West Indies v Bangladesh, 2nd ODI, St George's

Bangladesh must kick losing habit to save series

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August 21, 2014

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West Indies look to clinch ODI series against Bangladesh with a win in Grenada on Friday

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Friday, August 22, 2014
Start time 0900 local (1300 GMT)


Denesh Ramdin made 74 off 76 balls, West Indies v Bangladesh, 1st ODI, St George's, August 20, 2014
Kieron Pollard made headlines in the first ODI, but Denesh Ramdin's 74 off 76 balls was equally vital for West Indies © WICB Media Photo/Randy Brooks
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West Indies sweated for their 1-0 lead on Wednesday but it could prove a crucial advantage in a series likely to be affected by rain. While it is unlikely the hosts will be as slipshod in the second game, Bangladesh are still searching for a performance good enough to bring them a first win in 2014.

For the first hour of West Indies' chase of 218, Bangladesh were producing that performance. They tied down Chris Gayle, played on Kirk Edwards' patience and induced poor shots from Lendl Simmons and the brothers Bravo, leaving West Indies on 34 for 5 in 13.1 overs. Bangladesh were a wicket away from the tail but they did not get it for 145 runs. Denesh Ramdin was sensible, Kieron Pollard powerful, and they were dismissed only after they had put West Indies on verge of victory.

There is room for West Indies to improve with the ball too. Sunil Narine, though wicketless, troubled the batsmen but the seamers were loose with their lines and lengths on a pitch that was on the slower side.

Bangladesh have work to do. Their strike-rates at the top need improvement, and they need to find ideas when the match is on edge. They can take encouragement from the restraint Tamim Iqbal and Nasir Hossain showed while trying to build their innings, Anamul Haque's application during his century, and Al-Amin's incisiveness.

If Bangladesh don't get it together on Friday, their winless run in 2014 will cost them another series.

Form guide

(last five completed matches, most recent first)

West Indies WLLWW
Bangladesh LLLLL

In the spotlight

Kieron Pollard was Man of the Match in the first ODI but Denesh Ramdin's role was as important. He rotated strike when none of the batsmen above him had been willing to do so and enabled Pollard to bat with relatively less pressure. Ramdin was able to find the boundaries too, and his recent dependable form in the lower-middle order is a welcome support for West Indies.

It would be surprising if Mushfiqur Rahim let his batting from the first game affect his innings in the second. He has been Bangladesh's most prolific scorer this year, and for him to throw it away before getting a proper look-in was unusual.

Team news

Either Nikita Miller or Darren Sammy could play if conditions are slower than they were in the first ODI.

West Indies (probable): 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Kirk Edwards, 3 Darren Bravo, 4 Lendl Simmons, 5 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 6 Dwayne Bravo (capt), 7 Kieron Pollard, 8 Sunil Narine, 9 Jason Holder, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Kemar Roach.

Mominul Haque or Mithun Ali could replace Shamsur Rahman at No. 4, but the decision to bat Shamsur at that position was made from Dhaka. Shamsur will feel he deserves another chance at a role that is not his usual responsibility.

Bangladesh (probable): 1 Tamim Iqbal, 2 Anamul Haque, 3 Imrul Kayes, 4 Shamsur Rahman, 5 Mushfiqur Rahim (capt & wk), 6 Nasir Hossain, 7 Mahmudullah, 8 Sohag Gazi, 9 Mashrafe Mortaza, 10 Taskin Ahmed, 11 Al-Amin Hossain.

Pitch and conditions

The forecast is for some rain, so that combined with the fact that the venue is more chasing friendly, makes bowling first a popular option. The pitch for the first ODI was slow and most batsmen struggled for timing.

Stats and trivia

  • West Indies won an ODI after losing their first five wickets for less than 50 runs for the first time on Wednesday.
  • Al-Amin Hossain was the third bowler to take a four-wicket haul in the West Indies, after Tapash Baisya and Abdur Razzak.

Quotes

"We have to do the right things to get rid of these [West Indies] guys. We did it for a short period but we didn't do it for the rest of the game. We have to come up with better plans."
Bangladesh captain Mushfiqur Rahim.

