West Indies v South Africa, 1st Test, Trinidad, 4th day June 13, 2010

South Africa complete crushing win

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South Africa 352 and 206 for 4 dec (Smith 90, Benn 3-74) beat West Indies 102 and 293 (Gayle 73, Steyn 3-65) by 163 runs
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What was a rout on day three proved harder graft on day four as South Africa's bowlers, for the second time in as many days, worked their way through the West Indies line-up to deliver a comprehensive 163-run victory.

For West Indies fans, the past fifteen years has been a case of dragging positives out the wreckage of defeat and today only Chris Gayle, who resisted stoically for 73, and Dwayne Bravo emerged with much credit. While in charge of England's bowlers recently Ottis Gibson had twice watched South Africa denied by iron-willed resistance, but in his first Test as West Indies coach there were no heroics from the batting team.

Instead it was Morne Morkel and Dale Steyn, the most incisive new-ball pair in the world, who took the plaudits. Fast bowling has suffered under the torrent of lifeless pitches and endless cricket in recent times, but the South African pair gave the few spectators at the Queen's Park Oval memories of old as they efficiently chipped their way through the tired surface and West Indies' top-order.

Graeme Smith rewarded his bowlers with some rest when, on day three, he chose not to enforce the follow on and South Africa began the day by cautiously extending their lead to 456 before finally declaring after an hour this morning. It was an unnecessarily conservative effort first-up from the tourists but they still had more than enough time to complete their task.

Morkel was the man who did the damage early on in the first innings, and he picked up from where he left off immediately second time round, trapping Travis Dowlin in front with his first ball of the innings. It brought Brendan Nash to the crease, batting at least two places too high at No. 3. Nash had forged a Test career on nuggety defiance but in circumstances seemingly made for him, he was instead intent on swiping his way to glory. Inevitably, he was soon found out, pushing loosely outside off stump to give Steyn an early wicket.

At that stage it looked as though West Indies may fold quickly again, but Gayle found a willing partner in Shivnarine Chanderpaul and launched an entertaining counter-attack. Where in the first innings he tried to block and nurdle, this time round he reverted to his preferred see-ball-hit-ball method. There were some memorable shots as he raced to a half-century in 62 balls, none more so than a check-drive straight back over Morkel's head for six. Yet throughout there was the feeling he was West Indies' only hope. Gayle may well possess the broadest shoulders in the Test game but the burden of carrying this team must be taking its toll.

He could only watch on helplessly as Chanderpaul lost concentration and fenced aimlessly at Jacques Kallis to end a 55-run stand and the home team's best period of resistance. Thereafter South Africa steadily chizzled away as the game meandered to its inevitable result.

Paul Harris did his best Ashley Giles impression, offering little more than accuracy as Smith rotated his pace bowlers from the other end. Gayle's continued defiance lured optimistic West Indians into dreaming that he may be able to repeat his marathon hundred at Adelaide last year, but this time conditions were more testing and the task more futile.

Eventually Morkel landed the killer blow, removing him for the second time in the match. Gayle was pinned on the crease as he played around his front pad and, knowing his team's fortunes would depart with him, thought longingly about a referral before dragging himself off.

Narsingh Deonarine, who had also impressed in Australia, looked fraught throughout his stay here. His movements were exaggerated and edgy and after a couple of well-timed drives, he could not withstand a round-the-wicket attack from Steyn. Hanging on the back foot he played around a full ball to become another West Indian batsman trapped lbw.

It ended a useful stand with Bravo who, after surviving a close bat-pad shout, played with the exuberance and flair missing from his first innings. Having stroked his way to 49 he got embroiled, and eventually defeated, in a game of patience with Harris. Sticking with monastic commitment to a line outside leg stump, Harris frustrated Bravo and was eventually rewarded when Bravo chipped tamely to midwicket. Harris has a thoroughly unglamorous role in this side, holding up an end while Steyn and Morkel attack, but he did it well and deserved a reward.

As has so often been the case recently, West Indies were left looking to salvage little but pride from a hopeless situation. Instead Dinesh Ramdin gifted Lonwabo Tsotsobe a first Test wicket. While lacking the gifts of his senior colleagues, Tsotsobe was accurate and cut his fingers over the ball effectively to restrict all the batsmen he came up against and deserved some luck.

It was left to the spinning duo - Sulieman Benn and Shane Shillingford, who had done well earlier in the day to limit South Africa to 51 runs in 18.3 overs - to bring some cheer to the West Indies fans. The old ball had made survival easier and they batted merrily during a 66-run stand in almost 15 overs. Benn was finally undone by Alviro Petersen and Shillingford duly followed. Fittingly it was Steyn who finished the job, bowling Nelon Pascal off an inside edge to give South Africa their eighth successive victory over West Indies this tour.

Sahil Dutta is assistant editor of Cricinfo

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  • cricketfortuneteller on June 16, 2010, 15:14 GMT

    losing in dramatic fashion has become addictive for the west indies.they are more concern with the size of their diamond earings. the selectors should be fired for incompetence.also gayle lack the ability to captain effectively.the westindian players are not competing against their opponents but against themselves because to stay in the team you just have to make more runs than the highest run getter which is always a low total. point in case ramdin scoring 25 or so runs and looked good in comparison to the rest of the team.the west indies players attitudes are indifferent for a team that has the ability to lose so easily .they need to put up a fight moving forward

  • moneague on June 15, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    Selectors..are you reading these comments? Bring in Richards to open, Nash, Samuels, Baugh, Bernard, Taylor, Roach, Miller, Shillingford, Gayle, Bravo. That is our most experienced team right now. Cant blame the captain for the losses, he can only play the team given to him. Our coaches need to work a little harder on the mental attitude of the players. Come on Windies we are still behind you!

