Australia in West Indies 2011-12 April 28, 2012

Hilfenhaus and Wade matched only by Chanderpaul

Marks out of ten for Australia and West Indies after the three-Test series in the Caribbean
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Australia

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Matthew Wade
Can be said to have graduated his Caribbean education with honours. Kept wicket neatly and with little fuss, claiming several difficult snares as balls skimmed through low off pitches of subcontinental character, while also handling the spinners with increasing skill. Scrapped for his runs in Barbados and Trinidad, then lorded over the West Indies bowlers with the innings of the series in Dominica. Selectors have a debate on their hands to separate Wade and Brad Haddin.

Ben Hilfenhaus
Followed an indifferent first innings of the series with the most critical of the tour in the second, cutting through the West Indies top order to set up the possibility of a win. Took at least one new-ball wicket at the start of every innings from that point, while also striking a handful of heavy blows with the bat.

8
Michael Clarke (capt)
Clarke's personal contributions included handy runs, particularly in Barbados, and match-sealing wickets in Dominica. But it was his astute and aggressive captaincy that again showed the way for his team. Declarations in Barbados and Trinidad showed his eagerness to pursue results, while he also won a pivotal toss in Roseau. Greater challenges await, but Clarke's leadership appears to be up to them.

Ryan Harris
Man of the Match in Barbados, contributing his best international score and bookending it with vital wickets. Was then rested for Trinidad and appeared to struggle a little for rhythm in Dominica, though still bowling several sharp spells. Highly valued and will be carefully managed for however long his battered body can last.

7
Michael Hussey
Often coming into bat under pressure, Hussey did not make huge runs but all were valuable. Showed how best to bat on a vexing Trinidad surface, and played one of the best short innings of recent times to shepherd home the final-evening chase in Barbados. Added another notable wicket to his Test tally, this time Darren Bravo.

Mitchell Starc
Bowled countless overs in the nets before a call-up for the third Test in which he contributed usefully with bat as well as ball. Two first-innings wickets included Chanderpaul's, and scores of 35 and 21 provided a sting in Australia's tail. A sound developmental tour.

Nathan Lyon
Though he struggled with the ball in Barbados, Lyon demonstrated the attitude of a fighter by combining with Harris for critical runs to help open up the match. Regathered himself admirably in Trinidad and Dominica, taking the wickets Clarke needed from him as the lead spinner on turning pitches. Is developing nicely and already has a record the envy of many Australia offspinners past.

6
Shane Watson
Moved to No. 3 but continued to perform as he had done as an opener - lots of starts, no big scores, and plenty of intelligent overs with the ball. Culpability in the horrific run-out of Ricky Ponting in Barbados has forced Watson to address a considerable weakness in his game. Next will be the matter of making more of his starts.

Peter Siddle
Bowled sturdily in Barbados until a back complaint ruled him out of the rest of the series. Not expected to be bowling for at least a couple of months. A Test match specialist.

5
Ed Cowan
A struggle. Made starts in Barbados and Trinidad and a first-innings duck in Dominica before recovering with a battling 55 in his final innings. Well out of his comfort zone on slow, turning pitches, and will be reassessed at home against South Africa. Had a few brain fades running between the wickets but excelled in the field.

David Warner
Showed plenty of attacking intent as expected, and also worked hard to adjust his game to spin, making more progress in that area than he has previously. Was repeatedly undone outside off stump by West Indies' disciplined line, however, and can expect more of the same in future series. Legspin shows promise.

Ricky Ponting
Bereft of good fortune more than good form, Ponting did not pass 50 until his final innings of the tour, but his 57 was important in setting up Australia's lead in Dominica. The duel with Kemar Roach fascinated again and there are no signs that Ponting has any intention of retiring. Set training and preparation standards as ever but will need runs against South Africa.

James Pattinson
Replaced Harris in Trinidad but struggled for rhythm until a back injury forced him out of the remainder of the series. Made important first-innings runs with Hussey, however. May return in time for England ODI tour.

Michael Beer
Played as the second spinner on a sharply spinning Trinidad surface and took the new ball. Had done well in Shield cricket to earn his recall. Will have one eye on 2013 India test tour.

West Indies

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Shivnarine Chanderpaul
The oldest man in the series at 37, he was also the most outstanding batsman. His 346 runs in five innings were almost all made with his team in a crisis. Just once, in the second innings in Barbados did he not get at least 50. In conditions that challenged batsmen's technique and their temperament, he showed himself to be a master of both. Passing 10,000 runs in the third Test was just par for the pitch.

8
Kemar Roach
Broke new ground in his career with 10 wickets in the second Test and was the leader of the attack ahead of the out-of-sorts and eventually injured Fidel Edwards. He got better as the series went on, adding consistency of line and length to his already established pace. Roach also did not shy away from bowling in hot conditions and on sluggish pitches. His 19 wickets made him the series leader. Was also a stubborn contributor with the bat.

Shane Shilllingford
The offspinner, back with a rehabilitated bowling action, was a good foil to Roach in Trinidad and a more-than-adequate replacement for the off-colour Devendra Bishoo with his excellent control. Used his knowledge of conditions in his native Dominica to best effect to take 10 wickets in the match and finish with 14 in the series at a decent 26.14.

7
Darren Sammy (capt)
As a bowler he did not have the partnership-breaking impact as in past series but as a batsman and captain he flourished. Sammy put together his best collection of scores since taking over the captaincy. Batting at No. 8 - and in the case of the second-innings run chase in Trinidad, No.3 - he played to his strength and attacked, while being generally more selective of which balls to hit. Players responded well to his positive leadership.

6
Kirk Edwards
A series which started with a confident 61 in Barbados was curtailed by a knee injury. His presence and runs at No. 3 in the order were greatly missed.

Darren Bravo
Of the established/specialist batsmen in the series, only Chanderpaul (86.50) and Wade (39.60) averaged higher than Bravo at 36.80. On pitches not conducive to free-scoring, especially in Trinidad and Dominica, he never failed to reach double figures in completed innings, but only once carried on to 50. Needed to give more support to Chanderpaul. Much improved in the field though.

Narsingh Deonarine
Brought in to fill the gap left by Marlon Samuels, the left-hander did not get sufficient runs despite his half-century in the Trinidad Test. His nine wickets bowling economical offspin though were useful and 4 for 53 in the first Test raised outside hopes of a West Indies victory.

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Carlton Baugh In a difficult series for keeping wicket, he missed the odd catch and stumping, but was generally reliable. However, did not deliver the needed runs at No. 7 in the order, managing just 83 in five knocks, which wasn't considered good enough to keep his place for the England tour.

Ravi Rampaul
Injury and illness made him a non-starter until Edwards' sore back put him out of the final Test. Did not seem his fittest in Dominica and got just one wicket but still contributed with the bat.

