West Indies v Australia, 3rd Test, Roseau, 1st day April 23, 2012

Shillingford puts West Indies on top

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Australia 212 for 7 (Warner 50, Shillingford 4-77) v West Indies
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Get the sign-writer ready. If Shane Shillingford's first day of Test cricket in his home nation was an audition to have a stand named after him at Windsor Park, it couldn't have gone much better. Shillingford finished the day with four wickets and put West Indies in a strong position as the Australian batsmen struggled to handle his bounce and turn, and at the close of play West Indies had given themselves a chance of the victory they needed to draw the series.

Of course, with four days still to play, there was plenty of time for the Australians to fight back. But 212 for 7 was far from the score the captain Michael Clarke was anticipating when he won the toss and chose to bat. David Warner made 50 and Shane Watson scored 41 but neither they nor their colleagues looked truly comfortable, initially against the swing of Ravi Rampaul and then against Shillingford's spin.

At stumps, Matthew Wade was on 22 and had fought hard to survive 72 balls, while the recalled Mitchell Starc was on 24, having struck a six late in the day. But West Indies had taken the second new ball and it was curving in the air enough to challenge the two left-handers, and the morning session on the second day promised to be a tough one for Australia's lower order. Not that it was pace that caused the most problems on day one.

Shillingford, playing in his home country of Dominica, used his height to great effect, troubling the batsmen with bounce and bite off the pitch. He ended the day with 4 for 77 but created far more chances besides those that brought wickets. Ricky Ponting and Clarke had both been especially hampered by Shillingford and he eventually had the reward of removing them both.

Shortly after he passed Rahul Dravid to become the second-highest run scorer in Test cricket, Ponting departed for 23 when he gloved a ball that turned and bounced more than he expected, and Darren Sammy ran around from leg slip to take the catch square of the wicket. A few overs later, Clarke (24) was also done by the bounce and gloved the ball to short leg.

Shillingford's fourth arrived when Michael Hussey, on 10, edged another fine delivery and was brilliantly taken at slip by Sammy, whose reflexes were quick enough that he could run to his left and grab the ball with his arm outstretched. It was a just reward for Shillingford, who had been a threat all day, initially without luck.

Kemar Roach chipped in later in the day with a well-directed bouncer that caught the glove of Ryan Harris on the way through to the wicketkeeper, before Wade and Starc came together. Their partnership had grown to 43 by stumps and the close perhaps came at the right time for the hosts, who can start afresh on Tuesday.

They had started about as well as they could have hoped on Monday. Rampaul, included for his first match of the series after Fidel Edwards was ruled out due to injury, curved his second ball in beautifully and surprised Ed Cowan, who offered no shot and was lbw. The only aspect of the dismissal that did not represent a misjudgement by Cowan was his decision not to ask for a review.

Rampaul was impressive with the new ball, swinging it and troubling the batsmen, and he didn't concede a run until his 17th delivery. He should have had a second wicket when Warner, on 5, edged to third slip but the captain Sammy spilled a simple chance and to add to the frustration for West Indies, Sammy introduced himself in the next over and was duly driven for four by Warner.

Warner and Watson steadied Australia and both men were able to survive, despite looking scratchy early. On the rare occasions that the bowlers overpitched or dropped short, they drove or pulled well, but never did they appear truly settled. Their 83-run stand came to a close when Watson, on 41 from 120 balls, top-edged an attempted pull off Sammy and was caught at deep square leg.

Soon afterwards, Warner, on 50, cut uppishly and was caught at cover point, delivering Shillingford his first wicket, and the Roseau crowd their first moment of home-town pride for the day. There were plenty more to come.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • on April 25, 2012, 3:07 GMT

    It should be extremely obvious that what West Indies cricket team needs to push it over the edge is a more than Sammy & Gibson can provide. It is very difficult for mediocrity bundled with ineptitude & naivety/ inexperience to produce consistent and significant success no matter how much passion , commitment and youthful exuberance is in the mix. that is just plain and straight facts.

  • on April 25, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    Everybody taking about how good the team look with Sammy as captain but I see no big deal. I am sure all the other major teams dont see anything to make them shiver in their boots either. We are still consistently losing or failing to win matches & entire series that we should/ could have won. looking good for a couple of days or the majority of an ODI & then losing due to batting collapses, ridiculous decision making, incapability of getting rid of tailenders & incompetence in the field is still losing. In spite of the interference of weather at times the West Indies team under Sammy & Gibson has been in excellent positions to win every test & ODI series since they have been in charge including the World Cup yet they have only managed to beat Bangladesh. Am I crazy if I dont believe that is anything to feel extremely supportive & excited about?

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 18:54 GMT

    @Rickb I must have missed the declaration. And I have noticed that Australia has as much trouble dismissing our tail as we do theirs, so I wouldn't worry unduly over that. The point is not the tail, it's the team score. From this vaunted Australia side, I'll take under 350 and run with it.

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    @WallyOz, 250 on this pitch? As far as I know, Australia have barely played in Dominica. What other people made years ago is no barometer for today. In any case, I'm comparing apples to apples. 7 wickets is 7 wickets and its more than a little dismissive to assume that you can always dig yourself out of holes like that. I don't think it speaks well to your team that you get into these positions in the first place, never mind Windies doesn't have the bench strength right now to really make you pay. I don't know what your comments about Narine and the English have to do with anything, but I'm here to tell you that the results of this Test match mean less than the results of the tour so far. And so far it's been the Aussies LABOURING to win against vastly depleted and 'inferior' opposition, and not managing it yet. So keep talking about how you know how to 'win'. Apparently so far, you only know how to draw.

  • Rickb on April 24, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    It seems West Indies only aim to get the first five batsmen out and then relax thinking that the others will give their wickets away. From 166-7 to over 3 hundred for 8, will not be surprised if Clarke declares soon.

  • 12thUmpire on April 24, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    Shillingford beat Wade in the race to the century! :-)

  • delboy on April 24, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Perhaps its time to toss the ball to Deonarine. There no point bowling Shillingford just so that he gets 5-150. Unless the WI are hoping that the AUS first inning score is enough to guarantee them being allowed to follow on and be bowled out twice the third or fourth day of this test.

