West Indies v India, 2nd Test, Bridgetown, 5th day July 3, 2011

What's ailing Ramnaresh Sarwan?

Things were looking up at the end of the ODI series but his failure in the two Tests could hurt his future prospects
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It's a bad time to be Ramnaresh Sarwan. The West Indies Cricket Board (WICB) doesn't seem too happy with the seniors and Sarwan's batting form could not have let him down at a worse time. He needs runs. His team needs his runs. A large shadow of pressure is tailing him. He wasn't picked for the initial part of the Pakistan series and hasn't been among the runs since he returned. He raised hopes with a finely-constructed 75 in the final ODI against India but has slipped up again. It remains to be seen if the selectors give him one more chance in the final Test or leave him out.

The fluency has been lacking and the pitches haven't helped. India's bowlers have got him with two types of deliveries: the short-of-length ball that straightens outside off and the one that cuts back in from a fuller length. Two such incutters dismissed him in the first innings of the two Tests and two short-of-length deliveries that held their line saw him off in the second.

His dismissals in the second innings reflect the gap between intent and form. Sarwan tried to hit deliveries on the up and edged behind. It didn't look good. In the radio shows, he was castigated for the "poor shot". His seniority was dragged into the equation. Both shots were overly expansive, and the situation didn't demand them. But one can understand Sarwan's state of mind and the circumstances that might have prompted him to play like that. In both instances, West Indies were chasing and Sarwan perhaps wanted to show intent. And lead by example. They were tempting opportunities to display his prowess. Score quick runs, take the team close to the target, and set the tone - that's what many batsmen at No.3 are supposed to do in a chase. That's what an in-form Sarwan would do. He tried, but failed this series.

Sarwan, throughout his career, has had a tendency to get squared up by the short-of-length delivery straightening around off, but in better times he would manage to push his bat inside the line. In this series, though, every such delivery seems to have his name on it.

Yet, there had been some improvement from some of his earlier performances in the ODI series where he, by his own admission, was struggling for fluency. He had reduced his game to two shots - the square drive and the cut. Slowly, as the series progressed, he improved. In the final game, he gradually began to drive straighter. The cuts and square drives continued, of course, but he showed better shot-selection, adapting to the length.

In this Test series, however, the pressure appears to have got to him. The pitches, too, have played their part. They've had some spice and not allowed Sarwan to go through with those big shots. Perhaps, the time has come for Sarwan to return to grafting, fighting it out in the middle and showing a willingness to look ugly. The first-innings dismissals show it won't be an easy thing to do even if he is in the mood. Both were good deliveries, of course, but it looked all too simple: push Sarwan back with short-of-length deliveries and then slip in a full delivery that nips back in. He fell for the trap on both occasions. Looking ahead, he'll need some luck and plenty of support from his team.

Will that support be forthcoming? Darren Sammy, his captain, gave mixed signals. "Sars is a classy player," Sammy said. "We all know what he is capable of. We all know he is going through a [rough] patch right now. He is one of our more experienced batsmen. We have been supporting him." It sounds like support, but there were also hints of something dire. "At the end of the day the selectors have a job to do," Sammy said. "I don't know whether any changes will be done." Will Sarwan get another chance?

Ian Bishop, the former West Indies fast bowler and currently a commentator, is confident Sarwan has a lot more to offer. He believes that at 31, Sarwan should be at the prime of his career. With a bit of luck and a lot of fight, Sarwan has the ability to turn things around. If he is picked for the final Test in Dominica, he'll have another chance. But given the way things are in West Indies cricket at the moment, who knows when the push can turn into a shove.

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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  • WI_anaylst on July 5, 2011, 14:03 GMT

    A man can't bat and it is the WICB's fault. When will some of you wake up and start putting blame on these players. Do you guys realise that all of our senior players are millionaires..still asking for money and STILL NOT PRODUCING. Look at the difference in the two sides Dravid and Laxman stepping up in a young indian side... Sarwan and Chanderpaul? Look no better than the youngsters! Stop BLAMING THE BOARD and START blaming these players who have been jerking us around for years and always begging for more money!

