West Indies v India, only Twenty20, Trinidad

Sammy disappointed with slow pitch

Sriram Veera at Port of Spain

June 4, 2011

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Darren Sammy finished with a four-for, West Indies v India, Only Twenty20, Port of Spain, June 4, 2011
Darren Sammy's four-for gave West Indies early control, but they let India recover too easily © Associated Press
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Darren Sammy, the West Indies captain, was unhappy with the nature of the slow, turning Port of Spain track prepared for the one-off Twenty20 against India, and said such pitches would play into the visitors' hands.

"We had the same experience against Pakistan," Sammy said after his side's 16-run defeat. "Even then the pitches supported them. It's a home series but it feels like … the pitches are out of our control. We can only ask what we want but it's up to the groundsman to prepare it."

During the 2010 World T20 West Indies defeated India in Barbados on a bouncy track. They used the short ball well to pin India back then, and Sammy said that they had asked for similar strips for this series as well. "We have requested for bouncy pitches, but as I said we don't prepare the pitches."

Today, though, it wasn't the pitch that defeated them. They had India wobbling at 56 for 4 from 8.4 overs but loosened their grip. It's a trait that West Indies have been guilty of in the recent past as they have rarely controlled games through to the conclusion, and it came back to haunt them again today.

"We stuck at it to start with but I would say we let them get 20 runs too many and in the end that made the difference in the match," Sammy said. "We did some good things today but as we reflect on the match we would all agree that we let a few situations get away from us.

"We have to work harder at winning those crucial situations, which can turn a match, especially in the shortest version of the game. It was a good decision to field first after winning the toss, but we didn't restrict them to the total we wanted."

Their slow batting hurt them further and it's bound to get tougher if they continue playing on these sluggish tracks. Their innings included fifty dot balls and it was a trend Sammy said they will have to change if they are to be more competitive. He admitted that the problem stemmed from their struggles against spin, and said they were trying to improve.

"Desmond Haynes has been working hard with the batsmen," Sammy said. "They are slowly getting better at it and we hope they will translate that hard work in the nets out in the middle. It's about confidence and having belief in yourself against spin. You have to use your feet against the spinners. They are working hard."

Sammy praised the batting efforts efforts of Christopher Barnwell and Danza Hyatt, whose unbeaten sixth-wicket 50-run partnership, gave the hosts a glimmer of hope towards the end of their chase.

"It was great to see how Barnwell played and tried his best to keep us in the hunt. He got some great help from Hyatt there at the end. It was nice to see the guys showing the confidence and self-belief required."

He was optimistic about the ODI series that starts on Monday. "Our bowling attack is looking good and the 50-over format gives more time to the batsmen. We won our last two ODIs and we shall carry that momentum forward.

Sammy said the return of Kieron Pollard, Ramnaresh Sarwan and Dwayne Bravo to the one-day squad will aid in West Indies' revival. "It's nice to have those three experienced players back in our side. We have a bit of momentum with our one-day side after that series against Pakistan, so hopefully we can exploit that."

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 18:02 GMT)

manoj tiwary should be drafted into the side at any cost

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 18:00 GMT)

pollard shpuld no way b included for d odi series........a player whoo lacks temperament n technique......an insult to the word "all rounder"......understably hes that explosive kind of batsman but hes no yusuf pathan who can have some consistency in his game............pollards bowling is highly mediocre.....ipl 2011 jz shows he flopped as a t20 batsman.....dunno y hes included in d odi series den....

Posted by SatishT2105 on (June 5, 2011, 18:00 GMT)

Sammy's problems with the pitches will further be compounded if he looks closely at the itinerary. They next play India in the ODIs at Port of Spain, Trinidad, India's favourite West Indian Venue. Otherwise, so to speak, India's Caribean record is pathetic, but their record in Trinidad is better comparatively.

If Sammy has a problem with the Itinerary and the nature of the pitches, I believe he should call Ernest Hillarie (WICB President), rather than vent it out with the media. Knowing the West Indies Board's rudimentary stance towards player's interviews they might gag Sammy from appearing in front of the media.

Posted by lyl67 on (June 5, 2011, 14:44 GMT)

Sammy is bowling well and deserves to be in the team. Is he a Captain? Oh no, he can help the future captain motivate the players that should be his role when selected. If the management are so adecshort sighted and cannot see that they killing the game in the carribean it would not be long before they lose their test status. The WIPA and WICA both should look at what has been happening for more than a decade ang do the right thing. RESIGN!!!