  • delastbastion on June 14, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    It totally irks me that nobody in world cricket has any respect for WI cricket these days, yesterday Kallis and Steyn were absolutely fuming that any west indian player could dare to comfortably defend a ball from either of them let alone bang one for four........ I admire their personal beliefs in themselves and their abilities, we then had Harris, tsotbe and piertenson actually their chops in anticipation of cheap wickets to boost their averages n egos....... c'mon do selectors n players see this?...... no belief, no putting up the hand n be a hero. these days WI players get hit n go off, unlike ponting craked on elbow, white chopped, botha chopped n yet soldiered on.... not giving a iota away to a west indian... I say test them for heart n only then can they play..... I havent got time for cowards.... is that why nash never got in line ?

  • moneague on June 14, 2010, 21:54 GMT

    Our problem lies with the selectors. WHy they believe that Trinis must be on the team I dont know. Lets stop the foolishness now, we know Ganga cant even make the third eleven. Rampaul is a second squad bowler. Simmons has been tried , he is not really test material. Bravo is a class act but Daren needs more time on the "A" team to develop. Ramdin has a god father. Bring back Baugh and give him a run like they gave Ramdin. Samuels is a seasoned batsman and saying that he needs to work his way back in is stupidness as there is no more cricket until late this year- or next year. Roach is quick but needs coaching, he is fast and foolish.As an opener Richards might have made it but his age is against him so we should invest in a younger player. That should be Barath. Nash needs to be put down at 5 or 6. We also need an additional opener as i believe Gayle needs to drop down to 2 or 3. Honestly Sarwan is finished, so lets not look for his return.

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 21:32 GMT

    Hey,selectors!In Barbados we dont want too see Rampaul( with an av. close to 100 runs per wicket by then) opening the bowling ya hear!We prefer to see Joel Garner opening the bowling from the Joel Garner end,with Andy Roberts from the other end.We dont want to see the flatfooted Gayle and the backfoot Dowlin either.We prefer Gordon Greenidge and Desmond Haynes,with Viv Richards leading the team at no.3.,and I want Jeff Dujon behind the stumps too! Getting serious now , Chris Gayle lacks imagination,however,he is the best man to lead the team.None of the Bravos can handle real pace and the bouncing ball well.In Bridgetown will be the real test for them.The WI.need to call up Patrick Browne to replace Ramdin now.If the selectors can call up Andre Russel( whose claim to fame was a 100 against Ireland in a festival match 2 years ago) to the A team,then they should call Patrick Browne too.They also need to call up Pedro Collins,otherwise they would be beaten 3-0 in the series.

  • mahjut on June 14, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    }8[ I have lost the reason I started defending Harris (maybe becasue I feel he's zimbabwean really ... jejeje), I know he doesn't spin it much. Anyway, I have started so I'll finish: @dpkirkup who says, "someone should tell Harris that when you are called a spinner you have to be able to spin the ball". Well, Harris is actually described thus: "Slow left-arm orthodox" which I'm sure you'll admit, is a perfect description.

  • mahjut on June 14, 2010, 20:39 GMT

    @METMAN.....(and all the Harris detractors). Harris may not even be mediocre in your opinion but the fact is he as good as most spin bowlers out there: he has a better ave, better strike rate and an accumulative average that is faster moving downward than Benn (and in fact has only moved downward - Benn's upward). Swann (no# whatever in the world)'s ave only goes below 30 against BD and WI - vs SA (not rated highly for their playing of spin - by me anyway) it is a creditable 31 but nothing special. Daniel Vettori has a better average but a slightly worse SR. Even Shakib(who, like vettori and swann, seems a decent spinner)'s record is not much better. H Singh is the only one who's figures hold up but even then WI, NZ and Zim do help a little and and he bowls a LOT better at home. Harris may be a very poor spin bowler but, like his peers, he bleeds red.

  • delastbastion on June 14, 2010, 17:37 GMT

    windies need to get the bsics right... select numbers 1-6 basmen a wicket keeper, 2 spinners & 2 fast bowlers or 1 spinner & 3 fast bowlers and from hence forth make adjustments to team on a like for like basis, replace a number 2 batsman with a no 2 bastman and a no 4 batsman witha no 4 batsman and so forth. dont award ppl on a seasonal basis dependent on who did well, that' why we ended up with Dowling batting 2 and Nash 3... there is no clarity in that if u lose lose with a proper structure. It cant be that Bravo is batting 5, which no 5 in WI history does he compare with? and i'm not talking glory days, my point is that even in this weakened state of wi cricket Bravo is not a territorial no 5.. how can he then be an international no 5? . get the team structure right and every west indian who plays cricket will know what positionin the west indies team he's aspiring to from 1 - 11 and that ppl will not be awarded positions for which they have no history.

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    I agree totally with CHESTNUTGREY!Imagine Rampaul going into the match with a bowling av. of 72 and saying that he was looking forward to bowling,and taking wickets in front of his home crowd?MY GOD!that is WI cricket in the year 2010! Look,that man aint get a fella out,and to make matters worst,Chris Gayle said that he might play the same team in St.Kitts.,LORD HAVE MERCY,SEND DOWN PERCY!this mans av.has now skyrocketed to a whopping 91.75

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 16:39 GMT

    I said it already,and I will say it again!GANGA IN 2010 IS RUBBISH!Furthermore,the only Trinidadians deserving of a test play in 2010 is Dwayne Bravo,and Darren Bravo.Barath apart from his debut 100,has shown little in his other 3 innings,so I would have to say he is a promising WI test player.The other TT players,some of them, namely Pollard and Simmons,are good for the T20,and ODIs,the others , are good regional players------not Test players.The SA bowler Harris is not a better bowler than Botha,and I was surprised that he was prefered ahead of him.This was not the first time that I saw him in action,and I said then he was not a mediocre bowler,he was a very poor spin bowler.He should be glad that former players like Greenidge,Haynes,Richards and Lloyd are not playing cricket anymore,because many a ball would have been lost to the back of the stands.

