West Indies v Australia, 2nd Test, Port-of-Spain, 4th day April 18, 2012

Roach honours Marshall by harrying Australia

Kemar Roach has been the stand-out quick bowler in Port-of-Spain and he was full of pride on a significant day
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Within the space of eight months in 1988 and 1989, Malcolm Marshall turned in two of the most outstanding displays of fast bowling ever delivered on spinner's pitches: 7 for 22 from 15.4 overs against England at Old Trafford, and 5 for 29 from 31 overs against Australia at the SCG. In each match, a spinner took the new ball for the opposition, and in Sydney Marshall had to overcome the scepticism of his captain Viv Richards, who gave him only seven of the first 94 overs.

In Port-of-Spain in 2012, Kemar Roach has done his best to emulate Marshall, harrying Australia's second innings in the second Test at Queen's Park Oval. Roach has an awful long way to go before he gets anywhere near Marshall's level of mastery, but he has studied his forebear's ways, and could not hide his sense of warmth at performing well on a slow, spinning surface on what would have been Marshall's 54th birthday.

"I've watched a lot of clips of him and he was just such a great great, great bowler, he was the best bowler in the world at the time [he was playing]," Roach said of Marshall after rain curtailed the fourth day of the second Test. "I'm just glad, I can't really explain it, it's a good feeling to know that I got some wickets on his birthday today and it makes me feel warm as a West Indian to know I can go out here and perform for the West Indies like he did."

Like Roach, Marshall was not a tall man, but used his lower release point to advantage by skidding the ball down towards the batsmen while moving it both ways. Roach made a fair attempt at imitating these methods against the Australians, swerving the ball a little each way in the air, while also using his fingers and the seam to cut it off the pitch.

It was one such cutter that deceived Ed Cowan and found him lbw from around the wicket, while David Warner was confounded by a delivery that zipped away from him and touched the outside edge on the way to the slips cordon. The most spectacular moment of all, though, was reserved for Shane Watson, who left enough of a gap between bat and pad to allow a fast, seaming delivery to slide through low and send the off stump cartwheeling.

"It was a good sight. I really enjoyed that one obviously. Shane Watson's also a great batsman as well, I rate him a lot and to get him, on that wicket, is a good achievement," Roach said. "The lower the wicket is you obviously want to challenge the stumps a bit more. Keep your pace up and be as accurate as possible. That's what got my wickets today and I'm proud of myself for that."

Roach's career has had some peaks and troughs already in its brief journey, and he reflected on the fact that in 2011 he had found himself out of the West Indies Test XI while his senior fast bowling partner Fidel Edwards enjoyed a stronger year. However Roach has a certain knack of bowling well against Australia, having made his name down under in 2009. He is building his reputation again in 2012, and now has 13 wickets at 19.15 for the series, by a distance the most on either side.

"I don't think I'm doing anything better [than Edwards]," Roach said. "I still think Fidel's a great bowler, he's just a bit unlucky this game, and I know that if he plays the next Test match he will obviously perform. I know he's a guy who likes to be in the middle of everything. He's okay right now."

Roach's success against Cowan and Warner has challenged the capabilities of Australia's nascent opening combination, and he said he had schemed effectively with the coach Ottis Gibson to Test Warner in particular outside off stump.

"I will say that's one of our plans, to challenge the batsmen's techniques, and obviously bowl according to how the wicket is playing," Roach said. "There was always a plan to get him out early playing forward, and that has happened in every game.

"[Gibson] really is a good bowling coach, I enjoy working with him a lot. I've been working hard with him and I want to thank him for the success I've been getting so far and I'm going to keep working with him in the rest of my career hopefully."

With a third wicket for the innings, Roach took his match tally to eight, and he is now within two of not only honouring the departed Marshall but becoming the first West Indies bowler to claim 10 for the match against Australia since Curtly Ambrose did it in the Adelaide Test match won by a solitary run in 1993. At 23, Roach is still learning his trade, but Marshall would have approved of how he went about his work this day.

