West Indies v Pakistan, 2nd ODI, Providence July 17, 2013

Variation in pace works for Narine

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Sunil Narine, who took four wickets to set up West Indies' 37-run win against Pakistan in the second ODI in Guyana, said that a variation in pace had helped him succeed after a poor outing in the first match. Narine dismissed Shahid Afridi and Mohammad Hafeez, and took two more wickets to finish with his fourth four-wicket haul and his second best performance in ODIs, conceding 26 runs in ten overs.

"I just bowled a little quicker because on this pitch some were staying low and some were bouncing, so it was not an easy pitch," Narine said after the match.

He said he had not yet regained full fitness after suffering a finger injury on his bowling hand during the tri-series game against India in Port-of-Spain. "My finger is 90% okay," Narine said.

West Indies captain Dwayne Bravo was happy with manner in which his team had responded to pressure coming in to the game and said that their pre-match strategies had worked well.

"We lost the toss and were sent in to bat, which is something we wanted to do. I wanted a change," Bravo said. "I wanted the batters to go in there and free themselves, and score without pressure; that change in momentum worked for us.

"We lost Chris Gayle early, but the innings my younger brother (Darren Bravo) played with Johnson Charles laid the foundation for us. We know we bat very deep and we have a good lower order. It was not a 250-260 wicket. Our aim was to try and get 235. We knew we had the bowling attack to restrict Pakistan on that sort of wicket, which will play slow and low as the game progresses."

Bravo praised Charles, who kept wicket in the first two ODIs after Denesh Ramdin was dropped from the side. "With Johnson playing that role (wicketkeeper-batsman), it gave us an opportunity to lengthen our batting," He said. "We know our batting has been a bit on the shaky side and inconsistent. Unfortunately, our best wicketkeeper Ramdin was out but he still has a big part to play in West Indies cricket and one-day cricket for us. But so far, Johnno has been doing a fantastic job."

Pakistan's batting failed again and their captain Misbah-ul-Haq said that poor shot selection was a major factor for the loss.

"It [target of 233] was a good total on this pitch. I got the feeling that it got slower and slower and it got turn, so credit to them, they bowled well," Misbah said. "There was not much difference in the pitch between the innings, but I think they handled the bowlers better. For us, it was wrong shot selection and we kept losing wickets at the wrong time during the chase. We have been winning games while chasing - we won in South Africa that way - but today, we just played some bad shots."

With the series level at 1-1 and the next three games scheduled in St Lucia, Bravo said he expected a tougher contest because the conditions would favour both sides.

"I expect three hard games in St Lucia," Bravo said. "Hopefully, it will be a better batting wicket and the ball will come onto the bat, which will suit our batters. The conditions will suit both teams, as they are similar. I guess whichever team plays better on the day will win. I would encourage my team to stay focused."

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  • POSTED BY delboy on | July 18, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    @speng runs/innings = average. So if a player plays less test matches even if he scores the same number of runs in ODI the fact that he has played more ODIs will be reflected in his average.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | July 18, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    From time to time people comment in this forum without a clue. In the last game the WI conceeded 14 extras of which 3 were legbyes yet a bright spark is claiming Charles is not up to the job so Ramdin must be recalled. Most Wides and noballs are out of the keepers control..Critique the keepers drop catches, mis-stumpings and runouts but do not accredit all extras to him. Contrast also the extras conceeded by his opposite who is a specialist keeper.

  • POSTED BY on | July 18, 2013, 3:20 GMT

    @Ray24 - Agree with your comments. Misbah is not a capable number 4 batsman. Especially the way he played the last innings, he just builds an enormous pressure on the lower order. We need an aggressive player at 4 and Akmal fits that category as he is not afraid to play shots and can also soak up the pressure. 2-down is an important position and requires a strong player who can allow you to post a big total, even if Misbah goes on to score a 100 (which won't ever happen) the Pak teams score will still not cross 250 due to the style of his batting!

  • POSTED BY jack500197 on | July 17, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    So Pakistan lost the second ODI what is the big deal. Some comments are saying Misbah is too slow a batsman. Mishbah is a very responsible and calm captain. Every time he has come to a situation where we have lost a lot of wickets and instead of throwing his wicket he plays responsibily and makes sure we have a respectable total. Misbah has changed his game because of the tough situation the rest of the team put him in. The good thing from the second ODI is that Nasir and Umar showed some responsibility. I am confident the Pakistan team will do fine the rest of the ODIs and T-20s. We should bring in Junaid Khan and replace Asad Shafiq. Hafeez needs to play with responsibility, maybe he should come in third down and Umar Akmal first down.