  • cricketfortuneteller on June 16, 2010, 15:14 GMT

    losing in dramatic fashion has become addictive for the west indies.they are more concern with the size of their diamond earings. the selectors should be fired for incompetence.also gayle lack the ability to captain effectively.the westindian players are not competing against their opponents but against themselves because to stay in the team you just have to make more runs than the highest run getter which is always a low total. point in case ramdin scoring 25 or so runs and looked good in comparison to the rest of the team.the west indies players attitudes are indifferent for a team that has the ability to lose so easily .they need to put up a fight moving forward

  • moneague on June 15, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    Selectors..are you reading these comments? Bring in Richards to open, Nash, Samuels, Baugh, Bernard, Taylor, Roach, Miller, Shillingford, Gayle, Bravo. That is our most experienced team right now. Cant blame the captain for the losses, he can only play the team given to him. Our coaches need to work a little harder on the mental attitude of the players. Come on Windies we are still behind you!

  • delastbastion on June 14, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    It totally irks me that nobody in world cricket has any respect for WI cricket these days, yesterday Kallis and Steyn were absolutely fuming that any west indian player could dare to comfortably defend a ball from either of them let alone bang one for four........ I admire their personal beliefs in themselves and their abilities, we then had Harris, tsotbe and piertenson actually their chops in anticipation of cheap wickets to boost their averages n egos....... c'mon do selectors n players see this?...... no belief, no putting up the hand n be a hero. these days WI players get hit n go off, unlike ponting craked on elbow, white chopped, botha chopped n yet soldiered on.... not giving a iota away to a west indian... I say test them for heart n only then can they play..... I havent got time for cowards.... is that why nash never got in line ?

  • moneague on June 14, 2010, 21:54 GMT

    Our problem lies with the selectors. WHy they believe that Trinis must be on the team I dont know. Lets stop the foolishness now, we know Ganga cant even make the third eleven. Rampaul is a second squad bowler. Simmons has been tried , he is not really test material. Bravo is a class act but Daren needs more time on the "A" team to develop. Ramdin has a god father. Bring back Baugh and give him a run like they gave Ramdin. Samuels is a seasoned batsman and saying that he needs to work his way back in is stupidness as there is no more cricket until late this year- or next year. Roach is quick but needs coaching, he is fast and foolish.As an opener Richards might have made it but his age is against him so we should invest in a younger player. That should be Barath. Nash needs to be put down at 5 or 6. We also need an additional opener as i believe Gayle needs to drop down to 2 or 3. Honestly Sarwan is finished, so lets not look for his return.

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 21:32 GMT

    Hey,selectors!In Barbados we dont want too see Rampaul( with an av. close to 100 runs per wicket by then) opening the bowling ya hear!We prefer to see Joel Garner opening the bowling from the Joel Garner end,with Andy Roberts from the other end.We dont want to see the flatfooted Gayle and the backfoot Dowlin either.We prefer Gordon Greenidge and Desmond Haynes,with Viv Richards leading the team at no.3.,and I want Jeff Dujon behind the stumps too! Getting serious now , Chris Gayle lacks imagination,however,he is the best man to lead the team.None of the Bravos can handle real pace and the bouncing ball well.In Bridgetown will be the real test for them.The WI.need to call up Patrick Browne to replace Ramdin now.If the selectors can call up Andre Russel( whose claim to fame was a 100 against Ireland in a festival match 2 years ago) to the A team,then they should call Patrick Browne too.They also need to call up Pedro Collins,otherwise they would be beaten 3-0 in the series.

  • mahjut on June 14, 2010, 20:47 GMT

    }8[ I have lost the reason I started defending Harris (maybe becasue I feel he's zimbabwean really ... jejeje), I know he doesn't spin it much. Anyway, I have started so I'll finish: @dpkirkup who says, "someone should tell Harris that when you are called a spinner you have to be able to spin the ball". Well, Harris is actually described thus: "Slow left-arm orthodox" which I'm sure you'll admit, is a perfect description.

  • mahjut on June 14, 2010, 20:39 GMT

    @METMAN.....(and all the Harris detractors). Harris may not even be mediocre in your opinion but the fact is he as good as most spin bowlers out there: he has a better ave, better strike rate and an accumulative average that is faster moving downward than Benn (and in fact has only moved downward - Benn's upward). Swann (no# whatever in the world)'s ave only goes below 30 against BD and WI - vs SA (not rated highly for their playing of spin - by me anyway) it is a creditable 31 but nothing special. Daniel Vettori has a better average but a slightly worse SR. Even Shakib(who, like vettori and swann, seems a decent spinner)'s record is not much better. H Singh is the only one who's figures hold up but even then WI, NZ and Zim do help a little and and he bowls a LOT better at home. Harris may be a very poor spin bowler but, like his peers, he bleeds red.

  • delastbastion on June 14, 2010, 17:37 GMT

    windies need to get the bsics right... select numbers 1-6 basmen a wicket keeper, 2 spinners & 2 fast bowlers or 1 spinner & 3 fast bowlers and from hence forth make adjustments to team on a like for like basis, replace a number 2 batsman with a no 2 bastman and a no 4 batsman witha no 4 batsman and so forth. dont award ppl on a seasonal basis dependent on who did well, that' why we ended up with Dowling batting 2 and Nash 3... there is no clarity in that if u lose lose with a proper structure. It cant be that Bravo is batting 5, which no 5 in WI history does he compare with? and i'm not talking glory days, my point is that even in this weakened state of wi cricket Bravo is not a territorial no 5.. how can he then be an international no 5? . get the team structure right and every west indian who plays cricket will know what positionin the west indies team he's aspiring to from 1 - 11 and that ppl will not be awarded positions for which they have no history.

