West Indies v South Africa, 3rd Test, Barbados, 4th day June 29, 2010

Clinical South Africa wrap up series 2-0

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South Africa 346 (Prince 78*, de Villiers 73, Benn 6-81) and 49 for 3 (Amla 27, Roach 3-22) beat West Indies 231 (Bravo 61, Botha 4-56, Steyn 3-37) and 161 (Chanderpaul 71*, Morkel 3-33, Steyn 3-36) by seven wickets
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details
How they were out
Hawk-eye

South Africa inflicted a dispiriting series loss on West Indies at a venue that was once the home team's fortress and finished the bilateral tour unbeaten. Shivnarine Chanderpaul's hopes of compiling a competitive lead on the fourth morning were quashed by a menacing spell from Morne Morkel, who cut through the West Indies tail to ensure a quick end to their resistance.

Chanderpaul had stood firm amid West Indies' capitulation on the third day, and taken his team into the lead with support from Shane Shillingford, who was dismissed shortly before stumps. The men who followed, though, were unable to put up a fight.

Morkel attacked Sulieman Benn from round the wicket, getting the ball to move both ways and troubling the left-hander who played and missed often. He was ultimately done in by one that nipped back in sharply to break through his defences and send the off stump cartwheeling. Kemar Roach followed soon after, edging a drive to Mark Boucher after a series of short balls.

Chanderpaul had shown confidence in the tail, not hesitating to pick singles early in the over, but was left watching as his partners fell quickly. The debutant Brandon Bess poked a short-of-length delivery to slip, as Morkel polished off the tail in three overs, leaving South Africa just 47 to chase. Roach displayed plenty of aggression, nipping out three wickets, striking Graeme Smith on the neck with a bouncer, and even getting involved in an extended verbal exchange with Jacques Kallis. But the game was over and done with.

The West Indies captain Chris Gayle had called on his batsmen to shoulder more responsibility during his team's 5-0 debacle in the one-dayers. However, some of those who did play the Test series failed to fulfil to their role. Dale Richards, drafted in for this Test in place of Travis Dowlin, conceded his wicket cheaply in both innings, playing across the line to be trapped plumb, and spooning a catch off a needless pull.

More worrying would be the case of Narsingh Deonarine. He had looked solid in the first innings before, inexplicably, switching to an aggressive approach to be bowled. In the second, he played a reckless drive first ball to offer a catch to short cover. Equally irresponsible was the dismissal of Denesh Ramdin, the former vice-captain, who slashed a wide delivery to the keeper in the second innings.

Though South Africa's pace attack had far more venom, the battle in the spin department was more evenly contested with each of the four frontline spinners in this Test extracting assistance from a gradually deteriorating track. The move to pick a spinner, Johan Botha, in place of left-arm seamer Lonwabo Tsotsobe, proved decisive for the visitors. And the seamers Dale Steyn and Morkel, on a pitch that was of lesser benefit to them than the slow bowlers, varied their lengths superbly, ruffling up the batsmen with the short deliveries and creating the temptation to play by pushing the odd one fuller.

But while South Africa, with more assuredness in their batting and a generally superior outfit, were favourites throughout, their task was made easier by the reckless approach adopted by their opponents.

Siddhartha Talya is an editorial assistant at Cricinfo

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  • on July 6, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    congratzzzzz proteus.......

  • Metman on July 2, 2010, 19:47 GMT

    @Rihat and all those others who continue to live in the days of racism.Look this is the year 2010, IF KALLIS DIDNT WANT ANYBODY TO BOWLED SHORT PITCHED BALLS AND BOUNCERS AT HIM,WHY THE HELL DID HE BOWLED BOUNCERS AND SHORT PITCH BALLS AT PEOPLE,TAILENDERS AT THAT? Know what was his problem?he cannot come to grips with the fact that he cannot handle a young 21 year old rookie fast bowler.It is alright for people to sledge the West Indians,but when the shoe is on the other foot,it is harassment.But to all you racists,we have one real fast bowler now,Roach!we need at least 2 more,and in the next 2 years,the west indian pacers will terrorise batsmen around the world AGAIN!If Stein was a west indian,he would have been banned for years.I hope WI officials and Lawyers are taking a close look at what is happening to the WEST INDIES TEAM when it comes to punishments.

