West Indies v Pakistan, 1st ODI, St Lucia April 24, 2011

Sammy surprised by turn and bounce

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Darren Sammy, the West Indies captain, has said he was "surprised to see the pitch offer so much turn and bounce" after his team lost the first ODI against Pakistan at his home ground in St Lucia. West Indies had a poorly balanced attack for the surface, with only one specialist spinner in Devendra Bishoo, and they managed to take only two Pakistan wickets in 41.3 overs.

Sammy, however, focused on the failures of the West Indies batsmen to post a challenging total. They were restricted to 221 for 6 in 50 overs. "We put ourselves in a hole when we were batting, and the spinners were bowling, so we really have to come better in the next game," he said. "We may need to show more intent in our approach.

"We have a new batting coach, and he has been doing some good work, but we can't lose sight of us reaching 221 coming from our position in the middle of the innings, so hopefully we can improve on this next time."

Pakistan's spinners deprived the West Indian innings of momentum, with Shahid Afridi, Saeed Ajmal and Mohammad Hafeez bowling 30 overs for just 100 runs and picking up two wickets. Ajmal took 1 for 25 while Hafeez claimed 1 for 36. "I was very happy when West Indies won the toss and chose to bat because I thought the pitch would help our spinners," Afridi said. "I think our spinners have been doing a great job for us in the last few months, and they again set things up for us."

The one West Indian batsman who had a satisfactory match was Darren Bravo, who anchored the innings with 67 before he was run out in the 45th over. Bravo, however, consumed 109 balls for his runs and said after the game that he wanted to score faster.

"I wasn't as fluent as I would have liked. There was a lot of spin and I wasn't able to rotate the strike the way I'm accustomed," Bravo said. "I have to fix that. I have to put that right. I have to find a way to turn over the strike in the middle overs and keep the innings going.

"Earlier this year in Sri Lanka we faced a lot of spin as well and I was able to keep the scoreboard ticking. The Pakistan spinners bowled some good balls, but to be a great player you have to find a way to score off the good balls not just the bad balls."

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  • westindian4life on April 26, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    Suggestion for Barbados One Dayers -

    In - Carlos Brathwaite, Kavesh Kantasingh, Darren Ganga, Ramnaresh Sarwan

    Out - Ravi Rampaul, Anthony Martin, Dwayne Bravo,Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards

    Ganga and Sarwan - can play spin - use feet to spinners vs Kirk Edwards better at playing pace and hitting through line of ball...Kantasingh - can be groomed into a test spinner vs Anthony Martin - good at containing in a one day game but not test match material...Dwayne Bravo - obviously needs to put more thought into his cricket particularly his batting and focus on his bowling as well - Carlos Brathwaite - investment for the test series and future - Ravi Rampaul - will never be a quality test match bowler - he isn't even above average at the 4 day level - Marlon Samuels just looks out of sorts and in need of an A team tour...

  • westindian4life on April 26, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    Sammy has performed in a consistently mediocre manner however the rest of the team fares no better so that i wouldn't be so quick to knock darren sammy...i do think he should be captain but of the one day set up...certainly in the test matches there is no way one can persuade me that he warrants a place in the team...that is honest pickings...brendan nash should be test captain...i wouldnt back giving darren ganga captaincy until he cements his place in the team

  • NCassie on April 25, 2011, 2:29 GMT

    WI selectors together with their gold spoon captain will continue to fail as the board are not putting the best players out there. The captain is a JOKE he is not fit ot lead or has the skills to make the team, as we saw the fight in the Trini players Simmons and the Bravos, Rampaul got 3 wickets in the T20 and still not considered for the 50 overs, Darren Ganga is the most successful captain in the region and still no pick, please please selectors put the cricket first and not your personal agendas and stop being ANTI Trini. The Gayle fiasco is already showing the politics and the lack of planning that is within the people running our cricket wake up and smell the coffee, shape out or please do the right thing and LEAVE!!!

  • howahluvmehwestindies on April 25, 2011, 1:34 GMT

    So most of us are wondering why Sammy is captain. The one quality in his favour is his apparent commitment to WI cricket. I also think he is a hard worker although I saw more evidence of this when he was new to the senior team. Seems the burden of captaincy is taking its toll. But when I look at his stats an see that he's played just 11 test matches, I'm really amazed he's appointed captain of the test team.

