West Indies v India, 2nd Test, Bridgetown, 5th day July 2, 2011

No reason to be frustrated - Dhoni

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India needed three West Indian wickets in about 11 overs when bad light forced the Barbados Test to be abandoned. The loss of Darren Bravo and Darren Sammy in quick succession, gave India the advantage at that late stage, but they couldn't press on because of the conditions. MS Dhoni has said that he would have loved to have had those extra overs, but his team weren't too disappointed that they couldn't force a result. "We are not disappointed, because it [the draw] happened due to things that are beyond our control, like rain and bad light," he said. "We wanted to bowl around 80 overs, but unfortunately we were not able to do so. But we tried our best, so there's no reason to be frustrated."

The game could have meandered towards a dull draw if Dhoni hadn't declared in the morning. He is not known for generous third-innings declarations: his previous declarations have set oppositions targets of 516, 403 and 617. So why did he choose to declare today at that stage? "It is a difficult target to achieve, if you are batting for around 80 overs to get around 280 runs," Dhoni said. "The outfield was also very slow, so we thought that was a good enough target and that's why we declared.

"You will not know how much rain you going to get during the course of the game, so we thought 80 overs are enough to bowl the opposition out. We started with an attacking field straightway, and that's why they got a few boundaries initially. That's why we thought of 280 and didn't declare at 240, so that we can have close-in fielders for those extra five-six overs."

West Indies lost three quick wickets at the start, before they rallied through a 54-run partnership between Darren Bravo and Shivnarine Chanderpaul, and then a 69-run stand between Bravo and Carlton Baugh. At one stage, West Indies needed 100 runs from 18.3 overs when rain intervened. Was Dhoni worried then? "It was pretty balanced then. They were five down, and we needed just two more wickets. We got them towards the end, and from that point it would have been difficult for them to get 70-80 runs. So the declaration was a right decision."

Dhoni had words of praise for Ishant Sharma who made that declaration look really good with a four-wicket haul. "Right from IPL, Ishant has been bowling well. If you look at his performance in the IPL, he was doing everything right - like the seam position - and he has been pitching the ball in the right areas, that's why he's able to get pace and bounce. The time he spent with Zaheer Khan has been very useful for him, because Zaheer has shared his experience with him."

On a day where India pushed hard for a series victory, some youngsters learnt that they were dropped from the squad that will begin to tour England later this month. That couldn't have been easy situation to handle for the captain, in the middle of a Test… "That's a difficult one, because we need to interact with the players to see what's happening with them and make sure they are not bogged down," Dhoni said. "Selection is really not in their hands. But they [those who are dropped] need to take positives out of a series or match, and go back and work on their game."

Sriram Veera is a staff writer at ESPNcricinfo

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  • maddy20 on July 5, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    @Godfrey Pieters If not for the rain, India would have played calmly and declared at 400 as Dhoni usually does and as always WI would struggle to get to 250. Mark my words, if there's no rain in Roseau, even god can't save WI!

  • veerakannadiga on July 5, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    thank you god almighty, some of these crazies who are bashing dravid, without knowing an iota of what cricket is all about, more so being ignorant of the selfless attitude of dravid, unlike his more famous (selfish) collegeues, are not blaming him for the rain that caused the draw.

  • on July 5, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    @RaviDarira : I am not asking to change professions just saying each player has a role in the team, and Dravids is to play anchor. Regarding ODI's and test matches, they are two completely different arenas. There is a reason why test matches are played over 5 days. They TEST each player, and any weakness in his batting or bowling will be exposed, unlike in ODI or 20/20. You are asking for a win, in 3 days of playing test cricket, a bit much dont u think?

    Before making such comments take into account the conditions, which was a slow and muggy outfield, and finally look at the strike rate of other batsmen in the same innings (which for you is more important than scoring runs) Virat Kholi M Vijay and even the Great MS Dhoni had a lower strike rate than Dravid, while scoring less runs than him. All three of them faced 90 balls in the first innings and 142 balls in the second innings. Hope this gives you a better understanding, much easier with numbers/stats :)

  • on July 5, 2011, 0:57 GMT

    @kumarcoolbuddy,Will stand by my comments. Before the rains came it was advantage WI. Shiv's innings was down right negative and not match saving as u call it. The req'd RR to win the match was 3.38. IT was too early in .the piece to close up shop. That was playing with danger.Shiv is 2 much a skillful & experience batter to score at .85 runs/ov. When BAUGH & BRAVO were batting before the rains came many WI fans felt we had a chance to win. Baugh's positive approach was a concern to the INDIANS. Shiv will have to come real good in the final test to save his place in the WI team. U R the expert.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 4, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    @Godfrey Pieters, it doesn't harsh but shows ur ignorance of cricket. WI team would also laugh when u said SHIV and rain saved India from defeat. SHIV was the player who was trying his best to draw the match when INDIA was in winning position. And rain has nothing to do with last 2 wickets loss of WI. INDIA was almost winning the match and sudden bad light was real unfortunate for INDIA.

  • swayambu on July 4, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    It is apparent that Harbajan Singh-s performance and bowling have alarmingly dipped.His sporadic success in batting has made him lose sight of the important fact that his presence is more as a strike bowler. His body language on the field is always sloppy. It will be good to rest him for a series or two and blood in new players like Ashwin or Abdullah

  • on July 4, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    @Dhruv Makkad : so asking a batsman with 10k runs, so called great batsman to play a little faster "LITTLE FASTER" not at a strike rate of 100, just about 50 like VVS iis asking him to change his profession? and to your what ifs, i have heard that before in the ODIs as well when he use to play slow after 1 wicket because 'what if' another wicket falls, thats a negative mindset, which does not get you a win. I can bet if he played in the wc finals we would have lost because after sehwags wicket he would have held up one end, but the asking rate woud hav been out of control...this has happened many times, glad it only happens in test matches now...