  • on April 24, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Don't the West Indian bowling coach teach these bowlers how to bowl to tail-enders? Looks like Australia is set to make 450 judging from the bowling.

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    @ RandyOz you can continue waiting for that poor sod Lyon to be more than a pretender to Ashley Giles. While you're at it, @TheLIght can keep you company. He's waiting for the West Indies to start going backwards to he can froth at the mouth at Sammy some more.

  • OzWally on April 24, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    @rsgarcia, et.al. Australian supporters are still confident at 7 down overnight for 2 main reasons. 1. This team knows how to win matches (8 wins, 2 losses in their last 13) and 2. We are capable of looking back at past matches in the WI and realising 250 on this pitch is a par score. Before you criticize make sure you are actually comparing apples to apples. I don't want to know what England would do to this team in English conditions (irrelavent) or how Indian IPL performances (Narine) make someone a better test player than another.

  • on April 25, 2012, 3:07 GMT

    It should be extremely obvious that what West Indies cricket team needs to push it over the edge is a more than Sammy & Gibson can provide. It is very difficult for mediocrity bundled with ineptitude & naivety/ inexperience to produce consistent and significant success no matter how much passion , commitment and youthful exuberance is in the mix. that is just plain and straight facts.

  • on April 25, 2012, 3:00 GMT

    Everybody taking about how good the team look with Sammy as captain but I see no big deal. I am sure all the other major teams dont see anything to make them shiver in their boots either. We are still consistently losing or failing to win matches & entire series that we should/ could have won. looking good for a couple of days or the majority of an ODI & then losing due to batting collapses, ridiculous decision making, incapability of getting rid of tailenders & incompetence in the field is still losing. In spite of the interference of weather at times the West Indies team under Sammy & Gibson has been in excellent positions to win every test & ODI series since they have been in charge including the World Cup yet they have only managed to beat Bangladesh. Am I crazy if I dont believe that is anything to feel extremely supportive & excited about?

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 18:54 GMT

    @Rickb I must have missed the declaration. And I have noticed that Australia has as much trouble dismissing our tail as we do theirs, so I wouldn't worry unduly over that. The point is not the tail, it's the team score. From this vaunted Australia side, I'll take under 350 and run with it.

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 18:51 GMT

    @WallyOz, 250 on this pitch? As far as I know, Australia have barely played in Dominica. What other people made years ago is no barometer for today. In any case, I'm comparing apples to apples. 7 wickets is 7 wickets and its more than a little dismissive to assume that you can always dig yourself out of holes like that. I don't think it speaks well to your team that you get into these positions in the first place, never mind Windies doesn't have the bench strength right now to really make you pay. I don't know what your comments about Narine and the English have to do with anything, but I'm here to tell you that the results of this Test match mean less than the results of the tour so far. And so far it's been the Aussies LABOURING to win against vastly depleted and 'inferior' opposition, and not managing it yet. So keep talking about how you know how to 'win'. Apparently so far, you only know how to draw.

  • Rickb on April 24, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    It seems West Indies only aim to get the first five batsmen out and then relax thinking that the others will give their wickets away. From 166-7 to over 3 hundred for 8, will not be surprised if Clarke declares soon.

  • 12thUmpire on April 24, 2012, 15:44 GMT

    Shillingford beat Wade in the race to the century! :-)

  • delboy on April 24, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Perhaps its time to toss the ball to Deonarine. There no point bowling Shillingford just so that he gets 5-150. Unless the WI are hoping that the AUS first inning score is enough to guarantee them being allowed to follow on and be bowled out twice the third or fourth day of this test.

  • on April 24, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    Don't the West Indian bowling coach teach these bowlers how to bowl to tail-enders? Looks like Australia is set to make 450 judging from the bowling.

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 14:04 GMT

    @ RandyOz you can continue waiting for that poor sod Lyon to be more than a pretender to Ashley Giles. While you're at it, @TheLIght can keep you company. He's waiting for the West Indies to start going backwards to he can froth at the mouth at Sammy some more.

  • OzWally on April 24, 2012, 13:59 GMT

    @rsgarcia, et.al. Australian supporters are still confident at 7 down overnight for 2 main reasons. 1. This team knows how to win matches (8 wins, 2 losses in their last 13) and 2. We are capable of looking back at past matches in the WI and realising 250 on this pitch is a par score. Before you criticize make sure you are actually comparing apples to apples. I don't want to know what England would do to this team in English conditions (irrelavent) or how Indian IPL performances (Narine) make someone a better test player than another.

  • on April 24, 2012, 13:41 GMT

    Guyana is an Amerindian word that means "land of many waters". The WICB made Bishoo, and now, Fudadin water boys for the series. However, these selectors are so sophomoric, that they fail to realize that you can't survive without water for too long. Without Chanderpaul, West Indies would be scoring baseball runs!

  • rsgarcia on April 24, 2012, 13:32 GMT

    The comments of people like @noplay, RandyOz and Marcio astound me. Listen guys, if Windies were down 7 wickets after one day, the scoreline wouldn't matter to you--Aussies would be on top. Keep hedging your bets that Windies will never learn to stop letting strong positions slip. They're in a learning curve and you may yet escape, but your time will come because while our team is improving, everyone else is staggering. I will say this--every Aussie fan on here trying to convince us we're not that good told us we wouldn't win a match. Now here they are, trying to avoid another series tie and denouncing the cricket as mediocre. How the mighty have fallen.

  • on April 24, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    Beertjie, I see your point with your example with Border, S Waugh etc but then we had depth in our batting with Shield players averaging well over 55-60 waiting for a crack at Test level. ie Martyn, Hayden, Law, Lehman, Martin Love, M Hussey etc. Katich etc. Now there is no-one that stands out with averages which would make them an automatic selection. Australia has a massive problem when it's best Sheild batsman (Cowan) can barely make 50 runs against attacks which arent all that (India and WI's). Ponting may be failing currently but he is still capable to get a ton and win you a game here and there. There is no argument that even in his decline, Punter is still one of your best as he proved against India. I think Australia is at a cross-roads at the moment in regards to it's direction and I think a potential sacking of Ponting will cause greater stress on the team and even Clarke who I think is already starting to feel pressure with his failing batting line-up.

