West Indies news May 9, 2014

Ramdin named WI Test captain

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Denesh Ramdin, the West Indies wicketkeeper, has been named captain of the Test side and will take over from Darren Sammy, who will remain the T20 captain. This means West Indies have three separate captains for all three formats.

Ramdin's first assignment will be the home series against New Zealand which begins on June 8. He has led the national side in three T20s and an ODI. His experience with Trinidad & Tobago is more extensive with 37 matches at the helm across formats. He has 21 wins under his belt and took T&T to the semi-final of the Regional Four Day Competition this season.

This is the second time in as many years that Sammy has had to relinquish captaincy. Last May he had to make way for Dwayne Bravo to become ODI captain after criticism regarding his batting too low and his ability as a strike bowler.

Sammy's tenure as Test captain began in November 2010 when West Indies drew a three-match series against the hosts Sri Lanka. His best accomplishment as captain was when West Indies won six consecutive matches in 2012-13 which lifted the side to No. 5 in the rankings. But an overall record of 8 wins to 12 losses - including a spell of five defeats in their last six matches - has hurt his cause.

Sammy's three-year stint was marred by debate over his reliability as a player. He usually occupies No.8 in the batting order and has hit his only Test century and all five fifties in that position. But an average of 22.43 cites his lack of consistency and his straightforward medium pace, that fetched him 29 wickets in 10 matches, prompted several critics to question his impact as an allrounder.

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  • catchoftheday on May 13, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    The assertion that Sammy doesn't hold his place in the Test team as an all-rounder is probably correct. But don't forget that Sammy took up the captaincy at the time when all sorts of squabbles divided WI cricket - which must have been hard on the team. What Sammy gave the team was leadership at a time that was sorely needed. In many ways it was an unenviable time to take that on - more power to him for doing so. His contributions with bat and ball were also valuable, especially at times. WI now has several top players in their teams now that were out of the team for all sorts of reasons. That they have welded together is certainly a major achievement for Sammy as captain. Perhaps, now that has been done, it is time for Sammy to step down - but let's not forget his legacy to the team. Thank you, Darren Sammy.

  • cricketdebator on May 12, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    I think the decision to replace Sammy as captain of the test team is a good one. With due respect to Sammy, his ability does not merit a place on the test team. Ramdin is a good choice as replacement, and now the selectors should go one step further in giving him a group of young fresh players who he can mould into his own team. To continue with players like Gayle, Samuels, Chanderpaul, Fidel Edwards, Best, (just to name a few) would just be promoting more of the same old failure, and definitely counter- productive. This is a golden opportunity to select a balance team of our best young players in the region, and persist with them even they may fail initially. Certainly they could be no worse than what we have at present, and most likely would only get better with time and exposure. At the same time, Sammy should be made captain of both limited over formats, to which he is definitely more suited.

  • on May 12, 2014, 2:49 GMT

    Looks like this is the for Wicket Keepers. India is captained by Dhoni, Bangladesh by Mushfiqur Rahim, New Zealand by Brendon McCullum, Zimbabwe by Brendon Taylor, South Africa by AB and now West Indies by Ramdin. All the best Ramdin!!!

  • Riddymon on May 11, 2014, 23:22 GMT

    @mshyder: Perfectly stated. Totally agree and what I've been trying to drill into people's heads on cricinfo for years.

  • riverlime on May 11, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    Ramdin has learnt his lesson well and used his bat to do the talking , instead of badly spelt and cringeworthy notes, "Yea Viv talk nah". He was always good with the gloves, so that was never a problem. Then he learnt some leadership under the astute tactical leadership of Daren Ganga. And in the past 2 years he has developed his batting to the point where he can hold his place purely as a middle order batsman, with an average of 44. Let's hope he can pull the team together and also keep the stupid comments to himself.

  • StevieS on May 11, 2014, 19:57 GMT

    DJRNZ I wouldn't be too sure we will win, it rearly depends on the wickets, if they take turn as expected I don't like our chances. I very much doubt the WI will produce green seaming tracks for our benifit. As for the ODi's and 20/20 then it is a lottery, both teams have match winners and it depends on who shows up on the day.

  • StevieS on May 11, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    WIFL I am not West Indian but a kiwi so I don't know much about WI team selections and so forth, but is there a reason he hasn't played a test? He has a better FC record than Deonarine, Powell and I am guessing a few others.

  • mshyder on May 11, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    It is correct that Sammy is not an automatic selection in the team and the recent results also are not in his favor but one has to be honest that Sammy has not done badly as a Captain and a change in leadership will not bring any change in the fortunes of the team. They have good individuals but as a team the present WI team is just average. If Dhoni is appointed the captain of Bangladesh does anyone expects BD to become a top side ? NO, a captain is as good as the armory at his disposal thus think Sammy got a raw deal.

  • on May 11, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    @banglafan well stated. Remember though we are talking about the WI where the absence of a strong leader (aka head of the house) is the norm.

  • on May 11, 2014, 10:26 GMT

    they need improve a lot in tests and ODI's so called young players are failing badly i.e keiron powell,johnson charles and darren bravo and lack of good seam bowlers they dependent on spinners these days!

