West Indies Cricket Board President's XI v New Zealanders

Roach stars with four-wicket haul

ESPNcricinfo staff

July 20, 2012

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New Zealanders 137 for 8 (Williamson 55, van Wyk 34, Roach 4-28) v West Indies Board President's XI

Kemar Roach ended the day with figures of 4 for 28, West Indies Cricket Board President's XI v New Zealanders, Day one, Antigua, July 20, 2012
Kemar Roach troubled the New Zealand batsmen with his swing and ended the day with figures of 4 for 28 © West Indies Cricket

West Indies Cricket Board President's XI bowlers took advantage of helpful conditions to restrict New Zealanders to 137 for 8, on the opening day of their three-day tour game at the Sir Vivian Richards Stadium in Antigua. The star turn came from fast bowler Kemar Roach, who was playing his first match since a shin injury cut short his tour of England two months ago.

The New Zealanders were sent into bat under overcast conditions and struggled as their top order failed to handle the moving ball. Roach had Martin Guptill lbw, and followed that up with the wickets of Brendon McCullum (2) and Ross Taylor (0), both edging the ball to Shivnarine Chanderpaul. The wickets kept tumbling as Delorn Johnson accounted for Daniel Flynn to reduce the New Zealanders to 28 for 4. Dean Brownlie fell lbw to the left-arm spinner Veerasammy Permaul, and Roach picked up his fourth wicket of the innings when he dismissed Daniel Vettori for 9.

At 54 for 6, the New Zealanders looked in danger of being bowled out cheaply. However Kane Williamson and Kruger van Wyk, offered some resistance; their 80-run stand taking the score to 134. Their dogged, seventh-wicket effort came to an end when van Wyk was dismissed for 34. Williamson, who had grafted his way to 55 off 176 deliveries, fell on the same score, to Assad Fudadin. Rain brought an early end to the day's play; a poor one for the New Zealanders, with only three of their batsmen having reached double figures.

Van Wyk, who was the second-highest scorer, said conditions were tough, but it was important for the batsmen to "mentally" prepare themselves before the first Test. "Patience is a massive word on this tour," van Wyk said. "You don't get a lot of value for the shots - the wicket is really slow, some turn, some don't and some spit, and it is only day one. Wickets will get tougher to bat on as the tour goes on but patience is the key word. Time in the middle will help."

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Posted by   on (July 22, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

Tks for the updates bro. U have been most helpful. Not getting any info until the foll. day. Can't understand.

Posted by SNIFFLEATHER on (July 21, 2012, 22:20 GMT)

Close of play score from day 2 of the tour match...

WIPresident's XI 299-7 in reply to New Zealand's 149 all out.

Highlight of another strong day for the home side was Narsingh Deonarine, who hit an aggressive 106. Chanderpaul made a steady half century whilst Daniel Vettori picked up four wickets for the tourists.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 22:08 GMT)

Well if what the guy said is correct, Barath, Powell & Edwards, all failed, we have serious problems. Somebody has to go with Gayle. The above mentioned players in my view r promising players. I really do like Barath. But something is not clicking for them. Maybe they r not getting the correct coaching. Their positions in the team r very technical. I don't know. One for the xperts I suppose. Russell is more than a capable batter, but certainly not technically sound. But who knows, desperate times might require desperate action. R we that desperate? Over to the experts.

Posted by yampymurp on (July 21, 2012, 20:28 GMT)

West indies should follow Australia and use one of those all-rounders to open the batting with Gayle in all formats.Russell would be the best candidate for this job because he is technically sound and couldn't do worse than the openers we keep recycling.I believe that even though Sammy has been doing a steady job as a bowler we can do better with a more aggressive option because we have them out there at present even though they may be erratic at times but since Sammy is the captain and is also keeping out someone like Russell then maybe Russell can command a place as a batsman opening with Gayle and maybe might bring back his bowling confidence like Shane Watson.waiting to hear your comments about my suggestion guys.

