West Indies v South Africa, 2nd Test, St Kitts June 17, 2010

West Indies under pressure to turn the corner

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Match facts

June 18-22, 2010
Start time 10.00am (14.00GMT)

Big Picture

Seven games into the tour and West Indies still don't know how to beat South Africa, irrespective of the format. This West Indies team is a pale shadow of the one that fought bravely in Australia just a few months ago. Injuries to key players like Ramnaresh Sarwan and Fidel Edwards may have pegged their fortunes back a bit, but unfortunately, the other senior players look a deflated bunch. The intimidation from Chris Gayle is missing, so is the stodgy resistance from Shivnarine Chanderpaul.

Their capitulation for 102 in the first Test at Trinidad was a sorry sight, after their bowlers did a decent job to restrict South Africa to 352. Nelon Pascal is not a batsman, but his dismissal in both innings - attempting a one-legged Caribbean style hoick - was a comical, yet depressing sight if you were a West Indies supporter. Besides him, the specialists at the top were out bowled shouldering arms, Narsingh Deonarine's first-innings dismissal a case in point. Such shots don't give confidence that the team is out there to fight it out.

Despite that abject display, an unchanged team was named for the second Test. With the A team away in England, there wouldn't have been a large pool of players to pick from. The best they can do is to slot batsmen in positions they're more familiar with. Given their poor form, a draw at St Kitts will be as good as a victory. For inspiration, they need to run tapes of the Adelaide Test late last year when Chris Gayle carried his bat in the second innings to put his team in front.

South Africa on the hand have fewer worries and credit should go to the way Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel have forged such a deadly combination with the new ball. The slow pitches in the Caribbean haven't made them any less lethal. They showed what the home side lacked - bowlers with raw pace. The visitors, apart from catching up with the World Cup action at home, also celebrated their national youth day by coaching youngsters at a clinic at Warner Park.

Form guide (last five completed matches)

West Indies LLDLL
South Africa WLWWD

Watch out for...

Chris Gayle: The West Indies captain was talked about at length during the one-dayers on how his performances have a direct influence on the way the team plays. If he fires, the side's uplifted, but if he doesn't, the rest throw in the towel. Ideally, at least one among the others in the middle order will have to put his hand up and cover the slack. If Gayle has to show more responsibility, he can adopt a change in approach and shed his attacking instincts a bit. If he minimises the risks, he can bat longer and drop anchor, allowing the rest to bat around him. The Adelaide Test is an example of the recent past. Gayle has done it before and now it's his chance to lead by example.

Paul Harris: His role in Trinidad was made redundant with Steyn and Morkel hogging most of the wickets. He was preferred to Johan Botha for the Test, despite not being in sparkling form in the last few Tests. If the pitch takes turn, Harris could play an important role. Coach Corrie van Zyl identified some technical problems in Harris' action and said he would work on it to help him get more turn.

Team news

Kemar Roach, probably the fastest bowler in the region, was retained after missing the first game and the assumption is he has recovered from an ankle injury. If he's fit, he should walk in, replacing either Pascal or Ravi Rampaul. The under-performing middle order will worry West Indies, so there's a chance for Darren Bravo to come in place of probably Deonarine. Brendan Nash could be pushed down the order to No.5, where he's more comfortable.

West Indies (likely) 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Travis Dowlin, 3 Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 4 Darren Bravo/Narsingh Deonarine, 5 Brendan Nash, 6 Dwayne Bravo (vice-capt), 7 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 8 Sulieman Benn, 9 Shane Shillingford, 10 and 11 two among Ravi Rampaul/Kemar Roach/Nelon Pascal

South Africa are likely to play the same team. van Zyl said Harris will not be replaced by any other spinner.

South Africa (likely) 1 Graeme Smith (capt), 2 Alviro Petersen, 3 Jacques Kallis, 4 AB de Villiers, 5 Hashim Amla, 6 Ashwell Prince, 7 Mark Boucher (wk), 8 Paul Harris, 9 Dale Steyn, 10 Morne Morkel, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe

Pitch and conditions

The short boundaries at Warner Park could lead to a high-scoring Test, if the pitch is conducive enough. Rain intervened in Trinidad and showers are forecast for St Kitts too.