  • catchoftheday on May 13, 2014, 7:35 GMT

    The assertion that Sammy doesn't hold his place in the Test team as an all-rounder is probably correct. But don't forget that Sammy took up the captaincy at the time when all sorts of squabbles divided WI cricket - which must have been hard on the team. What Sammy gave the team was leadership at a time that was sorely needed. In many ways it was an unenviable time to take that on - more power to him for doing so. His contributions with bat and ball were also valuable, especially at times. WI now has several top players in their teams now that were out of the team for all sorts of reasons. That they have welded together is certainly a major achievement for Sammy as captain. Perhaps, now that has been done, it is time for Sammy to step down - but let's not forget his legacy to the team. Thank you, Darren Sammy.

  • cricketdebator on May 12, 2014, 12:15 GMT

    I think the decision to replace Sammy as captain of the test team is a good one. With due respect to Sammy, his ability does not merit a place on the test team. Ramdin is a good choice as replacement, and now the selectors should go one step further in giving him a group of young fresh players who he can mould into his own team. To continue with players like Gayle, Samuels, Chanderpaul, Fidel Edwards, Best, (just to name a few) would just be promoting more of the same old failure, and definitely counter- productive. This is a golden opportunity to select a balance team of our best young players in the region, and persist with them even they may fail initially. Certainly they could be no worse than what we have at present, and most likely would only get better with time and exposure. At the same time, Sammy should be made captain of both limited over formats, to which he is definitely more suited.

  • on May 12, 2014, 2:49 GMT

    Looks like this is the for Wicket Keepers. India is captained by Dhoni, Bangladesh by Mushfiqur Rahim, New Zealand by Brendon McCullum, Zimbabwe by Brendon Taylor, South Africa by AB and now West Indies by Ramdin. All the best Ramdin!!!

  • Riddymon on May 11, 2014, 23:22 GMT

    @mshyder: Perfectly stated. Totally agree and what I've been trying to drill into people's heads on cricinfo for years.

  • riverlime on May 11, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    Ramdin has learnt his lesson well and used his bat to do the talking , instead of badly spelt and cringeworthy notes, "Yea Viv talk nah". He was always good with the gloves, so that was never a problem. Then he learnt some leadership under the astute tactical leadership of Daren Ganga. And in the past 2 years he has developed his batting to the point where he can hold his place purely as a middle order batsman, with an average of 44. Let's hope he can pull the team together and also keep the stupid comments to himself.

  • StevieS on May 11, 2014, 19:57 GMT

    DJRNZ I wouldn't be too sure we will win, it rearly depends on the wickets, if they take turn as expected I don't like our chances. I very much doubt the WI will produce green seaming tracks for our benifit. As for the ODi's and 20/20 then it is a lottery, both teams have match winners and it depends on who shows up on the day.

  • StevieS on May 11, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    WIFL I am not West Indian but a kiwi so I don't know much about WI team selections and so forth, but is there a reason he hasn't played a test? He has a better FC record than Deonarine, Powell and I am guessing a few others.

  • mshyder on May 11, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    It is correct that Sammy is not an automatic selection in the team and the recent results also are not in his favor but one has to be honest that Sammy has not done badly as a Captain and a change in leadership will not bring any change in the fortunes of the team. They have good individuals but as a team the present WI team is just average. If Dhoni is appointed the captain of Bangladesh does anyone expects BD to become a top side ? NO, a captain is as good as the armory at his disposal thus think Sammy got a raw deal.

  • on May 11, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    @banglafan well stated. Remember though we are talking about the WI where the absence of a strong leader (aka head of the house) is the norm.

  • on May 11, 2014, 10:26 GMT

    they need improve a lot in tests and ODI's so called young players are failing badly i.e keiron powell,johnson charles and darren bravo and lack of good seam bowlers they dependent on spinners these days!

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on May 11, 2014, 10:15 GMT

    C.Gayle, K.Powell, K.Edwards, DB.Bravo, S.Chanderpaul, DJ.Bravo, D.Ramdin(c/w), J.Taylor, J.Holder, S.Narine, K.Roach. If all fit, I would expect to see this XI for the first test against the Kiwis. No Sarwan, no Fidel Edwards, no Marlon Samuels and no Ravi Rampaul - they are all either lacking in fitness/discipline/talent/form. Kraigg Brathwaitte also must be knocking on the door, Gayle needs runs.

  • cuffy on May 11, 2014, 5:36 GMT

    Great move by the WI Cricket Board that shows that the grew some real Balz...They made the right choice..we need to fill the stadiums in the WI so fans could enjoy so real good exciting cricket.....Kudos to Ramdin he will and always be succesfull for the WI

  • banglafan on May 11, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    Sometimes you need a skipper just for that purpose. Sammy filled that position perfectly. There were great captains who led teams without scoring runs and taking wickets galore. Brearley, Mushtaq are some names which come to mind. In fact, Misbah is the skipper they need for Pakistan's T20 team, even if his strike rate is 0.5 !

  • WIFL on May 11, 2014, 2:19 GMT

    I think the time is RIPE for Pollard to make his Test Debut. Dear Selectors Please do delay the inevitable

  • WIFL on May 11, 2014, 2:07 GMT

    Congrats to our Preysal boy Dinesh our first WI captain. Dinesh must be the first West Indian to captain WI at under 15, 19, T20, ODI and Test. The Preysal Village have produced Captains at our National Levl, Theo Cuffy, Rangy Nanan and Dinesh Ramdin. Four West Indies Players Inshan Ali (deceased), Rangy Nanan, Dinesh Ramdin and Ravi Rampaul. Congrats to the home of Cricket Preysal Village. Well Done

  • on May 10, 2014, 22:33 GMT

    Why is everyone on Ramdin case so, he is the best man for the job. Who again is better than Ramdin? Yes sammy is a good fighter and good cricketer but its time for a change. Ramdin has done well for Trinidad after taking it over from Ganga ,so i wish him all the best and hope he gets full support. And one more thing ppl saying they lost respect for Ramdin since the Viv incident but how would you feel as a young cricketer coming up and one of the legends trying to break your confidence just because he dont like you.

