West Indies v Australia, 2nd Test, Port-of-Spain, 1st day

Australia grind on pitch offering early turn

The Report by Andrew McGlashan

April 15, 2012

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Australia 208 for 5 (Watson 56, Hussey 26*, Wade 11*) v West Indies
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Shane Watson acknowledges his fifty, West Indies v Australia, 2nd Test, Port-of-Spain, April 15, 2012
Shane Watson worked very hard for his 56 before falling to Shane Shillingford © AFP
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Fluent strokeplay has not been top of the agenda in this series and the opening day in Port-of-Spain was another where the batsmen had to grind for their rewards. With that in mind, Australia were better placed than 208 for 5 might imply but West Indies ensured they stayed within range with Shane Shillingford, the tall offspinner, impressive on his return to Test cricket.

The turn that Shillingford - and, to a lesser extent, Narsingh Deonarine - found on a first-day pitch suggested that anything around 300 would be a good total while Australia have two frontline spinners to exploit conditions after recalling Michael Beer to partner Nathan Lyon. Once the hardness had gone from the ball, which allowed Australia to reach 42 after 10 overs, the remaining 80 overs of the day brought 166 runs with West Indies opting not to take the second new ball.

Shane Watson was the mainstay of the innings for more than three hours as he ground his way to a half-century from 128 balls. Boundary opportunities had been rare for Watson, and mostly came when the quick bowlers offered width, before he got an inside edge to short leg where it was superbly held by Adrian Barath who had to reach upwards for the catch.

It was a deserved second wicket for Shillingford, who earlier struck fifth delivery playing his first Test since remodelling his bowling action, after he had twice been denied the opportunity to double his tally. Once that was by technology and another by the inconsistent glovework of Carlton Baugh, who dropped Michael Hussey when he had 5 from one which turned sharply to take the glove.

Shortly after tea Shillingford was awarded an lbw against Michael Clarke but the Australia captain reviewed, by the looks of it at the time more out of hope than expectation. However, the replays showed he had been struck outside off stump on the back pad so survived and even shared his slight surprise with the close fielders.

Clarke couldn't cash in on the reprieve when he managed to pull a long hop from Deonarine to deep square-leg having briefly provided the most fluent batting of the day when he took the attack to Kemar Roach at the start of the final session. Roach, who had earlier collected the important wickets of Ed Cowan and Ricky Ponting, was more than twice as expensive as any other of the bowlers and offered Clarke width to drive as the fourth-wicket stand with Watson grew to 84.

Soon, though. Australia had to rebuild again and without Ryan Harris or Peter Siddle in the lower order - the former surprisingly rested, the latter suffering a stiff back - there is a longer tail than in Barbados when they hauled the visitors out of trouble and into the ascendency. But with Michael Hussey still present West Indies could yet rue Baugh's mistake. Matthew Wade was also put down, on 2, although the chance to Kraigg Braithwaite at short leg was tough.

West Indies thought they had taken a wicket in the first over the day when David Warner was given out caught behind by the umpire Marais Erasmus before Darren Sammy indicated the ball had not carried to the keeper. That was clearly the case and replays also showed it was also nowhere near the edge but if Erasmus had given the decision as lbw on-field it would have stood.

After that early intrigue Australia moved along at a healthy rate as both Warner and Cowan latched onto anything short, although Warner also had to battle to survive against Roach when the fast bowler went round the wicket and probed the outside edge. It was Shillingford who provided the breakthrough with his fifth ball when he enticed Warner to drive at a full delivery which spun enough to find the edge and Sammy pocketed a simple catch at slip.

Shortly before lunch Cowan was extracted lbw from around the wicket by Roach, who then added Ponting in the sixth over of the afternoon session with a beauty to square up the batsman and find the outside edge. However, the wicket did not come easily as Baugh palmed the chance away but, fortunately for the home side, Sammy was alert at slip to collect the rebound.

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Posted by Randy0Z on (April 16, 2012, 15:54 GMT)

@jmcilhinney I honestly don't think we're in the same league as SA & Eng at the moment. SA & End both have 3+ batsmens who have the potential to get test scores of 150+, where as we are relying on an ageing the Ponting & 20-20 flash in the pans like Warner. SA & Eng have the 2 best pace attacks in the world by a country mile, and don't even get me started on spin!

