I hope wi play sri in final,,,no Dhoni ,,no fun

  • on July 4, 2013, 21:13 GMT

    Indian players just seem exhausted. First the IPL, the Champions Trophy, then..... the games go on and on and on. Let them rest up for a few weeks and then will be good again. This team doesn't have the talent to be called great. But it gells together well and so wins often. Individually, Ashwin is not in the same class as Ajmal; the pacers are novices when compared with Anderson or Stein. Kohli is promising; the others are touch and miss. A very strange outfit I must say.

  • on July 4, 2013, 20:54 GMT

    Please stop comparing India vs other teams. We are what we are. A mericural team with up and down performances. When our batting clicks, we invariably win else No!! Its that simple.

  • Abitha on July 4, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    If the Going is Tough the Tough gets going, the Saying goes. Ask Sabine Lisiki. 0-3 down she still won. Hope the Indian team takes a leaf from her page and win the remaining matches in Style and the Cup. Good Luck Team India. Kashinath

  • raiden0411 on July 4, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    There are many factors to consider here. It is extremely difficult to play in the Caribbean after winning a Champions Trophy. I bet all they want to do is party. The inexperience of a temperamental Captain The inexperience of the entire team The continuous games that have been scheduled without any breaks I say just try out the remaining bench for the rest of the series.

  • on July 4, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    Two things: Indeed Indian players have been playing too much cricket, causing them to lose their vigour.

    Secondly, the team's pace bowling department continues to be deserted (except Bhuvi who seems to sit slightly higher than the rest). We're and will be champions just for namesake, until we form a team impactful enough to be deservedly identified as so. Not to forget, our test record remains dismal for quite some time.

    Hightime we gave guys like Siddharth Kaul and Varun Aaron a go. Zimbabwe series a golden chance to start grooming them at the international level.

  • on July 4, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    THIS IS CRICKET GUYS,DONT CRY.. some body need to loose no body cannot win every day - with love 4m SriLanka

  • jackthelad on July 4, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    I do like the idea that India are the best One-Day team in the world; they won a 20/20 match because England's captaincy was stupidly inflexible whereas Dhoni was prepared to change (and even then they just scraped it). This is a nonsense team riding on a couple of results produced by new bowlers no-one had seen and the same old battering-ram batsmen. Give it six months and they will be history.

  • calcu on July 4, 2013, 19:40 GMT

    @cpt.meanster Agree with you

  • Vishal_07 on July 4, 2013, 19:22 GMT

    Like I said after the CT, don't shower this team with too much praise and don't diss them after couple of poor performances. This team is young and need to go through growing pains as all young people do.

    You don't replace the likes of Tendulkar, Sehwag, Zaheer in a matter of couple of series. Height was when some media pundits compared the CT winning team to the WC winning team!

    Go Team India, main thing is to prepare for the longevity, one win or two here and there is not the goal.

  • on July 4, 2013, 19:04 GMT

    India will qualify for the finals. They will lift the tropy as well.

  • darsh127 on July 4, 2013, 18:47 GMT

    Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Karthik, Raina, Rayudu, Jadeja, Mishra, Bhuvi, Shami, Umesh .. This has to be it.

  • on July 4, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    This is nothing new from team India while think they are still a very good outfit they seriously need to work on their traditional anchilles heel which is consistency people seem to forget that India like Pakistan have been notorious for being unpredictable in the past.

  • Cpt.Meanster on July 4, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    I've said it before and I will say it again. India don't look interested in this series. They have achieved what they came for - the Champions Trophy 2013. This series is a cash cow however you look at it. Having said that, India will still look to win their remaining two matches but at the end of the day, it's not necessary at all. There is nothing at stake here, no major ICC trophy to be won, no reputation at stake etc. So good luck to these young champs. Please keep your minds and bodies fresh for South Africa - that's the big deal later this year.

  • Nampally on July 4, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    Deva, I find your write up very factual & interesting. Yes, Top Teams have more than 2 batsmen & more than 2 bowlers to fall back on. Indian batting was riding on the backs of Top 3 + 2 finishers in Dhoni & Raina. Its bowling was mainly dictated by Ashwin & Jadeja in spin & B.Kumar in pace. If any of these guys is injured or fails, the team is in trouble. The 5 reserve players should have been the alternate guys to fill in. But none are in the same "class". Actually, even the alternate Captain to Dhoni does not exist in all 3 formats. This is poor planning. Other point that needs thought is rotation of players & resting even the stars. India played the same XI in ICC Trophy for all matches. Pathan & vinay kumar never got a chance. Nor did Vijay until the last match. Why are the reserves in the squad? If they are not good enough, get guys who are as good as those in XI. Mohit Sharma & Rasool in bowling & Pujara & Uthappa in batting are as good as any in this XI. Also name a V.Captain.