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on July 4, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    get rid of Harbhajan..he is the weakest player in the team..he talks tooo much but when it comes to performance in ground he is the last person...when was the last time India won a test match bcoz of Harbhajan????

  • on July 4, 2011, 14:04 GMT

    Dravid has failed miserably for the last 5 years in Test (please don't reply with his only knock against lowly WI). He is the most over rated sportsman ever, still there are people who support him and some even compare him to Sachin. All he tries to do is get his runs and not think about team's need. Even if he realizes the teams needs he is incapable of really doing anything beneficial. All his supporters point out that his batting (or lack of) allows other players to score? Why do you supporters think he was thrown out of the ODI? He has a history of not playing according to the situation. I hope he is dropped!

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 4, 2011, 12:55 GMT

    Some ppl say Dravid, Laxman are selfish. Some other say Dhoni shudn't have declared so early. Some more ppl say India wud have lost if rain had not interrupted the match. These are all funny comments from ppl without any knowledge of cricket and who just want to win their country sitting on other side of TV. Especially ppl who say Dravid and Laxman are selfish. Remember this is test match and playing in WI. They are trying their best to make their home pitches as bouncy as possible to suit their bowling conditions.

  • maddy20 on July 5, 2011, 11:06 GMT

    @Godfrey Pieters If not for the rain, India would have played calmly and declared at 400 as Dhoni usually does and as always WI would struggle to get to 250. Mark my words, if there's no rain in Roseau, even god can't save WI!

  • veerakannadiga on July 5, 2011, 10:00 GMT

    thank you god almighty, some of these crazies who are bashing dravid, without knowing an iota of what cricket is all about, more so being ignorant of the selfless attitude of dravid, unlike his more famous (selfish) collegeues, are not blaming him for the rain that caused the draw.

  • on July 5, 2011, 2:09 GMT

    @RaviDarira : I am not asking to change professions just saying each player has a role in the team, and Dravids is to play anchor. Regarding ODI's and test matches, they are two completely different arenas. There is a reason why test matches are played over 5 days. They TEST each player, and any weakness in his batting or bowling will be exposed, unlike in ODI or 20/20. You are asking for a win, in 3 days of playing test cricket, a bit much dont u think?

    Before making such comments take into account the conditions, which was a slow and muggy outfield, and finally look at the strike rate of other batsmen in the same innings (which for you is more important than scoring runs) Virat Kholi M Vijay and even the Great MS Dhoni had a lower strike rate than Dravid, while scoring less runs than him. All three of them faced 90 balls in the first innings and 142 balls in the second innings. Hope this gives you a better understanding, much easier with numbers/stats :)

  • on July 5, 2011, 0:57 GMT

    @kumarcoolbuddy,Will stand by my comments. Before the rains came it was advantage WI. Shiv's innings was down right negative and not match saving as u call it. The req'd RR to win the match was 3.38. IT was too early in .the piece to close up shop. That was playing with danger.Shiv is 2 much a skillful & experience batter to score at .85 runs/ov. When BAUGH & BRAVO were batting before the rains came many WI fans felt we had a chance to win. Baugh's positive approach was a concern to the INDIANS. Shiv will have to come real good in the final test to save his place in the WI team. U R the expert.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 4, 2011, 20:23 GMT

    @Godfrey Pieters, it doesn't harsh but shows ur ignorance of cricket. WI team would also laugh when u said SHIV and rain saved India from defeat. SHIV was the player who was trying his best to draw the match when INDIA was in winning position. And rain has nothing to do with last 2 wickets loss of WI. INDIA was almost winning the match and sudden bad light was real unfortunate for INDIA.

  • swayambu on July 4, 2011, 16:38 GMT

    It is apparent that Harbajan Singh-s performance and bowling have alarmingly dipped.His sporadic success in batting has made him lose sight of the important fact that his presence is more as a strike bowler. His body language on the field is always sloppy. It will be good to rest him for a series or two and blood in new players like Ashwin or Abdullah

  • on July 4, 2011, 15:44 GMT

    @Dhruv Makkad : so asking a batsman with 10k runs, so called great batsman to play a little faster "LITTLE FASTER" not at a strike rate of 100, just about 50 like VVS iis asking him to change his profession? and to your what ifs, i have heard that before in the ODIs as well when he use to play slow after 1 wicket because 'what if' another wicket falls, thats a negative mindset, which does not get you a win. I can bet if he played in the wc finals we would have lost because after sehwags wicket he would have held up one end, but the asking rate woud hav been out of control...this has happened many times, glad it only happens in test matches now...

  • Crazy_Cricket_Fan on July 4, 2011, 15:01 GMT

    get rid of Harbhajan..he is the weakest player in the team..he talks tooo much but when it comes to performance in ground he is the last person...when was the last time India won a test match bcoz of Harbhajan????

  • on July 4, 2011, 14:04 GMT

    Dravid has failed miserably for the last 5 years in Test (please don't reply with his only knock against lowly WI). He is the most over rated sportsman ever, still there are people who support him and some even compare him to Sachin. All he tries to do is get his runs and not think about team's need. Even if he realizes the teams needs he is incapable of really doing anything beneficial. All his supporters point out that his batting (or lack of) allows other players to score? Why do you supporters think he was thrown out of the ODI? He has a history of not playing according to the situation. I hope he is dropped!