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 17:16 GMT

    I agree totally with CHESTNUTGREY!Imagine Rampaul going into the match with a bowling av. of 72 and saying that he was looking forward to bowling,and taking wickets in front of his home crowd?MY GOD!that is WI cricket in the year 2010! Look,that man aint get a fella out,and to make matters worst,Chris Gayle said that he might play the same team in St.Kitts.,LORD HAVE MERCY,SEND DOWN PERCY!this mans av.has now skyrocketed to a whopping 91.75

  • Metman on June 14, 2010, 16:39 GMT

    I said it already,and I will say it again!GANGA IN 2010 IS RUBBISH!Furthermore,the only Trinidadians deserving of a test play in 2010 is Dwayne Bravo,and Darren Bravo.Barath apart from his debut 100,has shown little in his other 3 innings,so I would have to say he is a promising WI test player.The other TT players,some of them, namely Pollard and Simmons,are good for the T20,and ODIs,the others , are good regional players------not Test players.The SA bowler Harris is not a better bowler than Botha,and I was surprised that he was prefered ahead of him.This was not the first time that I saw him in action,and I said then he was not a mediocre bowler,he was a very poor spin bowler.He should be glad that former players like Greenidge,Haynes,Richards and Lloyd are not playing cricket anymore,because many a ball would have been lost to the back of the stands.

  • bumsonseats on June 14, 2010, 16:28 GMT

    someone should tell Harris that when you are called a spinner you have to be able to spin the ball. i watched the last 2 sessions yesterday and i only saw him turn one ball the amount of rough it should have been a spinner heaven. i suppose hes just a hold an end up while the fast ballers rest but if the WIs spinners can take 13 of the SA wickets to fall, hes not up to muck. dpk

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 14, 2010, 16:21 GMT

    Bravo in for Dowlin Samuels in for Deonarine Tonge in for Rampaul Bravo is shorter than Richards i think so the shortball should be less of a threat. Tonge may not offer much more pace but @ least he should be more accurate. Samuels should also handle pace better than Deonarine. hopefully Taylor & Roach are fit b4 we get 2 Kensington Oval .

  • on June 14, 2010, 16:03 GMT

    where do the Windies go from here? Haven't they reached rock bottom? Ian Bishop can rant all he wants (he's right in every aspect) but what can the fans and the Caribbean people expect to see from this team! At this rate, it's going to be embarrassing to call yourself their 'fan'. If you get rid of half the team, who will you put in? Actually, it's going to make no difference in dropping players; the new ones will be fresh to the RSA attack and it'll be back to square one. i for one see no way out.

  • on June 14, 2010, 15:41 GMT

    Something is definitely wrong,Nash should bat at #4 or 5,I cant see why Sammy isn't in the team after being one of the top performer in the limited overs also Dale Richards look so good why was he left out?Benn had a really good game.

  • klempie on June 14, 2010, 15:08 GMT

    Steyntjie needs to pick up the pace if he's going to crack the fastest 300. Come on boy!!

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 14, 2010, 15:03 GMT

    West Indies should arrange for their Test match series to coincide with their domestic season. It seeems like their series are slotted in around whatever is happening elsewhere in the world, like IPL. But other boards don't put themselves last so why should they. They need to be playing more Tests too. The whole impression given is that now Tests are an afterthought, and the inertia and sloppiness of the WI team was just too easy for Steyn and Morkel to brush aside with barely an obstacle in the way. Laid back seems to have translated into laying down flat. Where is the energy? Only in the stands with the diehard fans I would suggest. They deserve better.

  • Gopu61 on June 14, 2010, 14:52 GMT

    Really sad to see tyhe decline of Windies after their high level of games during 70s-90s.Hope to see them back in good position with the rise of speedsters like Roach,Edwards etc.

  • windiescricetfan on June 14, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    Yes lets drop Ramdin and Rampaul and Bravo hasnt performed either. Then maybe we can pick Baugh Sammy and Darren Powell and have a true west indies team without any Trinidadians. They only screw things up anyway. I mean its not like Ganga Pollard Bravo and co have shown what they can do at an international tournament against top class players when they are properly prepared. Lets just keep Gayle and his band of "lets go out there and relax" cricketers. They are clearly doing so well

  • mahjut on June 14, 2010, 12:57 GMT

    duncanmoo: Harris is clearly not in there to take wickets; this was a surface which favored Benn and Shillingford Neiljturner@duncanmoo: You're not being unfair to Harris; he's mediocre at best. @neiljturner (and duncanmoo), Harris has done his job well, obviously not a murali or warne, he is a decent spinner (not mediocre - maybe not much more than...but more than). It could be a reflection of how SA players play spin rather than a reflection of the merits of Benn and Shillingford as opposed to Harris. Harris has never done a great job against India (Murali and Warne never fared that well either btw) but has performed as well as most of these other less god-like spinners. pretty good series against Aus (away and home, esp) but very ordinary v ENG. In any case, if the cricinfo comentary was right, then there was only really turn in SAs first innings and their second innings, well, they were resting their bowlers... he ain't great but he does a job, pretty well in most cases

  • ssridhar on June 14, 2010, 12:57 GMT

    I desperately want a WI fightback in the forthcoming Tests, though not a victory. Win is not possible with the manner they batted in the I Test. Give respect to the basics of Batting: PLAY STRAIGHT; play maidens, if unable to score; Remember Geoff Boycott's dictum:"Don't get out this ball". play by ball, bowler by bowler by simply batting over after over; wait for the loose deliveries to score; These lines are the outburst of my observation of the WI batting in the I Test; you always have all the shots to play; the world knows about the WI batsmen. But you cannot win by a few magnificient strokes if you are vulnerable the next ball; Simply fight by batting out; make the opposition stay in the middle the maximum hours possible. You, the Greats of WI Cricket, pl think over and pass on your experience, even if they are given deaf ears, for the sake of an erstwhile champion team !

  • Professor_king44 on June 14, 2010, 12:42 GMT

    @ Bloomberg. Marlon Samuels is one of the best batsmen in the Caribbean currently. Since around the time of Sarwan debut, Samuels has been identified as a better batsman than Sarwan. However, his oppurtunities were spread out here and there, and he never had the comfort of permanency like others who kept failing. Yes he has a problem with his bull head attitude... and yes his concentration is flawed. But then, so do the other greats.... No excuses though, he need to change his attitude, concentrate more and use his greatness for what it is. They are afraid to play him because he is not their ideal King of the game. Just like how they tried to stiffle Brian Lara. WI worst enemy is itself!!!