  • wolfofthepack on July 4, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    am still trying to understand something ! why are people referring to this series as meaningless, of no importance and so fort? last I checked they are sanctioned by ICC, they affect the rank of the teams if they lose or win, records in the match are recorded as ODIs ! so what nonsense people keep saying that these are meaningless matches especially for indian !

  • Navraj1967 on July 4, 2013, 18:29 GMT

    I still can't believe Murali Vijay and Ishant Sharma is still playing after loosing big time??? They both don't deserve the place to play anymore. I don't think they even good enough to play in Test Matches. I am sure India's has much better batsman n Bowlers in Front Line then them.

  • on July 4, 2013, 18:19 GMT

    With pitches being slow,why india doesnt play a spinner more with a talent like mishra warming up the bench,and what was kohli doing by droping bhuvaneshwar,bhuvi was the one picking up early wickets he should be chosen in place of shammi ahmed,and Mishra in for Ishant,there are lot of right hander's in west indies team,so why not play Mishra,And what was M Vijay doing at 3, the team and batting line up should be Rohit and dhawan opening,virat at 3,kartik at 4,raina at 5,vijay at 6,jadega at 7,8th for ashwin,9th for bhuvi,10th for mishra and 11th for yadav,and if virat kohli takes the risk and play all out he should drop karthik or Vijay as they have not performed,n Vijay nt fit fot this team he should play Ishant in place of one of these batsman,as bhuvi ,ashwin and mishra are useful contributor. :)

  • Nampally on July 4, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    @Anand Palwankar: I endorse your suggestion in giving the Captaincy role to Rohit Sharma. India rely heavily upon 2 batsmen to lead their scoring- Dhawan & Kohli. Rohit has captained a strong Mumbai team in IPL & even in some Ranji games, creditably. Rohit is also a very calm & cool customer- unruffled by the situation. It is strange that India has sent a team abroad with no thoughts to an alternate captain should Dhoni get injured. Even as things stand, India does not have an alternate, although they were grooming Pujara via India A channel. Strangely, Pujara is not even in the squad! Also I felt that for this WI leg of the tour India needed reinforcements both in batting & bowling. Pace bowlers who are more accurate than Yadev & Ishant are available- Mohit Sharma. Praveen. In batting Pujara, Chand & Samson are all fresh & fit. It is good to rotate the team with fresh bodies. Dhoni's Hamstring injury is due to a over exertion. England rotate their players regularly.Why not India?

  • on July 4, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    I think Kohli has the skill to become a great captain- but he's only had 1.5 chances! I think Kohli should lead India in Zimbabwe and see how that is. And about India, they'll comeback strongly, because they've probably done their homework and are prepared for this match. Good luck Kohli- and good luck India!! :D

  • Shaikhzaid on July 4, 2013, 17:55 GMT

    We Should Play with Shami Ahmed.Bhuvi & Umesh.Left out I.Sharma worst bowler in ODI

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:45 GMT

    what ever happens we are with you Team India..give your best shot...All the best...

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    shami ahmed is better than ùmesh

  • josphe on July 4, 2013, 17:30 GMT

    Kohli should not be moved from his normal #3 position where he has batted for most of his ODI career and scored loads of runs.

  • andrew27994 on July 4, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Regardless of how badly they lost to SL, I still feel India are going to comeback strongly tomorrow. They were just too complacent last match and paid the price for it. Hopefully guys like Virat, Raina and Rohit take more responsibility and lead the side to victory.

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    Indian team was clueless against Sri-Lanka. It was a school boy performance, perhaps missing their captain/mentor. In pace bowling, I believe Shami Ahmed is much better bowler than Umesh Yadav, he was more economical as well. Umesh should be rested and Ahmed given another game.

  • 504429641 on July 4, 2013, 17:08 GMT

    I am not making an excuse here for India's losses, but this series is really useless for India (considering it was originally WI Vs SL test series). We had no time to celebrate the Champions Trophy success; immediately this series and then again we have to travel to Zimbabwe. If this series is not there, then we could have got a much deserved break to celebrate Champions Trophy success. Continuous series without breaks, means welcoming injuries also like for Dhoni. One thing can atleast be done from now; which is to give the remaining 4 members in the 15 (other than regular XI) a chance like for Rayudu, Mishra and Vinay kumar (Shami got a chance). this will atleast give some rest to the other 4.