  • Metman on July 2, 2010, 19:22 GMT

    @Brad400! are you foolish?absolute rubbish!How can you say in one breath that samuels,fletcher and baugh had too many chances and in another breath say that Ramdin should be retained.?Ramdin Rampaul and Ganga are rubbish.Butts said he is concern about Ramdin,goes on to say that he dropped catches in every test match,muffled a run out and averaged around 15 a match,and then goes on to say that he is still the best keeper around.MR.BUTTS ,you cannot make a statement like that and then say he is the best keeper around.HE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE WORST KEEPER AROUND!Dont you understand what you have said?You also said that you could not pick someone out of the blue and put him into a match.SO WHAT WAS THE POSITION WITH BESS?WASNT HE PICKED OUT OF THE BLUE?after being dropped from the Guyana team for the last match of the 4 day competition or did you feel that being at the High Performance Centre,he would have put in a high performance in the test match?

  • BRAD400 on July 2, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    im sorry but players like samuels, carlton baugh, and andre fletcher should not be given anymore chances. Yes Ramdin has hit a slump but when u look at it there are no better wicketkeepers in the caribbean.

  • simonviller on July 1, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    Come on guy,Lets be fair to Richards ! Here is a guy who is willing to take on the qickies [who are backing- up our batasmen] and you are being critical of him .The guy has not had any match practice throughout the last several test and one-dayers prior to this tour and he is surprisingly called [like Dowlin and Nash ,after being in-active ] and is expected to be perfect . West Indies cricket needs guys like Richards,Dwayne Smith,Bravo and Simmons to help lift the team spirit and excite the fans . I hear talk of Samuels,but what has he done for the team with all his trials ? Looking good is just part of it . We need performers who can draw back the crowds with every aspect of the game .

  • everfaithful77 on June 30, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    GAYLE should do all West Indians a favour and RESIGN as captain because he can't provide the leadership needed to improve WI team performance. The SELECTORS should also resign because they have done a terrible job. They have operated mainly by trial & error and persisted in recycling FAILURES in all formats eg. Fletcher, Rampaul, Ramdin, Dw Smith, Tino Best, Wavel and Ryan Hinds. More important they failed to BLOOD many young players to international cricket. Look at the successful teams like Austalia, England and SA. They are constantly seeking out YOUNG talent among their ranks. Eg. Tait, Smith, Payne, Broad,Lumb, Kieswetter,Tsotsobe- they are young but if you don't give them the opportunity at INT level they will remain undiscovered talents. Pllayers like Russel, Brown, Holder, Walton, Perkins,Tonge and Caria must be given more INT exposure in any format. If Gayle and the selectors don't send in their resignations WICB must ask them to do so otherwise WI cricket won't improve.

  • on June 30, 2010, 18:04 GMT

    I have been watching West Indies cricket my whole life, and I have always been a cricket fanatic and a Die Hard West Indies fan, however at this point I am extremely frustrated and could care less about the West Indies team. There problem seems to be a lack of cricketing sense, as well as a lack of determination. There approach to test cricket was all wrong this series and that is one of the main reasons they lost. In tough situations, we saw our "batsmen" coming in and making risky shots characteristic of the type of stupid shots you would make in a 20/ 20 cricket game. I do not know whether this should be attributed to frustration a lack of concentration or simply a lack of confidence in there own ability to show grit and stick at the wicket, that they feel the need to prove themselves by going for a boundary even when the ball does not permit it. West Indies need to understand that you can score without fours and sixes, running between the wicket has always been lazy

  • Alkais on June 30, 2010, 16:20 GMT

    Oh Come on, Steve waugh is no saint. At the end of the day issue is solved, that should be fine. Now its high time, Captaincy shouldnot be changed.What WICB should do is identify 20 cricketers and stick with them for 2-3yrs as Aus did in 80s when they were almost at the rockbottom. That should give the players confidence of performing well. They should be disciplined. Even the coach shouldnt be changed. Nowadays game has become professional, but no harm in trying these things. They have nothing to lose. Tell the players that they will not be dropped from the team even if they dont perform for 4-6 matches.... Two more fastbowlers needs to be identified to support Kemar Roach. He is a good prospect.

  • WI_anaylst on June 30, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Any West Indian fan on here that is talkin about choppin and changing the team when one of our players just got spat it must be crazy. Everyone is always quick to label our players a disgrace and Steyn spits at Benn and this is being swept under the carpet?? "Benn must have started it"! He gets spits at so he must be the one to blame somehow! No one never told the rest of the teams not to sledge us all these years! Now all of a sudden it is a problem when West Indian players are doing it, and always blaming US as the problem. We are all supporting West Indies and as supporters we need to stick together and stop thinking about which players from our country we want in this team! A South African player spit at one of us like if he sees us as lesser beings and you guys are griping about bringing in Ganga and Samuels?? And we wonder why our cricket is in the gutter?? We never take a stand for anything!

