West Indies news October 21, 2010

Dropping Sarwan was tough decision - Gibson

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West Indies coach Ottis Gibson has said that leaving Ramnaresh Sarwan out of the Test team was a tough decision but one that needed to be made in the interests of the touring squad in Sri Lanka. Fitness issues and indifferent form have kept Sarwan out of the side in 2010, but Gibson said he still has a lot to offer the team.

"It came down to whether we can continue to take Sarwan on tour and then have one of our best players not available to us for selection all the time," Gibson said. "The decision was taken to give him more time to get fit. I still think he's got a lot more contributions to make to West Indies cricket and that gives him the opportunity to do the things he knows he needs to do to not just get fit, but stay fit to make those contributions."

Gibson backed the "strong decisions" made by the selectors in picking a new-look squad, with Chris Gayle and Dwayne Bravo stripped of their leadership roles following their refusal to sign WICB's central contracts. Darren Sammy took over as captain from Gayle, while Brendan Nash was named vice-captain.

"The selectors have picked a team in trying to chart the way forward for the West Indies in the coming years," Gibson said. "We are in the decision-making business and West Indies cricket, from where it sits currently, needs strong decisions and those are the decisions the selectors have taken. It's an exciting time for Darren and Brendan but also for some of the young guys who have been picked."

The squad includes the uncapped pair of fast bowler Andre Russell and wicketkeeper Devon Thomas, who was picked in place of Denesh Ramdin. Gibson was confident that both the team and the new players stood to benefit from their presence on a potentially tough tour of Sri Lanka.

"Thomas' selection comes at the back of a very good stint at the Sagicor High Performance Center in Barbados," Gibson said. "He has had rave reviews when they went on tour in Canada. The thinking of the selectors is that the subcontinent is a tough place to tour, and if you're going on a tour like that you need to have cover in specialist positions so therefore the view of taking two keepers [Carlton Baugh is also in the side] is exactly that.

"When I see Andre Russell, he excites me. He is a big, tall fellow and he has got some pace. We took the decision to take him along and it will give me an opportunity to work with him and introduce him into the international arena that way."

Gibson also reposed faith in the inexperienced leadership pair that will take charge of the side. Sammy has played only eight Tests since his debut in 2007, while the Australia-born batsman, Nash, has featured in 15.

"Darren Sammy as a cricketer and as a leader always plays with passion. Hopefully when he leads, he continues to lead in that way. What we don't want is for him to get the job and change the way he is. I said to him already that he must be his own man and make sure that we, as management, will take as much stress off him so he can do his job.

"Brendan Nash, since he's been here, has been very professional," Gibson said. "Growing up in Australia, he's got a steely Australia attitude, meticulous with his preparation. That's what I see of Nash and that's what I hope he brings to his role as the vice-captain of the team - to lead in that regard, continue to show the younger players in the team in that way."

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  • on October 23, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    OUR SELECTOR ARE VERY HAPPY FOR THIS SERIES AGAINST AUSTRAILLA BUT MY POINT IS HERE THAT BCCI SHOULD GIVE TO PLAYER PERFORMENCE BONUS FOR MAKING 100,50, AND FOR TAKING 5 AND MORE WICKETS AND FOR TAKING 2 AND MORE CATCHES AND SAVING RUNS WHILE FIELDING ON THE OTHER HAND BCCI SHOULD PUNISH FOR THEM FOR NOT PERFORMING IN THE MATCH FOR EXAMPLE DROPING CATCH,MISFIELDING, OUT FOR DUCK AND SPEND MORE TIME AT CREASE PLAYED MORE BALLS BUT SCORED LESS (THIS IS ACCORDING MATCH SITUATION) AND DISMISSED RUNOUT HIS PARTNER AND RUNOUT HIMSELF ETC

  • on October 23, 2010, 17:17 GMT

    I AM VERY MUCH HAPPY THAT WINDIES SELECTOR TOOK HARD STEP TO NEW CAPTION BECAUSE I OBSERVE CRISE GAYLE ALWAYS PLAY FAST AND DISMISSED EARLIAR ON MANY OCCASION ,HE SHOULD UNDERSTOOD HIS POSTION AND ALSO SELECTOR SIDELINE SARWAN IT IS ALSO A ALARMING SIGNAL FOR OTHER SENIOR PLAYERS LIKE CHANDERPAL,GAYLE AND JUNIOR PLAYERS SO IF YOU WILL NOT PERFOME THEN THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU IN TEAM

  • on October 23, 2010, 16:29 GMT

    all of west indies best performance has been with sarwan included. when they won champions trophy in 2004 he got player of the tournament. when they chased that record 418 aganst aus, he got a century. he captained them to the final of 2006 champions trophy and lara was captain in the final and they lost. he is a match winner. and anyway dnt they realize most world class batsmen peak when they get to about age 30 or 31? check ponting dravid, sangakkara kallis, laxman and many others. they were always good but when they got to their early 30s they became amazing. even tendulkar and lara improved when they were in their 30s.