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 15:50 GMT)

Fidel Edwards is short on work and rhythum and luck,just look at his bowling even in this game,every bowler or batsman goes through that phase.But to say,he cannot bowl,which planet are you living on?,besides his average,he did not get 150+ wickets at test level by luck and chance,Rampaul was in very impressive form all of last year before he was injured and ill,playyed one first class game and straight back in the squad.Dont forget peoples Rampaul initially was ordinary looking,but worked really hard to become the very impressive and dangerous bowler he has become.The question is,if they are not convinced by his fitness and the extra weight he clearly has put on,why pick him now?.Then again,we are talking about the West Indies selectors,they picked Tino Best and ignored him throught the entire one day series,so who know what they are thinking in general,who knows?

Posted by waltor65 on (April 16, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

G carlton Baugh has a poor keeping technique. he obviously isn't a batter and not to sure about a keeper 2

Posted by Rally_Windies on (April 16, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

cricinfo please post my comments..people are saying that Shillingford is a better bowler than Miller.....

Miller ave in 1st class is 16, and Shillingford is 25...... Miller has played 48 1st class games, so his average is not a fluke....

Miller was give 1 test 5 years ago.. he is a much better bowler NOW .... Shillingford has a Test average of 56 from 4 Tests... so why give Shillingford a chance ahead of Miller ? Nepotism much?

Miller is the #1 spinner in the region RIGHT now, he has more wickets than Shillingford in this year's competition. he took more wickets than Shillingford last year as well. and Miller has led Jamaica to 4 consecutive titles ....

Miller has an economy of 1.43 in this year's competition and is the only bowler who has bwoled 100+ maidens in it.

sowhy not try Miller?

Posted by essky on (April 16, 2012, 14:59 GMT)

I agree Bishoo should still be in the team. In WI some players are allowed two poor games while other are given a chance to settle into the team. Rampaul is a thinking bowler who could bowl well on any pitch, I think he should be there too.

Posted by cricketdebator on (April 16, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

Fidel Edwards cannot bowl. Simple as that. And the sooner the selectors act on that realisation, the better. In every over he bowls, you can be sure that at least 1 ball will be dispatched to the boundary. I believe he is trying his best, but simply can't make it. Once he maintains fitness, Rampaul is definately a better option.

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

@VivGilchrist, I think you are wrong in your assesment of Sammy. If he had bowled himself more you would have been the one to critize him also, leave the man alone he is doing a fine job with the team and believe me THIS TEAM WILL ONCE AGAIN RISE TO THE TOP AND SOON.

Posted by TheLight on (April 16, 2012, 14:37 GMT)

VivGilchrist,

You are right.....Sammy hides and does not bowl when the going gets tough.......he is picked as a frontline bowler, yet part timers bowl more overs than him......................................................Sammy's only concern is looking after his bowling statistics.........you may see him come back to bowl when the tail enders are in................when he feels he can get a wicket to improve is bowling averages...............................................................he has been consistently doing that since being appointed captain.

Posted by TheLight on (April 16, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

Shilling ford should have had a couple extra wickets...............if not for Baugh missing easy chances behind the stumps............3 misses in 1 day!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Absolutely unacceptable at international level......I am surprised if Baugh is the best keeper in the West Indies!!!!

Posted by OzWally on (April 16, 2012, 13:39 GMT)

Since when have WI pitches been so lifeless? No wonder WI cricket is struggling, batsmen can't play shots, bowlers get no help, unless your a spinner then you have to wait a few days until it totally falls apart. Do they have full time professional curators? Or does the guy from the ski rental shop drop into the grund during his lunch break?