Daniel Brettig is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Meety on April 20, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    @ Aussasinator - well actually, the Ozzy batsmen are by & large are a lot better than in the 1980s as a whole. For most of Marshall's career he came up against Border & not much else, Jones had his days, Boonie was still learning his trade too, the Oz greats of the 70s were just retiring & the Oz side of the 90s was embryonic! Punter v Marshall with bost at their peak would of been a spectacle, although I suspect Marshall would fancy his chances early. IF Punter got in, I think he would smote Marshall!

  • Meety on April 20, 2012, 0:59 GMT

    @Derryk J B Fraser - whilst Sammy has a lot of deficiencies, the first name you listed in your preffered squad as captain would INSTANTLY undo all the good work that the Sammy/Gibson comb has done. Gayle is dynamite as a batsmen, very underrated offie too, but he is a lousy captain. Sammy has his faults, but atm the side lifts under him & are playing the best cricket that the WIndies have produced since the last days of Ambrose! @Kaze - "In Port-of-Spain in 2012, Kemar Roach has done his best to emulate Marshall," - the MOST important info that sentence is the words "done his best", if you are unable to comprehend the meaning of that, you really shouldn't make comments on subjective content. Stick to actual facts or something, btw, I am as Ozzy as they come, but McGrath WOULD NOT of bowled this line up out for 30 on this pitch, at the WACA a sub 100 maybe, but not in Port of Spain! @AdrianVanDenStael/mr hamilton - well said!

  • MaruthuDelft on April 19, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Marshal couldn't take wickets in his first or second overs like Lillee did for a long time. Lillee is the greatest. Viv Richards is the greatest because he wouldn't make us wait for a cracking boundary delivered in style. Of course it is not just about delivering quick but it is so important.

  • Aussasinator on April 19, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    No comparison with marshall but wait a minute, the batsmen he's getting out are not half as good as the Aussie batsmen of the marshall era are they?

  • AdrianVanDenStael on April 19, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    In fairness I don't either Roach or the author of this article is suggesting that Roach is anything like as good as Marshall. (All Mr Brettig says is that Roach has 'done his best to emulate Marshall'.) Roach describes Marshall as 'the best bowler in the world at the time'. For me, he could even arguably remove the clause 'at the time' from that statement. Marshall consistently took wickets all around the world (which others sometimes mentioned as the greatest bowler - Trueman, Lillee, Warne and S F Barnes - did not or did not have the opportunity to do) in all conditions at an amazing average of just over 20. The amazing thing about the 1989 Sydney test mentioned is that the only person who matched Marshall's bowling that game was Allan Border: Border took 11 for 96 in 44.4 overs in the match, whereas all the other spinners who bowled (Hohns, Taylor, Harper, Hooper, Richards) managed only 9 wickets for 536 in 185 overs between them! see espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63499.html

  • mrhamilton on April 19, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    I agree Andrei Slipszenko it should not be forgotton by all those baying for dwayne bravo, gayle, sarwan and taylor that under those guys the windies rarely played as a team or to really win. Despite his annoying habit of dropping crucial elementary catches SAMMY is a trier and plays with pride along with coach GIBSON they are a TEAM. I like Sammy think he is underrated but the bare stats say he isnt good enough to make it in the team as a batsmen but he is the windies best seam bowler on stats. So what he should be doing is playing himself either as a no 6 all rounder or 1 of 4 main bowlers which is the riskier option but one he has opted for. Lets see if he stands or fails.On stats Dwayne bravo blows sammy away but like i say sammy brings a competitive team effort and leadership. I do agree we never see the absolute best windies 11 for so long. My team would be Gayle, Barath, Edwards, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Sammy , Baugh, Rampaul,Roach ,Bishoo, Edwards.

  • on April 19, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    Fidel is struggling that's why luck is not going his way, you have to be in song to be lucky. Looking at him bowl in the 1st and now this present test he is struggling with his pace and line to the left right combination and to add to that Sammy don't know when to use him. A good captain bring out the best is a bowler like Fidel. Fidel is not a thinking bowler that's where the captain has to show his class. In my opinion Rampaul is a more thinking bowler and he should play in the last test.