  • Metman on October 23, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    @kricketluva! well said !Sarwan needs to grow up.He, however,should never play for Guyana and by extension the WI again!Remember how he sulked when Chanders was made capt.of Guyana.He sulked until he got back the captaincy!Sarwan was WI skipper until he was" overthrown",by Chris Gayle and the Board.He was again offered the job when things were not going well with Gayle and the Board,and he refused,and I totally agree with him,however,since then,he has just been going through the motions,doing that much and no more,simply to maintain his place on the team.I cannot understand how some people can still be calling for Ganga and Ramdin ,both well known and established failures,and rejoicing that Gayle has been relieved of the captaincy,because he has been a failure at that.If the WI were looking and thinking ahead,then Simmons should have included in place of Baugh.Selectors,you watch the match btwn Jca and Bdos yesterday,were you impressed or embarrassed by Baugh's performance?

  • abner564 on October 23, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    Mr. Gibson know's all but too well on why Sarwan is not on this touring squad....it's because Sarwan does't have work as hard as he did to make West Indies Squad...why? Because Sarwan is one of most gifted West Indian Batsmen today....he's second best batsman in the west indies and Mr. Gibson is worried about quote on quote his fitness and a big chupz to that....Mr. Gibson just does not like Sarwan....then he bring up Sarwan fielding ability is it any worse in the field as Gayle who you never run faster than a turtle....Mr. Gibson do the west indies a favor and resign and tell us why you dislike Sarwan so much we are all waiting to hear...

  • on October 22, 2010, 21:07 GMT

    I am a true WI fan and so when it comes to player selection issues I try not to be partial. If any fair minded WI fan is serious, R.Sarwnan in test cricket has not been as consistent as everyone in the caribbean expected him to be, especially in the last couple of years. Ok, he is not in the squad, the only thing I can say is come back better. Force the selectors to pick you not by the non selection of other but by your outstandng performances. I am not going to condem the whole squad, something had to be done about Ramdin. I am a fan of the guy. Keeping is head and shoulders above anyone in the region but he has been given an extended run and his battng in test cricket just seemed to go nowhere. D.Smith I think is being unfairly targeted. He toured wih the A team and did well. That's what the A team is for. Some of us might remember Damian Martyn.(Aus) Avg. cricketer who later on blossomed. Give the guy a chance. And so caller fearsome SL spinners are again a delusion.

  • on October 22, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    i believe discarding a player like ramdin is a mistake, he has been underperforming yes, but why not get a specialist to work with him. this is why our cricket is backward. the domestic tournament is a joke. why do u think our players prefer to go play elsewhere, come WIBC get serious. and get your strongest team forward. get specialist batting coaches and bowling coaches. the high performance centre is a joke to, because it has d same standard as d domestic competiiton. our selecting committee need to comeint the future and get out of the yester year mentality. Gayle should be dropped if they talking about underperforming aswell 91 good innings in every 20 is not good enough)

  • robinmaha on October 22, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    We shall wait to see what kind of coach Gibson is. If he is as good a coach as he was a WI player, then heaven help this mediocre team. Even if he is hired as bowling coach only that would signal the state of WI cricket, much less head coach. Is he going to do the coaching for batting also, coaching Gayle, Shiv, Bravo, Nash, Barath, and others? Good gracious! No wonder he has to tow the Board's line the way he does. That's the way for players to keep their places and staff to get and hold on to positions. Independent minded guys like Sarwan do not have a place in this scheme especially if they recognize WIPA. How could a region allow the head of the Board, the Chief Executive, and the captain to be of the same nationality? Conflict of interest? Nepotism? Caribbean integration? No! probably more of national integration this time!

  • rumcork69 on October 22, 2010, 9:15 GMT

    I support the decsion taken by the West Indies Cricket board and this has not happen since the late 90's. The captiancy should go to someone you is committed and has a winning attitude. Sammy does have not the averages but inthe West Indies cricket who does? (except chanders). Sarwan needed to be dropped about a two years ago. WI can't keep picking the same team and hoping to turn things around when their attitudes don't change. Chris Gayle thank you for efforts as WI captain and hope the few senior players back Sammy. T&T cricket showed the passion players in WI have for the game and what passion can achieve. So ii we lose the series, just bear in mind it is a step in the right direction, by rewarding commitment and giving other people a chance. SO SAMMY YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT!! GOOD LUCK can't wait for the series to start.

  • on October 22, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    It was a tough decision to drop Sarwan,but an easy one to include Devon Smith!! Gibson.....how much test you played in? You couldn't make the West Indian team regularly! Who are your batsmen?Who will bat # 3?After 2 overs,usually the West Indies # 3 batsman is at the crease!Samuels would have been a better choice! No Sarwan,Deonarine or Morton,is this a team? A test team! Way to go WICB, This will get more fans in the stands and generate more interest in West Indies cricket......Who are these Comics on the Board anyways!!