Posted by Silva-Surfa on (April 16, 2012, 13:21 GMT)

A good, competitive first day, with honours even i think. For the Windies to get five wickets, after Australia decided to bat first, is not a bad effort. The only thing is that they still have Mike Hussey there with Keeper Wade. Had Baugh caught that difficult relfex chance to dismiss Hussey, the Windies would've had the advantage. Alot will depend on how much of a partnership this current pair can provide, plus the support of the tail, as they wagged brilliantly in Barbados. But again the direction of the match will depend on the unpredictable consistancy of the Windies batsmen. Can they perform in both innings?...and to see how they cope against the spin tandem of Lyon and Beer, as well as the promising new-ball frontman Pattinson.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (April 16, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

This time last year the West Indies were making India battle unexpectedly hard to subdue them. A year on it is Australia who are being made to battle unexpectedly hard. Sadly, from the West Indian perspective, they still seem unable to add that extra 5% to their game that is the difference between losing a competitive series and winning it. To me though, as an Englishman, it is odd seeing players like Michael Beer being re-cycled when the impression that they gave in the last Ashes series was that they were just not quite good enough to succed at this level, whereas other players who looked really promising. have seemingly fallen by the wayside. I do wonder if the selectors have a clear vision of where they want to go and how they want to get there and a clearly identified pool of players to do the job. There seems to be a lot of chopping and changing and not just in the spin-bowling department.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 16, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

@RandyOZ, while I'm pleased to see that you're not making the outlandish claims you have in the past, I don't necessarily agree that the Australia team is mediocre. I'm making an assumption here but I think that the issue for you, and many other Australia fans, is that you grew up as a cricket fan in a period where Australia were truly dominant. They don't call the Australian teams of that period "great" for nothing, nor the WI teams before them. Those were truly great teams. You seem to be operating under the assumption that Australia can and will get back to that level some time soon. I'm afraid that that is just not going to happen. England, SA and Australia all have good teams at the moment and there are others not too far behind but none of them are near to achieving that greatness. You just need to accept that and enjoy the wins when they come. If you could appreciate good play from other teams it would help, because cricket can be enjoyable even if your team don't win.

Posted by Mervo on (April 16, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

The West Indies should be denied Test cricket status until they can produce Test standard pitches, with proper player and crowd facilities. And as for Shillingford being a Test bowler - with an average of 57! Well his batting average is better.

Posted by Hammond on (April 16, 2012, 12:13 GMT)

@RandyOz- Probably the most sensible thing I have read of yours on this site. Don't be too hard on the aussie team though, number 7 in the world is slowly getting better, whereas bog average number 4 flatters to deceive.

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 11:23 GMT)

In reply to noplay, you're making accusations about insularity when that has been the foundation of biased politics in the Caribeean for as long as i can remember. Back in the day, no other regions got a second-look and at best were just a token fringe squad-player amongst the big four (Jam, Trini, Guy and Bar). I'm not condoning the influence of over-compensating the other way, but i can fully understand that all regions want a equal opportunity in selection. Bishoo will feature again, but he hasn't shown the sort of form, since his debut in the Sub-Con. So now Shilly gets his chance after all his troubles and now it's paying dividends. You can criticise Sammy all you want, but at least he's trying to work on what he has and his beart and soul is in the interest of West Indies cricket. The direction of it all looks like any talented up and coming players would rather choose making big-money and i don't blame them, so the reality is the circumstances we find ourselves in!!

Posted by eyballfallenout on (April 16, 2012, 11:17 GMT)

@Naveed Khan hahaha! really? you have not seen much of the Aussies play then!

Posted by Randy0Z on (April 16, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

My word this Aussie team is so mediocre. If we can't do the business against the Windies then what hope do we have in the harder tests to come over the next 18 months? The future does not look bright!

Posted by SDHM on (April 16, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

Viv - I think I heard on commentary that Kirk Edwards had an injury, so that clears that up. Rampaul should be playing - he's the Windies' best seamer by a mile. I think Fidel is overrated - he bowls the odd devastating spell, but between them there is a lot of mediocrity. At least he was economical yesterday, but he didn't look too threatening either. How he's in the side ahead of Ravi I don't know! Rampaul is coming back from another injury I think, but why is he in and around the squad if they don't think he's fit enough to play? Easy to say in hindsight too, but dropping Bishoo is the wrong decision on this pitch. I thought Shillingford bowled really well though; the only batsman who looked relatively comfortable against him was Clarke, who will be mortified with his dismissal. Thought Watto batted well - he might have got to 50 and got out again, but 56 on this pitch might well be worth closer to a hundred.