Fidel Edwards
Bowled with his usual heart, pace and aggression in the first two Tests before getting injured. Dropped catches robbed him of more than three wickets. Not in his best rhythm, tended to be erratic with line and length.

4
Adrian Barath
Fit for all three Tests after a finger injury, the little man struggled throughout, scoring just 65 runs in six innings. Had a highest opening partnership of just 38 with Kraigg Brathwaite. Loose strokes and misjudgement were often the causes of his downfall.

Kraigg Brathwaite
A bright start--57 in his opening knock of the series in Barbados--was followed by three scoreless innings in a row before he got on the board again in his last innings. He showed a susceptibility to balls in the corridor outside off stump. Was an asset in the field and still only 19.

Kieran Powell
Was asked to fill Edwards' slot in the last two Tests, although he was promoted to open in the second innings in Trinidad when West Indies were chasing victory. Normally an opener, he still always found himself facing the new ball but struggled to convert three decent starts into at least one half-century. An attractive strokeplayer he was undone by technical mistakes.

Devendra Bishoo
Last year's ICC Emerging Player of the Year, Bishoo's poor form quickly left him out of favour with the selectors. He did not play after the first Test where he got just one wicket. Needs to tighten up on his control of length.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Sunil_Batra on May 1, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    @Chris_P, Khawaja is not leaving NSW because he can't get games, he is their best batsman and has been for the last 3 years, Cowan on the other hand left NSW because he couldn't get any games and was averaging less then 20 for them. Do i need to say more.

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    @@RahulNagaraj. I see Khawaja looks like moving to Queensland. Now, by your definition, he doesn't really rate now, does he? Hand in your membership badge.

  • Paul_Rampley on May 1, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    Guys both Khawaja and Cowan are good players, this argument is pointless, what's important is that we have a team to claim the Ashes and i think it should include Khawaja and it will once he gets a good start to the shield season, he is too good of a batsman to keep out.

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    RahulNagaraj & mari2619. Are you guys Kwawaja's fan club members? Not one person has said he isn't a better prospect than Cowan, just that he doesn't deserve a run in the Australian side at present due to him not performing. When he performs & earns his way there by sheer weight of runs, then he'll be a fine servant to Australian cricket. That's how Cowan forced selection. Historically, Aussies don't dump players too quickly (although there have been a couple of exceptions) & allow them time to settle in. Although Cowan hasn't set the world on fire, he hasn't been an abject failure either (read Marsh's efforts v India). He has done enough to earn another shot next summer, but his chances are slim if he doesn't perform. Not sure what blogs you're talking about, but cricket followers I hang with have read minimal talk about Cowan talking himself up, as have I. Shrugs.

  • Sunil_Batra on May 1, 2012, 8:46 GMT

    Khawaja is a class above Cowan, and go to any aussie website and you will see bloggers talking about Cowan's annoying ability to talk himself up every chance he gets, enough is enough, we can't take it anymore.If Cowan is good enough he will score against SA, if he doesn't then he has to be dropped

  • Mary_786 on May 1, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    @LewisEdwards and @RahulNagaraj, agree with you on Khawaja, he is a classy player and much better prospect then Cowan. I myself have also seen many comments on Aussie sites on people finding Cowan talking himself up very annoying. I feel Cowan will do the same again in the SA series, try to talk himself up if he fails to get any 100s, he is a master at it. Agree with IndiaGoats, Tendulkar is the best.

  • dunger.bob on May 1, 2012, 8:23 GMT

    This whole Cowan/Kawaja thing is a pretty good litmus test of the state of our batting. We're fighting it out over 2 guys with 40'ish averages here. Does the phrase "shuffling the deck-chairs on the Titanic" mean anything these days? .. what we need is a young batting prodigy, maybe even two, to burst forth in the next season or two. .. someone whose form is so totally compelling that we can forget fiddling about with players who are averaging in the low 40's. .. it's a nice dream but let's face it, we are just about due another one. The last player who was spotted early and went on to a half decent career was the current captain, and that was a while back now. .. Oh yes, Australia is due a new batting star so I live in hope. .. also I don't care where he or his parents were born as long as he loves Australia too and really wants to play for us.

  • Meety on May 1, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    @Chris_P - I think there was a famous pace bowler who also went to QLD, he had a reputation for being very very fast (he of 160 mph fame), Tom Jeffson, Geoff Thomkins? LOL!

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 0:11 GMT

    @Meety. What was his name? Alan, Aidan, Adam someone????? LOL. I seem to recall a certain Aussie cricket captain in the 80's & early 90's who also left NSW, Allan something??? @RahulNagaraj, just for you, we are speaking about Gilchrist & Border, 2 guys who left NSW and didn't perform too badly in test cricket I would suggest! You can also add Jeff Thomson into that mix, LOL.

  • Meety on April 30, 2012, 23:43 GMT

    @RahulNagaraj - I like many others on this site have enough intelligence to differntiate Cowan's articles on this site as a fascinating insight into an International cricketers perspective & Cowan talking about were his own performances sit. Cowan is one of the best contributors to cricinfo, possibly the best of the current players worldwide, his comments about his own performance his opinion & he is free to make that call! As for Cowan leaving NSW, some wicket keeping batsmen of worldwide fame did the same over a decade ago, forget what his name is, I think he is still playing in the IPL 5 yrs after retirement. @jmcilhinney - well said.

  • Sunil_Batra on May 1, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    @Chris_P, Khawaja is not leaving NSW because he can't get games, he is their best batsman and has been for the last 3 years, Cowan on the other hand left NSW because he couldn't get any games and was averaging less then 20 for them. Do i need to say more.

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    @@RahulNagaraj. I see Khawaja looks like moving to Queensland. Now, by your definition, he doesn't really rate now, does he? Hand in your membership badge.

  • Paul_Rampley on May 1, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    Guys both Khawaja and Cowan are good players, this argument is pointless, what's important is that we have a team to claim the Ashes and i think it should include Khawaja and it will once he gets a good start to the shield season, he is too good of a batsman to keep out.

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    RahulNagaraj & mari2619. Are you guys Kwawaja's fan club members? Not one person has said he isn't a better prospect than Cowan, just that he doesn't deserve a run in the Australian side at present due to him not performing. When he performs & earns his way there by sheer weight of runs, then he'll be a fine servant to Australian cricket. That's how Cowan forced selection. Historically, Aussies don't dump players too quickly (although there have been a couple of exceptions) & allow them time to settle in. Although Cowan hasn't set the world on fire, he hasn't been an abject failure either (read Marsh's efforts v India). He has done enough to earn another shot next summer, but his chances are slim if he doesn't perform. Not sure what blogs you're talking about, but cricket followers I hang with have read minimal talk about Cowan talking himself up, as have I. Shrugs.