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 4, 2011, 12:55 GMT

    Some ppl say Dravid, Laxman are selfish. Some other say Dhoni shudn't have declared so early. Some more ppl say India wud have lost if rain had not interrupted the match. These are all funny comments from ppl without any knowledge of cricket and who just want to win their country sitting on other side of TV. Especially ppl who say Dravid and Laxman are selfish. Remember this is test match and playing in WI. They are trying their best to make their home pitches as bouncy as possible to suit their bowling conditions.

  • on July 4, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    it appears that people here more know cricket than the players..then why those who are commenting here that this should have been done go and tell to BCCI that take us in the team..it was clear that 123 overs were lost..that costed india this match..otherwise, windies would have to score more than 350 runs,this was sure..and the match would have been over in 4 days..so much so that this is not the real eleven of indian team..hats off...

  • yatins11 on July 4, 2011, 6:44 GMT

    India are no doubt the no 1 team in the world (they are not as dominating as WI of 70s and Australia of late 90s and early 2000). The reason other countries dont think likewise is because we ourselves are not united. Lot of us think we are only good on paper. Shame on you guys ( Like Ravi, nicky dude) who think the match was drawn because of Dravid or Laxman and we are no 1 only paper. These guys are legends and know the conditions and pitch better than us. Had they got out early trying to accelerate I wonder what the result would have been. guys all the Indians its a request please support your country and team we are the best in the world and lets prove it.

  • Valavan on July 4, 2011, 5:43 GMT

    More frustration wait for Dhoni at Roseau, Dominica. July 6 - July 10 predicted thunderstorms and shower in dominica,so India will hence win the series 1 - 0.

  • on July 4, 2011, 5:32 GMT

    @Ravi Darira : finally, before bashing Dravids strike rate, imagine the conditions they are playing in, the outfield is thick, the grass covered in water, therefore making runs rather hard to come by. 55runs on this outfield would probably equate to much more on a dry, crisp outfield, where a simple nudge would send the ball rocketing to the boundary. The only way to get a boundary on this Barbados venue, would be to take the aerial route or to spank the ball as hard as you could along the ground.

  • Tamil_SL on July 4, 2011, 5:27 GMT

    India needs to buckup its bowling, if they expect to make any impact in England. SL has gone through the tests in England, maybe some advice from Dilshan will come handy. All the best to team India.

  • on July 4, 2011, 4:10 GMT

    @Ravi Darira : So you are basically asking someone in marketing to do an engineers job (Shewag being the marketing guy, cos he is a flasher and dasher, Dravid being the steady hand, who builds an innings from scratch). Agreed a quicker strike rate could have given the edge, but look at the other side of the coin. What would have happened if Dravid went for a quicker strike rate, lost his wicket, India would face the prospect of losing a game. Which I honestly think would be the case if anyone else was picked in the team apart from Dravid. So let the legend do what he does best.

    The other point I would like to make is, that it is very hard for any team to dismiss a international team twice, and post a decent total that is defendable in three and a half days. The fact Dhoni and his men got so close is commendable. Test #3 awaits, hope Dravid shines again.

  • smudgeon on July 4, 2011, 2:37 GMT

    Hopefully after his performance in the Windies, Ishant will be an automatic selection for the England tour. Zaheer aside, India's quality quicks are pretty thin on the ground, and Ishant bowls with a bit of fire, plus he's still developing.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 3, 2011, 22:47 GMT

    @Nashty, can't agree more. Just imagine if Dravid dropped that sitter. All the calculations as to how India lost some points in ICC rankings and this is because of that 'selfish' Dravid and all. Why is it hard to see? Just like how we won after Sammy dropped a sitter, we got a draw as a result of Dhoni dropping a sitter. I don't see any sense in the blatant Dravid bashing. People don't seem to have much pride in doing some research and then coming up with their conclusions. What's worse is people not only fail to pinpoint turning points but jump onto totally irrelevant issue as the turning point of the match. What if Dravid, Kohli, Vijay and Raina went in a heap with a collective strike-rate of 50 within 6-10 overs?

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on July 3, 2011, 22:29 GMT

    @Mopsy, do some calculations. Those somebody else faced nearly 23 overs to score 39 runs after Dravid left. Wow!!! so much for Windies feeling happy with Dravid and so much for letting somebody else to come in and score quickly. Who stopped those somebody to score fast? Must be Dhoni and the conditions I guess. Watch the match properly before coming up with braindead bashing.

  • m_ilind on July 3, 2011, 22:04 GMT

    Dhoni certainly was not entertaining a sporting declaration on the fifth day, it's just that 3 wickets had fallen with VVS missing out on a ton, and only 39 runs were scored in an hour. Edwards was on fire, and who knows how much longer Indian innings would have lasted. If MS had a target in mind, he should have pushed for scoring runs more quickly on the fourth day. As it turns out WI may be much lower ranked team than India but getting any team out in 80 overs is putting your bowling under lot of pressure. Again, Bhajji did not fire, and it was left to Ishant to do all the work. It turned out to be an interesting draw in the end. Full marks to Ishant for the way he has come back.

  • on July 3, 2011, 21:54 GMT

    dhoni drops baugh match is drawn not because of Dravid... end of story ...and may i know when will dhoni make some runs??

  • SRT_GENIUS on July 3, 2011, 21:49 GMT

    @Sumeet.Gupta/D.Sharma: Well said!