  • on October 23, 2010, 17:28 GMT

    OUR SELECTOR ARE VERY HAPPY FOR THIS SERIES AGAINST AUSTRAILLA BUT MY POINT IS HERE THAT BCCI SHOULD GIVE TO PLAYER PERFORMENCE BONUS FOR MAKING 100,50, AND FOR TAKING 5 AND MORE WICKETS AND FOR TAKING 2 AND MORE CATCHES AND SAVING RUNS WHILE FIELDING ON THE OTHER HAND BCCI SHOULD PUNISH FOR THEM FOR NOT PERFORMING IN THE MATCH FOR EXAMPLE DROPING CATCH,MISFIELDING, OUT FOR DUCK AND SPEND MORE TIME AT CREASE PLAYED MORE BALLS BUT SCORED LESS (THIS IS ACCORDING MATCH SITUATION) AND DISMISSED RUNOUT HIS PARTNER AND RUNOUT HIMSELF ETC

  • on October 23, 2010, 17:17 GMT

    I AM VERY MUCH HAPPY THAT WINDIES SELECTOR TOOK HARD STEP TO NEW CAPTION BECAUSE I OBSERVE CRISE GAYLE ALWAYS PLAY FAST AND DISMISSED EARLIAR ON MANY OCCASION ,HE SHOULD UNDERSTOOD HIS POSTION AND ALSO SELECTOR SIDELINE SARWAN IT IS ALSO A ALARMING SIGNAL FOR OTHER SENIOR PLAYERS LIKE CHANDERPAL,GAYLE AND JUNIOR PLAYERS SO IF YOU WILL NOT PERFOME THEN THERE IS NO PLACE FOR YOU IN TEAM

  • on October 23, 2010, 16:29 GMT

    all of west indies best performance has been with sarwan included. when they won champions trophy in 2004 he got player of the tournament. when they chased that record 418 aganst aus, he got a century. he captained them to the final of 2006 champions trophy and lara was captain in the final and they lost. he is a match winner. and anyway dnt they realize most world class batsmen peak when they get to about age 30 or 31? check ponting dravid, sangakkara kallis, laxman and many others. they were always good but when they got to their early 30s they became amazing. even tendulkar and lara improved when they were in their 30s.

  • Metman on October 23, 2010, 11:50 GMT

    @kricketluva! well said !Sarwan needs to grow up.He, however,should never play for Guyana and by extension the WI again!Remember how he sulked when Chanders was made capt.of Guyana.He sulked until he got back the captaincy!Sarwan was WI skipper until he was" overthrown",by Chris Gayle and the Board.He was again offered the job when things were not going well with Gayle and the Board,and he refused,and I totally agree with him,however,since then,he has just been going through the motions,doing that much and no more,simply to maintain his place on the team.I cannot understand how some people can still be calling for Ganga and Ramdin ,both well known and established failures,and rejoicing that Gayle has been relieved of the captaincy,because he has been a failure at that.If the WI were looking and thinking ahead,then Simmons should have included in place of Baugh.Selectors,you watch the match btwn Jca and Bdos yesterday,were you impressed or embarrassed by Baugh's performance?

  • abner564 on October 23, 2010, 2:08 GMT

    Mr. Gibson know's all but too well on why Sarwan is not on this touring squad....it's because Sarwan does't have work as hard as he did to make West Indies Squad...why? Because Sarwan is one of most gifted West Indian Batsmen today....he's second best batsman in the west indies and Mr. Gibson is worried about quote on quote his fitness and a big chupz to that....Mr. Gibson just does not like Sarwan....then he bring up Sarwan fielding ability is it any worse in the field as Gayle who you never run faster than a turtle....Mr. Gibson do the west indies a favor and resign and tell us why you dislike Sarwan so much we are all waiting to hear...

  • on October 22, 2010, 21:07 GMT

    I am a true WI fan and so when it comes to player selection issues I try not to be partial. If any fair minded WI fan is serious, R.Sarwnan in test cricket has not been as consistent as everyone in the caribbean expected him to be, especially in the last couple of years. Ok, he is not in the squad, the only thing I can say is come back better. Force the selectors to pick you not by the non selection of other but by your outstandng performances. I am not going to condem the whole squad, something had to be done about Ramdin. I am a fan of the guy. Keeping is head and shoulders above anyone in the region but he has been given an extended run and his battng in test cricket just seemed to go nowhere. D.Smith I think is being unfairly targeted. He toured wih the A team and did well. That's what the A team is for. Some of us might remember Damian Martyn.(Aus) Avg. cricketer who later on blossomed. Give the guy a chance. And so caller fearsome SL spinners are again a delusion.

  • on October 22, 2010, 16:49 GMT

    i believe discarding a player like ramdin is a mistake, he has been underperforming yes, but why not get a specialist to work with him. this is why our cricket is backward. the domestic tournament is a joke. why do u think our players prefer to go play elsewhere, come WIBC get serious. and get your strongest team forward. get specialist batting coaches and bowling coaches. the high performance centre is a joke to, because it has d same standard as d domestic competiiton. our selecting committee need to comeint the future and get out of the yester year mentality. Gayle should be dropped if they talking about underperforming aswell 91 good innings in every 20 is not good enough)

  • robinmaha on October 22, 2010, 13:34 GMT

    We shall wait to see what kind of coach Gibson is. If he is as good a coach as he was a WI player, then heaven help this mediocre team. Even if he is hired as bowling coach only that would signal the state of WI cricket, much less head coach. Is he going to do the coaching for batting also, coaching Gayle, Shiv, Bravo, Nash, Barath, and others? Good gracious! No wonder he has to tow the Board's line the way he does. That's the way for players to keep their places and staff to get and hold on to positions. Independent minded guys like Sarwan do not have a place in this scheme especially if they recognize WIPA. How could a region allow the head of the Board, the Chief Executive, and the captain to be of the same nationality? Conflict of interest? Nepotism? Caribbean integration? No! probably more of national integration this time!

