West Indies v India, 2nd ODI, Trinidad June 9, 2011

Sammy takes heart from 'positive intent'

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There are two ways to look at this West Indies performance. The first is with hope: after all this was the first display of intent after two comatose performances. At 175 for 2, a total of 270 looked a possibility. The second is to look at it with a touch of weariness over yet another collapse. Hope or a sinking deja vu? Take your pick.

The start oozed promise.Lendl Simmons is a batsman who has the nous, and the guts, to seize the little moments. Sometimes he gets ahead of himself; the adrenalin kicks in as it did in the previous game. However, he displayed a more controlled aggression today. It was in the second over of Amit Mishra that he set the tone. Until then he had confidently taken on the seamers but it was always going to be a battle between West Indies' batsmen and India's spinners. Mishra beat him couple of times in his first over and tossed it up on a length at the start of the second. The West Indies camp has been talking about sweeping and using their feet to the spinners for a while now but has rarely walked the talk. Simmons swept Mishra to the boundary and the crowd cheered. A few overs later, he went down on his knee to lift Harbhajan Singh over wide midwicket boundary for a six. The crowd danced. He then crashed Yusuf Pathan over long-on. Rum flowed in the stands. The sun was out.

In the dressing room Darren Sammy, as he later revealed, moved towards Marlon Samuels and reminded him of the 108 Samuels had scored against India in India. Samuels told him that it was at the top of his mind. The mood was upbeat in the camp. In the middle, Harbhajan was leaking runs and so was Yusuf. Only Amit Mishra was bowling decently. When Samuels entered, he added to India's woes. He rotated the strike, something he was guilty of not doing well in the recent games. His captain has always supported him, saying that he was just rusty. In the 35th over Samuels leaned forward to cream Mishra to cover boundary. In the next, he pulled and lofted Yusuf for a four and a six.

It looked a day of hope but the wheels soon came off. Both Simmons and Samuels fell, stumped. It's easy to put it down to adrenalin but that would be too convenient. Perhaps, Simmons thought he was set and it was time for some action but he was done in by a ball that was pushed well down the leg side. Should Samuels have shown more discretion in the same over that he had hit two boundaries? Perhaps, he thought the moment was hot to lay into Yusuf, who is not one of the frontline bowlers. He tried but was done in by a good ball from Yusuf. It was a lot slower, wider and went almost straight.

It was the beginning of the end. And made you look at the day again: with that familiar sense of weariness at West Indian collapses. Here they go again. "We got ourselves into good position while we were batting; at least we showed intent as we said in team meeting," Sammy said later.

So should one be happy or sad? "You can't be happy when you lost. It's more like the guys showed improvement. Unless the first game where there was lack of intent, it was very different. Right from the top. They showed positive intent. When you show such intent runs come easily. Samuels looks very good after two years. Sarwan also is showing consistency. I have always told Sars [Ramnaresh Sarwan] that he was once compared to Michael Bevan; he is the finisher for us. I still have that belief in him. The more confident he gets, the better it will be for us." The bowling, which has stood strong in the last few months, fell through today. "We had the belief especially after the way we bowled on Monday, trying to defend 214," Sammy said. "It was crucial to get early wickets but we couldn't manage to apply the pressure, consistently and long enough. Kohli gave a chance to me at slip but I missed. That could have been a crucial turning point." For a change, Devendra Bishoo didn't sparkle. Sammy delayed the introduction of spin and perhaps that was a mistake. He, though, didn't agree when a journalist brought it up. "That's just [your] impression. Bishoo is still young and new to international cricket. [The] Indians played spin better than us. Bishoo has played every game [but] obviously he is still young at this level. It's okay that he had a slight off day. I won't judge him because [of that]. There is nothing to worry about. Martin is just playing his fourth ODI."

Sammy was also asked about the possibility of resting Bishoo and not "over-exposing" him. His answer seemed to suggest that he agreed with the questioner. "Bishoo is quite young. Because he has done well, there is tendency to play him every game. Maybe his body is not really used to this type of work load. That's something the selectors will have to think about. Hopefully they will take that in consideration."