  • Sunil_Batra on May 1, 2012, 8:46 GMT

    Khawaja is a class above Cowan, and go to any aussie website and you will see bloggers talking about Cowan's annoying ability to talk himself up every chance he gets, enough is enough, we can't take it anymore.If Cowan is good enough he will score against SA, if he doesn't then he has to be dropped

  • Mary_786 on May 1, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    @LewisEdwards and @RahulNagaraj, agree with you on Khawaja, he is a classy player and much better prospect then Cowan. I myself have also seen many comments on Aussie sites on people finding Cowan talking himself up very annoying. I feel Cowan will do the same again in the SA series, try to talk himself up if he fails to get any 100s, he is a master at it. Agree with IndiaGoats, Tendulkar is the best.

  • dunger.bob on May 1, 2012, 8:23 GMT

    This whole Cowan/Kawaja thing is a pretty good litmus test of the state of our batting. We're fighting it out over 2 guys with 40'ish averages here. Does the phrase "shuffling the deck-chairs on the Titanic" mean anything these days? .. what we need is a young batting prodigy, maybe even two, to burst forth in the next season or two. .. someone whose form is so totally compelling that we can forget fiddling about with players who are averaging in the low 40's. .. it's a nice dream but let's face it, we are just about due another one. The last player who was spotted early and went on to a half decent career was the current captain, and that was a while back now. .. Oh yes, Australia is due a new batting star so I live in hope. .. also I don't care where he or his parents were born as long as he loves Australia too and really wants to play for us.

  • Meety on May 1, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    @Chris_P - I think there was a famous pace bowler who also went to QLD, he had a reputation for being very very fast (he of 160 mph fame), Tom Jeffson, Geoff Thomkins? LOL!

  • Chris_P on May 1, 2012, 0:11 GMT

    @Meety. What was his name? Alan, Aidan, Adam someone????? LOL. I seem to recall a certain Aussie cricket captain in the 80's & early 90's who also left NSW, Allan something??? @RahulNagaraj, just for you, we are speaking about Gilchrist & Border, 2 guys who left NSW and didn't perform too badly in test cricket I would suggest! You can also add Jeff Thomson into that mix, LOL.

  • Meety on April 30, 2012, 23:43 GMT

    @RahulNagaraj - I like many others on this site have enough intelligence to differntiate Cowan's articles on this site as a fascinating insight into an International cricketers perspective & Cowan talking about were his own performances sit. Cowan is one of the best contributors to cricinfo, possibly the best of the current players worldwide, his comments about his own performance his opinion & he is free to make that call! As for Cowan leaving NSW, some wicket keeping batsmen of worldwide fame did the same over a decade ago, forget what his name is, I think he is still playing in the IPL 5 yrs after retirement. @jmcilhinney - well said.

  • RandyOZ on April 30, 2012, 22:59 GMT

    @IndiaGoats - spot on mate. When it comes to failing in the second innings, chasing records and not performing when the team needs you, there has never been better!

  • IndiaGoats on April 30, 2012, 17:23 GMT

    Tendulkar is the best.

  • Harry_Kool on April 30, 2012, 15:46 GMT

    @RahulNagaraj. I'm a cricket tragic and go to many sites to read, but I haven't ever seen much written about whether Cowan is liked or not. I actually like him as he has a solid technique, he is close to that breakout innings most players are looking for when initially playing tests. Khawaja is someone I have a lot of time for as I have seen him play many innings for NSW, but his form has nosedived after Hobart. He is not ready to come into the Aussie team yet. Was he hard done by after Hobart, yes he was, but he hasn't knocked the door down deserving a palce, and he or others shouldn't be selected until their figures demand they get selected. Actually, out of all the batsmen dropped in the past 12 months, Smith is the only one who has actually made an effort to correct their sloppy habits. I believe he will return sooner than later into the team if his rate of improvement continues. @jmcilhinney, your figures makes it hard to argue otherwise. good point.

  • Sunil_Batra on April 30, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, go on any Aussie cricket site and you will see comments about how people don't like Cowan talking his scores up, for him a 20 is a 50 and 50 a 100. Most aussies myself included cannot stand this quality. And how he continues to be in the team at an average of 29 is beyond me. You sure you are not related to Cowan mate, its ok if you are. And if you forgot Cowan left NSW because we wouldn't pick him in the team, so if he wasn't good enough for NSW then not sure how he will survive in the Australian team.

  • jmcilhinney on April 30, 2012, 13:06 GMT

    Several people are saying that Khawaja's average in Shield cricket is much higher than Cowan's. Am I missing something? I don't know how much FC cricket the two have played other than Sheffield Shield but the difference between their current FC averages is exactly 2 runs: 42.63 to 40.63. To my eye, that doesn't qualify as "much higher". As for Cowan's "annoying quality" of talking himself up in the media, I can 100% guarantee you that that does not figure even remotely in the selectors' decision. The fact that it's brought up regularly is just reinforcing why people who comment here aren't selectors.

  • Dashgar on April 30, 2012, 12:43 GMT

    @Mari and RandyOz, Cowan is never going to seem an attractive option when you make up and degrade his stats. He is 29, not 30, Khawaja is 25, not 24. Cowan averages 40 in First Class cricket, Khawaja averages 42. 4 year difference in age, 2 difference in average, but Cowan is a specialist opener, is coming off a huge shield season and is twice as good a fielder. You can argue Khawaja's 4 years and 2 average mean he should be there ahead of Cowan, but don't say it's 6 years and 20 average. It's just a lie to further a dying argument.

  • SidneyBarnes on April 30, 2012, 12:12 GMT

    Given that this series was a scrappy encounter between two scrappy teams, Garth and Dan have really over-hyped the ratings here haven't they? I mean, Ben Hilfenhaus gets 9/10. He took 10 wickets in a 3 match series, with the following innings returns - 1,4,1,2,1,1. How is this consistently average contribution, swinging only one innings towards his side, worth only 1 below the maximum? On this basis, what would you award a Richard Hadlee (33 wickets in a 3 match series)? Just one more point than Hilfenhaus? - its ridiculous. Similarly Matthew Wade. Congratulations to him for his debut hundred against an attack with no recognized world class bowler. He averaged nearly 40 because of not outs. Almost no improvement needed there then! - give him 9/10! These kind of scores, Shiv aside, make a mockery of truly world class performances against truly world class opponents. Are Dan and Garth being paid by the players for every point they award them?

  • Sunil_Batra on April 30, 2012, 11:59 GMT

    Agree with LewisEdwards, Khawaja as one of the first sub continent players has given hope to alot of young Indian, Sri Lankan and Pakistan players who have grown up in Australia and now dream of playing for their country. My young son included also loves this guy becasue he now wants to play for Australia, and i think we will be better for that.