Stats and Trivia

  • This venue has hosted only one Test so far, between West Indies and India in 2006. Centuries by Daren Ganga and Sarwan took West Indies to 581 and the bowlers put India under pressure, restricting India to below the follow-on target. West Indies opted to bat on and the game drifted towards a draw.

  • West Indies last beat South Africa in an international match in 2007, the Port Elizabeth Test. Since then, the losing streak stands at 17, across all formats.

  • There are milestones to be achieved - Jacques Kallis needs another 89 for 11,000 Test runs, Graeme Smith another 88 for 7000 runs and Gayle another 73 for 6000 runs.

Quotes

"Before the first Test, we spoke about the fact that we were going to be tested, not having played Test cricket for quite a while. In a three-Test series the next match is just as crucial. We can't afford to take our foot off the gas at all."
Graeme Smith

"The batsmen can improve and a few of those 50s and 60s should have been centuries. I was impressed, however, with the manner in which we fought back after losing three wickets late on the first afternoon."
Corrie van Zyl reflects on the first Test

"We have to believe in ourselves and play good, hard cricket.We have to try and make the necessary adjustments for the next Test match."
Chris Gayle

Kanishkaa Balachandran is a sub-editor at Cricinfo

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  • Silva-Surfa on June 18, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Can't believe the selectors only made one change to the final eleven. Darren Bravo is ignored yet again, Dowlin who looked like a rabbit in headlights gets another chance. And Rampaul who was wicketless and completely non-threatening with his wayward miltary-medium pace in Trinidad, gets another opportunity again. If i was Pascal, i would feel hard-done by, because he didn't bowl too badly, considering it was his debut. I don't hold much hope with this team, unless there's a individual bit of brilliance from somewhere, we are never able to compete collectively as a team. I would love them to prove me wrong, but i very much doubt it.

  • umpire on June 18, 2010, 13:51 GMT

    Chris Gayle does not show leadership at the crease. He's all flash and dash.

    There are times, in my opinion, when he should bat lower in the order where, when the sheen is off the ball, he can capitalise and pummel the opposition to smitherines, which he, as we all know, is quite capable of.

    I'm deeply disappointed to see West Indies cricket reaching such lows.

  • rogist on June 18, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    i want to knnow y sammy is not in the side an y is rampaul doing playing cricket for the wi the man is not a bowler,gayle needs to bat at #4 what about smith an richards should open the battingthen chand at 3

  • on June 18, 2010, 10:48 GMT

    WI cricket is nothing much. There is no proper system in place. We are loser and we are looking to stay that way. If ICC take our test status, we do not care. As long there is a party some where. Two spinner in the test in Trinidad(we do not ever have one that come close of mastering the art of bowling spin. Most of our boys is too fat (rampal,deonarine). There is need for tall and slim fast bowlers.(do a search) Our batsman mentality is to swing. Batsmen need to survive in the crease for a period of time then start playing shots. Our batmen wants to play shot then survive. I don't even want to pick a squad for the upcoming test,since there is not a proper 14 to choose from. GO back with 11 batmen which five is fast bowlers, a SPINNER, wkt-keeper (open the batting.) note fast bowler should stop playing football and learn the technique of batting. WE WILL START TO WIN.........................

  • ranpath on June 18, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    In with the new and out with the old. Why do we keep picking these 30-something players who we can only get maybe 2 or 3 good years from ( e.g. nash, richards ) or who cannot cope at this level ( e.g. Dowlin, reifer ). Go with the young players ( below 25 ) who may lose at first but after a few years of playing will surely gain the experience to become a top notch side. On another note commentator Cozier was very vocal about ramdin exposing the tailenders to the bowling too quickly. I would like to suggest to the gentleman to check the archives and witness to chandrepaul's guilt in regard to this. Finally much has been made of the dual spin attack that the wi now have. People please i have seen the two gentlemen play quite often. I am sorry to say that we are acting under an illusion...because unless the wicket offers assistance these two pretenders are ineffectual.

