West Indies v South Africa, 2nd ODI, Antigua May 23, 2010

West Indies seek to bridge the gap

The Preview by Liam Brickhill
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Match Facts

Monday, May 24
Start time 0930 (1330 GMT)

The Big Picture

South Africa proved too strong for West Indies once again in the first one-dayer to extend the early success of their tour, with the change in limited-overs format making little difference to the hosts' fortunes. The architects of South Africa's win were Hashim Amla and AB de Villiers, both of whom went to centuries and added 129 for the third wicket as the West Indian bowlers failed to make the most of conditions that had plenty to offer the seamers.

"It was a terrific effort," Graeme Smith said after the game. "Hash [Amla] and I got off to a good start and in particular in his partnership with AB - it's always great to see two guys get hundreds and they deserved the hundreds that they got. They played superbly well."

Chris Gayle was understandably disconsolate after yet another patchy effort. But while it is easy to point out where West Indies got things wrong - the failure of their bowlers to land six balls in a row on the spot and the inability of their batsmen to build partnerships - it is less clear just how they can turn things around.

West Indies haven't been helped by injuries to Kemar Roach and Shivnarine Chanderpaul, and have called in Dale Richards for the second game. Other than that, they are largely stuck with the squad they have for the moment as other potential replacements for an underperforming batting line-up - such as Devon Smith, Darren Bravo and Brendan Nash - are away on tour with the A side, though it is possible they could be drafted in for the fourth and fifth ODIs. While there is undeniable potential talent in the national squad, and one cannot rule out an improved performance in the second game, it seems more likely that South Africa will maintain the gulf in class between the two sides.

Form guide (only completed matches, most recent first)

South Africa WWLLL
West Indies LWWWW

Watch out for...

David Miller has eased himself into international cricket with minimum fuss - albeit against a bowling attack that is lolling in the doldrums at the moment. His 33 on debut took South Africa to a winning total when they were looking shaky, and his unbeaten 23 in the first ODI also gave his side's scoreline a timely boost. In both games, he came in with overs running out at the end of the innings, but if he is given more time he already appears to have the capacity to make a big score.

For a player who has scored 5,092 runs in limited-overs internationals at an average of more than 44, Ramnaresh Sarwan's performances after his comeback from injury have been disappointing. His captain has made clear his desire for someone in the top order to take the initiative, and after a mediocre start in this series, West Indies desperately need Sarwan back at his stylish best.

Team news

It's unclear what meaningful changes West Indies might be able to make to their side, but they will want Shivnarine Chanderpaul and Kemar Roach back as soon as they have recovered from their injuries. Failing that, they will have to stick to the team that lost the opening game on Saturday, although there seems little point in asking Andre Fletcher to open at the moment and someone from the middle order - Sarwan, perhaps - may need to step up and fill a temporary role.

West Indies (possible): 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Ramnaresh Sarwan, 3 Dwayne Bravo, 4 Narsingh Deonarine, 5 Kieron Pollard, 6 Andre Fletcher, 7 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 8 Darren Sammy, 9 Jerome Taylor, 10 Nikita Miller, 11 Ravi Rampaul

South Africa struck a winning combination in the first game, and although they have said that now is the time for a fresh outlook in the side, they will more than likely stick to the successful formula.

South Africa (possible): 1 Graeme Smith (capt), 2 Hashim Amla, 3 Jacques Kallis, 4 AB de Villiers (wk), 5 JP Duminy, 6 David Miller, 7 Johan Botha, 8 Ryan McLaren, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe

Pitch and conditions

The pitch used in the first ODI looked far improved from the mottled, two-paced wicket in the Twenty20s, although there is still something in it for the bowlers. Taking nothing away from Amla and de Villiers' superb efforts, that South Africa reached 280 was in large part due to inconsistent bowling from West Indies. Unfortunately, there's a good chance that this game may be affected by the weather, with a high probability of showers in the area.

Stats and trivia

  • AB de Villiers has accumulated 486 runs at an average of 121.5 in his last six ODI innings, with his hundred on Saturday his third in consecutive innings, and his fourth in six innings since he reached 121 in the third ODI of England's winter tour

  • At the opposite end of the spectrum, Andre Fletcher's last innings of note was 48 against Canada in April. Since then, he has made just 55 runs in seven international innings, at an average of 9.17.

    Quotes

    "We want to play well, we want to win the series and we want to have a very successful tour of the West Indies."
    So far, Graeme Smith's men have had little trouble achieving their goals.