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 30, 2010, 15:03 GMT

    if the wicb had any sense of direction & planning they would have advised either samuels 2 work on his keeping skills while on his ban. even if he was not a great keeper he could have easily walked into the team & taken Ramdin's place .

  • on July 6, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    congratzzzzz proteus.......

  • Metman on July 2, 2010, 19:47 GMT

    @Rihat and all those others who continue to live in the days of racism.Look this is the year 2010, IF KALLIS DIDNT WANT ANYBODY TO BOWLED SHORT PITCHED BALLS AND BOUNCERS AT HIM,WHY THE HELL DID HE BOWLED BOUNCERS AND SHORT PITCH BALLS AT PEOPLE,TAILENDERS AT THAT? Know what was his problem?he cannot come to grips with the fact that he cannot handle a young 21 year old rookie fast bowler.It is alright for people to sledge the West Indians,but when the shoe is on the other foot,it is harassment.But to all you racists,we have one real fast bowler now,Roach!we need at least 2 more,and in the next 2 years,the west indian pacers will terrorise batsmen around the world AGAIN!If Stein was a west indian,he would have been banned for years.I hope WI officials and Lawyers are taking a close look at what is happening to the WEST INDIES TEAM when it comes to punishments.

  • Metman on July 2, 2010, 19:22 GMT

    @Brad400! are you foolish?absolute rubbish!How can you say in one breath that samuels,fletcher and baugh had too many chances and in another breath say that Ramdin should be retained.?Ramdin Rampaul and Ganga are rubbish.Butts said he is concern about Ramdin,goes on to say that he dropped catches in every test match,muffled a run out and averaged around 15 a match,and then goes on to say that he is still the best keeper around.MR.BUTTS ,you cannot make a statement like that and then say he is the best keeper around.HE WOULD HAVE TO BE THE WORST KEEPER AROUND!Dont you understand what you have said?You also said that you could not pick someone out of the blue and put him into a match.SO WHAT WAS THE POSITION WITH BESS?WASNT HE PICKED OUT OF THE BLUE?after being dropped from the Guyana team for the last match of the 4 day competition or did you feel that being at the High Performance Centre,he would have put in a high performance in the test match?

  • BRAD400 on July 2, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    im sorry but players like samuels, carlton baugh, and andre fletcher should not be given anymore chances. Yes Ramdin has hit a slump but when u look at it there are no better wicketkeepers in the caribbean.

  • simonviller on July 1, 2010, 5:17 GMT

    Come on guy,Lets be fair to Richards ! Here is a guy who is willing to take on the qickies [who are backing- up our batasmen] and you are being critical of him .The guy has not had any match practice throughout the last several test and one-dayers prior to this tour and he is surprisingly called [like Dowlin and Nash ,after being in-active ] and is expected to be perfect . West Indies cricket needs guys like Richards,Dwayne Smith,Bravo and Simmons to help lift the team spirit and excite the fans . I hear talk of Samuels,but what has he done for the team with all his trials ? Looking good is just part of it . We need performers who can draw back the crowds with every aspect of the game .

  • everfaithful77 on June 30, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    GAYLE should do all West Indians a favour and RESIGN as captain because he can't provide the leadership needed to improve WI team performance. The SELECTORS should also resign because they have done a terrible job. They have operated mainly by trial & error and persisted in recycling FAILURES in all formats eg. Fletcher, Rampaul, Ramdin, Dw Smith, Tino Best, Wavel and Ryan Hinds. More important they failed to BLOOD many young players to international cricket. Look at the successful teams like Austalia, England and SA. They are constantly seeking out YOUNG talent among their ranks. Eg. Tait, Smith, Payne, Broad,Lumb, Kieswetter,Tsotsobe- they are young but if you don't give them the opportunity at INT level they will remain undiscovered talents. Pllayers like Russel, Brown, Holder, Walton, Perkins,Tonge and Caria must be given more INT exposure in any format. If Gayle and the selectors don't send in their resignations WICB must ask them to do so otherwise WI cricket won't improve.

  • on June 30, 2010, 18:04 GMT

    I have been watching West Indies cricket my whole life, and I have always been a cricket fanatic and a Die Hard West Indies fan, however at this point I am extremely frustrated and could care less about the West Indies team. There problem seems to be a lack of cricketing sense, as well as a lack of determination. There approach to test cricket was all wrong this series and that is one of the main reasons they lost. In tough situations, we saw our "batsmen" coming in and making risky shots characteristic of the type of stupid shots you would make in a 20/ 20 cricket game. I do not know whether this should be attributed to frustration a lack of concentration or simply a lack of confidence in there own ability to show grit and stick at the wicket, that they feel the need to prove themselves by going for a boundary even when the ball does not permit it. West Indies need to understand that you can score without fours and sixes, running between the wicket has always been lazy

