Pakistan in West Indies 2013 July 11, 2013

Ramdin dropped for Pakistan ODIs

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West Indies have left out wicketkeeper Denesh Ramdin from their squad for the first two ODIs against Pakistan in Guyana later this month. Fast bowler Ravi Rampaul, who injured his ankle in the opening match of the ODI tri-series a couple of weeks ago, remains sidelined. There were no other changes from the squad that West Indies picked for the tri-series ODIs in Trinidad.

Ramdin has hit only one half-century since his recall to the West Indies one-day side in October 2011, and has been dropped in several recent matches, both during the Champions Trophy and the home tri-series which also featured India and Sri Lanka. In Ramdin's absence West Indies used opener Johnson Charles behind the stumps, and haven't picked any specialist wicketkeeper in the squad.

West Indies haven't had too much success in the one-day format over the past 12 months, having lost away to Bangladesh and Australia besides a disappointing Champions Trophy campaign. They were also knocked out of the home tri-series before the final, and the only recent series win is the home victory over lightweights Zimbabwe.

They will be looking to improve that record when Pakistan arrive for five ODIs and two Twenty20s. The series begins on Sunday, with the first ODI in Guyana.

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  • on July 12, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    Well for my part the selectors need to start looking for more quicks and fast,gayle needs to step up big time,Samuels is a bit off but he will find his form bac Charles needs more practice with the gloves especially trying to read Sunil narine's off spinners axing ramdin for was expected but a lil harsh I guess it cause he ain't scoring many runs but Lendl Simmons wickets keep very well to well for tino if he can bowl much straighter and stop over compensating on bowling short he will be deadly bowler all this is facts and concerns am die hard West Indies fan but we need to start thinking harder on what we're doin when we play our cricket we have awesome players some of the worlds best we jus need to be a lot more consistent and we will be fine go windies go wi all in!!!!!!!

  • bajan0123 on July 14, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    The WI batting has been inconsistent and poor. If K. Powell is fit he should open with Gayle. Pollard should be dropped and Kirk Edwards bat at #4. Deonarine is not in the same class as Edwards. The team i would like to see in the next game is. 1. Gayle 2. Powell 3. samuel 4. Edwards 5. D.Bravo 6. Charles (WK)7. Sammy 8. Bravo(C) 9.Roach 10.Narine 11. Holder. The WI team has too many players who do not move their feet. It is one basic thing the batsman need to correct. I would like to know why Bravo bowl himself more than Sammy when Sammy is more ecconomical than him. I hope the selectors make the neccessary changes to the team. This is ODI not T20.

  • on July 14, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    I need to see some newbies on the West Indies side. We need a system of selecting players that is based on their current form. Put all of the hopefuls in a tri-team event an select only the performers and pay them by performance.

  • bajan0123 on July 14, 2013, 3:25 GMT

    I agree with some of the previous comment, however i think a the west indies selectors need to give Kirk Edwars a place in the team. I think he can strantghen the batting. He should beplaying in ODI and test. The west indies are playing too many inconsistent allrounders. Bravo need to step up and play like a captain in all aspects of the game. D.R Smith should have been selected also. Devon Smith got too many chances and has yet to deliver, he need to be dropped and never allow to put on a West Indies uniform again.The West Indies players need to be more discipline and show consistency. I am a fan and i wish them well.

  • Slemo on July 13, 2013, 17:40 GMT

    As long as our players continue to play "brainless cricket" we will continue to lose. They do not analyse the game, they do not think. That all.

  • on July 13, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    The problem with these selectors is they are confused between the tow formats,T/20 and ODI,we keep picking batsmen who can hit the ball over the top but not batsmen who are technically equipped consolidate an inning with we get into trouble early in ODIs,what they have done with this present squad is they've dropped their wicket keep not for bad keeping but for not scoring runs while batsmen keeps failing,but not only that they keep getting out the same way over 4-5 game period,what the WI team management probably needed to do because he's made test match 100s,was to bat Ramdin at #5 during the Tri nation tournament when these batsmen kept failing and have now all kept their places in the hope they get good in the Pakistan series,I do hope they get good myself

  • everfaithful77 on July 13, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    The WI SELECTORS did not surprise me with their latest team selection. In my opinion THIS GROUP OF SELECTORS have a very SHORT SIGHTED or MYOPIC approach to team selection. They look at each game or series and pick a team only hoping to win these games. There appear to be no VISION into the FUTURE of West Indies cricket. The future of Windies cricket belong to the YOUNG PLAYERS but if you fail to give them early exposure to international cricket the cycle of failure will continue. For years we have languished near the bottom of ODI & Test rankings. Yet our selectors continue to play the same players and seem to have settled into a policy of recycling failures. Eg the last time Windies played Pakistan in the Caribbean Devon Smith was dropped because he could not read the gentle offspin of Hafeez. How many times have Simmons made his way in & out of the Windies team ? This group of selectors are not going to discover the next 'Lara' or 'Ambroise' as long as they continue this policy.