  • rumcork69 on October 22, 2010, 9:15 GMT

    I support the decsion taken by the West Indies Cricket board and this has not happen since the late 90's. The captiancy should go to someone you is committed and has a winning attitude. Sammy does have not the averages but inthe West Indies cricket who does? (except chanders). Sarwan needed to be dropped about a two years ago. WI can't keep picking the same team and hoping to turn things around when their attitudes don't change. Chris Gayle thank you for efforts as WI captain and hope the few senior players back Sammy. T&T cricket showed the passion players in WI have for the game and what passion can achieve. So ii we lose the series, just bear in mind it is a step in the right direction, by rewarding commitment and giving other people a chance. SO SAMMY YOU HAVE MY SUPPORT!! GOOD LUCK can't wait for the series to start.

  • on October 22, 2010, 3:36 GMT

    It was a tough decision to drop Sarwan,but an easy one to include Devon Smith!! Gibson.....how much test you played in? You couldn't make the West Indian team regularly! Who are your batsmen?Who will bat # 3?After 2 overs,usually the West Indies # 3 batsman is at the crease!Samuels would have been a better choice! No Sarwan,Deonarine or Morton,is this a team? A test team! Way to go WICB, This will get more fans in the stands and generate more interest in West Indies cricket......Who are these Comics on the Board anyways!!

  • Meety on October 22, 2010, 2:25 GMT

    @ravroyal - re Nash, I know I might be considered bias being an Aussie, but Nash has been one of the best performers for WI in all forms of the game, all the players you have mentioned (except Ramdin), have issues, whether it be consistancy or attitude. I have a high opinion of Ramdin & I don't know who he has annoyed to be dropped from the squad. I thought he is one of the best w/k going around in World Cricket & he makes sides fight for his wicket. Is J Taylor injured? A pace attack of Taylor, Roach & Edwards would be formidable, with Bravo as back up. The WI have the talent to be very competitive - they just appear to lack the commitment. I think that Sarwan probably should of been selected as he is a good player of spin, however a full strength WI IMHO would be 1. Gayle, 2. Barath, 3. Nash, 4. Chanderpaul, 5. Sarwan, 6. Bravo, 7. Ramdin, 8. Taylor, 9. Benn, 10. Roach, 11. Edwards - this side would give the top sides a fight most of the time.

  • kunta1st on October 22, 2010, 1:58 GMT

    Don't worry about Gayle and Bravo, they are just digging a hole for themselves, now hopefully they can perform as they should and if not well the selectors know what to do. Where the selectors are concern, well in the Caribbean gambling is of high quality, so it's not strange to see that, I am not too sure about the Devon Smith call up, however if they say they want to move on with a new squad well let's see. All the best for the new team and we look forward to see how they perform, don't criticize tell the tour is over.

  • kunta1st on October 22, 2010, 1:56 GMT

    It's only a pity we don't have very competitive thirsty cricketers around in the Caribbean to choose from like in Aus-Ind-S. Africa and England, that almost everyone have to fight for a place on the team, and likewise when there is an injured player there is someone there ready and waiting to take his place not any and any player but a substitute that will produce, forcing the injured player to player for his position and not walk back into the team. One the matter of Sammy as captain, well give the young man a chance, if he wants it give it to him if he perform as the selectors expect felizidades, if not move on to the next guy. A team needs a captain so if they believe he can lead let him.

  • kunta1st on October 22, 2010, 1:54 GMT

    Well everyone making their comments and I agree with them all, but one have to remember that Sawan not making any great contribution runs wise and further more prone to injury. If a man not making run as a bats man him fi get drop to sort out his batting, that's how I see it. He could be in the test team for me but he is not producing as should be, so let him sort out his thing and come again. Gayle strip of his captaincy maybe a good thing, hope he can concentrate on batting now to keep his place. One must understand that it's not because of name one should play in a team, the selectors should not only look on name and potential, however the ones who are hungry to get runs and wickets should be the ones that are given the job to do.

  • Radesh74 on October 22, 2010, 1:13 GMT

    Only one word killed this team will have nightmares for the rest of their lives when SL finish with them. You thing Bravo and gayle will be themselves if a guy play for a year without breaking down need no say more good luck guys

  • loocd on October 22, 2010, 0:43 GMT

    Fitness is an everyday thing and until Sarwan,Taylor& most of the team realise this our cricket will remain a joke.They get injured trying to get fit too fast or doing too much with an unfit body.Sarwan has a lot to offer but his unprepared body is failing the team.Drop him and the other lazy ones.We need players who will prepare with great enthusiasm. Until then our cricket is doomed.