  • OzWally on April 24, 2012, 13:19 GMT

    @TommytuckerSaffa - Ponting is the in the team because of 544 runs at 108.80 against India. However, with Australia's next series not scheduled for another 6 plus months, this may be his last hurrah. And Cowan is opening because of a solid 1st series against India, but as he hasn't performed as well as they would have liked (I'm sure) and I'd suspect he's on the hot seat also. Vary rarely do touring teams make major changes during a series, you go with what you took (bar injury).

  • Dav1daKing on April 24, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    ma cool off sammy's bashing for a while, observe more and see what comes out of it.

  • VivTheKing on April 24, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    Sammy looks to be the right guy to take west indies to the past glory. He has a lots of technical flaws but so what? Dhoni who digs the ground in the name of batting has captioned the side and has gained some results in the past. So if the guy can bring positive energy to the side, he can be accommodated rather than having egoists like Gayle. This side will be a treat to watch if gayle/taylor/bravo sn returns. Gayle,barath,KEdwards,BravoJn,deonarine,chanders,bravoSn,ramdin,sammy*,Roach, shillingford/bishoo is the best team that can play.

  • Erebus26 on April 24, 2012, 12:34 GMT

    Felt sorry for Fudadin - I really thought that they would've given him a game - possibly in place of Barath but I hope he gets on the England tour and gets a few opportunities there.

  • Beertjie on April 24, 2012, 12:25 GMT

    As someone who rated Ponting great - not great enough to make the all-time Oz XI but still great - it pains me to see him being defended by his mates while he's scratching around the crease. I agree with @siri1234 - he should have been replaced long ago. It's most un-Australian to retain him, while pushing Border, Waugh and others greats. While the reserve strength doesn't look too good, it's simply suicidal to scorn opportunities of giving people like Forrest (who I personally don't rate, but hey, what do I know) a go before the tours to India and England. Aussie A tours are not going to give people TEST experience. Come on, implement Argus properly by sending the once great Punter on his way!

  • 6pack on April 24, 2012, 12:09 GMT

    I hope Mr Sundararajan thinks the same of a certain Saching Tendulkar.... enough with all the talk of passion and country... reture already!

  • golfbuffed on April 24, 2012, 11:37 GMT

    I am caught somewhere in the middle of the two camps re. Sammy. I think the guy is a really good captain and, of the current team, is the only clear choice for this position. This I base on the way he manages to motivate and inspire confidence in the team. I felt that WI were never short of talent in the past couple decades but really of confidence, and this to me is largely what is responsible for the more regular glimmers of hope that we the public can look forward to. Talent, if not brilliance, has always been there and will always continue to be there. That mentioned, Sammy is neither a very good bowler, batsman nor consistent fielder and if it were on that merit alone, would certainly not deserve his place. People may mock the terms "specialist captain" or "captaining captain", but until a clearer choice of this key role for a team that needs this gel to bring out their best is seen, I would continue to grudgingly support his place on the team.

  • on April 24, 2012, 11:19 GMT

    It was a mistake to call up Fudadin & not play him. We r looking for batters, we have seen Powell. An opportunity to c the new boy & give Aus s/ thing to work out. Now that the pitch is taking spin & bounce on the 1st day Kraigg & Kieron r early wks for AUS. Fadudin,like most Guyanese, play spin much better. WI r in trouble in this test. Spin & bounce on the 1st day? Let's hope Shiv & Narsingh can pull it off. Bravo will have to step up to the plate in this test or else?

  • on April 24, 2012, 11:02 GMT

    Sammy haters need to like the team first. By all accounts WI were predicted to be thrashed in ALL 3 formats and not win a single game. We know the facts that the 20/20s and ODIs were tied. If the WI win this test match the drawn series would be fair. As for those commentators who do not have a clue about who is who in WI cricket. We say check your statistics.

  • on April 24, 2012, 10:54 GMT

    Sammy haters are not West Indian Team fans! According to ,all pre series predictions. The West Indies should have lost all the matches in this series from the 20/20s to all 3 test. We know the facts. This team encourages me to watch them fight. If we win this match and draw the series it would be for WI as good as a series win.

  • noplay on April 24, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    Folks, folks calm down. First this is a number four team playing a number 7 team. The cricket is mediocre at best. I saw a schoolboy take 8 wickets yesterday for the under 15s against his school side. It happens. Secondly I do not understand how after one day's play, one can conclude that West Indies are on top? It tells me that Australia will be bowled out early this morning and WI will go on the score 400 plus. Is there a chance that Australia should not have made 150 and that WI have already blown it?

  • Front-Foot_lunge on April 24, 2012, 10:05 GMT

    I worry about the windies tour of England in a few months after this competitive series with the aussies. They are no easy beats anymore and after our shellacking by Pakistan (3-0) and our abysmal display against sri-lanka, (which the even the aussies beat), I suspect that we'll struggle.

    We're a paper #1 anyway, hardly deserving of the top spot no matter what our fans keep trying to tell ourselves. This Windies bowling attack will be highly competitive in England and our pitiful batting, which was routed against pakistan, I fear will share the same fate in 'fortress' England.

    That said, we may well win the series on the back of our bowlers but since we've been bowled out for the pitiful 51 before against the windies, posting totals like that is too large an ask for our bowling department.

  • on April 24, 2012, 10:02 GMT

    how long will Wi continue to field a failing top order, lets get Sarvin in there at 3..

  • on April 24, 2012, 9:53 GMT

    Where is Fuduadin and why he was not selected. I cannot believe they brought him over to be 12th man.

    Way to go WI

  • TommytuckerSaffa on April 24, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    Having huge respect for Oz over the years as a superpower, can someone explain to me why Ponting is still there (apart from wanting to beat Dravid's record) and what Ed Cowan is doing in that team...?