  • bbpp on July 5, 2011, 13:26 GMT

    Sars is a failure? 87 tests, avg 40 with 15 centuries, ODI avg 43 with SR 75? Let's see, Desmond Haynes 116 tests, avg 42, 18 centuries, ODI avg 41, SR 63 and he was a great! Larry Gomes, 60 tests, avg 39, 9 centuries, ODI not worth mentioning. Richie Richardson (current batting coach) 86 tests, avg 44, 16 centuries, ODI avg 33, SR 63. Sars ODI batting avg and SR way better than Richie and Gomes and better than Haynes while his test avg is a bit lower than Haynes and Richie and better than Gomes. Centuries per test better than Haynes and Gomes......are these all failures? Vishwanath's 100 against Jumadeen, Inshan Ali and Co is legendary but Sars 100 against McGrath, Lee etc in that 418 chase forgotten. What about his batting against England during the last tour at home when he was the wall throughout when we battled to keep the lead he set up in Jamaica for Taylor? Add to that our best ODI finisher for 10 yrs and he is a failure? No Gibson, Butts, Browne and R Haynes were successes!

  • abiose on July 5, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    There is a reason why some are administrators and the rest must remain fans. Each player must earn their place in the side by performance and by conduct. What nonsense, as soon as a player gets sacked he gets on a plane and goes on holiday. Who is Gayle to divulge confidential information about board meetings? Why does he feel that whosoever votes against him does not like him? That in itself shows he is not worthy of the captaincy. He has no sense of diplomacy and tactic. Sars flight to miami after the news will demonstrate a lack of commitment to WI cricket. He should come home, hit the GYMN, NETS etc and get himself in best shape and form.... Look at Nintini and Brett Lee as examples of resilliance.

  • rkannancrown on July 5, 2011, 9:33 GMT

    On current form, sarwan clearly has no place in the team. What needs to be understood is also a question of strategy. If the opening pair is doing well, an attacking no.3 will help. In the present situation, WI needs a grafter at no.3 and should move Chanderpaul up the order. Chanderpaul is not an attacking batsman but can be the sheet anchor who holds one end up.Playing Chanderpaul at no.5 exposes him to the tail quickly and he is not capable of scoring quickly with the tailenders defending. It alll boils down to a question of strategy but the think tank appears to be missing this part.

  • on July 4, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    the dark days are upon us, where is the intervention of our caribbean leaders are they not seeing the state of our cricket.

    i think trinidad, jamaica and barbados should pull out from the wicb and try and gain full test and playing status from the icc.

    that's how low our cricket in our region has come. help us pleasssssssssssssse.

  • sandeepgov on July 4, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    Its time for Andre Russel.

  • cindian on July 4, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    What is aling Sarwan is West Indies Cricket Board. I agree that he is not playing up to any standard and he(Sarwan) would also agree---but with the WICB, Gibson and Clyde Butts there is no room for getting the groove back into playing top notch cricket because now not only does a crickter has to worry about the Opposition he and Shiv has to be paying attention to WICB, Gibson, Clyde Butts and Sammy---so If I am any of the senior players it is not a place to be-- that is in the WI team---they under attach from Gibson, WICB and Butts combined theyhave not played more than 10 test---and they are in charge and being very vindictive too. So I like Sars comment "Miami here I come"---out of this of sight of the WICB.I expect SC to announce his retirement soon --enough of this nonsense.

  • Dashgar on July 4, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    Have people forgotten the last 10 years? Yes Sarwan, Shiv and Gayle have looked good at times but West Indies have been terrible for ages. They have now had enough of this old guard and are looking to their youth. Players like Barath, Simmons and Bravo will lead West Indies out of this slump. Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Gayle put them into the slump, why do they get so much support without scoring runs.

  • Diaspora-ite on July 4, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    Good decision by the selectors. Selfish cricketer unlike Shiv. His batting has been pathetic. Let him go shopping for ear-rings in Miami. Good riddance.

  • on July 4, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    The now the English-washed, former West Indian reject has returned to the Caribbean with a superiority complex to coach a team he was barely able to play something like two test matches for. And we wonder about some of the obvious selection blunders...the comedy of it all ! Can you imagine Duncan Fletcher telling Dravid, Tendulkar or Laxman how to bat in the middle of their innings? Or coaches sending messages to Sangakkara, Jayawardena, Kallis, Ponting, Hussey etc. in the middle of their innings? Was Gibson sending messages to England's bowlers out on the field telling them how to bowl when he was coach? Gibson is a bowling coach and WI bowling has looked better, but he needs to leave matters of batting to those who have done it successfully and actually know something about it.