Posted by ktk2020 on (April 16, 2012, 10:48 GMT)

It is really sad only 208 run score on day…it is so boring day …

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

Some West Indies Cricket fans seem to know more about individual nationalities than about Cricket. Bishoo is a favorite yes! But a well established concept in cricket is 'horses for courses'. Evidently the Aussies are better against leg-spin as opposed to off-spin. And as foe Miller, left-arm over is as good as leggies for the Australians. That is why Shilling, the best offie in the region is playing in this match. I would have preferred Rampaul to Castro, but given he is returning from illness, I cannot speculate about the thinking of the selectors and team management. Perhaps he was always in the squad, to get the training and team culture in preparation for England. For those who talk about sacrificing Bishoo and Kensington, what would you say is happening to Shillingford at Queens Park? The guy has bowled more than a third of the overs on day 1, and that too after as long a layoff as Bishoo, if not longer. The difference is he has bowled his variations with more confidence.

Posted by Hammond on (April 16, 2012, 10:32 GMT)

@RandyOZ I don't believe it will make much difference who you put on the park to be honest. As far as Shillingford goes I like his loop and drift. The windies seem to be producing better spin bowlers instead of pacemen. How times change.

Posted by Meety on (April 16, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

@landl47 - I agree it is not top class cricket, I believe that is due to the sub-standard nature of the pitch. I hate pitches that have variable bounce on the first day, not acceptable in my books. As I've said before, couldn't care less if it turns on Day 1 (part of cricket).

Posted by Micgyver on (April 16, 2012, 9:48 GMT)

@Naveed Australia playing for a draw is a seriously laughable comment to make.That only happens with sub continent teams which is why they will never be the best in test match cricket.Australia always play to win, you only have to look at the last test! The batting conditions are obviously tough and alot different to Australian conditions.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (April 16, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

@Naveed Khan, Australia never plays for a draw, it's not the way we roll. This looks like a difficult pitch so I think Aus is going ok. Can't believe the criticism toward Watto...at least he gets to 50. Why is K.Edwards out? Why isn't Rampaul in for Fidel? I can't believe they dropped Bishoo on this pitch. Sammy already overbowling Shilly- 32 overs on day 1 of a Test. Is it just me or does Sammy hardly bowl himself when seaming conditions look tough?

Posted by gzawilliam on (April 16, 2012, 6:34 GMT)

As an aussie supporter all i can say is Thank god Narine isnt playing this test series. We would be in big trouble if he was the way we are playing spinners atm.

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 5:26 GMT)

Australia is just playing for a draw. On balance WI is a better bowling side and Australia a better batting side. Once Bravo and Edwards mature and Sammy is out of the team, they will be test side to reckon with. It is nice to see WI competing hard and few victories under their belt and they will be a very strong side.

Posted by Keepa-batsman on (April 16, 2012, 5:19 GMT)

@rama_krish: Ponting retire? He has been run out by watson, bowled by a ball that rolled pretty much and just got a brute of a ball, so luck hasnt gone his way this series. He just scored a double century and a half century in his last 2 test innings, then 2 first class hundreds

Posted by landl47 on (April 16, 2012, 5:16 GMT)

After Harris was man of the match in Barbados, 'resting' him just means he isn't fit enough to play in this game. His record of not playing a complete series stretches back to 2010. It's a pity, because when he does play he looks good. Ponting failed again; after the India series I suggested that would have been a great time for him to retire. That suggestion is looking better with every innings. However, this is a tricky pitch and I think 250 will be a reasonable first innings score. WI bowled steadily, but not with any great menace and Baugh is a disaster behind the stumps. His drop of Hussey might prove critical later in the game. Let's be honest, this isn't top class test cricket, but it's interesting to watch.

Posted by hoodbu on (April 16, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

Will people stop referring to Bishoo as 'young'?? The guy is 26, not 16.

Posted by aclarity on (April 16, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

WI selectors are very reluctant to make changes. Edwards should not have been in the 14 man squad. In his last 4 tests he got 7 wickets. Is this our front line bowler? At his age and stage he is definitely not progressing. I agree with Maurice Foster - he is a waste of pace. He can not get 2 balls in the same spot. I remember Andy Roberts saying that pace is not everything. Edwards clearly demonstrates this.