    Sammy seems to be pulling the Windies together even if he has technical flaws. He is doing a far better job Gayle as captain, thats for sure.

  • siri1234 on April 24, 2012, 9:05 GMT

    australia r doing wrong by not dropping ricky ponting from the team.oh wait i forgot that he was a legend once upon a time .and people say this happens only in asia (where one just cannot drop sachin n jayasuriya before they wish).n asians should learn from australia no matter how big a star u r, team comes first .but now the same australians r finding it very very hard to drop a legend who has become liability for the team for last 2 years n is just a passenger now a days.

  • on April 24, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    My goodness, the Sammy hateration is sad. Am just happy to see a competitive WI team at present.

  • smudgeon on April 24, 2012, 8:06 GMT

    Ah yes, Sammy's everything that's wrong with Windies cricket...er, not really! Agree totally with Meety here (no surprise). Gayle might be one of the most talented cricketer the Windies have produced in the last 10 years, but the dude's attitude towards test cricket and laissez faire approach to captaincy aren't the answer. Sammy, if you ask me, if the key to a strong Windies side in 5 years' time.

  • N.Sundararajan on April 24, 2012, 8:03 GMT

    N. Sundararajan---now that Ricky POnting has crossed Rahul Dravid's aggregate, the Australian Selectors should bid farewell to him, unless he himself resigns gracefully. All this talk of "enjoying the game, passion, etc---are enough !"

  • on April 24, 2012, 7:52 GMT

    I completely agree with VivGilchrist. We have become to tentative. Poking and prodding isn't the style of most of our batsmen who are naturally attacking. I feel many have a feeling of insecurity and play fearing they will get out playing a wild shot. The W'I's have been bowling well but they are hardly world beaters. If anything, I think there is a lack of confidence in almost all the batsman, not that they are out of form. Maybe a jingle of the batting line-up would help. Possibly Hussey opening to get those singles going from ball one because all I see is Cowan leaving and blocking and then Warner having the pressure to get the runs. Ponting should return to 1st drop and Watson to come in before the wickie. Cowan dropped altogether. Thankfully, the tail has been wagging and that has been Australia's salvation. Actually the bowlers have looked much better with the bat in genaral and that is troublesome.

  • VivGilchrist on April 24, 2012, 7:45 GMT

    I think that photo was taken from fielding practice before the game where Shilly was having a shy at the stumps.

  • Bigbanger666 on April 24, 2012, 6:54 GMT

    @ one-eyed-but-keepinitreal. Good call. Surely he must be returning the ball to the keeper at the end of the over.

  • one-eyed-but-keepinitreal on April 24, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    I haven't seen much of Shillingford's bowling, but, the photo attached to this article has to be a picture of him throwing the ball in from the boundary. Doesn't it?

  • Meety on April 24, 2012, 6:05 GMT

    @Ras10 - I disagree, most people who defend Sammy do so because they remember how disinterested WI cricketers were under Gayle (due respect to his talent). The Sammy/Gibson show have done well although the dropping of The Chanders from the ODI side is a real "Doh" moment! Sammy's bowling is sound & steady, his fielding is not good for a slipper, but he is very good in the covers, & his batting is just below par for a #8, (way below if as an allrounder), so he isn't far off holding his spot on individual performance alone. Find a better captain in the WI, then Sammy will be in danger of being dropped. Normally you would want to find your best XI, then select a captain, but the spirit & fight in this team atm, I wouldn't want to disturb that. Be great to know what the feedback is on Sarwan's captaincy in County cricket????

  • on April 24, 2012, 5:36 GMT

    I find it very unusual for the Aussies to be crawling like. Is it the bowling attack or the pitch because Australia always scored at 4 runs an over. Did the Australians decide to drop anchor? This team was smashing the Indians, who were smashed by the Poms. The Aussies got bowled out for low totals against SA and NZ. So my conclusion is that India has one of the worst bowling attacks in the world when the travel. NZ were lucky to have scraped victory against Aus in Hobart and SA were dominant but still not the best. The Aussies just always hang in there til the end. Perhaps no one knows who is the best outright team or how to play the best cricket unless they make high scores and roll opposition for paltry totals. Australia is currently not doing that.

  • Marcio on April 24, 2012, 5:35 GMT

    @Kiteflier, I have to laugh at the sheer obstinate irrationality of posters like you. Australia is winning the series, dude, not losing. They CAN'T lose the series, and would most likely be 2-0 up if not for rain. They haven't lost a series since the Ashes: ODI tournaments vs BANG (away -won), Eng (Hm-w), SL (away-w), India and SL (home -w), SA and WI (away - drew). Test series vs NZ (hm-d), SA (away- d), IND (home - w), WI (away, winning). No lost series, and mostly wins. Its a very good record no other international team can match this last year. So much for being the worst team ever to leave AUS. If they are so bad, what are we to say of the teams AUS are beating (or at least drawing against), incl. the current WI team?

  • Dav1daKing on April 24, 2012, 4:54 GMT

    it's funny... most of the ppl that r defending Sammy simple do so because they feel pity for him.. as in. i understand that and all but i also know that if sammy was a better fielder, batsman, captain, tjis current team would e winning more, yes we are doing better, but i certainly not gonna cheer series series out for good attempts when i know we can be doing better. mind u, it's not only sammy that should be feeling the heat but (Barrath, Powell, Brathwaite and co as well. but sammy is the main culprit simply because he's the leader. Sammy needs to B a captain, then i personally will leave him alone!.

  • zdrgn on April 24, 2012, 4:50 GMT

    i think australia will come back strongly. do not forget that west indies have to bat in 4th innings. turn and bounce of pitch can suit beer and lyon.though i think australia really struggled to find their way in a good batting pitch. warner and watson should be much more positive. australian middle order should take positive initiatives in their batting.they should come down the track to counter attack the spin.