  • ste13 on April 30, 2012, 11:07 GMT

    Clarke's captaincy is promising, Wade is a discovery, neither Lyon nor Beer are prospects and new options should be tested as soon as possible.

  • Paul_Rampley on April 30, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    I think most comments are pointing to the fact that both Khawaja and Cowan are good players, ultimately with the likes of Ponting and Hussey retiring in the next year, it will be the Khawaja's and Cowan's who will be carry the team forward, so lets hope we get both playing in the team together. Cowan with an average of 29 does need to score more and his task won't be easier against the South African attack which Khawaja dominated. Khawaja is a unique player has he has given alot of players from the Sub continent background in Australia hope of wearing the baggy green which they didn't have before and i think that's fantastic. We will only get better for having that as England has over the last 10 years.

  • Mary_786 on April 30, 2012, 10:50 GMT

    @pat_one_back if you look at Khawaja's average in Shield you will see that its much higher then Cowan so @LewisEdwards is correct. Both players are good but Cowan is now 30 years old whereas Khawaja is only 24 and has youth on his side. Plus Cowan likes to talk his scores up every opportunity he gets whereas Khawaja didn't share this annoying quality hence he has more support here in Australia. Cowan is a cricket writer and knows how to talk himself up and so he does this well but its an annoying quality.

  • pat_one_back on April 30, 2012, 9:39 GMT

    @RahulNagaraj I think Usman's recovered better mentally than his fans. test quality players go back to first class and make big hundreds to prove critics and selectors wrong! @LewisEdwards, who's backyard is he averaging 50 in??? It's a coin toss between the two (Cowan) based on efforts over past 12 months and not enough has happened on either side to justify another coin toss just yet.

  • jmcilhinney on April 30, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    @LewisEdwards, you are another who seems to pluck numbers out of the air or ignore them altogether. On this very site, Cowan's FC average is listed as 40.63 while Khawaja's is 42.63. They don't sound like less than 40 and almost 50 to me. You make it sound like there's a 10 run difference between the two which is a gross exaggeration. As I said to @RahulNagaraj, I'm not pro-Cowan or anti-Khawaja. I'm just in favour of people basing their opinions on facts. If Khawaja was unfairly dropped then how would it be fair to drop Cowan now for doing no worse and replacing him with Khawaja who has been poor in the Shield since? Maybe Khawaja shouldn't have been dropped but he was and there simply isn't a compelling reason to recall him right now if you're going to base your decision on form.

  • RandyOZ on April 30, 2012, 9:18 GMT

    @mari2619 - spot on mate, the problem with people here is they just base their selections on current form. This is exactly what got Cowan selected, despite a polutry 30-odd average in Shield Cricket. Khawaja is averaging up near 50 odd and was not given a long enough run to be fairly judged. As you correctly mention he was made a scapegoat for our loss. It's not acceptable. How is Cowan getting such an extended run? As the old saying goes form is temporary class is permanent, and Khawaja is pure class! Arthur and co have a lot to answer for.

  • jmcilhinney on April 30, 2012, 9:04 GMT

    @RahulNagaraj, you know not of what you speak. I care nothing for Cowan. I'm an England fan who grew up in Qld and now lives in NSW, so if I actually cared who played for Australia I'd want Khawaja, as a New South Welshman, over Cowan. I'm merely pointing out RandyOZ' hypocrisy. If you think that Khawaja was unfairly dropped then you should talk to Randy, because he called for him to be axed after the loss to NZ in Hobart if he didn't perform in the PM's XI game, which he didn't. Given that Khawaja was dropped, how can recalling him be justified when he's since done worse in Shield cricket than he did for Australia? He may one day be a star but that day is not today. If he did play poorly in the Shield because he was upset at being dropped then he clearly isn't mentally fit to play Test cricket. As for Shield numbers, Khawaja averages 2 and strikes 3 higher than Cowan. Is that really "much" higher? Let's stick to facts, or you can go off to Randyland too.

  • pat_one_back on April 30, 2012, 9:03 GMT

    @RandyOz, your man Ussie had his chance and bored everyone, never looked like he had a hundred in him and if he did no-one would have been awake to see it. Cowan only looks adequate to date but has at least already shown he can make a big test score, he was among 20 who couldn't in WI let 's bare in mind. As for those knocking aussie batting depth, Hayden, Langer, Martyn, S.Waugh, M.Waugh, Ponting, Clarke were all dropped early in their careers if I recall correctly, wouldn't be too quick to write off Hughes, Marsh, Smith or even Randy's man Ussie, in the meantime Mike Hussey has 2 good years at the top of his game and is a successful test career denied much like his IPL mate Hodgie.

  • Sunil_Batra on April 30, 2012, 7:39 GMT

    @jmcilhinney, i sense you might be related to Cowan, you have posted many times on this article defending Cowan and attacking Khawaja. RandyOz is right about Khawaja and here are the facts. Khawaja averages much higher then Cowan in shield cricket, KHawaja was unfairly dropped when he was averaging higher then Cowan and top scored against a world class South African attack, Cowan has falied against weaker attacks when India was at its lowest. Cowan puts most people to sleep whereas Khawaja is a much more attacking player. Khawaja was top shield scorer for last 3 years not counting this year as he never really recovered mentally after being unfairly dropped and only played 4 shield games this season. Stop defending Cowan when you are clearly out of your depth.

  • Paul_Rampley on April 30, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    @RandyOz and @warneythebest , you are correct on Khawaja, He is a much better batsman then Cowan, but he was the unlucky culprit of the NZ series where they needed to blame someone and unluckily it was Khawaja. Khawaja had top scored against SA in the second test in a record chase and averages close to 50, this is class above Cowan who averages less then 40 in Shield cricket. Khawaja is all class and i expect him to be back when Shield cricket starts.

  • Mary_786 on April 30, 2012, 7:23 GMT

    @RandyOZ, agree with you completely on Khawaja, unlike Cowan, Khawaja only got 2 games in a row at any one time and had to face South Africa at home, unlike Cowan who has had 2 easier bowling attacks to counter in 7 games straight, An average of 28 for Cowan doesn't cut it, plus he puts most viewers to sleep.