  • on July 13, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    Devon Smith and Kieron Pollard have had too many chances now. Neither deliver. There are younger guys in Guyana, Barbados and Jamaica who deserve a chance now

  • on July 13, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    drop polard pls and play deonarine

  • simonviller on July 13, 2013, 5:57 GMT

    When the start is poor the whole innings falters . Good teams consistantly start and produce well . WI have a long way to go before they regain a higher standing in world cricket , because of the difficulty in getting the right mix . When batsmen are not producing , as we are , ,we try to compensate by bringing in an extra batsman which leaves a bowler short - this in turn puts more strain on the bowlers snd hence the whole team . Take one example of the many good teams today [ England ] with 7 batsmen , an alrounder or two , a top spin bowler and three top pacers who consistantly produce with bat and ball . If WI plays three pacers [which they should ] who do they drop ? Food for thought --- A dominant WI once played 5 pacers and remain at the top of the table , why were they able to do that ?

  • on July 12, 2013, 0:43 GMT

    Well for my part the selectors need to start looking for more quicks and fast,gayle needs to step up big time,Samuels is a bit off but he will find his form bac Charles needs more practice with the gloves especially trying to read Sunil narine's off spinners axing ramdin for was expected but a lil harsh I guess it cause he ain't scoring many runs but Lendl Simmons wickets keep very well to well for tino if he can bowl much straighter and stop over compensating on bowling short he will be deadly bowler all this is facts and concerns am die hard West Indies fan but we need to start thinking harder on what we're doin when we play our cricket we have awesome players some of the worlds best we jus need to be a lot more consistent and we will be fine go windies go wi all in!!!!!!!

  • bajan0123 on July 14, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    The WI batting has been inconsistent and poor. If K. Powell is fit he should open with Gayle. Pollard should be dropped and Kirk Edwards bat at #4. Deonarine is not in the same class as Edwards. The team i would like to see in the next game is. 1. Gayle 2. Powell 3. samuel 4. Edwards 5. D.Bravo 6. Charles (WK)7. Sammy 8. Bravo(C) 9.Roach 10.Narine 11. Holder. The WI team has too many players who do not move their feet. It is one basic thing the batsman need to correct. I would like to know why Bravo bowl himself more than Sammy when Sammy is more ecconomical than him. I hope the selectors make the neccessary changes to the team. This is ODI not T20.

  • on July 14, 2013, 22:01 GMT

    I need to see some newbies on the West Indies side. We need a system of selecting players that is based on their current form. Put all of the hopefuls in a tri-team event an select only the performers and pay them by performance.

  • bajan0123 on July 14, 2013, 3:25 GMT

    I agree with some of the previous comment, however i think a the west indies selectors need to give Kirk Edwars a place in the team. I think he can strantghen the batting. He should beplaying in ODI and test. The west indies are playing too many inconsistent allrounders. Bravo need to step up and play like a captain in all aspects of the game. D.R Smith should have been selected also. Devon Smith got too many chances and has yet to deliver, he need to be dropped and never allow to put on a West Indies uniform again.The West Indies players need to be more discipline and show consistency. I am a fan and i wish them well.

  • Slemo on July 13, 2013, 17:40 GMT

    As long as our players continue to play "brainless cricket" we will continue to lose. They do not analyse the game, they do not think. That all.

  • on July 13, 2013, 15:17 GMT

    The problem with these selectors is they are confused between the tow formats,T/20 and ODI,we keep picking batsmen who can hit the ball over the top but not batsmen who are technically equipped consolidate an inning with we get into trouble early in ODIs,what they have done with this present squad is they've dropped their wicket keep not for bad keeping but for not scoring runs while batsmen keeps failing,but not only that they keep getting out the same way over 4-5 game period,what the WI team management probably needed to do because he's made test match 100s,was to bat Ramdin at #5 during the Tri nation tournament when these batsmen kept failing and have now all kept their places in the hope they get good in the Pakistan series,I do hope they get good myself

  • everfaithful77 on July 13, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    The WI SELECTORS did not surprise me with their latest team selection. In my opinion THIS GROUP OF SELECTORS have a very SHORT SIGHTED or MYOPIC approach to team selection. They look at each game or series and pick a team only hoping to win these games. There appear to be no VISION into the FUTURE of West Indies cricket. The future of Windies cricket belong to the YOUNG PLAYERS but if you fail to give them early exposure to international cricket the cycle of failure will continue. For years we have languished near the bottom of ODI & Test rankings. Yet our selectors continue to play the same players and seem to have settled into a policy of recycling failures. Eg the last time Windies played Pakistan in the Caribbean Devon Smith was dropped because he could not read the gentle offspin of Hafeez. How many times have Simmons made his way in & out of the Windies team ? This group of selectors are not going to discover the next 'Lara' or 'Ambroise' as long as they continue this policy.

