West Indies v New Zealand, 1st ODI, Kingston July 4, 2012

West Indies' best chance for rare series win

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Match facts

Thursday, July 5
Start time 0930 (1430 GMT)

Big Picture

West Indies have long been at that level where mediocrity becomes so much of a routine that you lose track of how poor they have actually become. It has been more than four years since they have won an ODI series against Test-level opposition, apart from Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. That is 14 straight bilateral series. Recent performances and the current opposition give a faint glimmer of hope, though, that the woeful run could end.

West Indies tied a hard-fought series with Australia at home in March. They were expected to be beaten, but they fought. Another factor in their favour is that their opponents, New Zealand, are fellow laggards. They are ranked seventh, a point ahead of West Indies in the ICC one-day rankings, and a gulf separates the two and sixth-ranked Pakistan. Since December 2008, New Zealand have won only one bilateral ODI series against top Test-level opposition. They have even suffered a 0-4 rout to Bangladesh.

If the Twenty20s were a sign of things to come, New Zealand stand no chance. They were hammered in both games in Florida. The ODI format does afford a team the time to withstand shocks and come back. But on paper, things look loaded against New Zealand. They are coming off after a long break, the conditions certainly won't suit them, West Indies are packed with power-hitters and New Zealand are without their injured captain Ross Taylor and other key players. Again, it's time to 'punch above their weight'.

Form guide

West Indies LLLWT (completed games, most recent first)
New Zealand LLLWW

Watch out for...

This is the best chance for Darren Sammy to record his first ODI series win over top opposition. All the talk during his captaincy has been about 'team over individuals', building for the future and encouraging youth. They need to start winning some as well.

It will be a tough initiation to captaincy for Kane Williamson, the youngest to lead New Zealand, and of whom much is expected for many years to come. At the very least, this short leadership stint, till Taylor comes back, can only build his character. And offer New Zealand a glimpse into the long-term future.

Team news

West Indies have stuck to the same squad that lost the ODI series to England, minus Darren Bravo and Fidel Edwards. Again, the choice to be made will be which allrounder to leave out.

West Indies: (possible) 1 Lendl Simmons, 2 Chris Gayle, 3 Dwayne Smith, 4 Marlon Samuels, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6 Kieron Pollard, 7 Darren Sammy (capt), 8 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 9 Tino Best, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Sunil Narine

New Zealand have added fast bowler Trent Boult to the squad for the one-dayers. He was already part of the Test squad but is yet to make his ODI debut. Jacob Oram missed the second Twenty20 on Sunday with a knee strain but is expected to be fit for the ODIs.

New Zealand: (possible) 1 Rob Nicol, 2 Martin Guptill, 3 Kane Williamson (capt), 4 Daniel Flynn, 5 Dean Brownlie, 6 Tom Latham/BJ Watling (wk), 7 Jacob Oram, 8 Tim Southee, 9 Nathan McCullum, 10 Doug Bracewell/Tarun Nethula 11 Kyle Mills

Stats and trivia

  • The last time New Zealand toured the West Indies for a bilateral series was in 2002
  • The last time Chris Gayle played for West Indies at Sabina Park, his home ground, was in June 2009

    Quotes

    "Without Brendon and Ross in the side we lose a bit of that experience. We've got quite a young batting line-up, but the guys are picked in this squad for a reason."
    New Zealand's Martin Guptill thinks his team-mates are capable of stepping up in the absence of the senior players

    "We are looking for consistency. For the past few home series we have not started well and have played catch up."
    Darren Sammy, West Indies' captain, is hoping for a decent start to the series

    Abhishek Purohit is an editorial assistant at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 5, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    RAMNARESH SARWAN is needed in this side to provide some skill and experience in the middle order. i still don't think that DWAYNE SMITH has that experience or quality to fill that #3 position.

  • denessa on July 5, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    WINDIES WILL PUT A SOUND TRASHING ON THE NEW ZELANDERS........