  • on May 10, 2014, 19:20 GMT

    1 step forwad 2 backward w i aint thinking about the future at all they will not come out of the position they r in in the near future all the keep doing is recycling players ramdin is the worst wicketkeeper batsman in the test playing countries look at his stat when will we take a page from s/a they took smith a 22 yrs old player and make the captain of that side even though u had senior players in that side and he gives them 10 yrs plus with a lot of success what does the captain have to offer the supporters of the w/i more of the same that we been getting over the past 10 yrs it is time for us to clean house and start a fresh it is better to lose with fresh blood than to have these jokers hanging around all the time not even in zimbabwe r bangla desh he could of play so lond in a team much less become captain it is a sad day for w.i cricket

  • DJRNZ on May 10, 2014, 16:34 GMT

    Easy series win for NZ. West Indies don't even look close to how great they used to be. Got a couple of decent T20 players and Chris Gayle is world class but that's about it.

  • stormy16 on May 10, 2014, 15:17 GMT

    Decent move by the Windies, Sammy was a decent option that hasnt worked and Ramdin is a first choice keeper and good fighter.

  • on May 10, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    Not a great surprise that Sammy is out as WINDIES captain; the selectors needed someone to carry forth their program, Darren Sammy was their pigeon. Sammy by all accounts seems to be a good hard working man. One who placed WI cricket ahead of all other formats of the game. In other words he was dedicated to WI cricket.Even passing on early OFFERS to play T20 in the IPL. I WISH HIM WELL. He was from my observation an interim captain.Looking at the present crop of WI cricketers Ramdin will not have an easy task unless he has the backing of the board. Will Sammy & Bravo still command a place on the selection committee? What about the fitness level of Samuels,Gayle,THE Bravos, Roach & RamPaul? Will Brathwaite be returning to the 11. Will Jonathan Carter along with Simmons & Dwayne Bravo be returning to the team? WI need to communicate to their fans & supporters their plans going forward. The level at which they communicate with their supporters is nothing short of atrocious.

  • on May 10, 2014, 14:52 GMT

    Right - so, who dey go put in his position???

  • on May 10, 2014, 13:50 GMT

    it's about time, sammy knows he doesn't a spot in the test side so he resigns from test cricket. he gave his best under difficult circumstances , he is a good guy and all the best to him.congrats to Ramdin and i hope he gets the support from everyone.the wicb selectors have an opportunity to select a balance team and a new team. it's about time

  • on May 10, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    If it's performance they are basing it on, there is not much separating them both. While Sammy is not by any means the most talented player , he always gives 200%, much more than can be said for almost all the other players save Chanderpaul. Just as Sammy would struggle to make the team of any of the top 4, so too would Ramdin based on performance and consistency, nevermind he may be our best wicketkeeper. Players with disciplinary issues do not make good captains hence the reason a great player like Shane Warne didn't last long and Kevin Peiterson never made the grade.

  • on May 10, 2014, 12:57 GMT

    I was really impressed with the young Sammy and thought he could become a genuine all-rounder. However, when he was inflicted on the West Indies team as Captain so that having a President, CEO and Captain of the WICB all from St Lucia could be used for political mileage (and was) I realised he would never make it beyond a bits-and-pieces player because he did not have to earn his place on the side. More, the muscles he put on to hit the ball harder has affected his bowling action and his arm is no longer high and straight. I am sorry he retired from test cricket since it demonstrates the same aversion he has to bowling when good batsmen are in. I would like to see him work hard to try to earn his place on the Test Team but that is no longer possible. The fact that Hyderabad has dropped him from its team because of inconsistent performances with both bat and ball is not a good sign for his future. He needs to show what he is made of. Regroup, rekindle and return.

  • TeamSelector on May 10, 2014, 12:20 GMT

    Sammy had great 'captaincy' skills, but he just didn't deserve a place in the playing eleven. As for Ramdin, I just don't know what to make of the decision to make him the captain. I just don't see a clear front runner for the WI captaincy at the moment. I would have preferred them to simply give back the captaincy to either Chanders or Gayle for a year or two, so they can groom either Darren Bravo or Samuels as the future captain.

  • landl47 on May 10, 2014, 11:57 GMT

    I thought Sammy took on a difficult job at a tough time and did extremely well. He's perhaps only marginal as a test player, but at least that enabled him to concentrate on captaincy rather than be expected (as Lara was) to be the star player as well as the captain.

    Good luck to Ramdin. Hopefully he'll have more talent to work with and better support than Sammy did.

  • on May 10, 2014, 11:51 GMT

    sammy is the best wi captain for the longest while,the team will only get worst with ramdin in charge..now watch them lose more than ever!!!

  • on May 10, 2014, 11:36 GMT

    Sammy is the best wi captain. It is all downhill from here. Ramdin has no respect and I am not convinced with his ability. Sammy was the only cricketer that stayed on the WI side during time of unrest. The selectors need to be changed.