  • WI_anaylst on July 5, 2011, 14:03 GMT

    A man can't bat and it is the WICB's fault. When will some of you wake up and start putting blame on these players. Do you guys realise that all of our senior players are millionaires..still asking for money and STILL NOT PRODUCING. Look at the difference in the two sides Dravid and Laxman stepping up in a young indian side... Sarwan and Chanderpaul? Look no better than the youngsters! Stop BLAMING THE BOARD and START blaming these players who have been jerking us around for years and always begging for more money!

  • bbpp on July 5, 2011, 13:26 GMT

    Sars is a failure? 87 tests, avg 40 with 15 centuries, ODI avg 43 with SR 75? Let's see, Desmond Haynes 116 tests, avg 42, 18 centuries, ODI avg 41, SR 63 and he was a great! Larry Gomes, 60 tests, avg 39, 9 centuries, ODI not worth mentioning. Richie Richardson (current batting coach) 86 tests, avg 44, 16 centuries, ODI avg 33, SR 63. Sars ODI batting avg and SR way better than Richie and Gomes and better than Haynes while his test avg is a bit lower than Haynes and Richie and better than Gomes. Centuries per test better than Haynes and Gomes......are these all failures? Vishwanath's 100 against Jumadeen, Inshan Ali and Co is legendary but Sars 100 against McGrath, Lee etc in that 418 chase forgotten. What about his batting against England during the last tour at home when he was the wall throughout when we battled to keep the lead he set up in Jamaica for Taylor? Add to that our best ODI finisher for 10 yrs and he is a failure? No Gibson, Butts, Browne and R Haynes were successes!

  • abiose on July 5, 2011, 12:48 GMT

    There is a reason why some are administrators and the rest must remain fans. Each player must earn their place in the side by performance and by conduct. What nonsense, as soon as a player gets sacked he gets on a plane and goes on holiday. Who is Gayle to divulge confidential information about board meetings? Why does he feel that whosoever votes against him does not like him? That in itself shows he is not worthy of the captaincy. He has no sense of diplomacy and tactic. Sars flight to miami after the news will demonstrate a lack of commitment to WI cricket. He should come home, hit the GYMN, NETS etc and get himself in best shape and form.... Look at Nintini and Brett Lee as examples of resilliance.

  • rkannancrown on July 5, 2011, 9:33 GMT

    On current form, sarwan clearly has no place in the team. What needs to be understood is also a question of strategy. If the opening pair is doing well, an attacking no.3 will help. In the present situation, WI needs a grafter at no.3 and should move Chanderpaul up the order. Chanderpaul is not an attacking batsman but can be the sheet anchor who holds one end up.Playing Chanderpaul at no.5 exposes him to the tail quickly and he is not capable of scoring quickly with the tailenders defending. It alll boils down to a question of strategy but the think tank appears to be missing this part.

  • on July 4, 2011, 19:36 GMT

    the dark days are upon us, where is the intervention of our caribbean leaders are they not seeing the state of our cricket.

    i think trinidad, jamaica and barbados should pull out from the wicb and try and gain full test and playing status from the icc.

    that's how low our cricket in our region has come. help us pleasssssssssssssse.

  • sandeepgov on July 4, 2011, 19:12 GMT

    Its time for Andre Russel.

  • cindian on July 4, 2011, 17:37 GMT

    What is aling Sarwan is West Indies Cricket Board. I agree that he is not playing up to any standard and he(Sarwan) would also agree---but with the WICB, Gibson and Clyde Butts there is no room for getting the groove back into playing top notch cricket because now not only does a crickter has to worry about the Opposition he and Shiv has to be paying attention to WICB, Gibson, Clyde Butts and Sammy---so If I am any of the senior players it is not a place to be-- that is in the WI team---they under attach from Gibson, WICB and Butts combined theyhave not played more than 10 test---and they are in charge and being very vindictive too. So I like Sars comment "Miami here I come"---out of this of sight of the WICB.I expect SC to announce his retirement soon --enough of this nonsense.