    "We need someone out of the top five to take the initiative."
    It may be stating the obvious, but Chris Gayle's batsmen should know what is expected of them by now.

    Liam Brickhill is an assistant editor at ESPN Cricinfo

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  • Boxilla on May 24, 2010, 12:50 GMT

    Cont'd... Even before one ball is bowled they've already been paid, whether they win or not, so what is their motiviation? It should be for pride, as mentioned before, but sadly it isn't. In the 70s and 80s when the Windies were beating everyone they barely earned a third of the salary they earn now, didn't have all the equipment, training, facilities and sponsorship but their mentality and attitude to the game was different. When Viv Richards was captain, he had no intention of lettiing anyone beat his side, especially England. They had the killer instinct to finish everyone off, again, this is sadly lacking in today's WIndies side. I don't know what the answer is to the WIndies problems of today, but it's certainly not because they come from different islands and can't train together - they all came from different islands in the 70s/80s too! By the way Chairtruck I'm assuming you're very young and have never heard of Sir Garfield Sobers? If not, look him up! WI fan since 70s

  • Boxilla on May 24, 2010, 12:36 GMT

    If people must post comments on this website PLEASE USE A GOOD STANDARD OF ENGLISH that we all can read and not like risk_love2's illegible sentence. Agree with what most of you say about Fletcher, Ramdin, Pollard and even Chris Gayle to some extent beind dropped as none of them are an assset to the team. Also agree about Baugh, Darren Bravo, Barath and Simmons being brought in forthe shorter version of the game. Chanderpaul has been a long and loyal servant to the West Indies and plays the game for the true reason it should be played - Pride - in playing for and representing the entire region of the West Indies and not for money as the players of today do, and therein lies the problem. Money. The players of today are paid far too much money and delivery very little for it - Pollard is a perfect example of that. I recall the WIndies attending boot camp and training really hard for the Stanford $20m bonanza, which they won against England very easily but since then have won nothing...

  • gr8_sachin_fan on May 24, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    @Chairtruck: Kallis is not only the greatest allrounder ever, he is also the greatest batsman ever to play ODIs.. There is no other batsman closer to him in ODIs.. Great acheivments for a great player, best wishes for him..

  • Pablo123 on May 24, 2010, 9:21 GMT

    Thanks Chairtruck !!! King Kallis all the way - the most solid and level minded cricketer any team could wish for. Brilliant. 300 games, man, I hope he gets a big one.

  • hazeltine on May 24, 2010, 9:00 GMT

    In the article "Bravo hopes to end "rough period", the article contends that Bravo has "responded" with scores of 20, 40 and 15. The fact that Bravo has been regarded as some sort of 'success' with what are hopelessly moderate scores says everything about the mental state of the WIndies team. Again, we had another WIndian player making some pathetic general statements about "putting in an effort in the nets and in preparation" after losing another international match, WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS STATEMENT REALLY MEAN? Bravo should be saying how WIndies need to bowl a certain line and length and push singles and twos when the boundaries when they are not hitting boundaries. Failure to do these things will be the reasons why they are GOING TO LOSE THE SECOND ONE DAY INTERNATIONAL TO SOUTH AFRICA.

  • KEVIN_DRAVID on May 24, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    I don't understand stand why west indies havn't found any keepar other than ramdin or fletcher . Pollard should bat at 4or 5. Gayle is just wasting him down the order. What happend to travis dowlin who did well for WI in recent past.

  • Anathema on May 24, 2010, 7:12 GMT

    this must be the most illegible piece of transcript i have ever seen in my life...

    Posted by risk_love2 on (May 24 2010, 04:52 AM GMT)

    ya i m agree wid most of u i cnt undrstnd y d fletcher is in d team..i thnk ramdin is good bcoz der is no gd replacement for him..nd ya simmons,2nd brove deserave place in team nd s wl s nash i thnk he is really gd batsman nd he is in gd form

  • on May 24, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    South Africa may be leading the series but Graham Smith has made little or no contribution to the side, he continually fails, yet his position in the team seems to be cast in stone. He is vulnerable on anything pitched on or outside the off stump and the only time he gets a FEW runs is on the leg side.Time to step aside and find another player to open with Amla or go back to the nets and learn how to get in line of the ball.

  • Mels04 on May 24, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    Congratulation for winning RSA. Please do us favour by dropping Dumminy and play either Pieterson/Albie at no. 6 or 7 as specialist finisher or batting powerplayer like we use to see him or let Boucher open the batting with Smith. Stop playing J botha as batting allrounder becos he ain,t like Symmonds/Shane wayne/Vectorri live him as spinner.