He ended on a hopeful note about the state of the pitch for the third ODI. "Antigua has more pace bounce and there was not much spin when we played last there. Hopefully they will prepare something that will suit us and it will feel like home series for us."

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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  • reghuh on June 11, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    i think WI will have to play qualifiers if they ought to play WC 2015

  • everfaithful77 on June 11, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    The WEST INDIES TEAM SELECTORS(including Coach GIBSON & SAMMY) keep making strange, irrational decisions and have to share the BLAME for the FAILURES of the West Indies team just as the players themselves. The decision to leave out SANTOKI from the final 11 in the T20. Santoki was among the best bowlers in the last Caribbean T20 and should have played ahead of Russel who was woeful against Pakistan and failed again vs India . Strangely he was also selected but left out from final team vs Pakistan. If you look at the Indian TEAM COMPOSITION for the ODIs: 6 batsmen incl a wick-keeper batsman, 1 spec allrounder and 4 genuine bowlers most of whom can bat which gives their batting tremendous depth and still allows strong bowling attack. COMPARE that to WI team in last ODI: 4 batsmen,1 keeper, 3 allrnders (whose batting av is modest at best) and 3 genuine bowlers. How on EARTH does the WI selectors expect to BEAT INDIA when the teams don't even match up on paper? In reality it's worse.

  • lok4cric on June 10, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    the ideal windies xi--- gayle,simmons,darren bravo(wk),sarwan,samuels,pollard,dwayne bravo,sammy,bishoo,taylor,rampaul,roach.

    subs- edwards,barath,benn,chanders.

    without this line up windies will have no chance to even defeat ireland

  • reghuh on June 10, 2011, 1:17 GMT

    gayle not in the squad for 3rd odi also....wi is mad..... lets not play virat,raina,rohit sharma,yusuf pathan and send some club players .......to replace these ppl....then also our team will win comprehensively

  • CandidIndian on June 10, 2011, 0:18 GMT

    Indian team is without Dhoni ,Sachin Yuvi, Zak ,Sehwag and Gambhir, still Sammy is happy that they are giving some sort of competition to Indian team shows the condition of WI team.He should realize that this was their best chance to win a series against India with this B team.Reality is that Indians struggled in first match while chasing, but in second they just crushed WI totally and showed no signs of wobbling at any stage,not good signs for WI for coming matches too.India will win the series easily.

  • AvidCricFan on June 9, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    While a lot is written about Sammy, WI and Kohli, Parthiv's performance has gone unnoticed. He is the next best choice to Dhoni for a WC allrounder, much better than Karthik, Rayudu and offcourse Saha.

  • hazeltine on June 9, 2011, 22:18 GMT

    WIndies will never move on unless there is serious analysis of their play. In the 2nd one dayer, Samuels, Simmons, Sarwan , Bravo and Baugh threw their wickets away with utterly irresponsible strokes during the powerplay. What did Sammy or Gibson have to say about it? ANSWER, NOTHING. Neithe, more interestingly,did I hear any real analysis from the commentators Cozier, Dujon, or Bishop about how badly we batted or bowled. These commentators are going to have to tell things the way they are and stop fudging around the issues. It is clear that some of the players have no respect for Sammy, Gibson or Haynes, the Board or the team and should be nowhere near the team but until we hear these commentators COME OUT AND STATE THAT THIS IS SO, WINDIES CRICKET WILL NEVER MOVE ON

  • on June 9, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    IF WI WANT GOOD GAME SO THEY MUST PLAY WITH GYALE AND DARREN BRAVO. THEN WE SEE GOOD GAME BUT I LOVE INDIA ........

  • reghuh on June 9, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    i seriosly think if there is a qualifier round for the next world cup, WI team should go through that......by the current standards, they are worser than Bangladesh....