  • on October 22, 2010, 0:10 GMT

    It won't be long before Sarwan is back in the middle order. Test matches are just that... at test of your best players against theirs. When the batting order collapses, the selection mistakes will speak for themselves. Sarwan has great hands at silly point as well.

  • kriketluva on October 21, 2010, 23:39 GMT

    Sarwan is rightfully dropped. I am hopeful he will at long last fulfull his enormous potential. He takes his selection for granted and does not make the least effort. It would be great if he took the opportunity to grow up and stop being the school boy he has always been. It's not enough to be talented and well paid. You have to perform and earn your money. I think Gayle and others should be dropped so they will begin to take their jobs seriously. The WI team is comprised for the most part by the most mediocre and lazy of players. They have no shame at languising at the bottom of the heap. I know they are ahead of Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. But come on, lets face it these losers should all be fired. Even if we lose under Sammy it will not be any worse than what we have had to endure for fifteen interminable years. Goodbye Sarwan until you become an adult.

  • robinmaha on October 21, 2010, 23:30 GMT

    Leaving Sarwan out of the team is not good for West Indian cricket, for West Indian cricket fans and for Sarwan himself. Perhaps Sarwan should take the time he now has out of WI cricket to develop an alternative career path and skills. Unless sportsmen and women today have a good foundation to fall back on after a relatively short sports career they can rest assured that they will struggle for a decent living afterwards especially if the current remuneration they get from the Board is not great. No wonder some cricketers market themselves to where they can make enough for the future and do not rely on patriotic passion to sustain them and their families later.

  • on October 21, 2010, 22:56 GMT

    Sarwan might be playing but the truth is, he is NOT fit for international cricket. If he gets any slower we could as well put an anchor out in the field. We continue to let these well payed players play on the virtue of patches of form ages ago. Sarwan has not contributed significantly to a WI scoreboard, since Bush was still president. He had to go. Let him rethink what he wants for his cricket career and come again.

    Baugh i think is a bit of a step backward. I would have given perhaps Omar Phillips a try. Sammy is questionable as well to me. But the pickings are slim, and very sad. But i don't believe in playing guys cause they average 40 but don't act like they give a damn about their sport, their team or their fan base.

  • guyanamike on October 21, 2010, 21:01 GMT

    It's all hogwash, Sarwan has always been the scapegoat since The last of the LARA days. Remember he was also dropped from a match (the 2nd test) the last time he went to Sri lLanka. Recently he was not aawarded a contract with the board citing dubious lack of fitness claims. This was just setting the groundwork for for his non-selection now. So Gibson is just echoing the same nonsense sentiments. Fitness tests are done immediately preceding tours/matches as applicable. So if not the contract, then at least Sarwan could have been given the chance to prove his fitness for tour selection.Sarwan should quit WI cricket

  • ferioze on October 21, 2010, 21:00 GMT

    Stop the nonsence. you must pick the best team available.sarwan had been playing all year(20/20) how on earth he's not fit. besides chanderpaul and gayle which member on your team is a better batman than sarwan? don't make excuses, man-up and say it as it is. he's not on tour because he is a no nonsence guy. W.I. should hire a councilor for gibson and the board. they must start treating the players like adults and not boys.

  • on October 21, 2010, 19:56 GMT

    Otis Gibson is a Joke!!! What he said doesn't make sense. Sarwan is one of your best player at the moment and if he takes a fitness test and fails then those statement can be made besides it's sport athletes do get injured from time to time...can he guarantee none of the players will get injured on the tour of Sri Lanka; no he can't. Otis also said Sarwan's indifferent form is also to be blamed...HUH? Sarwan is a world class batsman with an average above 40 in ODI and Test cricket and he has done well in this years regional tournament. What other evidence Sarwan needs to show that he is currently fit? It is my opinion that Otis has some personal against Sarwan.

  • on October 21, 2010, 19:32 GMT

    Simply embarassing. Are they still telling me that people like Daren Ganga don't deserve test spots ? and What performances justify the inclusion of people like Nelon Pascal and Andre Russel ? What rubbish. Also, we are carrying a severely depleted squad, to the subcontinent no less, where experience is worth more than gold. So....we drop Sarwan ? Who, in addition to being one of our best players, is a reputedly good player of spin?? (seemed important to mention, seeing as the opposing team is SRI LANKA).... on what planet does that even begin to make sense ?? sighh

  • sajjodaalman on October 21, 2010, 18:42 GMT

    there is some racism here that sarwan ramdin and deonarine were all dropped,. bravo and gayle refused contracts, and they still are picked. nash and deonarine have been improving, nash got picked, deo did not. also theres some fresh faces, so why not pick imran khan and devendra bishoo? im happy for sammy and russell though. santokie should also be invested in

  • _NEUTRAL_Fan_ on October 21, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    Good to see some sort of explanation for Sarwan's exclusion. The selection makes a bit more sense now.

  • Steven500 on October 21, 2010, 17:02 GMT

    Selectors and Gibson,

    Get real, when you wanyt to drop someone its batting average. When you cannot use it as Sarwan is the second best batsman in the side after Chanders, you using fitness as an excuse. This in order to make place for some other mediocre player. When West Indies drew the Test Series in the Caribbean against the Sri Lankans, who do you think made all the runs...Sarwan. So Get Real.