  • on July 13, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    Devon Smith and Kieron Pollard have had too many chances now. Neither deliver. There are younger guys in Guyana, Barbados and Jamaica who deserve a chance now

  • on July 13, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    drop polard pls and play deonarine

  • simonviller on July 13, 2013, 5:57 GMT

    When the start is poor the whole innings falters . Good teams consistantly start and produce well . WI have a long way to go before they regain a higher standing in world cricket , because of the difficulty in getting the right mix . When batsmen are not producing , as we are , ,we try to compensate by bringing in an extra batsman which leaves a bowler short - this in turn puts more strain on the bowlers snd hence the whole team . Take one example of the many good teams today [ England ] with 7 batsmen , an alrounder or two , a top spin bowler and three top pacers who consistantly produce with bat and ball . If WI plays three pacers [which they should ] who do they drop ? Food for thought --- A dominant WI once played 5 pacers and remain at the top of the table , why were they able to do that ?

  • simonviller on July 13, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    WI need to pick guys with cricketing technique and ability to read the game . Tino Best and Kemar Roach shows more technical skills in batting than all those who go before them ,but unfortunately they are the leading attack . It baffles me why a guy with Samuels experience doesn't bat at n:3 in a team so lacking in experience . WI need another openning batsman with Powell and set Gayle at no :3 or 4 , because Gayle is not suited for the no:1 position . It hasn't worked all this time and it's not going to going forward ,because the consistancy is not there . WI cricket will prosper in five years when this present group of superstars retire and a new group of well schooled players come on board . Like it or not ,that's my opinion folks .

  • on July 13, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    If you're not going to pic Chanderpaul to stable the innings because you think 'he's too old" then at least bring in Deonarine who has been in good form in the WIA vs SLA series, with 2 games in Guyana he would have been the perfect addition to the team at this time

  • NCassie on July 12, 2013, 23:53 GMT

    Bring back Ramdin and drop Devon Smith please! Talk to you main batters if you are not giving Ramdin the chance to bat earlier. Ramdin bats at #5 for T&T and tops the averages for wicket keepers in the Caribbean so why put the guy to bat where is doesn't for his country. Selectors need to come down on the so call stars in Gayle, Samuels and Pollard it is their consistent failures that are putting pressure on Ramdin game after game.

  • NCassie on July 12, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    So the selectors prefer to drop a specialist keeper and settle for standby keeper, lets face it they tried to chase 230 runs with the extra batsman and still failed. They need to come down on the batsmen like Gayle, Samuels and Pollard in that order. RAMDIN is the best there is with the gloves until proven otherwise. In the absence of Ramdin & the inclusion of Dwayne Bravo I hope They don't waist more time with Smith. Playing eleven should be: Charles, Gayle, Darren Bravo, Samuels, Simmons, Dwayne, Pollard, Sammy, Narine, Roach & Best.

  • on July 12, 2013, 23:20 GMT

    pollard is playing because what he might do.but I think I know what he can do.3 ducks in 4 games,as a captain he cant set a field.i watched the finals Guyana vs trinadad he was scared of beaton.whatever happen to what have u done for me lately.

  • on July 12, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    I was told that Simmons is a better wk than Charles!!

  • on July 12, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    west indies needs to play five specialist batsmen, four bowlers and one allrounder, amongst sammy, bravo and pollard. the allrounder should be sammy but if bravo is captain then it has to be bravo. wi does not neeed bravo, sammy and pollard on the same team unless it's a t20 game. these three is unfit and unable to bat in the longer format, it weakens the team.

  • on July 12, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    if our selectors do not see the logic in selecting an enduring batsman like chanders, despite his age, wr are going nowhere. also, it pains to see our pacers serving these short balls to world class batsmen like kohli etc. gibson just sat there and allowed this bs to happen. if our bowlers are properly instructed based on conditions, they should do a lot better. better teams are clearly outthinking us in modt departments.

  • on July 12, 2013, 14:57 GMT

    West Indies should look to bat 50 overs. The batsmen don't seem to do the good old practice of looking for quick singles, rotating strike & keeping the ammunition for the last 10 overs. The middle overs and middle order are terrible for WI. Thus, there is too much pressure on guys like Gayle to perform at the top.