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on April 19, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    RAMPHALl is still de best fast bowler in wi..Edwards bowling a bunch of garbage.. him finishl..Ramphal denied to play on him own home ground..what a SHAME! I hope WI lose dis test and series.

  • Kaze on April 19, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 You should be preparing to be whitewashed by England on your home grounds.

    @Fadil Ahmad McGrath averaged 9 runs per wicket at PoS so please don't mix up Antigua with Trinidad.

    @Meety "In Port-of-Spain in 2012, Kemar Roach has done his best to emulate Marshall, harrying Australia's second innings in the second Test at Queen's Park Oval. Roach has an awful long way to go before he gets anywhere near Marshall's level of mastery,"

  • on April 19, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    @dragline/andrei slipszenko. I quite agree with you guys. For one reason or another we never field our best possible side. My side would be (test matches): Gayle (cap.), Barath, Kirk Edwards, Darren Bravo, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Ramdin, Taylor, Rampaul, Roach, and Narine. Reserves: Baugh, Brathwaite, Deonarine, Powell, Bishoo, Shillingford, Dwayne Bravo and Fidel Edwards. Of course we would swop a batsman for Dwayne Bravo for a pacy pitch, or play an extra spinner instead of Rampaul or Taylor on a wicket taking spin. And keep Sammy for 20/20 and ODI. But, as we know, fat chance of getting such a team together. Ha, ha!

  • Meety on April 20, 2012, 12:15 GMT

    @ Aussasinator - well actually, the Ozzy batsmen are by & large are a lot better than in the 1980s as a whole. For most of Marshall's career he came up against Border & not much else, Jones had his days, Boonie was still learning his trade too, the Oz greats of the 70s were just retiring & the Oz side of the 90s was embryonic! Punter v Marshall with bost at their peak would of been a spectacle, although I suspect Marshall would fancy his chances early. IF Punter got in, I think he would smote Marshall!

  • Meety on April 20, 2012, 0:59 GMT

    @Derryk J B Fraser - whilst Sammy has a lot of deficiencies, the first name you listed in your preffered squad as captain would INSTANTLY undo all the good work that the Sammy/Gibson comb has done. Gayle is dynamite as a batsmen, very underrated offie too, but he is a lousy captain. Sammy has his faults, but atm the side lifts under him & are playing the best cricket that the WIndies have produced since the last days of Ambrose! @Kaze - "In Port-of-Spain in 2012, Kemar Roach has done his best to emulate Marshall," - the MOST important info that sentence is the words "done his best", if you are unable to comprehend the meaning of that, you really shouldn't make comments on subjective content. Stick to actual facts or something, btw, I am as Ozzy as they come, but McGrath WOULD NOT of bowled this line up out for 30 on this pitch, at the WACA a sub 100 maybe, but not in Port of Spain! @AdrianVanDenStael/mr hamilton - well said!

  • MaruthuDelft on April 19, 2012, 18:43 GMT

    Marshal couldn't take wickets in his first or second overs like Lillee did for a long time. Lillee is the greatest. Viv Richards is the greatest because he wouldn't make us wait for a cracking boundary delivered in style. Of course it is not just about delivering quick but it is so important.

  • Aussasinator on April 19, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    No comparison with marshall but wait a minute, the batsmen he's getting out are not half as good as the Aussie batsmen of the marshall era are they?

  • AdrianVanDenStael on April 19, 2012, 16:39 GMT

    In fairness I don't either Roach or the author of this article is suggesting that Roach is anything like as good as Marshall. (All Mr Brettig says is that Roach has 'done his best to emulate Marshall'.) Roach describes Marshall as 'the best bowler in the world at the time'. For me, he could even arguably remove the clause 'at the time' from that statement. Marshall consistently took wickets all around the world (which others sometimes mentioned as the greatest bowler - Trueman, Lillee, Warne and S F Barnes - did not or did not have the opportunity to do) in all conditions at an amazing average of just over 20. The amazing thing about the 1989 Sydney test mentioned is that the only person who matched Marshall's bowling that game was Allan Border: Border took 11 for 96 in 44.4 overs in the match, whereas all the other spinners who bowled (Hohns, Taylor, Harper, Hooper, Richards) managed only 9 wickets for 536 in 185 overs between them! see espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63499.html