  • Mary_786 on April 24, 2012, 4:08 GMT

    Agree with Micky Panda, Cowan must be removed from the team, he is averaging close to 25 now and with a strike rate slower then any other batsman in the world, plus he is telling the media he feels good despite his failures for the last 2 series. Hopefully players such as Khawaja, Quiney and Marsh make good starts to the shield seasons and they can take that opener slot.

  • niz_hos on April 24, 2012, 4:07 GMT

    Ravi Rampaul is getting plaudits from all commentators - but Andre Mason keeps saying he should not have played. Please Mr. Mason tell me - do you really thing Fidel edwards is that good?

  • on April 24, 2012, 3:57 GMT

    How can anyone in his right mind say Sammy is one of the best thing that has happened to WI cricket? What folly. Lets get serious about it. Obviously Sammy's supporters favor him more than cricket, and are use to loosing so much that they have no taste for winning. What is Sammy doing in the slips? Isnt he tired of putting down sitters? Dont be surprise is Australia score close to 400. It is the usual thing for them to take out the top order cheaply and the allow the lower order to pile on the runs, and Sammy has no clue to stopping that happening. Poor sammy.

  • Buggsy on April 24, 2012, 3:41 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge - so Australia are average are they? Despite not having lost a single Test and ODI series in over a year? How many other teams can claim that? Answer: none.

  • PaddyRasta on April 24, 2012, 2:47 GMT

    @bobagorof I do not know where you've been, but the fact is that Sammy tends to drop the simplest of catches and persists with fielding in the slip position. And this is not just dropping Warner in this Test. This all said there are positive aspects to his captaincy (along with the tactical negatives). People just have to accept his shortcomings and get over it. The dream of a four-pronged bowling attack and Sammy is just not feasible. He is one of four bowlers and someone who can play hit or miss cricket with his batting some time - he is not a Test allrounder. His automatic selection does cause imbalance but the Windies just have to pick a team around him and make the best of the situation.

  • Mad_Hamish on April 24, 2012, 2:04 GMT

    For various people commenting on players, Katich is 36 and averaged 43.90 in first class cricket this summer, Cowan averaged 56.47. Katich hasn't done all that well in first class cricket since his injury and at this point there's not a lot to be gained by bringing him back, remember that he failed in India and then against England in Aus. Klinger made 1 100 from 19 innings and averaged 46. David Hussey is unconvincing as a potential test player based on his foot movement and handling of the short ball. On the Windies side Sammy has the second best career bowling average in the team (and was ahead of Roach until this series) and is capable of maintaining pressure by restricting the scoring rate considering the team actually seems to be pulling together for the first time since the early 90s with him as the captain I'd query dropping him. We'll also know a lot more about how good/bad the performance on day 1 has been after we see what happens on day 2 & 3.

  • Towelie on April 24, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    Lets stop Sammy bashing and be happy that this is Ponting's last test match.

    Have fun retirement PONTING, nice knowing ya, not gonna miss ya.

  • Meety on April 24, 2012, 1:50 GMT

    @bobagorof - I agree, although I have two recomendations for Sammy 1) Don't field in the slips, (field at mid off & talk to the bowlers, he has dropped a few in the slips), 2) Bat above Baugh, in the batting order!

  • gottalovetheraindance on April 24, 2012, 0:44 GMT

    For what reason did the inept selectors bring Fudadin into the squad? Apparently he has had a good first class season with the bat by West Indian standards and he can bowl a bit too. Why didnt Gibson drop either of Brathwaite or Powell and play him in the 11? How much worse could he be? @ the very least he could have helped with the bowling no? Curtly Ambrose stated earlier that the West Indies attack looked a bowler short. Thankfully the ineptitude of the Australian batting against spin 'which is at best is far from bamboozling' has positioned the game slightly in our favor.

  • on April 24, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    WOw, I thought that something atrocious had suddenly happened in Dominica on the first day of the match to merit the Sammy haters going at it again. I feel happy when I see all critics because I know Sammy is proving them wrong. Continue arguing your biased positions with yourself cause true WIndians have moved on.We prefer TEAM success than any individual achievements. True captains do. I remember M. Clarke, when asked about how the century against NZ compared to his others in a defeat said something to the effect that it was "useless" and that it could be put away in the garbage bins. At 212 for 7, the WI need to dismiss the tail cheaply tomorrow and try to see if they can bat solidly. As one radio commentator says: Sammy keep on doing what you doing.

  • on April 24, 2012, 0:29 GMT

    Is there an ICC rule which states the captain should be the best bowler/batsman/fielder? Enough of the Sammy hating. As said already, he brings much needed motivation to the team, which has helped with WI overall performance, in addition he is well ranked in the ICC ratings, go check it out. Face it Sammy people is not going anywhere now because he belongs in this WI team.

  • Chris_P on April 24, 2012, 0:14 GMT

    Fine work from the Windies. They are nothing like the rabble that has been posing as their recent test team for the past 8 years. Watching this series, I can understand why they put up such a good show in India. There is still plenty of cricket left in this match and scoring will not be easy, the bowlers will being enjoying themselves throughout the test. Sammy is leading this team well, they are responding to him & it shows. Sometimes, a lot can be said for someone who inspires a collective unit like this, something that Gayle, for all his undoubted talent could not really do. Let's wait for both sides to bat here before tossing out labels etc. And please, please, please, the current rankings are in no way indicative of current form. This West Indies side is showing a lot more fight than many other teams ranked above it, much more fight.

  • bobagorof on April 23, 2012, 23:42 GMT

    I have to laugh every time I read people calling for Sammy to be dropped. The guy is one of the best things that has happened to the West Indies team in decades. He's not a superstar, and he doesn't often put in match winning performances - but it's for that very reason that he is vital: he has to work hard and is constantly chipping in, filling a role. He doesn't just rely on an abundance of talent which never reaches its potential. He bowls tightly and has been extremely effective on home pitches. He's batted aggressively (would have worried the Aussies in the 2nd innings of the 2nd Test, before the rain) and he's caught very well (with one exception at slip this match) - remember the caught & bowled last match? He's brought a strong work ethic to a team that used to coast and underperform since Walsh retired. The team seems to be unified and behind him, pity that the 'supporters' aren't.