  • on April 24, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    WI fans, i know u guys r mad at the board. but look at this way, it cud be worst. just b happy its not PCB ur dealing with. u can never put the words normal and pcb in the same sentence. lol

  • on April 24, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    With total respect to the West Indians..... I don't see any thing special in Darren Sammy. His no. of wickets are less than the games he has played, He is more of a pinch hitter than a batsman, and he is captaining the Side!?!?!?. The internal politics within the WICB have severely damaged the WI cricket team. I would rather see Dwayne Bravo taking over as captain, don't know about his leadership skills but surely he is the Best in the WI side at the moment.

  • 44johter on April 24, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Sorry WI fans no matter who wicb put as captain they will continue to lose until attitudes change both with the wicb and the players, especially the players(and this will never happen in the caribbean). they can win because talent is there but they just keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. That attitude has rub off on the junior players they do not know how to play positve cricket. Yesterdays game is a typical example. Trust me even if sarwan and chanderpaul had played if would have not been any different. Even though we won the T20 we had the customary collapse afer a platform was set.They do not know how to win anymore and you have to question if they really want to. more embarrasment is yet to come. Go windies............

  • on April 24, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    wi batting was rubbish. against spin they played like a schoolboy.

  • smollineau on April 24, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    I agree that Sammy should not have been in the team but I will not knock him because the selectors keep including him and he need a payday like everyone else. I beleive that the WI selectors should look to Daren Ganga for leadership in the team but people please understand it will not be easy as leading TnT. on the WI team you have players from all Island with diffrent cultural background and beleif. Ganga has proven to be the best tactician as a captain the region, I will say he did fail as an opner for WI but he had proven to be a good middle ordre batsman fot TnT why not use him in that role and build around him. with him you could start preparing a few youngsters to fill in when his time is up because we might only to be able to ger 4 to 5 years from him but that is enough time to bring some youngsters up to ready status.

  • on April 24, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    WI cricket politics is getting worse. I'm a small islander; but I denounce this revenge business that's now going on. It's true that years gone by a few players from the smaller islands were disadvantged by WI selectors in favour of players from the larger islands. But we had so many 'exceptional' players that anyone who was picked was as good or better than any player of his type in the world. Hence, we beat everybody. But in recent times, I notice that our cricket administrators are mainly personnel from the smaller islands, who seem to be only interested in vengance for the past and not in the improvement of WI cricket. So they do things to create conflict between the Board and the established players whereby those guys would react negatively and give the Board the chance for example, to make Sammy captain though he has no place in the team! Even the St Lucian fans are protesting this stupidity by not attending the matches. BUT I HEARD THEM BRAGGING ABOUT GAYLE'S TON IN THE IPL

  • westindian4life on April 26, 2011, 1:07 GMT

    Suggestion for Barbados One Dayers -

    In - Carlos Brathwaite, Kavesh Kantasingh, Darren Ganga, Ramnaresh Sarwan

    Out - Ravi Rampaul, Anthony Martin, Dwayne Bravo,Marlon Samuels, Kirk Edwards

    Ganga and Sarwan - can play spin - use feet to spinners vs Kirk Edwards better at playing pace and hitting through line of ball...Kantasingh - can be groomed into a test spinner vs Anthony Martin - good at containing in a one day game but not test match material...Dwayne Bravo - obviously needs to put more thought into his cricket particularly his batting and focus on his bowling as well - Carlos Brathwaite - investment for the test series and future - Ravi Rampaul - will never be a quality test match bowler - he isn't even above average at the 4 day level - Marlon Samuels just looks out of sorts and in need of an A team tour...

  • westindian4life on April 26, 2011, 0:44 GMT

    Sammy has performed in a consistently mediocre manner however the rest of the team fares no better so that i wouldn't be so quick to knock darren sammy...i do think he should be captain but of the one day set up...certainly in the test matches there is no way one can persuade me that he warrants a place in the team...that is honest pickings...brendan nash should be test captain...i wouldnt back giving darren ganga captaincy until he cements his place in the team

  • NCassie on April 25, 2011, 2:29 GMT

    WI selectors together with their gold spoon captain will continue to fail as the board are not putting the best players out there. The captain is a JOKE he is not fit ot lead or has the skills to make the team, as we saw the fight in the Trini players Simmons and the Bravos, Rampaul got 3 wickets in the T20 and still not considered for the 50 overs, Darren Ganga is the most successful captain in the region and still no pick, please please selectors put the cricket first and not your personal agendas and stop being ANTI Trini. The Gayle fiasco is already showing the politics and the lack of planning that is within the people running our cricket wake up and smell the coffee, shape out or please do the right thing and LEAVE!!!