  • mrhamilton on April 19, 2012, 16:09 GMT

    I agree Andrei Slipszenko it should not be forgotton by all those baying for dwayne bravo, gayle, sarwan and taylor that under those guys the windies rarely played as a team or to really win. Despite his annoying habit of dropping crucial elementary catches SAMMY is a trier and plays with pride along with coach GIBSON they are a TEAM. I like Sammy think he is underrated but the bare stats say he isnt good enough to make it in the team as a batsmen but he is the windies best seam bowler on stats. So what he should be doing is playing himself either as a no 6 all rounder or 1 of 4 main bowlers which is the riskier option but one he has opted for. Lets see if he stands or fails.On stats Dwayne bravo blows sammy away but like i say sammy brings a competitive team effort and leadership. I do agree we never see the absolute best windies 11 for so long. My team would be Gayle, Barath, Edwards, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Sammy , Baugh, Rampaul,Roach ,Bishoo, Edwards.

  • on April 19, 2012, 14:22 GMT

    Fidel is struggling that's why luck is not going his way, you have to be in song to be lucky. Looking at him bowl in the 1st and now this present test he is struggling with his pace and line to the left right combination and to add to that Sammy don't know when to use him. A good captain bring out the best is a bowler like Fidel. Fidel is not a thinking bowler that's where the captain has to show his class. In my opinion Rampaul is a more thinking bowler and he should play in the last test.

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on April 19, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    RAMPHALl is still de best fast bowler in wi..Edwards bowling a bunch of garbage.. him finishl..Ramphal denied to play on him own home ground..what a SHAME! I hope WI lose dis test and series.

  • Kaze on April 19, 2012, 13:37 GMT

    @rahulcricket007 You should be preparing to be whitewashed by England on your home grounds.

    @Fadil Ahmad McGrath averaged 9 runs per wicket at PoS so please don't mix up Antigua with Trinidad.

    @Meety "In Port-of-Spain in 2012, Kemar Roach has done his best to emulate Marshall, harrying Australia's second innings in the second Test at Queen's Park Oval. Roach has an awful long way to go before he gets anywhere near Marshall's level of mastery,"

  • on April 19, 2012, 13:02 GMT

    @dragline/andrei slipszenko. I quite agree with you guys. For one reason or another we never field our best possible side. My side would be (test matches): Gayle (cap.), Barath, Kirk Edwards, Darren Bravo, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, Ramdin, Taylor, Rampaul, Roach, and Narine. Reserves: Baugh, Brathwaite, Deonarine, Powell, Bishoo, Shillingford, Dwayne Bravo and Fidel Edwards. Of course we would swop a batsman for Dwayne Bravo for a pacy pitch, or play an extra spinner instead of Rampaul or Taylor on a wicket taking spin. And keep Sammy for 20/20 and ODI. But, as we know, fat chance of getting such a team together. Ha, ha!

  • on April 19, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    @Thomas Cherian. I noticed from the speed gun that Fidel was bowling between 132 and 137 km/h, which is not very fast. At this pace Rampaul is not far behind. I have even seen Rampaul bowl at 139 km. Surely Fidel can bowl at at least 140km? Any body knows if he's fully fit?

  • Metman on April 19, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    @ Meety ! Well said ! Kaze is one of those people who would read an article and don't understand what the writer is saying !....Fidel has been unlucky in both innings thanks to Sammy....and Rampaul was only good during the last 8 months of his 3 year career......Edwards is the more consistent of the two overall, with 11 five wicket hauls to his name.@ Kaze ! .and Lyon isn't lucky that there is no Gordon Greenidge or Viv. Richards in this WI batting too ! Would have love to see Malcom Marshall bowl to this Aussie lineup,they wouldn't get 25 against him !

  • Beertjie on April 19, 2012, 10:58 GMT

    Good comments, @dragline. We shouldn't diss Sammy, but as test captain, he's a liability. Dwayne Bravo would be a good replacement right now allowing the following 11 to play England next month: Brathwaite, Powell, Edwards, Bravo, Chanders, Bravo, Baugh, Roach, Rampaul, Narine, Edwards (12th man: Shillingford). Others in that squad could be Gayle, Russell, and Deonarine. Cover the bases!