  • grafix on July 12, 2013, 14:16 GMT

    Pollard definitely needs to be dropped. I agree with Devon Smith....cricketing mystery..

  • on July 12, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    why drop a specialized keeper and keep a batsman on the squad that in the recent Devon Smith a specialist batsman played 2 matches batted twice and made 0 while Ramdin a specialist keeper played 3 matches batted twice and made 13 i am not saying that ramdin performance is acceptable but it doesn't seem fair when one watches the stats from the recent series and when it comes to wicketkeeping ramdin 5 dismissals to Charles with 1... plus u have one of international leading spinners and a keeper that can't read his bowling now does that make any sense... west indies does not deserve to win any games much less a series unless they change their selection policy....

  • on July 12, 2013, 13:15 GMT

    Why should Sammy be made captain again to take pressure off Bravo and Pollard? Sammy seems to be doing OK as is. Besides him not being captain was a dream come true for most people esp. Rally_Windies

  • lazytrini on July 12, 2013, 13:07 GMT

    No prob dropping Ramdin on his form, but keep in mind how many runs Charles hemorrhaged behind the stumps. Simmons is a better wicketkeeper, even young Bravo is better. But what in heavens is Devon Smith doing there? There is no good rationale for this. This is a home series, it's not that hard to bring in new players.

  • shawnboomboomdeodat on July 12, 2013, 13:04 GMT

    Ramdin should be dropped since after the champions trophy. WI needs a specialist batsman to hold the middle order together & at the moment Sameuls is not at his best, Chanderpaul is the ideal person for that role. They need someone to build an innings after a Gayle storm at the top,whenever that happens, so Pollard,Sammy & bravo can comeout swinging at the end. Presently they are not batting out their 50 overs. Also i see them a victim of DL in d past few matches.However, I dont think Devon Smith will play a match now that Bravo is back, they will go with Simmons ahead of him.

  • 214ty on July 12, 2013, 12:52 GMT

    For those that read my comments before. I've been asking why is Ramden batting before Sammy, or even so why is on the team. His production has been so poor and he is still there. I ask, is that all WI have to offer. They need to train a real batsman behind the stumps just like South Africa has done with DeVilles. Need to leave Johnson Charles there, and work with him. Come on selectors, what took you all so long to wake up!

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 12, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    From that squad:

    Gayle, Charles, DB Bravo, Samuels, Simmons (wk), DJ Bravo (c), Sammy, Holder, Roach, Narine, Best

    Patently not the squad I would have liked to see, but the best one can do from what is on the table. For an ODI, perhaps a longish tail - but if the top seven can't do the job, you don't deserve to win.

  • simpleadmin on July 12, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    even by dropping ramdin surely nothing's gonna change much..y only him being targetted?? pollard,samuels have not at all performed in odi's,,,even though pollard got few good knocks in australia only on loosing cause,,mainly their attitude needs to be changed,,,,pollard shows commitment in big bash,ipl...but in odis there is hardly that commitment shown..

  • on July 12, 2013, 9:56 GMT

    well said ....why devon smith .....? one of the biggest cricketing mysteries i ve found in my life.

  • DingDong420 on July 12, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    Pollard needs to be dropped

  • CricketChat on July 12, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    Dropping Ramdin was a no brainer since he wasted multiple chances given to him. I think WI selectors should groom next set of WK/batsmen from this point on. What about the top order batsmen who keep failing to put up competitive scores for bowlers to defend? How do they get to keep their places? Aren't there any promising new batsmen in WI?

  • grafix on July 12, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    Why can't the selectors drop Pollard? Why is Devon Smith in the team?? The last time WI played Pakistan in an ODI series, Hafeez & Ajmal were spinning webs around him. If he can be in the team, so can Sarwan. WI board need to get rid of Gibson. He was an average cricketer and he is an average coach!

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 12, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    LOL Guyana v Pakistan is like an away venue and W.I don't even pick Shiv or atleast Deonarine that know the conditions and play spin well. Ajmal Hafeez and co are going to have a field day just wait and see this batting line up crumble again and again.

  • BRUTALANALYST on July 12, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    So what's happened to Kieran Powell then? Dwayne Bravo should not even be in an ODI 11 let alone captain it's 1 step forward 3 steps back for W.I. Pollard has shown he is not up to anything other than t20 he should be dropped to work out if he wants to work at his game or become a t20 traveler the Pakistan spinners will have a field day. 1 all rounder is ideal 2 1 too many and 3 is a joke, Sammy has shown he's the only 1 of 3 that can bowl a strict decent line an length whilst the other 2 serve up all kinds of rubbish like it's t20 and they think they're actually clever bowlers cos the stupid things they do in t20 death bowling get wickets (never mind it's cos batsman are tryin to hit every ball out park)