  • on July 3, 2011, 21:47 GMT

    I see a lot of comparisn with Australia going on and Dhoni takes the brunt for it. Would that Australian team or that WI team have given the windies more time? Probably. Does this Indian team have Holding, Garner, Mcgrath or Warne? It doesn't. But when you have three bowlers playing who till recently didn't even feature in your eleven you better think again. People keep forgetting, this isn't even the India 11. 4 of the seven players that make the core of that team aren't playing. Factor that in. It's not like Aus or WI never drew a test. The hallmark of a champion team is that you give them a sniff and they take the match. The sixth wicket was the sniff and rest assured, they would have taken those last three even without Zak. Winning is a habit and it's a habit this team is forming. As fans, it's time we start behaving like that fans of a champion team. It rained, the batted well on the last day, we're missing 4 main players, we still should have won, we didn't, get over it

  • nlambda on July 3, 2011, 21:19 GMT

    Truth is that the pitch was not easy and Indian batsmen were never in control. Dravid's batting was slow... but then Kohli came out and scored 0 off 16 balls, 25 off 97 balls while I was watching. He was clearly not comfortable and was trying to survive rather than push on. Dhoni was not comfortable either. I think if these guys had tried going for their shots the team would not have reached 200... sad but we were *never* in a dominating position in this match.

  • on July 3, 2011, 19:33 GMT

    @sachin86,... Hope you know that this not limited overs cricket, if not read further. Check the tour record to know the fact that, only match Ind won was managed with fantastic performance from Dravid.

  • on July 3, 2011, 19:22 GMT

    @ Ravi Darira! Dude.. Go enjoy your quickfire 30s off 15 balls in the IPL! Criticising RD & VVS after proving that they are the men among the Boys in WIndies just proves that your cricket brain power is that of a snail..and definitely not RD and VVS's batting! RD and VVS are the highest scores till now overall in this Test Series with averages of 53 and 46 respectively.. Do you know what an Average is? Or are you just aware of the Strike Rate.. Which btw of Virat Kohli is 26! Of Mukund 41 and that of Vijay 20! Dravid's Strike Rate is 40 and VVS's is 50!

  • on July 3, 2011, 18:20 GMT

    I think it is unfair to blame anybody. If Dravid got out the whole of the indian batting could have fallen like a pack of cards because apart from Dravid and Laxman nobody in the batting line up looked test class. I can not recall Dhoni blaming Dravid or anybody else. Fact of the matter was that 130 over were lost due to rain if not India would have won in three and a half days.

  • MasterClass on July 3, 2011, 18:04 GMT

    Many ppl have made negative comments that this series showed what will happen once the seniors retire. While I was a bit disappointed in the youngster's performance, I think they showed enough to give plenty of hope. Mukund battled hard, Virat was unsettled initially but then played well in tough conditions, Vijay looked good but gave away his wickets AND also had bad luck (shooters), Raina looked solid and most of all ISHANT showed why he's worth his weight in gold. The pace spearhead title is his and he's only 22! WOW!! And we've not even had a chance to see Pujura who lookd really good against Aus and solid in SA.

  • shrastogi on July 3, 2011, 17:45 GMT

    WI would not have scored 280 in 80 overs in those conditions so that was as good a declaration as asking opposition to get 360 runs on last day ?Is Munaf Patel in the team to get advise from youngsters. His injuries did compound problems for Indians as Mithun would take time to learn tricks of trade. Munaf is there for England tour and hopefully is not a mere passenger there blocking a youngsters place. Though Dhoni had been given wrongly out twice he needs to bat well on difficult pitches as well. This pitch at Barbados was not conducive to stroke play. Dogged defence was needed where Dhoni didnt inspire confidence. Parthiv Patel is not in team for England and one would like to see him as opener in place of Vijay. Hopefully a decent pitch would be there in the last test.

  • shailesh.shailu1 on July 3, 2011, 17:06 GMT

    @Ravi Darira, for your information in 2009, Dravid averages around 86. It's only in 2007 and 2008 that his average dipped, that too not as low as 30, around 42-43 which is still good, but that's not what you expect from Dravid is it? And you blame Dravid for the loss. What about Dhoni's dropped catch? What about Harbhajan's inability to pickup wickets, being the most experienced bowler out there. These thing's are easily forgotten aren't they? And if you think batting technique is not important, then what are all these cricket coaching camps teaching young cricketers????? Stop making some gross incorrect statements to vent out your frustration. If you don't like Dravid, well then that's too bad for you, because he is one of the best batsman ever!

  • D.Sharma on July 3, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    @sachin86.. I also see you didn't blame Kohli, Raina or Dhoni who faced a total of 25 overs and scored 44 runs. Please do some research before bashing Dravid, thanks!

  • D.Sharma on July 3, 2011, 16:43 GMT

    @sachin86.. Dravid isn't stupid. If the team needed quicker runs, he would have gone for them. In fact, Dravid should be the last person whom we all should be commenting on when it comes to "playing for the team" as he's the only one who has done it for his entire career. It was obviously Dhoni's call to stay in for a while, and Dravid listened.

  • Mopsy on July 3, 2011, 16:23 GMT

    West Indies team thanks the great wall of india for scoring a great 50 at a strike rate of 32 against probably the worlds worst test playing country, draw would not have been possible if he had got out earlier allowing some one else to come and score quicker and declare earlier!!

  • Sumeet.Gupta on July 3, 2011, 15:52 GMT

    to all those who are criticizing Dravid, probably test matches are not your cup of tea. You must wait for the next season of IPL. If anyone, it could have been Kohli who could have played a little more aggressively on 4th evening. But then, he's out of form and low on confidence. To expect him to be a little more aggressive would be doing injustice to him. All in all, a good match. Would have been nice to win. But you would expect rain to play a part in a series being played in July. Remember India's last tour there? Easily could have won 3-0. Instead won 1-0.