    Steven 500

  • nafzak on October 21, 2010, 15:47 GMT

    Sars is paying for his association w/the WIPA. The WICB keeps talking about fitness, but the truth is they have not put any player thru any fitness test. It's not like they had a camp with 25 players and then picked the best and most fit. They did not even tell Sars & Deonarine how they came to that conclusion. Sars led Guy in the C T/20 and then to SA... where he played well despite Guyanas' losses. He went thru rigorous training before goint to SA and looked pretty fit in the field. WIPA has long complained of the lack of 4 day 1st class matches in the WI. The last 4 day competition was in Jan-March 2010 and in Sars last match he scored 116. For the record Sammy was not in the top 50 in batting avg and his bowling strike rate was 57.6. Only 17 of the top 50 had a worse strike rate. I. Khan had a srike rate of 32.5 with 41 wkts. kantasingh had 29 Wkts at a strike rate of 42.9. Drpooing Sars has payback written all over it. Sars will have the final laugh after WI is trashed in SL.

  • on October 21, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    Sarwan is a world class palyer and has a decent average in test cricket. Dropping such a class player is a big mistake and its a real loss to the team.

  • Asadpk on October 21, 2010, 14:52 GMT

    Where are the fast bowlers Taylor, Fidel Edwards?? having those two alongwith Kemar Roach and Benn would make the WI bowling attack very very good and almost on par with the top teams in the world. Unfortunately it never seem to happen due to injuries and selection issues. Dropping Sarwan will be a mistake as he's an excellent player of spin. Dropping Ramdin though was the right decision as he already had too many chances. and Chris Gayle got what he wanted eversince he rubbished Test cricket in England last year.

  • robinmaha on October 21, 2010, 14:44 GMT

    Is Sarwan still injured? I thought he led the Guyana side in the Caribbean T20, the Airtel competition and currently in the Caribbean onedayers. The reasoning of Gibson is both faulty, disingenuous and not surprising. Sarwan's exclusion from everything WICB is surely about something else. Sindy Love senses it. Gibson must be loyal to his bosses. To say that the selectors made those decisions aloof of the WICB sphere of influence and control seems irrational. All the building blocks were craftily put in place: write to Sarwan about his fitness, don't issue him a central contract, don't pick him in the WI squad, leave this opening to give Sammy the captaincy. Bingo! Good luck to Gibson and the WICB circus as they continue to make fun of cricket in the Caribbean. It would be good for the rest of players dropped to comprise an alternative team to prepare/test the WI team to SL. That would be fun, won't it?

  • crabman144 on October 21, 2010, 14:18 GMT

    I will always be a fan of West Indies cricket but sometimes the things that are said by the people in charge makes you think if they have a brain or not. Gibson said quote "It came down to whether we can continue to take Sarwan on tour and then have one of our best players not available to us for selection all the time,". My question is what guarantee you have that all of the players you are taking is going to be available. Injuries happen and not planned. It's not like Sarwan is a mediocre player you are taking, he is a top player on the team. Then there is Baugh, in my opinion, replace Baugh with Simmons, who is an opening bat and wk. Use Thomas and if he don't succeed then you have Simmons. Is Taylor injured or is Gibson worried about him breaking down too.

  • on October 21, 2010, 13:53 GMT

    It came down to whether we can continue to take Sarwan on tour and then have one of our best players not available to us for selection all the time," Gibson said.

    All what Gibson is doing is putting his foot in his mouth. You select your best players when they are available and your best players, as well as other players will not be available for selection all the time for different reasons. What foolishness is Gibson saying. He should stick to coaching.

    "The decision was taken to give him more time to get fit;" according to Gibson This is a red herring. As we are aware, Sarwan is presently fit and has been playing cricket. Has the WICB requested Sarwan to take a fitness test, to prove his fitness, and has the results deemed him unfit?? Gibson and the selectiors get real. Its vindictiveness and the Board is telling Sarwan that they are the Boss and in Control...The "C" is still very much in WICB ..WICBC

  • on October 21, 2010, 13:35 GMT

    It came down to whether we can continue to take Sarwan on tour and then have one of our best players not available to us for selection all the time," Gibson said.

    All what Gibson is doing is putting his foot in his mouth. You select your best players when they are available and your best players, as well as other players will not be available for selection all the time for different reasons. What foolishness is Gibson saying. He should stick to coaching.

    "The decision was taken to give him more time to get fit."

    This is a red herring. As we are aware, Sarwan is presently fit and has been playing cricket. Has the WICB requested Sarwan to take a fitness test..and the results deemed him unfit?? Gibson and the selectiors get rea!. Its vindictiveness and the Board is really telling Sarwan that they are the Boss and in Control...The "C" is still very much in WICB ..WICBC

  • on October 21, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    I respect the opinion of Otis Gibson, but the selection of Carlton Baugh makes absolutely no sense. Ramdin is not injured as Sarwan may be and the first job of the keeper is to keep wicket, and he is the best by far in the West Indies. So, why didn't he take Dinesh Ramdin and work with him on tour as he claims he will do with Andre Russell? The illogic of the decisions increases the more the explanations are given. I do think that Russell is a good pick and Devon Thomas is a good investment.

