West Indies v New Zealand, 3rd Test, Bridgetown, 5th day July 1, 2014

Only be satisfied with big tons, Ramdin urges West Indies

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Denesh Ramdin has called for his team-mates to be less wasteful of their starts in Test cricket, after West Indies went down to New Zealand by 53 runs in Barbados, resulting in a 2-1 series defeat. The West Indies batsmen, Ramdin said, should learn to be satisfied only after they got "big hundreds" to their names.

"In the first innings, all our top six-seven batters got starts and nobody went on to make that big hundred. It is all in the mindset, the way we apply ourselves," Ramdin said. "If we are content with 50 or 60, we need to be bigger men and come out and fight and show what we are made of. We need to carry on from those 50s and 60s and only be satisfied with big hundreds - 160, 150 - to put the team in a commanding position.

"Test cricket is a lot of hard work and if you go out there and work hard you get the rewards for it. Hopefully this can be a stepping stone for some of the guys who did well. All the guys who didn't, it should be a wake-up call for them to do well in the future."

Ramdin singled out some of the younger players for praise, and said if the seniors could support them, it would spell more success for the team. "There were a lot of challenges along the way and a lot of positives as well. Young [Jermaine] Blackwood, Jason Holder, Kraigg Brathwaite, those guys coming in and getting runs for themselves... Hopefully they can go from strength to strength and the senior guys can pull their weight a bit more. That will augur well for the team."

Holder, on his debut Test, batting at No. 7, played out two hours on the final day in Barbados - seeing off a shot-ball barrage and attacking when it made sense - as West Indies battled to save the game. He scored his maiden Test fifty, before being bowled by offspinner Mark Craig after the ball hit a crack. Expectedly, he was disappointed not to see the team to safety. "My goal was just to take the team to the end, whether it was a win or a draw. I thought I played really well, but unfortunately got out at the last stage," Holder said. "After coming in, the situation of the game, I knew there was a lot of work to be done.

"Needed to build a partnership to start and to wear down the New Zealand bowlers as much as possible, frustrate them as much as possible. I came in with [the last recognised batsman] Darren Bravo there and we tried to build a partnership, unfortunately Darren got out."

Holder had also scored 38 in the first innings, and claimed match figures of 2 for 50 in 20 overs. Overall, he said, the Test gave him confidence that he could perform at the highest level. "I bring back that belief that I can score runs at this level. For me it was about making the adjustment from limited-overs cricket to Test cricket. I need to leave a lot more balls outside off stump, know where my off stump is, whereas, in the one day game, you tend to like to feel the ball on the bat.

"Bowling wise, it's about being patient, building pressure. On these flat wickets you can get wickets after building pressure. It's just my first game, looking to improve from hereon. It's a good start for me, but it's about being consistent."

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  • Dummy4 on July 5, 2014, 1:00 GMT

    LOLZ!! That will solve it! Thanks Ramdin... before that they all wanted less runs than were possible.... not! lolz.... semantics... just get better Ramdin, and learn how to set a field. You follow the play.. you need to predict it. You played NZ.. don't sweat it.. they're a better test team than you are. Get over it.

  • benny on July 3, 2014, 23:58 GMT

    dwayne bravo would not cause imbalence to the team at all! he is an incredible player with an average of around 30 for bat and ball! i know that doesnt say much but we all know how gifted he is ! ive always found him to be a spark player ( lift when needed )! type of player! i know he hasnt played first class cricket in the west indies but i still think that would be a waste of time expecailly in that useless competition!! he has stated that he infact does want to play test cricket ! but we all know he is injured! im sure yous will all eat your words in the future when the man starts dominating test matchs in a half decent test team!! just a couple more changes to the team and lookout!! we might just be competetive again!! LEAVE RAMDIN CAPTAIN!!

  • ESPN on July 3, 2014, 1:29 GMT

    Mr Ramdin has to understand that he has to lead by example. He has to walk the talk like all good leaders.

  • Shawn on July 2, 2014, 23:32 GMT

    The big mistake was playing the two spinners when neither are world class. Shillingford can't bowl the only ball that makes him worth anything as a bowler.

  • Patrick on July 2, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    @SirViv I agree with you about Bravo. An allrounder is a player who is a specialist in one area and quite good in another. Dwayne Bravo would be termed a batting allrounder if and only if his average was up near 40 or above with the bat. Until he commits time to FC cricket and shows batting form in this format, he should not be in the Test team. He would only cause imbalance like the bits and pieces player that Sammy was. And that goes the same for any other player posing as an allrounder. Excel in your specialism first. Bowlers cannot be picked solely because they can hold a bat at times. Holder needs to bowl and take wickets. I am sure he will get there as the talent is there.

  • Jack on July 2, 2014, 18:23 GMT

    Holder's performance was creditable as a 5th bowler. At an average of 126kph and limited stamina he is not ready for prime time. He will only get the returns of Sammy. Is this our goal? Matthew would have performed better with the ball and create more pressure. Narine was a WICB and Pybus disaster. Bonner would have raised the fielding effort, add to the batting and provide a little leg spin relief. Gayle and Chanders should give strong consideration to retirement so our fielding could improve. And those who call for the return of Dwayne Bravo seem to want our batting to diminish without any change in our bowling effort. Could you imagine a WI side with Bravo and Holder as our backup bowlers?

  • Dean on July 2, 2014, 15:11 GMT

    @Edward Wayne John, I don't think Dwayne Bravo has played a test for about 5 years and I don't think he is all that interested in playing the longer format. Even if he does end up playing test cricket again his previous record does not inspire confidence. His ave with a bat is barely above 30 & I wouldn't say he is anymore suited to batting at 6 than Ramdin. His bowling too has not been particularly effective with an ave close to 40. It's a shame really because with his talent he should have achieved have achieved

  • Dummy4 on July 2, 2014, 13:12 GMT

    Easier said than done, Mr. Ramdin given WI current team composition with a number of players who perform only for themselves, including yourself. I will echo what most West Indians feel and say, i.e. invest in a young team and hope for a gradual revival down the road. Anything else and you are blowing in the wind.

  • Dean on July 2, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    @PaddyRasta1, I'm not sure if you understood what I was trying to say. I totally agree with you that Ramdin should NOT be batting at 6 it's at least 1 place too high for him. I also agree that the most balanced attack (providing you have 4 quality bowlers) is 3 seam & 1 spin. However pitches in the carribean more often than not nowadays take spin so WI feel that they have to play 2 spinners. The problem is that if they play 2 spin & 2 seam, the attack looks short of a seamer. They don't have a Kallis type all rounder who can bowl & bat in the mid order, so the problem would be best solved by producing quicker pitches. This would negate the WI need to play a 2nd spinner and allow a more balanced line up of 6 batsman, keeper, 3 seam & 1 spin to be selected. With Taylor back, Gabriel & Holder both looking promising & Roach to lead, WI seam attack looks better than it has for a while so it would be to the teams advantage to produce some quicker surfaces

  • Patrick on July 2, 2014, 11:11 GMT

    @cricketdebator There is a major flaw in your argument. Who would the youth be? The cupboard is bare of players who show consistency at first class level. How many e.g average 40 or above? Not many, so you are getting rid of the backbone and looking to replace with players that lack consistency anyway. Blackwood being dropped was definitely a mistake but you will just be exposing players not ready for Test level by the wholesale changes you propose. They need experience to mentor them.

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