  • CricketingStargazer on June 18, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    What can one say that is remotely new? Sides have gone through slumps before, but this is something on an unprecedented scale. Apart from a series where an England side in turmoil was ambushed and the series finished on completely dead surfaces where batsmen racked-up immense scores (and even then the West Indies only barely survived), the West Indies haven't looked like winning a Test or a series for a long time. Their slump is getting Zimbabwe-like, pre-withdraw from Tests. The question is soon going to be "how long will the big sides want to continue playing this side?" Right now, painful as it may sound, they need to spend two or three years playing and beating Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and New Zealand before their Test status starts coming into jeopardy. The public won't like it. The players won't llike it, but they need to start learning to win again and quickly.

  • NICKPMB on June 18, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    Regarding milestones, what about Mark Boucher, 2 more wickets and becomes first w/keeper to get to 500 test wickets, will that ever be beaten in the history of the game..

  • Bamber on June 18, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    I watched Tino Best racing in and bowling at 90mph in Yorks v lancs 20/20 last night at Headingley. He seems to have fallen out of contention for WI - is there a particular reason? Surely WI need to get more pace into their attack.

  • AMowlana on June 18, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Dear Cricinfo Reporters, I read all the comments and they are facutal about W.Indies All seem to come from their hearts. But the thing is no one in WICB will take note of it seriously. Cricnfo can do a great favour to the W.Indies cricket by taking all these articles, using your journalistic skills, summarize all these comments send to the WICB to hit where it matters. I donno which nut in Digicel got them into a mess of sponsoring the present Windies cricket. Their product/services will be deemed as good as the present Windies team. I urge all sponsors of Windies cricket to immediately withdraw. There is nothing left and no hope. Windies team is bankrupt and needs close down. PLEASE PLEASE PUBLISH THIS.

  • BellCurve on June 18, 2010, 6:16 GMT

    @ Kanishkaa Balachandran - good overview; would like to make one addition to the milestones you have mentioned -- Boucher is just 2 dismissals away from becoming the first wicketkeeper to reach 500 dismissals in Tests. For some reason his achievements are seldom mentioned. On the contrarary, most pundits seem to want to get rid of him, which I find bizarre.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 18, 2010, 15:00 GMT

    Can't believe the selectors only made one change to the final eleven. Darren Bravo is ignored yet again, Dowlin who looked like a rabbit in headlights gets another chance. And Rampaul who was wicketless and completely non-threatening with his wayward miltary-medium pace in Trinidad, gets another opportunity again. If i was Pascal, i would feel hard-done by, because he didn't bowl too badly, considering it was his debut. I don't hold much hope with this team, unless there's a individual bit of brilliance from somewhere, we are never able to compete collectively as a team. I would love them to prove me wrong, but i very much doubt it.

  • umpire on June 18, 2010, 13:51 GMT

    Chris Gayle does not show leadership at the crease. He's all flash and dash.

    There are times, in my opinion, when he should bat lower in the order where, when the sheen is off the ball, he can capitalise and pummel the opposition to smitherines, which he, as we all know, is quite capable of.

    I'm deeply disappointed to see West Indies cricket reaching such lows.

  • rogist on June 18, 2010, 13:13 GMT

    i want to knnow y sammy is not in the side an y is rampaul doing playing cricket for the wi the man is not a bowler,gayle needs to bat at #4 what about smith an richards should open the battingthen chand at 3

  • on June 18, 2010, 10:48 GMT

    WI cricket is nothing much. There is no proper system in place. We are loser and we are looking to stay that way. If ICC take our test status, we do not care. As long there is a party some where. Two spinner in the test in Trinidad(we do not ever have one that come close of mastering the art of bowling spin. Most of our boys is too fat (rampal,deonarine). There is need for tall and slim fast bowlers.(do a search) Our batsman mentality is to swing. Batsmen need to survive in the crease for a period of time then start playing shots. Our batmen wants to play shot then survive. I don't even want to pick a squad for the upcoming test,since there is not a proper 14 to choose from. GO back with 11 batmen which five is fast bowlers, a SPINNER, wkt-keeper (open the batting.) note fast bowler should stop playing football and learn the technique of batting. WE WILL START TO WIN.........................