  • Alkais on June 30, 2010, 16:20 GMT

    Oh Come on, Steve waugh is no saint. At the end of the day issue is solved, that should be fine. Now its high time, Captaincy shouldnot be changed.What WICB should do is identify 20 cricketers and stick with them for 2-3yrs as Aus did in 80s when they were almost at the rockbottom. That should give the players confidence of performing well. They should be disciplined. Even the coach shouldnt be changed. Nowadays game has become professional, but no harm in trying these things. They have nothing to lose. Tell the players that they will not be dropped from the team even if they dont perform for 4-6 matches.... Two more fastbowlers needs to be identified to support Kemar Roach. He is a good prospect.

  • WI_anaylst on June 30, 2010, 16:04 GMT

    Any West Indian fan on here that is talkin about choppin and changing the team when one of our players just got spat it must be crazy. Everyone is always quick to label our players a disgrace and Steyn spits at Benn and this is being swept under the carpet?? "Benn must have started it"! He gets spits at so he must be the one to blame somehow! No one never told the rest of the teams not to sledge us all these years! Now all of a sudden it is a problem when West Indian players are doing it, and always blaming US as the problem. We are all supporting West Indies and as supporters we need to stick together and stop thinking about which players from our country we want in this team! A South African player spit at one of us like if he sees us as lesser beings and you guys are griping about bringing in Ganga and Samuels?? And we wonder why our cricket is in the gutter?? We never take a stand for anything!

  • gottalovetheraindance on June 30, 2010, 15:03 GMT

    if the wicb had any sense of direction & planning they would have advised either samuels 2 work on his keeping skills while on his ban. even if he was not a great keeper he could have easily walked into the team & taken Ramdin's place .

  • on June 30, 2010, 14:08 GMT

    its really not surprising to see the wi loose again, the wicb needs to be dissolved, the entire organizational structure of wi cricket needs to be changed, including the coach and captain. look at this squad, look at the performances, it's ridiculous. you had ramdin who continues to fail, Gayle who continues to play irresponsibly, deonarine who seemed to think that he was batting as a no.8 batsman in the last two overs of a t20 match. Richards who played just as bad as dowlin, and nash who despite his century in the last match looks pretty ordinary against quality bowling as do most of the wi players.something drastic needs to be done cause it wont be too long before the wi gets kicked out of test cricket. oh and by the way @Rihat, ur suggestion that Roach and the WI team should respect kalis is total rubbish. in fact its a pity that Roach didn't floor kalis, then u would see how West Indians feel about ur request for respect.

  • jupiterlaw on June 30, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    In the event anyone is interested in the WI production for the three tests just concluded - Chanderpaul 300, Bravo 166, Deonarine 163, Gayle 159, Nash 142 Benn 101 Ramdin 63 and Shillingford 59. All but Chanderpaul had fled the burning deck.

  • Pablo123 on June 30, 2010, 14:02 GMT

    I totally agree Rihat.

    Kallis took the ball on the helmet, padded down the pitch and walked to the middle. This Roach fella decides to antagonise Kallis into a reaction, almost like, "what you gonna do? you didn't even see that ball". Kallis then just responded by waving him off and telling him to go back to his mark and get on with the game. Kemar Roach is an infant in the shadow of Kallis - who the hell does he think he is giving the legend the beady eye - couldn't believe it.

  • diri on June 30, 2010, 13:10 GMT

    Rihat is right. nobody from the westindies side has any right to disrespect a legend like kallis......o and a decent pitch and another westindies thrashing by SA....wish the last pitch was like this one and it would be 3-0 and a tour whitewash....is there any hope for the windies?????? not right now if they keep gale as captain. he is a one hit wonder who comes off every 20 or so innings plus he even said he doesnt wana play tests cause its a waste of time for him, how can you have a captain like that????? shocking

  • Metman on June 30, 2010, 12:45 GMT

    A fit WI team of the order of Gayle,Barath,Sarwan,Chanderpaul,Nash ,Bravo,Baugh,Benn,Taylor,Roach and Pedro Collins ,would have given the South Africans a run for their money.Collins was in every commentators books and fans alike after the last 4 day competition.What has happened to him?Instead of playing rubbish like Rampaul,Pascall and Bess,----,Collins should have been included ,and I am sure he would have taken more than 4 TIMES the total of all those 3 blind mice.,or is he still being punished for pulling out of a test series to fulfil an overseas contract.If that is the case ,I have no problem with that!I hope the same will apply to underachiever Pollard and concentrate on Russel of the A team.To all those who say that the WI deserves to lose,remember we were not at full strength.If Fidel Edwards was fit,then we would have turned to him instead of Collins.Gayle will continue to captain my side!.If not Gayle,then WHO?????????