  • POSTED BY Ray24 on | July 17, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Well done Afridi, best bowling figures for the team again. Misbah, please rotate the strike. That will do it for Pakistan. And play Shafiq at 4 and yourself as a floater, i.e. if wickets fall, come in or else let Umar come in earlier.

  • POSTED BY Speng on | July 17, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    In the long run the the Johnson Charles (or any other batsman-wicketkeeper) instead of Ramdin doesn't seem like the solution for the Windies. 3-4 missed chances in this game by Charles could have been decisive. What the WI staff and Ramdin need to figure out why he bats so much better in tests than ODIs (avg 49.1 vs 23.1) over the past two years. Just from the numbers it would seem that pressure to score quickly does him in more rapidly than you would normal expect.

    OTOH with the Windies batting lineup he shouldn't have to come in until 8 (behind Sammy and Bravo Sr) so there shouldn't be much pressure on him to bat very often.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | July 17, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    so at the end of the Day , Charles productivity with the bat has gone down since he picked up the gloves ...

    but BEHOLD ! his run production is now similar to Ramdin's and Baugh's ...

    So has the batting been lengthened ?

    NO - is is equal ... because Charles was the leading scorer, recently .. and Ramdin was dropped for Simmons, who has taken over as the leading scorer ..

    Both Charles and Simmons are the best ODI batsmen the WI have right now ... (STAT don't lie) and neither one of them should be burdened with the gloves ...

    Polly or Gayle or Samuel's needs a Rest !

  • POSTED BY roook on | July 17, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Misbah defensive tactics is allover Pakistan, Play aggressively doesnot mean to play rash shot but to rotate strike. I doudt under Misbah leadership things will change a much

  • POSTED BY mgr125128 on | July 17, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    Afridi's extraordinary but rare effort ( read inconsistent) assisted by WI batters gifting their wicket , purchased Pakistan the first ODI. Normalcy was restored in second ODI when an average total was found to be enough for Pakistan mercurial talented batters. Fans boasted on how Naraine was manhandled by Afridi. He had a rare off day in first ODI. He made Afridi and others dance the dance today and perhaps will do so for next 3 matches as well.Not to forget the other inconsistent player Gayle has not fired and he is due for a big one soon.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 17, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    where is shoaib maqsood and sharjeel khan? same old story who ever plays they still loose whats point picking harris sohail if you aint gna play him.misbah sends you to sleep they need a new think thank coz this one aint working bring back moshin kham.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | July 18, 2013, 7:33 GMT

    @speng runs/innings = average. So if a player plays less test matches even if he scores the same number of runs in ODI the fact that he has played more ODIs will be reflected in his average.

  • POSTED BY delboy on | July 18, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    From time to time people comment in this forum without a clue. In the last game the WI conceeded 14 extras of which 3 were legbyes yet a bright spark is claiming Charles is not up to the job so Ramdin must be recalled. Most Wides and noballs are out of the keepers control..Critique the keepers drop catches, mis-stumpings and runouts but do not accredit all extras to him. Contrast also the extras conceeded by his opposite who is a specialist keeper.

  • POSTED BY on | July 18, 2013, 3:20 GMT

    @Ray24 - Agree with your comments. Misbah is not a capable number 4 batsman. Especially the way he played the last innings, he just builds an enormous pressure on the lower order. We need an aggressive player at 4 and Akmal fits that category as he is not afraid to play shots and can also soak up the pressure. 2-down is an important position and requires a strong player who can allow you to post a big total, even if Misbah goes on to score a 100 (which won't ever happen) the Pak teams score will still not cross 250 due to the style of his batting!

  • POSTED BY jack500197 on | July 17, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    So Pakistan lost the second ODI what is the big deal. Some comments are saying Misbah is too slow a batsman. Mishbah is a very responsible and calm captain. Every time he has come to a situation where we have lost a lot of wickets and instead of throwing his wicket he plays responsibily and makes sure we have a respectable total. Misbah has changed his game because of the tough situation the rest of the team put him in. The good thing from the second ODI is that Nasir and Umar showed some responsibility. I am confident the Pakistan team will do fine the rest of the ODIs and T-20s. We should bring in Junaid Khan and replace Asad Shafiq. Hafeez needs to play with responsibility, maybe he should come in third down and Umar Akmal first down.