  • jmcilhinney on April 30, 2012, 6:46 GMT

    @RandyOZ, I'm still really interested to know how Lyon can be rated #2 spinner in the world based on figures that are inferior to those of Swann in UAE that allegedly proved he was pathetic. Perhaps Lyon will surpass Swann in the future be he hasn't yet based on their recent stats so are you basing your ratings on perceived future potential? No wonder you don't accept the ICC rankings then because they're based on actual performances rather than fairly dust, which seems to be your preferred method. If you have some actual facts and/or logic to back up your statements then I'd love to hear it but if not then I guess that we'll all just have to accept that you're a nutter. By the way, how come you want Khawaja and Hughes back now when you wanted them both axed a couple of series ago? I'm not sure about Hughes but Khawaja has averaged just over 17 in the Sheffield Shield since he was dropped from the Test team. I guess that makes him the #2 batsman in the world just behind Chanderpaul

  • GrumbleTr on April 30, 2012, 6:36 GMT

    I'm surprised Chanderpaul didn't get 10/10. And no, I am an Aus fan, but the way Chanderpaul batted, hardly played a bad innings. Got 50 almost every time. Was definetely best player in the series.

  • pat_one_back on April 30, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    I think Clarke's given us a retrospective glimpse of what a great on field Captain Warnie would have been. Punter had the old plan A recipe without the quality ingredients of it's architects. Bowling Mitch J as if he were McGrath and murdering so many spinners in the process, adequate Test spinners set up to fail by loose bowling around them and defensive fields to bowl to (or for which they felt obliged to ask). Lyon can be thankful his arrival has coincided with significantly improved conditions for success, a confident supportive captain setting fields (one who bowls spin and has the best practioner ever as his mentor) plus discipline & early wickets from the quicks/or perhaps Mitch was the only problem as no doubt any bowler would struggle when there's free runs on offer from the other end.

  • RandyOZ on April 30, 2012, 3:26 GMT

    @Meety - spot on, Lyon is coming on in leaps and bounds and is second only to Ajmal! Top it all off he's a Redback! Quality!

  • jmcilhinney on April 30, 2012, 3:22 GMT

    @warneythebest, Khawaja's SR in Tests is actually lower than Cowan's for a similar number of matches. Khawaja's FC SR is about 3 runs above Cowan's but is the difference between 50 and 47 really that big a deal that you would call Cowan too slow? That means that if they both make about 40 Cowan will face one or two balls more. Big deal! I think that you do agree with RandyOZ that such judgements should be made emotionally and without looking at the actual numbers.

  • mikey76 on April 30, 2012, 2:43 GMT

    Randy doesnt believe in ICC rankings either, unless Clarke is at No.1 then they are gospel. Khawaja the pakistani doesn't look especially promising, like most of the batsmen waiting in the wings.

  • Meety on April 29, 2012, 23:33 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK - yes the selectors treated Hauritz poorly, however, it is pretty plain to see he is not as good as Lyon. @Ragav999 - very much so!

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 29, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    1) Explain to us why "winning a toss" (Michael Clarke) is worthy of a mention/points? The toss is just 50:50 chance, but the decision what to do if you win it is important. 2) Australian bowlers looked rather stale; going to be a big challenge for them to get 20 wickets against stronger batting line-ups. 3) Can't believe people are saying Sammy shouldn't be in the WI team! Who would you replace him with? '6-and-then-out' Pollard!? 4) Lyon should be replaced by Nathan Hauritz immediately; his treatment by the Aussie selectors is shocking.

  • jmcilhinney on April 29, 2012, 14:51 GMT

    @RandyOZ, is that the Usman Khawaja who has played 6 tests to Cowan's 7 and has an average and strike rate both lower than Cowan's? Is that the Usman Khawaja who you yourself said had to be axed from the Australia team before the home series against India if he didn't perform in the PM's XI tour game, which he didn't? Is that the Usman Khawaja who averaged just over 17 in his last 8 innings in this years Sheffield Shield? Wow, the talent really is thin when that's your saviour... and he wasn't even born in Australia. I'm not sure that "hypocrite" even does you justice. Top shelf Randy. Truly top shelf.

  • warneythebest on April 29, 2012, 14:34 GMT

    randyoz i totally agree with u... usman khawaja should be gvn more chances..bcz cowan is just too slow....

  • on April 29, 2012, 13:27 GMT

    Sammy made so many captaincy mistakes it wasn't funny, from keep putting himself in slips 2 pacers and dropping catches in the slip cordon, poor fidel, to withdrawing appeals before letting the umpire make the decision, which would have been lbw, to holding off to long off with his 1st couple delivers when the team needed a score. Please tell me how sammy's captancy flourished, name 2 great captaincy decisions sammmy made

  • on April 29, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    It is time to say goodbye to Edwards. he is not a reliable player often tending to not complete a series because of injury. There are quite a few younger quicks around the region and the selectors need to start grooming them from now. I am surprised that Bharath is included for England after this poor run of scores. i think that Sammy's rating was too high. As a captain he is a dud and Clarke left him in the dust. Only in trinidad he showed some initiative and yet that was in reaction to the challenge laid own by the Aussies. Maybe Wi should appoint a younger caotain ( Edwards ??) and provide him with tarining and as much "on site" technical advice as possible. Use your veterans WI !!!!!!!!

  • RandyOZ on April 29, 2012, 11:26 GMT

    How on Earth did Cowan get 5? Why are we persisting with players averaging 30-odd in shield cricket. Look at Marsh to see what happens. Forrest will be our next big mistake. Maybe then we will finally pick the very promising Ussie Khawaja!

  • mngc1 on April 29, 2012, 11:24 GMT

    dsig3 gives Baugh a 9 for keeping wicket alone!! WI may have won the series but for the many catches that he dropped - even without any contribution with the bat!! Many "lives" contributed to a lot of extra runs. In the second test he dropped at least 3 catches (one Sammy took on the rebound). For example in the 3rd test the second wicket fell at 84 when Baugh dropped at catch at 21 i.e. 63 extra runs. At that stage Rampaul would have been 2 for 15 with his adrenaline pumped up. Instead he only ended with 1 wicket. Baugh's rating of 5 was very generous. In that match Sammy dropped a sitter and another. We lost that match by less than the "extra runs" given through the lives. Yes that's cricket and they drop some but not so many. The great WI team twenty years ago dropped very few catches and that contributed to their winning streak.

  • hhillbumper on April 29, 2012, 11:17 GMT

    You have to think that the Windies woes laid in their batting and catching.Gayle would have made a difference but if they are going with the team they have then they need to back the youngsters. I think Sammy is a good captain and has bought stability to the team which seems to be in constant upheaval.

  • Happy_AusBang on April 29, 2012, 11:16 GMT

    The weak links for WI are Barath, Braithwaite, Baugh and Powel, too many in a team. It is hard to understand why Baugh is preferred to Ramdin. Sammy is still better than anyone who could possibly replace him. He does score some runs and takes a few wickets too which is better than the four passengers they have at the moment.

  • on April 29, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    My Captain for the West Indies should be Dinesh Ramdin , the presence of Sammy is affecting the balance of the team , West Indies needs to play 3 genuine fast bowlers in Ravi Ramphaul, Roach and Fidel Edwards with a spinner Narine or Shillingford , Sammy should not be in the team, Samuels should only be selected for 20/20 and 50 overs and not test.