  • jupiterlaw on June 30, 2010, 12:35 GMT

    Chris Gayle, in his post-match comments said something to the effect that he did not get the support he expected from a certain individual or individuals . In reading those comments, I was reminded by of that line in Chaucer's Canterbury Tales "if gold would rust, then what must iron do.

  • sudarsn on June 30, 2010, 12:23 GMT

    I fall short of words to praise the windies wall,chanderpaul,absolutely great,although the windies lost they r slowly but surely getting there players for the future,its sad bharath ,savan, fidel were injured,roach, pascal,the young u-19 holder,russel seems to be good allrouder, darren bravo,braithwite, samuel,benn,shillingford,pollards,and many more youngsters r there they require encouragment,guidance and the days r not far when my dream side will start doing well, they shud with right earnest start concetrating for the world cup with a set of youngsters and i m sure under gayle they will again b a champion side. lets put this series as bygone.

  • REALQUICKPACELIKEFIRE on June 30, 2010, 12:04 GMT

    WELL DONE KEMAR ROACH, I AM DELIGHTED TO SEE A YOUNG W.I. FAST BOWLER WHO CARES WHAT IS GOING ON AND HAS THE HEART TO SHOW IT ON THE FIELD! Regarding the future, a new captain, possibly Bravo who'd bring more energy to the role, could be a consideration. Chris is tiring of the role, I hope he can prosper once again as the destructful opener we all know and love. This series was always going to be one-sided when WI were without Barath, Sarwan, Taylor and Edwards. If W.I. had a full squad to pick from it would have been closer...but probably still 1-0 to S.A. Some new blood is needed, I want to see Andre Russell the fast bowling all-rounder given a run in the test side, hopefully healthy quicks too! We know the board and system is poor, in the meantime this team could be more competitive and give us something to watch and enjoy... 1.Gayle 2.Barath 3.Sarwan 4.Chanderpaul 5.Nash/Darren Bravo 6.Dwayne Bravo(c) 7.Russell 8.Baugh(w) 9.Benn 10.Taylor/Edwards if fit! 11.Roach

  • krlayne on June 30, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    I was so proud to see empty seats at all the grounds. It means that West Indians are no longer prepared to spend the money that they work so hard to make to watch a team that is not prepared to fight. The WI "A" team plays as good as any of the other "A" teams out there, but the supposedly "senior" squad (especially the batsmen) show no sort of resolve or fight. It was good to see the bowlers actually bowling well and restricting South Africa. Good to see Kemar Roach up in the face of Kallis. When Kallis was bowling short deliveries at the lower order, was Rihat watching? It got so bad at one point that the commentators called it ridiculous. He is supposed to be a great allrounder. Get the lower order out. Getting some of his own medicine got him upset? All Roach did was to do to him what he did to the spin bowler. All in all though, the bowlers did their job for the West Indies. It is the lack of commitment of the batsmen that let us down. Again. I honestly think baseball is in order.

  • olepolice on June 30, 2010, 11:22 GMT

    Well we lost again , i accept that but the selectors have to take the licks for not thinking outside the box, why pick Dowlin and Richards when a young opener probably Brathwaite could have been invested in , why bring back Darren Bravo and not play him , Dinesh , whom i love has to be replaced , maybe Walton , Deonarine must feel the hurt for his petulance when batting in critical situations he does not read the game well , and to Rihat , when Syeyn , Morkel and Kallis were bowling numerous bouncers at Shillingford and benn why did you not complain Kallis the great is a BIG CRY BABY, when the heat is on he got scared

  • Sanjiyan on June 30, 2010, 8:58 GMT

    The WI batsmen didnt gift their wickets away per se..when your facing top quality bowling you will make mistakes, get hot headed and play stupid shots to score runs. This happens on ALL levels of cricket everywhere. Some SA batsmen did exactly the same when Benn and Shillingford were bowling. The Thing between Roach and Kallis isnt all that much. Roach bowled his heart out and got 3 very deserved wickets. Kallis was dishing out the short stuff when he was bowling and knew he was in for some himself. Roach was firing on all cylinders and thats when a fast bowler looks for a confrontation with the batsman. Donald did the same to Atherton. Flintoff did it to Kallis last year and so on and so on. Its part of the game and its a part I love watching.

  • djdrastic on June 30, 2010, 8:01 GMT

    This whole test match was basically SA vs Chanderpaul.Poor guy got absolutely no support from his team mates.

    Pity about the on field altercations , but it's a tough game sometimes and people sometimes do out of character things when provoked or put under pressure.