  • on July 12, 2013, 5:23 GMT

    I think this West Indies team just doesn't understand 50 over cricket. It is the most difficult form of cricket in most ways, because it requires patient aggression. You can't be entirely defensive like a test cricketer, and you can't be entirely aggressive like T20 players. Watching Gayle, Bravo, Charles, Pollard and Sammy, you get the sense that they are impatient to play themselves in, so they throw away their wickets. Even Samuels did this! The fast bowlers, Best, Roach and Rampaul are so keen to bowl as fast as theycan that they have little control of their lengths and direction, thus the many wides lack of yorkers. Narine is great but needs more support. I think Shillingford and Chanderpaul should be playing 50 over cricket for this team, and Sammy should captain again for now. What's the point of having different captains for each format, yet all the same players in all of them? Also, wicketkeeping is an art, so they need a specialist for that spot.

  • PUT-RAN on July 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    I totally agree with they SNIFFLEATHER , WI should give Sarwan a contract so THAT he can concentrate on playing cricket not just picking him to play 2 games here and there and if he fail that's it for him.

    This is really disgusting , what the hell Holder and Devon Smith doing in the team, how they got selected ? Instead both they should opt for Sarwan and Dweyne Smith.

  • simonviller on July 12, 2013, 4:46 GMT

    Maybe WI should open with Smith and Simmons and bat Gayle at No :3 ,because Gayle seems to be having some issues at the top for a while .

  • on July 12, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    The schizophrenia in WI selection policy continues. The one guy who is showing some aggressive consistency is now burdened as a keeper; the one keeper who deserves a chance to make amends for his recent reprimand is ejected; the Roy Fredericks look a like who is a perennial failure is allowed to continue. Nothing more than scattered brain tissue.

  • on July 12, 2013, 4:31 GMT

    this time WI selectors did 2 mistakes Devon smith and Pollard had been dropped. Dwayne Smith,Kirk Edwards,Kieron Powel would be included.Johnson Charles or Lendl Simmons keeping for WI is good idea.

    MS Dhoni is keeping for India is example.

    Devon Smith is waste.Kieron Pollard also done nothing for WI in ODI's his centuries in 50 overs only came in losing games.

  • on July 12, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    I keep saying this over and over...A better WI batting line up must include Shiv...

  • on July 12, 2013, 4:17 GMT

    Still no Lendl Simmons? Really West Indies Selectors? Really?

  • jahbert58 on July 12, 2013, 3:44 GMT

    Make know sense! Ramdin is WI premier w-keeper. Grant you he is no Dhoni maybe the selectors should expect that kind of performance from those other so call top order batsmen. why is Chanderpaul not been given a second chance maybe then WI can bat 50 overs a game. NO CHANGES AGAINST PAKISTAN? from the embarrassment in australia to now WI hav'nt shown much improvement in all form of the games.England, India. Australia and others are playing there young talent why are we the last too respond

  • on July 12, 2013, 3:33 GMT

    Dw smite a rashal r sarwan k powal d thomas(wk) r rampul f edwadse j taylor d biso n millar k edwasdse a barata

  • westindiesupporter on July 12, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    really bad team selection.What is Best doing in the team.He always spoils the bowling of WI.The loss of Rampaul is also a big one.Where is Lionel Baker,he was a decent bowler.Devon smith should be replaced by Andrew Fletcher (can also keep)

  • on July 12, 2013, 3:24 GMT

    This is total nonsense Devon smith still in the team and @samwinston mention that IPL pollard should play and bat because he is a special player , who last 5 one day innings didn't total 50 , wonder what special way is he and then what is chanderpaul . This team is a total joke Devon , keiron , Tino should not be in this team if you are building a team . If they can drop Sarwan who did more for West Indies than pollard , then why can't they drop pollard , something doesn't add up . I am disappointed and I guess so is thousand of Caribbean fans .

  • on July 12, 2013, 3:08 GMT

    Hopefully Pakistan's player list would be different after this tour LoL...

  • aclarity on July 12, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    I cannot believe that the WICB still has confidence in its selectors and coach. The selectors continue the same failed policies. Is the team different? We continue to have all-rounders galore: Pollard, Sammy, Bravo and Holder. We only need two of them. And Master coach Gibson don't you think that Gayle should bat at 4 or5 and give the youngsters a chance to dance? Also if Charles is keeping wicket and you bat 2nd then he should not open so he can freshen his thoughts? We need a thinker not an instructor for coach. By the way, I am looking to see how Gabriel, Cottereal, Cumins, Carter and K Edwards do against Pakistan. I know Chanders will do well.