  • KeithHall on May 24, 2010, 5:18 GMT

    It's amazing that no one seems to get it up to this point that Keiron Pollard, the overnight millionaire, is totally useless to this West Indies team in any format of the cricket game. He, along with Ramdin, Fletcher and the omitted Wavell Hinds should not be allowed on any international cricket field unless they're helping the groung staff. Bring back Carlton Baugh, he is a much better keeper and batsman than any of them in the region and may the selectors, who I hope will soon be replaced also, get Marlon Samuels ready for duty as soon as his suspension expires. I hope he kept on playing the game during this unfortunate period of his career.

  • Boxilla on May 24, 2010, 12:50 GMT

    Cont'd... Even before one ball is bowled they've already been paid, whether they win or not, so what is their motiviation? It should be for pride, as mentioned before, but sadly it isn't. In the 70s and 80s when the Windies were beating everyone they barely earned a third of the salary they earn now, didn't have all the equipment, training, facilities and sponsorship but their mentality and attitude to the game was different. When Viv Richards was captain, he had no intention of lettiing anyone beat his side, especially England. They had the killer instinct to finish everyone off, again, this is sadly lacking in today's WIndies side. I don't know what the answer is to the WIndies problems of today, but it's certainly not because they come from different islands and can't train together - they all came from different islands in the 70s/80s too! By the way Chairtruck I'm assuming you're very young and have never heard of Sir Garfield Sobers? If not, look him up! WI fan since 70s

  • Boxilla on May 24, 2010, 12:36 GMT

    If people must post comments on this website PLEASE USE A GOOD STANDARD OF ENGLISH that we all can read and not like risk_love2's illegible sentence. Agree with what most of you say about Fletcher, Ramdin, Pollard and even Chris Gayle to some extent beind dropped as none of them are an assset to the team. Also agree about Baugh, Darren Bravo, Barath and Simmons being brought in forthe shorter version of the game. Chanderpaul has been a long and loyal servant to the West Indies and plays the game for the true reason it should be played - Pride - in playing for and representing the entire region of the West Indies and not for money as the players of today do, and therein lies the problem. Money. The players of today are paid far too much money and delivery very little for it - Pollard is a perfect example of that. I recall the WIndies attending boot camp and training really hard for the Stanford $20m bonanza, which they won against England very easily but since then have won nothing...

  • gr8_sachin_fan on May 24, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    @Chairtruck: Kallis is not only the greatest allrounder ever, he is also the greatest batsman ever to play ODIs.. There is no other batsman closer to him in ODIs.. Great acheivments for a great player, best wishes for him..

  • Pablo123 on May 24, 2010, 9:21 GMT

    Thanks Chairtruck !!! King Kallis all the way - the most solid and level minded cricketer any team could wish for. Brilliant. 300 games, man, I hope he gets a big one.

  • hazeltine on May 24, 2010, 9:00 GMT

    In the article "Bravo hopes to end "rough period", the article contends that Bravo has "responded" with scores of 20, 40 and 15. The fact that Bravo has been regarded as some sort of 'success' with what are hopelessly moderate scores says everything about the mental state of the WIndies team. Again, we had another WIndian player making some pathetic general statements about "putting in an effort in the nets and in preparation" after losing another international match, WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS STATEMENT REALLY MEAN? Bravo should be saying how WIndies need to bowl a certain line and length and push singles and twos when the boundaries when they are not hitting boundaries. Failure to do these things will be the reasons why they are GOING TO LOSE THE SECOND ONE DAY INTERNATIONAL TO SOUTH AFRICA.

  • KEVIN_DRAVID on May 24, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    I don't understand stand why west indies havn't found any keepar other than ramdin or fletcher . Pollard should bat at 4or 5. Gayle is just wasting him down the order. What happend to travis dowlin who did well for WI in recent past.

  • Anathema on May 24, 2010, 7:12 GMT

    this must be the most illegible piece of transcript i have ever seen in my life...

    Posted by risk_love2 on (May 24 2010, 04:52 AM GMT)

    ya i m agree wid most of u i cnt undrstnd y d fletcher is in d team..i thnk ramdin is good bcoz der is no gd replacement for him..nd ya simmons,2nd brove deserave place in team nd s wl s nash i thnk he is really gd batsman nd he is in gd form

  • on May 24, 2010, 7:07 GMT

    South Africa may be leading the series but Graham Smith has made little or no contribution to the side, he continually fails, yet his position in the team seems to be cast in stone. He is vulnerable on anything pitched on or outside the off stump and the only time he gets a FEW runs is on the leg side.Time to step aside and find another player to open with Amla or go back to the nets and learn how to get in line of the ball.