  • on June 30, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    What words were exchanged between Kallis and Roach? I would really like to know why it would get so bad.

  • Blythesville on June 30, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    Rihat: What nonsense are you talking? If Kallis is going to send down 6 short balls at Windies batsmen, he better be prepared to face 6 short pitched balls himself.

    Funny thing, all the laws of the game were changed to mitigate Windies dominance. And when they show some fight, everyone labels it as "disrespectful" and "immature." No one ever questioned Warne's goading of umpires... and Shane Watson get's off with merely a warning for being a "passionate" cricketer.

    While the Windies are a mere shadow of their former self, the dialogue about any aggression in one-way and firmly against them. Watching these matches, the South Africans were the ones who started the barrage of short pitched bowling with the intention to injure. Kallis just got a taste of his own medicine and reacted poorly.

  • on June 30, 2010, 4:48 GMT

    Well well well.... yet another defeat for WI cricket team.. I don't know what is happening with them.... I think captaincy should be handed over to somebody else.. Gayle is an excellent player and has failed to score successfully in the recent past and which is the spot of bother for WI.. though he scored well in the series against australia last year.... but in this series he could only managed 2 half centuries.. In ODI, he is crossed 50 runs 4 times in his last 26 matches which is not real Gayle... I don't know but he has lost the charm... I hope he along with WI won't disappoint its fans in coming tour of SL in November.... they have ample of time to practice... Chanderpaul was awesome to watch in this series but I think Sarwan was misisng from the side...he should have been there.. Bravo showed some maturity in batting.. and Roach.... lol.. i don't know what happened to this young lad, un necessarily initiating the argument... neways all i would say is Good Luck WI.. Do well..!!!!!

  • on June 30, 2010, 4:27 GMT

    West Indies board are not using their heads. The only way to avoid defeat against real cricketing nations is to prepare lifeless pitches for all the test matches in a home series. We all know that as long as the pitch is a results pitch then West Indies will lose. I am so happy that the World cup is being played, maybe this was all planned to disguise this sorry series .Imagine,the World Cup playing in South Africa and the cricket team is here playing this meaningless series with a bunch of schoolboy cricketers in front of empty seats.

  • 9ST9 on June 30, 2010, 4:25 GMT

    It's a matter of attitude - the windies seeing the riches of T20 leagues are giving up on test-cricket. Remember what Gayle said last year about test cricket? W.indies are at a point where another series loss will not hurt them, they are beyond that. They do not play a test match - they just "participate" as if it were an obligation. Nevertheless this has to be expected when the team is not a national team. The sense of "national pride" which drives players to succeed at test cricket [a format where players toil for 5 days rather than earn big bucks playing fr 3-4 hours] cannot be instilled in a combined-xi like WI.

  • AyrtonS on June 30, 2010, 4:01 GMT

    Ganga is a total disaster as a batsman, Gale is the right choice. The problem is that he has no support from the untalented cast around him.

    Given a choice, the Trinidadians would like to see all 11 players in the West Indies team be from Trinidad, how sad they seem to forget that it is a West Indian team NOT a trinidadian one.

  • shonkhochil on June 30, 2010, 3:50 GMT

    Thanks God...At least people are not talking about taking away the test status of WI ! I can't remember when last time WI played well..they have some great player but for some reason they are always inconsistent with their performance.. I hope they stop 'Spending the night in a Club' & play cricket in the morning...

  • Rihat on June 30, 2010, 3:28 GMT

    Kemar Roach and West Indies, please learn to respect cricketers of the calibre of Jacque Kallis. Kallis has to his credit 11,000+ runs with 35 hundreds in Test matches and the new inexperienced and show-off Kemar Roach was behaving like he had just anihilated South Africa and Kallis. Right now Jacque Kallis by himself is worth more than 11 West Indian players put together. So buzz off and learn to act according to the situation.

    Reminds me of Curtly Ambrose dishing out verbals to Steve Waugh while he and Australia were thrashing West Indies mercilessly.

  • iceberghas on June 30, 2010, 3:16 GMT

    West Indies deserve to lose , Chris Gayle needs to make the bat do the talking and the WICB to create better pitches for Test Match Cricket good to see a return to form for chanderpaul

  • ssridhar on June 30, 2010, 2:55 GMT

    Good bye, WI cric, knowing well that WI will be defeated, I watched the 3rd Test. They have not given a thought to improvement in technique, attitude and so on. Same story of flashing strokes, not willing to stay in the middle. Hereafter I have no idea of watching any cricket match involving the WI team as they have never made self analysis and consequent improvement. Good bye once again !