Posted by noplay on (April 16, 2012, 4:54 GMT)

I seriously believe that Bishoo was sacrificed on the Kensington wicket to make room for Shillingford. Bishoo was made to bowl outside the leg stump on the final day to Watson, who swivelled to play aggressively. Insularity is alive and well in West Indies cricket. Pretty soon the show will be run by Windward Islanders. You mark my words, every member of the current Windward Islands team will be put on the field and made into a cricketer as they are trying to do with the captain Darren Sammy

Posted by jmcilhinney on (April 16, 2012, 4:24 GMT)

I'm not sure what Beer is likely to do with the bat but Pattinson showed himself to be pretty handy against India, so the Australian tail may not have extended too much. He's inexperienced though and also bats left-handed so might find the spinners a challenge.

Posted by Patchmaster on (April 16, 2012, 4:00 GMT)

Cowan Vs Katitch ? C'mon, Katitch was WAY WAY WAY better and still would be.

Posted by othello22 on (April 16, 2012, 3:47 GMT)

Surely Shane Watson is now the record holder for the most scores between fifty and sixty in the history of the game? Does his brain automatically shut down as soon as he sees a five in front of his score? I suppose I shouldn't complain, seeing as he has top scored.

Posted by maddy20 on (April 16, 2012, 3:10 GMT)

Really inept batting from the OZ. Its games like these that are causing people to lose interest in cricket. Pakistan and India have downed these guys with relative ease, but the so call soon-to-be-no.1-again side is huffing and puffing!

Posted by Meety on (April 16, 2012, 3:04 GMT)

@HatsforBats - my thoughts exactly, I would of "rested" him as precautionary anyway. Funny thing about Harris of late, he musn't be getting many memos from Arthur & Clarke. He was "no chance" of playing the 1st test, then before this match, he was the "fittest" he can be & NOT playing! @bobagorof - agree re: Cowan, I'd rather judge him by the end of the series, he does blunt the ball well & is a great foil for Warner. That all being said - I'd like a ton from him sometime in the next 3 innings!

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 1:50 GMT)

I mentioned this twice and I will mention it again, WI will pay for leaving Bishoo out of this match. The wicket is spinning already so just imagine what Bishoo would have done. India would have probably played three specialist spinners including working the part time spinners. This selection committee is a joke. Bishoo would have destroy the left handers on this wicket but there is no luck for this guy. I thought Sammy said Bishoo was an integral part of ths team regardless if he's had one bad short spell? Way to go Sammy, Good words for a team member then pull the carpet from under his feet. One word for Bishoo is that if he is ever selected again for WI, he will have to develop his batting so that he can be a dependable tail ender. Surprise Gibbs can talk about Lyon and had nothing to say about potential West Indies spinners.

I can almost predict the result of this match and what the selection would be for the third and final test.

I hope Sammy will get it right someday.

Posted by Chris_P on (April 16, 2012, 1:37 GMT)

rama_krish. Let's not get too worried about Punter. He got run out by Watson with a ridiculous call then got bowled with a ball that almost shot along the ground in the 2nd innings of the 1st test, hardly dismissals attributed to form. @Mitcher. Well said, this regime is not selecting guys who are not 100% & Harris would have had to have some niggles to have be bypassed, as was the same for Pattinson, 1st test & the last 2 against India. This is the correct way to go, always select bowlers who are 100% fit. I watched most of this live & the pitch is very, very difficult to play aggressively, it seems the Windies pitches have totally changed in character from the old days & they appear to play well on them. Well done to them with the test very much absorbing viewing.

Posted by RandyOZ on (April 16, 2012, 1:20 GMT)

Does anyone else feel like we are still playing an interim team? We should be playing the team we believe will win us the next Ashes, or near enough. I don't see Cowan and Beer, for example, in the Ashes squad.

Posted by Snick_To_Backward_Point on (April 16, 2012, 0:52 GMT)

If Lyon cant find some turn on this wicket the guy should be dropped like a stone.