  • frano1 on July 5, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    lets all remember that the last time west indies faced Bangladesh they were a weakened side. west indies now have a formidable team that will make most teams consider them serious contenders. Hence i believe they will start favorites in that series. As for Tino Best being apart of the squad i applaud the move. For anyone who has seen Best over the last three years they will admit that there has been a vast improvement. simply putting in players because they are young doesn't cut there has to be a proper developmental program to groom these players to maturity.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    It's very hard to wait to see Chris Gayle's batting, and I am sure at this time Chris Gayle and Pollard will crush New Zealand again, as New Zealand main players have some different type of injuries, so definitely West Indies have big change to win this series. Best of luck West Indies.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    cricketWI...Yes its true when Bangladesh and West Indies played at World Cup, Bangladesh were thumped but I'm not going to lie, Bangladesh back and before then were playing like an ordinary team but everything has changed now. Don't forget the last time they met, they we're both relatively equal with Bangladesh winning the one-off T20 match, West Indies winning the 3 match ODI Series 2-1 in which one of them Bangladesh bowled out West Indies for 61 runs only 3 more runs compared to the 2011 World Cup defeat so even stevens there and the 2 match Test series 1-0 to West Indies with the other one a draw so that shows West Indies didn't beat Bangladesh convincingly. West Indies are a talented team but there's not much difference between them, New Zealand and Bangladesh now.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    @legend_963...First of all times have changed now and Bangladesh are a improved side and the last time West Indies played a series against Bangladesh both were equal but don't worry, when they meet later this year, you'll know what I mean. If Bangladesh can beat the likes of India, Sri Lanka, South Africa and give Pakistan a tough fight then I'm sure Bangladesh can convincingly beat the West Indies this time around. Bangladesh were bad then but this is now.

  • Kiwi_Craig on July 5, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    @Mike O'Brien: Neil Wagner is only in the test team but you are right he should be in the odi team too but he should be in 1 day. Cant wait to see him bowl in the tests he should go well. Good luck to the Blackcaps, we will need it.

  • on July 5, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Surely it can't be long before NZ are losing to the likes of Afghanistan and Ireland on a regular basis. It has been a very long time since NZ have 'punched above their weight,' there can be no more excuses. Either perform or get out.

  • on July 5, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    Oram may be injury prone but he has been one of NZs better performers in the last decade especially in world cups. Its disappointing to see NZ fans constantly bashing him.

  • SwingandSeam on July 5, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    I am not sure of the point to playing Tino Best. He has had his chance, enjoyed some good moments, but surely now is an opportunity to bring in some of the young guys who have done well recently in the A side against India. Johnson, Holder or Permaul should be given an opportunity. Hopefully one or two will play at some point, at least in the Test series.

  • on July 5, 2012, 14:14 GMT

    RAMNARESH SARWAN is needed in this side to provide some skill and experience in the middle order. i still don't think that DWAYNE SMITH has that experience or quality to fill that #3 position.

  • denessa on July 5, 2012, 13:50 GMT

    WINDIES WILL PUT A SOUND TRASHING ON THE NEW ZELANDERS........

  • frano1 on July 5, 2012, 13:21 GMT

    lets all remember that the last time west indies faced Bangladesh they were a weakened side. west indies now have a formidable team that will make most teams consider them serious contenders. Hence i believe they will start favorites in that series. As for Tino Best being apart of the squad i applaud the move. For anyone who has seen Best over the last three years they will admit that there has been a vast improvement. simply putting in players because they are young doesn't cut there has to be a proper developmental program to groom these players to maturity.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:57 GMT

    It's very hard to wait to see Chris Gayle's batting, and I am sure at this time Chris Gayle and Pollard will crush New Zealand again, as New Zealand main players have some different type of injuries, so definitely West Indies have big change to win this series. Best of luck West Indies.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    cricketWI...Yes its true when Bangladesh and West Indies played at World Cup, Bangladesh were thumped but I'm not going to lie, Bangladesh back and before then were playing like an ordinary team but everything has changed now. Don't forget the last time they met, they we're both relatively equal with Bangladesh winning the one-off T20 match, West Indies winning the 3 match ODI Series 2-1 in which one of them Bangladesh bowled out West Indies for 61 runs only 3 more runs compared to the 2011 World Cup defeat so even stevens there and the 2 match Test series 1-0 to West Indies with the other one a draw so that shows West Indies didn't beat Bangladesh convincingly. West Indies are a talented team but there's not much difference between them, New Zealand and Bangladesh now.

  • on July 5, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    @legend_963...First of all times have changed now and Bangladesh are a improved side and the last time West Indies played a series against Bangladesh both were equal but don't worry, when they meet later this year, you'll know what I mean. If Bangladesh can beat the likes of India, Sri Lanka, South Africa and give Pakistan a tough fight then I'm sure Bangladesh can convincingly beat the West Indies this time around. Bangladesh were bad then but this is now.