  • mike5181 on June 30, 2010, 2:48 GMT

    @Something_Witty. New Zealand would do the exact same thing to you. End of.

  • fantomen on June 30, 2010, 2:40 GMT

    Going through the posts, I see that a lot of people here , as in the past, are talking about chopping and changes, about which player should be selected n which one should be axed. These people seem to think that perhaps if samuels or sarwan or edwards or whoever for that matter come to the team, WI will start performing better or perhaps even win. Is that the case? As Tony Cozier said during commentary yesterday, in the last fifteen years WI had 10 captains, 83 new payers, 11 coaches, 6 WICB presidents and 6 CEOs. And the results ??? Everybody can see them. In the last 5 years WI have won only 3 tests. So the malaise lies somewhere else. Any true WI fan or a Caribbean resident would know that the fault lies with the system and infrastructure that is part of the system. Surprisingly till the U-19 level WI cricketers have been doing very well at the international level. The problem perhaps lies in the failure to move ahead from the U-19 level to the senior level

  • Phat-Boy on June 30, 2010, 0:57 GMT

    LMAO that the word chokers is still getting thrown up despite South Africa chasing 400 in one test and recovering from 7-200 to win a series in Australia 18 months ago.

  • AyrtonS on June 29, 2010, 23:47 GMT

    maybe they should bring back the old dinosaurs like LLoyd and Richards. We might then be able to see their REAL colours.

  • on June 29, 2010, 21:57 GMT

    Ganga can't bat.. He has gotten a million test matches and has proven nothing. It doesn't matter who is captain the team sucks ass. These injuries are a huge problem with the current crop of west indian players... Sarwan, Taylor, Edwards Barath... all injured.Marlon Samuels is just returning from a suspension. I think he should have been included. His lack of match practice wouldn't make him as ineffective as some of these guys.. West Indies cricket is a joke at this point. I think they should take a couple of years off, get their cat together and maybe return in 2013

  • on June 29, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    GANGA FOR WEST INDIES CAPTAIN! Its as simple as that! Chris Gayle lacks the leadership qualities required to build a winning unit! Some players must go now. Ramdin must be shown the door! He was given loads of opportunities and failed miserably! TIME FOR SERIOUS CHANGE!!! I AM DISGUSTED AT THE WAY THE WI SELECTORS CHOOSE A WEST INDIES SIDE! It is utterly pathetic! There is so much talent out there! We need things in place to hone this talent, not just give them a try and then throw them away , for eg, Dwayne Smith, Andre Fletcher!! GANGA FOR CAPTAIN!!

  • Butee on June 29, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    The WIBC keeps insulting the West Indian fans by feilding a team of players with no purpose, drive, and the passion to represent. It all starts from the top and i will again ask for Gayle to be removed as captain. In all fairness to Gayle he is unable to perform when is has a bunch of players who are not sure how a bat should be held. As for Ramdin....he would never make those silly errors under Ganga, Rampaul on the other hand has gotten comfortable as a regular on the team and looks like he eats from everyone's plate for lunch.....I don't want to sound like the captain but i have seen some positives comming out of this series....Benn and Shillingford were EXCELLENT,Bess looks like a good find and these guys i will now pin my hopes upon to bring W.I to the top.

  • harikeshan on June 29, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    Its time the WICB bring back players like Samuels and Probably even a change of Captain may just about take the burden off Gayle. Ganga displayed a lot of character during the Champions T20 here in India. Above all WICB may wanna invest in someone who can instill discipline and work on the mental aspect of most players.

  • Something_Witty on June 29, 2010, 18:40 GMT

    Well what do you know? Some life in the pitch and it's another thrashing. Might I ask what the purpose of this series (and indeed, the ODI and T20 series) was? It served as little purpose as WI playing Australia last summer, less perhaps, given their current injured players. Shouldn't they be playing someone closer to their level? Bangladesh or New Zealand? There is no excitement in a series consisting of two absolute thrashings and one coma-inducing draw. This series served only to deflate South African bowling averages and inflate South African batting averages. I'm not saying it's either team's fault, I like the Saffas and have nothing against the Windies, I just don't think a series between one of the best sides in the world and possibly THE worst side in the world has any merit.

  • SOLUTE on June 29, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    what a meaningless test series?yes,sa won ,but this doesn't mean that they are not chokers.why to have such incompetent test matches.it's an insult those west indian fans who buy tickets to see their team loose on consistent basis. is this the level of test cricket.outcome of the series was already known,then why to play.such a series is just wastage of time,money ,effort.even the retired west indian greats (you know whom i am talking about) will play far more better cricket this pathetic side.