  • Swingit on April 23, 2012, 23:41 GMT

    @Sugars THANK you! The needless blasting of Sammy has to stop because the fact is EVERYONE but for some Windies fans who have a blind hatred for Sammy can see Sammy belongs. I mean listen to the Test players who are now playing against the Windies and the host of retired players in the booth, they all say the same thing: Windies is the best they have seen as a unit since the 90s and they can only see that team heading up. As much as Gayle definitely would add a tremendous amount of batting talent to the team (since openers are the biggest problem now), fact remains the team is better now than when Gayle was in. Most importantly Gayle really rather play IPL than test if it comes to a choice right now (not blaming him cuz money does talk but lets accept the reality folks). As for the other members that are bring called for well they are also in the IPL so maybe we will have them to call in after that fiesta is over. Oh and for the last time Chanders say he does not want captaincy.

  • maddy20 on April 23, 2012, 23:38 GMT

    Once again Australia's weakness against spin, particularly against off-break has been exposed. A number 8 ranked test team is able to strangle them to 212 /7 off 90 overs says it all!

  • toxic1007 on April 23, 2012, 23:36 GMT

    Sammy is going to have better bowling figures than most of the bowlers because he call the shot!!! and bowl excessive amount of over to justify his poor batting and a place on the team

  • landl47 on April 23, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    Must be an even game- supporters from both sides are on here complaining that their side didn't do better! Actually, this is another result wicket and 212-7 might turn out to be a useful score. Shillingford bowled pretty well, although I wonder why the photgraph attached to this article shows him throwing the ball in from the boundary rather than bowling? I can't believe how many WI supporters are critical of Sammy; he's a useful bowler, a good hitter in the lower middle order, a reasonable slip fielder (everyone grasses one now and then and he took a very good one off Hussey to make up) and he's got the side playing harder than they have in years. He'd be the last player I'd drop, because I don't see any other captains out there. Starc batted well again; I think he's a really good test prospect and he'll play a key role in Aus's side in the next few years.

  • RandyOZ on April 23, 2012, 23:33 GMT

    If an average spinner like Shillingford can get 4, imagine what Lyon is gonna do.

  • dunger.bob on April 23, 2012, 23:17 GMT

    This is all very encouraging for the WI. You have some fine young players and a team that is starting to believe in itself. If this group keeps developing at the same rate for another year or so, you guys should fear no team. Exciting times ahead for the West Indies I think. .. as for the Aussies ... another top order failure is not what we wanted but it IS what we we are used to. Once again its up to the bowlers to try to get us a decent score. ... this game isn't over yet but can we really expect to win games with no runs from the top 6. .. I can't see Ricky hanging on much longer and the question that bothers me is just who in the hell is gunna replace him? There are NO young batting guns in Aussie cricket at the moment. .. there's a sameness about them all and no-one really stands out as an obvious choice ..

  • aclarity on April 23, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    I am no Sammy supporter but his record in the last 5 test matches is better than Fidel Edwards. Edwards had 8 wickets in the last 5 tests. Which team other than WI will keep such a bowler? His recent record is horrible and his consistency is atrocious - a waste of pace. What is even worse is that the selectors do not realize that it is in the interest of Fidel not to play him in consecutive tests. When they do, he is finished for the series. He must be managed otherwise he is useless.

  • TheLight on April 23, 2012, 23:15 GMT

    Good going from the West Indies DESPITE having Sammy on the team who missed several chances and made some poor captaincy decisions.

    Can you imagine what would be the case if WI had a good captain and sammy's missed chances were taken? Aus would probably been all out for less than 200!! But we would never know, as long as we have to carry the burden of sammy in place of a genuine player.

    I like the guy, he is a gentleman and has heart, but is an incapable captain and should not be on this team, especially when you have others like miller et al knocking with both hands (and feet) on the door.

  • 44johter on April 23, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    Nobody is addressing an important question, if sammy goes who will motivate the team? Can some one answer please?

  • Meety on April 23, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    @Micky.Panda - Cowan is definately under pressure. "Clarke had 3 years of weak form..." - Dunno where you get that as the only truely weak year was 2005 when he averaged 28. In 2010 & 2011 he averaged 37 & 39, not great by ny means, but not weak. As for Klinger, you talk about Punter averaging just over 40 over the last 5 yrs, but Klinger's FC career is below 40, which historically would indicate that he won't achieve a Test ave of 40. @sugars - well said, although I struggle with the term "allrounder" for Sammy. To be considered for that, he needs to bump his ave to 25+ with the bat. His captaincy (with Gibson), has to be a major reason for the extra spine in the WIndies performances.

  • SirAlfredMansbridge on April 23, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    Russell I say is not much better than Sammy, just please Sammy dont put yourself in slips area..You take 2 catches but drop 3. Go on the deep square or fine leg. I was quite surprised also today that Assad Fudadin did not get a spot infront of Brathwaite. I dont understand the logic behind the WI selectors, that for sure.

  • 2.14istherunrate on April 23, 2012, 23:04 GMT

    That could have been Murali at Galle with the turn lift and general menace. Great day in a great series. Lovely catch from Sammy to get Hussey. Will Ponting get much further down the line? Is there anyone else. @randyOz- I could have told you that on any day since Sydney 2011. Finally it has dawned!!!

  • Al11 on April 23, 2012, 22:45 GMT

    The WI will always be unbalance in the bowling and batting department with Sammy in the team....at no time can they play a spinner, Edwards, Rampaul, Roach and Sammy....He , Sammy does nothing well...mediocre captain,bowler, batman and fielder....so WI are going to drop either Roach, Edwards or Rampaul in seamer friendly England to accomodiate Sammy!!!???? The team is improving only because the bowling department is much much better....