  • on June 14, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    I endorse changing the selectors .There seem to be a quota system operating.During the Champions Trophy in India t Trinidad and Tobago exposed Top West Indian Talent.Players like Simmonds,Perkins,Daren Ganga and Daren Bravo should have been on the Twenty 20 and One Day Team with Ganga captain of both teams. Smith should be recalled immediately from his tour to replace the opening void created.

  • on June 14, 2010, 12:17 GMT

    I endorse changing the selectors .There seem to be a quota system operating.During the Champions Trophy in India t Trinidad and Tobago exposed Top West Indian Talent.Players like Simmonds,Perkins,Daren Ganga and Daren Bravo should have been on the Twenty 20 and One Day Team with Ganga captain of both teams. Smith should be recalled immediately from his tour to replace the opening void created.

  • djdrastic on June 14, 2010, 11:57 GMT

    @Duncanmoo. You are not entirely unfair . Benn is a much better bowler than Harry.

    The only department where WI have us(South Africa) licked is the spin department.

  • Professor_king44 on June 14, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    Next Test: Friday 18. WI batting order: Gayle, Richards, Darren Bravo, Chanderpaul, Nash, Bravo, Baugh, Sammy, Pascal, Benn, Roach. If Sarwan is fit, then we could have him at no.3 position. If Taylor is fit, then he could replace Sammy. Isn't there a young keeper on one of those regional teams we can use? If I have the power and the Money, I would have opened a rehabilitation camp to get Chanderpaul, Samuels, Ganga and Taylor up to par for the third test. But then, that is wishful thinking!

  • neiljturner on June 14, 2010, 11:44 GMT

    @duncanmoo: You're not being unfair to Harris; he's mediocre at best. Unfortunately for South Africa, he really is the best spinner the country has to offer. There's something about the youth system in South Africa that causes it to turn out loads of promising fast bowlers but very few decent spinners. Sadly, it's a self-reinforcing cycle: The current crop of players grew up idolising Alan Donald; there was no Murali or Warne for them to look up to, so they learned to bowl fast. Kids in school right now idolise Steyn, not Harris.

  • on June 14, 2010, 11:38 GMT

    One other problem i have is that defeat after defeat we ask for the return of recycled failures? Ganga? after 49 tests he average 24 . He is not a test batsman. SamueL? not a test batsman. I would have started with Dale Richards..he looks like a test batsman and never looks uncomfortable at the wicket and he plays his shots. Dowlin has held on to his opportunities but he's not a test play and his true light will show the more he plays. This is his last series as the WI only plays 3 tests this year and no more for over or close to a year i think. This series will be the end for a few players. Come 2011 some players will have to go.

  • SettingSun on June 14, 2010, 11:10 GMT

    @lucyferr - marvellous trolling there. To me, the West Indies are just picking the wrong players, full stop. Two spinners was the right idea but Rampaul is never going to be a test class bowler. What does Andrew Richardson need to do to be chosen? Or David Bernard? The selectors are just way off.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 14, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    So many basic errors led to a unsurprising battering by the Saffers. Dowlin has to go, he showed fight in Australia, but looked intimidated against Steyn and Morkel. Nash is not a number 3 and should only be batting at six. Deonarine got starts in both innings, but couldn't maintain it for long periods. Ravi Rampaul bowls too many four-balls and is not consistantly accurate enough for a man of his friendly pace. Pascal is raw, but will improve with experience. The only positive for the Windies throughout, was the efforts by Benn and Shillingford, plus their stubborn resistance with the bat can teach the recognised batsmen how it's done. Changes have to be made for the 2nd test, with Darren Bravo and Dale Richards added to the batting order. Hopefully Roach and Taylor will be fit again, but if not then bring another bowler into the squad to replace Rampaul. Holder, Tonge or McClean couldn't do any worse.

  • on June 14, 2010, 9:24 GMT

    WI should stop playing cricket... should concentrate anything other than cricket

  • Kula_Bowls_Inswing on June 14, 2010, 9:20 GMT

    WI are unlucky not to have Edwards, Taylor and Roach (I presume Roach is out due to the injury he picked up during the ODIs). Those 3 have the pace, if not the accurracy, to match Steyn and Morkel. I think those three bowlers are key to WI becoming a test force again. All 3 are capable fo 90mph+, and although it's definitely not all about pace, few other test teams have 3 bowlers capable of this. Australia showed that it can work as a tactic in the T20 and so did the '80s WI team. Edwards, Taylor and Roach have all had their moments in tests and if they can get injury-free and play tests regularly, they will become a very good attack, especially as Benn and Bravo provide variation. Nash is too high in the order. He's had success at 5 or 6, adding grit to the lower middle-order and I admire the way he's made the most of his ability, but he's not talented enough to bat at 3, especially against the likes of Steyna and Morkel.

  • on June 14, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    It's sad to see the WI in such a state of disarray! It seems that the batsmen were there to hit-and-hope and the fielders' body language was that of disinterest. It does seem that they aren't interested in test cricket anymore. The legends of West Indies cricket must be pulling their hair out! We need a strong WI side to take on the best. That will be entertainment!

  • duncanmoo on June 14, 2010, 8:54 GMT

    Benn: 8 wickets at econ of 2.7 Harris: 2 wickets at econ of 3.6 If Harris is meant to hold up one end and frustrate the batsmen he is giving away too many runs. Harris is clearly not in there to take wickets; this was a surface which favored Benn and Shillingford. SA was short on bowling options (Duminy?), or find someone who can spin and take wickets? Or am I being unfair to Harris?

  • Rabies on June 14, 2010, 8:51 GMT

    Please don't think me patronising- but what a bad time to be playing a team like the Saffers, they simply have too much in hand for the likes of the WI right now, and this series will probably do WI cricket more harm than good. There are probably at least 3 other pace men not in the side right now who are better than Tsosobe (Parnell, McClean etc) so SA are not even at full strength right now- I am afraid I cannot see any way back in this series for the WI- barring rain a whitewash is on the cards, which is a real pity for those of us who love the WI, however, this SA side has yet to hit it's straps and fully loaded will simply humiliate the WI- which is a real shame...