  • Silva-Surfa on October 21, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    Well i guess Gibson semi-cleared up the reason for not picking Sars. I still think it's a mistake simply because he's been one of the best players of spin in the Caribbean, but at the same time Gibson implied that the rate Sarwan was going, he would've broken down with injury, at some point in the series and as talented as he is, it's pointless carrying a passenger on tour. Also i see Nash getting alot of unfair criticism yet again. I think Gibson is spot-on about his opinions of him and in every series he has played so far, he's managed to score some runs, unlike alot of his more "talented" (Gayle/Sarwan/Chanderpaul aside) team-mates. Sammy seems to have a big heart and i wish him well for all the difficult challenges that lay ahead.

  • Rajeshj on October 21, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    I am a big fan of Windies cricket from my school days and in spite of time zone differences I cherished the brilliant Lara innings against the Aussies and the wonderful pace duo of Walsh and Ambrose. And it was indeed depressing to see its woeful performances over the last decade. But somehow this new decision interests me at least by the fact that the WICB is at last showing a good intent to nurture new talent. Darren Sammy may or may not be much successful. But I think he will at least encourage his team to be more disciplined and work hard, as he normally is. If the importance of these two factors are taught to the next generation of WI cricketers, than I think its not too long before we see them back in supreme form. I will be following the progress of Sammy and Gibson with keen interest

  • Mirjah on October 21, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    I don't see how electing Sammy as captain can be beneficial to the team. How can the commitee elect a captain that has not even anchored his spot on the test team??? This decision is only because of the contract dispute. I rather see Nash be elected as captain before Sammy. I hope I am wrong and Sammy makes a difference, but I'm a realist.....West Indies will NEVER go forward with the current board. WICB just seems to ALWAYS bring down the carribean community. Sad days.......

  • Fatman on October 21, 2010, 12:06 GMT

    Oh dear, how can a guy who isn't a regular member of the test squad get captaincy. He must have a relative on the cricket board. There are taking inexperience players to Sri Lanka, not surprised if they get a thumping by an innings each game they play. An out of form sarwan is still better than whoever they will have in the middle order. After Chanderpaul and gayle gets out, Mendis will run through the batting order.

  • blackie on October 21, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    Scully, how can you in one breath say the WI glory day will never come back and then ask for a competitive windies team. make up your mind and stop being negative. Ravroyal, what are you talking about. the only one of those batsmen who have a better record than Nash is Sarwan and he isnt fit. do you watch cricket or is this just your prejudice talking. WEST INDIES NEEDS PLAYERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO WEST INDIES CRICKET NOT GLAMOUR BOYS WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PLAYERS. Thank God for sammy, nash, chanderpaul, roach, benn(needs anger management classes tho), edwards, taylor and one or two others who play hard whenever they get the chance. Last point for the Ganga-as-captain crew. Nice guy, good leadership potential but has played 86 test innings with 6 50's and 3 centuries with an average of 25. he cant command a batting spot and he cant lead the team from the pavilion, can he?

  • on October 21, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    Oh dear dear, i cnnot understand the logic behind dropping a world class player like Sarwan. Any side would have had him in the side. especially in Sri Lanka when the batsmen are surrounded by fielders. an attacking folk like Ronnie would have done the trick by smashing da spinner over da park. Mih dunno da logic. what worries mih is da state of carribean cricket

  • on October 21, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    The Windies cricket is a joke!! Enough of the nonsense we had!

  • on October 21, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    I grew up with the west indians having 4 top quality fast bowlers pumbling the brave aussie batsmen, 6 bouncers an over, no helmets and raw passion on the field! A strong windies batting line up that could thump the ball around. These days will never come back but I would love to see a windies team come and give australia a real close hard fought home series. Please Sammy, bring some grit and some power back to the rightful gods of cricket

  • brsw on October 21, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    selectors making strong decisions..these are'nt necessarily wise decisions. sarwan should be on the tour,he's a better performer than devon smith atleast..n this will be shown in the test series.

  • ravroyal on October 21, 2010, 6:31 GMT

    First of all, the best thing to come out of this shake up is that Christy Gayle is no longer in charge. Secondly, as a life long West Indian, I think that our cricket has just taken a step back. While Darren Sammy attempt's to captain the revamped squad, I think that it is a really sorry excuse for WI even having a team at a competitive level. I read somewhere that some as* that doesn't know alot about cricket said that T&T and Guyana should not be on their on. Newsflash, the caribbean has not only 2 but about 5 islands that can be alot more competitive than this WI squad. It hurts me to see the guys like Sarwan, Ramdin, Taylor, Simmons, Mohammed, Ganga, ETC., to not be in the side but, I guess they have to find an excuse for Nash to play so, they make him vice captain. Gibson, Hilare, ETC., are only worried about thier paychecks. What really concerns me is that Gibson stated that the wicketskeepers they selected stood to benefit. From WHAT? Baugh already proved he is a failure.