  • reghuh on June 9, 2011, 18:18 GMT

    If possible, the club players all over India can be sent to WI for a series before they are selected for state teams for Ranji Trophy....lols.... i do not know when the wi board sets aside its ego and calls gayle

  • reghuh on June 11, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    i think WI will have to play qualifiers if they ought to play WC 2015

  • everfaithful77 on June 11, 2011, 5:39 GMT

    The WEST INDIES TEAM SELECTORS(including Coach GIBSON & SAMMY) keep making strange, irrational decisions and have to share the BLAME for the FAILURES of the West Indies team just as the players themselves. The decision to leave out SANTOKI from the final 11 in the T20. Santoki was among the best bowlers in the last Caribbean T20 and should have played ahead of Russel who was woeful against Pakistan and failed again vs India . Strangely he was also selected but left out from final team vs Pakistan. If you look at the Indian TEAM COMPOSITION for the ODIs: 6 batsmen incl a wick-keeper batsman, 1 spec allrounder and 4 genuine bowlers most of whom can bat which gives their batting tremendous depth and still allows strong bowling attack. COMPARE that to WI team in last ODI: 4 batsmen,1 keeper, 3 allrnders (whose batting av is modest at best) and 3 genuine bowlers. How on EARTH does the WI selectors expect to BEAT INDIA when the teams don't even match up on paper? In reality it's worse.

  • lok4cric on June 10, 2011, 6:38 GMT

    the ideal windies xi--- gayle,simmons,darren bravo(wk),sarwan,samuels,pollard,dwayne bravo,sammy,bishoo,taylor,rampaul,roach.

    subs- edwards,barath,benn,chanders.

    without this line up windies will have no chance to even defeat ireland

  • reghuh on June 10, 2011, 1:17 GMT

    gayle not in the squad for 3rd odi also....wi is mad..... lets not play virat,raina,rohit sharma,yusuf pathan and send some club players .......to replace these ppl....then also our team will win comprehensively

  • CandidIndian on June 10, 2011, 0:18 GMT

    Indian team is without Dhoni ,Sachin Yuvi, Zak ,Sehwag and Gambhir, still Sammy is happy that they are giving some sort of competition to Indian team shows the condition of WI team.He should realize that this was their best chance to win a series against India with this B team.Reality is that Indians struggled in first match while chasing, but in second they just crushed WI totally and showed no signs of wobbling at any stage,not good signs for WI for coming matches too.India will win the series easily.

  • AvidCricFan on June 9, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    While a lot is written about Sammy, WI and Kohli, Parthiv's performance has gone unnoticed. He is the next best choice to Dhoni for a WC allrounder, much better than Karthik, Rayudu and offcourse Saha.

  • hazeltine on June 9, 2011, 22:18 GMT

    WIndies will never move on unless there is serious analysis of their play. In the 2nd one dayer, Samuels, Simmons, Sarwan , Bravo and Baugh threw their wickets away with utterly irresponsible strokes during the powerplay. What did Sammy or Gibson have to say about it? ANSWER, NOTHING. Neithe, more interestingly,did I hear any real analysis from the commentators Cozier, Dujon, or Bishop about how badly we batted or bowled. These commentators are going to have to tell things the way they are and stop fudging around the issues. It is clear that some of the players have no respect for Sammy, Gibson or Haynes, the Board or the team and should be nowhere near the team but until we hear these commentators COME OUT AND STATE THAT THIS IS SO, WINDIES CRICKET WILL NEVER MOVE ON

  • on June 9, 2011, 18:58 GMT

    IF WI WANT GOOD GAME SO THEY MUST PLAY WITH GYALE AND DARREN BRAVO. THEN WE SEE GOOD GAME BUT I LOVE INDIA ........

  • reghuh on June 9, 2011, 18:19 GMT

    i seriosly think if there is a qualifier round for the next world cup, WI team should go through that......by the current standards, they are worser than Bangladesh....

  • reghuh on June 9, 2011, 18:18 GMT

    If possible, the club players all over India can be sent to WI for a series before they are selected for state teams for Ranji Trophy....lols.... i do not know when the wi board sets aside its ego and calls gayle

  • kumarcoolbuddy on June 9, 2011, 17:19 GMT

    In last match Raina & Co also said that they couldn't bat properly on this slow pitch. Surprisingly why did WI choose slow picthes? and why not fast pitch? I think Ishant will join Indian squad if they are going play on fast pitch in next match.