  • Kiwi_Craig on July 5, 2012, 8:33 GMT

    @Mike O'Brien: Neil Wagner is only in the test team but you are right he should be in the odi team too but he should be in 1 day. Cant wait to see him bowl in the tests he should go well. Good luck to the Blackcaps, we will need it.

  • on July 5, 2012, 8:28 GMT

    Surely it can't be long before NZ are losing to the likes of Afghanistan and Ireland on a regular basis. It has been a very long time since NZ have 'punched above their weight,' there can be no more excuses. Either perform or get out.

  • on July 5, 2012, 6:19 GMT

    Oram may be injury prone but he has been one of NZs better performers in the last decade especially in world cups. Its disappointing to see NZ fans constantly bashing him.

  • SwingandSeam on July 5, 2012, 6:06 GMT

    I am not sure of the point to playing Tino Best. He has had his chance, enjoyed some good moments, but surely now is an opportunity to bring in some of the young guys who have done well recently in the A side against India. Johnson, Holder or Permaul should be given an opportunity. Hopefully one or two will play at some point, at least in the Test series.

  • on July 5, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    I do hope the West Indies do well. All that improvement of late needs to be crowned with a good morale boosting victory.

  • anver777 on July 5, 2012, 5:03 GMT

    WI looked good in T20's & need to carry the same form in ODIs too...... NZ team is weakened without their regulars, so this is the best chance for WI to beat them comfortably !!! A big task for NZ captain Williamson in this series !!!!

  • on July 5, 2012, 2:55 GMT

    Where the heck is Wagner?

  • on July 5, 2012, 2:45 GMT

    Hey @gaspipe Tarun isn't a left arm spinner, he's a right arm leg spinner ;-) But yes I agree they must pick him!

  • kingstonsfinest on July 5, 2012, 2:28 GMT

    Cant believe Andre Russell did not play in either of the T20s and is not even mentioned for the odi squad, probably the most talented and promising of the all rounder, an excellent fielder and also hits the ball a far way, I would drop Simmons and play Russell in my final 11

  • cricketWI on July 5, 2012, 1:53 GMT

    @ "Ahmed Hussain" I don't totally agree with what you said about WI will struggle to beat Bangladesh. Just because NZ had a horrible time against Bangladesh in Bangladesh doesn't mean WI will struggle too against them. Most occasions when Bangladesh and WI's "full string team" faces-off, WI don't find too much trouble to beat them, just look at the match between the two sides in the last world cup.

  • Paley73 on July 5, 2012, 1:43 GMT

    I would prefer to see Charles instead of Simmons. Simmons has not impressed against Aus or Eng.

  • on July 5, 2012, 1:33 GMT

    Southee batting at number 3 in the T20s really speaks volumes of our situation in the batting department. Perhaps hes been working on his batting (though he was never a mug) who knows but when an out of form pace bowler has to come in as your number 3 you really get the feeling the coaching doesnt have much confidence in those coming after him. Brownlie, Latham, Flynn and even williamson really need to start producing the goods cause we have had more than enough 'could be' or 'should be' international batsmen... a'la Mathew Sinclair.

    Id Love to see Guptil, Franklin,McCullum, Taylor, Williamson, Oram, Vettori, Bracewell, Mills, N McCullum and Southee/Nethula depending on conditions. That line up is alot more inspiring than what weve seen so far. The test team should hopefully look something like that minus Franklin/Oram with good the ol phantom thrown in. I know its onlt T20 and ODI's but it really sucks seeing a new zealand team this weak playing.

  • Dr_Van_Nostrand on July 5, 2012, 0:52 GMT

    Nethula must play! It's NZ's only chance of troubling the Windies' great lower-order hitters. More spin! Leave Southee out.

  • Lermy on July 5, 2012, 0:45 GMT

    New Zealand don't stand a chance. They don't have enough South Africans in their side... ...YET!!! Wish the windies had a bowling attack like the good ole days, Croft, Roberts, Garner, Holding, Marshall. Then you'd feel like you were doing well just getting to the crease without needing to change your underwear

  • Sinhaya on July 5, 2012, 0:34 GMT

    Good luck West Indies I am fully supporting you and eager to see you all win 5-0, from a Sri Lankan fan.