  • on July 3, 2011, 15:48 GMT

    Might sound a bit harsh, but SHIV & and the rain saved India from defeat. 100r in 18.3 ovs with 5 wks in hand is achievable in any form of cricket, even against India.Yes it is test cricket. Yes we were in a tight position when Shiv came in. But 12rs in 14.5ovs., and a match to win? 12rs in a partnership 54,with a sr of13.79. Give me a break. And then came the rains, that broke concentration & momentum which created pressure. Fine effort from WI.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 3, 2011, 15:36 GMT

    @sachin86 I can give you a number of instances when sachin had literally consumed deliveries for days(not just when we needed a draw).You have to remember at what point of time dravid came in and how the pitch was behaving . Definitely we do not want a repeat of the first innings i would rather take 230 for 3 than 230 all out at the end of day because it still gave us a chance to win the match. BTW you can guess by name i too am a fan of sachin. But leave dravid a side my friend. INDIA needs him.

  • bluecrystal on July 3, 2011, 15:35 GMT

    Some of the fans here seem quite satisfied with this draw. Someone even asked why Dhoni was pushing his bowlers so hard to force a win? Are they aware of the fact that India HAD to win this series 3-0 in order not to lose any points in the ICC Test rankings? Now that they have drawn this match, they will be LOSING points in the Test rankings even if they go on to win the series 2-0. That's because WI is considered way below India's rankings. Yes, the way the ranking points are calculated is absurd. I am surprised this issue was not rectified in the recent ICC meeting.

  • hellraiser9 on July 3, 2011, 15:27 GMT

    Indian team did very well to bowl out WI team for paltry 190 in first innings thanks to deadly ishanth and then in the 2nd innings Indian team had many interruptions with atleast 3 days of play left and one whole day was washed out. it must have been difficult for batsman to concentrate ON and OFF even though they are experienced. And that pitch wasnt at its best. So batsman did like Dravid we all know he is like an anchor just kept one end tight for 170 balls for his half century, this could have been little faster. Laxman's 87 came 188 and he wasnt fast either but situation demanded such knock. It is wrong to blame Dravid at the same time Indian team could have had 30 to 40 runs more. It was brave and aggressive decision to declare with 80 over & WI had slight sniff.Dhoni proved he is greatest captain and 281 proved OK. Draw is justified as Chanders got bad decision. Dhoni did excellent job as captain making THIS indian team look competitive. India will Win next test, series.

  • kumarcoolbuddy on July 3, 2011, 15:12 GMT

    What Dhoni did is right. Being a captain there will be 100 things going on in his mind. So some kind of risk will be there everytime u take a decision. Take some risks and try to win. Only risk in yesterday's declaration was "What if WI bats extra-ordinarily". On this kind of pitch and weather. Dhoni wud have been criticized more if he had not declared. I was happy when declared. It had shown good winning spirit in him and not being defensive everytime.

  • Nashty on July 3, 2011, 14:01 GMT

    There is so many reasons for the Draw..But as Always the blame goes to Dravid's Slow Batting..Indeed Dravid Batted @strike rate of 32 But Look at Virat's Strike rate Its 26 and at the time Dravid got out even Laxman's strike rate is around 30..and look at Raina & Doni's Strike Rate...But alwyas Dravid is the Scape Goat.But Nobody mentioned about Dhoni Droping Baugh when he is on 0..Still 29 overs to be bowled and nearly 150 runs to be made at that point.That is the Turning point of the Match.If he Had that Catch india would have won the series..Bagh went on to score 46 notout and match ended in Draw.If Dravid Droped that Catch!!!!!.. Imagine???

  • Cruzan on July 3, 2011, 13:47 GMT

    While the 11 play in best possible way on the groud, millions sit pretty and pompously talk nonsense. Unless something very obvious we should take the game as it went. Great bold declaration by Dhoni . Match could have gone eiher way, Dhoni rocks Indeed.

  • on July 3, 2011, 13:36 GMT

    @RmIND @Dhruv Makkad

    I am not talking about overly aggressive batting, hitting sixes from dravid, all i am asking is that seeing the situation, have a positive mindset, a positive intent, a LITTLE faster, just a LITTLE faster would have made a big difference in this game. I dont think it is too much to ask for....

  • on July 3, 2011, 13:30 GMT

    This Test series is an eye-opener for cricket lovers back India. Im afraid what will happen once these old guns like Dravid or Laxman or Sachin or Shewag quit! There's no one who can step in their shoes.

  • on July 3, 2011, 13:25 GMT

    @ Shiva @ Dheeraj,

    1. I am not talking about hitting out sixes or playing a 20/20 innigs, I am talkin about the mindset to win....striket rate of 30 is unacceptable, even a strike rate of 50 from him would have saved 15 overs for us, or is strike rate of 50 is too much to ask from a 'great' batsman against world # 7, west indies's b attack?

    2. you are talking about the pitch??? carlton baugh on the last day could score runs faster, mukund who is new could score faster, are you saying that they are better batsman than dravid????

    Truth is that you guys are from a different era, of gavaskars, shastris, manjrekars and dravid....

  • sachin86 on July 3, 2011, 13:15 GMT

    Had dravid scored a little more quickly than he did the result would've been different.This is where sets apart the great batsmen from the good.They should be able to play according to the situation.Dravid,i'm afraid is just one dimensional and knows only to block.This is why he isn't regarded in the league of sachin-lara-ponting.