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 0:52 GMT)

The reason Windies are playing two offspinners is because of the number of left handers on the Aussie side and the effect it had in the first test match against the right handers. Were you watching the same cricket as me?

Posted by bobagorof on (April 16, 2012, 0:40 GMT)

popcorn: I'm not convinced about Cowan. He's now played 9 innings for 2 fifties, and seems to struggle to get out of first gear. He plays a good foil to a more aggressive partner, and he can blunt the new ball (which is an under-rated skill these days) but he has a tendency to get bogged down. He really needs to convert some of his 20s and 30s into bigger scores.

Posted by   on (April 16, 2012, 0:16 GMT)

@rally west indies..why shill got pick over miller??He is better than miller thats why...i am for bishoo but i am not going to be bias against someone who bowled brilliantly today..big up shill and deonarine did his thing.i did not know he was that of a good spinner.

Posted by Meety on (April 16, 2012, 0:12 GMT)

Unsure as to what a good total will be, it will again be about what the follow up innings will be. I am hoping that Huss & Wade can add a few more runs then they did at the start of the 4th Day in the first Test. I am guessing a total near or better than 350, will be competitive.

Posted by Erebus26 on (April 16, 2012, 0:03 GMT)

Shillingford bowled well on his return but I'm sorry to see Bishoo dropped as I think the young leggie needs time to develop, plus Deonarine bowled well enough in the last match so why go with another offie? Looks a decent score for Australia on a slow pitch. Watson's knock might turn out to be important, as I don't know if any of the Windies batsmen bar Chanderpaul have the discipline and the technique to carve out a decent knock in this game.

Posted by HatsforBats on (April 15, 2012, 23:45 GMT)

Looks like picking two spinners was a good decision for Aus, I would not want to bat last on this pitch. If Harris felt any kind of niggle he should be rested, and at 1-0 it's a good opportunity for Pattinson to come in (the kid can bat too so we haven't lost anything there). Even if Harris is fully fit I don't mind him being rested if it's going to increase his time with the team.

Posted by Swingit on (April 15, 2012, 23:02 GMT)

For all Nikita Miller's first class success on the international scene he never looked like he belong (I mean he played Bangladesh in spin friendly St. Vincent with zero success) and I dont think he belongs now. I think Shillingford is a much better test player (even against the Sri Lankans in SL he impressed). As far as first class cricket in the Windies being THE measuring stick, well all I have to say is that Carlton Baugh in his last game scored 140.... and Devon Smith was for ages among the leading run-getters in regional cricket. I guess those two are superior batsmen at the test level than Darren Bravo and Kirk Edwards right? As a matter of fact i heard many a lament about Kirk Edwards inclusion in the test side ahead of the "usual suspects" who bully in regional cricket.... and then Windies had that test match against India in Dominica....

Posted by Mitcher on (April 15, 2012, 23:02 GMT)

Surely those getting in a tizz about Harris missing out have some understanding of his ongoing fitness issues. To suggest he has been dropped in the true sense of the word is either mischievous or horrendously ill-informed.

Posted by   on (April 15, 2012, 22:59 GMT)

@ Rally_Windies they didn't pick miller sir because it's a know fact that the Australians are suspect against good off Spinners...and the last time i checked Deonarine is a part time Spinner as you indicated...maybe the right fidel could be rested and give a go to Rampaul...but then again the management probably thought Rampaul is not quite match ready as he's coming from a long lay off from injury and illness...

Posted by popcorn on (April 15, 2012, 22:40 GMT)

I am not convinced that David Warner has the temperament to be a long term Test Opener. While he may have scored two Test centuries, so had Phil Hughes. Ed Cowan, on the other hand, is a dependable grafter.I think Watson should open the innings with Ed Cowan, Peter Forrest at No.3 ( Shaun Marsh / Usman Khawaja?),Ponting, Clarke, Hussey,Wade.

Posted by rama_krish on (April 15, 2012, 22:32 GMT)

I am saddened by Ponting's limited success in this series so far. Seems to me that he has reached his "sell by" date - decency suggests that he should retire gracefully and not wait for the selectors to drop him.