  • Dashgar on July 4, 2011, 17:01 GMT

    Have people forgotten the last 10 years? Yes Sarwan, Shiv and Gayle have looked good at times but West Indies have been terrible for ages. They have now had enough of this old guard and are looking to their youth. Players like Barath, Simmons and Bravo will lead West Indies out of this slump. Sarwan, Chanderpaul and Gayle put them into the slump, why do they get so much support without scoring runs.

  • Diaspora-ite on July 4, 2011, 16:42 GMT

    Good decision by the selectors. Selfish cricketer unlike Shiv. His batting has been pathetic. Let him go shopping for ear-rings in Miami. Good riddance.

  • on July 4, 2011, 15:29 GMT

    The now the English-washed, former West Indian reject has returned to the Caribbean with a superiority complex to coach a team he was barely able to play something like two test matches for. And we wonder about some of the obvious selection blunders...the comedy of it all ! Can you imagine Duncan Fletcher telling Dravid, Tendulkar or Laxman how to bat in the middle of their innings? Or coaches sending messages to Sangakkara, Jayawardena, Kallis, Ponting, Hussey etc. in the middle of their innings? Was Gibson sending messages to England's bowlers out on the field telling them how to bowl when he was coach? Gibson is a bowling coach and WI bowling has looked better, but he needs to leave matters of batting to those who have done it successfully and actually know something about it.

  • LSmith on July 4, 2011, 15:16 GMT

    Sarwan dont come to Miami, join yougsters academy in WI, learn real batting....

  • LSmith on July 4, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    Ramnaresh Sarwan: Actually average type batsmen, thrived mainaly & initially to Indian bowlers; his main contribution to WI team so far. He was dropped vs. Pak but immediately picked for Indian tour. New Indian era bowlers getting into real fast bowling act, intimidating batsmen, and use of bouncers, Yorkers, hence sarwan found it difficult to score cheap runs…

  • TestIP on July 4, 2011, 12:36 GMT

    WI management needs to go. All thier decent batsmen are placed on sidelines. When they come back it is hard to perform. It is a bunch of racist and bias fools who are managing the WI cricket. Hence why all thier fans are gone. Why are the dropping Sarwan and Nash as soon as they dont perform? Why are they not dropping Calton bough for Denish Ramdin? Why are they not dropping Darren Sammy for someone who can actually play cricket? Why are they still pushing Lindi Simmons after soo many failures.....wake up and see the light. WI cricket is going into the negatives and unless the management and coach goes it will not change. I perfer to watch Canada play than the WI current disgrace of a team.

  • on July 4, 2011, 10:03 GMT

    Well the tragedy was in the making when Gayle alledged that Otis Gibson has ruined Sarwan's confidence. At present WI is without Gayle(their best player without doubt), Dwayne Bravo, Sarwan, and Chanderpaul has already started looking past his best before date. Barath, Simmons and Darren Bravo are talented but very inconsistent. So all the burden of batting is now on Samuels' shoulders who again showed his determination in the first innings. Well, coach Gibson and the WICB on the whole, before questioning Gayle's commitment, should first check their commitment to the cause of WI cricket.

  • SUNILDASWANEY on July 4, 2011, 9:23 GMT

    I AGREE WITH THE SELECTORS DROPPING SARWAN FOR THE 3RD TEST BUT NOT DROPPING FOREVER.ALLOW HIM SOME TIME TO GET BACK INTO HIS GROOVE AGAIN AND THEN RE-PICK HIM.

  • SRT_GENIUS on July 4, 2011, 3:59 GMT

    Welll WICB continues to do one better than PCB. CA is the laggard in the 3 horse race.

  • BnH1985Fan on July 4, 2011, 0:29 GMT

    This one is hard to digest. Agreed, Sars has been distracted and not contributed. But to drop a guy with 87 matches and and an average of 40 is hard to fathom given the current drought. WICB needs to get its act together.

  • on July 3, 2011, 23:58 GMT

    It's not by chance that the senior batsmen in the West Indies team have struggled. Batting is much about form and technique as it is about confidence. Sarwan, Chanderpaul, and to a lesser extent Gayle before he was unceremoniously kicked from the team looked a shadow of themselves. Gayle in his own admission expounded that the present coach has all but destroyed the confidence of the seniors in the team. The motivational aspect of coaching at the senior level is more important than the technical aspect in my opinion. The present coach seems to be doing an excellent job in destroying the confidence of his senior players. The players who are supose to "carry" the less experience plyers on the team are looking clueless, because of a lack of self belief (confidence) planted in their head by the coach. Dropping Sarwan from the team for the final test match against India, is probably not the right thing to do. The correct thing would be to get rid of the coach. Let's see what happens.