  • Mels04 on May 24, 2010, 5:53 GMT

    Congratulation for winning RSA. Please do us favour by dropping Dumminy and play either Pieterson/Albie at no. 6 or 7 as specialist finisher or batting powerplayer like we use to see him or let Boucher open the batting with Smith. Stop playing J botha as batting allrounder becos he ain,t like Symmonds/Shane wayne/Vectorri live him as spinner.

  • KeithHall on May 24, 2010, 5:18 GMT

    It's amazing that no one seems to get it up to this point that Keiron Pollard, the overnight millionaire, is totally useless to this West Indies team in any format of the cricket game. He, along with Ramdin, Fletcher and the omitted Wavell Hinds should not be allowed on any international cricket field unless they're helping the groung staff. Bring back Carlton Baugh, he is a much better keeper and batsman than any of them in the region and may the selectors, who I hope will soon be replaced also, get Marlon Samuels ready for duty as soon as his suspension expires. I hope he kept on playing the game during this unfortunate period of his career.

  • risk_love2 on May 24, 2010, 4:52 GMT

    ya i m agree wid most of u i cnt undrstnd y d fletcher is in d team..i thnk ramdin is good bcoz der is no gd replacement for him..nd ya simmons,2nd brove deserave place in team nd s wl s nash i thnk he is really gd batsman nd he is in gd form

  • on May 24, 2010, 4:24 GMT

    what to shane shilenford did,nt he played well with the a team why is no one talking about him.

  • Proteas_Supporter on May 24, 2010, 3:15 GMT

    its no point that sa should stick to the winning combination. they need to try out various combinations including the two spinner theory. i ve already said that smith is struggling to maintain the over rate. look, mclaren may be a good county player but in international cricket he is going to struggle and one or two matches is not enough, we need a player for future. please bring back van der merwe for mclaren. you saw the turn and bounce that miller got in the first odi. i know that boucher is unlikely to return to the side. try out josh richards (u19 captain & w.k) and he is also a good batsman. he will add the freshness to the squad and kudos to sa on starting the tour pretty well and i wish them all success in the coming matches.

  • Chairtruck on May 24, 2010, 1:19 GMT

    The greatest allrounder the game has ever seen will be playing in his 300th ODI today. Congrats King Kallis

  • redneck on May 24, 2010, 0:32 GMT

    has edwards got an injury or has he told the wicb to stick it after no retainer contract???? they could use another top notch quickie by the looks!

  • windies2dbone on May 23, 2010, 22:27 GMT

    it think it's obvious to everyone that fletcher has to go, in my opinion he was brought in to scare ramding into performing but the plan has blown up in thei r faces because fletcher is a talentless batsman who is way out his dept and ramding who is only slightly more talented dose not care. The selesctors are now stuck with the both of then. The real problem is that they had no intention of dropping ramding not matter how much he fails thats why they won't pick a proper replacement. They must also give Darren Bravo an extended run in the team not only has he shown that he has the talent but he has the confidence as well.......Kieron Pollard Must go he to is talentless batsman out of his dept he averages 9 in international cricket and his strike rate is 80. he's haad many chances to bat 15 to 20 overs and he's shown that he cannot bat..on anyother team someone who has a reputation that pollard it seems has now built for himself in the west indies team have won matches for their team

  • Altaf2007 on May 23, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    The same players are selected over and over again for one simple reason. Host a regional tournament with all available WI players and check who makes the most runs. The same players who are on the team now. That is our real problem in the Carribbean. Since Lara in the 80's when last has a player who is not part of recent WI teams made the selectors sit up and say "hey maybe we need to look at this guy. He is making a ton of runs". NO ONE.

  • degiant on May 23, 2010, 20:35 GMT

    Okay, I give in to them playing Fletcher as a wk/batsman but not as just a batter. It is a great disservice to the other opening batters in the region to see Fletcher playing infront of them. The selectors[ my friend Clyde] need to not just take a good look at the team, but themselves also and let players know that we as fans deserve much much better than this.Baugh need to be given a final chance after that mindless performance against PAK. Bravo should be batting lower and players who are selected as batters must bat. In the US when the team fails they along with their coach , manager or board members are all made accountable. We need to do the same in the WI, because their performance affect the whole region and alot of us living abroad.