  • on May 10, 2014, 11:23 GMT

    Salute to sammy for the way he led the team, boosted the morale of the team. He was reviving the WI cricket, it was neatly shaped and placed. Sammy's hard work will be now poured water as an inefficiennt Ramdin has been handed over the reins. Appoint a young and talented keeper who can bat keep and also reinstate sammy . Ramdin has had enough chances.

  • on May 10, 2014, 10:07 GMT

    He is the best man for the job so why is everybody on Ramdins case?

  • roddybee on May 10, 2014, 10:05 GMT

    nobody works harder than sammy? how many overs did he bowl in india? the man was stood at slip why the part timers were getting smashed.

  • AceB on May 10, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    Congrats to Ramdin !!! But the fun has just begun , hope you can influence and control the ship .

  • on May 10, 2014, 8:27 GMT

    Fans calling the coach unintelligent, and it's his fault that certain players have regressed, but what they wouldn't say is how the coach isn't out there with them, when they are batting,bowling or fielding. These well paid players need to start thinking for themselves and not rely on a coach every 5 minutes.

  • Bernsmal on May 10, 2014, 8:15 GMT

    As the popular saying goes in the West Indies; " same ole Khaki pants". Unless the attitudes of our players change we will continue to dwell in the darkroom of world cricket and never see the light of day again. There is too much talk and no action. We need new blood at the helm of our cricketing board and players association. Under former players from third world countries as coaches and team directors English cricket rose. Case in point Duncan Fletcher and Andy Flower.We need new ideas and new pathways to foster the talented cricketers that we have into athletes of international standards we have the raw material and the world knows it. That's why people love to see the WI play. However, fish rottens from the head and if you don't chop off the head you can't save the fish.

  • Go_F.Alonso on May 10, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    No player works harder than Sammy. I find him very dignified in behaviour and seems to gather his team and motivate/inspire them. I can't bring myself to wish Ramdin well cos I have no respect for him as a player or a person (based purely on his actions involving Sir Viv).

    Anyway this could actually be a boon to Sammy. Now he can turn a freelance T20 player around the world and spend more time with his young family (not that WI's test calendar is super busy).

  • vipinunni on May 10, 2014, 4:20 GMT

    congratz ramdin from India...hoping you will make this team as 1970-80 time westindies team...potential is there but application is the problem for west indies team....

  • openbat04 on May 10, 2014, 3:47 GMT

    Hahaha pooran?? You're funny, he not ready to play for trinidad for wi

  • on May 10, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    In the first place place even Radim himself should be dropped and replace with the young star Nicolas Pooran.

  • on May 10, 2014, 3:23 GMT

    sammy respect from sri lanka! a legend for west indies!

  • WindiesWillow on May 10, 2014, 1:52 GMT

    To Darren Sammy. In my life, I have never seen another passionate cricketer as yourself from anyteam in the wrold. You have given cricket a new meaning inthe Caribbean ad I thank you for your service. You smiled in the face of criticisms and led your team the way it should be led, fearlessly and passionately. I think Ramdin is far form a finished product as aleader, but I hope he matures into a good one. he will need guidance from past players in particular to do so. I wish him and WI cricket all the best.

  • aclarity on May 10, 2014, 1:51 GMT

    I cannot bring myself to congratulate Ramdhin because his premeditated "Talk Nah Viv" statement is a bone stuck in my throat. When your own publicly chastises a past icon it is difficult to swallow. Nevertheless, the state of WI cricket makes this choice inevitable. Neither Sammy nor Dwayne Bravo is test material. Gayle and Samuels seem at the wrong edge of history, and the youngsters are not ready. How did Gibson survive? I cannot think of any young player who has improved under his watch. In fact all have declined: Powell, Bravo, Edwards, Cottereal, Holder, Gabriel etc.). With this history, how can we place young cricketers under this coach? I hope the selectors keep Bonner, Blackwood, Amhris, L. Johnson, Lewis and Edwards a good distance off until the Gibson wind blows away.

  • Samarian on May 10, 2014, 1:35 GMT

    Thank you Darren Sammy for bringing dignity and hope to West Indies cricket. We will miss the gentleman that you are on and off the field. Continue to inspire our young cricketers even while the coup the grace is being hatched!

  • rayinto on May 10, 2014, 0:56 GMT

    How long will Sarwan be in exile. Gibson kill the cricket of the most qualified West Indian for the captaincy. How many more careers is Gibson going to kill?

  • tutorial on May 9, 2014, 23:29 GMT

    CONGRATULATIONS RAMDIN!!! Lets hope he gets support from Gayle and Samuels, for these two guys can cause a lot of UNEASE in the team, next step is to get Sarwan back in the team and with the exclusion of Sammy the test team should be on the road to success. I saw some strange request for test captaincy, like Edwards, Powell and Samuels, this is totally out of left field, if Samuels had self discipline he would've become a great cricketer even captain, for he is the poster boy when it comes to batting, unbelievable stroke player!. Chanderpau is very experience and i wish him many more years in test cricket, people should not ASSUME that this is his last series, after all many others played well into their 40's, DO NOT ASSUME PLEASE!! Gibson should be relief from his position, there is far too many experience and intelligent people in the WI.to pick from. Ramdin is totally capable of leading this team and it is up to team mates to stay unified.

  • hokeypokey on May 9, 2014, 23:25 GMT

    Congratulations to west indies cricket, for changing the test captain without any mistruths and public uproar..unlike what happened in new zealand..sammy sounds like a good bloke and is always smiling..goodluck, Pitty the blackcaps will smash the west Indies at home...cantwait..