  • on July 3, 2011, 23:27 GMT

    The WI team needs a batting leader, if Sarwan cannot guide the young players along as the rebuilding takes root then he has no place in the team

  • ranpath on July 3, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    Let's face it. A batsman with Sarwan's degree of test experience should realise that he needs to " play himself" in first and then get after the bowling. It is a rare thing to see a batsman just arrived and immediately begin to play productive attacking shots ( except maybe in T 20 ). So the argument that he was trying to show intent and hammer the bowling does not hold water. Maybe it is time that he steps aside and allow a younger player to step in. Shiv Chanderpaul, age 36, please take this advice as well.

  • VivGilchrist on July 3, 2011, 22:37 GMT

    Is it Gibsons fault? Or is it Sammys captaincy? I know, I know, it's the board! Or could it be the guy with the bat in his hand - Sarwan himself who is just out of form and letting himself and his team down? Oh, it's got to be Gibsons fault!

  • AceB on July 3, 2011, 21:48 GMT

    I can understand why so many want to see west Indies cricket continue with the status quo , it gives them sonething to gripe about . Remember losing in two days and three days in the recent past . A team that seemed to have no clue , with the captain turning up the day before the first test . The Australians saw the way the team functioned , wanted an easy time , took the money ruffled no feathers and left. Enter Gibson who is versed in Caribbean mentality , decided to take no prisoners and all hell breaks loose . But things needed to change . Now Chanderpaul can't function because the coach want to tell him how to bat , forget about team tactics just let Mr Chanderpaul bat , no matter what the match situation . Mr Sarwan looses confidence , well it must be the coach , forget 'bout fitness , score fortysomething and get cramp . And Mr Gayle the person who wished test cricket would die out , say no more . The selectors have a job to do . It's shape up or ship out , and about time too .

  • rashoon on July 3, 2011, 21:06 GMT

    people of the Wi Sars, Galy are all failours; these guys are now 30 years old; they started playing for WI at 19 we have been losing games for 10 years with these guys; did not win one in 2 years with these guys so what is the problem. shandapual bats for him self, when he bats he blocks and put pressure on the other batmen. where are the cenior plays qho will guid brov and other young pLAYS these guys need to get it right. or let them go. these are the first set of professionals who are paid to to a job and they refuse to do it.

  • on July 3, 2011, 20:18 GMT

    Right now I have stopped supporting West Indies. I am just sorry for people like Darren Bravo, Adrian Barath (young batsmen looking to make their way in Int'l cricktet) and Devendra Bishoo and Andre Russell - clearly talented young cricketers. As the board is out to get rid of our last superstars. We have been underperforming since the mid 1990s, but we still loved a dominant innings by Lara, Gayle, Sarwan or Chanderpaul (he has a 100 off 60-odd balls - don't forget). At least outstanding performances from our stars - don't forget exceptional performances by Taylor, Edwards and Roach - kept our interest. Now, on the batting side of things, these are all but gone. It is unfortunate for Marlon Samuels to have to come into a team that is performing like this when you have your own personal points to prove as an exiled cricketer. In my opinion, he is our best test batsman at the moment (on current form) and they have been keeping him out of the team nonetheless...

  • cgtboy87 on July 3, 2011, 19:46 GMT

    WICB DID SO MUCH WRONG TO SARWAN I FEEL SO SORRY FOR HIM..ALOT OF MENTAL ABUSE....AND NOW THE DROP HIM..GIBSON AND THE SELECTOR AND THE CEO NEED TO GOOOOO!!!!