  • Metman on May 23, 2010, 20:22 GMT

    As I was saying ,you need coaches for children who are now starting to play cricket,not big hard back men,who dont listen to them and carry out their instructions anyway.This one is for chunnie,I agree with you that Fletcher is rubbish,but remember the saying ,One mans meat is another mans poison.Obviously ,Fletcher is meat and drink to the selectors.This one is for Jampro,This is not a Jamaican team you are trying to play as the W.I. team and furthermore,Samuels must prove his worth all over again.Roach is fast and young,and willing to learn,not fast and foolish like Darren Powell and Franklyn Rose.

  • a.sonofharry on May 23, 2010, 20:14 GMT

    What about Adrian Barath??

  • Metman on May 23, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    One man calling for Devon Thomas,who is he?Look,the man to replace Ramdin is on the A team,Chadwick Walton,you better believe it.When the A team tour finishes ,he would be drafted into the W.I.team.Another man calling for Hyatt, .......to do what?to be another Shawn Findlay?This one is for Joebe,Do you really feel,that a team wins matches because of a coach?get real big man!It is a winning team that makes a coach look like he is doing something.Put any coach that was on a losing side like the W.I. with the Austrailians ,and see if the Austrailians will lose with the consistency as the W.I. on the other hand, put a coach that was on a winning team to coach the W.I.,and see if they would win consistently.In other words,no team needs a coach.Coaches dont help a team to win or lose matches.IT IS THE ELEVEN MEN ON THE FIELD FULL STOP.All teams need in my opinion are: A trainer,a physiotherapist and a Doctor with assistants for all three.Coaches are for children who now start to play cricket

  • on May 23, 2010, 19:18 GMT

    why in gods name they play fletcher is beyond question...Y? just why? he has no sense of intervention in the team..he is garbage...he did nothing for the team....where is simmions, bharath? bring the talent out...not keeping it from the tarnished west indian fans...sad to see.

  • saucyj on May 23, 2010, 18:50 GMT

    westindies need to stop being bias with their selections, they need to drop flether, sammy, ramdin, these guys making no type of runs and still on the team, they need to bring in devon thomas, im sure those guys like ramdin and flether couldnt even make australias c team

  • joebe on May 23, 2010, 16:51 GMT

    As i try to follow West Indies cricket i get confussed most of the times, i cant understand why we select the same guys over and over,the guys keep falling and so the cricket boards, yes i said the boards, because the same persons who are failing the many cricket boards accross the caribbean are the very same persons who sits at the West Indies cricket board, so it seems like we have a failing system. i need one of your cricinfo person on the gournd in Antigua for WI vs SA matches to as any person in Antigua who is the best coach in the Leeward Island for the past three years, iam using this to show how our system are failing our cricket and cricketers, the Antigua and Barbuda cricket coach have not yet lost a game since his appointment as the Antigua and Barbuda cricket coach, why then is he not appointed to coach the Leeward Island team in the West Indies Board tournament, the point is we love to push person who fails, look back at Carl Hooper, good looking player but was a failure.

  • Saikat_Chakraborty on May 23, 2010, 16:34 GMT

    We are missing Langvelt and Albi. Mclarren is ok. But,tsotsobe should be replaced!

  • joebe on May 23, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    IAM SAYING NO WAY WEST INDIES MUST BE ALLOWED TO USED THE SAME SIDE FOR THE SECOND ODI ON MONDAY, THEY MUST INCLUDE DEVON THOMAS FROM ANTIGUA IN THE 11, WEST INDIES CANT BE LOOSING OVER AND OVER ROBBING WE THE FANS AND HAVE OTHER PLAYERS AND NOT CHANGING THE TEAM,WHEN WILL THIS FRIEND THING STOP.

  • on May 23, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    Deja vous, Chris Gayle, Lara was rebellious because he didn't get the team he wanted? Where's Holding, foot in mouth? Why is Fletcher still on this squad, why is Barath omitted? Shake up Butts and company, make sure you have the team you want or do the honourable thing!!!

  • jampro on May 23, 2010, 16:08 GMT

    The selectors can form a good team. Omit Ramdin, Fletcher, Pollard and Sarwan. Draft in Bernard (allrounder). Baugh (keeper), Simmons (allrounder), and possible Hyatt. Samuels from his knock yesterday in Florida seems ready to reenter , why not give him a ry? Give Deonarine a fair chance he has ood potential but he should be opening With Gayle, an experienced player. We need to look for a good pace bowler as Roach has pace but needs a compass on his hand. Fast and foolish wont cut it.