  • vishx on July 3, 2011, 13:05 GMT

    Dravid won the first test for India. It is silly to blame him for draw in the 2nd test. Those who do have such a short memory. They've forgotten his contribution in the first test. You have to appreciate that run scoring was not easy on the wicket and also give some credit to the WI bowlers. They also bowled to a 7-2 field, with suggested a very defensive ploy from WI. Between Vijay, Mukund, Kohli and Raina, there is a total experience of 25 tests (including the just concluded match at Barbados). Under these circumstances, Dravid's role as the anchor is all the more important. The first job was to protect the lead and then go for victory. That said, if India had scored 50-60 additional runs by end of day 4, we might have seen a result. By declaring when he did, Dhoni still gave the team a good chance of winning. Blame the lack of result on the weather.

  • SnowSnake on July 3, 2011, 13:00 GMT

    No reason to be frustrated because I am sure Dhoni realized that it was a mistake to declare at 280 because India could have lost the game before rain came in. After such a great fourth day and 1-0 series lead, there was no reason to take chances. Why was India taking chances on the last day? It was not like it was the last game and India was lagging. Why was Dhoni trying to put pressure on his bowlers? To me, this was a lucky escape for Dhoni. Had rain not intervened and WI batsmen continued, India may very well have lost 2nd test. Dhoni must be happy deep inside to have avoided a blunder.

  • Nampally on July 3, 2011, 12:53 GMT

    Harbhajan's continued poor bowling performance has cost India this match. If Mishra was playing instead, India would have had 2 strike bowlers in Ishant & Mishra. Kumar is good with the new ball but there after he is not a strike bowler. Mithun is inexperienced.Harbhajan is a shadow of the bowler he once was. It is about time india realizes that Harbhajan's era has come to an end. His inclusion in the team is robbing Ashwin his place as the Off spinner. Since India will play just one spinner + 3 pace men, again it will be Harbhajan who will displace Mishra in the XI. In the West Indies test, Bishoo literally made the ball talk with his huge leg spin. He got 3 wickets in the first innings and bowled superbly in the second. Harbhajan was swatted for sixers by a tail ender. His only LBW was questionable.I personally think Harbhajan should announce his retirement while he is still on top and let the more deserving spinners take over.That is a wise coup de grace.

  • CricketChat on July 3, 2011, 12:35 GMT

    Given so much time was lost due to bad weather, it was still a good game when a result seemed possible going into the last hour. I thought dropping Mishra for Mithun was not a good decision. WI were never great players of leg spin.

  • on July 3, 2011, 12:31 GMT

    Hats off to MS. Great captaincy. Tells u exactly what MS thinks of the WI team. MS was playing for a st victory. What was WI playing for? Ask SHIV. 12uns in 14.5 overs. Not surprising the umpire put him out.

  • chin-music on July 3, 2011, 12:18 GMT

    Dhoni & India have nobody to blame but themselves for failing to lose out this game. The complete lack of any attempt at trying to speed up a declaration on the 4th day - exmplifies why India is just #1 by points, but nowhere near the winning mentality of the old WI & Aus champion sides. I think Dhoni have every reason to feel rue their own timidity & lack of purpose.

  • D.Sharma on July 3, 2011, 12:08 GMT

    And also, with all respect to Sehwag, I doubt he would have played like he does in India in these weather and pitch conditions.

  • RmIND on July 3, 2011, 11:45 GMT

    @Ravi, I dont know why the hell Dravid is being blamed here....!!!! you forgot that when none of the Indians contributed in first test it is he who contributed....the if he cant score runs faster then why not big hitters like Raina or Dhoni can do it, it means that the pitch is doing little bot more that what Indian tracks are.........Scoring 50 in 170 odd balls?? that is what test cricket is all about dear..It is not a T20 game lol.. :)

  • on July 3, 2011, 11:29 GMT

    @Ravi Darira, I'm not sure if you watched the same series as i did but what Dravid does is absorbe the pressure, his role in the team is that of the anchor. He steadies the team. While wickets around him fall he constructs an innings, like a fine architect. If memmory serves me correctly, he won the first match of this series with a gritty 112. Yes it was slow, but a team needs balance. It would be rather silly to choose 6 batsmen that batted like shewag. Shewag too has his role, which is to set up the victory, by shredding the oppositions bowling attack, and is much more entertaining to watch, but dont be so naive/silly to discount what Dravid does.The Indian team needs THE WALL, and when he goes, I am sure they will leave no stone unturned to find someone that can craft an innings like he does. Lastly dont ever forget the hand he played vs Australia, when India were forced to follow on. It was the ipitomy of courage, concentration and execution, you will ever see on a cricket pitch

  • on July 3, 2011, 11:28 GMT

    Some of my friends in the comments section are all out there to criticise dhoni. seems they got all figured it out. what dhoni needs to do?,what should be the team strategies?. like many films critics they never go out and make movies. in this case played cricket.if u have you should be the ones playing their. its easy to say then done. dhoni is already one of the greats of our country. under his cap. we become no. 1 in test and world champions in odi and t20. he is one of the coolest heads in the world today.

  • Yashodar on July 3, 2011, 11:25 GMT

    Dhoni is as cool as always, patience is very important in cricket at some moment you everything the next moment you can loose all of it. I think they (India) should have played put 100 run after tee and could have declared, next day it will be easier for them take 10 wickets in such a slow outfield.