  • Robster1 on July 5, 2012, 0:27 GMT

    Series result is at least 4-1 to the Windies. There will be some awsome batting displays from them. The limited forms of the game see Gayle, Pollard, Bravo and co at their best. It'll be a long tour for the Kiwis.

  • nzcricket174 on July 5, 2012, 0:20 GMT

    We got no chance. We've had plenty of bad sides over the past few years but this is touching our worst.

  • on July 5, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    I would play Johnson Charles over Lendell Simons. Johnson has shown consistency from the time that he was invited to the West Indies side except for a duck in the Australia series in March 2012.

  • legend_963 on July 4, 2012, 23:52 GMT

    @Ahmed Hussain in what time and space do u live to to claim that west indies will struggle against bangladesh if my memory serves me correct West Indies beat bangladesh (at full strength at home with the mother of all inexperienced teams and a captain whose selection continues to confuse me) anyways as for this article in my opinion West Indies its not they are so bad that they struggle for series wins but its the lack of consistency if you check any tour that involves the west indies they are generally in a position to win and then out of nowhere magic happens and they collapse.

  • on July 4, 2012, 21:50 GMT

    Since we can't have Benn, the above team is fine & in batting order.And yes NZ is still top opposition. WI r not a difficult team to beat in ODIs, because of their approach to this format. However if they can somehow put 265+ on the tin they r in with a chance. ENG v AUS the last 2 ODIs ENG-46(4s) & 5(6s); aprox 41% of their runs in boundaries, barring a few xtras, they ran the rest. WI must learn to build their innings in ODI matches, lusty hitting is not enough. ODIs r 30 overs of normal batting + T20 approach. And WI have the men for the job, no other team has that luxury. All the best WI.

  • BackfootNossyfan on July 4, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    Good luck to both sides. Especially Kane Williamson.

  • MarkM33 on July 4, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    This is the weakest looking NZ side in many, many years especially in the batting. This isn't just a chance for the WI to win the series, they have to. If they don't then you have to wonder what is wrong with them.

    NZ with their best players in the team would make it an even contest. But without McCullum, Ryder and Taylor the batting is weak and lacking real firepower. This is a series for the WI to lose.

  • on July 4, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    Why should they drop Ramdin. Is Bough some best batsman and we don't know about it. Rmadin is the best keeper the West Indies has and he is still faster in reacting than Bough. I could always tell when Baugh is going to out because he starts to look bored. At least Ramdin always tries. And I would say Yes to Simmons but there is no one else who could replace him. All those guys the used in England were massive failures.

  • on July 4, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    I loved it when the headline of this article states "WEST INDIES BEST CHANCE FOR RARE SERIES WIN" which by the way I agree 100% with the writer because New Zealand are clearly not improving much in Cricket and as a nation then to focus a bit too much on their most popular sport Rugby Union. Also what I loved about that headline was that the West Indies will be playing against 'minnows' Bangladesh later this year and everyone knows they will struggle to win a series against them compared to New Zealand which again the article has perfectly mentioned that New Zealand got banglawashed 4-0 so this is indeed a rare chance for the West Indies to go for the sweep but I hope I'm wrong to be honest, New Zealand Cricket is still pretty exciting.

  • GasPipe on July 4, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    I will be incredibly angry with the Black Caps selectors if they do not pick Tarun Nethula. We wanted a left arm spinner in the squad, and he genuinely spins the ball (unlike Nathan McCullum and other part timers in our sqaud) , how about we actually use him?

  • phendel on July 4, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    that's a long time not winning a series though....hoping this series is the first of many to come for WI.....a win in this series will see WI go past NZ into 7th which is their highest in a while.....one step closer to tht #1 they've been talking abt i guess...good luck to both teams!!!!!

  • NAZMO-CRICKFANN on July 4, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    yes keep it up keep talking bad about the west indies . it will only serve to rile them up

  • on July 4, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    I hope to see West Indies reach the Zenith just like CLive lloyds Demons !

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 4, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Drop Ramdin or Simmons no room for both in this 11 and add Edwards as Roach is injured and you have a better rounded side.