  • Sanj747 on May 9, 2014, 23:13 GMT

    Sammy was clearly not the right person for West Indies cricket. In saying that Ramdin is not much of a replacement. Not much choice available in the cuoboard when you have to fire Paul and appoint Peter.

  • on May 9, 2014, 23:05 GMT

    Congrats to denesh and thank you Darren! This is a time to rally around WI , let's start picking the best bowlers/ batters period.at the same , this is an opportunity to pick those suited to test cricket

  • adkum on May 9, 2014, 22:43 GMT

    Congrats Dinesh. You deserve the role. Continue to work on your batting and exert more discretion when faced with adversaries. Captain of WI is a huge responsibility. Take it seriously and prove the selectors right for the confidence they placed on you. Thanks to Sammy for rallying WI in difficult times since he took over the captaincy. However his place in the team was always questionable as his stats do justify him a spot in any test team let alone the WI. He is an expert in the shorter version of the game and I feel he should also be captain of the One Day squad. He has a lot to contribute to the WI in the shorter version of the game. To expect an immediate turn around in WI cricket may be asking too much. Not impossible. This is a step in the right direction. Best wishes to the team. The composition of the WI board still leaves much to be desired. Maybe one day it will get the right people at the helm. Looking forward to comments from Cozier, past players and other knowledgeables.

  • JoshFromJamRock on May 9, 2014, 22:42 GMT

    I don't see the need to congratulate the board for something they should have done a long time ago.

    Ramdin should have been chosen instead of Sammy in the first place but at least he did a decent "holding job" while being captain. When Gayle, Samuels and Chanderpaul leave, WI will still have 4 good batsmen in Brathwaite, Powell, Edwards and Bravo. The other two "top six" positions are should go to two of the best under-30 batsmen of the regional competition for the past 3 years. In the meantime Sammy, Simmons, Smith, Bravo and Pollard should play some county cricket to improve their chances to be genuine no.5 and no.6 batsmen with reliable bowling capabilities as none of the top four can bowl. Can't wait until Taylor, Roach, Rampaul and Narine are bowling in tandem as they will be quite formidable especially with Miller, Shillingford, Benn, Permaul, Bishoo, Nurse, Holder, Beaton, Cummings and Johnson ready to take their chances when called upon.

    I see WI at #6 in Tests in 3-4 yrs.

  • on May 9, 2014, 22:24 GMT

    Well said Weldon. I still believe WI owes Sammy the chance to play some more especially after he has played so well in the shorter format. That should given him more confidence to play all formats and he is at an age (30) which is the prime of his life. I think this is a big mistake and it's not like there is anyone who is a blue chip prospect who should be given the chance, I have nothing against Ramdin but there is something political going on here.

  • on May 9, 2014, 21:57 GMT

    I am here again . Five years ago I said that Kraigg Brathwaithe should have been given all necessary guidence so that when the time is right he would take over , and the time is now.No one paid attentions

  • on May 9, 2014, 21:23 GMT

    It's a difficult thing to pick a WI team and even harder for a captain. This is a time for rebuilding even if they lose most of their matches. NZ is much improved team and will certainly win this series. It will take a few years for WI to start winning

  • nainil0683 on May 9, 2014, 21:13 GMT

    Ramdin feels like a very incomplete player who is trying to create a reputation off-late. But by no means he is a captaincy candidate. If you had to change the captain, why not Darren Bravo. That kid has shown some consistency and has been playing in the Test team since some time. If WICB can show confidence in young players like Bravo, he can come out pretty well. He seems to be a shadow of Lara and hope he can impose himself into a huge force. Hope he wears the captaincy cap one day.

  • TheMiddleStump on May 9, 2014, 20:49 GMT

    No surprise here. Ramdin has (as many have said) the safest spot in the Test team along with Chanderpaul. He is in great form and he has at least 4 good years left in his international career. Giving him the captaincy was the easy part.

    My XI after NZ Series:

    1)Brathwaite 2)Powell 3)Edwards 4)Bravo 5)Chanderpaul 6)Simmons 7)Ramdin 8)Narine 9)Rampaul 10)Holder 11)Taylor

    Unsure of the #6 but I think Simmons should be given a chance there as he's played well in the middle overs of ODIs being able to build and accelerate an innings. He is a short term fix if that suggestion doesn't work. Ideally, one of the best players the 4-day regional domestic season (one of Blackwood, Thomas, Ambris and Johnson) should be given a chance there after a good run on the Windies "A" team.

  • simonviller on May 9, 2014, 20:37 GMT

    Changing the captain would probably make some difference ,but that's not WI real problem .

  • wpbus13 on May 9, 2014, 20:25 GMT

    Sammy is a class act and a gentleman...no one can deny that but I believe it is the right decision. He is more suited to the shorter formats of the game. Ramdin is the most improved player of the current crop, who has led T&T reasonably well and deserves a shot. All the best to him!

  • on May 9, 2014, 20:02 GMT

    Sammy deserved to be axed. However, Ramdin's form as a batsman in the test side is nothing remarkable. It would have been better to give the captaincy back to Chris Gayle.