  • TeamSelector on July 12, 2013, 2:22 GMT

    Anybody else looking forward to the continuation of the Mohamed Hafeez vs Devon Smith saga ... lol

  • on July 12, 2013, 2:21 GMT

    I agree with SNIFFLEATHER, the West Indies have been solid test match cricket in the last few years and have been unlucky in a few series recently against the higher ranked teams, and in order to improve on those results they need to have a settled batting line up with guys like Powell, DM Bravo and maybe Charles if he can develop his keeping skills as well as a fiery pace attack with Best and Roach along with a few younger guys like Cummins and Holder, as Winfield Knight has correctly pointed out.

  • satishchandar on July 12, 2013, 2:00 GMT

    Ramdin might not be a great keeper or a good finisher with the bat but still, i would like him to hold place in the squad.. Can't bank on Charles to keep wickets.. He doesnt look spontaneous.. Give more responsibility to Ramdin.. Make him bat above Pollard and let Pollard bat even below Sammy at 8.. Use Pollard ONLY for power hitting..

  • on July 12, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    Does any of the cricketing fanatics or the west indies diehearted supporters, really thing that wi have any chance of beating pakistan.You are what your record say you are - their records against good quality bowling speak volume. Are they still depending on Gayle to get off? Or if he gets off! Bowlers/captains with some dept of cricket sense have devised the way to get Gayle out - ask Bollinger of Australia. This team is not a balance . There are too many allrounders. By the way one cricket great, said that Pollard is no cricketer.

  • on July 12, 2013, 1:36 GMT

    chander is the man who can hold the batting together and draws a large crowd......

  • on July 12, 2013, 1:28 GMT

    game playing in Guyana but no Guyanese in squad

  • on July 12, 2013, 1:15 GMT

    According to the averages on Cricinfo. Ramdin bats 2 innings averages 6.5. Devon Smith bats 2 innings, 2 ducks, average 0.00. Guess who gets dropped for batting. Most of the Batsmen fail but the keeper gets dropped for his batting. Charles is not a keeper he is at best a ball stopper. If you replacing Ramdin pick another specialist keeper.

  • PACERONE on July 12, 2013, 1:11 GMT

    When you have experienced bowlers that keep leaking runs contiguously they have to be removed.Forget about them picking up two wickets early them bowling rubbish after.We have young eager bowlers that we need to try.As for batsmen we will have to bring back Nash and Chanderpaul to bring stability to our batting.Our players and the people in charge at the games do not know how to plan a game.We get caught doing the wrong things every time.

  • on July 12, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    If Pakistan loses to West Indies in the 5 one days series 5-0 .. they should entirely change every member of the current team and bring in a new Captain .. as the old war horses are not good any more.

  • on July 12, 2013, 0:24 GMT

    they definetly need chanderpaul back as odi needs proper batsmen in the middle overs. i think west indies selectors have got confused brcause of they t20 success.

  • siddhartha87 on July 12, 2013, 0:10 GMT

    Pollard and Captain Bravo must start to play more sensibly.

  • on July 11, 2013, 23:26 GMT

    Pollard and Devon smith should also be dropped. West Indies selectors can raise your pressure

  • abhishek9415 on July 11, 2013, 23:06 GMT

    I think Dwayne Smith deserves place too. His inclusion in the team might put pressure on Pollard to perform....who by the looks seems to be having torrid time with the bat.

  • Batmanindallas on July 11, 2013, 23:00 GMT

    Pollard and Devon smith should have been dropped too...What is Gayle doing?

  • on July 11, 2013, 22:49 GMT

    I think windies should be drrop devon smith & his place given chance to dwayne smith in for middle order

  • vladtepes on July 11, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    it is utterly ridiculous, but not surprising, the way the selectors have always treated ramdin. he's the best keeper in the caribbean and a capable bat, but they never give him the full run they have given less-deserving players. what, did he steal somebody's chickens or something? the keep him in and out of the lineup while they try in vain to find someone better. johnson charles is a chris gayle clone and a horrid keeper, neither of which is good for the team. west indies need more builders like samuels, shiv, sarwan and darren bravo at the top, and keep bashers like gayle, pollard and johnson in the middle and lower. first build for the only real cricket: test cricket. despite the naysayers sammy has been a huge success as WI captain and as a player in both formats. stop messing about and reinstate him. narine is brilliant in odi but unproven in tests. add 4 pacemen and somebody please teach the batsmen to rotate the strike with singles!!

  • on July 11, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    The West Indian selectors need to be held accountable for the team selection. I remember persons saying Sammy can only make the West Indian team only if he is captain. If that was the case why is he not the captain of the one day side and take the pressure off bravo and pollard. West Indies also need another specialist bats man in the middle. This team of four openers is nonsense and fruitless . Where is Shiv.