  • Nerk on April 23, 2012, 22:36 GMT

    Wow, slow run rate. A lot of Sammy hate on the page. Can sort of understand why, but people have to admit that while he has been on the scene the Windies have started performing better and more consistantly. With Gayle as captain it seemed like every man for themselves at time. Sammy is a level head at a time when the WICB and certain players are making it tough for the Windies to field their best eleven. So with what he has been supplied with, Sammy has done reasonably well, and when he does step down Windies cricket should be stronger for it all. @Front_Foot_Lunge - if you consider this series boring and uninteresting, why do you bother commenting on it at all. Go watch non-average teams like, er, everyone's having a hard time of it recently, that's what makes international cricket so exciting at the moment.

  • VivGilchrist on April 23, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    I think Aussie batsmen have become to tentative. Pushing and prodding at deliveries seems to be a good tactic for catching the edge on these wickets. They should take a leaf from the lower order and play some shots. Yes, they may get out but they may also score some runs and put some pressure on the WI bowlers. Cowans dismissal was a classic example of someone not wanting to hit the ball. If there was a 4th Test Forrest would be playing in his place.

  • PaddyRasta on April 23, 2012, 21:53 GMT

    @Randy_Wilson WI fell to number 8 in the rankings because they were beaten by Bangladesh in a home series. Player disputes meant that WICB fielded a B team. Curiously, Sammy was part of this B team so yes he was very near Test match. The move back from 8 to 7 was because the dispute ended and quality players came back into the team.

  • baseball_sucks on April 23, 2012, 21:41 GMT

    @Randy0Z Don't know about that, England played some pretty ordinary cricket against side likes Pakistan and WI as well. The fact their supporters are on here constantly running their mouths off is proof they're a little nervous.

  • PaddyRasta on April 23, 2012, 21:36 GMT

    @Ras10 - No man. Sammy is not a batsman. He has only one Test 50 for a reason and nothing will make him into a batsman. His role is a bowler and I have not seen a successful Test team that fields 5 specialist bowlers at the expense of a batsman. He will keep the true pace attack down to two quickies, spinner and himself. If Baugh could be relied upon to make e.g. 30 runs every time, you might have a case but he is not a batsman either and the line-up is fragile at times as it is.

  • sugars on April 23, 2012, 21:35 GMT

    once again ppl cricket is not an individual sports. it is a team sports. remember when the team was filled with the players you guys are constantly calling for and west indies toured sri lanka? lara scored over 600 runs in 3 matches including a double century and a century in the same much and west indies lost by and innings in two of the game and in xcess of 8 wickets in the other.for the first time in years west indies can boast of having a group of players and the leadership that has shown signs of getting west indies back to winning ways.take this series for examply sammy has outshined all the bowlers except roach and shillingford. guess we need to drop the other bowlers for not performing.sammy has been more consistent that most of the frontline batsmen. now is time for the small islanders so get with the program.they are the one that will revive west indies cricket.

  • on April 23, 2012, 21:29 GMT

    @Jonty King : About Cowan - Katich:

    Katich is better than Cowan. Cowan is better than Ponting. Ponting is better than Warner. But what matters most is: Clarke is better than Katich.

    So, no Katich, be happy with Cowan.

  • Dav1daKing on April 23, 2012, 20:48 GMT

    and the prospect of having Shillingford and Narine in tandem!!!! that's frightening!!! wi future looks bright man...

  • Mervo on April 23, 2012, 20:37 GMT

    Oh for the days when the WI had fast bowlers and fats wickets - now it is like India and a bowler with a Test average of 53 is the leading wicket taker .... sad stuff.

  • Rally_Windies on April 23, 2012, 20:34 GMT

    also, it seems to me that Sammy rewarded Rampaul for his good bowling by taking him off....

    Sammy seems to not like Rampaul personally ....that could explain why Sammy has butter fingers when Rampaul is bowling and No mater how well Rampaul bowls, he always gets dropped.....

    rampaul should have had figures of 2-30 ...

    Sammy probably feels threatened , as Rampaul's lower order batting is very good..... that Rampaul could be the #8 batsman and medium pacer on the team ..

  • Randy_Wilson on April 23, 2012, 20:20 GMT

    169-7 and call our Bowling Weak with sammy inside? I can remember without Sammy we All out team for 150 - 200 and get Bowled out before reaching those Target and again without Sammy.

  • Randy_Wilson on April 23, 2012, 20:15 GMT

    Sammy Must go? So Where was Sammy When West Indies Fell to Number 8 in the world. Sammy was NO WHERE Near Test Match. he Had Gayle, Sarwan, Chanderpaul, J Taylor, B LAra, Ramdin, Edwards, COllymore, Collins, etc yet West Indies drop from Number 3 in the worl to Number 8 in the world. And now with Smamy in the Team the Team move up from 8 to 7.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on April 23, 2012, 20:01 GMT

    Two middle-ranking teams play another average match. I see that one VERY average team has collapsed to a 3rd rate spinner - Shillingford is not test standard, neither are Australia as a whole.

  • sugars on April 23, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    well i see you guys haven't payed attention to the latest rankings released by the ICC on friday gone..of all the so called west indies bowlers you guys have above sammy only kemmar roach is rated about sammy..roach is ranked 18 and sammy 22..the next best west indies bolwer is edwards ranked at 27 ..of all the allrounders sammy is currently the highest ranked west indian allrounder at no 11 on the icc chart... just to add the rankings that i talk about are all for TEST CRICKET..you ppl seem to hold a grudge against sammy.get off the young mans back...i haven't seen a west indies team look so organised not since the 90s. gayle,sarwan,chanderpaul all had their stints as captain and the unity that is present now just wasnt there...the teams of previous years were filled with stars,lara,bravo,chanderpaul,gayle and the likes and still were consistely embarassed by the other test playing nations..they couldn't even play the whole 5 days.now you have a team that challenges it openents

  • on April 23, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    their is so much talent in the wi we have superman players like c Gayle , Dwayne bravo, sunil narine, Andre Russell, j Taylor, k pollard and even k cooper. and the board has done nothing in keepin these players, every other cricketing nations are playin their best but us west indians want to play friend and family

  • Dav1daKing on April 23, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    wi need to play 3 quickies with a spinner... thus, Rampaul, Roach and Fidel needs to play along with shillingford. not even mentioning Narine, caaz he's unavailable. and since MR. Sammy Must play, i think he should go open the batting then,.. so the team for the England tests could be... 1. Sammy, 2.K.Edwards, 3.Darren Bravo, 4. Chanderpaul, 5. Fudadin, 6.Deonarine, 7.Ramdin, 8.Rampaul, 9.Shillingford, 10. Roach, 11. Fidel Edwards. we would also have seven bowling options in there.