Posted by SIDE-KICK on (July 21, 2012, 20:17 GMT)

I do think the New Zealand team needs to move there batting order around a bit. i would put Kane Williamson in at 3 or 4 nd move Daniel Flynn down to no 5 Kane is better at the top once he is set he can start to make big runs so plz New Zealand cricket put Brendon McCullum to open with Martin Guptill then have Kane then Ross then Daniel Flynn the Dan Vettori i feel thats the best line up it wouldnt hurt them to try it now would it thanks

Posted by SNIFFLEATHER on (July 21, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

Nearing lunch on day two of the tour match, and West Indies are currently 77-3 in reply. Wrapped up the remaining two wickets cheaply, but then Barath, Powell and Edwards all failed again, before Fudadin and Chanderpaul started to try to rebuild the innings. Barath, Powell and Edwards may not get another chance to persuade the selectors if it rains or the Kiwis bat well in their second innings. If so, then the selectors will presumably have to choose between Barath and Powell as a partner for Gayle, followed by Samuels at three (surely they won't risk Edwards/Powell/Barath), and then perhaps Dwayne Bravo, Chanderpaul and either Fudadin or Deonarine at six. The bowlers will likely be a little more straightforward, as Roach, Sammy and Narine are guaranteed to play, leaving Best, Rampaul and Johnson to make up the attack. Hopefully Johnson will get the nod, if not, Best must play over Rampaul. The extra pace at both ends will really make a difference, despite how steady Ravi is.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 16:02 GMT)

We talk about choosing this batman and that batman. What we need are players who can and know how to build innings. We will never win a test match unless our current batmen can build innings( Chiv being the exception). It is a real indictment when we have players who have been playing cricket from the time they were young lads and they do not underhand the value of a single as the building block(foundation) of a well constructed innings. Let me reveal the well kept secret of getting singles: A technique that get you in line with the ball( ask all of the world's run getters. A big secret in deed. The WI face to many dot ball: a sure sign of poor techniques. Its a 4 or a six or nothing at all.

Do our young cricketers watch other test players, like Kallis, Amal, Kendukar,Pointin, Micheal? Do they listen to the comments of Jeff Boycott? What is the purpose of the WI's analysis? Do they review the manner of their dismissal and try not to repeat the same errors.. I am totally perplexed.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

Bharat, Philips, Powell, Brathwaite, Edwards, Fudadin, & Bravo , Johnson, Pascal, Gabriel, Holder , Permaul & Bishoo along with Thomas / Simmons as keeper should play test series vs Zimbabwe & Bangladesh both home & away because even if they lose they gain valuable learning experience. some 4 day matches vs Ireland, England lions & all the other A teams would also be a good idea both home & away so that they will be more experienced & mature in the next 2 or 3 years when Gayle, Shiv , Sarwan, Nash, Best & Fidel are retiring. I am sure Pakistan wood gladly accommodate this A team Playing Pakistan A in Pakistan

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

Bharat, Edwards, Powell & Brathwaite need to go back to playing for West Indies A team. Since Bravo is injured now would be a good time to open with Gayle & Sammy in the tests just like Australia used to open with Watson & Katich. Then we could have Sarwan @ 3, Samuels 4 Chanderpaul 5, Deonarine 6, Ramdin 7, Best 8, Rampaul 9, Roach 10, & Narine / Shillingford @ 11 on a track that is helping the pacers. If the track is helping the spinners then we could swap Best for Shillingford since he is the least cerebral of the pace bowlers & is least likely to get wickets when things are not going his way. Best is more of a run in & bowl fast kinda guy while Roach Sammy & especially Rampaul of late try to set up the batsmen.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

playing both Simmons & Ramdin in the same ODI team when Chanderpaul or even Sarwan is capable of opening the batting with Gayle while 1 of Dean Thomas, Simmons or Ramdin keeps wicket is not a very smart move in my opinion. Do Charles / Simmons & all the other we have tried look capable of being a long term replacement for Gayle, Sarwan & Chanderpaul any time soon? No!! so why have they been outside the ODI team for the past 15 months? We have many aggressive big hitters of the ball but no-one to settle down & bat sensibly to build a partnership if that is what the situation demands. That is why we did not black wash a very weak Kiwi team. Ramdin needs to stick with Test cricket & Simmons or Thomas can keep wicket in the shorter format of the game until they have enough skills behind the stumps to take over from Ramdin in tests as well