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  • ravroyal on October 21, 2010, 6:31 GMT

    First of all, the best thing to come out of this shake up is that Christy Gayle is no longer in charge. Secondly, as a life long West Indian, I think that our cricket has just taken a step back. While Darren Sammy attempt's to captain the revamped squad, I think that it is a really sorry excuse for WI even having a team at a competitive level. I read somewhere that some as* that doesn't know alot about cricket said that T&T and Guyana should not be on their on. Newsflash, the caribbean has not only 2 but about 5 islands that can be alot more competitive than this WI squad. It hurts me to see the guys like Sarwan, Ramdin, Taylor, Simmons, Mohammed, Ganga, ETC., to not be in the side but, I guess they have to find an excuse for Nash to play so, they make him vice captain. Gibson, Hilare, ETC., are only worried about thier paychecks. What really concerns me is that Gibson stated that the wicketskeepers they selected stood to benefit. From WHAT? Baugh already proved he is a failure.

  • brsw on October 21, 2010, 6:39 GMT

    selectors making strong decisions..these are'nt necessarily wise decisions. sarwan should be on the tour,he's a better performer than devon smith atleast..n this will be shown in the test series.

  • on October 21, 2010, 8:17 GMT

    I grew up with the west indians having 4 top quality fast bowlers pumbling the brave aussie batsmen, 6 bouncers an over, no helmets and raw passion on the field! A strong windies batting line up that could thump the ball around. These days will never come back but I would love to see a windies team come and give australia a real close hard fought home series. Please Sammy, bring some grit and some power back to the rightful gods of cricket

  • on October 21, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    The Windies cricket is a joke!! Enough of the nonsense we had!

  • on October 21, 2010, 10:25 GMT

    Oh dear dear, i cnnot understand the logic behind dropping a world class player like Sarwan. Any side would have had him in the side. especially in Sri Lanka when the batsmen are surrounded by fielders. an attacking folk like Ronnie would have done the trick by smashing da spinner over da park. Mih dunno da logic. what worries mih is da state of carribean cricket

  • blackie on October 21, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    Scully, how can you in one breath say the WI glory day will never come back and then ask for a competitive windies team. make up your mind and stop being negative. Ravroyal, what are you talking about. the only one of those batsmen who have a better record than Nash is Sarwan and he isnt fit. do you watch cricket or is this just your prejudice talking. WEST INDIES NEEDS PLAYERS WHO ARE COMMITTED TO WEST INDIES CRICKET NOT GLAMOUR BOYS WHO JUST WANT TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THE MAJORITY OF OUR PLAYERS. Thank God for sammy, nash, chanderpaul, roach, benn(needs anger management classes tho), edwards, taylor and one or two others who play hard whenever they get the chance. Last point for the Ganga-as-captain crew. Nice guy, good leadership potential but has played 86 test innings with 6 50's and 3 centuries with an average of 25. he cant command a batting spot and he cant lead the team from the pavilion, can he?

  • Fatman on October 21, 2010, 12:06 GMT

    Oh dear, how can a guy who isn't a regular member of the test squad get captaincy. He must have a relative on the cricket board. There are taking inexperience players to Sri Lanka, not surprised if they get a thumping by an innings each game they play. An out of form sarwan is still better than whoever they will have in the middle order. After Chanderpaul and gayle gets out, Mendis will run through the batting order.

  • Mirjah on October 21, 2010, 12:19 GMT

    I don't see how electing Sammy as captain can be beneficial to the team. How can the commitee elect a captain that has not even anchored his spot on the test team??? This decision is only because of the contract dispute. I rather see Nash be elected as captain before Sammy. I hope I am wrong and Sammy makes a difference, but I'm a realist.....West Indies will NEVER go forward with the current board. WICB just seems to ALWAYS bring down the carribean community. Sad days.......

  • Rajeshj on October 21, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    I am a big fan of Windies cricket from my school days and in spite of time zone differences I cherished the brilliant Lara innings against the Aussies and the wonderful pace duo of Walsh and Ambrose. And it was indeed depressing to see its woeful performances over the last decade. But somehow this new decision interests me at least by the fact that the WICB is at last showing a good intent to nurture new talent. Darren Sammy may or may not be much successful. But I think he will at least encourage his team to be more disciplined and work hard, as he normally is. If the importance of these two factors are taught to the next generation of WI cricketers, than I think its not too long before we see them back in supreme form. I will be following the progress of Sammy and Gibson with keen interest

  • Silva-Surfa on October 21, 2010, 13:11 GMT

    Well i guess Gibson semi-cleared up the reason for not picking Sars. I still think it's a mistake simply because he's been one of the best players of spin in the Caribbean, but at the same time Gibson implied that the rate Sarwan was going, he would've broken down with injury, at some point in the series and as talented as he is, it's pointless carrying a passenger on tour. Also i see Nash getting alot of unfair criticism yet again. I think Gibson is spot-on about his opinions of him and in every series he has played so far, he's managed to score some runs, unlike alot of his more "talented" (Gayle/Sarwan/Chanderpaul aside) team-mates. Sammy seems to have a big heart and i wish him well for all the difficult challenges that lay ahead.