  • indian_glory on July 3, 2011, 11:23 GMT

    well it is very discomforting to see fans write against dravid and showing frustation over dhoni's decision and india not so aggresive intent.. guys u need to consider that india had a lead of 11 runs...india had lost an early wicket when dravid came into bat...the putch was doing lots...there was movement and bounce....he had to fight it and make sure that another wicket did not fall.....he had to secure india first rather than think about the runrate...even the middle order in kohli and dhoni were not ingr8 form so the onus ws onhim...secondly it was difficult to score runs in the morning when india were trying to force the issue...the ball was still nipping around...those who saw the match would agree that indan batsmen tried to up the anti...and thirdly dhoni made the perfect decision and it was the best time to declare...it kudnt have been better...and plzz...arent the politicians enough to fyt over india nd pak...why us...giv respect to gain respect...plzz ....

  • marmao on July 3, 2011, 11:05 GMT

    Dhoni is THE man. Just admire his ability to say meaningful things in any situation. Sometimes it feels as if he is meandering around and talking no sense but it all falls into place pretty much every single time. Hats off to Dhoni and England beware

  • ShilajitBava on July 3, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    Zak, Ish and PK for the first test for me! Raina must stay at No.6!

  • NoMeRcY-RaGE on July 3, 2011, 10:50 GMT

    aus_sore_losers-nice name...lol...anyways i completely agree with u that we will thrash the poms hard...they need all this spanking...they always r so over confident about playing at home...they wont believe the INDIAN storm coming their way...its gonna b fun

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:47 GMT

    No doubt that the Dhoni is great captain... @ Ravi Darira: Sir i think we should not blame Dravid for that it was a tough wicket to bat on and he came on the crease when India lost Murali Vijay early and blocked the falling of wickets from one end without loosing his wicket that helped Mukund and VVS Laxman building a good partnership that helped inidans to get a consolidate total of 269 don't forget in the first innings when Dravid got out early Indians got out on 200 but when stuck on crease that boosted the confidence of New guy Mukund.

    Talking about Sehwag tell me any wickets where it is always difficult to play strokes Sehwag played standalone on such pitches because he will require that temperament which Dravid has and don't ever compare Sehwag with Dravid and talking about technique and wins there were so many matches where Dravid took out team from trouble and won the matches with his best technique. Rahul Dravid is and Icon cricketer not Sehwag...

  • KALPANA. on July 3, 2011, 10:41 GMT

    Well,counting on everything... my personal view is that team India's effort was good enough. It was disappointing as well because India certainly could have batted with a higher run-rate on day-4. @Rahul Davira.... Mr. Rahul, every team needs a Sehwag and a Dravid too. Only then you can call it a complete team. Dravid has become a bit too defensive of late and that is because of too much pressure to stay and perform. This is the last stage of his career and he must play freely. And one last thing.. Someone asked me if Dhoni would have declared on 280 had Gayle been playing..?? My guess was NO. The match would have then ended in a certain draw.

  • nickydude on July 3, 2011, 10:40 GMT

    Whatever crap u say, Mr. Dhoni, we've every reason to be frustrated, cuz yest itself all fans knew that u were playing for a draw, when you let Dravid & Laxman occupy the crease for ages, even for harmless deliveries. That is the difference bet India & Australia, eventhough we are no. 1 on paper.

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:38 GMT

    Mr ravi darira, don't blame dravid, this was not a flat wicket where u can play flamboyant shots, if not for dravids innings india would have lost the match.

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    @ravi:did u see the pitch in which the match was played??????wen india tried to accelerate they lost 4 wickets in 7 odd ovrs think wat wuld hav happened if he had accelerated and had got out india wuld hav lost the match!!!!!!

  • Notredam on July 3, 2011, 10:26 GMT

    best captain ever to lead india..26 played..as captain,,,15 won,,3 lost and 8 draw and check those 8 drawn as wel..india had upper hand in those 5-6 out of 8 also..so really dhoni has transpired success for team india..what a legend..

  • CricEshwar on July 3, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    It was a decent match and Dhoni is groomed enough not to talk his emotions in a press conference. India could've batted a bit more aggressively so we could dominate as the no. 1 side should and forced a result. Had Sachin been there in the match, tantrums would've been all around that he batted for the records. It is one thing to be important to spend Y overs and get X runs strategically to be in a safe position and quite another to not be able to dominate a side practically clinging on to it's last hook on the test status.

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 3, 2011, 10:11 GMT

    some comments here about dravid make me laugh. I am not ablind supported but do we remember what happened in the first innings? If dravid got out cheaply then it will put extra pressure on other batsmen and they too will try to kill the time (batsmen like dhoni and kholi are too known for their time eating skills). But wait if you need just 50 runs more extra why couldn't we get that in the final day? They tried and got some quick runs and got out in the process (kholi, laxman,dhoni). What if they had tried this much earlier and bundled out for 230 odd.Then you will blame that they couldn't bat for the whole day. If we had got the full quota on final day we would have better chances of winning. That said we have no reason to be frustrated. I see one positive in mukunds innings. Looks promising.Gud luck

  • aus_sore_losers on July 3, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    Captain Cool spot on... we are ready to take on poms, bring on anything poms... Ishant alongwith ever deadly Zak and Shrisanth will destroy their mediocre batting...then you will see the difference between SL and India, and also SL will learn a thing or two from us on how to play outside the subcontinent..lol