  • ranpath on June 18, 2010, 10:32 GMT

    In with the new and out with the old. Why do we keep picking these 30-something players who we can only get maybe 2 or 3 good years from ( e.g. nash, richards ) or who cannot cope at this level ( e.g. Dowlin, reifer ). Go with the young players ( below 25 ) who may lose at first but after a few years of playing will surely gain the experience to become a top notch side. On another note commentator Cozier was very vocal about ramdin exposing the tailenders to the bowling too quickly. I would like to suggest to the gentleman to check the archives and witness to chandrepaul's guilt in regard to this. Finally much has been made of the dual spin attack that the wi now have. People please i have seen the two gentlemen play quite often. I am sorry to say that we are acting under an illusion...because unless the wicket offers assistance these two pretenders are ineffectual.

  • CricketingStargazer on June 18, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    What can one say that is remotely new? Sides have gone through slumps before, but this is something on an unprecedented scale. Apart from a series where an England side in turmoil was ambushed and the series finished on completely dead surfaces where batsmen racked-up immense scores (and even then the West Indies only barely survived), the West Indies haven't looked like winning a Test or a series for a long time. Their slump is getting Zimbabwe-like, pre-withdraw from Tests. The question is soon going to be "how long will the big sides want to continue playing this side?" Right now, painful as it may sound, they need to spend two or three years playing and beating Bangladesh, Zimbabwe and New Zealand before their Test status starts coming into jeopardy. The public won't like it. The players won't llike it, but they need to start learning to win again and quickly.

  • NICKPMB on June 18, 2010, 9:18 GMT

    Regarding milestones, what about Mark Boucher, 2 more wickets and becomes first w/keeper to get to 500 test wickets, will that ever be beaten in the history of the game..

  • Bamber on June 18, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    I watched Tino Best racing in and bowling at 90mph in Yorks v lancs 20/20 last night at Headingley. He seems to have fallen out of contention for WI - is there a particular reason? Surely WI need to get more pace into their attack.

  • AMowlana on June 18, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Dear Cricinfo Reporters, I read all the comments and they are facutal about W.Indies All seem to come from their hearts. But the thing is no one in WICB will take note of it seriously. Cricnfo can do a great favour to the W.Indies cricket by taking all these articles, using your journalistic skills, summarize all these comments send to the WICB to hit where it matters. I donno which nut in Digicel got them into a mess of sponsoring the present Windies cricket. Their product/services will be deemed as good as the present Windies team. I urge all sponsors of Windies cricket to immediately withdraw. There is nothing left and no hope. Windies team is bankrupt and needs close down. PLEASE PLEASE PUBLISH THIS.

  • BellCurve on June 18, 2010, 6:16 GMT

    @ Kanishkaa Balachandran - good overview; would like to make one addition to the milestones you have mentioned -- Boucher is just 2 dismissals away from becoming the first wicketkeeper to reach 500 dismissals in Tests. For some reason his achievements are seldom mentioned. On the contrarary, most pundits seem to want to get rid of him, which I find bizarre.

  • Mels04 on June 18, 2010, 5:58 GMT

    CSA please drop harris as he is not affective as we know him it is right time for botha to make comeback now as you did with dumminy. Also drop L tsotsobe for Ryan Macleran. RSA X11 1 Graeme Smith (capt), 2 Alviro Petersen, 3 Jacques Kallis, 4 AB de Villiers, 5 Hashim Amla, 6 Ashwell Prince, 7 Mark Boucher (wk), 8 Ryan Maclaren, 9 J Botha, 10 Dale Steyn, 11 Morne Morkel and as for

    WI 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Travis Dowlin, 3 Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 4 Darren Bravo, 5 Richards (wk), 6 Dwayne Bravo (vice-capt), 7 Darren Sammy 8 Sulieman Benn, 9 Shane Shillingford,10Ravi Rampaul, 11 Kemar Roach. with extra spin of Gayle himself and extra fast medium bowling of John Bravo i see WI giving us run for our money

  • AndyZaltzmannsHair on June 18, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    Hashim Amla is under some pressure, he's gone ONE WHOLE Test Match without scoring some runs....