  • Metman on July 3, 2011, 19:24 GMT

    @satspeare !no sir !What is ailing Sarwan ?The Board and Gayle,not the Board and Gibson !Don't get confused !Gibson was not even the coach when Sarwan returned from injury.When Sarwan was skipper and he got injured, the Board turned to Gayle ,upon returning and expecting to be given back the captaincy,the Board stood with Gayle !Since then,Sarwan was offered the v.capt role,and he refused,RIGHTFULLY SO !Since then Sarwan has been sulking,and only performing that much as to maintained his place on the team.The Board is not acting childish,it is Gayle.Gayle critisises and has things to say about Sammy, the Board,the coach,management,the WI crowd,almost everybody who has something to do with WI cricket now,and in the past,and now wants to to be around those same persons .,and yu are telling me it is the Board that is acting childish? Benn does the same with Gayle as skipper,and gets' sent off ',and everybody agrees with Gayle ! Gayle disrespects everybody,and everybody agrees with him.

  • AnotherCricketFan on July 3, 2011, 18:09 GMT

    Gibson to West Indies is same as G Chappell to India. He created havoc in the team - killed two greats (Ganguly and Dravid), destroyed Irfan. And other than Raina - who still have not shown his brilliance against top quality Test bowlers - he FOUND no one. Similarly here Gibson is destroying the set elders - by disassociating with them - Gayle, Chanders, Sarwan instead of capitalizing on their leadership and experience. Egos, egos, egos. Talented players have big egos and as a coach he needs to tap into that to the benefit. M Samules adores Gayle! And he can grow under him and has the talent. Sammy can carry a lesser load and one does not think he will be selected as a player! The only +ves Gibson has got so far is Rampaul and Bishoo (and that too in late 20s). Pollard, Roach, Bravo(s) have not made any impact - so far.

  • Mayfield on July 3, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    Sarwan needs to take a look at Rampaul. From all accounts and from the man himself, fitness has been the key to his recent success. Sarwan needs to get fit physically and this will lead to him being mentally sharp. Ask any elite athlete, the two go hand in hand.

  • satspeare on July 3, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    What's ailing Sarwan?? Simply put - WICB and Gibson. THis is the guy that was supposed to be captainand upon being injured was replaced by Gayle. Gayle had issues with the board, Sarwan returned but Sammy names captain!! wow, what leadership. No wonder the guys are refusing to lead the team - officially and by performance. WICB has ruined their confidence and yet demand that they perform. They are frustrating players who oppose them and Gayle's episode is a public demonstration of their childishness and HUGH egos. WICB wants an apology but are they going to apologise to West Indies for bringing our cricketers and our cricket to its knees?? They are indeed the leaders and the buck stops with them but THIS NONSENSE IN NOT LEADERSHIP!! Gayle is WRONG to go public but they are justified to do the same? We were given a chance to regain some ranking in the world and these Clowns are looking for apologies and meetings. Sammy needs to let us know if this was part of the 3 year plan.

  • on July 3, 2011, 15:13 GMT

    @Windies_will_rise you must not have watched many windies games then to have not seen sarwan win games. remember chasing 418? remember his champion's trophy performance? how about against sri lanka in 2008? and then again against new zealand in 2009 carrying his bat. a test and odi average above 40 is more than showing your potential

  • ramps_wi on July 3, 2011, 15:03 GMT

    The WI team lacks motivational leadership and SAmmy cannot provide this because he tries so hard to motivate himself. Imagine he comes out at hit H Singh for 3 sixes and then everyone goes on a rampage sammy could bat, for me I would of accepted 18 runs from 80 balls rather than 3. This same team can beat any team in the world but we need a captain who is technical, motivational and inspirational and the only person that has this proven capability is Ganga. Nobody cares about CEO hilaire and his ego. WI fans want to see Gayle but because of his egotistic behaviour we have not seen Gayle for 2 entire series. CEO hiliare please note that you are easily replaceable but Gayle is not so sort out WI team issues or resign.

  • pr3m on July 3, 2011, 13:20 GMT

    Only better for India. The new batsmen have showed amply that they lack quality and application. Another new player in place of Sarwan can only mean an easy wicket at 3 for India in the next game. Instead of doing everything to get Gayle back, WICB is hellbent on shooting itself on it's last foot standing.

  • Windies_will_rise on July 3, 2011, 13:16 GMT

    When was Sarwan considered a matchwinner? As a WI supporter I have never supported Sarwan. Its true that every once in a while he shows glimpses of his potential but thats not good enough. To me the most memories Ive had with Sarwan is him getting injured. Ive seen primary school children with better resolve. People give him so much praise based on his potential, but he's probably the only athlete in history that constantly makes the same mistake in every match he plays. West Indies is better of without him. I cant see what positive influence he's having on the younger guys. Same as Gayle. What an embarrassment to WI cricket!