  • on June 14, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    oh is it steyn in both innings....n also boucher in 1st innings n kallis in 2nd innings.well done RCB guys!

  • Shafaet on June 14, 2010, 8:31 GMT

    Steyn is insane. How the hell this guy bowls so well? Had he born 1 decade ago, many a batsmen would have had lesser average.

  • satanswish on June 14, 2010, 8:10 GMT

    ICC should seriously consider withdrawing Test status of weaker West Indies team.

  • everfaithful77 on June 14, 2010, 7:13 GMT

    The current group of SELECTORS are choking West Indies cricket by their ridiculous selection moves. How do you explain Ravi Rampaul opening the bowling and Dowlin the batting ? Rampaul can hardly bowl beyond 84 or 85 mph - is he going to trouble the SA batsmen who practice with bowlers at 90 to 95 mph. Dowlin is too short and struggles to handle the new ball bounce. Richards was better than Gayle in the ODI's with 2 very convincing half century inns. So why not carry him into the tests ? Is this rocket science ? Jason Holder was by far the best WI fast bowler in the Under-19 World Cup and almost single handedly destroyed England to make the semis. What else does he have to do to get the attention of the selectors ? Why play with 3 grafters in Nash, Deonarine and Chandy instead of selecting a stroke maker like Darren Bravo who just had a fantastic tour with the A-Team ? They appear to be recycling failures and patching a team together instead of looking for a winning combination.

  • AashishK on June 14, 2010, 7:09 GMT

    i think West indies should include brute force of kerion pollard in test team . they have tried almost every option now , why not give pollard a try at no 4 , i bet he will be useful in tests too as like sehwag

  • AMowlana on June 14, 2010, 6:57 GMT

    Its not fair by Zimb. Let W. Indies also be same or below in the ranking/ treatment given. . All our constructive comments related to Windies seem to fall in deaf ears. Its a waste of time. If windies have been on course with the right development or turn around plans, it should have happened by now. Its more than a decade and they continue face crushing losses and hurt the pride of their fans. Flash in the pan performance wont do. Consistency in winning is the name of the game. Only positive, they are consistent in shamefully losing. Clearly the players' and administrators' hearts and minds are more in their pocket than in the game. You could see the smiling faces in windies dressing room when the last wicket fell.The players body language show they play only for money. Windies Cricket has reached the Dooms Day, no hope at all . Dont waste your money and time in their cricket. Sorry my dear west indian fans and friends.

  • happyhacker on June 14, 2010, 6:52 GMT

    @ lucyferr: Do you honestly believe that T20 is "real cricket"?? Real cricket is Test cricket. In T20 you don't have to be the best player to do well. T20 is "appealing to the masses" and yes for bit of slogging T20 is the answer. However when it comes down to how you are judged as a cricketer then test cricket is the answer. Over 5 days you have varying pitch, weather and ball conditions while in T20 it's a nice hard ball to slog for hour or so! Nothing in comparison to the real deal which is Test cricket.

  • djdrastic on June 14, 2010, 6:31 GMT

    LOL @ lucyferr.

    Real cricket is T20's . That made my day. No wonder WI cricket is so messed up.

  • ssridhar on June 14, 2010, 6:26 GMT

    WI players should watch many a innings played by Rohan Kanhai, Larry Gomes, Sunil Gavaskar, Mike Hussey, Sachin, Jack Kallis. When they come to the crease, they assess the situation like the number of wkts gone, pitch etc. and adopt the basic technique of not playing across a straight ball. They steady the team first and go for shots. The present WI players straightaway go for the shots with scan consideration of the strength of the bowler, the team position etc. For example, Gayle in both the innings played across and got dismissed. If this kind of mistakes are repeated it implies that the batting technique is flawed.

  • sanin on June 14, 2010, 5:37 GMT

    @krajeev..........I would have 2 disagree with u........ZIM is well behind WI........Actually ZIM is well behind Bangladesh.

  • on June 14, 2010, 5:14 GMT

    As a Kiwi born in Zimbabwe and having spent a long time in the West Indies, my heart breaks to see the state of Cricket there right now. The passion for the game is so high at every level, but for the very top. Maybe when the top echelon stop treating Cricket as a job and learn to love playing it again, we will see the glory days of old.

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on June 14, 2010, 5:13 GMT

    If there is 1 thing I notice about W.I. supporters here is that they r not afraid to call a spade a spade and they r very willing to scold their team. I think, however, they should be a bit more understanding n realise that the big prob with W.I. is that they have NO BENCH STRENGTH. A full W.I. squad beat Eng 1-0 n made the semis of the 2nd t-20 world cup n also came close to beating Ind in an ODI series in the W.I. But injuries r crippling them n because they had no academy, no-1 could replace them. They've just discovered Roach n Barath-diamonds in the rough n now they r injured. No Edwards, no Taylor, no Sarwan as well. Hopefully with their academy in place things can get better. @Jason Sui... research has showed Ravi Rampaul, Pollard n Rhamdin r all from trinidad and they r all too poor for test cricket. once bowlers r fit, Rampaul is gone, Pollard according to Holding is not a cricketer n I hope to see W.I. mold a better keeper-bat than Rhamdin. Pulling from 1 Isle wont help W.I.

  • on June 14, 2010, 5:05 GMT

    Proteas are going to reach no. 1 now..wait n watch !!!

  • djdrastic on June 14, 2010, 5:04 GMT

    Steyn naysayers ? Any thoughts ?

  • lucyferr on June 14, 2010, 5:02 GMT

    The West Indies team should stop mucking around with Tests - Tests are only useful in that they provide batting practice for real cricket - T20s. I totally agree with Chris Gayle - Tests are boring. Let the Windies stick to playing T20Is. For every Test that's cancelled on their schedule, that's another 3-5 T20Is they can fill in. I mean, seriously, how are you supposed to interest young passionate West Indian kids to play cricket if the highest form of the game is some dumb slow format that takes five days! Now, a game that's comparable in length to a football match and encourages Caribbean passion to come to the fore - now we're talking! Purist Luddite fans and cricket writers need to exercise some responsibility and stop spreading the outdated canard that Test cricket is the pinnacle of the game. The problem with the death of Test cricket is that it's not happening fast enough. PS: Nothing needs to be said about ODIS -they're already dead unless they're converted to two T20 innings.