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (July 21, 2012, 13:49 GMT)

I personally think Samuels at 3 is a lot better than DM Bravo, asking him to bat 3 was poor management especially in England the phrase to much to young comes to mind.Now we are a stronger unit with Samuels at 3 especially given his recent form - with Shiv always opting to bat 5 this leaves 4 open and this is why I think it's good opportunity to give DJ a last chance to prove himself with the bat he has the talent, if he fails we can replace him with Deonarine or Edwards 2nd match.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (July 21, 2012, 13:35 GMT)

Rather 10. BEST HE HAS TO PLAY after the last 2 ODI's 100% 11. Johnson / Rampaul I'd like to see Johnson but they'll probably stick with Rampaul for time being.

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (July 21, 2012, 12:53 GMT)


Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

SNIFFLEATHER, your explanation of Chanderpaul's inclusion on this team is spot on, yet, by the same motion, you must expect that if Darren Bravo has not been picked, he is not at all in contention. While many have claimed that Johnson is the next big thing in Windies cricket, I am certain that he will have many opportunities to play, and much like De Lange in South Africa, Yadav in Inida and Cummins in Australia, he should be given the opportunity to be groomed properly for that role, not jus' thrown in by our rash selectors who may then overlook him for Bangladesh and other tours, too. Having said all that, if Barath and Edwards again fail, it should be back to the HPA for them. Not sure why Shillingford was not given a bowl yesterday! MY TEAM - Gayle, Powell, Samuels, Chanderpaul, DJ Bravo, Ramdhin, Sammy, Roach, Best, Narine, Shillingford. Powell over Barath based on his recent A-Team expolits vs. India A, and DJ is in form with the bat. LET'S GO WINDIES!!!

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (July 21, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

Good to see Roach back no one likes the real pace! the kiwi's are obviously struggling for this reason it is VITALl we have at least Johnson or Best playing with him this series personally I'd like to see all 3 The Kiwi's are very comfortable v Rampaul. With Dm Bravo out it's a chance for Samules to maybe bat 3 which will allow another bowler or all-rounder, Deonarine has shown every time he is not test material.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

@Balbir If you watched the T20s in Florida you would have caught the Shiv Chanderpaul interview, where he stated that he personally asked the coach to be part of this tour match. His reason being that he wants to get some match fitness ahead of the first test, and also wants to get used to the NZ bowlers.

Posted by SNIFFLEATHER on (July 21, 2012, 10:51 GMT)

Balbir, Shiv was selected so that he can get some much needed practice out in the middle as he didn't take part in the T20 or ODI series. And besides, it is hardly like the tourists don't know about him, so they wouldn't be giving anything away. I wouldn't be surprised to see Delorn Johnson given his debut. And I really hope so too, as this young prospect deserves his chance. A perfect scenario would be when he and Roach both play, giving the West Indies two genuine quicks. It would not be easy to leave out Best and Rampaul, but I would be too tempted to try Johnson. He didn't get the wickets he deserved yesterday, and by all accounts bowled superbly in tandem with Roach. Should Darren Bravo not make it, then Edwards will likely go in at No.3. However, should both Barath and Powell get runs in this game, then one of them may well slot in at first drop. Some difficult choices to make though, as DB Bravo (if fit), DJ Bravo, Assad Fudadin and Narsingh Deonarine are all in the mix too.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

An impressive return for Roach and look forward to him wreaking more havoc once the test match starts. It will be interesting to see who wins the 'bat off' between Barath and Powell today to open with Gayle in the tests. I expect the following to be named in the test side....Gayle, Powell or Barath, Kirk Edwards, Samuels,Chanderpaul,Deonarine,Ramdin,Sammy,Narine,Roach,Rampaul.

Posted by   on (July 21, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

I am not quite sure why WI played Chanderpaul in this match?

I would have expected to see Deonarine instead of Chanderpaul. Chanderpaul isalready an automatice selection for the tests.

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