  • IamDan on April 29, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    All in all, it was a great series, in very tough conditions, Chanders`, player of the series, and Wade, and the ever impressive Roach, equal second. Both Captains, a very commendable equal 3rd, Test Cricket, played the way it should be, in testing conditions.Enough Said,

  • Grasian on April 29, 2012, 9:28 GMT

    For me this was a compelling series, not for the general standard of cricket which was often poor, but for the performance of the West Indies captain. Whether it was kicking the ball onto his stumps, being run out, holing out to long on when there was a target to be set, overbowling himself, dropping vital catches in the slips or, best of all, withdrawing a successful appeal for LBW, there was never a dull moment.

  • JG2704 on April 29, 2012, 9:17 GMT

    @ramps_wi on (April 28 2012, 23:40 PM GMT) Just wondering which of the WI IPL boys would definitely have made it into the WI side and made a defining difference? I believe Gayle has not played tests for WI for some time anyway and would Dwayne Bravo have made a huge difference? With NZ - I'm not sure whether it is by chance or by design that there was no NZ test series scheduled during this time but with NZ they'd have been without their 3 most experienced and arguably best players.

  • on April 29, 2012, 8:42 GMT

    Chanderpaul- lone blooming star for the west indies in a dull and faded attack-

  • Ragav999 on April 29, 2012, 7:30 GMT

    @Meety: Hope you are pleased with Lyon's performance.

  • on April 29, 2012, 7:24 GMT

    In the end pretty predictable series. Underperforming windies (in the test series anyway) against let's be honest a "run of the mill" Aussie team. Clarke's captaincy was really the only shining light for Australia, I think we can say that given the best batsman and the best bowler of the series (in stats) were west indian that Australia didn't really fire..

  • Meety on April 29, 2012, 6:04 GMT

    To peoples commenting on the ratings - it is all subjective, not really worth debating to much extent, the summaries are fairly spot on.

  • jonesy2 on April 29, 2012, 6:02 GMT

    either australias scores are way too low or the windies are way too high.

  • jmcilhinney on April 29, 2012, 5:33 GMT

    @landl47, but by the same token Lyon statistically out performed Shillingford yet Shilligford got a higher rating. It makes me think that the two different authors rated one team each and were basing their ratings on slightly different criteria.

  • nishith_d on April 29, 2012, 4:27 GMT

    I think Sammy's been doing a great job with the team but can get quite defensive at times though he showed a very positive approach in the 2nd and 3rd tests against Aus. I feel WI should do something quite drastic in the Eng series. I think Sammy shold bat at no. 6, while Ramdin at no. 7 and they should play Roach, Rampaul and Edwards. Cause Sammy hasn't really been using himself too much as a bowler. He's only bowled a few more overs than deonarine, while he was the 3rd highest run getter for the WI. Would have loved to see Narine in the team against Eng, especially, given Eng's recent failure against spin in Pak and SL. Even though English conditions may not favour spin as much but Narine seems to be an intelligent bolwer and hard to pick up. If nothing else he may be able to choke the runs from one end.

  • landl47 on April 29, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    Hilf got 10 wickets at an average of 20 and a strike rate of 60; Roach got 19 wickets at an average of 19 and a strike rate of 38, yet Hilf gets 9 and Roach gets 8! How is that justified? And surely Chanderpaul should have got the highest grade overall- often it looked like him against the Aussies. However, nice to see the captains getting their reward for what was a very well-captained series. Agree with Something_Witty that Wade has earned his spot and given their respective ages I can't see why Aus would even consider going back to Haddin. @Rising_Edge1234: check out the name of the WI vice-captain for the England tour.

  • Randy_Wilson on April 29, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    @ Mr_Anonymous in October he will be offer one, He just recently got into the West Indies Squad, but the Problem is, Will NArine sign the West Indies Contact or be a Free Agent like Gayle, Pollard and Bravo, we will have to wait and see in October. like i said many time it's not only the Board to be Blame it's also the Players. Both is at Fault. Gayle, Pollard and Bravo Should of sign our Contact and we would of still have Gayle as Captain while Sammy woulnt be playing for WI, Also The Board is at fault because they needs Proper Rules and Regulation in our Cricket and MUS follow it. Plus do not give players freedom to go and play IPL when a series is on the way, example Gayle during England series a few year back, WICB was too soft on that that why no one take WICB serious. and they made a mess of it and not it's to late they put us in this problem.

  • jmcilhinney on April 29, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    @RandyOZ, Hilfenhaus had a superior average, strike rate and economy rate (20.80, 59.40, 2.10) to Lyon (25.92, 61.62, 2.52) si that would explain the superior rating. You might want to actually look at some numbers once in a while rather than basing your opinions on some warm, fuzzy feeling you get from certain players. No wonder you don't take the ICC rankings seriously, given that they are based on actual performances. Lyon did score more runs with the bat than Hilfenhaus, so maybe that's your primary criterion for a good bowler. By the way, do you still want Khawaja and Hughes recalled, despite having called for them both to be axed just a couple of series ago? Is that based on the same warm, fuzzy feeling because everyone seems to be saying that Khawaja's domestic numbers are nothing to write home about.

  • dsig3 on April 29, 2012, 3:38 GMT

    Wade and Baugh both deserve 9's for keeping wickets alone. I have never seen a more difficult place to keep.

  • jmcilhinney on April 29, 2012, 3:36 GMT

    @RandyOZ, Lyon's average and strike in this series (25.92, 61.62) are both inferior to Swann's in UAE (25.08, 53.00) while Lyon did have a better economy rate (2.52) than Swann (2.84). You have said that Swann was pathetic in UAE while Lyon is arguably the world's best spinner so does that mean that economy rate is the only statistic that you consider to be important? By the way, do you still want Khawaja and Hughes back despite calling for them both to be axed not that long ago?

  • Paul_Rampley on April 29, 2012, 3:05 GMT

    Great series win by the Aussies, Cowan was lucky to get 5, he should have got a 3 after only averaging over 20 this series, and his fielding is not a standout, he is actually a weak fielder outside the square. Cowan is not cut out at this level and his worse feature is that he talks his scores up every time.

  • on April 29, 2012, 2:05 GMT

    I agree with Windies89 that indeed Shiv deserved a 10 and Sammy a much lower grade. And while Gayle and Dwayne Bravo may not be available for the England tour Sarwan is but was not included in the squad. People ned to realize that Sarwan is being blacklisted because he's an executive member of e players' association (WIPA) with which the Windies board has had a confrontational relationship over the years. Its also amazing that for one bad test, Bishoo (ICC emerging player of 2011) was first dropped from the series against Australia and then completely dropped from test cricket. Yet Sammy and Gibson are talking about having faith in the younger players? This obviously is very selective faith.