  • POSTED BY Ray24 on | July 17, 2013, 14:54 GMT

    Well done Afridi, best bowling figures for the team again. Misbah, please rotate the strike. That will do it for Pakistan. And play Shafiq at 4 and yourself as a floater, i.e. if wickets fall, come in or else let Umar come in earlier.

  • POSTED BY Speng on | July 17, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    In the long run the the Johnson Charles (or any other batsman-wicketkeeper) instead of Ramdin doesn't seem like the solution for the Windies. 3-4 missed chances in this game by Charles could have been decisive. What the WI staff and Ramdin need to figure out why he bats so much better in tests than ODIs (avg 49.1 vs 23.1) over the past two years. Just from the numbers it would seem that pressure to score quickly does him in more rapidly than you would normal expect.

    OTOH with the Windies batting lineup he shouldn't have to come in until 8 (behind Sammy and Bravo Sr) so there shouldn't be much pressure on him to bat very often.

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | July 17, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    so at the end of the Day , Charles productivity with the bat has gone down since he picked up the gloves ...

    but BEHOLD ! his run production is now similar to Ramdin's and Baugh's ...

    So has the batting been lengthened ?

    NO - is is equal ... because Charles was the leading scorer, recently .. and Ramdin was dropped for Simmons, who has taken over as the leading scorer ..

    Both Charles and Simmons are the best ODI batsmen the WI have right now ... (STAT don't lie) and neither one of them should be burdened with the gloves ...

    Polly or Gayle or Samuel's needs a Rest !

  • POSTED BY roook on | July 17, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Misbah defensive tactics is allover Pakistan, Play aggressively doesnot mean to play rash shot but to rotate strike. I doudt under Misbah leadership things will change a much

  • POSTED BY mgr125128 on | July 17, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    Afridi's extraordinary but rare effort ( read inconsistent) assisted by WI batters gifting their wicket , purchased Pakistan the first ODI. Normalcy was restored in second ODI when an average total was found to be enough for Pakistan mercurial talented batters. Fans boasted on how Naraine was manhandled by Afridi. He had a rare off day in first ODI. He made Afridi and others dance the dance today and perhaps will do so for next 3 matches as well.Not to forget the other inconsistent player Gayle has not fired and he is due for a big one soon.

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 17, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    where is shoaib maqsood and sharjeel khan? same old story who ever plays they still loose whats point picking harris sohail if you aint gna play him.misbah sends you to sleep they need a new think thank coz this one aint working bring back moshin kham.

  • POSTED BY roook on | July 17, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    Afridi or hafeez you cannot have both they are seriously inconsistent with their batting

  • POSTED BY on | July 17, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Good job WI bowlers and Bravos. WI just outplayed Pakistan easily. Look who's Laughing now AFRIDI!

  • POSTED BY on | July 17, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    Punchline statement for Pak batting -- Play aggressively upfront and batting would be fine!

  • POSTED BY khurramiqbal on | July 17, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Contiuning to my Comments on Pakistani team. If a good international side will score over 200 runs batiing first then Pakistan cannot chase, this is proven over 100 times. Yes Pakistan can chase over 200 runs but it will happen once in a blue moon. Second, if a good international team score less than 200 runs batting first then i think pakistan has the confidence to chase these runs but not all the time. I will not take you further back, champions Trophy and these 2 matches in West indies. Total of 5 matches Pakistan has crossed 200 runs just once. This is a serious problem. Pakistan at the moment are without impact players, Afridi is only one you have and Umar Akmal to some extend. But the other bunch of playes including the captian are defensive players. Razzaq is an impact player, bring him on. Our batting became Joke of the Year. Just see Indian Team they are all attackers from 1 to 7. Dhoni plays according to situation but he finishes the game and Mibah just throw the game.

  • POSTED BY khurramiqbal on | July 17, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    As Expected Pakistan lost the game. Pakistan team was never a good chaser but this is hopeless situation. Players changes everytime but the result always stays the same. The problem is we have defence frame of mind, our players are affarid to attack, i dont know why. either it is Misbah's influence or coach and management is not good enough to work with the players. And in the same time we have some medicore players like Hafeez,Asad Shafiq, Nasir (was good sometime back but i dont know what happened to him,he is now became a tuk tuk). All selector can do is to say goodbye to Misbah (although his performance is good but his influence is not good) and goodbye to coaches and bring on a new Attacking Captain but NO Hafeez please. We need to look in to our bowling as well Wahab and Asad Ali are just medicore bowlers. All we need is to find a right arm tear away fast bowler. No more left hand bowlers please. We have 3 already playing in the team now and Amir will soon join them.