  • on July 11, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    Windies is a different team. They have been unlucky in their recent matches thanks to rain and D/L and not to mention brain freezes from Pollard! But they should mix things up a bit. Can Sammy be promoted up the order as a shock pinch hitter to stun the opposition? Chris Gayle needs to step up and play with more responsibility. He is capable of so much more.

  • SamWintson92 on July 11, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    Finally Ramdin's dropped. A balanced team should have a keeper who can bat decently like Charles. How on earth Devon Smith is still in the team ? He made two ducks in the tri series I guess. Simmons played well & he can be a good hitting option at 6/7. For me, Darren Bravo's the man to bat through for WI. Pollard failed but the fact is that he's a special player. Let him bat at 5 to get his eyes in before attacking. WI should include a batsman with good domestic stats in place of Devon Smith who has moderate stats so far. My starting XI for 1st ODI: 1 Gayle 2 Charles (WK) 3 Darren Bravo 4 Samuels 5 Pollard 6 Simmons 7 Dw Bravo 8 Sammy 9 Narine 10 Best 11 Roach. Holder (12th men)

  • on July 11, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    Pakistan Coming into the series with major changes in the batting line up after there disappointed CT. Pak bowling attack definitely have upper head due to World class spin attack. Afridi, Ajmal and the left hand specialist Spinner M Hafeez who will be eager to bowl Windies Lefties. He already done lot damage against Windies in recent times. Pak batting is better then CT. So looking forward to this series.I'm putting my Money on Pakistan.

  • on July 11, 2013, 19:12 GMT

    they should give Sarwan a contract so he could concentrate on playing cricket not just picking him to play 2 games here and there and if he fail that's it for him.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 11, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    Re: Winfield Knight,

    I cannot agree with you regarding the West Indies test performances of late - they have been playing good, competitive cricket in the only true format of the game for a couple of years now - with a nice string of results too. The shorter the format, the closer the teams levels are drawn - I never measure a team solely by ODI/T20 status. Test cricket is the REAL measure of a team, and the Windies are improving. I want some changes too, but nobody will find the 5 bowlers who take wkts at 20 a go as you mention - it simply doesn't exist, especially in the modern era of featherbed tracks and limited short stuff. If we can find a selector willing to display some testicular fortitude and give Delorn Johnson, Miguel Cummins and Jason Holder a run in the test squad, along with Tino and Roachy, then I am sure we will see a fine attack emerge. Kieron Powell and Darren Bravo are two good to better young batsmen, another one would be nice - plus a competent keeper-batsman.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Hopefully now Charles knows he is the keeper now the coach can really work on his keeping. Matt Prior wasn't the best keeper at first but he worked on it and is really good now. Charles need to focus and he can be good.

  • bluhunter on July 11, 2013, 18:53 GMT

    The inclusion of Devon Smith made my day. WI selectors continue to make the same mistakes they have been making for the last 15 years. Devon Smith is only a Regional Star. He cannot score runs on the International stage.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    I think that Ramdin deserved this. But, if the selectors are in this frame of mind, many others could have been cut. But, in the last match, Charles wasn't very stable behind the stumps. They should have selected another specialist wicketkeeper.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    West Indies should win this with ease if they don't mess it up. Spinners will be tough to tackle but then again we got the number 1 spinner Narine in this form. I can see Pakistan made a fair bit of changes since that terrible CT campaign but still the team is the oldest and ordinary. West Indies squad looks pretty young good luck!

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    It is time that the likes of Dwayne Bravo and Pollard performed. They have been nothing more than bits and pieces players. Both of them need to show some responsibility. Moreover West Indies need someone to bat through. Everyone seems to be content making flashy 20s or 30s, which wont do. Someone has to hold the innings together. One good option would be to try Darren Sammy at the top of the order. Because captain or not, he looks like the only player who values the maroon cap and gives everything.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    To be fair, the past 3 yrs WI have been performing decent. They havent conquered the world but the performances under Darren Sammy have been decent. I disagreed with removing Sammy as captain of the ODI team, we finally had some stability so we should have kept him. It will be difficult for our players to commit to player cricket to the best of their abilities for WI, i think they are financially driven, especially playing in the IPL and other leagues around the world, so they save themselves for really matters which is the big pay days. West Indies cricket is just a time filler unfortunately.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 11, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Ramdin should be replaced - another overdue decision. Simmons should take the gloves, allow young Charles to concentrate on his batting. Play Holder, Roach and Best - pace, pace, pace

  • on July 11, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    Keiron pollard should be out as well, Devon smith too and bravo y is he still there..i prefered sammy as captain ..pollard and.sammy needs to revaluate them selves because they are playing poorly..we need.some test cricket..