  • on May 9, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    It is time to perform at the highest level or West Indies will continue to linger at the bottom. As captain you will have to motivate the rest of the team to perform at the highest level; you have a very good talent pool to choose from across the entire "West indies Region (which of course includes Guyana). It must come down to aways choosing the best team for EACH match based on the 'in - form' status of the players, the venue (meaning pitch and weather), and the optimum use of the ten that take the field with you. Ask Lloyd for his advice for at least for the first year as new captain. Hard work makes Good luck; I wish you hard work.

  • on May 9, 2014, 19:37 GMT

    Wow! This is very sudden. I certainly did not expect Ramdin to be made captain of the test side. Sammy might not be very talented, but he did a fine job as captain and was a good leader. He may now lose his place in the longer format as the Windies might look to play a specialist fast bowler instead of him.

  • Speng on May 9, 2014, 19:11 GMT

    I say this once again: the people who denigrate Ramdin's stats do so in ignorance of his recent form. In the last two years his Test average is 44.29 compared to career of 27.25. That average is 4th best among all WI players in that period behind Chanders, Samuels, Gayle (http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=batting_average;spanmax1=09+May+2014;spanmin1=09+May+2012;spanval1=span;team=4;template=results;type=batting). He has good captaining experience with T&T and, I think, would have had the chance before if his game had not deserted him leading to Baugh taking his place, but since then he's come back and generally done well with the bat and glove (he's good keeping to spinners for sure!).

    Big thanks to Sammy for his spirit and professionalism which has been better than we've seen from a WI captain in a while.

  • Rally_Windies on May 9, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Pollard needs a chance in Tests ...

    he averages 37 in 4-day cricket... and has the ability to bat for long periods and score 100's ...

    to think if Viv was playing today... he might never see a test match .... what a shame that would have been

  • on May 9, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    i really like this decision..sammy never was the best choice for test captain because he could not really command his place on the team..ramdhin has improved his form over the last 18mths or so (avg >44 in that period).. best of luck ramdhin & W.I... tks Sammy for your contribution..you are a true gentleman..

  • on May 9, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    Initially i was a big critic of Darren Sammy place in WI ODI & Test team as player .But the passion the courage he has got still he deserve to be WI captain for all three formats .He took out WI from leadership crisis ,GEL the Team and convert them into winning unit therefore WI won the T20 WCUP and moved slightly up in Test ranking .Its bad decision to remove sammy and bring Ramdin because Ramdin has got no temprament once he disgraced legendary Sir VIV Richards during live match .The problem with Ramdin he plays for himself not for Team Like Darren sammy. Any way best wishes for Ramdin & WI cricket .

  • bbpp on May 9, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    Sammy is a classy guy but sadly his performances does not warrant a place in the test side. With regards to Ramdin, who else is there that commands a place in the team? He doesn't jump out as the obvious choice and had young Bravo or Kirk Edwards cemented their places I would have gone for either.

    Elder Bravo deserves consideration but cannot be seriously considered if he doesn't play first class cricket on a regular basis.

  • on May 9, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    Sammy did his best. If West Indies' top five batsmen consistently fail to perform, what hope does he have of winning games? Sammy at least seems to have steadily improved as a batsman, especially in ODIs and T20s.

  • adesh007 on May 9, 2014, 18:31 GMT

    Was wondering when this would happen,by far the best choice of the current captains in each of the west indian islands.

  • yuvi_gladiator on May 9, 2014, 18:27 GMT

    they should gotten rid of ramdin and brought in simmons, instead they made him the captain, ridiculous is the word for windies management

  • WeldonHosten on May 9, 2014, 17:55 GMT

    As a West Indian fan I want to first congratulate Darren Sammy for holding our cricket together over the years. Sammy you have done a great service to West Indies cricket both on and off the field. I admire you as a player and a person, the passion and dedication you have for the game and more importantly the knowledge of what it is to be a West Indian cricketer. This is something that 75% of the current setup is lacking and I have seen how you marshal the guys on and off the field to perform. Having said that, I believe that the time has come for you to pass on the baton in the test format of the game. I am sure that you will be the first person to concur with me on that since giving up that position gives the team more options in the bowling department. I will also like to say congrats to Ramdin on his appointment. His cricket has improved significant after that motivation by Sir Viv. I hope he emulates Sammy's love and passion for the game and understand his role in the team

  • on May 9, 2014, 17:45 GMT

    Wow! Did not see that coming. That said he has become more assured and consistent with his batting. Maybe captaincy will be the making of him. C'Mon guys, "Rally round the West Indies"

  • tinkertinker on May 9, 2014, 17:15 GMT

    How did sammy survive so long? his test stats are awful.

    Takes just 2 wickets per game and has the batting figures of a test match number 8 or 9.

  • mus_tard on May 9, 2014, 17:01 GMT

    Calling for Samuels as captain is pure nonsense as he does not even deserve a spot on the team with his performances over the last year. He also failed miserably in the couple of innings he played in the regional tournament. Blackwood or Carter should take his place. At the same time, Gayle does not deserve a spot but he will get it especially since there is big plans for his 100th test in Sabina. A better opening partnership would be to start developing Brathwaite and Powell together as they have had success together for the A-team and both had averages in the 40's this past regional season.

  • Reuelsean on May 9, 2014, 16:55 GMT

    Great decision. Wish Ramdin all the best.

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:43 GMT

    Just shows that WI cupboard is pretty empty? Denesh Ramdin to captain WI? Goodness... God save WI cricket...