  • exuma on June 9, 2011, 17:18 GMT

    Sammy is the eternal optimist, what else can he say with the squad the selectors gave him. sammy only job security is being capt, he may shine from time to time with the ball, but is generally unreliable. he is a better bat than baugh and both himself and rampal shoud bat higher than baugh. wicb is waiting until the series is lost 3-0 to bring back gayle as they did with sarwan in the Pak series. WI need chanders, they are struggling to bat 50 overs. EXUMA.

  • reghuh on June 9, 2011, 16:53 GMT

    Actually speaking, for the rest of the matches, india can even try their worst XI possible and test whether WI can pull up a win.....ie 1) Shikhar Dhawan(Immature opener who doesnt even deserve to be in int level) 2) Wridhiman Saha( I dont know how he got selected ahead of karthik/rayudu) 3) A.Mukund (I dont know who he is) 4) P.Patel 5) Yusuf Pathan (uncertain person) 6) Harbhajan Singh (Can be made the captain of the worst team) 7) Ishant sharma 8) Murali kartik (If he would have been picked) 9) S.Sreesanth (No consistancy) 10) P.Ojha (To ensure some runs to the opposition) 11) Somebody who can leak runs like anything.....someone like D.Mohanty

  • NCassie on June 9, 2011, 16:49 GMT

    How many more games to we have to look at CALTON BAUGH FAIL! Please lets start a motion to recall Ramdin to the WI Team, all of those who agree with me we have to speak out to those selectors.

    YES - Recall Dinesh Ramdin now !

  • on June 9, 2011, 16:35 GMT

    Gayle, Barath, Simmons(wk),Darren Bravo, Sarwan, Samuels, Sammy, Rampaul, Roach, Bishoo, Fidel Edwards for the next game at North Sound.

  • rahulcricindia on June 9, 2011, 16:11 GMT

    well i am an INDIAN and very much proud of my young team ..but i still think west indies is not as bad as they look ...i read a comment that INDIAN seamers are better than that of west indies ..well no way .....the likes of roach , fediel ,rampaul, taylor are always better than those of INDIA for sure ...i think in antigua west indies will get home advantage as they should get in previous games too.....I LOVE MY INDIA but i an great fan of WEST INDIES cricket also....lets have a competitive cricket....come on WI..!!!!!

  • jonfox6020 on June 9, 2011, 15:26 GMT

    Ok agreed with some comments. Sammy is really trying to do his best and must be under some pressure. Some of the players are showing some form which is positive going forward to the remainder of the series esp the test. These players are Simmons, Sarwan, Samuels. The selectors need to bring back - Gayle (we badly need him to give us a big start and additional runs to the final score. he can bowl too), Barath (he is fit now, he played for domestic series in Trinidad while Pakistan was here, will open with Gayle), Roach, Taylor or Edwards - strengthen our bowling attack...rotate these fast bowlers with Rampaul...ensuring player fitness management. We also need a w/k who can bat... perhaps Bravo or Simmons can take this role, hence boosting the batting. MY 11 for rest of ODI is Gayle, Barath, Darren Bravo, Sarwan, Samuels, Simmons, Pollard, Sammy, Taylor, Rampaul, Bishoo. Options on bend are Fidel Edwards & Roach (bowling), Bravo(Pollard). Guess will wait and see what the selectors do now

  • satspeare on June 9, 2011, 13:55 GMT

    Gayle, Simmons, Samuels, Pollard, Sarwan, Darren Bravo, Ramdin(WK), Sammy, Rampaul, Bishoo, Fidel. Please don't ask Simmons to wicket-keep, he has a knee problem which WILL worsen with all the constant bending involved and THAT WILL ruin his batting. We MUST play our best keeper (Ramdin) and he is better against spin as well. Gayle will be the second spinner to asist Bishoo, Chanderpaul comes in for Pollard in the test matches and opens with Gayle instead of simmons who will bat at #3. everyone goes down one on the order also. Darren needs to bat a lower for a while until he regains the spark/confidence. have to find a way to play Roach, Fidel, Taylor and Rampaul in the same team at least before the test series. WICB NEEDS to drop this stubborn attitude and get our BEST in one line-up. This is the #1 ranked team in the world and a weaker than normal line too -DO NOT lose this chance to beat them!! PLEASE, Gayle MUST play- we just CANNOT not play our BEST opener!!