  • jamol on June 29, 2010, 18:29 GMT

    this is exactly wat i expected from the windies......the only test batsman we have in the side rite now is chanders......and chris gayle keeps calling for the batsmen to perform but he himself hasnt stood up and done so!!!Maybe lara should come back after all!! well done benn and roach

  • on June 29, 2010, 18:18 GMT

    Is it not time for a new leader for WI? Somebody with more passion for the game...why not try a Ganga he cannot be worse than richard and all the rest windies have been parading in recent past

  • on June 29, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    marlon samuels has to come into this team and ramdin has to be dropped

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  • on June 29, 2010, 18:15 GMT

    marlon samuels has to come into this team and ramdin has to be dropped

  • on June 29, 2010, 18:18 GMT

    Is it not time for a new leader for WI? Somebody with more passion for the game...why not try a Ganga he cannot be worse than richard and all the rest windies have been parading in recent past

  • jamol on June 29, 2010, 18:29 GMT

    this is exactly wat i expected from the windies......the only test batsman we have in the side rite now is chanders......and chris gayle keeps calling for the batsmen to perform but he himself hasnt stood up and done so!!!Maybe lara should come back after all!! well done benn and roach

  • SOLUTE on June 29, 2010, 18:30 GMT

    what a meaningless test series?yes,sa won ,but this doesn't mean that they are not chokers.why to have such incompetent test matches.it's an insult those west indian fans who buy tickets to see their team loose on consistent basis. is this the level of test cricket.outcome of the series was already known,then why to play.such a series is just wastage of time,money ,effort.even the retired west indian greats (you know whom i am talking about) will play far more better cricket this pathetic side.

  • Something_Witty on June 29, 2010, 18:40 GMT

    Well what do you know? Some life in the pitch and it's another thrashing. Might I ask what the purpose of this series (and indeed, the ODI and T20 series) was? It served as little purpose as WI playing Australia last summer, less perhaps, given their current injured players. Shouldn't they be playing someone closer to their level? Bangladesh or New Zealand? There is no excitement in a series consisting of two absolute thrashings and one coma-inducing draw. This series served only to deflate South African bowling averages and inflate South African batting averages. I'm not saying it's either team's fault, I like the Saffas and have nothing against the Windies, I just don't think a series between one of the best sides in the world and possibly THE worst side in the world has any merit.

  • harikeshan on June 29, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    Its time the WICB bring back players like Samuels and Probably even a change of Captain may just about take the burden off Gayle. Ganga displayed a lot of character during the Champions T20 here in India. Above all WICB may wanna invest in someone who can instill discipline and work on the mental aspect of most players.

  • Butee on June 29, 2010, 21:10 GMT

    The WIBC keeps insulting the West Indian fans by feilding a team of players with no purpose, drive, and the passion to represent. It all starts from the top and i will again ask for Gayle to be removed as captain. In all fairness to Gayle he is unable to perform when is has a bunch of players who are not sure how a bat should be held. As for Ramdin....he would never make those silly errors under Ganga, Rampaul on the other hand has gotten comfortable as a regular on the team and looks like he eats from everyone's plate for lunch.....I don't want to sound like the captain but i have seen some positives comming out of this series....Benn and Shillingford were EXCELLENT,Bess looks like a good find and these guys i will now pin my hopes upon to bring W.I to the top.

  • on June 29, 2010, 21:11 GMT

    GANGA FOR WEST INDIES CAPTAIN! Its as simple as that! Chris Gayle lacks the leadership qualities required to build a winning unit! Some players must go now. Ramdin must be shown the door! He was given loads of opportunities and failed miserably! TIME FOR SERIOUS CHANGE!!! I AM DISGUSTED AT THE WAY THE WI SELECTORS CHOOSE A WEST INDIES SIDE! It is utterly pathetic! There is so much talent out there! We need things in place to hone this talent, not just give them a try and then throw them away , for eg, Dwayne Smith, Andre Fletcher!! GANGA FOR CAPTAIN!!

  • on June 29, 2010, 21:57 GMT

    Ganga can't bat.. He has gotten a million test matches and has proven nothing. It doesn't matter who is captain the team sucks ass. These injuries are a huge problem with the current crop of west indian players... Sarwan, Taylor, Edwards Barath... all injured.Marlon Samuels is just returning from a suspension. I think he should have been included. His lack of match practice wouldn't make him as ineffective as some of these guys.. West Indies cricket is a joke at this point. I think they should take a couple of years off, get their cat together and maybe return in 2013

  • AyrtonS on June 29, 2010, 23:47 GMT

    maybe they should bring back the old dinosaurs like LLoyd and Richards. We might then be able to see their REAL colours.