  • Rally_Windies on April 23, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    I CAN'T BELIEVE SAMMY IS STILL FIELDING IN SLIP...

    HOW MANY CHANCES DOES HE HAVE TO DROP BEFORE THEY PUT HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE...

    THIS IS GETTING DISGUSTING NOW ....

    YOUR OPENING BOWLER COULD HAVE HAD A DOUBLE STRIKE AND YOU COULD HAVE HAD BOTH OPENERS BACK WITH 10 RUNS ON THE BOARD....

    SAMMY LUCKY WARNER ONLY MADE 50....

  • fireballer on April 23, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Sammy and Baugh.should be replaced? Sammy is upsetting the balance of the WI. Baugh......after the last test....I'm surprised he's in the team.....i

  • cool2cool on April 23, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    This team used to score at 4 - 4.5 R/O against any opposition, any ground, any condition, any position.....

  • sundar_poco on April 23, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Darren Sammy is a major liability to this WI team however there is a better chance of hell freeing over before he gets the axe - WI cricket is more about politics than result....the status quo will remain until upper management changes are made meaning Hunt, Hillarie and Otis find something else to do

    Furthermore why call up Fudaddin at all? Explain how being called up to serve water helps his or Bishoo's confidence. Essentially, WI telling Bishoo he can't even server proper water???

  • on April 23, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    seems as though W.Indies will have a very long time on the field.. bowling does not look strong & penetrative and drop catches will hurt them too.. Agreed Andre Russel should have been playing Test Cricket in front of Sammy who is taking up valuable space in the team....& give back Chanderpaul the interim West Indies Captain status....i'm sure he can do much better than present so called skipper , because he COMMANDS a place in the team.

  • Micky.Panda on April 23, 2012, 16:16 GMT

    Isn't it time to shake up the batting lineup for Australia somewhat. Ed Cowan is averaging poorly even though got to play at home to a weak India attack. Clarke had 3 years of weak form but seems to have redeemed himself well and truly this year. Ponting has been averaging only a touch over 40 for the last 5 years. Surely he must be thinking of retirement soon. I would like to see some very experienced and in form for more than one year players selected from the domestic scene. e.g. Klinger, D Hussey, etc. Even Katich should never have been dropped. He was the best batsman in the side at the time, especially on foreign wickets. Australian team seems to be propped up by the bowers.

  • on April 23, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    Andre Russel is a better all-rounder than Sammy.Darren Sammy should leave Test Cricket and give WI a chance against top teams. He is a burden.

  • Dav1daKing on April 23, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Sammy has to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on April 23, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    does anyone really believe Cowan is better than Katich?

  • on April 23, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Cricket Lovely cricket!!!

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  • on April 23, 2012, 14:19 GMT

    Cricket Lovely cricket!!!

  • on April 23, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    does anyone really believe Cowan is better than Katich?

  • Dav1daKing on April 23, 2012, 14:39 GMT

    Sammy has to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on April 23, 2012, 15:08 GMT

    Andre Russel is a better all-rounder than Sammy.Darren Sammy should leave Test Cricket and give WI a chance against top teams. He is a burden.

  • Micky.Panda on April 23, 2012, 16:16 GMT

    Isn't it time to shake up the batting lineup for Australia somewhat. Ed Cowan is averaging poorly even though got to play at home to a weak India attack. Clarke had 3 years of weak form but seems to have redeemed himself well and truly this year. Ponting has been averaging only a touch over 40 for the last 5 years. Surely he must be thinking of retirement soon. I would like to see some very experienced and in form for more than one year players selected from the domestic scene. e.g. Klinger, D Hussey, etc. Even Katich should never have been dropped. He was the best batsman in the side at the time, especially on foreign wickets. Australian team seems to be propped up by the bowers.

  • on April 23, 2012, 16:42 GMT

    seems as though W.Indies will have a very long time on the field.. bowling does not look strong & penetrative and drop catches will hurt them too.. Agreed Andre Russel should have been playing Test Cricket in front of Sammy who is taking up valuable space in the team....& give back Chanderpaul the interim West Indies Captain status....i'm sure he can do much better than present so called skipper , because he COMMANDS a place in the team.

  • sundar_poco on April 23, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Darren Sammy is a major liability to this WI team however there is a better chance of hell freeing over before he gets the axe - WI cricket is more about politics than result....the status quo will remain until upper management changes are made meaning Hunt, Hillarie and Otis find something else to do

    Furthermore why call up Fudaddin at all? Explain how being called up to serve water helps his or Bishoo's confidence. Essentially, WI telling Bishoo he can't even server proper water???

  • cool2cool on April 23, 2012, 17:42 GMT

    This team used to score at 4 - 4.5 R/O against any opposition, any ground, any condition, any position.....

  • fireballer on April 23, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Sammy and Baugh.should be replaced? Sammy is upsetting the balance of the WI. Baugh......after the last test....I'm surprised he's in the team.....i

  • Rally_Windies on April 23, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    I CAN'T BELIEVE SAMMY IS STILL FIELDING IN SLIP...

    HOW MANY CHANCES DOES HE HAVE TO DROP BEFORE THEY PUT HIM SOMEWHERE ELSE...

    THIS IS GETTING DISGUSTING NOW ....

    YOUR OPENING BOWLER COULD HAVE HAD A DOUBLE STRIKE AND YOU COULD HAVE HAD BOTH OPENERS BACK WITH 10 RUNS ON THE BOARD....

    SAMMY LUCKY WARNER ONLY MADE 50....