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Please free Virat from the leadership load. Make Rohit or Raina the capatain. Virat is totally loosing his charm under pressure. It is always prooved that good batsman is notatall nessessory to be a good captain. In histry there are so many examples. Right from Don Bradman to Sachin Tendulkar. Virat is a class batsman. Make him free from the load. We saw Rohit cool and calm in IPL while leading MI. I know IPL is totally different game from an international. But a judgement can be made. When MI struggling initally the bold decision was taken and Rohit made histry winning 10 games out of 13 including title. Here also two matches are left. Do or die condition for India. Shft leadership from Virat to Rohit. It may click for Rohit. Virat is simply not perferct for the job. He is an extraordinarry batsman India needs. I was expecting some thrilling batting performance from Virat yesterday. But under extra pressure he was out for 2 only in 4 balls. Indian team mannagement should think about.

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:58 GMT

    Ashwin has performed well in the test arena so far and he has taken a slightly defensive role in ODIs after the rise of Jadeja as the attacking spinner... so it is not right to blame him for letting the team down... wonder why no mention has been made about Virat's strange captaincy tactics... he is no doubt instinctive as a captain, but he leaves a lot to be desired especially in his policy of rotating his bowlers... he needs to learn a lot from Dhoni in this area!

  • Otuwa on July 4, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    India's main purpose is help to SLan and WIan cricket boards in this series.So they don't take this series as a seriously.This series is just another vacation for them.Also Indian fans watch casually this matches and they call this series as a meaningless.Indian fans and team take as a meaningful only WCs and CTs.Other tournaments are practice session for them.I wish you to Kohli learn few captain tips and wish you rest of the team learn something from windies.Just enough for 2015wc.Win or Lose doesn't matter important thing is learn something in every match.Good Luck.

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    India will make a comeback !

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:47 GMT

    India will make a comeback !

  • Otuwa on July 4, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    India's main purpose is help to SLan and WIan cricket boards in this series.So they don't take this series as a seriously.This series is just another vacation for them.Also Indian fans watch casually this matches and they call this series as a meaningless.Indian fans and team take as a meaningful only WCs and CTs.Other tournaments are practice session for them.I wish you to Kohli learn few captain tips and wish you rest of the team learn something from windies.Just enough for 2015wc.Win or Lose doesn't matter important thing is learn something in every match.Good Luck.

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:58 GMT

    Ashwin has performed well in the test arena so far and he has taken a slightly defensive role in ODIs after the rise of Jadeja as the attacking spinner... so it is not right to blame him for letting the team down... wonder why no mention has been made about Virat's strange captaincy tactics... he is no doubt instinctive as a captain, but he leaves a lot to be desired especially in his policy of rotating his bowlers... he needs to learn a lot from Dhoni in this area!

  • on July 4, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Please free Virat from the leadership load. Make Rohit or Raina the capatain. Virat is totally loosing his charm under pressure. It is always prooved that good batsman is notatall nessessory to be a good captain. In histry there are so many examples. Right from Don Bradman to Sachin Tendulkar. Virat is a class batsman. Make him free from the load. We saw Rohit cool and calm in IPL while leading MI. I know IPL is totally different game from an international. But a judgement can be made. When MI struggling initally the bold decision was taken and Rohit made histry winning 10 games out of 13 including title. Here also two matches are left. Do or die condition for India. Shft leadership from Virat to Rohit. It may click for Rohit. Virat is simply not perferct for the job. He is an extraordinarry batsman India needs. I was expecting some thrilling batting performance from Virat yesterday. But under extra pressure he was out for 2 only in 4 balls. Indian team mannagement should think about.

  • 504429641 on July 4, 2013, 17:08 GMT

    I am not making an excuse here for India's losses, but this series is really useless for India (considering it was originally WI Vs SL test series). We had no time to celebrate the Champions Trophy success; immediately this series and then again we have to travel to Zimbabwe. If this series is not there, then we could have got a much deserved break to celebrate Champions Trophy success. Continuous series without breaks, means welcoming injuries also like for Dhoni. One thing can atleast be done from now; which is to give the remaining 4 members in the 15 (other than regular XI) a chance like for Rayudu, Mishra and Vinay kumar (Shami got a chance). this will atleast give some rest to the other 4.

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    Indian team was clueless against Sri-Lanka. It was a school boy performance, perhaps missing their captain/mentor. In pace bowling, I believe Shami Ahmed is much better bowler than Umesh Yadav, he was more economical as well. Umesh should be rested and Ahmed given another game.

  • andrew27994 on July 4, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Regardless of how badly they lost to SL, I still feel India are going to comeback strongly tomorrow. They were just too complacent last match and paid the price for it. Hopefully guys like Virat, Raina and Rohit take more responsibility and lead the side to victory.

  • josphe on July 4, 2013, 17:30 GMT

    Kohli should not be moved from his normal #3 position where he has batted for most of his ODI career and scored loads of runs.

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    shami ahmed is better than ùmesh

  • on July 4, 2013, 17:45 GMT

    what ever happens we are with you Team India..give your best shot...All the best...