  • on June 9, 2011, 13:26 GMT

    is this the same country that produced joel garner, michael holding, viv richard, clive lloyd, rohan kanhai, curtly ambrose? my god man.

  • on June 9, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    im indian, im 20, and ive never really seen the west indian team at their peak. but ive read so much about them, ive seen so many videos about them that im just itching for a competitive and awesome west indian team that can outright defeat anyone. come on!!! seriously, i want the west indies to succeed. india already has.

  • CricketChat on June 9, 2011, 12:39 GMT

    Win or lose, WI should prepare fast and bouncy pitches for the rest of the Ind tour. No more slow, spinning pitches as it plays right into India's strength. If India has one perennial weakness, it is against pace and bounce. That's the only realistic chance this WI team has to compete against Ind.

  • NCassie on June 9, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    Simmons could keep but he has issues with a knee injury, the WI middle order needs to be reshuffle and again BAUGH needs to GO. Pollard needs to bat early in order to maximize BATTING during the batting power play. WI cannot just take the power play without the Pollard even facing a over. WI collapsed as soon as they took the power play. Pollard needs to bat within the first 5 batters otherwise if he can, let him open and bat through the innings. MY ODI squad for the 3rd ODI - GAYLE/EDWARDS, SIMMONS, SARWAN, SAMUEL, POLLARD, BRAVO, SAMMY, RAMPAUL, BISHOO, MARTIN/FIDEL & ROACH

  • TestIP on June 9, 2011, 11:58 GMT

    The WI team will soon be re-named to WIN ONE SOON! Is Sammy a comedian? Would someone please fire the WI management? This is a slap in the face to WI cricket. Why are these people hiding the talanted players? With this side I cannot see them ever passing 240 runs. Sammy should not even make the side...who made him captain? Why is carlton bough playing infront of denis ramdin? Bough cannot bat...smiple biased decision! WI team should be Gayle, simmons, sarwan, samuels, chanderpaul, pollard, ramdin, roach, edwards, taylor, A russel. Although Bishoo is good for test matches, you cannot just play a spinner. You need a spinner/batsman....he needs to improve in his batting. Someone please fire all the jacks and install the correct WI team which can win a match.

  • on June 9, 2011, 11:21 GMT

    Hopefully we will see some bounce and pace the next three matches. If it spins the same way it did in the first two, it is like touring sri lanka. We want to see our lads tested in genuine pacy conditions even if India goes down 2-3.

  • stanlee on June 9, 2011, 11:16 GMT

    Sammy is still engaging in the type of positive spin that he has been doing since his elevation to the captaincy, a position for which his mediocrity as player and tactician is being ruthlessly exposed.Case in point- instead of bringing on his spinners earlier as the Indians did and on a spin friendly track- he proceeded to bowl his full quota of dibbly dobblers' which as usual provided no threat to the Indians.Sammy in fact engages in much of the same delusional thinking that pervades the Caribbean -note comments by V Richards and Richardson who are always seem to see a silver lining in Windies cricket when there is very little evidence of that from an objective viewer.The decision by the ECCB not to have the West indies appear at Lords next year is no accident, and as N Hussain put it, West Indies have not earned the right to play at Lords. That is precisely the type of objectivity that is sorely lacking in the thinking in Caribbean cricket.