  • chunnie on May 23, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    Fletcher is rubbish. They can't seem to get that through their heads. Yet when others with more talent than him fail, they drop them forever.

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  • chunnie on May 23, 2010, 14:55 GMT

    Fletcher is rubbish. They can't seem to get that through their heads. Yet when others with more talent than him fail, they drop them forever.

  • jampro on May 23, 2010, 16:08 GMT

    The selectors can form a good team. Omit Ramdin, Fletcher, Pollard and Sarwan. Draft in Bernard (allrounder). Baugh (keeper), Simmons (allrounder), and possible Hyatt. Samuels from his knock yesterday in Florida seems ready to reenter , why not give him a ry? Give Deonarine a fair chance he has ood potential but he should be opening With Gayle, an experienced player. We need to look for a good pace bowler as Roach has pace but needs a compass on his hand. Fast and foolish wont cut it.

  • on May 23, 2010, 16:13 GMT

    Deja vous, Chris Gayle, Lara was rebellious because he didn't get the team he wanted? Where's Holding, foot in mouth? Why is Fletcher still on this squad, why is Barath omitted? Shake up Butts and company, make sure you have the team you want or do the honourable thing!!!

  • joebe on May 23, 2010, 16:30 GMT

    IAM SAYING NO WAY WEST INDIES MUST BE ALLOWED TO USED THE SAME SIDE FOR THE SECOND ODI ON MONDAY, THEY MUST INCLUDE DEVON THOMAS FROM ANTIGUA IN THE 11, WEST INDIES CANT BE LOOSING OVER AND OVER ROBBING WE THE FANS AND HAVE OTHER PLAYERS AND NOT CHANGING THE TEAM,WHEN WILL THIS FRIEND THING STOP.

  • Saikat_Chakraborty on May 23, 2010, 16:34 GMT

    We are missing Langvelt and Albi. Mclarren is ok. But,tsotsobe should be replaced!

  • joebe on May 23, 2010, 16:51 GMT

    As i try to follow West Indies cricket i get confussed most of the times, i cant understand why we select the same guys over and over,the guys keep falling and so the cricket boards, yes i said the boards, because the same persons who are failing the many cricket boards accross the caribbean are the very same persons who sits at the West Indies cricket board, so it seems like we have a failing system. i need one of your cricinfo person on the gournd in Antigua for WI vs SA matches to as any person in Antigua who is the best coach in the Leeward Island for the past three years, iam using this to show how our system are failing our cricket and cricketers, the Antigua and Barbuda cricket coach have not yet lost a game since his appointment as the Antigua and Barbuda cricket coach, why then is he not appointed to coach the Leeward Island team in the West Indies Board tournament, the point is we love to push person who fails, look back at Carl Hooper, good looking player but was a failure.

  • saucyj on May 23, 2010, 18:50 GMT

    westindies need to stop being bias with their selections, they need to drop flether, sammy, ramdin, these guys making no type of runs and still on the team, they need to bring in devon thomas, im sure those guys like ramdin and flether couldnt even make australias c team

  • on May 23, 2010, 19:18 GMT

    why in gods name they play fletcher is beyond question...Y? just why? he has no sense of intervention in the team..he is garbage...he did nothing for the team....where is simmions, bharath? bring the talent out...not keeping it from the tarnished west indian fans...sad to see.

  • Metman on May 23, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    One man calling for Devon Thomas,who is he?Look,the man to replace Ramdin is on the A team,Chadwick Walton,you better believe it.When the A team tour finishes ,he would be drafted into the W.I.team.Another man calling for Hyatt, .......to do what?to be another Shawn Findlay?This one is for Joebe,Do you really feel,that a team wins matches because of a coach?get real big man!It is a winning team that makes a coach look like he is doing something.Put any coach that was on a losing side like the W.I. with the Austrailians ,and see if the Austrailians will lose with the consistency as the W.I. on the other hand, put a coach that was on a winning team to coach the W.I.,and see if they would win consistently.In other words,no team needs a coach.Coaches dont help a team to win or lose matches.IT IS THE ELEVEN MEN ON THE FIELD FULL STOP.All teams need in my opinion are: A trainer,a physiotherapist and a Doctor with assistants for all three.Coaches are for children who now start to play cricket

  • a.sonofharry on May 23, 2010, 20:14 GMT

    What about Adrian Barath??