  • ssridhar on June 14, 2010, 4:43 GMT

    Though a long time fan of WI, I wish the ICC to relegate the present WI as a non-test playing team, let it fight from the ground and rise to top. The present team does not have test class players w.r.t. all departments. Gayle, Chanderpaul, Jerome Taylor are chancy players. They do not deliver when needed most. Select players below 25, let them play, fail, learn and they would certainly succeed.

  • emmwill on June 14, 2010, 4:37 GMT

    @ Jason Sui Such insularity in the comment about selecting more Trinidadians. That is utter rubbish. Jamaica has won the regional four-day competition for the last two or three years. Are they clamoring for more Jamaicans to be selected. The reality is that West Indies cricket is weak at the moment and it is not being helped by a spate of injuries to some key players. I believe that we will continue to be beaten like this for a few more years or so. We will rise again, but out of the ashes of years of defeat and humiliation.

  • timeless on June 14, 2010, 4:05 GMT

    well its a tough pitch to bat on. they did well in the second innings but only if they could have had that resistance in the first innings, things would b far different and we could have seen a fifth day fight. there pacers selection was poor, they did not even took a wicked,and yes richards deserve a chance to open instead of dowlin. hopefully we can bounce back in the second test.

  • Chestnutgrey on June 14, 2010, 3:44 GMT

    Dear West Indies, you are not going to win anything with a bowling attack led by Rampaul and with Ramdin keeping wickets. Thank you.

  • Mr.Biff on June 14, 2010, 3:43 GMT

    Nw da world knows hw brutal STEYN & M.MORKEL ARE!!!! They did da same thing 4 da "bigmouths in cricket-- india" in dis year,nw they destroyed da carribean boyzz!!

  • exuma on June 14, 2010, 3:21 GMT

    Why is Dowling opening for the WI, he a good first class player but, not test material. He has never faced / made runs against bowlers of Styne/Morkle caliber. what happned to grooming a young team?, he is almost overthe hill. guess he is being rewarded for stickin with the WI administration and playing against Bangalades. Where is Ganga, chattergoon, Richards, Simmonds, Bharat- these are the players to be groomed for the future. When Chanderpaul and Gayle retire, that's it for WI cricket, thay are the only two caliber batsmen in the team, Sarwan is always injured, so dosen't contributing consistently. May be he is saving himself to play for the US team, there is no age restriction there, just have to have big name and cant make another country team and you are included. WI need to be demoted to 2nd division along with Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, however bangladesh did show more fight against England, not sure WI want to play them now, they will actually put up some fight.

  • Proteas_Supporter on June 14, 2010, 3:19 GMT

    well done SA and really sorry for the WI. i thought the declaration by SA was arrogant and it might backfire but once again the bowlers did a decent job. congrats for steyn on reaching the landmark and hope to see the best of you in the future as well. morkel was equally good. i think SA have the perfect team combination. parnell should comeback for the second test in place of tsotsobe. smith played well but unfortunate on missing an hundred. duminy has to sit out for at least a couple of years or if any player gets injured he can replace. prince looks relieved in the middle order. all the best for the rest of the series.

  • on June 14, 2010, 2:43 GMT

    The WestIndies team is very poor and only a fool would think otherwise. I'm westindian and things are too hard financially here for anyone to spend hard earn dollars to go see millionaire cricketers get beaten game after game after game. It not fair to us at all. They have no pride and if by any chance they do then they must simply be no good.

  • Jim1207 on June 14, 2010, 2:43 GMT

    Why Daren Ganga is not at all selected into team? Deonarine or Dowlin or Ramdin do not even come near to Ganga's quality. If WI selectors are doing this kind of poor job, west indies cricket is never going to achieve anything big again. At least they can give chances to such talents and try out different options to renew their pride, I do not understand their team selection, even Kieron Pollard can do a bit of Sehwag and renew WI cricket. try something guys, if you dont try, every team will fry you like this.

  • storeboy on June 14, 2010, 1:26 GMT

    This game, another humiliating defeat, confirms the fact that the West Indies are a bad team with inferior players. Most of the team could not play for any test team save Bangladesh and maybe, Zimbabwe. Our "fast" bowlers cannot keep a descent line or length. That is more than discipline; it is ability. Kemar Roach is fast but how many wickets has he taken? Jerome Taylor is fast but always injured. Steyn and Morkel are not only fast, but consistently pitch the ball in a specific location. Nash, Deonarine and Dowlin are not test class batsmen. It is time for the selectors to discard most of the current crop of players and start focusing on the best of the Under-23 players...and the only way WI cricket will improve is to get rid of the current WICB, which currently constitutes of ancient thinking idiots, who do not have a clue of how 21st professional sports ought to be administered.

  • on June 14, 2010, 1:18 GMT

    Once again the fragility of the West Indies team has been revealed by their far superior opponents.The W.I.team was clinically outperformed in all areas and the same term can be applied to the performance of the South African team,vastly superior in all areas of the game. I am a West Indian and I have always held that one of the main reasons for the dismal spate of performances over the last few years has been the unwillingness of the W.I.board to pick more Trinidadians on the team.It seems that for whatever reason(s),the selectors have not done this and yet performances of the Trinidad team at all levels of the game reflects continuing success. Another main reason continues to be the attitude of us West Indians to anything ie.we seem to think that all aspects of life should be lived at a leisurely pace and this extends to the lack of discipline in their pre game preparation, mentally,physically and psychologically. Come on guys,give us reasons to resume believing in the team.