  • tpjpower on April 29, 2012, 1:48 GMT

    How the heck does Hilfenhaus score more than Roach? And how can Harris match Roach's score? To my mind (and this is supported by the stats) there was daylight between Roach and the rest of the fast bowlers in this series. By sheer weight of wickets Roach should earn a 2-point margin over the other quickies on either side. Pretty clear that Chanders, Roach and Shilly were the best individual performers in this series, but that the Australians prevailed because of their greater depth. Lots of very silly scores being handed out here.

  • hyclass on April 29, 2012, 1:12 GMT

    Clarke is a wonderful captain.I hope that Chanderpauls overwhelming batting success and Test ave of 50,put to bed talk of technique as the panacea for batting ills.He had the worst technique on show,but his application & plans were peerless,demonstrating that THEY are the primary assets in batting success. CA would do well to remember that. Australias success began in the late 80s under Simpson who developed a tip and run policy for his openers,one,the extremely limited and technically poor Marsh.By identifiying realistic scoring plans and rates,the players acted with certainty. When Boon struggled against Hadlee,he was advised by Simpson to take an off stump guard which worked brilliantly.He wasnt publicly pilloried and forced to change his entire game as happens now.When Hayden looked like failing after years playing defensively,the change came when he was encouraged to attack and play with freedom. The same change revitalised Langer.Poor coaches ruin careers.Great ones are priceless

  • on April 29, 2012, 0:41 GMT

    With the upcoming tour of England just around the corner and not much time for some match practice, I think the selectors for the tour will have their hands full, as far as deciding who to play and the best batting order. The opening position is a problem. Neither Barath or Powell got pass 50 in the home series against a weak Australian attack; I cant foresee them doing any better against a much better England bowling attack in England. Our numbers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 need to put 400 runs on the board just to be competetive. This would be my batting order: Edwards, Powell, Chanderpaul, Bravo, Barath, Samuels, Ramdin, Shillingford, Rampaul, Roach, and Edwards. I think Barath plays much too loose to be successfull against the new ball under English conditions. I would only play Samuels over Deonarine because he has a bit more experience. Chanderpaul shoud bat at 3 so he can help the younger batsmen. I'm an avid Windies FAN, who want to see them do well on this tour. Good lock guys!

  • kennyluv on April 29, 2012, 0:24 GMT

    WI need to step out of the box and be imaginative with their their selection. stray a little fom the status quo. Give one of those No. 6 a chance at opening the innings with Barath (my reason is they have faced the 2nd new ball more often recently) So, I say give Deonarine or Samuels a shot from that No. 2 spot.

  • RandyOZ on April 29, 2012, 0:16 GMT

    As if Hilfenhaus deserved higher than Lyon???? Agree with all the comments re Wade/Haddin. Absolute joke that the debate is even on the table.

  • bvnathan on April 29, 2012, 0:15 GMT

    Give 3 CHEERS to WI team. Though Australia won the series 2-0, WI team made them work hard for the results, in spite of the inexperience of WI team. Australia who showed great might during the summer with whitewash of INDIA 4-0, struggled a lot against WI bowlers - which is a clear indication of their batsmen inability to show the same form outside their home grounds. There are lots of +ves for WI team and hope they their batting on the top orders starts clicking during their tour of ENG.

  • Mr_Anonymous on April 28, 2012, 23:58 GMT

    I can only imagine how close the matches could have been had: Gayle, Sunil Narine, Keiran Pollard, Dwayne Bravo been part of the squad. I really think WI should consider moving Chanderpaul to no. 3 or 4 as his fixed slot in England. Still a bit surprised that Sunil Narine was not selected for the England tour. He is a very good bowler. In today's IPL match of KKR vs RCB, even Gayle (probably the best T20 batsman in the world right now) had trouble picking him. I understand T20 is different from Tests but I feel Narine could be a good strike bowler in England (like Murali). I feel hopeful about West Indies cricket based on the talent that they have and sincerely wish that the differences between the board and the players could be resolved (I understand that some agreement has been reached with Gayle and that he could play again after this year's IPL). Also, why haven't they given a contract to Narine yet?

  • ramps_wi on April 28, 2012, 23:40 GMT

    WI jus has to do as New Zealand and do not schedule any matches during IPL let the players make some money like all sports people do, its only fair. The ICC should create a window for IPL since its been arounf for 5 years and will be for more than 5 more.

  • on April 28, 2012, 23:25 GMT

    Chanderpaul is surely the West Indies Guard, but how will will be able to stay on.

    Sammy must give runs to keep his place as Captain!

    Darren has shown maturity but needs to concentrate some more. I am not sure about our openers, we need work.

    Our bowlers, Shillinford and Roach are the best we have now.

  • katandthat3 on April 28, 2012, 22:59 GMT

    Agree with @Something_Witty, I find it hard to see how there is any argument at all over Wade's immediate future in the Test side. He has greatly impressed and I think Haddin has more pressing issues (which I hope work out for the best). If Tim Paine was fit, Haddin would have been gone for the last home summer but now Wade has made the most of his opportunities and has performed better, it would be a backward step to go back to him. Clarke has excellent senior support without him and and an excellent skipper anyway (up there with Tubby in my opinion). They have to make the call next summer. Healy one of our greatest gloveman didn't get a home series to say farewell so time to move on. Well done to the Windies too. Really impressed with Sammy as a leader, couldn't believe it when he was first made captain but he has grown into his role and has improved his skills to be an important asset to Windies cricket. It'll be a tough tour of UK but some good signs, they'll have to adjust fast.

  • Humdingers on April 28, 2012, 22:16 GMT

    @Few Tem, instead if blaming the IPL (you don't see Warner, Clarke etc., playing in the IPL do you?), you need top look at the ineptness of the WI Board and not looking after their players. The BCCI has every right to schedule it in India's "off season".

  • Meety on April 28, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    @AdrianVanDenStael - I think catching is extremely vital, although I think from memory Sammy dropped quite a few (3?) during the series. Probably Cowan's fielding deserved an extra point? == == == Awarding points is a subjective thing done at the end of most test series. Nothing blaringly wrong although - whilst I agree with the summaries, I felt Starc & Siddle ended up scoring too high for their TOTAL contribution (not the full series). I also would of had Chanderpaul the clearly highest scored - so either a 9.5 for him, or dropped Wade & Hilfy to 8.5. Minor changes.

  • on April 28, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    WI main players were busy for IPL , its not a fair comparison . ICC or who ever run this show should quickly manage the farce with IPL ; since coincidentally didn't clash with any of India FTP's for 5 years running . Cricket lost its gentleman nature .