"There is a lot of room for improvement, especially after the shaky start. It is good to see two of our top five batsmen can score the big runs, though. I expect a lot more with the newer ball."
West Indies captain Dwayne Bravo.

Mohammad Isam is ESPNcricinfo's Bangladesh correspondent. @isam84

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Posted by satspeare on (August 22, 2014, 14:00 GMT)

Gayle need s to be dropped . . . down the order to maybe four. Edwards needs to be dropped - done nothing to earn selection. Need to open with Smith & Simmons with Darren Bravo at 3 ( he is still one of out best available), 4 Gayle, 5 Pollard, 6 Ramdin, 7 Dwayne Bravo, 8 Holder, 9 Narine, 10 Rampaul and 11 Roach. With Smith and Simmons at the top, an added bowling option becomes available. Pollard MUST play as a batsman (my goodness - his fielding alone earns him a place - as does Russel's). Gayle still has lots to offer - don't just discard him like we did to Shiv. In our preparation for world cup, Samuels, Russel, Carlos B, Evan Lewis, and another keeper ( Pooran or Fletcher probably) MUST be included in the conversation.

Posted by Twinkie on (August 22, 2014, 12:49 GMT)

I would give Dwayne Smith a chance since he is no longer dragging every ball through the onside. He is playing through the offside sweetly these days. He will also improve the standard of fielding. I agree that Pollard has to be treated as a batsman and given a chance to develop his innings. Also, he seems a good captaincy prospect so it would be to our advantage to give him a real chance to improve and develop. Darren Bravo needs to get his act together or be rested until he does. Talking about technique - almost every batsman has flaws. Chris Gayle never moved his feet and he's made plenty. Good batsmen know their limitations and their strengths and learn to minimise mistakes and maximise opportunities.l Narine's mystery doesn't get as many wickets as you'd think because people make up their mind to play him out and attack the others. In short they seek to minimise their mistakes and maximise their opportunities. That's all!

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (August 22, 2014, 11:05 GMT)

@ Rally_Windies Don't be patronising I watch it. Smith has a poor average because 80% of his matches were when he played in the side as a bowling all-rounder coming in at 7/8 for last few overs of an innings not as an opener, right now he is clearly W.I best choice to open in short formats with Simmons. Blackwood does not strike me as a one day player the guy that deserves a shot in ODI instead of Bravo if they're not going to play Shv is Jonathan Carter or Leon Johnson.

Posted by MhabIburM on (August 22, 2014, 9:03 GMT)

Sashur should be benched cause he is not a plr on that position. Mominul is more better than him.

Posted by Cric_Sanity on (August 22, 2014, 8:52 GMT)

Shakib has always been the go to guy for BD when it came to breaking partnership. Let's be honest, BD was just one wicket away from the victory. Mushy was probably saving his strike bowlers' overs for PP. He thought the target was 281 NOT 218. I wonder if Mushy ever analyzed the reason why and how SL won a game last year after collapsing to 67/8 in 21 overs.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-sri-lanka-2013-14/content/story/719855.html

Posted by wapuser on (August 22, 2014, 7:32 GMT)

Chris gayle should bat in his own agressive style..... The more defensive playing destroy his carrier..... And he must skip balls swinging around off side.

Posted by pavan_and on (August 22, 2014, 6:37 GMT)

RAMDIN should be promoted to play as one-down. He has improved a lot in the recent times. Darren bravo's inclusion in the team is not justified. He plays one good innings in 10-20 matches. Maybe its time to give some other players a chance.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (August 22, 2014, 5:16 GMT)

Brutal Analyst ...

please watch more cricket ...... Charles as a batsman (not a keeper/batsman) has a healthier ODI average than Smith .... Blackwood has every right to play from his 1st class and regional performances ...

not that Pollard does not also have a right from his regional performance ...

please watch more cricket sir...

Pollard did not bat beautifully just yesterday .. that innings was not even close to one of his best performances ...

it was just the best YOU SAW ....

Pollard's batting yesterday was pretty NORMAL compared to most of his other 50's

Posted by Obaidur_nawabganj on (August 22, 2014, 4:53 GMT)

BD should bring Mominul back in place of Shamsur and Nasir should allow to bat at 3 or 4.