  • SamRoy on April 19, 2012, 10:34 GMT

    If Malcolm Marshall was bowling at his best today current Australian team would struggle to make 150 on any surface. Only Clarke and to some extent a fading Hussey would have resisted him. Roach is not even 10% as dangerous as Marshall. Anyway, why is Fidel Edwards playing in Rampaul's place? And Sammy must bat at No 6 and allow 4 genuine bowlers in the team.

  • on April 19, 2012, 10:26 GMT

    @rahulcricket007: It SEEMS SO

  • RandyOZ on April 19, 2012, 10:08 GMT

    Roach really isn't as good as everyone makes him out to be. If he can get consistent he will be far more effective

  • Buggsy on April 19, 2012, 8:53 GMT

    Despite playing for another country Marshall was one of my childhood heroes; in fact all the kids I played with in the early eighties wanted to be just like him. Roach still has a way to go, but he has the pace and more than enough humility to become just as influential. I love his attitude as well.

  • on April 19, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    What I am seeing here with Sammy/Gibson at the helm is a West Indies that is starting to CARE and playing with some pride at last.. It's wonderful to see proper fast bowlers in the side again. AT LAST :-) now if we can find another 2 or 3 Shivs we really would be in with a shout!

  • Meety on April 19, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    @Kaze - nobody anywhere said that Roach was as good as Marshall, I think you have misinterpreted the article. Re-read the heading, Roach HONOURS Marshall. It's not Roach BETTERS Marshall or even EQUALS. Roach clearly takes from Marshall as inspiration & given the evolving nature of WIndies pitches, he'll need to study him very closely on how to bowl on unhelpful strips. @Jono Makim - well said, I find promising fast bowlers a very exciting thing to see regardless of where they come from, (actually I think India may have something in Yadav too). I reckon Marshall would be beaming that massive smile of his wherever he may be!

  • on April 19, 2012, 4:40 GMT

    Good on you Kemar, he is obviously proud to be representing the West Indies as a whole. Really like his attitude too, he just bowls, no more than that, no show ponying about, but gees he is bowling well! Mikey Holding was giving him plenty of wraps in commentary and i'm sure Malcolm Marshall would have been just as proud as anyone to watch him bowl today.

  • sri2001 on April 19, 2012, 4:32 GMT

    Please appreciate the bowling of Roach, but don't compare him to Marshall. Marshall was dangerous on dead pitches were even spinners don't get assistance. Roach has a long way to go, to be compared to Marshall.

  • Percy_Fender on April 19, 2012, 4:19 GMT

    How I wish the batting too gets like it used to with Greenidge,Haynes Richards and Gomes. Roach will be there at the top soon enough. In fact he will benefit from IPL also like Steyn and Morkel have.

  • dragline on April 19, 2012, 3:27 GMT

    i must give codose to Gibson for the work he has done with our bowlers. Turning the ordinary into class acts. Good to see. i think for test matches we need to find another captain than Sanny. He can captain the t20 and the odi's but for test matches i can't see it. Rampaul need to play, he has been our best bowler but Sanny is keeping him out.... i like the focus and the improvement that i am seeing with the team.

  • Robster1 on April 19, 2012, 3:05 GMT

    And if Jerome Taylor can ever be added into the team, then with Gayle back in the XI the Windies are starting to look like a better side.

  • mamboman on April 19, 2012, 2:17 GMT

    Malcolm Marshall was simply the best bowler I have seen in 50 years of watching top cricket. Roach will do well to always remember his examples.

  • rahulcricket007 on April 19, 2012, 2:00 GMT

    @KAZE . AUSTRALIA ARE LUCKY THAT GAYLE , NARINE & BRAVO ARE PLAYING IN IPL OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST THE FIRST TEST MATCH .

  • on April 19, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    @Kaze Glenn Mcgrath was a good bowler no doubt but remember we was bowling when Chanderpaul make 100 + with WI record run chase. SO don't make a statement like WI cant make 30 Against him.