Posted by hhillbumper on (April 15, 2012, 22:29 GMT)

good to see the top 3 still showing its true class.

Posted by cheguramana on (April 15, 2012, 20:07 GMT)

Harris not being picked is probably not as big a deal for Australia as Rampaul not being picked for Windies. One gets the feeling that Aus is a much stronger team and a player here or there will not make a difference to the result.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (April 15, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

why Shillingford gets picked ahead of Miller is a huge question. Deonarine's offspin was very competent....

Vivi Richards was considered a good enough off spinner to keep Rangie Nanan out of the side....

the West Indies never play a specialist off spinner if they have a #6 offspin allrounder.... what has changed? Why play 2 offspiners NOW ?

while your #1 bowler in the region (for 3 years) is a left arm orthadox spinner ? why not play Miller the left arm spinner, with Doenarine the offspinner ? ? ?

I fully believe the WICB does not WANT to win any games.....

Posted by   on (April 15, 2012, 18:03 GMT)

Fidel Edwards since he came back from injury has bowled brilliantly at home against India and in India,first test was short of work,thats all.Today he started well,one game where he was short of work and let me guess drop him?,Bishoo had one bad game where he too was short of work as he was ignored for ALL of the one day internationals,so only played first class crciket and the first test,and was dropped,that was an intresting selection.Now as it relates to Rampaul,no one will see differently,he bowled briliantly against Pakistan and India at home last year and was good in India at the end of the year.he had a sholder injury and then had dengue fever and played ONLY one first class game,so question,do you bring him straight back in the team,are they also fitness concerns?Kemar Roach bowed really well in first class cricket and in the one day internationals,he EARNED his recall,so with all those dynamics,what do you do next?,i do not think that these selections are as straight forward.

Posted by drewkatski on (April 15, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

@Brannavan Ramchandran, not utilising the whole weekend, you do know the match ended on Friday right? RandyOZ, i agree, Harris definitely should not have been dropped as I remember top quality pacers such as Dale Steyn tearing batting lineups apart on this wicket. And yet another failure from Cowan, smh

Posted by Tlotoxl on (April 15, 2012, 17:52 GMT)

@Luke: I think Harris has been dropped because he is simple incapable of surviving the intense rigors of test cricket much like Simon Jones, hopefully Harris won't end up like Jones, makeing 2 or 3 one day county matches before yet another injury...

Posted by   on (April 15, 2012, 17:30 GMT)

@Luke Hantzis. Maybe Australia doesn't take matches against week nations seriously but neither do the Windies by the looks of it. They have left out their best player for almost a year now (Chris Gayle). They left out their best performing fast bowler too (Rampaul) and their best young talent and best spin bowler (Bishoo). The West Indies board don't take it seriouisly either starting the game on a sunday and not utilising the whole weekend

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (April 15, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

Rested to me means he isnt fit enough to come up again for back to back Tests. Shame as with his talent you'd hope he'd lead the attack. I think we'll see Pattinson , Cummins & Starc doing the Test bowling by next Australian summer with Hilfenhaus & Siddle backing them up.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (April 15, 2012, 17:20 GMT)

ok, so Bishoo had a bad game and was dropped. But Fidel Edwards has had about 20 bad games and continues to be our bowler of choise.. Rampaul who was the West Indies Best Bowler in Tests in 2011, still cannot make the team unless the Selectors pick 4 pacers... or if Roach or Edwards are injured.

once a spinner plays and ROcah and Sammy are fit... Rampaul cannot play...

It makes no sense whatsoever ... Rampaul has even been internationally recognised as possibly the most sucessfull New ball bowler actively playing the game....

Posted by   on (April 15, 2012, 15:34 GMT)

Starting a Test mtch on Sunday and not Saturday can lead to fans losing interest in the game. WICB rmember Some People work!!!!!!

Posted by RandyOZ on (April 15, 2012, 15:31 GMT)

Another backwards selection from our selectors, well done Arthur.

Posted by   on (April 15, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

WHY HAS HARRIS BEEN RESTED?! This raises the question: does Cricket Australia actually take Test matches against weak nations seriously anymore? I hope we get pummelled as a result. Blimey.

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