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    a good decision for me...ppl might question his current form but I see the decision is purely on the basis of his experience, desire & love for test cricket...& he played some very good test cricket in past All the best (y)

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:39 GMT

    Sammy should have seen it coming when they got rid of him as ODI captain and the last chairman of the board. Then Dwayne Bravo's statement about his side lining from the test arena.

    WI Will be at the same stage 3 years from now.

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:37 GMT

    Ramdin was in line to be Captain before until he completely lost his way and Carlton Baugh replaced him on a short term. Darren Sammy had alot of critics for his inclusion, but that Twitter message pretty-much sums up the class of the guy, he cares about the team first and foremost and is happy to accept any sacrifice needed to take West Indies cricket going forward. Nobody can argue with his contribution in the ODI/T20 set up, but it's fair to say that in the Test side, his presence did compromise the balance of the team. If all the players have Sammy's work ethic and selfless attitude to support his team mates, then West Indies cricket will take a positive step in the right direction.

  • CricketChat on May 9, 2014, 16:30 GMT

    Replacing Sammy as a test captain and even as a player is understandable as he is more suited to T20 format than tests and ODIs. However, Ramdin may not be the best choice. He himself wasn't a test certainty until very recently and is barely getting his bearings in that format. I would have liked Darren Bravo, by far the best suited for tests and still a long term prospect with age on his side, to be given that responsibility. Only time will tell if Ramdin is a good choice.

  • palash_ach on May 9, 2014, 16:28 GMT

    it reminds me Sammy's comment during the World T20 " Probably, if we win this tournament, I won't be Test captain." http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/quote/733689.html

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    Thank God Sammy is gone. No offense to the guy but he is simply NOT good enough at test level.

  • on May 9, 2014, 16:18 GMT

    Thanks for the years Sammy but it's time to step down now. Denesh was the Vice Captain so it's only natural that the Vice Captain take over. Especially one who has been captain of every international side he's played for and now finally the senior team. The only WI player who is more consistent than him in Tests in the past 3 years is Chanderpaul, averaging in the 40's plus he's great behind the stumps. All the best and let's do this :-)

  • on May 9, 2014, 15:54 GMT

    I honestly think that giving the captaincy to Ramdin is a mistake. I think that some one like Kirk Edwards ,Marlon Samuels should be considered for that.

  • on May 9, 2014, 15:48 GMT

    wasting time, bring pollard to test.Make a player captain who can fight at any situation.Donno what Ramdin did in the past.Another draw back by WI selection committee

  • essky on May 9, 2014, 15:47 GMT

    Sachit it seems as if you hate Ramdin. Ramdin has the experience of captaining and his performances have been on the up. He captained at youth level so we can be confident that his familiarity with captaincy would reduce the likelihood of his position affecting his performance too much. Sammy's reign was necessary and useful, but sadly it has run its course to the end and should have been changed earlier when the decline in the team performance under him started. Why hope for the future when you have a capable leader in the side currently. Skipping the natural successor would always cause problems unless the replacement does wonders in his new job. WI should have learnt from overlooking Haynes twice leaving the team without reliable leadership, a reliable opener, and fostering disunity in the region. We started afresh with Sammy, let's continue to build, not delay construction in hopes that another person with potential might fulfill their promise, as we know only in WI can there be a side full of 30 year olds with potential.

  • on May 9, 2014, 15:42 GMT

    Sammy beat NZ comprehensively at home so the first test for Ramdin is to match or exceed that record. I wish him well. But I believe that when his tenure as captain is over, he will have left WI in the same position on the Test rankings as he inherited them.

  • on May 9, 2014, 15:35 GMT

    We must thank Sammy for his contribution, but we all saw this coming. His inclusion left the team unbalanced.

    Ramdin for me is only one of two automatic picks for the WI test team (the other is Chanderpaul), who has been consistent since his "talk nah" incident (averaging low 40s). Hopefully his inclusion can see a return to form for Darren Bravo (what was his beef with Sammy?) and possibly a return to the test arena for Sarwan.

  • LEGEND_KILLAS on May 9, 2014, 15:28 GMT

    Ramdin isn't even a good test match player and we making him captain.. Awful choice

  • mus_tard on May 9, 2014, 15:01 GMT

    This is a very good move. Sammy does not warrant a place in the test team bowling 10-15 wicketless overs and scoring 20-25 runs each test. Sammy is still a must in the limited overs squads but absolutely no place in tests. His captaincy record over the last 3 years carried us from 8th, to 6th, and back to 8th, with 3 of our last 5 tests finishing inside 3 days. Ramdin has been the most consistent test batsman over the last 2-3 years after Chanderpaul, averaging in the mid 40's. He is the first WI wicket-keeper to score an ODI century. He has been a rather successful for TnT. So now, we can play 4 genuine bowlers with the extra batsman, or include Dwayne Bravo at 7 for the genuine all-rounders spot as he has hugely improved his batting over the last year, and is a much better wicket taker than Sammy.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on May 9, 2014, 14:54 GMT

    AnSen, calls for a recall of F.Edwards to the test side are not very sensible - he is far from the level required anymore. His pace has long since dropped and his accuracy rarely comes to the standard needed on the test stage. Rampaul is another that needs to be ignored - at least until he gets to the gym and works on his shocking condition. Far better to go with an attack of Roach, two others from Taylor (who looked well on track during the recent regional season), Holder, Peters or Mathew. Peters left arm angle and excellent ability to trouble batsmen with his movement and accuracy has never brought enough consideration from the selectors. Despite his age, I would consider him for inclusion for the forthcoming series. Mathew offers lively movement and variation which would bring qualities to the attack that are lacking. Holder deserves a run as a test first change bowler - his recent increase in pace has added the X-factor that was missing earlier. In future, Beaton + Jordan (+90mph)

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    Yea Viv, Talk na :) :) Do you remember this statement from Ramdin ?? Funny though.. :)

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    After bringing the team together and showing a more unified force than at any other in the last 20 years. This is his reward. Wow! Seems the WICB have it all under control.