  • Rally_round_Windies on June 14, 2010, 1:14 GMT

    Sorry Windies. I will continue to support them and I have a feeling that they will dominate in the second test. Go windies, time to make an impression and give the Caribbean ppl something to be proud of. Come on guys lets give them support. Windies will shine

  • Professor_king44 on June 14, 2010, 0:26 GMT

    I promised not to criticise. However there are a few things we need to consider. 1. Who came up with the notion that Nash is a no.3 batsman? Surely that is a position for Deonarine, until Sarwan or Samuels return. 2. The Ramdin concept is long into the dust. Time for us to move on to a post Ramdin era. 3. Dowlin???? What happened to Richards? Ok. I shut my mouth, because who read these comments anyway? Not WI selectors!!!

  • Saikat_Chakraborty on June 13, 2010, 23:28 GMT

    Cngrtz Styne,morkel. But, 3rd pacer isn't impressive. Change it.

  • krajeev on June 13, 2010, 22:51 GMT

    I guess the Zimbabwean team is far better than the WI team now. I am sure nobody will disagree with me. Chris Gayle plays only for money. He is not interested in Test cricket, wonder if he is interested in playing for his country even.

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  • krajeev on June 13, 2010, 22:51 GMT

    I guess the Zimbabwean team is far better than the WI team now. I am sure nobody will disagree with me. Chris Gayle plays only for money. He is not interested in Test cricket, wonder if he is interested in playing for his country even.

  • Saikat_Chakraborty on June 13, 2010, 23:28 GMT

    Cngrtz Styne,morkel. But, 3rd pacer isn't impressive. Change it.

  • Professor_king44 on June 14, 2010, 0:26 GMT

    I promised not to criticise. However there are a few things we need to consider. 1. Who came up with the notion that Nash is a no.3 batsman? Surely that is a position for Deonarine, until Sarwan or Samuels return. 2. The Ramdin concept is long into the dust. Time for us to move on to a post Ramdin era. 3. Dowlin???? What happened to Richards? Ok. I shut my mouth, because who read these comments anyway? Not WI selectors!!!

  • Rally_round_Windies on June 14, 2010, 1:14 GMT

    Sorry Windies. I will continue to support them and I have a feeling that they will dominate in the second test. Go windies, time to make an impression and give the Caribbean ppl something to be proud of. Come on guys lets give them support. Windies will shine

  • on June 14, 2010, 1:18 GMT

    Once again the fragility of the West Indies team has been revealed by their far superior opponents.The W.I.team was clinically outperformed in all areas and the same term can be applied to the performance of the South African team,vastly superior in all areas of the game. I am a West Indian and I have always held that one of the main reasons for the dismal spate of performances over the last few years has been the unwillingness of the W.I.board to pick more Trinidadians on the team.It seems that for whatever reason(s),the selectors have not done this and yet performances of the Trinidad team at all levels of the game reflects continuing success. Another main reason continues to be the attitude of us West Indians to anything ie.we seem to think that all aspects of life should be lived at a leisurely pace and this extends to the lack of discipline in their pre game preparation, mentally,physically and psychologically. Come on guys,give us reasons to resume believing in the team.

  • storeboy on June 14, 2010, 1:26 GMT

    This game, another humiliating defeat, confirms the fact that the West Indies are a bad team with inferior players. Most of the team could not play for any test team save Bangladesh and maybe, Zimbabwe. Our "fast" bowlers cannot keep a descent line or length. That is more than discipline; it is ability. Kemar Roach is fast but how many wickets has he taken? Jerome Taylor is fast but always injured. Steyn and Morkel are not only fast, but consistently pitch the ball in a specific location. Nash, Deonarine and Dowlin are not test class batsmen. It is time for the selectors to discard most of the current crop of players and start focusing on the best of the Under-23 players...and the only way WI cricket will improve is to get rid of the current WICB, which currently constitutes of ancient thinking idiots, who do not have a clue of how 21st professional sports ought to be administered.

  • Jim1207 on June 14, 2010, 2:43 GMT

    Why Daren Ganga is not at all selected into team? Deonarine or Dowlin or Ramdin do not even come near to Ganga's quality. If WI selectors are doing this kind of poor job, west indies cricket is never going to achieve anything big again. At least they can give chances to such talents and try out different options to renew their pride, I do not understand their team selection, even Kieron Pollard can do a bit of Sehwag and renew WI cricket. try something guys, if you dont try, every team will fry you like this.

  • on June 14, 2010, 2:43 GMT

    The WestIndies team is very poor and only a fool would think otherwise. I'm westindian and things are too hard financially here for anyone to spend hard earn dollars to go see millionaire cricketers get beaten game after game after game. It not fair to us at all. They have no pride and if by any chance they do then they must simply be no good.

  • Proteas_Supporter on June 14, 2010, 3:19 GMT

    well done SA and really sorry for the WI. i thought the declaration by SA was arrogant and it might backfire but once again the bowlers did a decent job. congrats for steyn on reaching the landmark and hope to see the best of you in the future as well. morkel was equally good. i think SA have the perfect team combination. parnell should comeback for the second test in place of tsotsobe. smith played well but unfortunate on missing an hundred. duminy has to sit out for at least a couple of years or if any player gets injured he can replace. prince looks relieved in the middle order. all the best for the rest of the series.

  • exuma on June 14, 2010, 3:21 GMT

    Why is Dowling opening for the WI, he a good first class player but, not test material. He has never faced / made runs against bowlers of Styne/Morkle caliber. what happned to grooming a young team?, he is almost overthe hill. guess he is being rewarded for stickin with the WI administration and playing against Bangalades. Where is Ganga, chattergoon, Richards, Simmonds, Bharat- these are the players to be groomed for the future. When Chanderpaul and Gayle retire, that's it for WI cricket, thay are the only two caliber batsmen in the team, Sarwan is always injured, so dosen't contributing consistently. May be he is saving himself to play for the US team, there is no age restriction there, just have to have big name and cant make another country team and you are included. WI need to be demoted to 2nd division along with Zimbabwe and Bangladesh, however bangladesh did show more fight against England, not sure WI want to play them now, they will actually put up some fight.