  • on July 11, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    In order for Windies to move up any of the major forms of cricket in ODI and the TEST arena they need a total revamp. Five international quality batsmen who value their wicket (not batsmen averaging in their 20's are early 30's) are desparately needed as well as at least 5 bowler's averaging in their early 20's. West Indies also should just keep Jonathan Charles as their wicket keeper batsmen as he is the best that they have (Dinesh Ramdin is just poor-can't believe he held a sign up to Sir Viv) and the allrounders in Pollard,Sammy,Bravo need to work to improve their game to rival the best in cricket at the moment e.g Kallis, Watson. It is high time West Indies start back winning and being more consistant. We need a team with a winning mind set not a survival disposition. Not since 1995 have we been on op of world cricket. 18 years is a very long time to be losing, I mean I'm tired of the excuses.

  • on July 11, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    In order for Windies to move up any of the major forms of cricket in ODI and the TEST arena they need a total revamp. Five international quality batsmen who value their wicket (not batsmen averaging in their 20's are early 30's) are desparately needed as well as at least 5 bowler's averaging in their early 20's. West Indies also should just keep Jonathan Charles as their wicket keeper batsmen as he is the best that they have (Dinesh Ramdin is just poor-can't believe he held a sign up to Sir Viv) and the allrounders in Pollard,Sammy,Bravo need to work to improve their game to rival the best in cricket at the moment e.g Kallis, Watson. It is high time West Indies start back winning and being more consistant. We need a team with a winning mind set not a survival disposition. Not since 1995 have we been on op of world cricket. 18 years is a very long time to be losing, I mean I'm tired of the excuses.

  • on July 11, 2013, 17:31 GMT

    Keiron pollard should be out as well, Devon smith too and bravo y is he still there..i prefered sammy as captain ..pollard and.sammy needs to revaluate them selves because they are playing poorly..we need.some test cricket..

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 11, 2013, 17:46 GMT

    Ramdin should be replaced - another overdue decision. Simmons should take the gloves, allow young Charles to concentrate on his batting. Play Holder, Roach and Best - pace, pace, pace

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    To be fair, the past 3 yrs WI have been performing decent. They havent conquered the world but the performances under Darren Sammy have been decent. I disagreed with removing Sammy as captain of the ODI team, we finally had some stability so we should have kept him. It will be difficult for our players to commit to player cricket to the best of their abilities for WI, i think they are financially driven, especially playing in the IPL and other leagues around the world, so they save themselves for really matters which is the big pay days. West Indies cricket is just a time filler unfortunately.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:14 GMT

    It is time that the likes of Dwayne Bravo and Pollard performed. They have been nothing more than bits and pieces players. Both of them need to show some responsibility. Moreover West Indies need someone to bat through. Everyone seems to be content making flashy 20s or 30s, which wont do. Someone has to hold the innings together. One good option would be to try Darren Sammy at the top of the order. Because captain or not, he looks like the only player who values the maroon cap and gives everything.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    West Indies should win this with ease if they don't mess it up. Spinners will be tough to tackle but then again we got the number 1 spinner Narine in this form. I can see Pakistan made a fair bit of changes since that terrible CT campaign but still the team is the oldest and ordinary. West Indies squad looks pretty young good luck!

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    I think that Ramdin deserved this. But, if the selectors are in this frame of mind, many others could have been cut. But, in the last match, Charles wasn't very stable behind the stumps. They should have selected another specialist wicketkeeper.

  • bluhunter on July 11, 2013, 18:53 GMT

    The inclusion of Devon Smith made my day. WI selectors continue to make the same mistakes they have been making for the last 15 years. Devon Smith is only a Regional Star. He cannot score runs on the International stage.

  • on July 11, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Hopefully now Charles knows he is the keeper now the coach can really work on his keeping. Matt Prior wasn't the best keeper at first but he worked on it and is really good now. Charles need to focus and he can be good.

  • SNIFFLEATHER on July 11, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    Re: Winfield Knight,

    I cannot agree with you regarding the West Indies test performances of late - they have been playing good, competitive cricket in the only true format of the game for a couple of years now - with a nice string of results too. The shorter the format, the closer the teams levels are drawn - I never measure a team solely by ODI/T20 status. Test cricket is the REAL measure of a team, and the Windies are improving. I want some changes too, but nobody will find the 5 bowlers who take wkts at 20 a go as you mention - it simply doesn't exist, especially in the modern era of featherbed tracks and limited short stuff. If we can find a selector willing to display some testicular fortitude and give Delorn Johnson, Miguel Cummins and Jason Holder a run in the test squad, along with Tino and Roachy, then I am sure we will see a fine attack emerge. Kieron Powell and Darren Bravo are two good to better young batsmen, another one would be nice - plus a competent keeper-batsman.