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Seems a sensible enough move - Sammy's an excellent one day/T20 player but neither his batting, nor his bowling is suited to the longer format. The need to include him, as captain, means that the Windies struggle for balance in the XI

  • Divinetouch on May 9, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Good move. Denesh must now display the promise he brought to the game and propel the WI forward.

  • Riddymon on May 9, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    Never like hearing bad news when it comes to Darren Sammy but I think we all saw this coming eventually. Wish the Windies success with Random at the helm. Hoping they retain Sammy in the test team as a lower order batting option and 4th/5th change bowler and he has more time to focus on his game.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on May 9, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    Karan, Ramdin's batting has been good for over a year in the test arena. His leadership skills, although far from polished, certainly offer some hope. A change had to be made, not only for balance - which should now be much better, but also to try and instill some new life into the side, which had become quite flat of late. Sammy did a fine job initially, especially with regards to the unification of the players - but his tenure had patently ran its course. ONWARD AND UPWARDS!

  • razeez on May 9, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    Incredible that people question ramdin's form as one of the more consistent batsmen in the west indies team, only behind Chanderpaul in recent times. Just goes to show, people see what they want to see. Congratulations Denesh, you have been the right man for the job for some time now.

  • Sachit1979 on May 9, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    Not sure if it is wise move. Ramdin had been in controversies due his on field and off field acts. Moreover his own batting form has been fluctuating. Windies would have needed someone who could do justice with his own batting/bowling first and also has ability to hold rest of the 10 guys together to perform as a unit. I would have preferred Chanderpaul only to hold this role for a year or more until a replacement gets ready. Either of Kirk Edwards, Marlon Samuels or Keiran Powell could have been appointed as Chander's deputy and hope for future.

  • AnSen1984 on May 9, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    This will bring the right balance...Sammy is a good T20 player and quite an useful allrounder in ODI arena..but he simply doesn't fit in the test XI....may be now Windies can have Kemar Roach and Fidel Edwards to bowl in tandem and make it quite a fearsome unit!

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    I think it is a Bad decision. Darren Sammy had united the team comprising players from different islands. Removing him is like taking 1 step forward 2 steps back.

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    this move makes little sense...not sure if he can warrant his place in the team on the merits of his batting form. And how would this affect the team, 3 captains for 3 formats makes little sense.

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    WOW....did not see that coming....

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  • on May 9, 2014, 14:10 GMT

    WOW....did not see that coming....

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:14 GMT

    this move makes little sense...not sure if he can warrant his place in the team on the merits of his batting form. And how would this affect the team, 3 captains for 3 formats makes little sense.

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    I think it is a Bad decision. Darren Sammy had united the team comprising players from different islands. Removing him is like taking 1 step forward 2 steps back.

  • AnSen1984 on May 9, 2014, 14:15 GMT

    This will bring the right balance...Sammy is a good T20 player and quite an useful allrounder in ODI arena..but he simply doesn't fit in the test XI....may be now Windies can have Kemar Roach and Fidel Edwards to bowl in tandem and make it quite a fearsome unit!

  • Sachit1979 on May 9, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    Not sure if it is wise move. Ramdin had been in controversies due his on field and off field acts. Moreover his own batting form has been fluctuating. Windies would have needed someone who could do justice with his own batting/bowling first and also has ability to hold rest of the 10 guys together to perform as a unit. I would have preferred Chanderpaul only to hold this role for a year or more until a replacement gets ready. Either of Kirk Edwards, Marlon Samuels or Keiran Powell could have been appointed as Chander's deputy and hope for future.

  • razeez on May 9, 2014, 14:35 GMT

    Incredible that people question ramdin's form as one of the more consistent batsmen in the west indies team, only behind Chanderpaul in recent times. Just goes to show, people see what they want to see. Congratulations Denesh, you have been the right man for the job for some time now.

  • FOUR-REAL-QUICKS on May 9, 2014, 14:38 GMT

    Karan, Ramdin's batting has been good for over a year in the test arena. His leadership skills, although far from polished, certainly offer some hope. A change had to be made, not only for balance - which should now be much better, but also to try and instill some new life into the side, which had become quite flat of late. Sammy did a fine job initially, especially with regards to the unification of the players - but his tenure had patently ran its course. ONWARD AND UPWARDS!

  • Riddymon on May 9, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    Never like hearing bad news when it comes to Darren Sammy but I think we all saw this coming eventually. Wish the Windies success with Random at the helm. Hoping they retain Sammy in the test team as a lower order batting option and 4th/5th change bowler and he has more time to focus on his game.

  • Divinetouch on May 9, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Good move. Denesh must now display the promise he brought to the game and propel the WI forward.

  • on May 9, 2014, 14:50 GMT

    Seems a sensible enough move - Sammy's an excellent one day/T20 player but neither his batting, nor his bowling is suited to the longer format. The need to include him, as captain, means that the Windies struggle for balance in the XI