  • on June 18, 2010, 4:31 GMT

    We put forward all manner suggestions but the truth is that this team is not very good. This team has 3 bona fide international players: Gayle, Sarwan and Chanderpaul. Gayle is a feast or famine player and lately he has been more famine than feast, Sarwan is brittle and cannot stay in lineup for extended periods, Chanderpaul has been old reliable for so long he is worn out and nearing the end, I would give him a rest for the remainder of the SA tour and hope he can be rejuvenated for a while. The rest of the squad are imposters masquerading as cricketers, no matter who the selectors give a shot the rest is the same - failure.

  • decaby on June 18, 2010, 4:29 GMT

    THE WI SELECTORS HAVE NO VISION... YEA I SAID IT THEY HAVE NO VISION... DROP DOWLIN DEONARINE AND RAMPHALL... DOWLIN AND DEONARINE ARE IDIOTIC WHEN IT COMES TO BATTING AND RAMP HASNT BOWLED A WICKET TAKING BALL SINCE HIS WOEFUL DEBUT... AND BOWLER WITH COMMONSENSE WOULD ATLEAST IMITATE THE SA BOWLERS LENGTHS ATLEAST... NASH WILL FAIL AT NO3 DO THE WI SELECTORS HAVE A PLAN... I THOUGHT WHEN ITS BROKEN TRY FIX IT NOT LEAVE IT ALONE... PLEASE HELP US....

  • on June 18, 2010, 3:46 GMT

    Wishes from Sri Lanka for the test....boys beat the hell out of the ball.....the only thing the windies team needs currently is a morale boost...these lads can be killers if its given properly......hope they win and i am praying on it

  • Proteas_Supporter on June 18, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    i hope the pitch might turn from the 3rd day onwards. SA have got the perfect team combination to seal this match also. what happened to parnell, i want tsotsobe to be replaced by either botha or parnell. WI on the other hand are not impressive. well things will not change for them in this series, even-though they make certain changes. anyhow all the best for both the teams, hope there is some challenge from the WI.

  • ToMegaTherion1986 on June 18, 2010, 3:26 GMT

    I think Gayle should be opener but he need someone with him to take the pressure of Gayle, and Chanderpaul. Here is a Windies XI i think that shoulde be first XI

    1-Gayle (take away the captaincy so he can just worry about making runs) 2-Darren Ganga (if he is playing well) or Nash 3-Dowlin 4-Chanderpaul 5-Sarwan (if fit) or Darren Bravo 6-Nash (if Ganga plays) or Pascal or Pollard (give him a go in tests, what else they got to loose.) 7-Ramdin+ (and make him captain too, Gayle is under too much pressure) 8-Benn (a great find for them) or Miller (if Benn is unavailable for some reason) 9-Edwards (if fit) or Rampaul 10-Roach 11-Taylor

  • exuma on June 18, 2010, 1:54 GMT

    WI under pressure !!.NO pressure man, these guys are so accustom to loosing that they will be surprise if they win. The only pressure they under, is to finish the game early to get to the fet & meet up all them girls they have in the different islands. The team should be 1- gayle, 2- richards,3-chanderpaul, 4-Darren Bravo, 5-nash, 6-Dwayne Bravo, 7-Ramdin, 8-Benn, 9- Slillinford, 10-Rampaul, 11-Roach. Chander should bat at 3, it would be hard in Darren to bat at 3 sepecially if one of the opners go early, chanders is the most experience and need to step up and allow the younger player a chance to play them self in. Chanders you cant only bat at the nonstriker end, this time the WI need you to face MR Styne, Morkle & Kallis- just block them all day, till them back brake.