  • howahluvmehwestindies on April 25, 2011, 1:34 GMT

    So most of us are wondering why Sammy is captain. The one quality in his favour is his apparent commitment to WI cricket. I also think he is a hard worker although I saw more evidence of this when he was new to the senior team. Seems the burden of captaincy is taking its toll. But when I look at his stats an see that he's played just 11 test matches, I'm really amazed he's appointed captain of the test team.

  • on April 24, 2011, 20:37 GMT

    WI fans, i know u guys r mad at the board. but look at this way, it cud be worst. just b happy its not PCB ur dealing with. u can never put the words normal and pcb in the same sentence. lol

  • on April 24, 2011, 20:14 GMT

    With total respect to the West Indians..... I don't see any thing special in Darren Sammy. His no. of wickets are less than the games he has played, He is more of a pinch hitter than a batsman, and he is captaining the Side!?!?!?. The internal politics within the WICB have severely damaged the WI cricket team. I would rather see Dwayne Bravo taking over as captain, don't know about his leadership skills but surely he is the Best in the WI side at the moment.

  • 44johter on April 24, 2011, 17:59 GMT

    Sorry WI fans no matter who wicb put as captain they will continue to lose until attitudes change both with the wicb and the players, especially the players(and this will never happen in the caribbean). they can win because talent is there but they just keep snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. That attitude has rub off on the junior players they do not know how to play positve cricket. Yesterdays game is a typical example. Trust me even if sarwan and chanderpaul had played if would have not been any different. Even though we won the T20 we had the customary collapse afer a platform was set.They do not know how to win anymore and you have to question if they really want to. more embarrasment is yet to come. Go windies............

  • on April 24, 2011, 15:28 GMT

    wi batting was rubbish. against spin they played like a schoolboy.

  • smollineau on April 24, 2011, 14:18 GMT

    I agree that Sammy should not have been in the team but I will not knock him because the selectors keep including him and he need a payday like everyone else. I beleive that the WI selectors should look to Daren Ganga for leadership in the team but people please understand it will not be easy as leading TnT. on the WI team you have players from all Island with diffrent cultural background and beleif. Ganga has proven to be the best tactician as a captain the region, I will say he did fail as an opner for WI but he had proven to be a good middle ordre batsman fot TnT why not use him in that role and build around him. with him you could start preparing a few youngsters to fill in when his time is up because we might only to be able to ger 4 to 5 years from him but that is enough time to bring some youngsters up to ready status.

  • on April 24, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    WI cricket politics is getting worse. I'm a small islander; but I denounce this revenge business that's now going on. It's true that years gone by a few players from the smaller islands were disadvantged by WI selectors in favour of players from the larger islands. But we had so many 'exceptional' players that anyone who was picked was as good or better than any player of his type in the world. Hence, we beat everybody. But in recent times, I notice that our cricket administrators are mainly personnel from the smaller islands, who seem to be only interested in vengance for the past and not in the improvement of WI cricket. So they do things to create conflict between the Board and the established players whereby those guys would react negatively and give the Board the chance for example, to make Sammy captain though he has no place in the team! Even the St Lucian fans are protesting this stupidity by not attending the matches. BUT I HEARD THEM BRAGGING ABOUT GAYLE'S TON IN THE IPL

  • on April 24, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    As a West Indian I am just totally disappointed with Sammy as Captain...I cant blame him though...its the inept people who put him there...the President of the WiCB, the selectors, directors...its their selfish behaviour thats causing this...they are the one who must go...

  • on April 24, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    Wow... suprised by the turn and bounce? This guy is captain??? How the hell is he captain if he can't read a pitch, or do the relevant research into its recent history, which I'm assuming he hasn't done correctly given his "suprise".

    @mahicric: Sadly the public have lost interest in cricket, which is unfortunate. It's not helped by the death of the quick pitches, the decline in standards and an at best amatuer board.

  • imirfan on April 24, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Come on he is better looking thats why he is the captain.

  • MejiasBoy on April 24, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    Bravo states: but to be a great player you have to find a way to score off the good balls not just the bad balls. - I appreciate the honesty as well as the positive outlook, you can see he wants to improve as a player, this is a good sign! Also, yes windies limped to 221-6..BUT they batted the FULL 50 overs AND didnt cave like they did in the world cup QF, being all out for 100 odd runs, they showed fight in batting the 50 overs. as for Sammy, good thing is he is committed to windies cricket, bad news the team balance is off, at this stage I would prefer a committed captain. WI must start somewhere, and I prefer this young team, I dont mind losing with younger players, its more frustrating losing with them senior players, and remember WI U-19 beat australia recently in a ODI series, so there is more young talent to come! Trust me WI will be ready by 2015!! by then we will have a new captain who is committed to WI 100%!!