All the hail to Anamul, Taskin and Al-Amin.

Posted by rayinto on (August 22, 2014, 4:52 GMT)

Dwane Smith for Kirk Edwards! That's it!

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 4:16 GMT)

Drop both gayle and edwards

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 3:44 GMT)

Abdur Razzak must play, if his form has improved. The choice here is between Sohag's batting and Razzak's wicket taking abilities. Bangladesh should have brought at least another left-armer to fill Shakib's place.

Part timers like Nasir and Shamsur should not have any role to play in the main bowling plan. It would be to soon to drop any pacer, but if BD wants to play Taskin- he has to take the new ball and settle down slowly. Bringing him on while the opposition batsmen have settled down will be a bad idea.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 3:26 GMT)

pollard should bat higher up the order, lendel simmons or darren bravo should open with chris gayle or draft evan lewis into the team

Posted by Sexysteven on (August 22, 2014, 3:14 GMT)

Windies should win this series but that shouldn't hide the major issues in windies cricket they ain't even convincing against the bangas that's so sad to see windies this bad and unfortunately can't see them getting any better for along no matter who is the coach the situation is so serious that there are major concerns about gayles form and how much cricket there is left in his broken down body he prob needs a year off to get his body right and then when he comes back try to get 3or4 more years out of him cos he is vital if the windies want to get some half decent results or he has to retire from one form of the game cos his body sure can't handle all the cricket he is playing agood example of this is chanderpaul he used to get injured a lot but since he only plays tests these day he doesn't get injured as much and it has prolonged his career longer then it would of if he was still playing all 3formats so they have to manage gayle better if they want to get the best out of him

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 2:30 GMT)

Edwards batting was the worst I've ever seen .....no technique.

Posted by   on (August 22, 2014, 1:00 GMT)

"Pollard has the best technique" is the most ridiculous thing I ever heard.

Posted by Ain_EL_Sabet on (August 22, 2014, 0:35 GMT)

Give captaincy to Mashrafe and shamsur should be replaced by Mithun ali. Mahmudulla should be replaced by a specialist baller. Even Nasir can be replaced by momenul.

Posted by KFRITZ on (August 22, 2014, 0:24 GMT)

BD needs to put up a better score ..217 is below par score . this was evident when windies scored in less than 40 overs...that is where the game was lost..the situation would have been different if windies were chasing 270-280 which i think is the par score..they need to learn to score fast.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 22:54 GMT)

Mominul is not getting much playing time ever since the new BD coach has been appointed. This is not a good sign for BD as Mominul has performed well in Test & ODI. BD needs all the performer to play regularly rather than experience players who perform rarely.

Also, BCB must need to relieve Mushy from captaincy. Without saying much, this guy is just not good enough to lead the team. BCB also should let go current chief selector and appoint Bashar who retired recently but has good kowledge about the current squads and how to manage the game.

Posted by wapuser on (August 21, 2014, 22:49 GMT)

I can't understand how fans want to see Blackwood in this team, after he had a poor CPL. The only players who deserve a chance into any 50 overs or T20 team us Evin Lewis from T&T and Dwayne Smith.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (August 21, 2014, 21:50 GMT)

It's time for WI to think about what they want to do with Pollard. It's time to treat him as a batsman. Not an all-rounder that bats at 7, that only plays the shorter formats. He's shown he can build important innings, but he needs time. He should be batting at 5. They can use Sammy/Russell/Bravo for the late order thrashing. I can see him developing into a Clive Lloyd style of player if given the chance. He has to play in the upcoming Test series at 6 or else they will be letting a potential leader wither on the vine.

Posted by aclarity on (August 21, 2014, 21:14 GMT)

Whoever thinks Charles is a batsman doesn't know anything about cricket plain and simple. Brathwaite is okay but his form of late is not good. Carter is a very ordinary player. Lewis and Narine are the poker faced cricketers of WI. That speaks to great temperament. Bonner is a class batsman and a great fielder. Russell, Gabriel, Beaton and Cottereal should all be given consideration over Miller, Sammy and Kirk Edwards. Pollard should be made captain of the ODI and T20 teams now. DJ Bravo doesn't cut it and his performance in the CPL clearly indicated that he was the 2nd worst captain. It is time to rank and integrate the young players into the WI team.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 20:44 GMT)

Don"t blame the captaincy for the defeat, it was poor team effort and lack of proffesionalism to be blamed. This team has a lot to learn.