  • on July 3, 2011, 9:17 GMT

    Every reason to be frustrated! Not with the weather, but with rahul dravid who took up 170 balls and batted like a snail!!! If he is so great as his fans make out to be why could he not take the initiative and score quicker??? His batting is really painful to watch in any game. Against a weakened west indies, this was a golden opportunity to win the series. His defensive mindset does not have space in the modern game, I can't wait for the day when dravid retires, and we start winning a lot more test matches (Just any one can already see his influence in ODI's, after he being dropped india have started winning a lot more matches!!! including the WC!). And all his supporters - do not bring up his technique, records etc, last 5 years his averaged 30 something (his strike rate is lower than his average lol), and as for techniques, ask sehwag about its importance

  • TheUltimateTruth on July 3, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    India batted far too slowly in the 2nd innings leaving themselves less time to bowl at WI. The could have scored the last 50 runs faster (may be they would have lost a few more wickets trying ... but there are no prizes for taking home wickets) and gotten 10 more overs to bowl. That would have been smarter, aggressive cricket. As an India fan I was frustrated and disappointed.

  • on July 3, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    dhoni is the best captain ever and he knows what to do at all the times

  • hm007 on July 3, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    9 out of 10 captains would have said it was frustrating but not Dhoni. I have never seen him getting frustrated on the field for any mistakes, be his own or of others. If at all we take on board this one attitude of his then the world will be a different place. Fantastic to see such a philosophical and detached personality in the cricketing world.

  • deepu1469 on July 3, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    dhoni has proved that he is good for nothing by this interview., he should accept that they played with poor economy in last session.. that added extra pressure on bowlers.. praveen and ishant could have bowled few more attacking delivering if d target wasnt that low,, .. they bowled too many deliveries outside off,,, they would have declared earlier with better target,if d lower order had played with better RR

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  • deepu1469 on July 3, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    dhoni has proved that he is good for nothing by this interview., he should accept that they played with poor economy in last session.. that added extra pressure on bowlers.. praveen and ishant could have bowled few more attacking delivering if d target wasnt that low,, .. they bowled too many deliveries outside off,,, they would have declared earlier with better target,if d lower order had played with better RR

  • hm007 on July 3, 2011, 8:03 GMT

    9 out of 10 captains would have said it was frustrating but not Dhoni. I have never seen him getting frustrated on the field for any mistakes, be his own or of others. If at all we take on board this one attitude of his then the world will be a different place. Fantastic to see such a philosophical and detached personality in the cricketing world.

  • on July 3, 2011, 8:10 GMT

    dhoni is the best captain ever and he knows what to do at all the times

  • TheUltimateTruth on July 3, 2011, 8:59 GMT

    India batted far too slowly in the 2nd innings leaving themselves less time to bowl at WI. The could have scored the last 50 runs faster (may be they would have lost a few more wickets trying ... but there are no prizes for taking home wickets) and gotten 10 more overs to bowl. That would have been smarter, aggressive cricket. As an India fan I was frustrated and disappointed.

  • on July 3, 2011, 9:17 GMT

    Every reason to be frustrated! Not with the weather, but with rahul dravid who took up 170 balls and batted like a snail!!! If he is so great as his fans make out to be why could he not take the initiative and score quicker??? His batting is really painful to watch in any game. Against a weakened west indies, this was a golden opportunity to win the series. His defensive mindset does not have space in the modern game, I can't wait for the day when dravid retires, and we start winning a lot more test matches (Just any one can already see his influence in ODI's, after he being dropped india have started winning a lot more matches!!! including the WC!). And all his supporters - do not bring up his technique, records etc, last 5 years his averaged 30 something (his strike rate is lower than his average lol), and as for techniques, ask sehwag about its importance

  • aus_sore_losers on July 3, 2011, 9:48 GMT

    Captain Cool spot on... we are ready to take on poms, bring on anything poms... Ishant alongwith ever deadly Zak and Shrisanth will destroy their mediocre batting...then you will see the difference between SL and India, and also SL will learn a thing or two from us on how to play outside the subcontinent..lol

  • sachin_vvsfan on July 3, 2011, 10:11 GMT

    some comments here about dravid make me laugh. I am not ablind supported but do we remember what happened in the first innings? If dravid got out cheaply then it will put extra pressure on other batsmen and they too will try to kill the time (batsmen like dhoni and kholi are too known for their time eating skills). But wait if you need just 50 runs more extra why couldn't we get that in the final day? They tried and got some quick runs and got out in the process (kholi, laxman,dhoni). What if they had tried this much earlier and bundled out for 230 odd.Then you will blame that they couldn't bat for the whole day. If we had got the full quota on final day we would have better chances of winning. That said we have no reason to be frustrated. I see one positive in mukunds innings. Looks promising.Gud luck

  • CricEshwar on July 3, 2011, 10:20 GMT

    It was a decent match and Dhoni is groomed enough not to talk his emotions in a press conference. India could've batted a bit more aggressively so we could dominate as the no. 1 side should and forced a result. Had Sachin been there in the match, tantrums would've been all around that he batted for the records. It is one thing to be important to spend Y overs and get X runs strategically to be in a safe position and quite another to not be able to dominate a side practically clinging on to it's last hook on the test status.

  • Notredam on July 3, 2011, 10:26 GMT

    best captain ever to lead india..26 played..as captain,,,15 won,,3 lost and 8 draw and check those 8 drawn as wel..india had upper hand in those 5-6 out of 8 also..so really dhoni has transpired success for team india..what a legend..

  • on July 3, 2011, 10:35 GMT

    @ravi:did u see the pitch in which the match was played??????wen india tried to accelerate they lost 4 wickets in 7 odd ovrs think wat wuld hav happened if he had accelerated and had got out india wuld hav lost the match!!!!!!