  • rama_krish on April 24, 2011, 9:43 GMT

    This present west indies set-up is a small island conspiracy run by St. Lucians in one questionable jurisdiction, Antigua (WICB chief, Team Captain, cricket venues, office location). That is why Sammy is in the team, Ganga is out, and an inept former test player is coach. Welcome to the era of continues licks for West Indies - now only if Ireland could come over and inflict some damage.

  • on April 24, 2011, 7:54 GMT

    THe most Worthless captain. Dareen Sammy... No worthy either in bowling or batting!!

  • mahicric on April 24, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    Is WI public lost interest in Cricket? Why there are no spectators in the stands?

  • on April 24, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    lol,has anybody seen the ground condition in ST LUCIA....it is bad than worse

  • YoBro on April 24, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    This guy Sammy is among the most worthless player WI have ever produced. I don't recall anything of substance he has done for them in the last 4-5 years. Why does he talk like he is the savior of the team? Why is he even in the team, in the first place?

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  • YoBro on April 24, 2011, 6:20 GMT

    This guy Sammy is among the most worthless player WI have ever produced. I don't recall anything of substance he has done for them in the last 4-5 years. Why does he talk like he is the savior of the team? Why is he even in the team, in the first place?

  • on April 24, 2011, 6:29 GMT

    lol,has anybody seen the ground condition in ST LUCIA....it is bad than worse

  • mahicric on April 24, 2011, 6:48 GMT

    Is WI public lost interest in Cricket? Why there are no spectators in the stands?

  • on April 24, 2011, 7:54 GMT

    THe most Worthless captain. Dareen Sammy... No worthy either in bowling or batting!!

  • rama_krish on April 24, 2011, 9:43 GMT

    This present west indies set-up is a small island conspiracy run by St. Lucians in one questionable jurisdiction, Antigua (WICB chief, Team Captain, cricket venues, office location). That is why Sammy is in the team, Ganga is out, and an inept former test player is coach. Welcome to the era of continues licks for West Indies - now only if Ireland could come over and inflict some damage.

  • MejiasBoy on April 24, 2011, 9:46 GMT

    Bravo states: but to be a great player you have to find a way to score off the good balls not just the bad balls. - I appreciate the honesty as well as the positive outlook, you can see he wants to improve as a player, this is a good sign! Also, yes windies limped to 221-6..BUT they batted the FULL 50 overs AND didnt cave like they did in the world cup QF, being all out for 100 odd runs, they showed fight in batting the 50 overs. as for Sammy, good thing is he is committed to windies cricket, bad news the team balance is off, at this stage I would prefer a committed captain. WI must start somewhere, and I prefer this young team, I dont mind losing with younger players, its more frustrating losing with them senior players, and remember WI U-19 beat australia recently in a ODI series, so there is more young talent to come! Trust me WI will be ready by 2015!! by then we will have a new captain who is committed to WI 100%!!

  • imirfan on April 24, 2011, 9:49 GMT

    Come on he is better looking thats why he is the captain.

  • on April 24, 2011, 10:31 GMT

    Wow... suprised by the turn and bounce? This guy is captain??? How the hell is he captain if he can't read a pitch, or do the relevant research into its recent history, which I'm assuming he hasn't done correctly given his "suprise".

    @mahicric: Sadly the public have lost interest in cricket, which is unfortunate. It's not helped by the death of the quick pitches, the decline in standards and an at best amatuer board.

  • on April 24, 2011, 12:23 GMT

    As a West Indian I am just totally disappointed with Sammy as Captain...I cant blame him though...its the inept people who put him there...the President of the WiCB, the selectors, directors...its their selfish behaviour thats causing this...they are the one who must go...

  • on April 24, 2011, 12:25 GMT

    WI cricket politics is getting worse. I'm a small islander; but I denounce this revenge business that's now going on. It's true that years gone by a few players from the smaller islands were disadvantged by WI selectors in favour of players from the larger islands. But we had so many 'exceptional' players that anyone who was picked was as good or better than any player of his type in the world. Hence, we beat everybody. But in recent times, I notice that our cricket administrators are mainly personnel from the smaller islands, who seem to be only interested in vengance for the past and not in the improvement of WI cricket. So they do things to create conflict between the Board and the established players whereby those guys would react negatively and give the Board the chance for example, to make Sammy captain though he has no place in the team! Even the St Lucian fans are protesting this stupidity by not attending the matches. BUT I HEARD THEM BRAGGING ABOUT GAYLE'S TON IN THE IPL