  • ToMegaTherion1986 on June 18, 2010, 0:19 GMT

    The West Indies truely are a sorry sight for any Cricket lover. So much tallent so little returned for it. I mean Bangladesh and Zimbabwe give them a good run these days, it really is pathetic to think how far they hav fallen.

  • on June 17, 2010, 23:44 GMT

    Drop Dowlin, and Gayle! Bring in D Bravo and Roach and Pascal. Gayle said it himself: the problem in batting is the opening, the problem in bowling is we run out of steam. Deonarine and Nash to open with the extra bowler.

  • duncanmoo on June 17, 2010, 23:26 GMT

    @Metman finally someone agreeing with me, but I did not watch footage, perhaps Harris did do something, but really with Benn having been the wrecking ball for SA, why did Harris only take 3 and go for a lot of runs?

  • fiazyamin on June 17, 2010, 22:21 GMT

    I think Darren Bravo should get a chance in the playing 11 but like Silva-Surfa said he has a bad feeling Deonarine might be dropped i too have that feeling but i dont think he is the guy that should get axed because even though he got out to a stupid shot in the first innings,he still managed some runs when the others failed miserably so maybe they should drop dowlin instead..... but that leaves the opening position with gayle open if they do ...

  • ganja_man on June 17, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    We need to get rid of Otis Gibson. If John Dyson was fired because of his record, then Otis should go NOW. Since he's started the team has been putting in very average performances and we look well short of ideas. After getting rid of Otis, the next step is to axe Chris Gayle as captain, and then the WICB needs to fire itself. There - problem solved.

  • Silva-Surfa on June 17, 2010, 18:27 GMT

    Gotta give props to the selectors sticking with a Squad that took a thumping in the first test. I hope the players repay that faith with a better performance. I'm not expecting the boyz to beat the Saffers, but i expect more discipline and fight. The rankings don't lie (SA no.2, WI no.8) but i want to see a more competitve effort. The fact that Dowlin is still there suggests that he'll probably play, i can't see why because his confidence looks shot. Personally i'd like to see Darren Bravo and Roach come in for Dowlin and Rampaul, but i've got a bad feeling that Deonarine and Pascal will be the ones to make way. My eleven for St Kitts would be as follows: 1.Gayle, 2.Deonarine, 3.Darren Bravo, 4.Chanderpaul, 5.Nash, 6.Dwayne Bravo, 7.Ramdin, 8.Shillingford, 9.Benn, 10.Roach, 11.Pascal.

  • simonviller on June 17, 2010, 18:20 GMT

    I agree with N.J ! Dale Richards should be given a chance to play in the test to this point . Something is wrong here with this selection people . A good opening bat has to have the ability to play the short pitched ball and to score off it ,whether cutting or hooking . I don't see any one in the team at present other than Gayle who can do such ,so give the guy achance ,a real chance also .

  • Metman on June 17, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    @Kanishkaa Balachandran,look! the wicket in TT took spin from day one.How come you continue to glorify Paul Harris ,by saying that if the wicket in St.Kitts takes spin,that he could play an important role!An important role,HOW?????If SA knows any better,they would play Botha ,and send home Harris,who is nothing more than an ordinary club slow bowler.This man hardly turned a ball on a wicket that two other spinners took over 10 wickets in the match.

  • on June 17, 2010, 16:56 GMT

    west indies team to be properly balance , how can u drop dale richards who played an important role in the one days ,with scores ot two fifties and thirty something to play a player who has been tried before and has fail , why? i think otis needs to have a serious talk with the selectors or have a look at the team it is going back instead of forward

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  • on June 17, 2010, 16:56 GMT

    west indies team to be properly balance , how can u drop dale richards who played an important role in the one days ,with scores ot two fifties and thirty something to play a player who has been tried before and has fail , why? i think otis needs to have a serious talk with the selectors or have a look at the team it is going back instead of forward

  • Metman on June 17, 2010, 18:11 GMT

    @Kanishkaa Balachandran,look! the wicket in TT took spin from day one.How come you continue to glorify Paul Harris ,by saying that if the wicket in St.Kitts takes spin,that he could play an important role!An important role,HOW?????If SA knows any better,they would play Botha ,and send home Harris,who is nothing more than an ordinary club slow bowler.This man hardly turned a ball on a wicket that two other spinners took over 10 wickets in the match.