  • BustIPL on April 28, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    I will go for Clarke who went for agressive captaincy. This is required to regain the number one test ranking and maintain it. This attitude was totally missing from Dhoni's attire who went defensive to maintain stats and then two notorius whitewashes followed.

  • on April 28, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    I am convinced that West Indies would have done better had the selectors not place three inexperienced batsmen at the top of the order. However, there are several positives to take away - the more focused bowling of Kemar Roach, the application of the West Indies lower order, and the assurance that we have a few more years to get from Tiger.

  • AdrianVanDenStael on April 28, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Some of these ratings, perhaps specifically of Australia's batsmen, are a little high when you consider that what really made the difference was the runs which the Australian tail added in the first innings of the first and third tests, without which West Indies could well have won the series. There's no critical mention of Sammy's fielding, which may surprise some West Indies supporters, but one should also remember that he actually took more catches than anyone on either side in this series (including the wicket keepers). Catching tends to be something which is only noticed when catches are dropped.

  • mukesh_LOVE.cricket on April 28, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Clarke had to get a 9 , he was outstanding as a leader of men.. and this 'debate of choosing between wade and haddin' is probably the most stupid thing i have heard recently , whats so much to debate ? wade is better in almost every respect and if someone of ponting's calibre can be dropped from odi why cant a haddin be dropped from test team ?

  • mikey76 on April 28, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    Chanderpaul the outstanding batsman on either side and Roach the outstanding bowler. If Gayle, Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo had of been available I think it would have been different. The West Indies desperatly need a keeper who can deliver runs but they seem to keep going back and forth to the same average players. Brendan Nash who scored a hundred in the championship recently surely must come back in to maybe bat at 3 and give the top order some stability. Hopefully Sammy has turned the corner in regards to run scoring, he needs to average 25 plus to justify his place in the team.

  • Rising_Edge1234 on April 28, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    Why was Kirk Edwards not included for the English tour?

  • Windies89 on April 28, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    Chanderpaul deserved a 10, Clarke a 9 simply because of his brilliant and agressive captaincy that hasn't been seen in some time and Sammy a lower rating because he only got 5 wickets and his runs never comes when it is really needed. I still don't understand what Sammy means by playing a "new brand" of cricket...does he mean they are no longer being whitewashed, only losing 2 - 0.

  • Something_Witty on April 28, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    "Selectors have a debate on their hands to separate Wade and Brad Haddin." - I disagree entirely. All due respect to Haddin and his service to Aus in the past, his time was up after the SA tour. That much was easy to see. The dropped chances and irresponsible batting in the NZ/India series only provided more proof. Wade has shown maturity and composure beyond his years, in every innings he has ground out tough runs against excellent bowling. He has played exactly the sorts of innings that always seemed beyond Haddin. I've been a huge fan of Wade's for about a year and a half now. There should be no debate over who to play. Wade's time has come, Haddin's is well and truly over. I wish Haddin all the best with his family and his life beyond cricket.

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  • Something_Witty on April 28, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    "Selectors have a debate on their hands to separate Wade and Brad Haddin." - I disagree entirely. All due respect to Haddin and his service to Aus in the past, his time was up after the SA tour. That much was easy to see. The dropped chances and irresponsible batting in the NZ/India series only provided more proof. Wade has shown maturity and composure beyond his years, in every innings he has ground out tough runs against excellent bowling. He has played exactly the sorts of innings that always seemed beyond Haddin. I've been a huge fan of Wade's for about a year and a half now. There should be no debate over who to play. Wade's time has come, Haddin's is well and truly over. I wish Haddin all the best with his family and his life beyond cricket.

  • Windies89 on April 28, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    Chanderpaul deserved a 10, Clarke a 9 simply because of his brilliant and agressive captaincy that hasn't been seen in some time and Sammy a lower rating because he only got 5 wickets and his runs never comes when it is really needed. I still don't understand what Sammy means by playing a "new brand" of cricket...does he mean they are no longer being whitewashed, only losing 2 - 0.

  • Rising_Edge1234 on April 28, 2012, 18:52 GMT

    Why was Kirk Edwards not included for the English tour?

  • mikey76 on April 28, 2012, 19:16 GMT

    Chanderpaul the outstanding batsman on either side and Roach the outstanding bowler. If Gayle, Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo had of been available I think it would have been different. The West Indies desperatly need a keeper who can deliver runs but they seem to keep going back and forth to the same average players. Brendan Nash who scored a hundred in the championship recently surely must come back in to maybe bat at 3 and give the top order some stability. Hopefully Sammy has turned the corner in regards to run scoring, he needs to average 25 plus to justify his place in the team.

  • mukesh_LOVE.cricket on April 28, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Clarke had to get a 9 , he was outstanding as a leader of men.. and this 'debate of choosing between wade and haddin' is probably the most stupid thing i have heard recently , whats so much to debate ? wade is better in almost every respect and if someone of ponting's calibre can be dropped from odi why cant a haddin be dropped from test team ?

  • AdrianVanDenStael on April 28, 2012, 19:34 GMT

    Some of these ratings, perhaps specifically of Australia's batsmen, are a little high when you consider that what really made the difference was the runs which the Australian tail added in the first innings of the first and third tests, without which West Indies could well have won the series. There's no critical mention of Sammy's fielding, which may surprise some West Indies supporters, but one should also remember that he actually took more catches than anyone on either side in this series (including the wicket keepers). Catching tends to be something which is only noticed when catches are dropped.

  • on April 28, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    I am convinced that West Indies would have done better had the selectors not place three inexperienced batsmen at the top of the order. However, there are several positives to take away - the more focused bowling of Kemar Roach, the application of the West Indies lower order, and the assurance that we have a few more years to get from Tiger.

  • BustIPL on April 28, 2012, 21:15 GMT

    I will go for Clarke who went for agressive captaincy. This is required to regain the number one test ranking and maintain it. This attitude was totally missing from Dhoni's attire who went defensive to maintain stats and then two notorius whitewashes followed.

  • on April 28, 2012, 21:28 GMT

    WI main players were busy for IPL , its not a fair comparison . ICC or who ever run this show should quickly manage the farce with IPL ; since coincidentally didn't clash with any of India FTP's for 5 years running . Cricket lost its gentleman nature .

  • Meety on April 28, 2012, 21:54 GMT

    @AdrianVanDenStael - I think catching is extremely vital, although I think from memory Sammy dropped quite a few (3?) during the series. Probably Cowan's fielding deserved an extra point? == == == Awarding points is a subjective thing done at the end of most test series. Nothing blaringly wrong although - whilst I agree with the summaries, I felt Starc & Siddle ended up scoring too high for their TOTAL contribution (not the full series). I also would of had Chanderpaul the clearly highest scored - so either a 9.5 for him, or dropped Wade & Hilfy to 8.5. Minor changes.