Posted by Mitsui on (June 5, 2011, 12:46 GMT)

Gosh WI make use of 'home advantage' Good news for them is that Sammy the much mocked/scrutinized captain of WI once again proved his metal. He showed why he should be in the playing 11 as he was the best bowler for WI. Don't back down WI, the Indian win IMO was a fluke. My money is on WI to win the ODI series 4-1 and win the test series 1-0. Go West Indies!!!

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 12:39 GMT)

@mkshark: then dont forget your words when the whites and the windies tour here and get ready for the dust bowls..no need to make any excuses...

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 12:11 GMT)

Sammy can only get wickets on unpredictable wickets. He shouldnt be complaining. Sure Pollard and Bravo will strengthen the team, but if you have a captain as bad as Sammy, you are never going to win anything against the No.1 team in the world. Sammy should step aside and make room for far better players.

Posted by Vipin.Bajaj on (June 5, 2011, 11:53 GMT)

I think the bouncy tracks will give confidence to the Indian bowling attack, India is right at the top after winning the world cup, they can hardly put a foot wrong, it willl be a good challange for the West Indies batters rather. However, the inclusion of the experienced players will be an added advantage.

Posted by lyl67 on (June 5, 2011, 10:47 GMT)

As far as i am concerned W.I.have no idea of how to use the referral system and must learn to adapt themselves to the various forms of cricket played currently. D

Posted by mkshark on (June 5, 2011, 10:32 GMT)

well in sammy's defence,this isn't just a dumb excuse but a valid point;every country should have a distinct home advantage,play on pitches which suit them instead of the opposition or else what is the difference between home and away contest;like when u tour england,u expect swinging conditions and juicy wickets;australia will always serve hard and fast tracks,so will saf;and like wise you face turning tracks in the subcontinent.Its the challenge of facing a condition and atmosphere alien to you that creates interest and makes the victories more memorable.everybody still goes back to 1971 when we discuss ind vs wi and not 2006,aus 2004 was special,so was england 1971,1986,2007 because those were hard fought victories in difficult conditions;now i once read a former WI legend saying that you have to be blind nowadays to miss a delivery in carribean;from that to a pitch turning square in the 10th over is a sea change and u can't expect sammy and company to perform in such condition!!

Posted by maddy20 on (June 5, 2011, 7:52 GMT)

@Stos Sarwan? You are kidding right? The man scored 24 of 67 in a worldcup quarterfinal! His inclusion will make things a lot easier for India.

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 7:43 GMT)

now even windies think that indian batsman can be bounced out..this was a thing of the past..now the domestic circuit is played more on the bouncy tracks, not the spin friendly trakcs..now days, in domestic circuit here, the zonal teams struggle to reach 200..and last year, it was the IPL's hectic schedule due to which indian cricket team lost in T-20...thats it..in my opinion, one days might be 5-0 or 4-1 in favor of india

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 6:46 GMT)

irrespective of what pitches r prepared 4 Sammy n Co. they r going 2 b whitewashed by this severely depleted Indian side .. he doesnt better pitches, he needs better players .. this side shud b stripped of test status ..

Posted by ramgoat on (June 5, 2011, 6:07 GMT)

Darren Sammy is making the same comments over and over when wi lost a match

Posted by Stos on (June 5, 2011, 6:02 GMT)

@maddy20: This wasn't a cricket match, though. I don't have any problems with making excuses if they were to lose to this India B team at football, so I don't see why there's any problem with them doing so after a T20 game. In any case, when it comes to Sarwan, Pollard and Dwayne Bravo, I think that Sarwan is the only one who it makes much sense to bring into the side; Bravo could be useful if somebody is injured, for example, while Pollard should be sent to a T20 league somewhere.

Posted by ATIMAYANK on (June 5, 2011, 5:43 GMT)

indiaforcup

I disagree with you on second and third points. Ashwin is indeed an excellent choice.. but when playing in India only. This is west Indies man. Mishra should get a nod over Ashwin.

2) Murali Vijay has already been given so many chances in international cricket. He has failed mostly. We need Tiwary in now. He is a solid player for the ODI's.

Posted by indianzen on (June 5, 2011, 5:29 GMT)

T20 are meant to be expensive for the bowlers... vijay should replace dhawan and tiwary should be pulled in...

Posted by maddy20 on (June 5, 2011, 5:27 GMT)

Huh! Making excuses after losing to India B. If this the example that Sammy wants to set for the team, one can only feel bad for WI cricket! As for Fast Bouncy wickets well in ODIs it won't matter coz the batsman will just duck that one ball. A strategy they succesfully employed against Australia which had three bowlers bowling at 150+ consistently and make no mistake there are few players in India who can pull and hook the shortball like Badrinath and Yusuf Pathan. India B will wrap up the ODI series in style!