  • on July 3, 2011, 12:49 GMT

    SARS our star isn't starry anymore. He isn't mentally there. Gayle did hint that. But we can't afford to drop him at this juncture. Maybe the selectors don't think so. That would be sad.

  • CricketChat on July 3, 2011, 12:28 GMT

    WI selectors have been patient with Sarwan this season. Even though he made couple of painstaking 50s in the ODIs recently, he looks woefully out of form. Test cricket is not where you hope to find form. He needs practice matches to work on his technique and state of mind. He and Chanderpaul should be dropped from 3rd test.

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:27 GMT

    Sarwan's poor performance coincides with the appointment Ottis Gibson as the West Indies coach. Just as Chris Gayle said in his interview, Ottis really mess with his psyche therefore his hasn't been the same since. I think WI need to let Ottis Gibson go. He hasn't done anything for WI cricket. I am many other WI fans support Sarwan....he is a proven match winner and he deserves an opportunity to work through whatever issues he is dealing with. Go WI and Sarwan!!!

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:04 GMT

    I Feel that WI need an independent committee that know cricket, to review the cricket performace, The worth of the board, and recommandations to move forward. At this time WI would probably struggle against Bermuda... Hope to see WI batsmen scoring runs soon, bowlers keep up the good work...

  • Vindaliew on July 3, 2011, 8:30 GMT

    I'd persevere with Sarwan. It's not as if there are hordes of talented young batsmen in form queuing up and being left out. Bringing anyone in, like keeping Sarwan, is just a gamble, and at his age, Sarwan is definitely nowhere near his sell-by date. It's very frustrating, but to lay the responsibility of the West Indian poor batting solely at his feet is not fair, nor wise. Nobody in the top six has looked like a real proper class player consistently, and dare I say, not even Gayle does.

  • on July 3, 2011, 8:13 GMT

    Bring back Chris Gayle, why persist with a batsman who is out of form? Chris Gayle had a great IPL and will definitely tear the Indian bowlers apart. Politics in cricket is stupid. He and Barath will make a great opening combination. Simmons is a joke, can't bat at all against quality opposition, not even weak opposition. Nash was dropped because he was out of form, I believe a bangladesh test team could easily beat this West Indian team. Chanderpaul should step up, the bowlers especially Edwards have made a significant contribution except for the shoddy batsmen. If it wasn't for the bowlers West Indies will most likely to be rolled by an innings defeat in every match.

  • bismoy on July 3, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    What about Sammy?? what he done in entire series??

    How can Sammy became a national team captain having talent of school level cricket??

    god can Save WI Cricket,with Sammy being captain.

  • on July 3, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    no mention that he got out to good deliveries..had that a non indian whould have got him out, they would have hailed it as a set up..now sarwans and the entire windies batting has been exposed..same would be with the english also..moving balls n rising delivries..

  • rama_krish on July 3, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    In labour relations there is a strategy referred to as "constructive dismissal" which works like this: create conditions so difficult that an employee is unable to function effectively, leading to his frustration and disenchantment with his position. At this point, accuse him of not performing "up to standard" and relieve him of responsibilities. WICB has done this with Gayle, Taylor, Ramdin, until recently, Edwards and, in the days ahead, Chanderpaul and Sarwan. That way, they will rid themselves of the seniors move ahead with a team of international underachievers led by Sammy. Expect continued poor performances form Bharath, Simmons and Bravo DM. As a West Indies supporter, I look forward to the team getting thrashed by Ireland which is coached by none other than Phil Simmons

  • on July 3, 2011, 6:50 GMT

    Sarwan seems mentally off -- not sure why. I wonder if WICB has been messing with his head more than we read about. WI needs batsmen like Sarwan.

  • boston_pride on July 3, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    If theres someone who needs to be dropped... its Mr. Captain n Mr. Ottis Who... people like Gayle, Sarwan n Chanderpaul are proven matchwinners... so they get a longer rope than say Simmons... You cant drop all your experienced players n go with an Under-19 team or something... You build a team with a core of experienced players guiding youngsters... Like Holding n Bishop always say 'if only WI could get their best team on paper on the field everytime, they'd be more than competetive'.