  • Gizza on April 19, 2012, 0:25 GMT

    Still think the current West Indian bowlers on pure talent are close to their predecessors. Roach and Edwards seem to emulate the likes of Marshall and Ambrose for about a couple of overs then becoming incredibly inconsistent for the next five. Jaffas followed by wide balls, leg side balls, half volleys, short balls (but not short enough) is a typical story of post 2000 West Indies unfortunately. I don't see how this can ever be fixed unless they find one of those magical, inspirational captains like an Imran Khan, Worrell or Waugh.

  • on April 18, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    hopefully roach keeps his head, doesn't get distracted by ipl, and goes on to become a great! we need great west indian bowlers in the test arena.

  • Kaze on April 18, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    *yawn* Roach is not even remotely in the same class as Marshall. He isn't bowling to the same quality of batsmen. He is lucky there is no Steve Waugh and Allan Border are in this test. Would have loved to see Glenn McGrath bowl to this WI line up, they wouldn't get to 30 against him.

  • Meety on April 18, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    Fingers crossed that Roach remains injury free, play minimal IPL matches & continues his development. If he does so, the WIndies become a much stronger force.

  • Metman on April 18, 2012, 22:42 GMT

    Keep up the good work,as I said a long time ago,you needed to be agressive,as you were just running in and delivering.Would like now to see Jason Holder join Carlos Brathwaite in the Bdos lineup to learn a thing or two alongside yourself and Fidel....good for WI cricket in the long run.

  • on April 18, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    Roach is doing good wish Fidel would step up...if he does not then it is time to give Rampaul a chance

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  • on April 18, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    Roach is doing good wish Fidel would step up...if he does not then it is time to give Rampaul a chance

  • Metman on April 18, 2012, 22:42 GMT

    Keep up the good work,as I said a long time ago,you needed to be agressive,as you were just running in and delivering.Would like now to see Jason Holder join Carlos Brathwaite in the Bdos lineup to learn a thing or two alongside yourself and Fidel....good for WI cricket in the long run.

  • Meety on April 18, 2012, 23:22 GMT

    Fingers crossed that Roach remains injury free, play minimal IPL matches & continues his development. If he does so, the WIndies become a much stronger force.

  • Kaze on April 18, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    *yawn* Roach is not even remotely in the same class as Marshall. He isn't bowling to the same quality of batsmen. He is lucky there is no Steve Waugh and Allan Border are in this test. Would have loved to see Glenn McGrath bowl to this WI line up, they wouldn't get to 30 against him.

  • on April 18, 2012, 23:51 GMT

    hopefully roach keeps his head, doesn't get distracted by ipl, and goes on to become a great! we need great west indian bowlers in the test arena.

  • Gizza on April 19, 2012, 0:25 GMT

    Still think the current West Indian bowlers on pure talent are close to their predecessors. Roach and Edwards seem to emulate the likes of Marshall and Ambrose for about a couple of overs then becoming incredibly inconsistent for the next five. Jaffas followed by wide balls, leg side balls, half volleys, short balls (but not short enough) is a typical story of post 2000 West Indies unfortunately. I don't see how this can ever be fixed unless they find one of those magical, inspirational captains like an Imran Khan, Worrell or Waugh.

  • on April 19, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    @Kaze Glenn Mcgrath was a good bowler no doubt but remember we was bowling when Chanderpaul make 100 + with WI record run chase. SO don't make a statement like WI cant make 30 Against him.

  • rahulcricket007 on April 19, 2012, 2:00 GMT

    @KAZE . AUSTRALIA ARE LUCKY THAT GAYLE , NARINE & BRAVO ARE PLAYING IN IPL OTHERWISE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LOST THE FIRST TEST MATCH .

  • mamboman on April 19, 2012, 2:17 GMT

    Malcolm Marshall was simply the best bowler I have seen in 50 years of watching top cricket. Roach will do well to always remember his examples.

  • Robster1 on April 19, 2012, 3:05 GMT

    And if Jerome Taylor can ever be added into the team, then with Gayle back in the XI the Windies are starting to look like a better side.