Posted by   on (August 21, 2014, 20:28 GMT)

Ramim is not the right captain for bd team get rid off him and i think Mominul orAnamul bijoy would do the job better then him.

Posted by TheRisingTeam on (August 21, 2014, 20:03 GMT)

BD fans need to wake up. Its Rahim why we are on a losing streak. Rubbish captaincy and a give in attitude once the opposition is set. And also why don't we give respect to the opposition? no wonder no team seems to like us and credit should be given to Ramdin and Pollard for coming back down from 34/5 and winning it. West Indies will win this easily 3-0 and the T20 and Test series. In fact I hope West Indies clean-sweeps all these games so Rahim can be removed as captain.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (August 21, 2014, 19:53 GMT)

@Rally_Windies Pollard wasn't in the top 5 bro . . . but if you want to talk about Pollard then no he doesn't have a better technique than Holder either quite evidently. Dunno why you're going on about slog though I haven't even mentioned Pollard and he batted beautifully yesterday possibly his most impressive knock for W.I aside form the needless throwing away of his wicket at the end going for a 6 over boundary fielder when it was less than 3 an over. Blackwood and Charles are not in any running to play the likes of Dwayne Smith / Powell or Evn Lewis as alternate opener option and Jonathan Carter / Chanderpaul for Darren Bravo are the options.

Posted by Obaidur_nawabganj on (August 21, 2014, 19:39 GMT)

If captain becomes able to lead the team with his techniques then no matter it is batting or bowling we will win the game. Mushy should be replaced by someone like Anamul or Nasir.

hope it will the winning match to break the losing streak.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (August 21, 2014, 19:25 GMT)

Brutal Analyst ..

Jason Holder does not have better technique than Pollard ...

Pollard does not SLOG .. he plays genuine cricket shots and his height and power (and sometimes good timing) just carry the ball further than your typical stroke makers ...

Pollard muscles the ball when he is not set ... but once set, he times the ball sweetly ....

He has the best technique of all the WI batsmen ...

Posted by Rally_Windies on (August 21, 2014, 19:18 GMT)

Kirk Edwards and Darren Bravo are taking up space on the team ...

I would prefer to see Jermain Blackwood and Johnson Charles ...

Posted by Sachit1979 on (August 21, 2014, 17:05 GMT)

I think Razzak would be more penetrative than Sohag Gazi. Windies batsmen practice day and night against Sunil Narine thus well accustomed to off spin but Razzak with his stock deliveries could really challenge them.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (August 21, 2014, 16:51 GMT)

" Bangladesh were a wicket away from the tail" I dunno about that, I personally think Jason Holder is a more competent batsman than any of the top 5 well for sure as far as technique is concerned he has a beautiful technique. I'm genuinely far more excited with his batting than his bowling a really great all-round prospect. I'd like to see his fellow Bajan Carlos Brathwaite in the W.I side too an identical player in stature who also offers great all-round promise but with slight more spice with the ball. If nto for ODis the Tests these 2 coudl really cause allot of problems for the short Bangladehsi batsman and it would be interesting to see how he goes.

Posted by Warm_Coffee on (August 21, 2014, 16:29 GMT)

Bangladesh will not win until they get their selections 100% spot on and Rahim removed as captain I'm sorry to say. Rahim is an improved player but his captaincy skills are very poor and clearly the main reason Bangladesh have had a disastrous run in ODIs this year. Here's the proof:

This year we had Sri Lanka at 67/8, Afghanistan 90/5, Sri Lanka 75/5 and West Indies 34/5 and despite those dominant positions from Bangladesh, they have still LOST!!!???

Any team above us in ranking would've won these games at least 80% from those situations but Bangladesh seem to cannot.

These figures are no coincidence and clearly proves the ineffective captaincy skills of Rahim and at this rate not only we will lose the remaining 2 games on this tour but losses against Zimbabwe, Afghanistan and Scotland are looming.

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