Posted by VivGilchrist on (June 5, 2011, 3:58 GMT)

PROBLEM was Samuels, Bravo, and Fletcher batted the Windies out of the game. There were still 5 wickets in hand and quite simply Barnwell and Hyatt didn't have enough time because the 3 players mentioned batted too slow. GAME LOST.

Posted by Lamsalsandesh on (June 5, 2011, 3:24 GMT)

i am great fan of westindies cricket team. I don't want to recommend any player for the team but i want to say that change the attitude of players with the kind of game they are playing. Its a 20-20 you means every ball counts from start to end. But i am much more disappointed when i saw a maiden over for india on first over. also whats the use of last 4 bats man, we should have gone for each ball.If we would have scored 16 run in 1 and half over the game would have been won. i want the team to play more the way the match is designed. Good luck for next odi.

Posted by skidmarks on (June 5, 2011, 2:47 GMT)

fast bouncy pitches are great for the game in general, and beating india

Posted by   on (June 5, 2011, 2:24 GMT)

Why are Dhawan and Patel opening the batting let alone in the team?? the whole point of playing a series where your best players are out is to give the players who don't get much of chance to play a bit more. I.e. yusuf pathan should be gettting a chance to open the batting not giving your 5th choice opener a better chance to bat an innings than a guy who is regularly in the first X1

Posted by KAIRAVA on (June 5, 2011, 1:25 GMT)

Why is there a talk of Vijay replacing Dhawan for the 1st ODI when Vijay is not present in the squad of 15 for the ODI series vs WI ? Vijay has only been selected to open in the test series as a replacement to Sehwag. Its only fair to give Dhawan a couple of more chances before a decision can be made to replace him with Tiwary or any other player. Dhawan has a LIST A average of 43.82 (which is only next to Kohli and above Raina, Rohit & Badrinath) and his 95 from 57 balls in the IPL 4 match against Punjab on a "green-tinged" pitch against the likes of Praveen Kumar, Ryan Harris, Ryan McLaren & Piyush Chawla, is still fresh in our minds. I would go with the same XI for the next match unless a green pitch is made & if that is the case I would replace Ashwin with Ishant.

Posted by   on (June 4, 2011, 22:58 GMT)

We r at home without a home advantage, but that wasn't why we lost.We didn't appeal a stumping, a wicket with a no ball, a simple return catch was put down, wayward bowling by Russell.India got 20 more runs than they deserved. This Indian squad is very beatable. WI need to keep focus. With the exception of the openers, the batting was fair.Better luck next time.

Posted by indiaforcup on (June 4, 2011, 22:36 GMT)

@SangramSinghRana: Ill advice at its best. 1) I do not think there are genuine fast bowlers available in India. Perhaps we can buy Dale Steyn from SA. Moreover if the pitches are gonna be bouncy then Ishant Sharma with his height can be a handful. 2) Ashwin has proved himself in every opportunity provided to him. IPL, Champions league, world cup.. So I don think based on todays performance he should be replaced. 3)If at all anyone should replace Dhawan its gotta be Murali Vijay, as he is a genuine opener. Tiwari is a middle order batsman and he will get his due share of chances in the series. However picking him for the middle order and asking Rohit sharma to open would be a disaster.

The final team could be something like this, M.Vijay, Parthiv Patel, Virat Kohli, S.Badrinath, Rohit Sharma,Suresh Raina, Yusuf Pathan, Harbhajan Singh, R Ashwin/Ishant Sharma, Munaf Patel & Praveen Kumar

Based on the pitch either one of Ashwin or Ishant could be picked in the 11.

Posted by c.arun87 on (June 4, 2011, 22:03 GMT)

Rohit has not done well as an opener !! and replacing ashwin is ridiculous as he s been such a strike bowler and only one over of his was expensive today. I second replacing dhawan. Vijay as an opener should be given a chance before he is replaced by tiwary.

Posted by   on (June 4, 2011, 21:58 GMT)

heh heh, no complaints sammy boy. just like with pakistan majority of the pitch in present day caribbean have a good response to spin.. srry man, u and the boys will have to put the hard work in and work on ur sweeps and chipping dwn the wicket to counter spin

Posted by SangramSinghRana on (June 4, 2011, 21:32 GMT)

For ODI, I will suggest three changes in the Indian side - (1) Replace Munaf Patel with Ishant Sharma, to bring in some genuine pace, as the ODI pitches are going to be bouncy as requested by WI skipper. (2) Replace Ashwin with Amit Mishra. Ashwin was expensive today. Mishra is very economical and turns the ball more. (3) Replace Dhawan with Tiwari. Tiwari should play at number 6 and Rohit should open the batting with Parthiv Patel.

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