  • devocate on June 9, 2011, 11:15 GMT

    i think west indies selectors are pooping on their tails now and they really need to select the best possible team for the sake and survival of west indies cricket, there are too many all- rounders on the side and they are not consistent performers. bwayne bravo should only be playing tests and t 20, pollard only t 20, and sammy only tests. we have the best pool of all and out fast bowlers right now in rampaul, roach, edwards and taylor let them play. mix them into the test and one day sides. 1 day team- gayle, simmons, sarwan, darren bravo, samuels, bravo, rampaul, bishoo, roach, taylor, kirk edwards(he is showing some form), fidel edwards and andre russel

    test team- gayle, bharath, sarwan, samuels, chanderpaul, nash, ramdin, sammy, fidel edwards, rampaul, simmons, taylor roach and bishoo. 14 of the best for the test.

  • Ronsars on June 9, 2011, 9:09 GMT

    Gotto feel for Sars here with no Gayle & Chanders he is the lone experienced guy who has to stabilise the middle-order,guide the youngsters & also score @ brisk rate....Now Mr.Sammy says Bishoo isn't used to workload?!What on earth is that he is your leading spin bowler & that chap is more than happy to bowl given a chance...Ya tell Sars to bowl his legbreaks for 10 overs & increase his burden more Mr.Sammy & how about improving your own performance?

  • Stos on June 9, 2011, 8:09 GMT

    @Radhakrishna: To be honest, I'm not certain that there's much basis for saying that the West Indies played any more badly than India during this match.

  • PaddyRasta on June 9, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    What rubbish. How could asking a spin bowler, Bishoo, to bowl up-to 10 tight overs in an ODI be any kind of "workload"? He's 25 not 16 - He needs to keep playing. How can he possibly burn out? He's just had an off-day like the rest of the bowlers did. The problem was/is there was not a real pace man to pair Rampaul with the new ball. Again, it is easy to keep your wicket when you do not have pressure coming from both ends. One of the so-called "allrounders" needs to be dropped, probably Dw Bravo. Drop Baugh; let Simmo keep; Gayle and Pollard open and Fidel in for Martin (Gayle's the 2nd spinner if needed), Barath in for Dw Bravo (he must be ready). Gayle, Pollard, Darren Bravo, Barath, Sarwan, Simmo (WK), Samuels, Sammy, Rampaul, Bishoo, Fidel.

  • on June 9, 2011, 7:38 GMT

    @notredam:5-0 is certain, not because india is playing good, but windies is playing way bad..but i am happy being an indian fan

  • nilay11 on June 9, 2011, 7:07 GMT

    Although i agree with the author of this article with respect to West Indies taking a few positives out of the last game, I still think this article could have a mention about the vast gap in exposure between the 2 teams, while our youngsters have continuously been involved with playing cricket, (in any format),at the highest level, be it IPL, World Cup , or the champions trophy, the west indian youngsters have really not been exposed to it. They play domestic cricket, but with the scarcity of real talent in West Indies, the players are not continuously exposed to top level cricket.You can see that both teams learned from earlier mistakes, the Indian top order did not collapse like the last game , and the west indians showed some serious intent before the collapse. The fact of the matter is that on any day , if both teams are playing at the same level, a second string indian team will easily beat the best west indian team (without a certain Jamaican). The WICB needs to really ponder.

  • vidyasagar06071993 on June 9, 2011, 7:00 GMT

    where is roach??????bring him back. west indies is losing bcoz it is not using resources properly.they not playing their best players.

  • WestIndies1987 on June 9, 2011, 6:16 GMT

    I have no doubt that like all other West Indians, Sammy does genuinely want the best for our cricket but he is just not up to it. The WICB needs to take a lot of the blame for their treatment of certain players and until their VINDICTIVENESS changes, we fans will continue to suffer.

  • Stos on June 9, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    @harshacc: I think that it was actually quite reasonable for Sammy to have bowled out his overs. He seems to have been trying to make it so that he could go for a long, constricting spell with both spinners on during the middle overs, which seems to me to have been a good idea, as this would have put pressure on the Indian batsmen. Martin is very good at constricting batsmen (and with more runs to get and more pressure to maintain wickets, hitting out to him would have been effectively suicidal, as we saw last game; indeed, in this one the West Indies collapsed due to playing too aggressively), while Bishoo had a lot of near-misses and was looking like getting a wicket or two, so them bowling in tandem for a while during the middle overs would have been an effective strategy. If Bishoo could get a wicket or two, and the run rate could start putting pressure on newer batsmen, both being quite likely, then India could well have gone the way of WI.