  • kums1985 on July 4, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    yes i agree this is the best chance for westindies to make a white wash and be confident ahead of the worldt20 which they r going to win but i think they should pick this team for sure to make the white wash 1)GAYLE 2)SMITH 3)SAMUELS 4)RAMDIN 5)BRAVO 6)POLLARD 7)RUSSELL 8)SAMMY 9)BEST 10)RAMPAUL 11)NARINE with this line up u would think that it has too many allrounders but it is the way to go till darren returns and tell marlon and ramdin to bat for 20 overs in the middle first 10 overs for gayle and smith to attack and aim for 75 runs and then samuels and ramdin to consolidate and try to get 85 runs from 11 to 30 so if they do so we would have 160 runs in 30 overs then last 20 overs aim for 140 so easily 300 is achievable so calculate and play boys WISHING U BEST OF LUCK FOR OTTIS GIBSON SIR AND TEAM WESTINDIES - from a geniune fan of westindies

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  • kums1985 on July 4, 2012, 18:44 GMT

    yes i agree this is the best chance for westindies to make a white wash and be confident ahead of the worldt20 which they r going to win but i think they should pick this team for sure to make the white wash 1)GAYLE 2)SMITH 3)SAMUELS 4)RAMDIN 5)BRAVO 6)POLLARD 7)RUSSELL 8)SAMMY 9)BEST 10)RAMPAUL 11)NARINE with this line up u would think that it has too many allrounders but it is the way to go till darren returns and tell marlon and ramdin to bat for 20 overs in the middle first 10 overs for gayle and smith to attack and aim for 75 runs and then samuels and ramdin to consolidate and try to get 85 runs from 11 to 30 so if they do so we would have 160 runs in 30 overs then last 20 overs aim for 140 so easily 300 is achievable so calculate and play boys WISHING U BEST OF LUCK FOR OTTIS GIBSON SIR AND TEAM WESTINDIES - from a geniune fan of westindies

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 4, 2012, 19:01 GMT

    Drop Ramdin or Simmons no room for both in this 11 and add Edwards as Roach is injured and you have a better rounded side.

  • on July 4, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    I hope to see West Indies reach the Zenith just like CLive lloyds Demons !

  • NAZMO-CRICKFANN on July 4, 2012, 19:07 GMT

    yes keep it up keep talking bad about the west indies . it will only serve to rile them up

  • phendel on July 4, 2012, 19:13 GMT

    that's a long time not winning a series though....hoping this series is the first of many to come for WI.....a win in this series will see WI go past NZ into 7th which is their highest in a while.....one step closer to tht #1 they've been talking abt i guess...good luck to both teams!!!!!

  • GasPipe on July 4, 2012, 19:30 GMT

    I will be incredibly angry with the Black Caps selectors if they do not pick Tarun Nethula. We wanted a left arm spinner in the squad, and he genuinely spins the ball (unlike Nathan McCullum and other part timers in our sqaud) , how about we actually use him?

  • on July 4, 2012, 19:58 GMT

    I loved it when the headline of this article states "WEST INDIES BEST CHANCE FOR RARE SERIES WIN" which by the way I agree 100% with the writer because New Zealand are clearly not improving much in Cricket and as a nation then to focus a bit too much on their most popular sport Rugby Union. Also what I loved about that headline was that the West Indies will be playing against 'minnows' Bangladesh later this year and everyone knows they will struggle to win a series against them compared to New Zealand which again the article has perfectly mentioned that New Zealand got banglawashed 4-0 so this is indeed a rare chance for the West Indies to go for the sweep but I hope I'm wrong to be honest, New Zealand Cricket is still pretty exciting.

  • on July 4, 2012, 21:21 GMT

    Why should they drop Ramdin. Is Bough some best batsman and we don't know about it. Rmadin is the best keeper the West Indies has and he is still faster in reacting than Bough. I could always tell when Baugh is going to out because he starts to look bored. At least Ramdin always tries. And I would say Yes to Simmons but there is no one else who could replace him. All those guys the used in England were massive failures.

  • MarkM33 on July 4, 2012, 21:40 GMT

    This is the weakest looking NZ side in many, many years especially in the batting. This isn't just a chance for the WI to win the series, they have to. If they don't then you have to wonder what is wrong with them.

    NZ with their best players in the team would make it an even contest. But without McCullum, Ryder and Taylor the batting is weak and lacking real firepower. This is a series for the WI to lose.

  • BackfootNossyfan on July 4, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    Good luck to both sides. Especially Kane Williamson.