  • simonviller on June 17, 2010, 18:20 GMT

    I agree with N.J ! Dale Richards should be given a chance to play in the test to this point . Something is wrong here with this selection people . A good opening bat has to have the ability to play the short pitched ball and to score off it ,whether cutting or hooking . I don't see any one in the team at present other than Gayle who can do such ,so give the guy achance ,a real chance also .

  • Silva-Surfa on June 17, 2010, 18:27 GMT

    Gotta give props to the selectors sticking with a Squad that took a thumping in the first test. I hope the players repay that faith with a better performance. I'm not expecting the boyz to beat the Saffers, but i expect more discipline and fight. The rankings don't lie (SA no.2, WI no.8) but i want to see a more competitve effort. The fact that Dowlin is still there suggests that he'll probably play, i can't see why because his confidence looks shot. Personally i'd like to see Darren Bravo and Roach come in for Dowlin and Rampaul, but i've got a bad feeling that Deonarine and Pascal will be the ones to make way. My eleven for St Kitts would be as follows: 1.Gayle, 2.Deonarine, 3.Darren Bravo, 4.Chanderpaul, 5.Nash, 6.Dwayne Bravo, 7.Ramdin, 8.Shillingford, 9.Benn, 10.Roach, 11.Pascal.

  • ganja_man on June 17, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    We need to get rid of Otis Gibson. If John Dyson was fired because of his record, then Otis should go NOW. Since he's started the team has been putting in very average performances and we look well short of ideas. After getting rid of Otis, the next step is to axe Chris Gayle as captain, and then the WICB needs to fire itself. There - problem solved.

  • fiazyamin on June 17, 2010, 22:21 GMT

    I think Darren Bravo should get a chance in the playing 11 but like Silva-Surfa said he has a bad feeling Deonarine might be dropped i too have that feeling but i dont think he is the guy that should get axed because even though he got out to a stupid shot in the first innings,he still managed some runs when the others failed miserably so maybe they should drop dowlin instead..... but that leaves the opening position with gayle open if they do ...

  • duncanmoo on June 17, 2010, 23:26 GMT

    @Metman finally someone agreeing with me, but I did not watch footage, perhaps Harris did do something, but really with Benn having been the wrecking ball for SA, why did Harris only take 3 and go for a lot of runs?

  • on June 17, 2010, 23:44 GMT

    Drop Dowlin, and Gayle! Bring in D Bravo and Roach and Pascal. Gayle said it himself: the problem in batting is the opening, the problem in bowling is we run out of steam. Deonarine and Nash to open with the extra bowler.

  • ToMegaTherion1986 on June 18, 2010, 0:19 GMT

    The West Indies truely are a sorry sight for any Cricket lover. So much tallent so little returned for it. I mean Bangladesh and Zimbabwe give them a good run these days, it really is pathetic to think how far they hav fallen.

  • exuma on June 18, 2010, 1:54 GMT

    WI under pressure !!.NO pressure man, these guys are so accustom to loosing that they will be surprise if they win. The only pressure they under, is to finish the game early to get to the fet & meet up all them girls they have in the different islands. The team should be 1- gayle, 2- richards,3-chanderpaul, 4-Darren Bravo, 5-nash, 6-Dwayne Bravo, 7-Ramdin, 8-Benn, 9- Slillinford, 10-Rampaul, 11-Roach. Chander should bat at 3, it would be hard in Darren to bat at 3 sepecially if one of the opners go early, chanders is the most experience and need to step up and allow the younger player a chance to play them self in. Chanders you cant only bat at the nonstriker end, this time the WI need you to face MR Styne, Morkle & Kallis- just block them all day, till them back brake.