  • Notredam on June 9, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    India looks set to win series..now 3:2 or 4:1..if rains affect,,then 3:1 also luks possibility..

  • on June 9, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    Nothing more to say, the windies should play their full team, bring back gayle, roach, fiedel edwards, taylor and play ur full team, u have a good chance then.

  • harshacc on June 9, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Sammy might be a good motivator and a person who gives it his all, but it was mystifying when he bowled his full quota of overs through in yesterday's match.Nothing was happening and he still went on full with his quota.Bad strategy

  • stevejohnson1010 on June 9, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    If Antigua wicket has more so called pace and bounce, it will not suit WI either, as they do not have a world class fast bowler apart from Rampaul, I believe in such a situation Praveen and Munaf may extract better advantage of that wicket than WI fast bowler. It is all about confidence, IND have just won the WC'11 and riding high on that confidence. By the way I did not understand logic behind giving MoM to Kohli, as I believe Parthiv was more worthy candidate. He brought impetus to IND chase, and dont forget he caught two and stumped two in WI innings as a keeper too.

  • Balb on June 9, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    West Indies still needs a wicketkeeper batsman to boost their batting strenght. If Gayle comes back, then Baugh goes and Simmons will have to be behind the wicket if they want to turn the tide in this series. The camp has to start looking seriously in developing a specialist wicketkeeper batsman. There is need to find the likes of a Murray/Dujion kind of keeper. Across the world every keepeer is a consistent and dependable batsman. Haynes has more than his hands full as a batting coach. West Indies batsmen must develop the thirst for runs and the only way to do that is to be mentally fit. Positive temperment and accurate shot selection. Pollard needs to be reminded that the twenty 20 game is over unless that is all what he knows and he can compete in. Dwayne is a little too rusty unless there is something else wrong with him. Kirk Edwards is still a lucky selectiion. If Adrian Barath is fit, Edwards goes. And for Sammy, mistakes do happens but you just can't afford to drop catches.

  • john2ujo on June 9, 2011, 4:57 GMT

    I think West indies cricket will never be what it used to be in the 70's and 80's.Im saying this because the captain is blaming the pitch for the loss and not their own abilities.It wont make a difference whether its a slow pitch or a bouncy wicket,the west indies does not possess good fast bowlers.Indian bowlers are much better.so please sammy try to make things better by playing positive cricket and dont depend on the outside factors which are not in our control.

  • VivGilchrist on June 9, 2011, 4:57 GMT

    Ok. Freshen Bishoo up for the Tests. Bring in Taylor, Fidel, and Roach for Amtigua and hit them with some good old fashioned Windies aggression. Let these Indians know that they are playing on your patch. Bring in Gayle to open with Pollard, drop Baugh, and for goodness sake - tell Sarwan to hurry up.

  • anver777 on June 9, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    My dear Sarwan u'r playing limited overs cricket not test cricket !!! although he had 2 consecutive 50's so far his strike rate is very very poor for a ODI. We cricket lovers want to see a attacking Sarwan of past in future matches for WI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • on June 9, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Immediately Change Dwayne bravo,carlton baugh and Kirk Edwards from this team as no point of taking 3 similar types of player (Bravo,sammy,pollard) with tremendous inconsistency. Include Gayle, Darren bravo,and C'paul. Replace one Martin with Taylor/Roach. Don't ever try to put lame excuses on giving oppertunities to younger players.

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  • on June 9, 2011, 4:06 GMT

    Immediately Change Dwayne bravo,carlton baugh and Kirk Edwards from this team as no point of taking 3 similar types of player (Bravo,sammy,pollard) with tremendous inconsistency. Include Gayle, Darren bravo,and C'paul. Replace one Martin with Taylor/Roach. Don't ever try to put lame excuses on giving oppertunities to younger players.