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  • POSTED BY khurramiqbal on | July 17, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    As Expected Pakistan lost the game. Pakistan team was never a good chaser but this is hopeless situation. Players changes everytime but the result always stays the same. The problem is we have defence frame of mind, our players are affarid to attack, i dont know why. either it is Misbah's influence or coach and management is not good enough to work with the players. And in the same time we have some medicore players like Hafeez,Asad Shafiq, Nasir (was good sometime back but i dont know what happened to him,he is now became a tuk tuk). All selector can do is to say goodbye to Misbah (although his performance is good but his influence is not good) and goodbye to coaches and bring on a new Attacking Captain but NO Hafeez please. We need to look in to our bowling as well Wahab and Asad Ali are just medicore bowlers. All we need is to find a right arm tear away fast bowler. No more left hand bowlers please. We have 3 already playing in the team now and Amir will soon join them.

  • POSTED BY khurramiqbal on | July 17, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Contiuning to my Comments on Pakistani team. If a good international side will score over 200 runs batiing first then Pakistan cannot chase, this is proven over 100 times. Yes Pakistan can chase over 200 runs but it will happen once in a blue moon. Second, if a good international team score less than 200 runs batting first then i think pakistan has the confidence to chase these runs but not all the time. I will not take you further back, champions Trophy and these 2 matches in West indies. Total of 5 matches Pakistan has crossed 200 runs just once. This is a serious problem. Pakistan at the moment are without impact players, Afridi is only one you have and Umar Akmal to some extend. But the other bunch of playes including the captian are defensive players. Razzaq is an impact player, bring him on. Our batting became Joke of the Year. Just see Indian Team they are all attackers from 1 to 7. Dhoni plays according to situation but he finishes the game and Mibah just throw the game.

  • POSTED BY on | July 17, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    Punchline statement for Pak batting -- Play aggressively upfront and batting would be fine!

  • POSTED BY on | July 17, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Good job WI bowlers and Bravos. WI just outplayed Pakistan easily. Look who's Laughing now AFRIDI!

  • POSTED BY roook on | July 17, 2013, 9:36 GMT

    Afridi or hafeez you cannot have both they are seriously inconsistent with their batting

  • POSTED BY android_user on | July 17, 2013, 9:54 GMT

    where is shoaib maqsood and sharjeel khan? same old story who ever plays they still loose whats point picking harris sohail if you aint gna play him.misbah sends you to sleep they need a new think thank coz this one aint working bring back moshin kham.

  • POSTED BY mgr125128 on | July 17, 2013, 11:48 GMT

    Afridi's extraordinary but rare effort ( read inconsistent) assisted by WI batters gifting their wicket , purchased Pakistan the first ODI. Normalcy was restored in second ODI when an average total was found to be enough for Pakistan mercurial talented batters. Fans boasted on how Naraine was manhandled by Afridi. He had a rare off day in first ODI. He made Afridi and others dance the dance today and perhaps will do so for next 3 matches as well.Not to forget the other inconsistent player Gayle has not fired and he is due for a big one soon.

  • POSTED BY roook on | July 17, 2013, 12:46 GMT

    Misbah defensive tactics is allover Pakistan, Play aggressively doesnot mean to play rash shot but to rotate strike. I doudt under Misbah leadership things will change a much

  • POSTED BY Rally_Windies on | July 17, 2013, 13:02 GMT

    so at the end of the Day , Charles productivity with the bat has gone down since he picked up the gloves ...

    but BEHOLD ! his run production is now similar to Ramdin's and Baugh's ...

    So has the batting been lengthened ?

    NO - is is equal ... because Charles was the leading scorer, recently .. and Ramdin was dropped for Simmons, who has taken over as the leading scorer ..

    Both Charles and Simmons are the best ODI batsmen the WI have right now ... (STAT don't lie) and neither one of them should be burdened with the gloves ...

    Polly or Gayle or Samuel's needs a Rest !

  • POSTED BY Speng on | July 17, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    In the long run the the Johnson Charles (or any other batsman-wicketkeeper) instead of Ramdin doesn't seem like the solution for the Windies. 3-4 missed chances in this game by Charles could have been decisive. What the WI staff and Ramdin need to figure out why he bats so much better in tests than ODIs (avg 49.1 vs 23.1) over the past two years. Just from the numbers it would seem that pressure to score quickly does him in more rapidly than you would normal expect.

    OTOH with the Windies batting lineup he shouldn't have to come in until 8 (behind Sammy and Bravo Sr) so there shouldn't be much pressure on him to bat very often.