  • donda on July 3, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    There is no need to push pressure on a senior player in WI . WI should give him some time and let him settle down.

    He still have 5 years left in him to serve WI and i hope that he will play well in last match because that can be his last match too.

    So watch for Sarwan in last match he will do something .

  • rockdworldxi on July 3, 2011, 5:34 GMT

    drop ramnaresh sarwan for the third test and bring dwayne bravo back n axe darren sammy frm captaincy n make a youngster like darren bravo the captain and build a young team with barath,samuels,darren bravo,pollard,bishoo,rampaul,edwards,simmons,jerome taylor, andre russell, carlton baugh and couple of senior players like chris gayle n darren bravo in the side to guide the youngsters

  • on July 3, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    I think in West Indies every cricketer feels insecure including Cris Gayle. It is true with Sarwan too...............

  • khalekk on July 3, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    He will be back! Just give him another chance.

  • Manjunath_Ramarao on July 3, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    Please proof-read it properly, The line "In this Test series, however, the pressure appears to have got to hum" culminates with 'hum' instead of him. Otherwise a timely article on sarwan's form which is handicapping the WI's performance in the recent times.

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  • Manjunath_Ramarao on July 3, 2011, 5:14 GMT

    Please proof-read it properly, The line "In this Test series, however, the pressure appears to have got to hum" culminates with 'hum' instead of him. Otherwise a timely article on sarwan's form which is handicapping the WI's performance in the recent times.

  • khalekk on July 3, 2011, 5:17 GMT

    He will be back! Just give him another chance.

  • on July 3, 2011, 5:31 GMT

    I think in West Indies every cricketer feels insecure including Cris Gayle. It is true with Sarwan too...............

  • rockdworldxi on July 3, 2011, 5:34 GMT

    drop ramnaresh sarwan for the third test and bring dwayne bravo back n axe darren sammy frm captaincy n make a youngster like darren bravo the captain and build a young team with barath,samuels,darren bravo,pollard,bishoo,rampaul,edwards,simmons,jerome taylor, andre russell, carlton baugh and couple of senior players like chris gayle n darren bravo in the side to guide the youngsters

  • donda on July 3, 2011, 6:21 GMT

    There is no need to push pressure on a senior player in WI . WI should give him some time and let him settle down.

    He still have 5 years left in him to serve WI and i hope that he will play well in last match because that can be his last match too.

    So watch for Sarwan in last match he will do something .

  • boston_pride on July 3, 2011, 6:27 GMT

    If theres someone who needs to be dropped... its Mr. Captain n Mr. Ottis Who... people like Gayle, Sarwan n Chanderpaul are proven matchwinners... so they get a longer rope than say Simmons... You cant drop all your experienced players n go with an Under-19 team or something... You build a team with a core of experienced players guiding youngsters... Like Holding n Bishop always say 'if only WI could get their best team on paper on the field everytime, they'd be more than competetive'.

  • on July 3, 2011, 6:50 GMT

    Sarwan seems mentally off -- not sure why. I wonder if WICB has been messing with his head more than we read about. WI needs batsmen like Sarwan.

  • rama_krish on July 3, 2011, 7:04 GMT

    In labour relations there is a strategy referred to as "constructive dismissal" which works like this: create conditions so difficult that an employee is unable to function effectively, leading to his frustration and disenchantment with his position. At this point, accuse him of not performing "up to standard" and relieve him of responsibilities. WICB has done this with Gayle, Taylor, Ramdin, until recently, Edwards and, in the days ahead, Chanderpaul and Sarwan. That way, they will rid themselves of the seniors move ahead with a team of international underachievers led by Sammy. Expect continued poor performances form Bharath, Simmons and Bravo DM. As a West Indies supporter, I look forward to the team getting thrashed by Ireland which is coached by none other than Phil Simmons

  • on July 3, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    no mention that he got out to good deliveries..had that a non indian whould have got him out, they would have hailed it as a set up..now sarwans and the entire windies batting has been exposed..same would be with the english also..moving balls n rising delivries..

  • bismoy on July 3, 2011, 7:58 GMT

    What about Sammy?? what he done in entire series??

    How can Sammy became a national team captain having talent of school level cricket??

    god can Save WI Cricket,with Sammy being captain.