  • anver777 on June 9, 2011, 4:52 GMT

    My dear Sarwan u'r playing limited overs cricket not test cricket !!! although he had 2 consecutive 50's so far his strike rate is very very poor for a ODI. We cricket lovers want to see a attacking Sarwan of past in future matches for WI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • VivGilchrist on June 9, 2011, 4:57 GMT

    Ok. Freshen Bishoo up for the Tests. Bring in Taylor, Fidel, and Roach for Amtigua and hit them with some good old fashioned Windies aggression. Let these Indians know that they are playing on your patch. Bring in Gayle to open with Pollard, drop Baugh, and for goodness sake - tell Sarwan to hurry up.

  • john2ujo on June 9, 2011, 4:57 GMT

    I think West indies cricket will never be what it used to be in the 70's and 80's.Im saying this because the captain is blaming the pitch for the loss and not their own abilities.It wont make a difference whether its a slow pitch or a bouncy wicket,the west indies does not possess good fast bowlers.Indian bowlers are much better.so please sammy try to make things better by playing positive cricket and dont depend on the outside factors which are not in our control.

  • Balb on June 9, 2011, 4:59 GMT

    West Indies still needs a wicketkeeper batsman to boost their batting strenght. If Gayle comes back, then Baugh goes and Simmons will have to be behind the wicket if they want to turn the tide in this series. The camp has to start looking seriously in developing a specialist wicketkeeper batsman. There is need to find the likes of a Murray/Dujion kind of keeper. Across the world every keepeer is a consistent and dependable batsman. Haynes has more than his hands full as a batting coach. West Indies batsmen must develop the thirst for runs and the only way to do that is to be mentally fit. Positive temperment and accurate shot selection. Pollard needs to be reminded that the twenty 20 game is over unless that is all what he knows and he can compete in. Dwayne is a little too rusty unless there is something else wrong with him. Kirk Edwards is still a lucky selectiion. If Adrian Barath is fit, Edwards goes. And for Sammy, mistakes do happens but you just can't afford to drop catches.

  • stevejohnson1010 on June 9, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    If Antigua wicket has more so called pace and bounce, it will not suit WI either, as they do not have a world class fast bowler apart from Rampaul, I believe in such a situation Praveen and Munaf may extract better advantage of that wicket than WI fast bowler. It is all about confidence, IND have just won the WC'11 and riding high on that confidence. By the way I did not understand logic behind giving MoM to Kohli, as I believe Parthiv was more worthy candidate. He brought impetus to IND chase, and dont forget he caught two and stumped two in WI innings as a keeper too.

  • harshacc on June 9, 2011, 5:03 GMT

    Sammy might be a good motivator and a person who gives it his all, but it was mystifying when he bowled his full quota of overs through in yesterday's match.Nothing was happening and he still went on full with his quota.Bad strategy

  • on June 9, 2011, 5:26 GMT

    Nothing more to say, the windies should play their full team, bring back gayle, roach, fiedel edwards, taylor and play ur full team, u have a good chance then.

  • Notredam on June 9, 2011, 5:55 GMT

    India looks set to win series..now 3:2 or 4:1..if rains affect,,then 3:1 also luks possibility..

  • Stos on June 9, 2011, 6:04 GMT

    @harshacc: I think that it was actually quite reasonable for Sammy to have bowled out his overs. He seems to have been trying to make it so that he could go for a long, constricting spell with both spinners on during the middle overs, which seems to me to have been a good idea, as this would have put pressure on the Indian batsmen. Martin is very good at constricting batsmen (and with more runs to get and more pressure to maintain wickets, hitting out to him would have been effectively suicidal, as we saw last game; indeed, in this one the West Indies collapsed due to playing too aggressively), while Bishoo had a lot of near-misses and was looking like getting a wicket or two, so them bowling in tandem for a while during the middle overs would have been an effective strategy. If Bishoo could get a wicket or two, and the run rate could start putting pressure on newer batsmen, both being quite likely, then India could well have gone the way of WI.